HOW-TO Racerstar F405 Wing Nano setup and flights (ArduPlane)
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Here is my next video in the HOW-TO series, dealing with the new Racerstar F405 Wing Nano flight controller! It is a pretty little jewel, with WORKING bluetooth connectivity, which was a first for me, pretty compact size and decently light weight, and pretty much almost all of the functionality of the full sized F405 Wing. Only drawback I've been able to find here has been the filtering on the video power, which is not ideal as I've been able to see some interference from the motor on the DVR recordings, although it wasn't noticeable on the screen during the flight. I would hope they can address that without a major redesign, although it probably isn't an issue for this to be filtered additionally even now, certainly will give it a try soon! Otherwise, absolutely happy with the Nano, flashed with ArduPlane, it works just as well as my larger planes, but in a much more compact package, able to be installed in smaller planes!
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This is what rc flying is all about - the feeling of freedom! Love your videos, you inspired me to switch from multi-rotors to fixed wing, I have not looked back. Just waiting for the warmer weather so i can get out with my Volantex Ranger 2000, it's fitted with a Matek F765 running Arduplane. R9M radio gear (R9 slim), duel BN880 gps, Runcam split 4 with a AKK FX2 Dominator vtx, along with a Myfly Dream Telefly Tiny tracker module. All powered from home made LiOn packs - 4S 2P 6500mah. Can't wait to get back out there so I can do some great line of sight flying.😉😁😁
Thanks mate, appreciate it! Like to know my work has a positive impact! Also... pretty serious gear on that Ranger, well done! Sounds like a sweet setup! :)
I find it best to take everything in. Wait a few days, then watch video again to absorb all the details. Thank you!
Yeah, sounds about right! Thank you! :)
Finally able to maiden fly my Drift / F405 Nano / Ardupilot setup in some reasonable weather. Worked fine straight away and was able to fly a fairly complex mission beautifully. I got a lot of help from watching your videos Nikola, so many thanks 🙏 This combination makes a great plane to take anywhere. Should of course say big thanks to all the people behind Ardupilot and Mission Planner for giving us this fantastic open source software.
Thank you, I appreciate it! Also very glad you got it working and flying well! Nicely done! And indeed, ArduPilot as a whole is a great project!
thank you for your detailed Arduplane videos. Really appreciate all the guidance you provide.
Glad it is helpful! :)
Thank you very much for the detail in your setup! I enjoy your videos very much! Glad you will be posting your ending PID's when you get tuning done. I have a couple of drifts and have been wanting to put arduplane on them but hadn't decided which board to put in until now. Same with my Dart's. I don't have a lot of experience with Arduplane so, again, I appreciate your detailed explanations!
Thanks mate, appreciate it! I hope all of this would be useful to you! The parameters file is linked in the video description, but you can also see the PIDs from the screen grab I shared, of them!
Thanks for the review! Got one coming now. I've been a bit hesitant due to multiple reports of it burning on first power up, but hopefully on 4s there won't be such problem.
Yes, I also heard a few cases of it burning up when plugging in 6S... I haven't experienced that on 2S, and hoping it will be OK on 4S!
Thought it was only Lee/Painless360... but both customer reviews on RaceDayQuads also talk about multiple failures. :(
Great video. I like how you show all of your challenges instead of making it look like everything goes smoothly. Video issues can be so frustrating! The F-405 and F-765 have been my favorite FCs and this looks like a great option for small and light builds.
I bet that Drift doesn’t cruise very fast. Yesterday I went out on a long range excursion with a tailwind (I knew better) and almost didn’t make it back due to the headwind. It wouldn’t take much of a headwind to doom that little Drift!
Well... challenges are what makes things interesting and push things forward! :) As for the Drift... it can manage 50-60km/h with an above average throttle, which is OK! By estimation... in no wind conditions it can do 17-18kms out and back on the battery I have in it now, which is pretty OK for it! I've also had my fair share of downwind/headwind situations... including one from a few days ago! It is astonishing how I've lost the ability to get worried about these things anymore! :D :D :D :D :D
Thank you, Nikola for this video. It helped me a lot in setting up my Lidl Devil with the Racerstar.
You are welcome mate! I am glad it was useful!
I really like the Drift a lot. I have a Matek 411 WSE running iNav in mine. I only fly 3S Lipos. Now you have me considering getting a second one to learn Ardupilot.
Not a bad plan! Just keep in mind the F411 does not support ArduPilot!
It helps to every mp gcs user, best
Thanks, I am glad!
Great review. Everything about this board has been a challenge (at least compared to the Matek 411 WSE). Bluetooth is awesome (that part was pretty straight forward. The board is super picky about how things are soldered. Are my solder skills the best, no, but they are good enough to solder on 16x16 stacks already install on a 4 inch quad or an AIO board on whoop. Your solder joints can be clean and smooth, pass a continuity test and still cause problems like the barometer stopping to work not not being able to flash the FC. Smart audio seems to be a problem as well. I can see how someone could short this board out if they weren't careful. I think maybe they tried to do too much with this board or maybe went too fast. Seems like there are a lot of people out there (some of the main influencers in the RC space that have had problems with this board). Such a shame, because when it came to all of the accessories that came with this board they really didn't skimp. Capacitor, XT 60 and XT30 connectors pre soldered with silicone wires, plenty of pens, servo wires, etc. Compare that with what you get with the Matek 411 WSE (which you only get the m2 screws to hold the board together). They didn't even take the time to make a good set of instructions or take high quality photos of the pins or how to connect multiple different types of receivers. That should have been an easy thing for them to. Hands down Matek wins out on the documentation side. Glad you had pretty good luck with it.
Right... well yeah, I guess a shoddy soldering job could be part of the cause of smoking boards around the webs, but seriously... I've yet to see a single issue with it, so I guess I was lucky in soldering it up!
Please review the Dart 250G. Would really like to hear your opinion on it.
Well... not sure if and when... but from what I hear and see... it is pretty good!
@@ArxangelRC it’s the holy grail for “reasonably easy achievable” 250g all up weight autonomous 2S LiOn long range build
@@JulianGoesPro Nice! :)
@@JulianGoesPro With a 3500mah li ion i get about 50mins of flight time but it weights in at 320g so no 250g for long range
Do you have special permission to run these beyond visual line of sight flights? I don’t think this would be legal in the UK, but it’s very impressive what you are doing.
Bad hobby to go legal
Thanks! Well good thing I am not in the UK then! :) And yeah... the Drift has seriously impressed me, despite its weight and size!
Mike it's not illegal if u don't tell anyone. Just don't hit someone and u are alright.
@@alexfeatherstone6676 Hahahahahahaha... yeah!
in germany we like to say (translated as it is): where there is no plaintiff there is no judge
please, can you post the battery monitor parameters to set up correctly the amp meter an voltimeter? with the stock setup, the amp meter counts wrong
Actually I have not done any changes to mine, and at this time can't recall if it counts right, but mine are the default at this time so can't really help much right now... :(
Ohhhh man,
I am determined to get into long range fpv.
But all of these components are a complete mystery to me. And I really don't want to hurt anybody or destroy my model. My Reptile Dragon v2 should be delivered this week. I've been using spektrum transmitter and receivers. I want to do this correctly. Do you have a beginner set up and electronics vid ? I don't want the cheapest equipment however budget is definitely a factor. I love your channel and I really appreciate all the help.
Hi, I do not have a video like this, but I can tell you for sure that spektrum gear is not going to do if you want longer range! At the very least you will need some long range system which can plug into it, but use its own receivers!
I kinda figured spektrum wasn't gonna work, because no one doing this is using it.
I'll go through your setup and gear post and see what I need. Where possible I will use your links provided. I ordered the kit version so it's just bare bones. I have no fpv or long range gear at all.
@@michaelwhinnery164 Right, well I hope you will find what you need in the descriptions and posts! Good luck! :)
We have a complete arduplane setup and tuning guide on our website. Link in description of our videos.
Hi ArxangelRC. What do you think about EZ-Wifibroadcast or OpenHD as an alternative for digital FPV? It could be a good subject for a video. (sorry for off-topic comment)
Actually... hopefully, I may get the chance to test an OpenHD based system soon, so will know more, but from what I've seen from other people using the OpenHD system, it is doing pretty good, seen distances up to 20kms!
Hi Nikola, great vids as usual! would you know, hot to put a decimal place to the vspeed m/s value in the arduplane OSD? In Inav I think it is standard and I'm used to it, now I have changed over to Arduplane. There must be a way of doing this, but after hours of searching I still have not found it... So I thought I ask an expert :) Thank you in advance!
Hey, sorry I am seeing this now, but we talked it over in PM, but for those going through the comments: no, I don't know how to get that to show up... at least not at this time! :)
Thank you 👍👍
You are welcome! :)
Where did your CG end up? I’m having issues with the stock location.
Well... I am at the stock location... I think!! What issues do you have?
Another very informative video.
What mAh 2s battery you using? Curious for reference to flight performance in the video. Thanks.
Sony VTC6 cells, so its 2S 3000mAh pack.
Great video, some nice footage, but as you know i just dont bother trying to work with flight controllers lol
Haha, thanks, I know! :P
Hoyeh. Waiting for mine
Cool! :)
I wish this flight controller had existed when I built my Drift as my first Arduplane setup - I used the Omnibus Nano v6.1 which works flawlessly, but the Bluetooth & off-board USB of the Racerstar would have been convenient. I had the same issue with the default PIDs, so I quickly switched into manual to land & followed the Ardupilot wiki to cut the gains in half before launching again to run an autotune, which then went fine.
How is your CG? I had to add extra tail weight on mine, even though I don't have a Split camera or VTX at the front like you do? I'm using a home made 2S 18650 which is actually slightly lighter than the Zohd one. I don't understand how the plane would ever balance with the Zohd pack, a Split & a VTX in the front without adding quite a lot of weight to the tail & going way beyond the recommended maximum weight. Are you simply using a lighter LiPo battery rather than 18650?
Actually I am using a 2S 18650 pack as well, and I have 10 grams of lead weights on the tail... and I'd say things are about as balanced as they can be, assuing the CG is a few mm forward of the markings, like many people suggest! Don't have the Split at the front right now, due to the cable issue, so nose is lighter, but am hoping to be able to put it back in when I get a new cable! Also, have been considering ways to move that antenna and possible the Vtx as well to be back somewhere, in the motor area... just so I can remove the weights from the tail... but haven't figured it out yet! :)
Hi, was there a reason you didn't connect s-port? I've connected my receiver s-port to tx2 and set Serial2 to 10. But no luck.
Yes, there is a reason, I don't use telemetry on these long range builds, so have never had to deal with setting it up and making it work! In my eyes telemetry only limits the range of the radio part of the system!
@@ArxangelRC thanks for your reply. I don't go super long range, but I may just leave it as well then. I never look at the transmitter when I'm flying anyway.
@@adamhodge3646 Yeah, that too! I have all of the info available on the OSD, and for the most part the video has a lot more range than the telemetry!
3:05 "Easy to lunch" :D Other than that, thank you very much!
You mean its not easy to launch?
I just got my Nano wing today and i got problems trying to flash firmware. I have followed your video and downloaded the right FW but when trying to flash it sound like the USB is disconnecting and i just get Failed to flash COM3 status. Does i need externap power on the FC?
Hm... well you shouldn't need external power... let me think for a second... I would assume the board is not getting into DFU mode? Can you hold the DFU button on the remote board with the USB port, as you are plugging it in the computer, see if that works.
@@ArxangelRC i solved it by reconfigure the USB port
@@Krolleg OK, cool! Well done!
hi ,please config dji air unit
I do not have one!
Just the ticket, thanks
You are welcome! :)
Awesome video... I am waiting for mine now..Did you try 6s battery? I saw some people burned it while pluging 6s battery.
Hm... have not tried 6S battery, because I've had no reason to at this time! Also... don't have any 6S batteries with an XT30 plug... and now that you're telling me this... not sure I want to try it! :D Who burned it plugging 6S? Not sure how that can be an issue... if it has the same components as the big one...
@@ArxangelRC there is a video on TH-cam that the guy tryed it on three FCs and all of them burned on 6s...let me find the video and Will send yoy msn
@@georgezoup Damn!!!! 3 units burned?! Makes no sense... but... who really knows... guess I won't be trying 6S on this small thing! perhaps 4S, should I decide to at some point move it to another plane. That is unless I get another unit, and this one stays in the Drift! :)
I think when payday comes I may get one of these and stick it in the zohd250g dart I've got, I've had a 411-Wing in there with that other software you don't like on and it suffers pitch oscillations that I haven't been able to tune out and I'm annoyed with. Thanks for the tutorial, I have crossfire so do you know how to set that up in Ardupilot as that has rssi on a channel not a separate wire? Thanks.
As far as I know, CSRF, or whatever their protocol was, can work with the F7 processors, and it may be able to with F4... but I am not clear on the process, I don't have Crossfire, so I can't say! I know the Crossfire can use SBUS... so that should work, and you can set the RSSI for a channel PWM based RSSI!
ArxangelRC oh crossfire is no different to sbus, fbus etc. it just uses a spare UART in the same way sbus and sport do, actually thinking about it I think the nano receiver does have an rssi out pin on. You should reach out to tbs, whenever "long range" comes up in their streams, you are always the first person people mention and trappy is like "oh yeah, but he uses Frsky, shame" and usually makes a joke that he'd really like it if you were using crossfire.
@@jibbajabba4597 Hahahaha, I actually have talked to him, he said they are waiting to do some announcement of some new product and he will contact me about sending me something to test... but hasn't done so yet... guess it may have something to do with the issues I hear they've been having with some of their systems recently!
What do you think about new Matek F405-MiniTE? I am new to hobby and curious if it is versatile for both quadcopter and fixed wing setups?
I honestly have no opinion on it! The Wing series is pretty much all I am interested in due to convenience... hence haven't really paid attention to the smaller models as they would require a good deal more work and components to make them OK for planes!
@@ArxangelRC It has 2-6S input, 1MB flash, supports 8motors + 3 servo, Dual BEC (10V/5V), 6UARTS, DJI and analog VTX, works with ArduPilot, INAV, BetaFlight etc.
@@brezovprut4431 OK, sure! Sounds good! But it is a copter FC for the most part, and it will be more tedious to make it work on a plane, and you would need some external things to do it!
@@ArxangelRC what is externally needed like? anything more than CRSF to PWM converters??
@@brezovprut4431 I think this board does have regular outputs... so I would assume no converter would be needed there, but then you still have to provide power for the servos somehow and also some power module, external, that would give you battery info! And all of that would be pretty much DIY wiring work to get it all connected and setup! Bit of a hassle in my book!
love the video .. just a question .. what are you using for bi telementry here when you fly long range? is it possible to have a long range telemetri radio ?
Yes, you can use a telemetry radio, although in this case I am using the DragonLink system, which has a telemetry channel capable of carrying the mavlink data!
@@ArxangelRC nice .. where did u conekt tx/rx for the mavlink data ? Im thinking in simulare ways but with expresslrs
@@Zollt76 Tx/Rx 4 if I am not mistaken, where the 2nd GPS unit should connect, and changed its assignment in the Full Param List to Mavlink2
Yes. Look for SIK radios.
The 6wire ones work better than the 4 wire. Try to get the 500mw or more. 433 mhz works great.
And RFD 900 from Australia works great too.
can you do a short video on setting up with bluetooth and phone
Nothing to it, just go to bluetooth settings, search for new devices and click on it, I don't think it even asks for a pin on the phone, if it does enter 1234, and you're done! After that in QGroundControl on Android, just go to settings and setup the connection by choosing a bluetooth device from the options, and its good to go! :)
@@ArxangelRC been using it for a while is there a way to disable bluetooth
@@Mrfunkyfpv Not sure actually... you can always remove the top deck... won't be an issue, especially if you are not using the SD card slot!
@@ArxangelRC ok never thought of that
@@Mrfunkyfpv :)
How I connect r9mini with s.port and have telemetry, if it is possible in TX2 pad, in inav you can with softserial but no idea how to in ardupilot
Have no idea about that an ArduPlane... sorry! :(
My Drift has the R9 MM (which has a 'inverted s.port' pad) connected to serial 1 TX of the Omnibus Nano v6.1 with Arduplane, using SERIAL1_OPTIONS = 4 & SERIAL1_PROTOCOL = 10. For the R9 Mini which only has 'regular' s.port you might be able to make it work by additionally setting the InvertTX option in the relevant SERIALx_OPTIONS bitmask.
@@CJDavies Right... well I hope that helps Andres! Thanks for the input.
@@CJDavies thank you very much by answer, yeah, you have exactly the setup I had planned, but my r9mm is faulty. i guess I should use like you said, inverted and will work on H7/F7 but i don't think so in f405-wing target. I think is the option half duplex but I dont know if will be available for f405, I will know it soon
Hate it when electronics turn out faulty! :(
what phone app do you use for ardupilot? great vid
Thanks! Well... the only one actually available... as far as I was able to see - QGroundControl.
Hii can u check the coutuniti on + and - on main .. my fc look like it short
Most certainly those two should not be shorted! Guess that might be the reason why some of these go up in smoke... can you trace where the short is coming from? Should be some of the regulators...
@@ArxangelRC i try
th-cam.com/video/L7hA-kDx5Xc/w-d-xo.html
@@ansariflightplan5814 Let me know what you find out!
@@ArxangelRC my short test just now the short is come from 2nd deck not from lower deck.. if i put the 2nd deck it will shorting 1st deck, but all 5volt + not short circuit
how about 2S LiOn... when does the voltage get too low for it? Thanks!
6v is where you want to be landing! In addition the ESC would cut off the battery around that point! :)
@@ArxangelRC Had this issue with my dart, where the esc decided to cut the power to an unuseable level which end up me not being able to climb, almost lost the plane. It's worthwhile disabling the zohd esc cutoff altogether, set the battery type to NIMH...
@@FunBitesTV True... it is a bit annoying, but this one cuts off at 3v per cell, which is where I usually land, and I am not a fan of killing the batteries, because if I know I can go lower... I'd probably be tempted to try it... which is not good for them, so knowing this limit, at least I can try to adhere to it and bring back the plane in time! :D These ESCs are programmable, and I think the lowest setting is 2.8v per cell... could be reprogrammed to that... but in any case I do like to have a soft cut off around 3v... just a personal preference... :)
@@ArxangelRC preventing the esc from cutting of seams easy (found a few tutorials cutting traces and stuff to go super low) but for the FCs it's still not easy to find something that allows me to fly a 2S LiOn down to 2.5v each)
@@JulianGoesPro Well... during that 12 hour log file download I ran the battery down to 4.4v, at which point the controller was still ON and transmitting!!! Can't say much else was working though! :D
Can i use crossfire with arduplane?
Should be possible! Yes.
@@ArxangelRC as simple as in inav?
@@Chris-vc1dh Not sure about that... haven't used iNav much, and I don't have Crossfire, but as far as I've heard... not as simple as iNav!
@@ArxangelRC what TX do you use with arduplane?
@@Chris-vc1dh FrSky X9D and usually SBUS out of the receiver.
Hey, how did you fix FBWA oscillations from 11:30?
Started reducing Roll P and D values! Still have to move them down further though, haven't cleared the oscillation from all situations possible! It does occur at certain taimes!
@@ArxangelRC It is better if you just run an autotune. Rolling is completely normal for small planes with ArduPlane, because the parameters are designed for larger planes.
@@reinhardherden516 I might, but I haven't dealt with tuning in quite a while, wanted to play with it a bit! )
@@ArxangelRC This is simple ... Switch to autotune and give 20-30x full roll left and immediately full roll right. The same then with Elevator, pull 20-30x full height and immediately press full depth. All of course in sufficient height ... After that the drift flies top ... ;).
@@reinhardherden516 I know how autotune works! Hahaha, not what I meant! I haven't done manual tuning in a long time, and wanted to play around with it!
Hei Nikola. Try to use 'User Params' to configure various channels with various modes (like rtl, takeoff, etc, inverse flight). I use this with taranis when I don't have those 6 pos buttons. Come on with that flying dragon video! :))
Flying Dragon... was just thinking about it today! :) May show its face soon too! :P User Params? What is that? Where?
@@ArxangelRC create a channel on taranis from ch 6 to 14 and put it on the switch. on MP go to Config -> User Params and rc channel you set taranis. Configure it as you like it from the drop down menu (RTL, Takeoff, Arm/Disarm, etc). I personally use the arm/disarm and the RTL on this way since this feature was up. Cheers!
and try to clear at least GPS coordinates from the video as in Romania the authority started to make a database with this kind of posts. Be careful.
@@aeroninja Hmmmmm... thanks, will look into this as I am doing the final setup steps on my current build, could be interesting! As for the coordinates... they can go ahead and record... I am not in Romania anyway! :P Will see though... might just move them to a low corner and cut if off for the videos! :P
@@ArxangelRC I know you are not in RO. With those coordinates we know exactly where you are flying. I am in RO. We spoked last year, I was trying to reach you in Sofia for some parts regarding the Believer platform. And I think the EASA regulations are applied to BG also, so it was an advice as this could shutter your current way of life really bad. try to be covered at least with the minimum certificates as you can show them something if they will be after you. Anyway, fly safe! Vlad.
I wish Arduplane had a setup like iNav. iNav is so simple to setup and get going. Have never dared fly the planes that I started out with Arduplane. It looks nice and would like to get a plane going with it but mission planners stinks.
Well... I do agree that the iNav GUI is quite nice, but I don't trust the firmware nearly as much as I do ArduPlane! I've sent planes to that mountain top on their MAIDEN flight, running ArduPlane, because I know it so well!
@@ArxangelRC I maiden my planes with iNav and use launch mode. It all comes down to what we are used to. I have an old AR wing here that I should stick Arduplane in and give it a go. Its all setup and flying on iNav.
@@sams9716 Well I do have a few HOW-TO videos on setting up various controllers for ArduPlane, including a soon to be released one for the F765 Wing, so there is an option to go by when setting it up!! :)
@@ArxangelRC Will arduplane support smart port with an F405 Wing or do you need to have an F7 based FC?
@@sams9716 I really don't have any clue about that! Sorry... :(
Aaah I just special ordered 3 kakute f7 mini v2's because they were the smallest boards that ran ardupilot and they will probably be discontinued and then a week later I see this board.... not a totoal waste of money but still.. disappointing lol
Haha, well... don't worry... a good deal of people are actually having issues with these, burning up on first power up, etc., so may have dodged a bullet there! :)
@@ArxangelRC Oh! well that makes me feel better hahaha Have you ever tried the Kakute f7 mini V2 boards? The board is absolutely tiny with almost all the features of a dedicated 30x30 or larger flight controller
@@flighttherapybullisticfpv133 Nope, I have not!
...line of sight...goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood...
Yeah!
这个飞控板的贴片质量实在太差，我建议还是买matek
Well so far I am quite happy with it, though I did hear some people have had issues with it! Matek is good... but doesn't offer an alternative to this!
$50? Way too much money. It should be no more than $29.
P.S. Arduplane IS the best
@@JR-kk6ce ArduPlane IS the best indeed! As for the price... the size of the board itself is not really a prerequisite to costing less! Has pretty much the same components as the other one, and it is $46! This was cheaper a few days ago... not sure if it was on sale or something...
Prices currently 5-10% higher than typical. Think related to Chinese New Years .. says "on sale", which is true, but need to watch for best price dynamics.
@@AerialWaviator Yup!