Gothic 2: How much can you upgrade the claw of Beliar?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ย. 2017
  • Thought this might be interesting for someone
    You can wield it from level 1 (not 0 because as far as I know you can't kill Raven without receiving xp for the kill) , but upgrade it only from level 11
    Starting stats:
    100 damage
    12 extra damage chance
    End stats:
    120 damage
    50 extra damage chance
    You can upgrade it a total of 20 times costing you 100 max health in total (meaning you have 410 instead of 510 max hp at level 47 assuming you didn't use anything that increases your max health)
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  • @wirowmaker
    @wirowmaker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    This music never ends ... is 2019 but gothic music is infinite ...!

  • @Sawizzard
    @Sawizzard 6 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    lol I had no idea you could get to Jharkendar like that :D you completely broke the game.

    • @BlackSecrit
      @BlackSecrit  6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      playing on 30 fps you can probably also clip through the wall without transformation

  • @BalticVendetta
    @BalticVendetta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    When you play Gothic 1 music in a Gothic 2 video... Double Nostalgia Bonus ;-D

  • @puczymordagemonprzywodcadz3864
    @puczymordagemonprzywodcadz3864 5 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    o w dupe

  • @12345DJay
    @12345DJay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    it doesn't matter when you get the claw or when you start upgrading it.
    it always maxes out at the same level, with the same stats and costs the same hitpoints.
    for example if you get it at level 29 and you upgrade it once (one handed, which is much better because faster and less buggy combos) it jumps straight to 100 dmg and 32 crit costing you 55 hp
    also it is the most broken weapon in the game. if you kill human NPCs with the lightning damage it doesn't count as a regular kill and people don't want to murder you.
    Bonus damage also ignores blocks, making it extremely strong vs lizardmen and orcs.
    bonus damage is also flat 100 hp every time no matter the level of the weapon and enemy armor

    • @razorblind728
      @razorblind728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes,once you have that knowledge you realise it is the best weapon,and you are the master of the claw.

    • @adziup
      @adziup 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@razorblind728 and that the claw is freakin op and should not be in the game and you should not use that because your progress and weaponry you have and make are useless and by that game is ruined and provides no pleasure of playing

    • @razorblind728
      @razorblind728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@adziup I have came to the same conclusion. I don't think I will use it ever again.If you are a pro gothic player it makes the game too easy,it is cool for new players though.Also one handed variation is way stronger than two handed one.

    • @rks8820
      @rks8820 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@adziup I agree. This is why I only play vanilla nowadays. In NotR even if you decide to not use the claw you have to do the extremely tedious stat potion & stone tablet minmaxing and the difficulty of the game becomes completely inconsistent. Vanilla is way less tedious.

    • @Felixlayer
      @Felixlayer ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@adziup well you can always destroy it to get some xp, game never forces you to wield it, unlike others where the main reward from the expansion would be simply the sword. Here you can destroy it, also get a nice rune if im not mistaken, dont remember well.
      You can just simply play the game without it, while other players may want to feel utterly powerful in a run, so they would use it.
      Also, by using it, you basically become Beliar pawn, which in roleplaying terms is "wrong".

  • @yorugan1806
    @yorugan1806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    cant believe raven cant clap a golem

  • @sicaurzica
    @sicaurzica 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No way!, it was Blac Secrit who uploaded this video, Thank You!

    • @Cestuasa7
      @Cestuasa7 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Salut si tie

  • @DeKrischa
    @DeKrischa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I forgot about the weapon, I found the speedrun amazing!

  • @PartyQuest
    @PartyQuest 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Amazing video! Can't wait to play gothic 2 again to get my hands on that weapon!

    • @It4int0ver
      @It4int0ver 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Party Quest there are better weapons at this level

    • @PartyQuest
      @PartyQuest 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@It4int0ver i like the aesthetic of this weapon and the lighting attacks that bypass blocks.

    • @jabon9472
      @jabon9472 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So you are noob i guess

    • @kaczkachlebaczka182
      @kaczkachlebaczka182 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jabon9472 well u r nub he is actually pro

    • @jabon9472
      @jabon9472 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kaczkachlebaczka182 only noobs use beliar's claw

  • @scolco1
    @scolco1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    good old transform scroll glitch. love it

  • @Meikitamemo
    @Meikitamemo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    You can upgrade the Claw once @ every 2 levels.
    However the max Lv requirement for the Claw is 48 which is pretty hard to get to in the default version of the game.
    But i have tested this with a mod called Heights of Power and the max level of the claw remains the same.
    Once you are above Character Level 48 you cannot upgrade the Claw any further.
    So bassicly the max level of the Claw is Lv.24
    This also means that if you collect the Claw above lv 48 and Activate it , it's instant max level without the need to sacrifise any HP to wield it's power.
    But all in all it's a damn strong Weapon about equally strong as the Wrath of Innos Blade.
    The only difference between the 2 is that the Claw leave behind electric lightnings even when blocking attacks.
    Which makes this Weapon so damn strong ^^
    But good video :)

    • @BlackSecrit
      @BlackSecrit  6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      So you can max it with only a single sacrifice? never knew that thx for the info

    • @Meikitamemo
      @Meikitamemo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      If you are Level 48+ when activating it then yes you can :)
      But in default Gothic 2 + Night of the Raven this will be nearly impossible.
      But with Heights of Power this is a peace of cake :p
      Keep in mind though that Heights of Power will increase game difficulty & it will give more 3x more HP but also more exp.
      Heights of Power will also give more exp for certain choices [Sample: Pay the gold for Gritta to Matteo]
      It also adds new weapons [Swords , Bows , Crossbows , etc]
      But it also fixes the pernament potion stat increase [From 3 to 5]
      Heights of power will also allow you to get to 300 Strength / Dexterity [Default this is 200]
      But you can also train it through certain trainers like Cassia to 200 Strength / Dexterity
      Should you want to see a view point on how different it is.
      Then go to my Channel and check the 1st episode of my Adanos Playthrough + the 1st episode of my Innos Playthrough.
      The best example i can give is that in the default game , a Young Field Raider requires a Fire Arrow ,
      [25 Damage] but with Heights of Power the Fireball [75 Damage] will not even kill it.
      Playthrough of Beliar is coming soon :)
      But i am pretty sure the video's will show the major differences between the 2 :)
      So if you want , you can find enough video's that will show the differences
      [1/3] = Adanos [With Heights of Power] [G2]
      [2/3] = Innos [Without Heights of Power] [G2]
      [3/3] = Beliar [With Heights of Power] [G2] [Coming Soon!]
      But you are welcome my friend :)
      Keep up the good work

    • @TheSharpmarksman
      @TheSharpmarksman 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Meikitamemo how do you install the height of power?

    • @Meikitamemo
      @Meikitamemo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheSharpmarksman It's rather simple :)
      1: Download Heights of Power [Best way is to download it from World of Gothic]
      2: Open Heights of Power via Winrar on any other same like program
      3: Copy paste: _Work & Data folder to anywhere you like [Desktop / Gothic 2 Folder works best]
      4: Run the installer exe
      5: Select the within the installer the folder map where you Gothic files are located @.
      This can either be within the Steam folder or JoWooD production folder and if it all should work then the installer will detect the Gothic 2 Exe and thus can install if it doesn't find the exe the installer will remain gray when trying to install.
      If you can't figure it out let me know and i try to help once more ^^
      Be warned though Heights of Power makes the game quite a bit harder :)
      You can find playthrough's on my channel should you need a guide etc
      Path [1/3] has 100% accurate time links for you to enjoy ^^
      GL my friend :3

    • @mariutunio
      @mariutunio 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Meikitamemo It's not that hard to reach level 48+, just complete every quest, kill every orc inside the Colony and do some backtracking to Jharkendar. Usually I'm about level 50 when going to Irdorath.

  • @mariutunio
    @mariutunio 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    That was just two-handed version. One-handed Claw's max abilities are damage 110 with 50% chance of extra damage.

    • @BlackSecrit
      @BlackSecrit  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I didnt really think to check that

    • @XxNiiCeBoYxX
      @XxNiiCeBoYxX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't spread misinformation. The fact that one handed does 110 dmg with 50% chance of extra damage but 2 handed version is 120 dmg with same crit chance. If you ask me I would go for one handed because you are doubtless slower with two handed and only have 10dmg more which is not worth it

    • @razorblind728
      @razorblind728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@XxNiiCeBoYxX how is that misinformation? He only stated what its stats are.

  • @user-jh4if4og5y
    @user-jh4if4og5y 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good work m8 cheers

  • @mkkuc
    @mkkuc 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Nice

  • @PartyQuest
    @PartyQuest 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    yeah i finished gothic 2 with YAUP 2.5 and got my hands on that sucker! (was nerfed a bit) but still haha!

  • @MegaUrviS
    @MegaUrviS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    O bogowie, walka!

  • @justmusic3523
    @justmusic3523 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    fun fact: If you hit the golem with the claw of beliar and trigger the lightning, you wil kill it instantly ;x

  • @GiancarloDiamond
    @GiancarloDiamond 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol i never knew you cen server Beliar to get to equip this weapon which apparently is the strongest in the whole game

  • @xyzzy-dv6te
    @xyzzy-dv6te 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think you can kill Raven without XP by luring him to the spike trap and activating it with the correct lever (the spikes won't come up under you)

    • @BlackSecrit
      @BlackSecrit  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I checked it out and you're right but you would have to get above 50 health to survive the lightning damage that you take when damaging him

    • @BeHappyTo
      @BeHappyTo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@BlackSecrit maybe some kind of wearable item that increases hp

  • @stevino7415
    @stevino7415 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I still wish a coop mod for this game :/

    • @kuksio92
      @kuksio92 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      there is some MP mod but dunno if there are quests

  • @tomek3470
    @tomek3470 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    recently i kill raven without gettin exp, golem punch him so high he died from fall damage, sadly i did get level from talikg to saturas

  • @ivar2428
    @ivar2428 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    i guess it's more useful to use another weapon by the end of the game ;D, anyway good vid

    • @Mettttie
      @Mettttie 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah also if your a magician the beliar runes you get for it suck. Not worth the effort

    • @tequillaaa
      @tequillaaa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      the added magic damage makes it actually the strongest weapon in game
      1. it deals 100 true damage ignoring every enemies armor on top on its 110/120 damage (1 handed/ 2 handed) so with 50% hit chance for magic that means 160/170 damage which is effectively more than any other weapon since part of the damage ignores armor
      2. the magic damage can't be blocked so enemies that block a lot like orks suffer a lot
      3. on some enemies the magic damage is dealt multiple times due to hitbox glitch, especially golems get shutdown almost every time by a single blow
      the only downside is that it costs 100 permanent HP to upgrade to level 20 but you can easily get that back by praying

    • @xyzzy-dv6te
      @xyzzy-dv6te 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tequillaaa and you don't get 2000 exp from destroying it

    • @nameless-hu4mm
      @nameless-hu4mm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      if you are playing as a hunter its the best weapon, cause you dont want to go much strength and the magic damge is insane, you can kill everything with this weapon its op.

    • @ze_rubenator
      @ze_rubenator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nameless-hu4mm I've stayed home playing NotR during the outbreak, I played as an archer and honestly I very rarely needed to use a sword or magic at all. Just rain of fire on the bandit tower to stop Greg from killing them, and sword to finish off a few brawls without killing the opponent (which you can't do with the Claw anyway). The only annoyance was trolls since they're invulnerable to piercing damage, but there are ways around that. Generally there's no point switching to sword in close combat, since arrows can't be blocked, stun the enemy and do a shitload of damage.

  • @kamilhehe6603
    @kamilhehe6603 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    o bogowie

  • @MegaLol2xd
    @MegaLol2xd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    so, you can upgrade it only once at level 47 and get maxed stats for less health loss?

    • @BlackSecrit
      @BlackSecrit  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah but the health loss will be 100 so its actually not cheaper

  • @BaranZenon
    @BaranZenon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Claw of Beliar is such a herpy derp weapon. With it you can relativlly easlly kill every orc in the Minning Valley in chapter 2 (their are some mean points, but nothing a Rain of Fire Scroll + Speed potion combo cant fix). It is just make the game to easy. Which is a shame that the spells from it for the Mage sucks so much balls. :(

    • @BlackSecrit
      @BlackSecrit  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      thats why i never use this weapon, the lightning chance and damage is way too high

    • @karpinchudy
      @karpinchudy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BlackSecrit my boii

    • @tequillaaa
      @tequillaaa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I still love it... it's just so satisfying melting through a golem in a single strike....
      well to be fair mages got pretty damn enough OP spells in fact once you get past the basic spells and a decent amount of mana the game is no challenge anymore

    • @xyzzy-dv6te
      @xyzzy-dv6te 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The life-stealing spell is useful because it makes beating up people a lot easier, and the zombie summon spell is good against seekers and helpful against orcs, lizard men and dragons.

    • @TheMetastasia
      @TheMetastasia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always turned it into a spell as a mage :P
      To have an OP-Sword is ok, but you get it way too eraly. But honestly, Vanilla G2 was way easier. I was killing shadow hunters before chapter 2.....

  • @1sherf
    @1sherf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Спасибо

  • @linkoscuro457
    @linkoscuro457 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    and whats is the fire claw in lis of commands

    • @BlackSecrit
      @BlackSecrit  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      if you mean ItMw_BeliarWeapon_Fire
      then I dont really know Its probably just cut content

    • @linkoscuro457
      @linkoscuro457 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@BlackSecrit Ah ok is that I generate it with commands and I thought it was when you improved the maximum the claw and ao see this video I missed

  • @redtemplar1028
    @redtemplar1028 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Up to lv 47

  • @x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x
    @x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The max level for claw is 47, not 50.

    • @BlackSecrit
      @BlackSecrit  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The video shows that beyond 47 nothing happens

  • @fxlip786
    @fxlip786 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I find that statute of beliar?

    • @BlackSecrit
      @BlackSecrit  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      on top of Xardas tower

    • @fxlip786
      @fxlip786 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlackSecrit thanks bro I was searching that like for an hour :D

  • @hengistcz1940
    @hengistcz1940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is that sword a frostmourne copy?

    • @Mad_Maniac
      @Mad_Maniac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No? Frostmourne as an artifact weapon with skull on it isn't like super original concept.

  • @iamkurek5200
    @iamkurek5200 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    funny to see but not useful at all if any npc see u after transforming into monster they will hunt u forever so u ruin all quests in jarkendar bandit camp and it always maxes up at the same lvl cap for example it doesnt matter if u unlock it on lvl 21 or 1 as if u pray for beliar u will lose more hp and "max out" beliar claw for your lvl cap this way u can just get it earlier and ruin your free exp from quests in bandit camp *which i always kill at the end game anyway*

  • @ka302
    @ka302 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    To jest kurwa ulepszalne :OOOOOOOOOOO??

    • @PaveraPL
      @PaveraPL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      W pewnym sensie. Po prostu zawsze jak się modlisz do Beliara to Szpon się dostosowuje do Ciebie. Im większy masz lvl, tym większe zadaje dmg. Jeżeli np. za pierwszym razem dostałeś Szpon jednoręczny, a potem w trakcie gry zdobyłeś jednak więcej % dwuręcznej, to zmienia się on na dwuręczny. Dmg się zwiększa bodajże co 3 lvle, ale nie musisz tego robić równomiernie. Możesz np. grać cały czas najsłabszą wersją i na 48 lvlu pomodlić się i dostaniesz taki sam Szpon, jak gdyby modlił się co 3 lvle od początku. HP też stracisz tyle samo, więc bez różnicy.

  • @DarkPeter
    @DarkPeter 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cant equip as a mage??

    • @BlackSecrit
      @BlackSecrit  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      mages can use beliars magic runes

    • @DarkPeter
      @DarkPeter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Black Secrit i didnt know that before, so i cheated a characterhelper guy in, changed my guild to paladin, upgraded the weapon, changed it back to mage and kept on playing like that
      I know its chrating tho

  • @byspanky
    @byspanky 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ill go for ore dragon slayer vs this sword pure damage is better than chances damage

  • @copywritergrzegorz
    @copywritergrzegorz ปีที่แล้ว

    Doesn't matter. Its still shit. Bersekers axe is way better weapon. At the end of your game you are able to beat Orc on one hit. Its only useful when you are playing as a mage but also not so much. Better deal it for XP,.

  • @patrykrys3153
    @patrykrys3153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This weapon is too broken and op. I always give it back to saturas to not break the game for myself.

    • @user-eg3nd9uv8c
      @user-eg3nd9uv8c 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bruhhhh...I hate saturas and all water mage members!!! I would take the sword for my own,so I can kill everyone I don’t like and control the whole world 😈 muhahaha

  • @jabon9472
    @jabon9472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good player throws away beliar's claw because he knows it is too op and dumb

  • @jonahb5629
    @jonahb5629 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just check the game files... Lmao

  • @HunterShows
    @HunterShows ปีที่แล้ว

    I had no clue how this sword worked. Got it, upgraded it once, took like 55 health away and couldn't upgrade it again. And did less damage than my other sword. So??

  • @MrOthello7
    @MrOthello7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1h better

    • @rakso553
      @rakso553 ปีที่แล้ว

      2h better

    • @MrOthello7
      @MrOthello7 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rakso553 morra przestań

    • @rakso553
      @rakso553 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrOthello7 Niestety
      takie fakty

  • @Consti00001
    @Consti00001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you ignore the whole story to get the sword........ speedrun kills every rpg atmosphare........ you dont understand the Sens for playing rpgs.........

    • @ogorek4205
      @ogorek4205 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      have you heared about speedruning idiot? he propable allready played this game normally like 10 times. now he is just speed running

    • @WhoMightThis1Be
      @WhoMightThis1Be 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ogorek4205 Not even that, it's just a showcase, he even cheats in trolls at the end.
      No idea why you would expect someone to play the whole game again to make a 5 minute video to show something very specific like that. then again he could have just cheated the sword in too

    • @HunterShows
      @HunterShows ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WhoMightThis1Be No clue why he did all that gamey nonsense to get the sword if he just wanted to show it off.