I admire your profoùnd knowledge You remind me of my father late Sri. T.K.Radhakrishnan flutist who learnt telugu to enjoy Thyagaiyar kritis who later became proficient to the extent of transliterating kritis by his father Lalithadasar. No wonder we call the language Sundara Thelungu.. Pramaaadamaana explanation Expecting the same for the other pancharathna keerthanais too.. Loads of blessings sir
Sir, a huge respect and appreciation to you for converting a criticism into constructive feedback and educating us with the nuances. Similar to “Thangapathakkam”, I remembered the dialogue in thiruvilaiyadal - on the same lines - “குற்றம் கண்டுபிடித்தே பெயர் வாங்கும் தமிழ் ஆர்வலர்கள்” நிறைய பேர் உள்ளார்கள் ! வால்க டமில் !
சலங்கை ஒலி 'நாத வினோதங்கள்' பாட்டின் முதலில் வரும் ஸ்லோகத்தில் 'வந்தே பார்வதி பரமேஷ்வரோ' என்பது 'வந்தே பார்வதிப ரமேஷ்வரோ' என்று split ஆனது நினைவுக்கு வருகிறது..
That is correct. Parvithapa Rameshvarou is another interpretation meaning Vishnu and Shiva, an intelligent split. Join online for the TH-cam live on 20th June evening and celebrate 1 year of Jannal Oram with us. Thank you.
Sir, kudos for your energy and insights. Another example you might want to highlight is about the Sanskrit sloka about Lord Ganesha - Agajaanana Padmaarkam Gajanana Maharnisam...Many sing the second line as "Aneka Damtham Bhaktaanaam" It should be sung as " Anekadam Tham Bhaktaanam".. Thanks for all your efforts again.. It is a great delight to watch you..
i have no idea why such earnestly made gem of content isnt reaching more people? Charan ji, you must consider hiring a consultant or make shorts which has wider reach and will bring more people in to subscribe to the channel. Very well done. Thank you.
Namaskaram. Very good idea that you have started as part of the JANNAL ORAM'S 'SPLIT'. Enjoyed the part one. As the Sahithyam gets split according to the Chandas plus Layam. Very happy to know the correct way to pronounce the words. Enjoyed a lot.🙏
I started watching your channel during random watch. Kamal eppisode made me curious. Since then I regularly watch. This one is awesome, particularly your reference to pancharatna krithis.
Dear Sikkil - You are simply outstanding - the conceptualisation of a topic, the contents, how to make it interesting and the presentation - You are a natural!
Very nice .. Guru .. if my memory is right MDR sung it by splitting the words correctly on pancharatnam. I heard it in my friends house many years ago .
Listened to your full concert to Jaya plus. The keeravani thillana is fantastic.. where are the lyrics from ? I think this thillana could be sung in any full fledged Carnatic concert. Your opinion please
Very interesting topic ! For long, I have wondered why the words are split to fit into a tune? Is it not possible to make the tune to fit to the words?! Funny part is while I was watching the video, the TH-cam ad split (started showing) when you had started "Kana kana ru" - and the rest followed after the ad break !!
It reminded me of our family legend about our Bangalore cousins visiting us at Coimbatore and asking the auto driver to go to 'periyAka .... daiveedi'.
Many popular songs have been mis-sung (murdered?) like this... Manavi-aalakincharaadate (sung like Manvyala Kin Cha etc etc...) Nagumomu Ganaleni (Broken has Nagumo Mu ...) BantureetiKoluvu (also sung like - Pandu reeti Golu...OR Bantureeti Kolu (instead of Koluvu) ) And 100s more...!
I like you you split the video into two parts 😀😀 in keeping with the theme of the video. Really loved this one and the humour that goes along here 😀. It has always been one of my pet peeves even with film music. Difficult for people who cannot read/write Tamil like me when we see new words.
Namaskaram. Though all the vocalists & musiccomposers take care in spilting the words of other than their mother tongue language sankeerthanas make glaring mistakes which ruins the real meaning. The singer gets labelled. Thankyou for highlighting this point. Your vision,analysis and solutions are pragmatic and far reaching. we immensely enjoy your music videos.
when we split the words, it should not change the meaning. But, Sometimes, the correct splitting of words will not be musically good. Just wanted to point out a small mistake in your amalanadhipiran singing. You sang, அரங்கது அரவினை ஆனையான். It's actually arangathu அரவின் அனையாண். Please go through the text once.
Your "DESA-MUTH-THOOMARI" pales into insignificance - when I was terribly miffed to hear in a professional cassette recording "BAADHAGAM ELLAM AGALADHAA" as "BAADHAGA-MALAM-AGALADHAA" (in the song "SODHANAI SUMAI in ragam KAAPI) by a leading lady vocalist- in the mid 1990s- not once - twice - but everytime - how does such blunders escape the attention of all concerned is baffling! :-(
I admire your profoùnd knowledge
You remind me of my father late Sri. T.K.Radhakrishnan flutist who learnt telugu to enjoy Thyagaiyar kritis who later became proficient to the extent of transliterating kritis by his father Lalithadasar.
No wonder we call the language Sundara Thelungu..
Pramaaadamaana explanation
Expecting the same for the other pancharathna keerthanais too..
Loads of blessings sir
Thank you
It takes guts to admit the issue especially from the accomplished artist . So humble 🙏.. tx for all the teachings..
🙂🙏🏾
every episode is a masterclass ❤❤ மேலோட்டமாக கர்னாடக சங்கீதம் கேட்ட என்னைப் போன்றவர்களுக்கு இது ஒரு வரம்.
Join online for the TH-cam live on 20th June evening and celebrate 1 year of Jannal Oram with us. Thank you.
@@SikkilOfficial Sure !!
Thank you for ur efforts 🙏🙏
Sir, a huge respect and appreciation to you for converting a criticism into constructive feedback and educating us with the nuances. Similar to “Thangapathakkam”, I remembered the dialogue in thiruvilaiyadal - on the same lines - “குற்றம் கண்டுபிடித்தே பெயர் வாங்கும் தமிழ் ஆர்வலர்கள்” நிறைய பேர் உள்ளார்கள் ! வால்க டமில் !
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Enjoyed it thank you!
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சலங்கை ஒலி 'நாத வினோதங்கள்' பாட்டின் முதலில் வரும் ஸ்லோகத்தில் 'வந்தே பார்வதி பரமேஷ்வரோ' என்பது 'வந்தே பார்வதிப ரமேஷ்வரோ' என்று split ஆனது நினைவுக்கு வருகிறது..
That is correct. Parvithapa Rameshvarou is another interpretation meaning Vishnu and Shiva, an intelligent split.
Join online for the TH-cam live on 20th June evening and celebrate 1 year of Jannal Oram with us. Thank you.
Parvati Parameswarau means Siva Parvati
ParvatiPha Rameswarau...this means Narayana..both are correct...
Humble, introspective, humorous, and self effacing… so much to learn from you sir.
Awesome, thank you!
Sir, kudos for your energy and insights.
Another example you might want to highlight is about the Sanskrit sloka about Lord Ganesha - Agajaanana Padmaarkam Gajanana Maharnisam...Many sing the second line as "Aneka Damtham Bhaktaanaam" It should be sung as " Anekadam Tham Bhaktaanam"..
Thanks for all your efforts again.. It is a great delight to watch you..
True. 🙏🏽
Thanks for clarification
Excellent! Nobody ever done! Hats off! 😊
Thanks. Spread the word! 🙏🏽
i have no idea why such earnestly made gem of content isnt reaching more people? Charan ji, you must consider hiring a consultant or make shorts which has wider reach and will bring more people in to subscribe to the channel. Very well done. Thank you.
Thank you. This comment is more valuable!
Namaskaram. Very good idea that you have started as part of the JANNAL ORAM'S 'SPLIT'. Enjoyed the part one. As the Sahithyam gets split according to the Chandas plus Layam. Very happy to know the correct way to pronounce the words. Enjoyed a lot.🙏
Thanks a lot
I started watching your channel during random watch. Kamal eppisode made me curious. Since then I regularly watch. This one is awesome, particularly your reference to pancharatna krithis.
Thanks. Keep watching and sharing
Very nicely done with a great level of diplomacy and humor. Waiting for the next part.
Thank you. As a composer, you would relate to what I said more I guess! 🙏🏽
A beautiful episode. Thank you so much!
மிகவும் இனிய பதிவு, அநேகமாக பஞ்ச ரத்ன கீர்த்தனை அனைத்திற்கும் இதே போன்று விளக்கம் தர வேண்டும். நல் வாழ்த்துக்கள் ஸ்ரீ குரு சரண் அவர்களுக்கு.
நன்றி
Excellent analysis. You did a fantastic threadbare explanation.
Glad you liked it!
😊😊 knowledge with humor and good music 🎶 👌 👍 Terrific combination 👌 You have excelled yourself
Thank you!
Join online for the TH-cam live on 20th June evening and celebrate 1 year of Jannal Oram with us. 🙂
Dear Sikkil - You are simply outstanding - the conceptualisation of a topic, the contents, how to make it interesting and the presentation - You are a natural!
Many many thanks
Very nice .. Guru .. if my memory is right MDR sung it by splitting the words correctly on pancharatnam. I heard it in my friends house many years ago .
Very nice concept .. very down to earth talk where we can all understand and appreciate. Nice references to movies where we can understand better
Listened to your full concert to Jaya plus. The keeravani thillana is fantastic.. where are the lyrics from ? I think this thillana could be sung in any full fledged Carnatic concert. Your opinion please
Super explanation Good .
Very interesting topic ! For long, I have wondered why the words are split to fit into a tune? Is it not possible to make the tune to fit to the words?! Funny part is while I was watching the video, the TH-cam ad split (started showing) when you had started "Kana kana ru" - and the rest followed after the ad break !!
How fitting of TH-cam to split the song in this episode !!😅
It reminded me of our family legend about our Bangalore cousins visiting us at Coimbatore and asking the auto driver to go to 'periyAka .... daiveedi'.
😂
Many popular songs have been mis-sung (murdered?) like this...
Manavi-aalakincharaadate (sung like Manvyala Kin Cha etc etc...)
Nagumomu Ganaleni (Broken has Nagumo Mu ...)
BantureetiKoluvu (also sung like - Pandu reeti Golu...OR Bantureeti Kolu (instead of Koluvu) )
And 100s more...!
I like you you split the video into two parts 😀😀 in keeping with the theme of the video. Really loved this one and the humour that goes along here 😀. It has always been one of my pet peeves even with film music. Difficult for people who cannot read/write Tamil like me when we see new words.
Humour can drive home a point better I felt. 🙂🙏🏽
We love your show, so informative! Would you mind slowing down a tad, so it is easy to follow and digest? Thank you.
I will try!
Playback speed can be adjusted on TH-cam. In case you want to try that
பஞ்சரத்ன கீர்த்தனை களில் இத்தனை விஷயம் இருக்கு என்று அறிந்து கொண்டேன், நமஸ்காரம்
Namaskaram. Though all the vocalists & musiccomposers take care in spilting the words of other than their mother tongue language sankeerthanas make glaring mistakes which ruins the real meaning. The singer gets labelled.
Thankyou for highlighting this point. Your vision,analysis and solutions are pragmatic and far reaching. we immensely enjoy your music videos.
We try our best, rest assured. 😊
very nicely explained! Relished the subtlety of your humor
Glad to hear it!
Scintillating, Try to split and explain with Rangapura vihara* 🤩
Thanks. Will try. That song mostly I have heard with the correct split only.
Sometimes I feel thala is a constraint in giving the meaning of Sahithya
Needed. Time is a constraint that needs to be used intelligent!
உங்களுக்கு தலை வணங்குகிறேன்்
சிரம் தாழ்ந்த நன்றிகள்
when we split the words, it should not change the meaning. But, Sometimes, the correct splitting of words will not be musically good.
Just wanted to point out a small mistake in your amalanadhipiran singing.
You sang, அரங்கது அரவினை ஆனையான். It's actually arangathu அரவின் அனையாண். Please go through the text once.
Will check. thank you
Your "DESA-MUTH-THOOMARI" pales into insignificance - when I was terribly miffed to hear in a professional cassette recording "BAADHAGAM ELLAM AGALADHAA" as "BAADHAGA-MALAM-AGALADHAA" (in the song "SODHANAI SUMAI in ragam KAAPI) by a leading lady vocalist- in the mid 1990s- not once - twice - but everytime - how does such blunders escape the attention of all concerned is baffling! :-(
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😂😂😂
One More song where. The split wrongly gives a meaning
RANA VARA MUHANAE
A famous criticism of KJY by Subbudu - he is signing Thaye yashodha undha Nayar kula ..." Pardon the caste reference.
😊 Dangerous split that one!