Yes, Batteries Are Our Future. Here’s Why.
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- In this video we'll take a look at the new emerging battery industry.
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Two key questions:
1. How long is the lifespan of said batteries?
2. How are they disposed of/recycled at the end of their lifecycle?
what reclamation?
Dagogo, imagine how far battery technology has come since you started your youtube channel. Comparing this video to the discoveries mentioned in your first battery videos is incredible.
If Tesla thought batteries were the solution... they NEVER would have built a giant battery production facility in Nevada, FAR from shipping. Unlike idiots who make these video's, at least TESLA can do basic math...
@@w8stral what?
@@w8stral i usually speak and thought gibberish, but i still dont understand what meaning your having?
I know most people who watch this are clueless, but this takes the cake. Shipping costs dominate your business when dealing with bulk products like batteries. Especially if you are going to be making Billions of them when the world needs many many many trillions of them if they actually WORKED as advertised in the PR campaign. This means waterfront property access or very closely linked to it.@@XX-ru4sm
@@w8stral you are replying to a comment about how far battery tech has come since this channel was created... In that context, what you said was absolute gibberish, since it has nothing to do with the conversation at hand.
Battery tech improves the capacity of batteries,
Phones manufacturers make batteries smaller and phones thinner so we still have half a day to one day of charge
Nice
Improving batteries won’t be enough, they have to be made out of common materials instead of rare earth element. Lithium batteries should really be called cobalt batteries or manganese batteries they don’t just contain lithium which is a fairly harmless element. Battery technology has to change fundamentally having high-performance is not enough materials have to change.
ng at the complete life c
It's funny how ppl act like this isn't capitalism. Pretending to be clueless (actually clueless?)
If phone companies make longer lasting batteries, the overall life of the phone will be longer and they can't sell you a new phone as quickly.
The phone market depends on batteries with too little capacity.
@@ingemarsmith4154 That appears to be changing. Many manufacturers, especially Chinese brands, are aggressively advertising their phone's battery capacity and day charging capability.
Some of that increase in capacity is hampered by bloated skins on top of Android, but you can always flash a custom ROM or even stick Android for better battery life.
Edit: Just realised your profile picture matches your comment perfectly.
@@deus_ex_machina_ have you seen the graphene batteries? Why is it moving so slowly? We know.
At the time of watching this video there were 967 "dislikes". Why in the hell would anybody be ignorant enough to dislike such great content? Maybe they are employees of the oil and coal industries?
Really enjoying the book, only 25% through it but love the recap of historic inventions.
Thanks mate, glad you're enjoying the book. Just wait until you get to the 1980s and beyond. Plenty of amazing tech stories!
Jeremy Pottberg 👍 would you be interested in
ColdFusion the jump from the 80s release to recent is wild
What's up with the audio? Quality keeps switching from low quality "phoned-in" to almost as rich tones as usual. But never quite as good as we're used to, from previous videos.
I also have been getting that problem lately but no on this video tho. Sometimes it's stereo somethings it's not and I have to disable stereo or watch the video vertically on my phone
@@HammerLeaf15 hours later, and it's still the same. It sounds he's using different microphones, bad compression, and an unsuitable recording environment. Think of it as the difference in sound as someone pinching their nose or not while speaking.
@@nrdesign1991- yeah, you can clearly hear it's recorded through multiple sessions, not just one long monoloque, and than put together in software.
wow egy mozgó profilkép
@@mprechl It hasn’t moved in years. How come you see it animated still?
Sincerely,
Daniel "3ICE" Berezvai
Can I ask something I've been wondering for years? Who'd you get to do the voice "you're watching cold fusion TV"?
Maybe it's his girlfriend
Don't get me wrong, I definitely think that batteries are the future of electricity and power. However, calling it "green" is pretty far-fetched when looking at the complete life cycle of everything we create and consume. I did my masters on environmental management and the ISO14000-family certifications, during that time I interviewed companies within the automotive industry-, computer industry, a pharmaceutical industry, as well as professors at Lund University. One thing became abundantly clear. The worst environmental impact by western societies is consumption, no competition. Even if we replace fossil fuels with batteries the environmental impact won't become as green as we want- or are made to believe. In the end we mine for minerals, we transport, we process, we salvage and we industrialize in order to create products to sell, to make our economy go around. Companies want us to buy more all the time to turn in profit (there's no wonder phones are built to last only 2 years, about the same amount of time as phone plans usually hold up). The only thing people can do to be "green" is to consume responsibly.
All countries are different, but looking at Sweden only 20% of CO2 emissions is caused by transports (public and private), 40% is caused by private consumption while 30% is caused by infrastructure, society and industry. (Sweden don't have a lot of industry, but we consume a lot, that environmental impact is instead brought on China and other export countries)
I don't want to be a party pooper, but there is no interest for product companies to hand out statistics on the "life cycle environmental impact" of their products. There's no wonder we hear about "green cars" instead of the negative impact they have on the environment. Sure we can't see the pollution from the exhaust anymore, but that doesn't make the car "green". The only thing we have done is to export the environment problem to china. It's kind of ironic, we buy tons of "green cars", feel good about ourselves, and then politically complain on china for not being "green" enough, although, in fact they just produce batteries, electronics, general products etc. to meet our consumption needs as well as strengthen their own economy.
You're an idiot.
@@shortstacksport is that so? Please provide a counter argument and we can have a discussion about it. I'm not saying batteries are worse than fossil fuels (because they are not), rather that it is ironic and a bit opportunistic to call them 'green' without measuring the complete life cycle impact that the technology has.
You provide a solid argument. Makes sense too because we ultimately forget that making products end up creating some sort of waste and or byproduct.
Here's a green battery solution. Iron flow-batteries. This is a technology not suited for automotive applications, but for ground-based power storage, size is less a limiting factor. The battery uses very safe common chemicals to store electrical power, and it is easily recyclable at the end of its service life. This is just one example of batteries that fulfill its 'green' role.
Or maybe someone makes a graphene battery or supercapacitor ---- power storage made out of carbon. There are many emerging battery technologies that are far less damaging than the production of lithium-type batteries that it's not fair to say that batteries in itself are not green ---- only some of them aren't.
True, where will all that power come from when every car is a battery vehicle? It has to come from power stations. Power storage technologies will displace that pollution source to elsewhere, but think of it this way: it's easier to stick a pollution scrubber on the few stationary power plants than on every car. And if you have battery storage on the grid? Now you can make your system super efficient because you no longer need polluting peaker-plants to compensate for the fluctuating demand curve.
There is such a thing as too much pessimism. There is always a downside, but you are looking too short of a time-scale to not see the long term benefits. If we don't start because of the perceived short-term downsides, then we'll never progress to anything else and stagnate. The lightbulb was only invented after a thousand failures, and the same lesson there can still be applied today.
As I like to say, perfection is stagnation. If you think something can't be done better, then you've already deemed it perfect. If you think something is perfect, you shouldn't try to be solving problems...
In general I agree, but with one important distinction - if the pollution generated during production of goods falls below tge ability of the surrounding environment to transform that pollution, then I would call that green. We are obviously a long way from that, but perhaps some company out there will use first principles to design new systems that meet that objective.
i still remember your video about samsung's graphene technology. :) thanks dagogo, for keeping us updated about new technology
Hiii, you're the first TH-camr who's book I'm going to read😊.can't wait,please make it available in India.
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I'm sorry, I don't speak T-series
@@jelger6842 not everyone in India cares about t series so kindly stop commenting.
@@jelger6842 Surprised to see people like you on a channel like these.
I'm sorry, it was a typo. I meant T-Gay
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I hate Apple for that reason. All profit driven no vision
@@MrWackozacko They have a vision though...
To be a trillion dollar company outta fools
@@anonymoustroll1549 No, no, to be a trillion dollar company which sells paperweights because they stop working or work slower at whenever they desire
Apple is massively overrated.
then Elon Said no to Samsung and Toyota, after saying it to Apple. Because their all awful company's.
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Thank you for honouring my request. I have been looking for these discoveries for a long time. Be blessed.
I can feel type 1 civilization vibes
Air Crash Yes.... it’s getting closer and closer.
finally autonomous solar cars, no more noisy polluting vehicles
@@robertbidochon7949 well, yes - driving themselve, going for themselve... people on board are totally banned... only goods - mostly spare parts for electric cars maintenance.. Good Luck! Have a nice weekend, dude!
@@zdzichus.3264 what did you smoke? It's a strong strain! Xp
Please make videos on How Big is
Microsoft
Tencent
Alibaba
Oracle
Mitsubishi
tony michael you’d like a channel called company man
Pretty sure he did Alibaba
tony michael Mitsubishi is huuuuuuge
Mitsubishi is not really interesting.
Mitsubishi : Electric or Motors or Group.
Really amazing to be associated with your channel from last couple of years. Every time I learn something new, which is helpful for being in tuned with the vision. Thanks. Keep making more videos. Peace!
Every year we see "news" stories about the amazing battery technologies right around the corner. Nothing ever changes. I'm using the same batteries today that I was using 30 years ago. Same cost (relative), same capacity, reduced lifespan.
Try to tell to 80% of the people!
Batteries are bullshit.
Thank you so much for your passionate effort, 'ColdFusion'.
Do the batteries in my Wii Remote count?
No there batteries of the present
Nah Wii Wii U the switch are obsolete but a real console called PS4 or Xbox One
Wiimote batteries last forever already 😂
I remember when we would play Super Smash Bros on the Wii, and we were ecstatic when we found working batteries so we could play
Nuttybartony Yes, Absolutely sir
Thanks for the consistent, high quality content Dagogo. Your videos never cease to excite me for the future!
Your book arrives tomorrow and I couldn't be more excited! AHHH
Yo! Dagogo, are you going to have an audio version of your book?
Good Idea, read by mister ColdFusion himself.
Get that #audible sponsorship.
@@Renuclous lol I was thinking this
Pause the video at :05 it says E-BOOK + AUDIO BOOK..
I was thinking the exact same thing and of course read by Dagogo himself
This channel is extremely BIASed!
I press "like video" before starting to watch the video, and virtually NEVER change my mind at the end of the video :D
Agree 100%
Jonathan Ozik then that means that your mind is biased and not the channel
Jonathan Ozik w
So, What could be more nuanced in your opinion here? because, I would like to remind you that you, I and everyone are bias factories. What was not said that you would say?
I'm so glad to be working in this industry. It's so interesting, I learn a lot, it's good for society, and the best part, I enjoy every moment of it.
Hey cold fusion, another great video thank you.
I'd like to know more about battery recycling process, I thin that's one of the most important topics
In Elon we Musk
In Musk we trust.
Elon Musk is the Willie Wonka of Space tech and Battery powered vehicles and homes.
Hahaha
@@brokkoliomg6103 in trust we bust
Trust in the Musk
You've changed my mind. This channel is so well done. Thank you
Little bit of glitter all it takes for you, Huh?
@@scientistsbaffled5730 Of course. I'm not going to spend days of my life researching emerging battery technologies. When my knowledge of batteries ended at Lithium-Ion, why would I expect batteries to be working on the grid, or replacing gasoline in consumer vehicles? Lithium ion batteries can't compete with gasoline. These new batteries have the potential to do so. Sure it probably won't replace diesel, but the fact batteries are getting better at all is pretty astounding.
Thunderf00t even made a video on why lithium ion batteries are the best we'll ever get. There's reason to trust someone who deals with nuclear physics as their day job, but clearly he was wrong.
@@MisakaMikotoDesu so you gleen all your knowledge from TH-cam?
So the next person with a better video editor is going to convince you of something else.
@@scientistsbaffled5730 That's a very cute strawman you're trying to setup. Where exactly did you get the idea I get all my information from youtube? Perhaps you missed where I wrote "I'm not going to spend days of my life researching emerging battery technologies." The word "research" is a very specific term used for a very specific process.
I'm sorry you're so impressionable that you feel shame from gathering information regardless of media, but not everyone has those kinds of insecurities. If you stop caring about what anonymous trolls think about your knowledge base you'll be much better off. Good luck.
@@MisakaMikotoDesu you use this video to refute thunderfoot(ANOTHER TH-camR), and by your own admission you said you will not research... I like to present you your TH-cam Ph.D, congratulations!!!
I love you , man ! I just love your channel and your content. I ve been whatching you for a few years now and i love all the stuff that u present here .
Keep going ! ❤️
Thank u for sharing and updating everyone on the progress! I can't wait for what's in store!
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You do great reports man, keep up the good work!
You doing a great job for the society. Knowledge is wealth!
Keep up the good work, cheers :)
Hi Dagogo, Just want to say, thank you for your videos, interesting, well researched and engaging. Big thumbs up for your hard work.
I'm still waiting on the 'solid state air' batteries to come along and have the same energy density as gasoline and diesel fuel. Then we can fly around the earth in large battery power planes!
First of all, your comment doesn't make any sense.
Second, only use one space between each word. Don't type like this.
Such an important and interesting topic! Thanks for the video :) Change is coming, and it's gonna be great, I hope!
i drove a 31 deep cycle battery vehicle back when we had to strip a regular car and put in those batteries! it is very exciting to see all the new battery improvements. thank you for producing this video!
My favorite electric vehicle is the dump truck that uses less energy than it gains due to going down hill when full vs driving up when empty. It never needs recharging (on this specific mountainous route), and is fully electric. It's called 'eDumper' if you're curious about it!
Your voice makes me feel like I'm melting...
Time to stock up on triple AAA batteries then
So AAAAAAAAA batteries?
Time to stock up original comments
I have just accepted my fate
You only get more like than most of us because youre Famous dont think your comments are special or unique and i disliked your comment hope youtube would make that dislike bottom work
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Thanks Dagogo. Another fantastic video. Gives me a lot of optimism about this field. It’s been a long time since this much progress was made in this space.
The oldest battery is not Bagdadi, Its Indian. Agastya Rishi made it 4000+ years ago. Agastya Samhita is one of his book with the formula for many kinds of batteries. they were even tested some years ago.
lot of ways to store energy for grid, the cheapest way is gravity :)
Sky Alligator Intrigued, go on..
setup -> 350 (350 tons) concrete blocks ( totally a small bedroom size structure), 15 meters (lamp post height aporx), lift like structure holding blocks and connected to a generator. this will generate 15 units of energy from 15 meters to 0 meters according to E = m.g.h. if you are powering a small town with decent solar panels and gravity setup, you don't need even grid. its very much doable and you will save millions to billions of infrastructure cost like transmission lines, stepdown junctions etc.
you have to compromise the cost of infrastructure and a suitable place. not all places gifted with hills. how often do you think elevators maintained!
+Sky Alligator Yes, but energy storage capacity of that is though relatively low ( 14,3 kWh ) compared to its complexity. If you have 350 tons of mass, and you drop the whole mass 15 meters ( which means the tower height must be much more than 15 meters), you have released 51,5 MJ, by other words 14,3kWh, and in reality a lot less because you don't get 100% efficiency. For example electric stove may have 9kW max power. So, with that 350 tons of weight, you could use one electric stove with everything on for about 1 hour and 39 minutes. Well ok that is unrealistic, nobody keeps everything on max the same time. In normal use case, it would last for a few hours. To power whole house, you would need one 350 ton 15 meter drop pole, for every household? Or maybe a few houses per pole if the houses are very energy efficient. ;)
Gravitational storage makes a lot more sense with water tough. Doing it with water is technically very simple, as you only need a pump, and reservoir located high and another located low. It will of course need to be 3 times larger in physical size, as density of water is about 1/3 th of concrete, but if you have city located in so isolated place that there isn't even electric grid close by, there probably is space.
Water storage is much cheaper and simpler mechanically, that is the main gravity storage in large scale use today. When you have excess production, the water is pumped higher with a simple pumping station. And when there is more energy usage than production, the water flows down, and generates electricity. It tough still makes much more sense to build one big reservoir, than many small ones, because powerlines are cheap compared to the pumps, etc. and extremely cheap compared to 350 ton concrete blocks and all mechanics required to lift that up and down. ;)
Transmission lines and stepup/down junctions actually are one of the main reasons why electricity was so big success in the first place, because they made it cheaper than having small production stations everywhere, that was for example Edisons proposal originally with his direct current system. But AC won, because it can be so easily stepped up and down, that allows centralized production in big facility, which was a lot cheaper.
Gravity is a hoax.
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At this point, how is this even a joke?
This joke fucking sucks
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Yes, don't ever think that your videos aren't part of the revolution. I wouldn't know about these concepts otherwise, & I hope to take part in a bigger way soon.
If you construct a matrix with axes: material; energy; and data, against the axis of store; transport; and process, one will find that the weak cell (pun not intended) has for many decades been energy storage. This underpins the importance of battery technology, and makes us thankful that this is currently receiving so much attention.
Expect a big expansion of the application of batteries/ super caps.
Arc Reactor is what we need, especially the small version of it.
The 12v battery DOES NOT power the electronics in gasoline or diesel cars, apart from before the engine starts. At all times when the engine is running, the alternator is what powers the car’s electrical system and recharges the battery.
Still, alternator is charging the 12V battery. Then the electronics is power up from the battery. YOU REALY DON'T WANT YOUR ALTERNATOR TO POWER YOUR COMPUTER & ELECTRONICS. IT WILL DIE VERY FAST!!! GENIUS!!!!
@@AndreAndFriends The alternator is connected to the battery in parallel with the car electronics, and modern alternators typically have a voltage regulator. The alternator charges the 12V battery at about 14.1 volts, so the electronics are actually being driven by the alternator, not the battery. Any decent car electronics will be designed to handle the surge requirements of SAE J1113, including what is called "load dump."
The load dump surge can easily reach 100V and last 400ms. It takes TVS diodes and / or voltage limiting circuits to handle this, but they are quite common now.
It is also quite common for the folks replacing the battery in your car to leave the motor running while they do it. It saves you the hassles of re-entering the codes for the theft-deterrent circuits in the car radio.
In case you're wondering, yes, I have designed commercial electronics that is used in busses.
some vehicles run on both ac and dc . so he's still right about his statement
@@thunderrr0 Which vehicles exactly run on AC? I imagine there are RVs that have AC air conditioners or other accessories running on AC, but I'm not aware of any vehicles whose ICE runs on anything but DC.
That not turn certain car demand to much power...The alternator can not keep up with the demand. I work at a dealership Hyundai Genesis.If the battery is low the car steering will cause flickering then the car will turn off.Even if you rev up the engine because the car demand even more power.
Thank you for making these videos!
so informative and motivating!
Thank you very much. It is indeed an exciting time in our history, as a senior citizen I can tell you I have been fascinated by the technology. Just in my Life timeI. I personally gone from turning the crank on the telephone to get the switchboard operator, to owning a smart phone, it still blows my mind. Not to mention the Space race.
Power density and specific power density are both almost at theoretical maximums for batteries. The laws of physics basically don't allow power densities like fuel does.
Nicola Tesla was the biggest genius ever lived
+Sayed Abdullah, YES HE was so why did USA steal all his techology ???? and not share with world.... guess because USA has always been the idiot lying, cheating stealing corp
GODLIKE
I bet you don't even know what he invented😀
No, he is just overrated.
Yes, it is the truth
Thank You All for the video but most of all Thank You to those who have did the work and are doing the work to bring us clean, and affordable, energy. Love & Peace to All
Thank you for making such an amazing video (not to mention all the research and information ). Thank you
Tesla haven't solved South Australia's black out issues. 2 days ago they had further black outs from another heatwave coming from Western Australia. It was a very positive step towards renewable energy but there is much more still needed to be done by our government to fix these issues such taking advantage of all the solar, wind and tidal power potential Australia has. We could run our whole country of these alone while still being able to export this to other countries such as those in South-East Asia and the South Pacific.
Andrea Rossi has 'LENR' technology that may revolutionize/disrupt. It's coming onto market this year.
all we need to do is release the Quantum engines we already have one example is the John Seral quantum engine he developed in the fifties and used for a number of years till the electric company showed up with gun carrying military and confiscated it...look it up I did a (I believe, controlled) offshoot company is still in operation yet I believe they have taken a couple of steps back from the original research. if you want to be informed concentrate on his earlier work.
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I've never seen a normal average person laughing at batteries lol.. Just politicians
When it come to xbox controllers
Well than you shouldn't talk to automotive engineers. You would be disappointed.
Okay, it's changing now, but when I told my colleagues for the last 10 years that battery cars are the future the were laughing at this idea.
I laugh at batteries....matter a fact im going to walmart and buying a fresh pack of energizers...cant wait!
@@Steppenkater My problem with battery powered cars at this current time is their cost both money wise, the fact we don't have charging stations like gas stations, and fact I don't want to wait 30 mins to upwards of 12 hours to top off when I'm on a long trip, when with a gas engine I can fuel up in just a couple minutes, and be on my way. So till I can get a full charge out of a battery car/truck in less than 10 mins gas will remain a key power source for cars, and more so in rural areas such as mine where something as simple as a Walmart or Aldi store is a 30+ min drive. I'm not knocking them, just saying it will be a very long time before they take over if ever fully, but I can see more, and more Hybrid plugin cars/trucks in the next 10 years where the gas motor takes over on very long trips.
@@CommodoreFan64 You didn't consider a lot of points:
Beside that you will never need more than 1 hour to "top off", to charge for 30 mins will only be needed on long journeys. For the daily use you will start every morning with a full battery and you will never need to make a detour to "fill up" your car.
Then you underestimate the simplicity of electric drive trains. Today nobody cares that we have often our car get repaired because we got used to it. But when suddenly this is no longer the case you will wonder how long you could drive around with this terrible ICE-technology. And don't get me started with engine stalling, noise, vibration, wear of brake pads, problems with starting the engine in the winter, delay of response when hitting the accelerator pedal, and so on.
It will for sure not take "a very long time" before people will prefer battery cars over ICE-cars. You will see.
Love your Book Mate, Just got myself a Kindle Edition ! ☮️✌️
More more more more! Batteries actually get me so excited for the future. I did my Engineering masters entirely focused on batteries. Such an interesting and exciting topic. Great video man!
Hey I think you get this somewhat wrong. Batteries will definitely play a role in grids and cars, but it seems very unlikely that they are the only solution playing a role in storage.
Look around for the needed storage sizes for 100% renewable systems. They are in the TWh range. For a single big country. That is the current Tesla Giga factory had to produce 50 years at 20 GWh/year to have 1 TWh. Which is not even enough for one country. Why is it so much? Seasonal storage. Day and night is one problem, summer and winter are a much bigger one.
The solution is most likely a mix of (storage) technologies. Look for example this paper (arxiv.org/pdf/1801.05290.pdf) where they to a simulation of all of Europe including all kinds of storage technology and sector coupling, as well as storage in EVs and grid extensions.
More over, I also believe transportation will not rely just on batteries (and so does Toyota btw.). Different modes will use different technologies. Short distance there will be a lot of batteries, long distance and high traffic density probably battery and some kind of rail system to charge along the way. Long distance and low density (and aircrafts) some kind of co2 neutral liquid fuel.
Otherwise great work, maybe a bit Tesla heavy.
High quality comment on TH-cam? INSANITY!!
Seriously though, I wish I could upvote this 100 times. Batteries are NOT the future, for the exact reason you just stated. There just isn't enough battery components worldwide to supply the need for storage if all countries go renewable. They are a good transition tool, but in the long term, other solutions will need to be put in place. Also, energy density for batteries is just too low.
@@Rhannmah A big point in this video is the innovations in battery tech increasing capacity while decreasing cost, volume, and weight. Both batteries and super capacitors can become more efficient.
If you solely judge the situation by only current tech, then yes, it's not the most ideal solution. But there will be advances in energy storage, which if combined with renewable energy sources, certainly will cut down on long term pollution as well as cheapen energy costs.
@@justinw1765 This opinion is not based on current technology, but rather on the physical limits of current technology. Take the example of the gigafactory I gave. Lets assume it is able to double its output every 5 years. You would still need more than 15 years to produce 1TWh of batteries. And 1TWh is not enough storage for ONE decently sized economy to get through winter. 1TWh storage for gas or liquid fuel on the other hand is easily done. (power to gas has other problems of course)
Also nobody in this thread disputes we need renewable energy or storage.
1:17 wheight is also a factor
And that's where hydrogen can play a role. In applications like aircraft, or marine vessels a hydrogen fuel cell power train can scale much better than batteries due to the weight and size of large battery packs. Of course as battery capacity increases this benefit shrinks more and more and the drawbacks of using hydrogen fuel cells start to infringe on its benefits.
@@slanahesh I think hydrogen might be the solution for the airline industry in the future because standard batteries are just too heavy for aircraft
@@Ian-oe9wp for now they are. But yes I agree that it is definately an avenue that should be explored. If some of these battery advancements are to be believed eventually the difference in weight between the two systems could be negligble.
Hydrogen fuel is not emission free. Hydrogen reacts with Oxygen to produce water vapour. Water vapour is a greenhouse gas. Airplanes already emit water vapour at very high altitudes, amplifying the damage to our atmosphere. Hydrogen fuel emits more water vapour per kg of fuel than conventional hydrocarbon fuels, meaning that it is not a viable solution to global warming.
@@samovarmaker9673 I'd say the potential of reducing an aeroplanes or bulk cargo vessels emissions to just water vapour is acceptable, anyway that water vapour can be condensed and drank by the passengers. Additionally a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle is also one big mobile air scrubber. The air that comes out the back is far cleaner than when it went in so air quality will be improved if we had millions of them moving around the world.
Impressive your list of sources! Very Well Done and Thanks for Sharing :)
Best youtube channel for information and tech.
Hands down.
I've been here ever since your galaxy note videos. And it's been more and more amazing ever since.
Ahh..the good old days. When I used to have to buy 6 humongous batteries to power my ghetto blaster and would be lucky if I got 4 hours continuous use from it. :(
*_Elon Musk wants to know your location_*
Why do these comments even exists?
Because they're funny.
@@Everlast_37 landing rocket vertically is special. This comment is far from it.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) its a joke
@@Everlast_37 You he's help kid
Dagogo..just bought your book and very much excited about it. Technology has revolutionized civilization. Batteries have come a long way and it would be interesting to see how actually today’s recycling process works. We might have a solution for tomorrow but we need to work on technology for recycling of today.
I love the new intro, keep up the good work!!!
To make a big impact, the idea has to be made into the real & scaled to the scale of billions of units for billions of people ^^ Tesla Gigafactory FTW
Future of battery
That's why Tesla started Tesla Powerwall
But it HAS to be connected to the internet to work.
@@maxrockatansky1981 There is an emergency(Paul's Hardware has one, and has done a few videos on it) mode where if the network is down it will still work, but in general use yes it does, and current cost is beyond what a lot of households can afford far as the upfront cost goes, and lets not forget the in some areas the local building codes don't help any either with the price of the powerwall. So I don't see them being commonplace anytime soon.
! Trump would like to know about this power wall you speak of !
Thank you for this video and also for posting all your sources. Very scholarly.
I recently found out about all Iron batteries. Basically iron suspended in a salt solution. They're super big compared to lithium batteries, but they can be drained and charged an unlimited number of times. They never wear out and even if you did want to recycle or destroy them, none of the components are toxic. You can literally dump the contents on the ground and it will do no harm to the ecosystem. These are obviously not going to be useful for cars or phones because they're too big, but they'd be great as a local power station to store solar/wind.
Not until we get 500 miles per charge from a relatively small battery will people really start to notice the power of the battery.
Question: In the areas of the U.S. where they have flooding, would you want to drive an electric car?... hummmm
Nor a gasoline car. Better diesel if you have flooding.
COBALT a Rare Element getting very scarce,the main consistent of the battery,no future.
What you meant to say is: Thank you Elon Musk
for what?
@@chupamishuevos303 for being gay obviously
For advancing battery technology. 10 years ago battery tech was pretty much stagnant. After Elon built Tesla cars based on Li-ion tech, the world started realizing that Li-ion has great potential, and can infact be made safer, cheaper, viable for bigger systems. The powerwall followed soon after, and bam! Everyone was into LI ion all of a sudden, trying to make bigger better safer batteries for the car industry and for electricity storage.
@@Fungineers That was the entire point of tesla. Their goal never was to make money or become the worlds largest all-electric car seller. Elon said he wanted to make enough of a shift so that other car manufacturers would jump onboard with electrification. He's accomplished that goal.
@@Fungineers Elon hasn't built any car, he doesn't know how automotive or electrical engineering works, and Tesla hasn't furthered any battery "tech" It's Panasonic that make all the batteries. Also, that battery storage thing is dumb and redundant. Why not use that power to pump for example water up a mountain or water tower for then to release it when needed onto the existing grid? Better, cheaper, safer and less stupid.
Batteries aren't what is standing in our way; physics and losses are far more of a factor
ColdFusion video always inspiring me
battery costs are 70% cheaper than many year ago but the price of Tesla cars are double in 2019. Wow, corporations win again
It's a fairly new company, costs will come down as more people buy more of them. Tesla focused on luxury cars initially to make it attractive to people that had big bucks. The gamble (and it was a gamble) worked fairly well, and now they have a foothold in the previously ICE dominant car market which was dominated by huge, long running corporations specialized in that area.
While the Model 3 is not exactly affordable to the average person, it's a lot less than their other models.
Partly because of Tesla, more and more electric cars are in the works.
Sondor's is working on an electric vehicle that he wants to sell for about 10, 000 for the base model.
@@justinw1765 the electric transport it's a mirage, it won't be any cheaper to buy or run compared to calsic cars. The price of electricity will go up cuz u will have more consumers and the pollution part of it won't be resolved many years from now because batteries are not environmental friendly at all and the production of electricity is made mostly by burning coa and fossil fuels and it will be like this another 20, 30 years at least
@@HowDareYouu The difference is that I can make my own clean fuel for an EV. Can't do that with an ICE vehicle. Decentralisation of power generation is the key here.
I never understood why people laughed and mocked batteries, solar and wind.
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Cost to performance ratio in comparison with diesel internal combustion engines.
then maybe you could learn some physics and maths so you can finally understand.
Start with the simple calculation of how much space it would take to replace all non-solar power production by solar panels.
continue by failing to figure out where would you then cram the fields needed to grow food for earth's population.
Batteries because it was very expensive, and still is relatively expensive. Even now energy storage capacity of batteries is very small compared to for example gasoline. Of course 75% of the energy in gasoline is wasted to heat in car use. Then there is other problems, like the battery wears out in use, etc. New battery types are promising tough, time will tell how will they do. Battery prices will need to drop a lot, for them to become competitive to other energy storage methods. For example that power bank there, is mainly useful because of speed. Its energy storage capacity is low compared to its price. The purpose of that is to balance the grid, when solar and wind production is unstable, because electricity production and usage must always be in balance.
@Kevin Oloane i'd guess people who don't have enough money so that any random unreasonable idea we produce will get far enough for the media and general public to learn about it and for them to ignore all of its problems because "but he's got money, so he's GOTTA know what he's doing, so all you naysayers pointing out the basic laws of physics that make it unreasonable are just haters!"
Thank you for the amazing content you produce
Love your videos, especially ones like this.
Solved South Australias blackout problems, yeah right there were blackouts last week.
they mean in general. nothing is ever perfect but it sure has improved almost all of the problems and @Brian Bella the battery’s they use can be put into other products when they become non effective
As an electrical engineer I can guarantee you that the battery installed in Sth Austria isn’t storing or providing renewable power or energy of significance. What it is doing is supply a few moments of power while normal generators are started. The electrical problems in South Australia were created by renewables and poorly designed grid interconnects. That battery and the nearly wind far doesn’t provide significant power. 150MWHr of energy is maybe 5% of Sth Australia’s electrical demand for 1 hour. Using that full nominal capacity repeatedly would destroy the battery. Lithium ion batteries are not being recycled.
Anyone know anything about graphene?
I'm learning a lot in the book
Id also like to introduce another method of energy storage. This one is called Pumped Heat Storage. Basically the machine is a heat pump, and the energy is stored as a temperature difference. The compressed gas is hot and it will transfer the heat onto another medium. The other tank is the opposite i.e. it gets cooled instead. There is no restraints on what can be used here. Gravel, waste concrete, scrap metal, etc. Of course there will be materials that hold the heat better than others, but the flexibility means that different materials can be chosen based on requirements vs cost. The heat/cold tanks can then change gas pressures which then can create the pressure needed to drive a generator to turn the energy back into electricity. Oh and those who have tested small scaled versions of these things reports about 70% round trip efficiency. Its obviously lower than a lithium gigabattery station would do but with its low cost, its definitely something to look into. Check it out, you have google right?
Your mention of Ambri's "Molten Metal Battery" for grid level storage is dubious. Although the "theory" looked promising, that company continues to move from financial & technical crisis to crisis. Unfortunately, they also failed to consider the continuing downward price spiral of Lithium Ion Batteries so their supposed use of CHEAP materials becomes less and less competitive. Meanwhile, Tesla's battery in Australia keeps racking up bonus points for real world performance.
I'm thinking you also need a lot of luck to get enough support for your battery chemistry to get it competitive.
Otherwise there's always vanadium redox. Maybe a bit less efficient than lithium-ion batteries, but they don't degrade over time for the sole reason nearly everything is a fluid inside the battery.
Hey there,thanks for this upload was quite surprised by the R&D made on batteries.
B.T.W. You are awesome(even you who is reading,if any).
You are more awesome
@@abdallahmahmoud8642 Thank you very much!
8:36 That other guy on the right jumped out of his chair faster than a Space X rocket, haha!
I am happy that I see this changes in the world of technologies.
We need power storage, not necessarily batteries.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic.
@@RBzee112 No. For grid storage mainly you can have other countless ways of storing excess energy then electric batteries.
Like oil.
@@camberwellcarrot420more like gravity based storage, hydrogen generation, flywheels, molten salt, compressed air, etc.
@@SimeonRadivoev
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how ebook is sold out?
Play along.
He probably meant hard copies.
Running out of electronic ink
Marketing gimmick
What if I told you there will always have people who prefer physical copy.
This is the way forward . The reason I stay subscribe to your channel is because of stuff like this👍
your videos are ssooooo good always, full of great information, very edicational! thank you
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What happens to all those chemicals after the batteries are discarded? What about the toxic materials from the solar panels, or wind turbines.
Don't get me wrong, I support advancements in technology, but I want clean energy.
If this or any battery tech is able to meet energy needs with even just half of the pollution currently being made, we should implement it, since it can able been improved on. As a species, we needed these solutions yesterday.
Almost all the raw materials are valuable and therefore it is economical to recycle nearly everything. It would take sheer negligence on a massive scale for this to become a major source of pollution.
From what I understand, Tesla wants their batteries back when customers need to get new ones. Elon has said in interviews that he wants to create a closed loop so he doesn’t have to keep searching and negotiating for battery materials.
There's no such thing as "100% clean".
There's always waste and byproducts.
@@LuckyFlesh But there is if you can produce it is another thing...If you pedal on a generator to create power.Then you would be create a hundred percent clean power.You may not see it but there way to create one hundred percent.There are also charge suit that used your electricity...
I didn't know you were from Australia. I always figured Great Britain. Shows what I know. Congrats on the book. I get all my books from the library though. I do watch all your videos and enjoy them all every single one thank you.
Very important and futuristic video.i will research for it.
Batteries (for now) are even worse than oilproducts. Do you even know what 'rare earth minerals' means? You dig a huge hole first, you mine the shit, then you get rid of stuff in it that you don't need (that's most of the material and it's highly toxic) and after that you'll be left with small amounts of usable material.
If you consider that you need to dig a hole as big as China to give the rest of the world phones and windturbines (yes they contain some of the same) and you also need a secured landfill as big as the UK and a wastepond as big as the caspian sea to store the chemicals used to devide the 'good stuff' from the 'bad stuff', I doubt that the 'The Future' would last very long with poison like that laying around.
why dont we store large amount of energy in the form of hydrogen? to then reuse.
Because you'd need a hydrogen engine as well to power electronics. Not very practical for portable devices.
Because of the low efficiency conversion, both ways. And storage issues. Huge energy loss when converting water, and lots of waste heat when hydro-generating. We haven't invented a machine yet that can convert electricity into enough hydrogen so that you are able to get almost the same amount of energy back from burning said hydrogen. Simply sticking an electrode into water generates 20% hydrogen and 80% waste byproducts (heat, smoke, galvanization, hydroplating, leaks in the tubing system, heat from all the resistance in the wires/water, slow disintegrating of the electrode, etc) And even if we did have the technology for making the above 99% efficient, turning the created hydrogen back into electricity is very inefficient still. And storing it, oh my. Putting it under pressure is expensive. Compressors that size eat terawatts of power. Or if you choose not to pressurize, then procuring enough giant containers will be the problem. Plus pumping it in/out all the time.
Oh man the future is bright!! So stoked 🎉🔥🤘🏽🤘🏽
I love this channel. Awesome documentaries
Tesla did not fix ALL of Australia energy issues? It's just a grid frequency battery. It's not really there for the grid to supply but cover voltage and frequency Control in terms of contracts. The unfortunate thing is...it's actually a small market in wholesale markets ( look up national grid UK for more on these types as UK is no most progressive energy regulator) so even if you build say 51gw of batteries to support 50 gw of batteries. And they all are decentralised. It means you are basically having them sit there for hours and not doing much at all. So wholesale power prices go up. Basically if 50% of the grid is renewable prices double and same with 100% because it'd just gonna not be utilised all the time at full capacity. So the investment is like overcapacity and would reduce competition. Batteries are needed but...it's not the solution entirely and that's the biggest issue, the grid stabilizes but PRICES will go up not down. But maybe that's the price we pay for carbon neutral/free technology so therefore carbon tax is desirable but I don't see this fixing our heating or steel production. We need a new plan
TheMagicJIZZ When did he say that Tesla fixed “all” of Australia’s energy issues? He specifically said that *Tesla solved the grid blackout problem.* Which is absolutely true.
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These videos make me so excited about the future.