You got lucky getting on Top Thrill Dragster as its future is unknown now, lol...i rode it in 2005 (front row) and I thought it was amazing! Just incredible speed and acceleration. But i was also able to ride Mantis and Mean Streak, lol, so even though they both sucked, it makes it more special when they go defunct.
If you think the Valravn policy was weird, I rode Backlot Stunt Coaster holding my dads backpack, because we asked to put it in the bins on the unload platform, and they said “those bins are for stuffed animals only”.
There's a tremendous change in audio quality when you start talking about Wicked Twister... totally understandable tho, having to chop in to the already edited video to add fresh news... makes the vid seem less outdated! Also seems like Steel Vengeance will never run the same as it did in 2018
Visited Cedar Point in the 3rd week in June on a Sunday and Monday. Sadly not only did the park close at 8:00pm but they were closed on Tuesday and Wednesday due to staffing. I opted for Fast Lane plus on Monday which turned out to be a good decision and ended riding everything. Steel Vengeance is # 1 for sure. My experience for the two day trip was solid. I was unhappy to hear about the Wicked twister closing and after the sad accident that occured with Top Thrill there may be a chance that ride may not open in 2022. Next year I am kicking the summer off at Kings Island, Cedar Point, and Canada's Wonderland.
Something I've noticed with Steel Vengeance is that as the day goes on, the midcourse seems to matter less and less when it comes to the pacing of the second half. In June this year, it honestly felt like the pacing was on par with 2018 even with a slight trim on the midcourse even at mid-day
I disagree with that since most of my rides on Steel Vengeance were either in the evening or at night, and the midcourse was still trimming really hard
The TSA system for Steel Vengeance is why I can't rank it higher than 7. It's an unbelievable ride, but the hassle just detracts from the experience. I have had my glasses pointed out, but I let the ops know I had a strap, so they let me through.
Got a ride on all but 4 major coasters yesterday. Millennium Force ruled but then I rode Rougarou and felt sick so I had to miss out on Raptor and Valravn. Anyways still had the time of my life.
I totally agree with the rules for storage being different for every ride. They spend millions on these rides and can't afford some simple boxes that might cost $100 to store hats, glasses, umbrellas, etc. while you ride? This is what makes Disney better. Just about every coaster has a storage space or there's a spot to store as you load. I know the rides are very different, but this is about guest experience, not about the ride. It just seems cheap and careless on their part.
I don't want to repeat the same comments so I'll say that the Millenium Force station music sounds like the WWE NXT theme song of Dexter Lumus. Good video homie
i just got back from my first real trip to cedar point yesterday (first trip got rained out before riding anything) and was expecting a pretty decent ride on rougarou but instead we got our ears smashed in. the head banging after the vertical loop following the drop was so bad i couldn’t even focus on anything else. needless to say i was a little disappointed lol. awesome layout visually though.
I went to Kings Dominion a few weeks ago and the loose article policy was just as bad there. Must be a Cedar Fair thing. Also, glad you mentioned the third hill on Magnum. I've been saying for years that's one of the highlights of the ride.
Great video, Chris, but saying 3 years without visiting Cedar Point is is long in coaster years isn't my "lived reality" and besides, it makes coaster enthusiasts look kinda spoiled, no? Besides that, I still LOVED this video! My 11 favourite coasters at Cedar Point are the following coasters in this order: Steel Vengeance, Millennium Force, Gatekeeper, TTD, Raptor, Maverick, Max XL 200, Rougarou, Valravn, Gemini and Wicked Twister, ALL in the back car (except Maverick which I prefer in the middle) I'm sure it's frustrating to be met with different policies within the same park; I hope Cedar Point will eventually get their policies to be cohesive. Great video, thanks for posting!
Well 3 years being long in coaster years just means your memory wanes, not necessarily like i was throwing a tantrum complaining that i NEED to get back there
@@AirtimeThrills fair enough. I've only been in May 2018 and got most of my coaster credits in Autumn 2019 but Cedar Point is still fresh for me; I might feel differently if I had hundreds more credits I'm sure. (I intend to get my 100th credit next week at Canada Wonderland)
I am lucky enough to have cedar point as my home park and I went once this summer. I had a great time but that’s only because the group I went with decided to get the fast pass plus or whatever they call it which was more than our ticket. Maverick was amazing, best ride I’ve ever had on it. Steel vengeance luckily was also the best ride experience I’ve had; There was no mid break stopping. Valraven has to be my least favorite coaster in the park. The line is usually a bit long and there aren’t any real stand out features besides the first drop. When coming into the station it stops so aggressively at a weird angle that makes me sick to my stomach - and I have a strong stomach. Overall my experience was good. Cant wait to return once I can scrap up enough money.
Growing up in the 70's, no one carried a bunch of unnecessary junk onto rides. You just kept wallets and combs in your pocket. And even today, you can still wear pants with deep pockets for cell phones. Keep all your other crap at home.
I went to cedar point in June, 2021. I rode magnum xl200 and it was rough af, I even rode in the magic seat. I don't understand why as everyone has told me it was smooth
It's my home park and even *I* can't keep up with the article policies because they change every day, or every shift! As much as I love SV, I will almost always skip it, wear a tiny fanny pack (suddenly now banned from the line lockers at SV) and do Maverick and Magnum instead.
I think if there is one positive thing from the sale of the $99 Gold pass, it's that the crowd levels seem to have forced Cedar Point into racing Gemini nearly all the time!
In my experience, I never felt like we were racing the other car unfortunately. Even going up the hill we weren't side by side. Not even close. So it kind of took the fun out of it. I watched it a lot when I wasn't on it also. Operations those days didn't seem to keep the trains close for some reason.
@@judiplaz Interesting, I’ve been riding it for just about as long as it’s been around and I could probably count on one hand the times when both tracks are in use and the ops don’t have them leaving the station at the same time. Usually that means blue has a significant lead on the lift due to the inside lane approaching it. Red usually passes on the first turn around followed by blue taking the lead on the second turn around. From there, physics really starts to take over and the heavier train can start to pull ahead for an easy victory, but more often than not, there are still hand smacking opportunities on the last turn around.
damn was there the same days you were :) We traveled from North Dakota. My daughter turned in to a junky this week. Shes hooked. 12 and wants everything you can throw at her.
I was there in 2021 and Gemini is NOT smooth 😆 I don't really mind the SteVe article policy, but it would be good if it was made clear that the lockers in the queue are free, or just make all the lockers free. I had one ride on Valravn (in the rain) and really liked it. I'd say it's my #4 in Cedar. Point.
I'm very annoyed they won't let you have small fanny packs in the SV queue. The lockers will obviously fit my gf's Coaster Crew fanny pack. We only keep our car keys, our credit cards, ID, and our phones in there.
I'm pretty sure that it was the half-capacity trains last year that had it running weak. It was clearly better this year, but I still think summer 2018 was at it's absolute best.
If you continue to violate Cedar Point rules, continue to do things that endanger other riders' safety, berate and badger employees with questions that have no answers, and complain about needing to pay to use lockers......you WILL continue to get the TSA treatment!
Even though it does seem like that - I fully understand the reasoning for it and wish the park was a bit more strict with loose articles on other rides. IMO you should get kicked out of the park if you try to take your phone out for a video - could really hurt someone
@@rparqer I’d say if you take it a step further and really crack down on line jumpers, you’d be eliminating the people that have the gall to knowingly break the rules before the can even get on the ride.
@@timk987 That's a good point too... but I think this mostly comes down to the other people in line alerting staff of the jumpers. I had two people line cut waiting for TTD and not a single person around me told the ride ops. I did, and they got kicked off the ride (not sure about the park or not tho)
As someone who worked at raptor this summer, the only reason we told one person per row to go to the bins was so there weren't so many people getting on the ride putting stuff away while everyone else was grabbing their stuff out of the bins, which led to faster and more efficient ops. Also thanks for finally putting Raptor over Banshee!
In regards to the pain on the Magic Seat, I'm quoting Hellraiser when I say 'pain and pleasure, indivisible as one.' As for Maverick, I don't have the same issues you talk about with the restraints.
Rode the "magic seat" early this year and folks waiting for the two rows in front of me weren't paying attention. The gate opened and closed and they didn't get through. It was the worst ride in the 32 years I've been riding Magnum - painfully bouncing over every hill only to get slammed in the back by the rest of the train as we hit the bottom. Horrible ride for me there. I'll take row 15 or 12 now every day. A great ride every time, and no thigh crushing on the home stretch.
I visited Cedar Point for the first time back in early June. Another thing to add for Steel Vengeance is that if you wear glasses, it’s required that they’re held on with a strap, or you have to put them in a locker.
Knott’s Berry Farm has this policy on their coasters, and were super strict about it on my last visit. I’m super blind so I have to admit that once I left the station I just put them back on. I’ve been wearing glasses for 20 years and not once have they ever even come close to falling off on a coaster or any ride for that matter
I always recommend getting straps for eye glasses and have em for every ride you go on. You never know when the Coaster will try to steal em. I almost lost a pair on the Beast in the helix before I invested in them.
the thing that frustrated my wife and I when we visited this year was not articles policy but that Fast Lane was overpriced and underwhelming. Waiting 45 mins for elite rides is way better than 90+ minutes, but I think they should be selling fewer passes each day if they're charging so much. We actually ended up having more fun at King's Island this year because we got many more rides in on the elite coasters.
How about waiting 75 minutes in fast lane while the regular line is 45 minutes. That was my experience with fast lane, which is why I refused to buy it the 2nd day, and I got on the rides quicker. So many people had fast lane, that it's line was longer than the regular line in many cases.
I visited for the first time at the beginning of July. Amen on Magnum. I absolutely loved it and you can marathon it super easily. It was a station wait both days I went in July. I really enjoyed raptor, that helix at the end is sooooo forceful. Maverick and Steel Vengeance were my other favorites. I thought Millenium Force was just kinda meh.
I’m not gonna lie, I underestimated these Arrow coasters. They made a couple of good, smooth airtime machines. If only they focused on those more than their loopers.
Well unfortunately, the Corkscrew model was just too easy to keep manufacturing. Plus, they had to build Vortex for free for Kings Island after they screwed up on The Bat.
Though I live a ways away from Cedar Point, it will always be my honorary “home park.” Magnum was my first large coaster ever and after that, I was hooked. I try to get back when I can. But I agree Cedar Point needs uniform carry on policies.
Man CP is having so many issues this year between staffing issues, bad ops, a broken chain on Gatekeeper, and the Dragster accident. They really need to get it together
It seems to be a bad year for theme parks in general, every big one and even some minor ones have had problems. Part of it is because they're just not willing to meet job seekers where they are, and part of it is probably because parks differed maintenance during the pandemic and it's a gamble that turned out to be a bad idea.
I laughed way too hard at "going through the colonoscopy & root canal" to ride SV🤣🤣🤣 so true though, I'm just glad it's no longer an upcharge attraction thanks to the free lockers. I think if parks are going to force lockers, they should go the route of Hersheypark and make them free.
It’s still a $2 up charge if you go after a heavy rain and the free lockers get flooded. The funny thing is that CP pays a couple workers $20 an hour to squeegee water off the concrete pad only to watch it flow right back at them. What’s annoying is that I remember the fast lane queue flooding in years past, so they had to know this could/ would happen.
It's back to normal now basically minus the shitty hours. I don't think Mike Dewine is going to lockdown or mandate masks again, not with the legislature on his ass
Wow. First minutes of the video really make it clear what a mess their loose article policies are now. I’m all about keeping everything in zippered pockets and really hate it when I can’t travel simply like that. At least a place like Universal is really organized and efficient when they force you to empty your pockets. At the very least, I’m glad SV is no longer a de facto upcharge ride with the lockers.
Unfortunately the park basically forces folks to buy an all day locker for 7 out of 10 of the most popular rides. So when you visit, count on adding another $8 to your budget if you carry more then a phone, car keys, cards, and IDs
@@queerandpleasantdanger3103 I always carry very little to parks - just phone, keys, cards. But even then on my last visit to SFGAdv I got an all-day locker just to avoid the hassle of their ride policies.
Just got back from my 2 day visit there. Easily the most fun I've had in a long time. My favorites were easily Maverick, Steel Vengeance, Gatekeeper, and Millennium Force 😍 and SURPRISINGLY got a pretty decent ride on corkscrew with no headbanging haha
Those are my 4 favorites at the park as well. Corkscrew rode well for me too, no headbanging as long as I leaned my head forward, and it had some shocking airtime. I do remember Steamin Demon, the loop-corkscrew model at Great Escape, being very shaky with a lot of headbanging, but Cedar Point's rides much better.
I was there a couple weeks after you and everything was running. Millennium always runs well for me, and Magnum is still one of my favorite rides in the park. Maverick was kicking ass when I rode 3 times. And Steel Vengeance doesn't even need a description. They had gatekeeper going and I find it to be quite pleasant. Raptor was kicking serious ass
I ran into so many stupid policies on my first trip ever there this year It absolutely ruined every morning at the park for the first hour entry. I got on more rides at kings island for there 30 minute early entry than I did for an hour at cedar point. Cedar point not allowing fast lane for the first hour frustrated me. Kings Island allows you to use fast lane in early entry still so was expecting this at cedar point. Also staying on site hotel spending 600 for 2 nights and finding out I can't enter the valraven gate for early entry 5 minutes before it started (no sign postage anywhere) and an old grouchy Landy pulling the sign out 5 minutes before and yelling at us that we cant enter if we arnt staying in the marina or something. So we had to walk all the way back around and miss out on getting in line early for millennium force. Yeah I was pretty pissed the first hour of the day at cedar point. Shortly after tho the coasters made me forget.
That’s interesting. I didn’t know that about the Valravn gate. You’re right that is not posted anywhere other than it being known over the year as the marina entrance. I almost dropped my daughter and 3 of her friends there, but the elected to go around to the back to the Magnum gate and wait 5 minutes (10am) when they allow non hotel guest in that gate.
Your right about steel vengeance being a mess. I went during the summer with my friend and in the line there were lockers for free to put stuff in. Literally just a week after that, I went with my family and they made us put the stuff in the lockers outside the line that cost money? I don’t get it lol
Me & my family went (we were there the day of the dragster accident). Between the four of us we hit pretty much everything, my older daughter didn’t like magnum at all. We liked the usual (m. Force, steel vengeance, maverick, etc.). The two rides all four of us agreed on were gatekeeper and raptor (my younger daughter didn’t ride the bigger ones I mentioned).
I went at the end of July and only had a day and a half so I got the fast pass for my full day there. This was my first time here since 2014 so this was my first time getting to ride Rougarou (I rode Mantis previously), Valravn and Steel Vengeance. I got at least one ride on every coaster apart from the kiddie coasters. First off, Steel Vengeance is absolutely insane. I got 3 rides on this, including a night ride in the back row (this was my first ever ride on an RMC) . Even with all the hype and expectation going into it, this is still easily the best coaster I've ever been on. Maverick - amazing as always. I don't really mind the restraints though. Only got 1 ride in the morning because it was closed pretty much the whole time I was there. Millennium Force - I had previously loved this coaster and it was actually my 100th credit. The 2 rides I got on it this summer were just meh :/ Rougarou - People say this is the most underrated coaster in the park and I would heavily disagree. I rode in the front row and I swear I had a rougher ride on this than I did on Corkscrew. Don't know if it's just that way in the front, or if I just got a rarely bad ride, but based on that ride I have no desire to ever ride it again. Iron Dragon - This was more fun than I remembered it being, but I agree that it isn't forceful at all. Valravn - This is easily the most overrated coaster in the park. The drops were meh, the inversions forceless and pointless, the "airtime" had no airtime. I don't really understand how this ride always has a 90 minute wait with all the other amazing rides in this park (Magnum always is a walk on wtf). Granted, I feel like if this ride was at a smaller park this would probably stand out a bit more. Raptor - Absolutely awesome ride, got a back row ride with no trims. Those last corkscrews and helix are so intense. I don't remember if I rode this in 2014 or not (I'm guessing not) Blue Steak - Okay as always. CP desperately needs a better woodie. Gatekeeper - This was fun, but not as good as I remembered it being in 2014, plus it also seems to have a pretty noticeable rattle now. Wicked Twister - Great in the back and was nice to get another ride before it closes but yea, I'm not too sad to see it go. Another park would appreciate it much more. Corkscrew - Boring and rough but still not as rough as Rougarou. Top Thrill - This was one of the main reasons I went to CP in the past, and it was a bit underwhelming. The launch is fantastic, but the drop doesn't really do much for me; especially after waiting for 30-60min (with FLP). This also shut down 4 times right before I was about to hop in line (I guess it beats being in line) Magnum - Such a good ride and is by far the most underrated coaster in the park. I have no idea how this only ever gets a 10 minute wait. Gemini - This ride always surprises me with how great the airtime on those drops are. I will be sad to see it go, but yea it likely will be gone soonish. Cedar Creek Mine Ride - Tear this down, this ride sucks. PLEASE PUT A GCI HERE
It sounds like you had FLP the same day I did, since you mentioned Maverick going down after the morning. It stayed down until late Thursday. My wait for Dragster was literally 75 minutes with FLP, while people in the regular line had waited less than 45 minutes.
@@rparqer I was there those days. I had FLP on the 27th, and Maverick went down late morning. I didn't realize it operated the first hour on the 28th. I went to shows and rode less popular rides that day, since that day was busier than I've seen it on Saturdays.
I just went for the first time a week ago, and my thoughts were practically identical to yours (Millennium Force was slow though). My favorite ended up being Magnum.
Chris, I wasn't going to say this but I got mad. I visited Cedar Point and Kings Island three weeks ago. I spent three days at each park and observed standby lines crowding. At Cedar Point this year the only people that could come intro the park at the Magnum entrance were hotel guests and campground guests for early ride time. That meant that by the time I got to the back of the park (Entered at the front gate) to ride the best rides the lines were unreal and I have a Platinum Pass. One day I finished riding Millennium Force and Maverick and walked to Steel Vengeance. The ride was still testing but the lines were out of this world. The troubling part of this was the Fastlane + line was as long as the standby line. I observed the same problem at King's Island. How many Fastlane passes are these parks selling in a day? My answer is too many. I'm just not going to pay and extra $85 to $125 per day to ride. Another day visit to Millennium Force I noticed that Fastlane purchasers were riding and re-riding so often it was really slowing down the standby lanes. I know the parks need to make money but the Fastlane system is making line waits longer and longer in the regular line.
This is exactly why Fast Lane *Passes* don't work, and should be replaced with Fast Lane *TICKETS* in which you only get to jump the line to ride *once* . As for the Magnum entrance, the park is in the business of making money, and if you help them by spending your money at Breakers and the campgrounds you should get perks associated with it.
Blue Streak is my favorite coaster at Cedar Point. Iron Dragon is lame and The Bat is soo much better. Operations have DEFINITELY slipped here. And Top Thrill Dumpster is an absolute waste of time. That ride is a dog and is soo overrated. People with carry on items definitely slow down lines for everyone else. Leaving all that unnecessary shit in your car. Why do you need to take fucking Tar-zhay to sn amusement park is beyond me. Fast Lane operations here are not efficient as they are at Kings Island
Honestly happy you called out Cedar Point’s on ride items policies here. Had my first ever trip a month ago and had an incredible time discovering my new favorite coasters, but the multiple policies were weird and the strictness on Steel Vengeance was a little annoying, like props to the team members for doing their jobs thoroughly, but I couldn’t even have my tiny hand sanitizer in my tight shorts that wasn’t gonna go anywhere. Thankfully the ride experience was top tier and still immediately became my favorite coaster, but eventually Millie took the top spot, SteVe’s seriousness was only a minor contributor to that. Maverick had my favorite policy with the buckets and how organized they were with them.
I went to cedar point on August first and it was awesome. I rode SteVe five times that day, (including one night ride), Maverick twice (with my favorite night ride ever and I have the Beast at my home park), GateKeplar twice, Top Thrill Dragster twice, Valravn twice (first dive coaster for me), Millennium Force twice, and Raptor once. Having Banshee as my home park made me dislike Raptor because of the headbanging, I can deal with the pelvis crusher that is Banshee but the headbanging gave me a headache. Also, that launch on Top Thrill is crazy, you feel all of that 120 mph. Millenium force was my first giga (with me getting on Orion a week later, I prefer Orion). Also, I couldnt find how to get to Magnum or Gemini so I didnt get to ride those. All in all, great experience plus first time ever to Cedar Point. (Plus SteVe was my 25th coaster) Please fix Maverick’s restraints CP.
I must say it's very interesting how much flip-flopping you seem to have with your opinion on coasters! Sure I can have bad rides on some of my favorites (2012 voyage roughness, the rough trains on banshee) But I've never had anything totally change my love for them... yet :p
They should be getting rid of bins on all of their major rides at this point. They slow operations by an insane amount. I am sure at some point in the future all rides at all parks will have a strict no phone policy like SteVe.
During my last trip to KI at the beginning of August I finally got a front seat ride on Banshee and it was AMAZING! Way better than the back row. I could finally feel the forces of the ride up there and nothing beats a night ride where you can feel the difference in air temperature when it dips down close to the ground and the fog starts rolling in. Perfection. My friend and I were even able to marathon it at the end of the night since by then it was a walk-on. A great experience.
In what universe is Top Thrill Dragster underrated? The speed is incredible and you feel like you're out of your seat the whole time when you go over the top of the tower
I’m sorry, but I don’t believe you. There is no way anyone can do that. I didn’t feel any pain from the restraints. No thighcrush pain. I’ve ridden it in row 3. However, the ride is bumpy. Even in a non wheel seat. You don’t have any proof that you marathoned Magnum xl 200 for hours.
As a local, after this season I am pretty fed up with this place. The workers seem rude, the policies are confusing and rarely enforced, and not one of my experiences has been fun. The coasters are excellent as usual, but... yeah. Now this brings me to the disaster that is the Gold Pass. Not only has this overcrowded the park, it just sucks to be a local who has bought platinum so many years. We only bought it because we were gonna go to Knott's in 2020 but then Covid happened. Still, we had the early entry perks and other perks. Until they were removed. I agree with you that Kings Island is the better park overall. Sorry if I may sound like a Karen, but it's just true. Cedar Point, do better.
Perfect upload timing, I'm heading there this weekend for the first time in 4 years. Excited to finally ride SV but those loose article policies sound confusing.
Interesting! Sounds like I need another trip out there soon. Haven’t been since 2019. My opinions on the coasters might change. As always great video Chris!
In 2019 I thought raptor was overrated and not that forceful. But in 2021 I got a back row trims off ride that was tearing through its layout. I definitely understand the hype with the ride
Did you go on opening day? That was when I went but I didn’t ride many coasters. I agree that SV is a mess with loose articles though, I went last week and the first ride I could put my waist pack in the small locker, but the next day I had to pay for a larger locker. And all that to get absolutely stapled by ride ops. Weird. And IDK how tall you are, but Rougarou is free whiplash and a nasty headache if you’re short like me. I rode it once and NEVER again. (And my record for number of rides at once on Magnum was 14 rides in a row, all walk-ons in late afternoon. My thighs were dead by the end of that.)
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I was there for four full days of coasters. I agree with you on most parts, especially the spotty loose articles policies. The only things I disagree were with the ride experiences on Rougarou and Valravn. I rode Valravn twice and had good experiences both times and rode Rougarou once and it was only a mild improvement over Mantis. I absolutely loved MF, SV, and Magnum. I even got the 7th row on the black train which was amazing.
I've only managed to get one visit in this year. Dragster was closed due to The Incident, I didn't ride SteVe or Millennium due to crowds, and I almost alwasy skip Maverick anyway due to even more severe problems with the restraints. It was rainy when I went, too, but that didn't seem to keep the crowds away, and it also wreaked havoc on operations all morning, resulting in a 30-minute wait for Magnum turning into an hour or two due to a closure that greatly outlasted the rain itself. Still, I had a good time. Got good rides in on Gatekeeper, Wicked Twister, Magnum, and Gemini, along with a couple rides with family & friends on WindSeeker, Cedar Downs, the new boat ride, and the train. Biggest takeaway: Gemini is _severely_ underrated. It's incredibly smooth for an Arrow of any age, let alone one that opened in 1979, and it gives good airtime throughout. I had forgotten how fun it is with two full trains, too, with the excitement of competition and the high fives on the turns, and getting a ride in right as the park closed (a little early for my taste, tbh) was even better. Also, shout-out to the crew, who was hauling ass all night _and_ hyping up both trains like crazy at the same time.
I was in Park Services at Cedar Point this summer. I had an awesome ride in Row 6 on Raptor and a rough one in row 4, a dude ride on Iron Dragon and another where the second half slapped, either I’ve only had good rides on Millie or just like the speed, I’ve only ridden Valravn in the middle (once in 2016 and twice over the summer) and the last time I rode all the B&M’s-it was the only one that was smooth: I had a smooth as glass evening ride on Rou and a row six stuck next to a dad with head banging, I had 3 awesome night rides as my first rides on Gatekeeper during an associate night (and I still waited longer for my sole back row ride on Wicked Twister. Front row twice and all rides only this season)-then a painful back row right wing during normal hours.
Each of my rides on Wicked Twister was better than the last (my last one was a rainy National Roller Coaster Day and you could hear the screech as the train stalled out before plunging backwards at high speed). I could watch the break system for hours if I had nothing better to do and I don’t know why. El Toro Ryan should do a Problematic Roller Coasters on the Intimin Impulse.
For Steel Vengeance, like Gatekeeper, my first rides were at an associate ride night-but were only in front half due to high demand and a noble sacrifice deciding to ride with a girl who looks like Margot Robbie’s Harley Quinn. My row 10 morning ride was more forceful and maybe a little much for me (when the queue actually opened to getting off was 45mins-got off just after 11, but had been like 2hrs since I had breakfast and I felt like I was going to throw up). Can’t knock the forces, I see why it is and deserves to be a god tier coaster, it’s just a front row ride for me I guess).
I have a video from the 16th releasing on September 16th and somehow my ride in the back car of the blue train was smooth, might have been the rain, might be because I was leaning into the corkscrews, might be train IDK. I was hoping an evening ride on Cedar Creek would be more forceful than a morning ride, but it’s a dude. I think I got Whiplash on my first night ride in the magic seat and my last ride on Magnum was actually not bad in terms of jackhammering into the final hills. I also got a row 13 ride on 8/16 (which was a Magnum/Gemini ride night)
So I went to Cedar Point for the first tine in 2021 and I definitely had a different experience than you. Let's start with the things we seem to think the same on. Raptor. The ride is absolutely INSANE. I loved how smooth it was and how graceful but forceful it can get. It was epic though Banshee does outrank it. Valravn. So those restraints REALLY hurt... I actually struggled to breath while on it which made it impossible to figure out how to feel. I was glad when it was over... Maverick. I appreciate it quite a bit since it reminds me of i305 just... smaller and has more for it. I say that and yet i305 is actually the young one here. :P Go figure. Yeah the restraints hurt anything it has going for it but I still like it. Magnum. Ok so I obviously picked the wrong seat for my 1 ride. I'll give it another go next time in the back. Magic seat is a little overrated. Millennium Force. YAY you still love it as do I! She's aged quite well and her speed was absolutely shocking! She got my most rides in my 2 days tied with one more... Steel Vengeance. Ok so my strat with loose stuff is leave them with a non rider (my mom) so I actually got a chuckle from the ops noticing my lack of pockets. Anyways, I didn't mind the situation since it didn't affect me. The ride? OH BOY it was a rush! Nirvana! You say the back row is everything, You're RIGHT! Dang I had hope Fury would stay at #1... XD Ah but Steel Vengeance deserves the top for giving me an absolute trip! Truly worth it. :) Oh and the other rides? Line was too long on all of them to get them. I did ride TTD twice though. SUPER rush! Oh and the 2nd time it broke down but the radio played CENTURIES so... that helped. XD
one thing that surprised me was that you didn’t ride corkscrew because it was uncomfortable😮 when i went in 2023, it was surprisingly smooth (being an arrow😅)
I literally just got to my hotel after two full days of CP and this was my first suggested video. Perfect timing! I agree with almost everything. Raptor back row trimless is intense and whippy in all the good ways. That final helix is like the graviton ride but just on your calves. I finally got good magnum magic seat rides! I just lapped it 4 times that ejector is so strong it almost hurts your thighs. My 6 Millie rides (almost all station waits!) were as amazing as always but now I can’t decide if Magnum is better or not? Valravn is just ok. It’d be better at a different park maybe cause I love the other dive coasters more. Wicked twister definitely best in back. Sad to see it go, but I look forward to something new and amazing hopefully. Rougarou and Iron Dragon are just meh. Blue streak and Gemini are underrated. Gatekeeper is a blast. TTD is down for the season. 6 rides on Maverick, 8 rides on SteVe. Can’t decide which is best? Both top 10 rides for me for sure though.
I would’ve gotten a back row trimless ride on Raptor if the ops didn’t deny my request for the back row even though there was nobody waiting for it. I got assigned to row 2 on that ride, and it was lame. At least I got a front row trimless ride in the evening
Me and a buddy went to Cedar Point back in June of 2021 and it was a trip that was long planned in the making and originally we planned to go to Kings Island then Cedar Point on the trip (both parks for 2 days with a day in between to rest) and once we heard about the changes in the schedule and closings we had to rework our trip so we swapped dates with both parks and still had a blast. We had a problem with originally the hotel visit caused they said “I cancelled the room” (to which I didn’t) and they hooked me with with the rate to stay at Lighthouse point instead of Cedar Point express. Worth it I do need to revisit hotel breakers but still amazing to walk out the door and see Magnum’s turnaround Also I had not been to CP since 2000 so lots of new credits and 2 I needed to do since I wasn’t able to ride because of my height at that time compared to now changed (I was 5 when I last went lmao) As far as the visit went, it was amazing but the downside was so many breakdowns (especially the infamous Intamins) The Gatekeeper thing was funny because me and my buddy that came onto CP’s property (June 12th) we found out was the day when the chain snapped (which was impeccable timing ngl) Steel Vengeance was absolutely amazing and it made me excited more and more for Iron Gwazi for the hype again. Millie, Magnum and Gemini revisited childhood Maverick was great but the restraints sucked (pad or no pad those over the shoulders are abysmal) Glad I did Wicked Twister (ever since the announcement) Raptor was amazing and a show stealer (as too was Valrayvn with being my first experience with the vest restraints) Blue Streak was nice (but they do need a modern wooden coaster) Rougaru wasn’t that bad at all Top thrill was short but sweet and amazing (and did scare the crap outta me for being my first time to experience that one lmao) The others? Meh I have a vlog of it over there that discussed more about it Finally as far as the policy went we didn’t have any issues nothing that was shown in the video here. Everything was smooth and straightforward. No issues i don’t think. So that may have been a one time thing 🤷♂️ Still I love reading others input about visits like that so thanks Airtime Thrills
Man! Love your channel! Thanks because with top thrill dragster being closed for 2022, and that being the singular best coaster I've ridden in the 6 parks I've been to... my son and I will look for a few closer alternative parks like holiday world. 👍
i dont know if you were a member or a gold season pass holder for six flags chris...but did you see what there doing for 2022....there promoting this "big" sale to current passholders for 2022...but they got rid of the gold season pass....if you buy a season pass for 2022 its only good at your home park...if you wanna visit all the six flags parks there forcing you too buy a membership....absolute BS in my opinion....ive been a gold season pass holder for years along with my son...i live in NY ....which is a seasonal six flags region...now i have to pay extra money monthly with a membership to go to different six flags parks around the country when this usual sale had gold season passes around 55-60 bucks...cant wait for someone to come out with a pros and cons video of this new thing there trying
Literally just got back from a 2 day stay at cedar point, Steel Vengeance is my new number one over Toro, magnum was not very enjoyable at all in my opinion, the airtime hills just hurt, although that’s most likely due to both my rides being in the front car (one in the magic seat) and also blue streak is the most underrated ride at the park better than a bunch of their other coasters (Gemini, Magnum, Valravn)
"Go through the colonoscopy and root canal", your best line ever! 😄
Next season, they're gonna strip search your asses!!
My statement at SteVe was but they can’t do this in schools…. During the whole interrogation process prior to riding
That was a great experience for me in 2021, meeting you, getting on Steel Vengeance and especially Top Thrill Dragster the first time
Nice! :D
Dragster is amazing. Even though it's been closed on my last three visits to the park (I rode it once in 2014 and that's all I have)
You got lucky getting on Top Thrill Dragster as its future is unknown now, lol...i rode it in 2005 (front row) and I thought it was amazing! Just incredible speed and acceleration. But i was also able to ride Mantis and Mean Streak, lol, so even though they both sucked, it makes it more special when they go defunct.
@@floridamaddogg i got on top thrill dragster 9 times in the span of 2018, 2019, and 2021 lol
@@jakethecake6952 not to brag or anything but i've ridden dragster probably 30-40 times since 2017 (excluding 2020)
If you think the Valravn policy was weird, I rode Backlot Stunt Coaster holding my dads backpack, because we asked to put it in the bins on the unload platform, and they said “those bins are for stuffed animals only”.
Yet, on Flight of Fear, they let us go through the small hallway in the back of the station to put our stuff in the cubbies
Chris has done it, the pictures FINALLY aline in the intro at the end!
There's a tremendous change in audio quality when you start talking about Wicked Twister... totally understandable tho, having to chop in to the already edited video to add fresh news... makes the vid seem less outdated!
Also seems like Steel Vengeance will never run the same as it did in 2018
This is why i normally don't do that
Visited Cedar Point in the 3rd week in June on a Sunday and Monday. Sadly not only did the park close at 8:00pm but they were closed on Tuesday and Wednesday due to staffing. I opted for Fast Lane plus on Monday which turned out to be a good decision and ended riding everything. Steel Vengeance is # 1 for sure. My experience for the two day trip was solid. I was unhappy to hear about the Wicked twister closing and after the sad accident that occured with Top Thrill there may be a chance that ride may not open in 2022. Next year I am kicking the summer off at Kings Island, Cedar Point, and Canada's Wonderland.
Something I've noticed with Steel Vengeance is that as the day goes on, the midcourse seems to matter less and less when it comes to the pacing of the second half. In June this year, it honestly felt like the pacing was on par with 2018 even with a slight trim on the midcourse even at mid-day
I disagree with that since most of my rides on Steel Vengeance were either in the evening or at night, and the midcourse was still trimming really hard
The TSA system for Steel Vengeance is why I can't rank it higher than 7. It's an unbelievable ride, but the hassle just detracts from the experience. I have had my glasses pointed out, but I let the ops know I had a strap, so they let me through.
Going on Sunday so hyped can’t wai
I AGREE.
AFTER ALL THESE YEARS MAGNUM IS STILL A TOP 10 COASTER.
GREATLY UNDERATED.
A top 10 coaster in the park? Sure. In the world? Not even close
@@Joshwake HATER
@@ronscurti1269 nr I kinda agree
@@ronscurti1269 magnum is a solid ride. In my top 40 of over 200 coasters. But it is just simply not a top 10 coaster in the world.
Got a ride on all but 4 major coasters yesterday. Millennium Force ruled but then I rode Rougarou and felt sick so I had to miss out on Raptor and Valravn. Anyways still had the time of my life.
Blue Streak is a fantastic compromise if you've come a long goddamn way to CP with someone who's scared of massive drops
I've never been to CP, but I suspect the only coasters my family would go on would be the Cedar Creek Mine Ride and *maybe* Iron Dragon.
I totally agree with the rules for storage being different for every ride. They spend millions on these rides and can't afford some simple boxes that might cost $100 to store hats, glasses, umbrellas, etc. while you ride? This is what makes Disney better. Just about every coaster has a storage space or there's a spot to store as you load. I know the rides are very different, but this is about guest experience, not about the ride. It just seems cheap and careless on their part.
I don't want to repeat the same comments so I'll say that the Millenium Force station music sounds like the WWE NXT theme song of Dexter Lumus. Good video homie
i just got back from my first real trip to cedar point yesterday (first trip got rained out before riding anything) and was expecting a pretty decent ride on rougarou but instead we got our ears smashed in. the head banging after the vertical loop following the drop was so bad i couldn’t even focus on anything else. needless to say i was a little disappointed lol. awesome layout visually though.
The mid course brake run for Valraven happens so early and kills the pacing for that ride.
So my daughter and I rode SteVe this past weekend. We were placed in the 12th row. It was her first ride and she is 8 😂 It was awesome.
I went to Kings Dominion a few weeks ago and the loose article policy was just as bad there. Must be a Cedar Fair thing.
Also, glad you mentioned the third hill on Magnum. I've been saying for years that's one of the highlights of the ride.
Dude the policy wher they close everything hours before the park closes is so flippen anoying
The best seat on wicked twister is second to back right seat. There are no cars obstructing the view, you can see straight to the ground!
Great video, Chris, but saying 3 years without visiting Cedar Point is is long in coaster years isn't my "lived reality" and besides, it makes coaster enthusiasts look kinda spoiled, no? Besides that, I still LOVED this video!
My 11 favourite coasters at Cedar Point are the following coasters in this order: Steel Vengeance, Millennium Force, Gatekeeper, TTD, Raptor, Maverick, Max XL 200, Rougarou, Valravn, Gemini and Wicked Twister, ALL in the back car (except Maverick which I prefer in the middle)
I'm sure it's frustrating to be met with different policies within the same park; I hope Cedar Point will eventually get their policies to be cohesive. Great video, thanks for posting!
Well 3 years being long in coaster years just means your memory wanes, not necessarily like i was throwing a tantrum complaining that i NEED to get back there
@@AirtimeThrills fair enough. I've only been in May 2018 and got most of my coaster credits in Autumn 2019 but Cedar Point is still fresh for me; I might feel differently if I had hundreds more credits I'm sure. (I intend to get my 100th credit next week at Canada Wonderland)
I am lucky enough to have cedar point as my home park and I went once this summer. I had a great time but that’s only because the group I went with decided to get the fast pass plus or whatever they call it which was more than our ticket. Maverick was amazing, best ride I’ve ever had on it. Steel vengeance luckily was also the best ride experience I’ve had; There was no mid break stopping. Valraven has to be my least favorite coaster in the park. The line is usually a bit long and there aren’t any real stand out features besides the first drop. When coming into the station it stops so aggressively at a weird angle that makes me sick to my stomach - and I have a strong stomach. Overall my experience was good. Cant wait to return once I can scrap up enough money.
Growing up in the 70's, no one carried a bunch of unnecessary junk onto rides. You just kept wallets and combs in your pocket. And even today, you can still wear pants with deep pockets for cell phones. Keep all your other crap at home.
I have rode every coaster there multiple times this year in the 30 visits we made
Hey when are you going to over Texas again?
I went to cedar point in June, 2021. I rode magnum xl200 and it was rough af, I even rode in the magic seat. I don't understand why as everyone has told me it was smooth
Totally agree maginum is goat
It's my home park and even *I* can't keep up with the article policies because they change every day, or every shift! As much as I love SV, I will almost always skip it, wear a tiny fanny pack (suddenly now banned from the line lockers at SV) and do Maverick and Magnum instead.
I think if there is one positive thing from the sale of the $99 Gold pass, it's that the crowd levels seem to have forced Cedar Point into racing Gemini nearly all the time!
In my experience, I never felt like we were racing the other car unfortunately. Even going up the hill we weren't side by side. Not even close. So it kind of took the fun out of it. I watched it a lot when I wasn't on it also. Operations those days didn't seem to keep the trains close for some reason.
@@judiplaz Interesting, I’ve been riding it for just about as long as it’s been around and I could probably count on one hand the times when both tracks are in use and the ops don’t have them leaving the station at the same time. Usually that means blue has a significant lead on the lift due to the inside lane approaching it. Red usually passes on the first turn around followed by blue taking the lead on the second turn around. From there, physics really starts to take over and the heavier train can start to pull ahead for an easy victory, but more often than not, there are still hand smacking opportunities on the last turn around.
@@timk987 well u have more ride experience on it then me so I will chalk it up to a fluke.
damn was there the same days you were :) We traveled from North Dakota. My daughter turned in to a junky this week. Shes hooked. 12 and wants everything you can throw at her.
Hey you forgot Woodstock Express
What is the magic seat?
I was there a bit too early to meet you sadly
july 1st to 3rd was my first trip
I rode magnum 11 times on my last trip to the point
Yo TTD had an accident like a week ago where a woman got injured
I also thought MF was better in 2021 than 2020
Ok so i need your opinion should i go to six flags fiesta texas (ive never gone before) or over texas
go to fiesta texas
Over Texas 100%. Fiesta Texas only has overrated rmcs.
@@Starlit43 ultimately you can't go wrong with either but I tried making a suggestion because op said they hadn't been to fiesta texas before! :)
@@Starlit43 so does over Texas, mediocre rides can be overrated too lol. OT does not have a standout ride whatsoever and fiesta Texas has THREE.
@@liam-wg3gf you fell for the bait.
Carrying all your stuff onto Magnum XL200 .... yeah that's a dumb idea!
I was there in 2021 and Gemini is NOT smooth 😆
I don't really mind the SteVe article policy, but it would be good if it was made clear that the lockers in the queue are free, or just make all the lockers free.
I had one ride on Valravn (in the rain) and really liked it. I'd say it's my #4 in Cedar. Point.
I'm very annoyed they won't let you have small fanny packs in the SV queue. The lockers will obviously fit my gf's Coaster Crew fanny pack. We only keep our car keys, our credit cards, ID, and our phones in there.
Gemini in the front row is smooth as silk I was there last week, I also rode it in the back and that was rough.
Rode in a wheel seat I bet
I don't like Gemini.
@@EchoBrick yeah i was there a few days ago and its smoother than maverick lol
Millennium has been so much better this year, probably the full trains, I just wish I was a little quicker up that lift like it was back in the day
i hope they fix whatever’s not letting it do that
@@justinraney1248 it’s the 20+ year old lift motor that has needed replaced for the last few years, so I hear…
I'm pretty sure that it was the half-capacity trains last year that had it running weak. It was clearly better this year, but I still think summer 2018 was at it's absolute best.
@@OklahomaCoasterFan I've never had a better ride on millennium than halloweekends 2003 personally
I had one ride this summer and I was really disappointed. It was certainly fun, but I had better rides on Titan at six flags over Texas
“It feels like going through TSA to get on Steel Vengeance”
Went for the first time earlier this year, my exact thoughts.
After a colonoscopy and root canal, of course 😂
If you continue to violate Cedar Point rules, continue to do things that endanger other riders' safety, berate and badger employees with questions that have no answers, and complain about needing to pay to use lockers......you WILL continue to get the TSA treatment!
Even though it does seem like that - I fully understand the reasoning for it and wish the park was a bit more strict with loose articles on other rides. IMO you should get kicked out of the park if you try to take your phone out for a video - could really hurt someone
@@rparqer I’d say if you take it a step further and really crack down on line jumpers, you’d be eliminating the people that have the gall to knowingly break the rules before the can even get on the ride.
@@timk987 That's a good point too... but I think this mostly comes down to the other people in line alerting staff of the jumpers. I had two people line cut waiting for TTD and not a single person around me told the ride ops. I did, and they got kicked off the ride (not sure about the park or not tho)
As someone who worked at raptor this summer, the only reason we told one person per row to go to the bins was so there weren't so many people getting on the ride putting stuff away while everyone else was grabbing their stuff out of the bins, which led to faster and more efficient ops. Also thanks for finally putting Raptor over Banshee!
No that policy totally makes sense, its just interesting that it has that policy and the other rides didnt seem to adopt it (as far as i could see)
In regards to the pain on the Magic Seat, I'm quoting Hellraiser when I say 'pain and pleasure, indivisible as one.'
As for Maverick, I don't have the same issues you talk about with the restraints.
The original restraints were godawful. Especially when you hit the Stengel dive in the dark!
@@scottyjbd I believe it! I actually find the current restraints comfortable AND I get airtime, as well as violently thrown about.
Rode the "magic seat" early this year and folks waiting for the two rows in front of me weren't paying attention. The gate opened and closed and they didn't get through. It was the worst ride in the 32 years I've been riding Magnum - painfully bouncing over every hill only to get slammed in the back by the rest of the train as we hit the bottom. Horrible ride for me there.
I'll take row 15 or 12 now every day. A great ride every time, and no thigh crushing on the home stretch.
I visited Cedar Point for the first time back in early June. Another thing to add for Steel Vengeance is that if you wear glasses, it’s required that they’re held on with a strap, or you have to put them in a locker.
Knott’s Berry Farm has this policy on their coasters, and were super strict about it on my last visit. I’m super blind so I have to admit that once I left the station I just put them back on. I’ve been wearing glasses for 20 years and not once have they ever even come close to falling off on a coaster or any ride for that matter
I always recommend getting straps for eye glasses and have em for every ride you go on. You never know when the Coaster will try to steal em. I almost lost a pair on the Beast in the helix before I invested in them.
the thing that frustrated my wife and I when we visited this year was not articles policy but that Fast Lane was overpriced and underwhelming. Waiting 45 mins for elite rides is way better than 90+ minutes, but I think they should be selling fewer passes each day if they're charging so much. We actually ended up having more fun at King's Island this year because we got many more rides in on the elite coasters.
Yeah 45 minutes for fast lane was a little annoying. Also my first visit.
How about waiting 75 minutes in fast lane while the regular line is 45 minutes. That was my experience with fast lane, which is why I refused to buy it the 2nd day, and I got on the rides quicker. So many people had fast lane, that it's line was longer than the regular line in many cases.
With fast lane plus I never waited more than 20 min, and rode all the elites 3 times or more
My carowinds saturday was like that. Fast lane lines were insane
I visited for the first time at the beginning of July. Amen on Magnum. I absolutely loved it and you can marathon it super easily. It was a station wait both days I went in July. I really enjoyed raptor, that helix at the end is sooooo forceful. Maverick and Steel Vengeance were my other favorites. I thought Millenium Force was just kinda meh.
millennium force is nice and relaxing lol
Mangnum is criminly underrated, which is fine, less I have to wait.
When you said that Kings island was still better I yelled WOOHOO I’m not the only one. 😂👍
I’m not gonna lie, I underestimated these Arrow coasters. They made a couple of good, smooth airtime machines. If only they focused on those more than their loopers.
I agree, they had like 10 years where it was just them, Morgan, and Togo manufacturing them. Coulda made a lot more
And never made anaconda
Well unfortunately, the Corkscrew model was just too easy to keep manufacturing. Plus, they had to build Vortex for free for Kings Island after they screwed up on The Bat.
@@AirtimeThrills totally. Although my sister will tell you stories of her almost falling out numerous times on sky rider at wonderland.
Though I live a ways away from Cedar Point, it will always be my honorary “home park.” Magnum was my first large coaster ever and after that, I was hooked. I try to get back when I can. But I agree Cedar Point needs uniform carry on policies.
Man CP is having so many issues this year between staffing issues, bad ops, a broken chain on Gatekeeper, and the Dragster accident. They really need to get it together
It seems to be a bad year for theme parks in general, every big one and even some minor ones have had problems. Part of it is because they're just not willing to meet job seekers where they are, and part of it is probably because parks differed maintenance during the pandemic and it's a gamble that turned out to be a bad idea.
@@JCBro-yg8vd not willing to meat job seeker, there offering 20 bucks an hour at one point
I got to finally visit this park for the first time in 2021 and I definitely agree with everything you said!
I laughed way too hard at "going through the colonoscopy & root canal" to ride SV🤣🤣🤣 so true though, I'm just glad it's no longer an upcharge attraction thanks to the free lockers. I think if parks are going to force lockers, they should go the route of Hersheypark and make them free.
It’s still a $2 up charge if you go after a heavy rain and the free lockers get flooded. The funny thing is that CP pays a couple workers $20 an hour to squeegee water off the concrete pad only to watch it flow right back at them. What’s annoying is that I remember the fast lane queue flooding in years past, so they had to know this could/ would happen.
Hopefully America’s rockin roller coast will be back to normal next year, I still need 5 credits
It's back to normal now basically minus the shitty hours. I don't think Mike Dewine is going to lockdown or mandate masks again, not with the legislature on his ass
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv and the gold pass fiasco
@@Benny-hd7tz gold pass will be 99 bucks again next year AND comes with more perks
Wow. First minutes of the video really make it clear what a mess their loose article policies are now. I’m all about keeping everything in zippered pockets and really hate it when I can’t travel simply like that. At least a place like Universal is really organized and efficient when they force you to empty your pockets. At the very least, I’m glad SV is no longer a de facto upcharge ride with the lockers.
Yeah i was thinking that universal basically has steel vengeance like policies but it seems so much more organized even though its still annoying
Unfortunately the park basically forces folks to buy an all day locker for 7 out of 10 of the most popular rides. So when you visit, count on adding another $8 to your budget if you carry more then a phone, car keys, cards, and IDs
@@queerandpleasantdanger3103 I always carry very little to parks - just phone, keys, cards. But even then on my last visit to SFGAdv I got an all-day locker just to avoid the hassle of their ride policies.
Just got back from my 2 day visit there. Easily the most fun I've had in a long time. My favorites were easily Maverick, Steel Vengeance, Gatekeeper, and Millennium Force 😍 and SURPRISINGLY got a pretty decent ride on corkscrew with no headbanging haha
Wow you are lucky! On Steamin Demon at Great Escape I rode 4 times and pretty much had to lift myself out of my seat to avoid headbanging.
Those are my 4 favorites at the park as well. Corkscrew rode well for me too, no headbanging as long as I leaned my head forward, and it had some shocking airtime. I do remember Steamin Demon, the loop-corkscrew model at Great Escape, being very shaky with a lot of headbanging, but Cedar Point's rides much better.
@@OklahomaCoasterFan Yeah it’s pretty miserable.
I was there a couple weeks after you and everything was running. Millennium always runs well for me, and Magnum is still one of my favorite rides in the park. Maverick was kicking ass when I rode 3 times. And Steel Vengeance doesn't even need a description. They had gatekeeper going and I find it to be quite pleasant. Raptor was kicking serious ass
I ran into so many stupid policies on my first trip ever there this year
It absolutely ruined every morning at the park for the first hour entry. I got on more rides at kings island for there 30 minute early entry than I did for an hour at cedar point. Cedar point not allowing fast lane for the first hour frustrated me. Kings Island allows you to use fast lane in early entry still so was expecting this at cedar point. Also staying on site hotel spending 600 for 2 nights and finding out I can't enter the valraven gate for early entry 5 minutes before it started (no sign postage anywhere) and an old grouchy Landy pulling the sign out 5 minutes before and yelling at us that we cant enter if we arnt staying in the marina or something. So we had to walk all the way back around and miss out on getting in line early for millennium force. Yeah I was pretty pissed the first hour of the day at cedar point. Shortly after tho the coasters made me forget.
Yeah CP is a complicated place, sometimes it just gets annoying
That’s interesting. I didn’t know that about the Valravn gate. You’re right that is not posted anywhere other than it being known over the year as the marina entrance. I almost dropped my daughter and 3 of her friends there, but the elected to go around to the back to the Magnum gate and wait 5 minutes (10am) when they allow non hotel guest in that gate.
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Your right about steel vengeance being a mess. I went during the summer with my friend and in the line there were lockers for free to put stuff in. Literally just a week after that, I went with my family and they made us put the stuff in the lockers outside the line that cost money? I don’t get it lol
You had to shove an umbrella down your shirt to go on the coaster?? What on earth. How is that safe
Me & my family went (we were there the day of the dragster accident). Between the four of us we hit pretty much everything, my older daughter didn’t like magnum at all. We liked the usual (m. Force, steel vengeance, maverick, etc.). The two rides all four of us agreed on were gatekeeper and raptor (my younger daughter didn’t ride the bigger ones I mentioned).
I went at the end of July and only had a day and a half so I got the fast pass for my full day there. This was my first time here since 2014 so this was my first time getting to ride Rougarou (I rode Mantis previously), Valravn and Steel Vengeance.
I got at least one ride on every coaster apart from the kiddie coasters.
First off, Steel Vengeance is absolutely insane. I got 3 rides on this, including a night ride in the back row (this was my first ever ride on an RMC) . Even with all the hype and expectation going into it, this is still easily the best coaster I've ever been on.
Maverick - amazing as always. I don't really mind the restraints though. Only got 1 ride in the morning because it was closed pretty much the whole time I was there.
Millennium Force - I had previously loved this coaster and it was actually my 100th credit. The 2 rides I got on it this summer were just meh :/
Rougarou - People say this is the most underrated coaster in the park and I would heavily disagree. I rode in the front row and I swear I had a rougher ride on this than I did on Corkscrew. Don't know if it's just that way in the front, or if I just got a rarely bad ride, but based on that ride I have no desire to ever ride it again.
Iron Dragon - This was more fun than I remembered it being, but I agree that it isn't forceful at all.
Valravn - This is easily the most overrated coaster in the park. The drops were meh, the inversions forceless and pointless, the "airtime" had no airtime. I don't really understand how this ride always has a 90 minute wait with all the other amazing rides in this park (Magnum always is a walk on wtf). Granted, I feel like if this ride was at a smaller park this would probably stand out a bit more.
Raptor - Absolutely awesome ride, got a back row ride with no trims. Those last corkscrews and helix are so intense. I don't remember if I rode this in 2014 or not (I'm guessing not)
Blue Steak - Okay as always. CP desperately needs a better woodie.
Gatekeeper - This was fun, but not as good as I remembered it being in 2014, plus it also seems to have a pretty noticeable rattle now.
Wicked Twister - Great in the back and was nice to get another ride before it closes but yea, I'm not too sad to see it go. Another park would appreciate it much more.
Corkscrew - Boring and rough but still not as rough as Rougarou.
Top Thrill - This was one of the main reasons I went to CP in the past, and it was a bit underwhelming. The launch is fantastic, but the drop doesn't really do much for me; especially after waiting for 30-60min (with FLP). This also shut down 4 times right before I was about to hop in line (I guess it beats being in line)
Magnum - Such a good ride and is by far the most underrated coaster in the park. I have no idea how this only ever gets a 10 minute wait.
Gemini - This ride always surprises me with how great the airtime on those drops are. I will be sad to see it go, but yea it likely will be gone soonish.
Cedar Creek Mine Ride - Tear this down, this ride sucks. PLEASE PUT A GCI HERE
It sounds like you had FLP the same day I did, since you mentioned Maverick going down after the morning. It stayed down until late Thursday. My wait for Dragster was literally 75 minutes with FLP, while people in the regular line had waited less than 45 minutes.
@@OklahomaCoasterFan I went the 27/28th of July and yea Maverick was only open the first hour of the 28th :/ And dang thats a brutal wait for TTD
@@rparqer I was there those days. I had FLP on the 27th, and Maverick went down late morning. I didn't realize it operated the first hour on the 28th. I went to shows and rode less popular rides that day, since that day was busier than I've seen it on Saturdays.
I just went for the first time a week ago, and my thoughts were practically identical to yours (Millennium Force was slow though). My favorite ended up being Magnum.
out of everything??
I always appreciate your love for both Raging Bull and Kings Island.
Oh I hate both of the those things
coolgamer17 😡😡😡😡😡😡😢👎👎👎
@@Starlit43 I don't hate them, but they are easily the most overrated things among enthusiasts.
Chris, I wasn't going to say this but I got mad. I visited Cedar Point and Kings Island three weeks ago. I spent three days at each park and observed standby lines crowding. At Cedar Point this year the only people that could come intro the park at the Magnum entrance were hotel guests and campground guests for early ride time. That meant that by the time I got to the back of the park (Entered at the front gate) to ride the best rides the lines were unreal and I have a Platinum Pass. One day I finished riding Millennium Force and Maverick and walked to Steel Vengeance. The ride was still testing but the lines were out of this world. The troubling part of this was the Fastlane + line was as long as the standby line. I observed the same problem at King's Island. How many Fastlane passes are these parks selling in a day? My answer is too many. I'm just not going to pay and extra $85 to $125 per day to ride. Another day visit to Millennium Force I noticed that Fastlane purchasers were riding and re-riding so often it was really slowing down the standby lanes. I know the parks need to make money but the Fastlane system is making line waits longer and longer in the regular line.
This is exactly why Fast Lane *Passes* don't work, and should be replaced with Fast Lane *TICKETS* in which you only get to jump the line to ride *once* . As for the Magnum entrance, the park is in the business of making money, and if you help them by spending your money at Breakers and the campgrounds you should get perks associated with it.
Blue Streak is my favorite coaster at Cedar Point. Iron Dragon is lame and The Bat is soo much better. Operations have DEFINITELY slipped here. And Top Thrill Dumpster is an absolute waste of time. That ride is a dog and is soo overrated. People with carry on items definitely slow down lines for everyone else. Leaving all that unnecessary shit in your car. Why do you need to take fucking Tar-zhay to sn amusement park is beyond me. Fast Lane operations here are not efficient as they are at Kings Island
Honestly happy you called out Cedar Point’s on ride items policies here. Had my first ever trip a month ago and had an incredible time discovering my new favorite coasters, but the multiple policies were weird and the strictness on Steel Vengeance was a little annoying, like props to the team members for doing their jobs thoroughly, but I couldn’t even have my tiny hand sanitizer in my tight shorts that wasn’t gonna go anywhere. Thankfully the ride experience was top tier and still immediately became my favorite coaster, but eventually Millie took the top spot, SteVe’s seriousness was only a minor contributor to that. Maverick had my favorite policy with the buckets and how organized they were with them.
I went to cedar point on August first and it was awesome. I rode SteVe five times that day, (including one night ride), Maverick twice (with my favorite night ride ever and I have the Beast at my home park), GateKeplar twice, Top Thrill Dragster twice, Valravn twice (first dive coaster for me), Millennium Force twice, and Raptor once. Having Banshee as my home park made me dislike Raptor because of the headbanging, I can deal with the pelvis crusher that is Banshee but the headbanging gave me a headache. Also, that launch on Top Thrill is crazy, you feel all of that 120 mph. Millenium force was my first giga (with me getting on Orion a week later, I prefer Orion). Also, I couldnt find how to get to Magnum or Gemini so I didnt get to ride those.
All in all, great experience plus first time ever to Cedar Point. (Plus SteVe was my 25th coaster)
Please fix Maverick’s restraints CP.
Magnum and Gemini's entrances are literally near each other 😭
I must say it's very interesting how much flip-flopping you seem to have with your opinion on coasters! Sure I can have bad rides on some of my favorites (2012 voyage roughness, the rough trains on banshee)
But I've never had anything totally change my love for them... yet :p
They should be getting rid of bins on all of their major rides at this point. They slow operations by an insane amount. I am sure at some point in the future all rides at all parks will have a strict no phone policy like SteVe.
My 2020 rides on Banshee weren't great either, but this year I think it's been running a lot better.
During my last trip to KI at the beginning of August I finally got a front seat ride on Banshee and it was AMAZING! Way better than the back row. I could finally feel the forces of the ride up there and nothing beats a night ride where you can feel the difference in air temperature when it dips down close to the ground and the fog starts rolling in. Perfection. My friend and I were even able to marathon it at the end of the night since by then it was a walk-on. A great experience.
I found 2021 banshee > 2020 banshee too. I still think raptor is slightly better though. Haven't ridden raptor since 19
@@jamesmeyer9574 Personally prefer Banshee slightly but that's totally valid. I've gone back and forth in them a bit.
In what universe is Top Thrill Dragster underrated? The speed is incredible and you feel like you're out of your seat the whole time when you go over the top of the tower
Yeah when I went to cedar point back in July gatekeeper was closed also😢
Magnum is definitely still one of the best coasters in the world, I've marathoned it for hours at a time. It's amazing!
Always makes me laugh when someone doesn’t like it. Kids, today
I’m sorry, but I don’t believe you. There is no way anyone can do that. I didn’t feel any pain from the restraints. No thighcrush pain. I’ve ridden it in row 3. However, the ride is bumpy. Even in a non wheel seat. You don’t have any proof that you marathoned Magnum xl 200 for hours.
As a local, after this season I am pretty fed up with this place. The workers seem rude, the policies are confusing and rarely enforced, and not one of my experiences has been fun. The coasters are excellent as usual, but... yeah. Now this brings me to the disaster that is the Gold Pass. Not only has this overcrowded the park, it just sucks to be a local who has bought platinum so many years. We only bought it because we were gonna go to Knott's in 2020 but then Covid happened. Still, we had the early entry perks and other perks. Until they were removed. I agree with you that Kings Island is the better park overall. Sorry if I may sound like a Karen, but it's just true. Cedar Point, do better.
It sounds like CP needs to get better ride operators, especially now that they can't bank on Dragster drawing in the crowds due to it being closed.
Chris should do a vid on best coaster signs and logos, what do you think.
Perfect upload timing, I'm heading there this weekend for the first time in 4 years. Excited to finally ride SV but those loose article policies sound confusing.
Magnum is SO GOOD, and we walked onto it every time. And Millennium Force is fantastic.
Gemini is better and more thrilling than Valravn, change my mind
Yeah. The park needs a consistent loose articles policy for every coaster, that way people know how to pack accordingly.
What a timely video. I'm about to leave for my trip, and will be at cedar point by Monday hopefully. Let's hope we only get the threat of rain!
Lightning Rod & Twisted Timbers > Steel Vengeance I’m sorry Chris
Shivering Timbers & Voyage > Steel Vengeance
@@floatercoasters1473 voyage yes shivering Timbers I’ve never been on it
I agree with LRod being better. Haven't done Twisted Timbers, but hopefully soon; looks like a top tier RMC
@@thequackenscoasterchannel2927 the airtime on Timbers is more violent than SteVe
Interesting! Sounds like I need another trip out there soon. Haven’t been since 2019. My opinions on the coasters might change. As always great video Chris!
In 2019 I thought raptor was overrated and not that forceful. But in 2021 I got a back row trims off ride that was tearing through its layout. I definitely understand the hype with the ride
Did you go on opening day? That was when I went but I didn’t ride many coasters. I agree that SV is a mess with loose articles though, I went last week and the first ride I could put my waist pack in the small locker, but the next day I had to pay for a larger locker. And all that to get absolutely stapled by ride ops. Weird. And IDK how tall you are, but Rougarou is free whiplash and a nasty headache if you’re short like me. I rode it once and NEVER again.
(And my record for number of rides at once on Magnum was 14 rides in a row, all walk-ons in late afternoon. My thighs were dead by the end of that.)
I didnt but i did go on opening day 2018
@@AirtimeThrills Oh, ok. Makes sense because not much was open on 2021 opening day. 2022 opening day was wayyy worse though.
So I’ve got a question. I’m a fellow coaster yt myself and I was wondering what website u edit on because mine is trash. Thanks and keep up the good work
I use adobe premiere pro
@Airtime Thrills thx appreciate it
I was there for four full days of coasters. I agree with you on most parts, especially the spotty loose articles policies. The only things I disagree were with the ride experiences on Rougarou and Valravn. I rode Valravn twice and had good experiences both times and rode Rougarou once and it was only a mild improvement over Mantis. I absolutely loved MF, SV, and Magnum. I even got the 7th row on the black train which was amazing.
I've only managed to get one visit in this year. Dragster was closed due to The Incident, I didn't ride SteVe or Millennium due to crowds, and I almost alwasy skip Maverick anyway due to even more severe problems with the restraints. It was rainy when I went, too, but that didn't seem to keep the crowds away, and it also wreaked havoc on operations all morning, resulting in a 30-minute wait for Magnum turning into an hour or two due to a closure that greatly outlasted the rain itself.
Still, I had a good time. Got good rides in on Gatekeeper, Wicked Twister, Magnum, and Gemini, along with a couple rides with family & friends on WindSeeker, Cedar Downs, the new boat ride, and the train. Biggest takeaway: Gemini is _severely_ underrated. It's incredibly smooth for an Arrow of any age, let alone one that opened in 1979, and it gives good airtime throughout. I had forgotten how fun it is with two full trains, too, with the excitement of competition and the high fives on the turns, and getting a ride in right as the park closed (a little early for my taste, tbh) was even better. Also, shout-out to the crew, who was hauling ass all night _and_ hyping up both trains like crazy at the same time.
I think kings island way better to
I was in Park Services at Cedar Point this summer. I had an awesome ride in Row 6 on Raptor and a rough one in row 4, a dude ride on Iron Dragon and another where the second half slapped, either I’ve only had good rides on Millie or just like the speed, I’ve only ridden Valravn in the middle (once in 2016 and twice over the summer) and the last time I rode all the B&M’s-it was the only one that was smooth: I had a smooth as glass evening ride on Rou and a row six stuck next to a dad with head banging, I had 3 awesome night rides as my first rides on Gatekeeper during an associate night (and I still waited longer for my sole back row ride on Wicked Twister. Front row twice and all rides only this season)-then a painful back row right wing during normal hours.
Each of my rides on Wicked Twister was better than the last (my last one was a rainy National Roller Coaster Day and you could hear the screech as the train stalled out before plunging backwards at high speed). I could watch the break system for hours if I had nothing better to do and I don’t know why. El Toro Ryan should do a Problematic Roller Coasters on the Intimin Impulse.
For Steel Vengeance, like Gatekeeper, my first rides were at an associate ride night-but were only in front half due to high demand and a noble sacrifice deciding to ride with a girl who looks like Margot Robbie’s Harley Quinn. My row 10 morning ride was more forceful and maybe a little much for me (when the queue actually opened to getting off was 45mins-got off just after 11, but had been like 2hrs since I had breakfast and I felt like I was going to throw up). Can’t knock the forces, I see why it is and deserves to be a god tier coaster, it’s just a front row ride for me I guess).
I have a video from the 16th releasing on September 16th and somehow my ride in the back car of the blue train was smooth, might have been the rain, might be because I was leaning into the corkscrews, might be train IDK. I was hoping an evening ride on Cedar Creek would be more forceful than a morning ride, but it’s a dude. I think I got Whiplash on my first night ride in the magic seat and my last ride on Magnum was actually not bad in terms of jackhammering into the final hills. I also got a row 13 ride on 8/16 (which was a Magnum/Gemini ride night)
5:35 dam your a genius
I was just at CP yesterday. We had a blast. A morning rain storm kept the park empty.
So I went to Cedar Point for the first tine in 2021 and I definitely had a different experience than you. Let's start with the things we seem to think the same on.
Raptor. The ride is absolutely INSANE. I loved how smooth it was and how graceful but forceful it can get. It was epic though Banshee does outrank it.
Valravn. So those restraints REALLY hurt... I actually struggled to breath while on it which made it impossible to figure out how to feel. I was glad when it was over...
Maverick. I appreciate it quite a bit since it reminds me of i305 just... smaller and has more for it. I say that and yet i305 is actually the young one here. :P Go figure. Yeah the restraints hurt anything it has going for it but I still like it.
Magnum. Ok so I obviously picked the wrong seat for my 1 ride. I'll give it another go next time in the back. Magic seat is a little overrated.
Millennium Force. YAY you still love it as do I! She's aged quite well and her speed was absolutely shocking! She got my most rides in my 2 days tied with one more...
Steel Vengeance. Ok so my strat with loose stuff is leave them with a non rider (my mom) so I actually got a chuckle from the ops noticing my lack of pockets. Anyways, I didn't mind the situation since it didn't affect me. The ride? OH BOY it was a rush! Nirvana! You say the back row is everything, You're RIGHT! Dang I had hope Fury would stay at #1... XD Ah but Steel Vengeance deserves the top for giving me an absolute trip! Truly worth it. :)
Oh and the other rides? Line was too long on all of them to get them. I did ride TTD twice though. SUPER rush! Oh and the 2nd time it broke down but the radio played CENTURIES so... that helped. XD
one thing that surprised me was that you didn’t ride corkscrew because it was uncomfortable😮 when i went in 2023, it was surprisingly smooth (being an arrow😅)
What do y’all think will happen to dragster after the accident
I don't think it'll be taken out or anything. I would be surprised if it isn't open with the park next May.
I literally just got to my hotel after two full days of CP and this was my first suggested video. Perfect timing! I agree with almost everything. Raptor back row trimless is intense and whippy in all the good ways. That final helix is like the graviton ride but just on your calves. I finally got good magnum magic seat rides! I just lapped it 4 times that ejector is so strong it almost hurts your thighs. My 6 Millie rides (almost all station waits!) were as amazing as always but now I can’t decide if Magnum is better or not? Valravn is just ok. It’d be better at a different park maybe cause I love the other dive coasters more. Wicked twister definitely best in back. Sad to see it go, but I look forward to something new and amazing hopefully. Rougarou and Iron Dragon are just meh. Blue streak and Gemini are underrated. Gatekeeper is a blast. TTD is down for the season. 6 rides on Maverick, 8 rides on SteVe. Can’t decide which is best? Both top 10 rides for me for sure though.
Mav or Steve...really just comes down to personal preference...airtime or intensity
I would’ve gotten a back row trimless ride on Raptor if the ops didn’t deny my request for the back row even though there was nobody waiting for it. I got assigned to row 2 on that ride, and it was lame. At least I got a front row trimless ride in the evening
Me and a buddy went to Cedar Point back in June of 2021 and it was a trip that was long planned in the making and originally we planned to go to Kings Island then Cedar Point on the trip (both parks for 2 days with a day in between to rest) and once we heard about the changes in the schedule and closings we had to rework our trip so we swapped dates with both parks and still had a blast. We had a problem with originally the hotel visit caused they said “I cancelled the room” (to which I didn’t) and they hooked me with with the rate to stay at Lighthouse point instead of Cedar Point express. Worth it
I do need to revisit hotel breakers but still amazing to walk out the door and see Magnum’s turnaround
Also I had not been to CP since 2000 so lots of new credits and 2 I needed to do since I wasn’t able to ride because of my height at that time compared to now changed (I was 5 when I last went lmao)
As far as the visit went, it was amazing but the downside was so many breakdowns (especially the infamous Intamins)
The Gatekeeper thing was funny because me and my buddy that came onto CP’s property (June 12th) we found out was the day when the chain snapped (which was impeccable timing ngl)
Steel Vengeance was absolutely amazing and it made me excited more and more for Iron Gwazi for the hype again.
Millie, Magnum and Gemini revisited childhood
Maverick was great but the restraints sucked (pad or no pad those over the shoulders are abysmal)
Glad I did Wicked Twister (ever since the announcement)
Raptor was amazing and a show stealer (as too was Valrayvn with being my first experience with the vest restraints)
Blue Streak was nice (but they do need a modern wooden coaster)
Rougaru wasn’t that bad at all
Top thrill was short but sweet and amazing (and did scare the crap outta me for being my first time to experience that one lmao)
The others? Meh
I have a vlog of it over there that discussed more about it
Finally as far as the policy went we didn’t have any issues nothing that was shown in the video here. Everything was smooth and straightforward. No issues i don’t think. So that may have been a one time thing 🤷♂️
Still I love reading others input about visits like that so thanks Airtime Thrills
Man! Love your channel!
Thanks because with top thrill dragster being closed for 2022, and that being the singular best coaster I've ridden in the 6 parks I've been to...
my son and I will look for a few closer alternative parks like holiday world. 👍
i dont know if you were a member or a gold season pass holder for six flags chris...but did you see what there doing for 2022....there promoting this "big" sale to current passholders for 2022...but they got rid of the gold season pass....if you buy a season pass for 2022 its only good at your home park...if you wanna visit all the six flags parks there forcing you too buy a membership....absolute BS in my opinion....ive been a gold season pass holder for years along with my son...i live in NY ....which is a seasonal six flags region...now i have to pay extra money monthly with a membership to go to different six flags parks around the country when this usual sale had gold season passes around 55-60 bucks...cant wait for someone to come out with a pros and cons video of this new thing there trying
Literally just got back from a 2 day stay at cedar point, Steel Vengeance is my new number one over Toro, magnum was not very enjoyable at all in my opinion, the airtime hills just hurt, although that’s most likely due to both my rides being in the front car (one in the magic seat) and also blue streak is the most underrated ride at the park better than a bunch of their other coasters (Gemini, Magnum, Valravn)
Bad takes all around
@@Starlit43 lol
I'm with you regarding Magnum. To me its just a series of airtime hills with bad transitions and hard lapbars that hurt the experience.