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Henk is 63 and he used distortion for the second time in his life, he said it was a big no no for Opera singers, First time he did it with "The Sound Of Silence" on this show for Floor 👀
Gosh you look gorgeous, great video analysis. Since you have a lot of experience in opera music I strongly suggest Ulisse with Aída Garifúllina at VTB Arena
@@mandymaessen-vandelaar2404 Linor is giving her opinion from her years of vocal training and studies. I just discovered Renee Fleming..go listen to THAT voice. Linor was just being very honest..Opera singers are vocal masters..it's unbelievable the amount of training to create the right sounds flawlessly.. Floor is one of the best singers I've ever heard..but she's NOT a expert Opera singer.. If Floor went the full opera route I'm sure she would be up there but not yet.. Now listen to this ladies high note at the end... th-cam.com/video/cdrvTRtN8tQ/w-d-xo.html
Please feel free to just say you've heard better. Floor is not an opera singer. Henk has been her idol as a kid, and she really wanted to do this rendition of the song she usually plays with her band Nightwish with her idol from opera. This was basically a guilty pleasure, and I think they both sounded and acted amazing. Love that it's mostly for fun.
I don't know why people are so negative about saying "This isn't the best version of something" like it could still be very very good, but if you've heard better somewhere... Like there are so many performances and chances are that somewhere there is a better one.
What I Love about Floor's VOICE and Style is that it's a sort of Hybrid. This Versatility is what makes her Singing so Captivating. Unlike her NIGHTWISH predecessors Who were stylistically Limited. Floor is Dynamic, Capable & Beautifully Versatile...that's Why She's brought Tuomas' songs to their highest level of expression.
Linor, don't be afraid to speak out. That's what I expect from voice teachers and professional singers. To give their true opinion. The only thing is, you say 'I heard better' and then it stopped... I hoped you also would explain compared to what or whom or in which way. That's the information I like to hear. Same goes for Henk when you see "not the freeest i've ever heard. It may be my lack of knowledge of the singing techniques, but iI don't know what you mean by that.I would love to have some more clarification. For the rest, keep up the good work.
I hate leaving you hanging like this not knowing what I meant. Thanks for the encouragement BTW. I thought, and said indirectly, that she was not really singing fully and letting her voice flow. You can see that in her jaw which sometimes shakes. About Henk, it sounds like his vibrato (and his voice in general) is made with some effort, while the kind that I prefer is when there is free airflow and the sounds just vibrates on its own without extra tension :) Hope this helps
I totally agree, I can watch a bunch of other ‘reactors’ and hear how they loved it as much as I do, but with vocal coaches and singers, I want to hear a full opinion. On the other hand, I also understand how toxic the comment sections can get. Especially when it’s someone and a performance they loved. I enjoyed your reaction, and appreciated your follow-up comment to the question in this thread. Keep being honest about how you’re feeling and hearing what you’re watching/listening to. I’ll take an honest critique over someone trying to please the fan base anytime.
"I've heard better". Indeed, there are better female opera singers. And maybe this performance was more a metal version. But how many of those better female opera singers can also add a proper distortion to their singing voice? And how many of them can do proper growls? Most of them (if not all) are simply stuck in their opera voice. Not to mention stage presence before 80K+ people. It's hard to compete with a 6'1" versatile singer who can do it all.
Practice, versatility, and a heavy focus on physical and vocal health is what makes Floor Jansen one of the best singers in the world. She is not an opera singer, but for a rock singer she sounds pretty darn good singing opera!
@Klojum, did she hurt your love? I have Floor as one of my favorite singers. But come on! She did a great job on this but it was not a master piece. But I must say that I really like Floor as a singer, her ability to go from style to style and do it great. The growl thing I dont know I'm no expert on that. But I think she sounds great.
@@FERNANDOAUGUSTO-fv1ck i prefer this version. And i hope that next year Henk Poort will do this duet with Floor and Nightwish in the Ziggodome Amsterdam and i know for sure that will be a better version than what you mention.
To answer your question about the end of the second verse, where they are singing together: Floor is up a full step from the original key, while Henk is singing in the original key. By the way, Andrew Lloyd Webber, the Phantom composer, is reported as saying that the only person he could see ever playing the Phantom is Henk Poort.
What i like best about this adjusted version (NightWish arrangement) is that Floor the Metal Queen, stays in a more classical routine, while its the Opera star Henk, who opens up the "Rock tabs" so to speak, switching the roles they normally would have. They indeed started this in a slightly lower range, likely to bring that darker atmosphere, and as a bit of a safety measure, Floor can hold D6 with ease (she did here) but the original E6, is still in her reach btw, but its not a note you always hit, no matter how good one is. And (not the case here) in the musical itself, the high E6 is actually recorded, and rarely sung live because its a killer on the vocal cords and near impossible to pull of night after night, so its a sort of safety measure.(fun facts lol) I love how Floor and Henk are in character for this performance, and it was very visible they had a great time doing it :) Thnx for the upload Linor :D
IMHOin this case it is also more that it follows up a long build up that isn't easy to do at all either. If all she had to do is that one end scream, I am certain she could hve hit an E6, but in this case it likely were too risky to attempt, and prolly wouldn't last nearly as long as this D6 either.
@@TerranigmaQuintet yes, i have no doubt Floor could hit the E6, but she didnt need to go for it, the arrangement was perfect as it was for me, and the 8 or 9 seconds D6? makes up for any 3 seconds E6 :P
Christines part at the beginning is actually up the octave from the original ;) i can't comment on single notes later in the piece though, as i'm just an amateur sound tech without perfect pitch, so i would need my tools for that ;)
I actually come here because you are ... picky. It makes me understand the music more. This version was the Nightwish version, which is indeed slightly different from the original.Henk is 63 now, he did the Phantom around 1994. He took a two-hour lesson to learn the distortion technique for Sound of Silence, earlier in the show.
To add on, Henk only agreed to do this duet if he got to join Nightwish when they are in the Netherlands on the next tour. I believe he’s also going to be at the 6 (I think it was 6) solo shows Floor is doing in the next few months, as is the house band (their name escapes me at the moment). As much as I enjoyed this version, I’m really interested in hearing Marco and Floor performing the NW arrangement. I am curious to see if Henk can master the distortion he was using.
@@syyneater The solo shows are now up to 12 now. They all sold out within 24 hours. Lets hope Nightwish brings out the camera crew to the Ziggo dome shows. Since they added a second show there as well. Damn I wish I lived in Europe.
Honesty is the best policy & I'm sure every true music lover can take it. Also, as this wasn't the original Andrew Lloyd Webber, but Nightwish's metal version of the song, I guess they had to adjust their vocals accordingly.
Yeah perfect comment. Who expects a metal queen and a musical king to do the same boring thing that’s been sung the same way for 1000 years. This is basically a cover song, and those should always be made to be YOUR OWN spin on it. That’s how I see it anyway. And the fact that hank learned distortion to sing this THEIR WAY, shit that’s like the sweetest and coolest thing ever. She was beaming and over the moon doing this with him. And I’m so glad they continue to do it when she’s touring solo at home. I mean who gets to be best friends with their idol from when they were little.
Thank you for this reaction! I’ve been looking forward to it since this song was released. I agree with you 💯. This isn’t the best operatic version I’ve heard, but this isn’t an operatic version, it’s a rock version done by a metal singer with (by her own admission) minimal classical training. What an amazing performance by Floor & Henk. A stunning rendition which left its immediate audience stunned & standing. Bravo! ❤️
Floor and Henk had a short amount of time to make this song their own. Not months and months of rehearsing or whatever. I think it was awesome. Floor is a metal singer with an incredable voice. Her pitch was D6 I heard from another vocal coach. Henk performed the role of the Phantom a few years but that was in the early 90S. To perform it in this way was one of the best live performances I have heard in years. But to each their own. If you were not blown away by it, I respect that.
Henk Poort has acording to himself sdone 30 Operas, 26 Operettas and about 10 musicals and some acting, Ever since Floor heared him sing in the dutch "Phantom" she has been a fangirl 😍🐱👤👍 He is a Bariton but alsoo sings Tenor when the part asks for it. He has lived in Italy for 15 years and met Andrea Bocelli there, before he was famous I think.
Floor has never claimed to be an opera singer. She only has 1 year of classical training and by her own admission doesn't really enjoy doing it. I personally couldn't be happier that she stays away from a lot of classical singing because I can only take it in small doses. I definitely like it more than growling, but if she never did either again I would be ok with it. As a final note this, to me, is the most entertaining performance of this song I've ever seen and I've seen the North America tour twice and many others performances on TH-cam. In this performance they really made a connection and took a unique approach which is what I look for in live performances. I can hear the original anytime so why should I settle for someone reproducing it in exact detail. If Floor did that we wouldn't have got the last note for an eight count and that was absolutely kickass!
Yeah. Her opera training is purely for technique and for something to interject into her normal music. She uses it to great effect, but she doesn't enjoy doing it too much.
I don't know where this "information" comes from that she doesn't like or enjoy singing in this style. In fact she quite recently stated that she enjoys singing in the "classical style" quite a lot, but she only uses it where she thinks it fits in. She only mentioned on several occasions that she doesn't particularly like classical music as such, where I think this mostly refers to listening to it. She used this singing style a lot in After Forever and ReVamp, where she had at least part control over the songwriting (in ReVamp she was the "creative director"), so it was really up to her to do it or not, and I'm pretty sure no one forced her ;) Her latest statement was that by her performances in Beste Zangers (this one and the Vilja-Lied in particular) she hopes to give a bit of "candy" to those fans who keep complaining that she doesn't use this style enough in Nightwish.
She start the show with the Vilja song in german and she even sings O Mio Babbino Caro on tv and from the gamecube game Final Fantasy Chronicals she sings Sound of the Wind...
Floor did some classical training, but ended up stopping her lessons. She may draw on the style from time to time, but she doesn't want classical to be her identity and prefers to mix styles. I think she'd probably even agree with what you said that there are better classical versions of the song (I'm sure a mix was her goal here as always). I think people get very defensive of her because of what has happened when Nightwish changed singers. Utterly heinous things were said to all three of the NW singers at various points (Anette received very explicit death threats, even). But something for fans to remember is all three Nightwish singers have publicly supported each other in various small ways. In fact, Floor and Tarja (the one everyone compares her to) have done duets. And I think it's just another case of people trying to pit women against each other to start something. Just my two cents on that.
Just to clarify Floor has never cataloged herself as an opera or classical singer, in fact ..she said she doesn't feel very comfortable and only does it when she really feels it. Floor is soprano, but she never wanted to stagnate his voice in a single style and that's why she has an extremely wide vocal range in a one song she uses his voice in different vocal ranges her versatility is what fans most admire about her and his stage presence .
Seeing what the program is about, what kind of band she plays in and what he asked as return for doing the duet...it's amazing. If she wanted to do a opera version it would be boring and Henk would do what he always does, that's not what the program is about.. th-cam.com/video/UeTyAZtV5wI/w-d-xo.html but she can do it..
@@monsterhunterrivi6303 "live" lol. But yes, it's amazing but I wasn't really happy when I heard she was going to do this. It will never be as good as a opera singer and she could have done something way more spectacular imho.
Linor, don’t be afraid to say you don’t like it. Wrong key in some parts, you heard better performances, etc. It’s ok. What you have to understand is that this is Nightwish arrangements . Many people like it, I like it, others don’t. So what. Cheers 🥂
yeah, i think knowing it is a very different version, purposely, in a lit of ways helps fans of the original accept this as uts own, different experience.
She is not afraid to say her mind ... which is ... in a lack for better words .. WrONG!. Why on EARTH would anyone try to copy the EXACT original arrangement of a song? She is obsessed with only accepting original version of songs. She hated Disturbed's version of "sound of silence" .. because she likes Paul Simon ... - But failed to recognize that the most part of that song is Art Garfunkels voice?! She is a wannabe and a person I have NO respect for at all. And I have watched a lot of voice coaches react videos. I would opt for her videos not to show up in my feeds ... if it was possible. Maybe in the future we can have such channels like this to be shown less ..
WAs waiting for this one for a while. Love your stuff Miss and love your honesty. Saying "I've heard better" is perfectly normal. Respect your opinion a lot. Hope you do some Nightwish stuff at one point :D
HI Linor, I say it for years that D6 is better sounding then E6 in this song. I never did hear a couple like this combination (and i had a couple of 20 to 25 live). Its always the man is starting to high or the woman almost crasping to that high note (so less emotion to tell the story), this has such a emotion in the song, they match perfectly
For the record: I thoroughly enjoy this performance by these two fantastic singers. I find it equally hilarious to see how touchy some NW soldiers are when their goddess is not worshipped with the highest praise, while Linor only has a few mild comments and on balance is very positive. You get what it says on the tin: a well-founded professional opinion about a professional performance. Other singing teachers may have a different opinion and this performance may become the most applauded ever, but this is her opinion. I find it downright weak to attack her personally on that.
Henk adds the distortion for rock/metal effect. Henk on beste zangers did a cover of Disturbed's version of the sound of silence. You should analyze that one. He said he was going to do the distortion like disturbed but that kind of effect is frowned up in the opera world he's from. He wanted to branch out and have fun. He sang that to Floor as Sound of Silence was one of Floors favorite songs growing up.
Her tone is absolutely beautiful, their spin on this is the best I've ever heard . Love their chemistry. She's a soprano goddess.. She can sing anything and live she will blow your mind ! Such a power house .
It's fine to say 'I did hear better', but you neglected to follow up on that remark. You never stated why you heard better or gave an explanation as to what was wrong. Also, you're reviewing this as an operatic singer, while this wasn't an opera version at all. Sure, Henk is an opera singer but Floor isn't. This is a symphonic metal rendition. She sang in an opera like style, that's not the same thing. I think you were too harsh and biased here and you could have done better on explaining what was wrong with their interpretation.
Surely you have to realize that in the world of professional opera, there are better singers in that style than Floor. Floor is probably the most versatile singer and great at any style she sings in, but surely there are singers who have sung opera, or even this song better. I love Floor, but I'm thinking realistically and not as a fanboy.
@@JayTor2112 There's loads of better opera singers than Floor. Floor isn't an opera singer. I bet there aren't many opera singers who can do what Floor can do as far as metal and other styles are concerned, though. I bet there's none. But that's besides the point I was making. This wasn't an opera rendition and shouldn't be judged accordingly.
She wasn't too harsh, she actually gave floor a lot of credit while saying that she heard better. I don't think she needs to tell those who sang it better, because it's not hard to find numerous classical singers who did a far better job and hear the difference.
It wasn't an opera version, yet she was trying to sing opera in many parts of this rendition. Kind of a mixture of the two, and her voice didn't resonate as much as usual while she was at it. It just didn't really work all that great and she was badly over powered during the harmonies.
You are a vocal coach? Well these singers are gratuated and had a full consevartory. I think you have not any clue where you talking about. Floor Jansen is well-known singer of the Nightwish metal band.
I feel you are most honest person doing this reactions. I'm huge Floor fan, but I like how you are not impressed 😄 Keep giving us more rock/metal reactions... I wanna hear what you have to say 👌🏻
This was just them having fun for the show. They put on a great dramatic performance, and got out of their comfort zones. Henk is an idol of Floor's. Henk's Sound of Silence is one of the best highlights from this show.
Nope. This duet, including the Nightwish version of it, was Floor's choice. Henk's demand was that if he agreed to do this duet with Floor he also wanted to sing it with Floor on the Nightwish concert in The Netherlands.
@@joycehill2591, I really hope that performance is professionally recorded. Don't get me wrong, I know Marco has a fantastic voice. I would just really like to see Henk Poort on stage with Nightwish.
I really like how Floor is singing the (and acting out) the "back" in the line "Those who have seen your face, draw back in fear." That really did it for me. I really like their chemistry on stage, and I am one of the lucky ones who will hopefully get to experience it live next year at the Nightwish concert in Amsterdam! A year more to wait, but looking forward to it!
You are the most critical singing coach I have seen. I think that is very good indeed. mainly because the criticism is grounded in reality even if I don't always agree
Henk used that distortion in his voice for the first time ever in this show. First in singing the "Disturbed" arrangement of Simon & Garfunkle's "The Sound of Silence" for Floor in her featured episode, (Henk admitted how nervous he was about that), then here echoing the Nightwish version of "Phantom".
Thank you for your thoughts on the vocals on this song. Do not be afraid to speak your mind on these. People can be really passionate, but I really appreciate the technical aspects you're pointing at and what you thought of the overall experience. I would be curious to see hear your thoughts on the same song performed by Nightwish (as this is the Nightwish score) in their End of an Era tour with their first singer.
I loved your reaction. You were honest and gave your professional opinion. It's important to understand that Floor didn't give the best ever performance of the song, but that she did a fantastic version within her style. She's not an opera singer, but can sing opera. There are probably better versions of this song, but Floor's versatility shines through when you realize she can sing, pop, rock, metal.etc as well.
Please Lenore. React to Nightwish (with tarja turunen) version of the this song. Opera singers reviews of that version always shows a very funny (shocking) but interesting and delightful reaction to Markos hietala interpretation of the phantom and his voice.
Floor is a good singer but for me, this rendition falls short of the one done with Tarja and Night Wish. I notice, to my disappointment, that Floor sings some lyrics that should be sung by Henk, and Henk, some that should be sung by Floor. In addition, I was not a fan of Henk trying to sound like a metal singer. It sounded strained and not natural, nor should it be, it is not his style. While I enjoyed this, I find the version done by Tarja and Night Wish to be better.
you should see the version that Nightwish made many years ago, at that time the singer was tarja (classical singer) with Marco, that's why henk used distortion in his voice in this one. what I like most about that version is in fact the Phantom (something not expected) although I personally keep the voice of Floor over Tarja, because like many Nightwish fans I dont like that Tarja makes some excessive use of her vibrato that's why I can't listen tarja for a long time.. Is a little annoying for me . 😁
You need to see Nightwish version of this song with former singer Tarja Turunen (lyric soprano) from End of an era dvd 2005 ! Floor is amazing singer and i am very happy that she is part of my favorite band \m/ Great reaction!
Hy Linor! I love your Channel! I would love to hear your Reaction to " Aria Di Mezzo Carattere" From Final Fantasy ...live with the Sweden Radio Orchestra! 👍
Experience is the best way to describe this presentation. I appreciate that you could get very technical and picky but as you said the experience here of Floor singing with one of her idols and Henk clearly having a blast doing this duet who cares. They were really in character here and Floor's limited musical theater training always shows even when she is playing with Nightwish in front of 80,000+ fans like at Wacken, as she is always animated and using her hands arms and head (nobody windmills better than Floor). Great reaction and this was the Nightwish score from 2005 (Tarja and Marco) that the studio band used I believe. Hey shout out to this band as they were great on this show doing different genres and always made those songs from different vocalists sound perfect.Sorry this show is over, I like many I came for Floor and was stunned by her presentations but also loved the studio band, the other professionals were great as well and the back stories and how they interacted with one another was real entertainment.
I mean its weird how you didn't realize that this is the metal version that nightwish made? Why would they be supposed to sing a metal version in a classical manner? Weird man...
I love when classical singers review this arrangement, when Henk breaks out the distortion. The look on their faces... :) And it really fits the mood, brings out the "angry" in Henk, which just sells it. A lot of people already knew how flexible Floor's singing is, but Henk showed on this program that he is just as skilled with different styles.
I personally think a lot of Floor fans are idolizing Floor way too much. As if she is the only female singer that is versatile. I believe that a lot of good singers can be versatile as well, it is a matter of trying and dare to step out of their comfortzone. Being versatile is not that big of a deal.
@@komkwam I don't think that Floor is the ONLY versatile vocalist. HOWEVER, I believe her to be THE MOST versatile in the world. her upbringing has some to do with it, she has found herself in a very unique position. IF Floor agreed to go to some worldwide competition where the weather was perfect, nobody was sick, etc, and it was meant to show off versatility and NOT specialization, then Floor wins that competition for the Ladies. For the guys, I give that to Dimash, of course.
@@komkwam Ridiculous? Okay fine. Now, PROVE IT. Give me links for someone you think is MORE VERSATILE of a vocalist. Otherwise, your statement is just as ridiculous. My proof is already out there, everybody knows how to find videos of Floor doing her thing. Now it's your turn.
Dear Linor, at Igor Krutoy's birthday concert in Moscow Dimash sang on his own & a little backstage with Andrea Bocelli playing the keyboard & a duet of Ulisse with Aida Garifullina & a trio of Ti Amo Cosi with Aida & Lara Fabian. PLEASE watch & react to as much as you would like & you can find comments from & to Lara & Dimash on Instagram.
He used the distortion in this song for Floor. He also distorted his voice for Floor on his song Sound of Silence by Disturbed he did it for Floor on her turn.
A metal opera version with belting in some parts would be better. Since she wasn't the best in Opera , full operatic vocal made her sound weak at some part.
What I really like about this video is that you are real do critic's on the video. I have absolutely no pitch and wanna thank you for telling me the pitch of the last tone!
enjoyed your reaction. if any superfans give you grief. Ignore them. in this season, Henk Poort also sang his own version of the Disturbed version of the original Sound of Silence. would love your reaction to that.
A week and noone ... really? Unless you are being sarcastic here acting like you haven't heard the term, it is called a Floorgasm. If so, I bit ... so +1 on the 'troll' post! ;) LOL
I love this review because in my opinion it's 100% spot on; even the *minor* criticisms. I absolutely *adore* Floor and have come to have a ton of respect for Henk through this show. The best opera singing? No of course not...but it's magical anyway. I love how Floor and Henk "swap styles" as it progresses. She goes more classical; he more metal. And for a guy who had NEVER previously put any distortion/growl into his voice (prior to Beste Zangers and his Sound of Silence) he did a helluva job!!!! It's just flat-out wonderful and utterly exciting, even if not "perfect". I think that's what Linor was trying to convey.
I love floor and this is a wonderful presentation. But it would be great if you could react to 'the phantom of the opera' by nightwish with Tarja Turunen (the band's first singer) Who has a very operatic voice. You may like it
What I love most about FLOOR'S singing is her Versatility. She is capable of doing so much Stylistically AND spectacularly. In one song..she can bring a structured classical style..then ethereal softness..then Belting..then Full Out Rock DIVA. She's a Total Singer. That's why she's brought so many of Tuomas' songs to their Highest level. FLOOR is NOT Limited. She's capable of being Electrifying.💯
Hey dear Linor :) Great reaction as always. Floor and Henk sang Nightwishes version of "The Phantom of the Opera". Henk added Distortion to fit a bit of a different role than his usual, me thinks. It may be interesting to listen to Nightwishes version first sang by Tarja Turunen and then Floors "update". I have listened to better opera-singers than Floor - but she is so versatile. She is the overall better singer (one of the best right now) in my opinion.
Please react to Dimash singing Passione you'll be blown away !!! It's a full opera song and you'll notice his incredible countertenor agility in there. It's a masterpiece!!!
Actually, it's not Nightwish's arraignment. It's just a 'Floor' version. It's very different from Nightwish's version as well as from the original musical theater version. Even the vocals are assigned differently. Henk sings a few lines that Tarja sang in her version.
1:19 Dude on the right sums up what it's like to listen to Floor Jansen sing in a single image. It should be noted this was only the second time Henk Poort sang with a metal growl. The first time was in an earlier episode when he sang Disturbed's cover of "The Sound of Silence."
I like how everyone adds something new and something extra to their reactions. With everyone looking at different aspects of the performance it becomes possible to break it down and even learn a bit from it. I don't sing, and I can't sing either, but somehow I feel like I'm at least learning the theory this way haha. Thanks for your reaction. It was fun to watch and see your take on it.
OK....not your 'cup of tea'....that's your prerogative.........BUT your viewers should remember that "The Phantom" is NOT an opera.....it IS a theatrical stage musical by Andrew L. Webber.......as such, to expect a Maria Callas type performance is unreasonable in my opinion.......and to expect a note-for-note 'copy' of the original score defeats the artists' personal arrangement and interpretation of the piece....I find such comparisons, while valid, miss the point
You should check out Nightwish's version to get a better grasp of the structure of this song's version. It's not meant to mirror the original, instead they make it more metal, more about the darkness that the original lacks. They had very minimal rehearsal time and couldn't really get a good composition together to fit it better. I think the music in this piece just doesn't fit the style and kind of takes away from that metal sound and it doesn't mix too well together.
The great thing about "Beste Zangers" is that the musicians are free how they want to make a song sound and then you get sometimes surprises that you do not expect, that is the power of the "Beste Zangers". look for example Og3ne (Ogeene) they sang a song "Sing" by Ed Sheeran where they applied a kind of rap they called this "echoing" th-cam.com/video/VjbfR9NtnNE/w-d-xo.html note: at the end of their performance (4.40) they explain how this works,they are also famous in the Netherlands for their fantastic harmony.
If you where expecting the original your reaction is spot on. They both are able to sing the original no question but it is the nightwish version. Henk is the best still, I saw him in the Dutch version. He was like a father / uncle to all the singers that season. He is funny and professional at the same time. Floor was not wellknown before this program but now she is. She just sang our national anthom at the formule 1 at Zandvoort today and I loved her version.
I know some people wont like that you did not like the beginning, BUT I like that you speak your opinion. I am happy to see in the end that you did however enjoy it. Henk said on the show that adding the distortion to his voice was very hard, and he would be fired immediately if he tried doing it on stage. They changed it up to a more metal version of the song and I respect him so much for taking a leap out of his comfort zone!
I've seen better voice teacher !!! Nobody can hold E6 8 second !!! Nobody !!! Voice Teacher Reacts to & Analyzes: Floor Jansen & Henk Poort "Phantom of the Opera" 👻 Emi Pellegrino I hope You do Phantom of the Opera so we can heard how good You are !!! Emi did it !!!
Yes, finally, I was waiting for you to react to this song. Since I've seen and listen to this WooooooW preformance, I watch a lot of different "Vocal Coaches", don't really know who really is one, or not. I like music very much, if I have the change i listen all day long, and This.....This, This gave me goosbumbs, chickenskin, This Send shivers down my spine ;-) So Thanks for reacting to this Different version of the opera phantom...... And even while I'm Dutch, I'm now looking around for Nightwish, they are Awesome with Floor Jansen.......How is it that I didn't hear from Them or Her before.......Damn..... Grtz from Rotterdam, the Netherlands.
You need to be aware that she's sold millions of albums both solo and as parts of bands. Gold and Platinum multi-platinum albums, multiple albums. Floor Jansen is known worldwide. You'll be lucky if you don't get creamed in the comments. She is classically trained. She teaches voice training. She is now known for symphonic metal. Henk is singing in that style with her.
Floor can reach F6 - they didn't do it in D because of her, it's in D because they're (Nightwish) a metal band and guitars sound extra menacing tuned down from E to D, so it's a common tonic for that type of band to write or arrange to.
“I’ve heard better” Interesting to me that you have issues with Maria Callas and Floor, and you make “I am pretty” sound horrible. I had to switch it off, I couldn’t even figure out what you sang, and that was from a Musical, not even an opera. Your opera is “meh”. You don’t feel what you sing or embody it. Little breath control, running out of air, not sustaining a note. You don’t convey or understand what you are singing, no connection to it and looking like you are taking flight in one piece. You aren’t versatile at all. Did you notice in the “song” you sang in the pink bottom dress you stood like you were trying to fly somewhere. It may be jealousy 🤷🏻♀️ of ppl who don’t sing things like you want it to be sung, I really don’t know. Maria Callas... seriously? A Legend!! Other professional opera singers appreciate the colours Floor project, drawing from different styles. Ever tried to do that? They take it for what it is, I don’t think you can because you don’t or can’t understand how it’s done. Your singing to me is just off (pitch etc) and not that great, just my opinion though, other ppl like you, and they have every right to their opinion. Look at the Charismatic voice Channel, she actually explains things and understands it, she understands it’s metal/rock-ish, and where Floor comes from.
I don't know if you have heard or seen this performance yet. You don't have to make a reaction vid to it. I just wanted to leave this here fro you Linor. FLOOR JANSEN - O MIO BABBINO CARO
I'd really love to hear your review of Beast in Black - Blind and Frozen. Yiannis's voice might SHOCK you! Power Metal is quite close to Symphonic Metal but this guy hits notes above Tenor freely and easily. Maybe even his cover of Ghost Love Score!
1:55 "I did hear better" Amen. She's an incredible singer but her classical technique is just average. I like hearing some honesty instead of blind praises.
She has been a professional singer for what, 20 years now? So for quite some time we know that her day job isn't with the opera. So no, she is not a full-on opera singer. Geez... Get over it.
So like Tarja then? Which is natural, they aren't opera singers. They can use the classical style but wil lnever meaure upto real opera singers in this regard. And no one ever sais she was the best classical singer ever anyway.
@Klojum @Dave Smith @TerranigmaQuintet Why are you all so defensive? OP said she's an incredible singer and that her classical technique is average. No one is perfect at every genre and he's just stating that fact. Calm down.
Well they blew me away when I first watched that video. Floor has been fangirling Henk since she was a little girl so there is no surprise at how happy she is singing with him. Now Linor I too have relative perfect pitch in that I cannot tell, listening to a piano, which note is an A flat or a C sharp but I can hear sharps and flats and I do not hear any off-key notes from either Floor or Henk in this performance. Do you hear any? In fact I watched the whole Wacken 2013 concert and she was never off pitch that I could hear and that was her first big concert with Nightwish after Tuomas invited her to sing with them. She had no floor monitors in front of her during Wacken which made her notes even more incredibly perfect so apparently Floor, unlike you and me, does have real perfect pitch. BTW did you notice how much taller Floor is than Henk? She was a competitive bodybuilder in her youth(now retired) and she is 6'2" and at least 200-210lbs. Henk is probably 5'10"-5'11" and stout, maybe similar weight, not sure. I enjoy coming here to watch your videos because you are a good analyst and you have a very strong command of English, with your cute Dutch accent. And besides, you are deliciously pretty, so there's that... :D
This is Floor and Hanks version. It's not meant to be an exact copy of the original.. they made it their own... it's absolutely amazing !!!... you are beyond too critical .
It's there take on the song Einstein it's not suppose to sound like the original. Let's hear you do better Miss Perfect. You must be levitating above the rest of the singer reactions. Kids if you want to be the best singer obviously this teacher can take you to the heights of Floor Jansen. I wise man once said "Those who can't, teach" and your clearly in this category. I expect I'll be hearing your name as a superstar in the future...oh wait you didn't make it.😅
These two will be performing this at a Nightwish gig in the Netherlands some time next year... And it will probably be an epic performance of this with full on power of Nightwish to back up the powerful singing chops these people possess.
Dear Linor, i can understand it can be tough for you to comment on a « pop » performance like this one when you have operatic roots and background. But you do it with respect and happily say the things with your handsome smile ! ... yes, you are so professionnal, a pretty and classy woman. Keep on being what you are ! You make a good work. Thank you !
I'm currently putting out a lot of stuff about improving as a singer on my website singwell.eu. So if you want to become a better singer, that's for you.
Henk is 63 and he used distortion for the second time in his life, he said it was a big no no for Opera singers, First time he did it with "The Sound Of Silence" on this show for Floor 👀
Gosh you look gorgeous, great video analysis. Since you have a lot of experience in opera music I strongly suggest Ulisse with Aída Garifúllina at VTB Arena
This is the version of the Phantom of the Opera from Nighwish. ( Metal band) Henk poort is an opera Singer.
"I've heard better"? I hope you know she's a metal singer right? So can you name 1 opra singer that can sing metal?
@@mandymaessen-vandelaar2404 Linor is giving her opinion from her years of vocal training and studies.
I just discovered Renee Fleming..go listen to THAT voice.
Linor was just being very honest..Opera singers are vocal masters..it's unbelievable the amount of
training to create the right sounds flawlessly..
Floor is one of the best singers I've ever heard..but she's NOT a expert Opera singer..
If Floor went the full opera route I'm sure she would be up there but not yet..
Now listen to this ladies high note at the end...
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This is the Nightwish arrangement of the song. Henk put the distortion in his voice just for Floor. So sweet!
Plus the fact that for the programme format every song must squeezed to 3 minutes.
@jorluo They more or less copied Nightwish arrangement. Nothing wrong with that though :)
@@juhanikyllonen1899 Floor is the current singer of nightwish.
@@MegaThexmaster WOW really ??? ;)
@@juhanikyllonen1899 Yaass.
Please feel free to just say you've heard better. Floor is not an opera singer. Henk has been her idol as a kid, and she really wanted to do this rendition of the song she usually plays with her band Nightwish with her idol from opera. This was basically a guilty pleasure, and I think they both sounded and acted amazing. Love that it's mostly for fun.
Besides, they met at the show and just decided to do Phantom. It's not like they practiced together for months for a musical.
I don't know why people are so negative about saying "This isn't the best version of something" like it could still be very very good, but if you've heard better somewhere... Like there are so many performances and chances are that somewhere there is a better one.
What I Love about Floor's VOICE and Style is that it's a sort of Hybrid. This Versatility is what makes her Singing so Captivating. Unlike her NIGHTWISH predecessors Who were stylistically Limited. Floor is Dynamic, Capable & Beautifully Versatile...that's Why She's brought Tuomas' songs to their highest level of expression.
Best version ever!
Just so you guys know. I am the best singer in the world and I say that this is the best version ever. So please shut up 😂
henk is a idol of floor. he is one of te reasons for her to go into music. its just a song among two friends not a classical concour
Linor, don't be afraid to speak out. That's what I expect from voice teachers and professional singers. To give their true opinion.
The only thing is, you say 'I heard better' and then it stopped... I hoped you also would explain compared to what or whom or in which way. That's the information I like to hear. Same goes for Henk when you see "not the freeest i've ever heard. It may be my lack of knowledge of the singing techniques, but iI don't know what you mean by that.I would love to have some more clarification.
For the rest, keep up the good work.
I hate leaving you hanging like this not knowing what I meant. Thanks for the encouragement BTW. I thought, and said indirectly, that she was not really singing fully and letting her voice flow. You can see that in her jaw which sometimes shakes.
About Henk, it sounds like his vibrato (and his voice in general) is made with some effort, while the kind that I prefer is when there is free airflow and the sounds just vibrates on its own without extra tension :) Hope this helps
@@linororen Ok. Thank you for the follow-up.
I totally agree, I can watch a bunch of other ‘reactors’ and hear how they loved it as much as I do, but with vocal coaches and singers, I want to hear a full opinion.
On the other hand, I also understand how toxic the comment sections can get. Especially when it’s someone and a performance they loved.
I enjoyed your reaction, and appreciated your follow-up comment to the question in this thread. Keep being honest about how you’re feeling and hearing what you’re watching/listening to. I’ll take an honest critique over someone trying to please the fan base anytime.
Linor Oren - voice teacher sorry but thats so not true and i know manny have the same but jaw Shake is not bad
@@okidoki878 agree 👍 and I saw one vocal coach who explain about it !
"I've heard better". Indeed, there are better female opera singers. And maybe this performance was more a metal version.
But how many of those better female opera singers can also add a proper distortion to their singing voice?
And how many of them can do proper growls? Most of them (if not all) are simply stuck in their opera voice.
Not to mention stage presence before 80K+ people. It's hard to compete with a 6'1" versatile singer who can do it all.
Practice, versatility, and a heavy focus on physical and vocal health is what makes Floor Jansen one of the best singers in the world. She is not an opera singer, but for a rock singer she sounds pretty darn good singing opera!
@Klojum, did she hurt your love? I have Floor as one of my favorite singers. But come on! She did a great job on this but it was not a master piece. But I must say that I really like Floor as a singer, her ability to go from style to style and do it great. The growl thing I dont know I'm no expert on that. But I think she sounds great.
@@Grizzlox, or musical theater... like in this case.
Give a better cover of this song, I did hear some before and a good one is the nightwish version with Tarja and Marko
@@FERNANDOAUGUSTO-fv1ck i prefer this version. And i hope that next year Henk Poort will do this duet with Floor and Nightwish in the Ziggodome Amsterdam and i know for sure that will be a better version than what you mention.
To answer your question about the end of the second verse, where they are singing together: Floor is up a full step from the original key, while Henk is singing in the original key.
By the way, Andrew Lloyd Webber, the Phantom composer, is reported as saying that the only person he could see ever playing the Phantom is Henk Poort.
In the Dutch rendition of The Phantom, Henk Poort is the actual Phantom of the Opera.
What i like best about this adjusted version (NightWish arrangement) is that Floor the Metal Queen, stays in a more classical routine, while its the Opera star Henk, who opens up the "Rock tabs" so to speak, switching the roles they normally would have.
They indeed started this in a slightly lower range, likely to bring that darker atmosphere, and as a bit of a safety measure, Floor can hold D6 with ease (she did here) but the original E6, is still in her reach btw, but its not a note you always hit, no matter how good one is. And (not the case here) in the musical itself, the high E6 is actually recorded, and rarely sung live because its a killer on the vocal cords and near impossible to pull of night after night, so its a sort of safety measure.(fun facts lol)
I love how Floor and Henk are in character for this performance, and it was very visible they had a great time doing it :)
Thnx for the upload Linor :D
IMHOin this case it is also more that it follows up a long build up that isn't easy to do at all either. If all she had to do is that one end scream, I am certain she could hve hit an E6, but in this case it likely were too risky to attempt, and prolly wouldn't last nearly as long as this D6 either.
@@TerranigmaQuintet yes, i have no doubt Floor could hit the E6, but she didnt need to go for it, the arrangement was perfect as it was for me, and the 8 or 9 seconds D6? makes up for any 3 seconds E6 :P
Christines part at the beginning is actually up the octave from the original ;) i can't comment on single notes later in the piece though, as i'm just an amateur sound tech without perfect pitch, so i would need my tools for that ;)
@@caligo7918 same here :P
I actually come here because you are ... picky.
It makes me understand the music more.
This version was the Nightwish version, which is indeed slightly different from the original.Henk is 63 now, he did the Phantom around 1994.
He took a two-hour lesson to learn the distortion technique for Sound of Silence, earlier in the show.
Thanks man, it means a lot you say that
To add on, Henk only agreed to do this duet if he got to join Nightwish when they are in the Netherlands on the next tour. I believe he’s also going to be at the 6 (I think it was 6) solo shows Floor is doing in the next few months, as is the house band (their name escapes me at the moment).
As much as I enjoyed this version, I’m really interested in hearing Marco and Floor performing the NW arrangement. I am curious to see if Henk can master the distortion he was using.
@@syyneater The solo shows are now up to 12 now. They all sold out within 24 hours.
Lets hope Nightwish brings out the camera crew to the Ziggo dome shows.
Since they added a second show there as well.
Damn I wish I lived in Europe.
Douglas Campbell you and me both!
@@douglascampbell9809 12 Solo shows? As far as I can find 10.
Honesty is the best policy & I'm sure every true music lover can take it. Also, as this wasn't the original Andrew Lloyd Webber, but Nightwish's metal version of the song, I guess they had to adjust their vocals accordingly.
This show isn't about making a copie of the original version. It's about making their own (fantastic) version.
Yeah perfect comment. Who expects a metal queen and a musical king to do the same boring thing that’s been sung the same way for 1000 years. This is basically a cover song, and those should always be made to be YOUR OWN spin on it. That’s how I see it anyway. And the fact that hank learned distortion to sing this THEIR WAY, shit that’s like the sweetest and coolest thing ever. She was beaming and over the moon doing this with him. And I’m so glad they continue to do it when she’s touring solo at home. I mean who gets to be best friends with their idol from when they were little.
Thank you for this reaction! I’ve been looking forward to it since this song was released. I agree with you 💯. This isn’t the best operatic version I’ve heard, but this isn’t an operatic version, it’s a rock version done by a metal singer with (by her own admission) minimal classical training. What an amazing performance by Floor & Henk. A stunning rendition which left its immediate audience stunned & standing. Bravo! ❤️
Floor and Henk had a short amount of time to make this song their own. Not months and months of rehearsing or whatever. I think it was awesome. Floor is a metal singer with an incredable voice. Her pitch was D6 I heard from another vocal coach. Henk performed the role of the Phantom a few years but that was in the early 90S. To perform it in this way was one of the best live performances I have heard in years. But to each their own. If you were not blown away by it, I respect that.
Henk Poort has acording to himself sdone 30 Operas, 26 Operettas and about 10 musicals and some acting, Ever since Floor heared him sing in the dutch "Phantom" she has been a fangirl 😍🐱👤👍 He is a Bariton but alsoo sings Tenor when the part asks for it. He has lived in Italy for 15 years and met Andrea Bocelli there, before he was famous I think.
The Bocelli link was why the duet with Emma Heesters was Vivo Per Lei, I believe.
Floor has never claimed to be an opera singer. She only has 1 year of classical training and by her own admission doesn't really enjoy doing it. I personally couldn't be happier that she stays away from a lot of classical singing because I can only take it in small doses. I definitely like it more than growling, but if she never did either again I would be ok with it. As a final note this, to me, is the most entertaining performance of this song I've ever seen and I've seen the North America tour twice and many others performances on TH-cam. In this performance they really made a connection and took a unique approach which is what I look for in live performances. I can hear the original anytime so why should I settle for someone reproducing it in exact detail. If Floor did that we wouldn't have got the last note for an eight count and that was absolutely kickass!
Yeah. Her opera training is purely for technique and for something to interject into her normal music. She uses it to great effect, but she doesn't enjoy doing it too much.
I disagree completely, she used a lot of classical style singing in after forever and it was awesome. Its her versatility that makes her awesome.
I don't know where this "information" comes from that she doesn't like or enjoy singing in this style. In fact she quite recently stated that she enjoys singing in the "classical style" quite a lot, but she only uses it where she thinks it fits in. She only mentioned on several occasions that she doesn't particularly like classical music as such, where I think this mostly refers to listening to it.
She used this singing style a lot in After Forever and ReVamp, where she had at least part control over the songwriting (in ReVamp she was the "creative director"), so it was really up to her to do it or not, and I'm pretty sure no one forced her ;) Her latest statement was that by her performances in Beste Zangers (this one and the Vilja-Lied in particular) she hopes to give a bit of "candy" to those fans who keep complaining that she doesn't use this style enough in Nightwish.
kanker muziek
She start the show with the Vilja song in german and she even sings O Mio Babbino Caro on tv and from the gamecube game Final Fantasy Chronicals she sings Sound of the Wind...
Floor did some classical training, but ended up stopping her lessons. She may draw on the style from time to time, but she doesn't want classical to be her identity and prefers to mix styles. I think she'd probably even agree with what you said that there are better classical versions of the song (I'm sure a mix was her goal here as always). I think people get very defensive of her because of what has happened when Nightwish changed singers. Utterly heinous things were said to all three of the NW singers at various points (Anette received very explicit death threats, even). But something for fans to remember is all three Nightwish singers have publicly supported each other in various small ways. In fact, Floor and Tarja (the one everyone compares her to) have done duets. And I think it's just another case of people trying to pit women against each other to start something. Just my two cents on that.
You got it!
This was a version based on the style of the Nightwish recording, which was done several years ago with the 1st singer from Nightwish.
Yeeees thank you 👍👍👍 Floor Jansen vilja lied pleeeeaaase
Just to clarify
Floor has never cataloged herself as an opera or classical singer, in fact ..she said she doesn't feel very comfortable and only does it when she really feels it.
Floor is soprano, but she never wanted to stagnate his voice in a single style and that's why she has an extremely wide vocal range
in a one song she uses his voice in different vocal ranges
her versatility is what fans most admire about her and his stage presence .
Seeing what the program is about, what kind of band she plays in and what he asked as return for doing the duet...it's amazing.
If she wanted to do a opera version it would be boring and Henk would do what he always does, that's not what the program is about.. th-cam.com/video/UeTyAZtV5wI/w-d-xo.html but she can do it..
versatility, and the crazy amount of power she puts behind it as well and my god does is she good live
@@monsterhunterrivi6303 "live" lol. But yes, it's amazing but I wasn't really happy when I heard she was going to do this. It will never be as good as a opera singer and she could have done something way more spectacular imho.
@@JHX1 Like singing 5 songs in 5 languages and nailing them all?
@@JHX1 Floor did, on this show
Linor, don’t be afraid to say you don’t like it. Wrong key in some parts, you heard better performances, etc. It’s ok. What you have to understand is that this is Nightwish arrangements . Many people like it, I like it, others don’t. So what. Cheers 🥂
yeah, i think knowing it is a very different version, purposely, in a lit of ways helps fans of the original accept this as uts own, different experience.
She is not afraid to say her mind ... which is ... in a lack for better words .. WrONG!.
Why on EARTH would anyone try to copy the EXACT original arrangement of a song? She is obsessed with only accepting original version of songs. She hated Disturbed's version of "sound of silence" .. because she likes Paul Simon ... - But failed to recognize that the most part of that song is Art Garfunkels voice?!
She is a wannabe and a person I have NO respect for at all. And I have watched a lot of voice coaches react videos. I would opt for her videos not to show up in my feeds ... if it was possible. Maybe in the future we can have such channels like this to be shown less ..
@@dreem1walker Dear lord, man, take a step back and give yourself a shake. If that doesn't work, there's always medication.
WAs waiting for this one for a while. Love your stuff Miss and love your honesty. Saying "I've heard better" is perfectly normal. Respect your opinion a lot. Hope you do some Nightwish stuff at one point :D
you should react to henk poort singing sound of silence at the same show
Oh yes ! I think that song was a favourite from Linor
she already did a reaction for this song a year ago and it didnt went well :D:D doubt she will do it again :D
@@Ludwig123179 Except that it's Henk! :)
HI Linor, I say it for years that D6 is better sounding then E6 in this song. I never did hear a couple like this combination (and i had a couple of 20 to 25 live). Its always the man is starting to high or the woman almost crasping to that high note (so less emotion to tell the story), this has such a emotion in the song, they match perfectly
For the record: I thoroughly enjoy this performance by these two fantastic singers. I find it equally hilarious to see how touchy some NW soldiers are when their goddess is not worshipped with the highest praise, while Linor only has a few mild comments and on balance is very positive. You get what it says on the tin: a well-founded professional opinion about a professional performance. Other singing teachers may have a different opinion and this performance may become the most applauded ever, but this is her opinion. I find it downright weak to attack her personally on that.
Henk adds the distortion for rock/metal effect. Henk on beste zangers did a cover of Disturbed's version of the sound of silence. You should analyze that one. He said he was going to do the distortion like disturbed but that kind of effect is frowned up in the opera world he's from. He wanted to branch out and have fun. He sang that to Floor as Sound of Silence was one of Floors favorite songs growing up.
I love that they combined her metal background and his opera background. It's gorgeous
Her tone is absolutely beautiful, their spin on this is the best I've ever heard . Love their chemistry. She's a soprano goddess.. She can sing anything and live she will blow your mind ! Such a power house .
It's fine to say 'I did hear better', but you neglected to follow up on that remark. You never stated why you heard better or gave an explanation as to what was wrong.
Also, you're reviewing this as an operatic singer, while this wasn't an opera version at all. Sure, Henk is an opera singer but Floor isn't. This is a symphonic metal rendition. She sang in an opera like style, that's not the same thing. I think you were too harsh and biased here and you could have done better on explaining what was wrong with their interpretation.
George Jansen She’s no vocal coach, she has no clue as to what she’s watching.
Surely you have to realize that in the world of professional opera, there are better singers in that style than Floor. Floor is probably the most versatile singer and great at any style she sings in, but surely there are singers who have sung opera, or even this song better. I love Floor, but I'm thinking realistically and not as a fanboy.
@@JayTor2112 There's loads of better opera singers than Floor. Floor isn't an opera singer. I bet there aren't many opera singers who can do what Floor can do as far as metal and other styles are concerned, though. I bet there's none. But that's besides the point I was making. This wasn't an opera rendition and shouldn't be judged accordingly.
She wasn't too harsh, she actually gave floor a lot of credit while saying that she heard better. I don't think she needs to tell those who sang it better, because it's not hard to find numerous classical singers who did a far better job and hear the difference.
It wasn't an opera version, yet she was trying to sing opera in many parts of this rendition. Kind of a mixture of the two, and her voice didn't resonate as much as usual while she was at it. It just didn't really work all that great and she was badly over powered during the harmonies.
You are a vocal coach? Well these singers are gratuated and had a full consevartory. I think you have not any clue where you talking about. Floor Jansen is well-known singer of the Nightwish metal band.
Yep, you don't sound petty at all.
I feel you are most honest person doing this reactions. I'm huge Floor fan, but I like how you are not impressed 😄 Keep giving us more rock/metal reactions... I wanna hear what you have to say 👌🏻
This was nice. Now you have to do Nightwish version, Phantom of the opera (End of an Era).
Praise our Queen Tarja 🙏
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This was just them having fun for the show. They put on a great dramatic performance, and got out of their comfort zones. Henk is an idol of Floor's.
Henk's Sound of Silence is one of the best highlights from this show.
They are doing Nightwish's version here, I think it's on Henk's demand
Nope. This duet, including the Nightwish version of it, was Floor's choice. Henk's demand was that if he agreed to do this duet with Floor he also wanted to sing it with Floor on the Nightwish concert in The Netherlands.
@@rikvanommen9564 And it's gonna happen. Already sold out, I believe.
@@joycehill2591, I really hope that performance is professionally recorded. Don't get me wrong, I know Marco has a fantastic voice. I would just really like to see Henk Poort on stage with Nightwish.
@@horseshoe_nc Yeah, it would be a shame if it wasn't filmed for all to see.
I really like how Floor is singing the (and acting out) the "back" in the line "Those who have seen your face, draw back in fear." That really did it for me. I really like their chemistry on stage, and I am one of the lucky ones who will hopefully get to experience it live next year at the Nightwish concert in Amsterdam! A year more to wait, but looking forward to it!
See you there...november 2020😉
You are the most critical singing coach I have seen.
I think that is very good indeed.
mainly because the criticism is grounded in reality
even if I don't always agree
Henk used that distortion in his voice for the first time ever in this show. First in singing the "Disturbed" arrangement of Simon & Garfunkle's "The Sound of Silence" for Floor in her featured episode, (Henk admitted how nervous he was about that), then here echoing the Nightwish version of "Phantom".
Thank you for your thoughts on the vocals on this song. Do not be afraid to speak your mind on these. People can be really passionate, but I really appreciate the technical aspects you're pointing at and what you thought of the overall experience.
I would be curious to see hear your thoughts on the same song performed by Nightwish (as this is the Nightwish score) in their End of an Era tour with their first singer.
I loved your reaction. You were honest and gave your professional opinion. It's important to understand that Floor didn't give the best ever performance of the song, but that she did a fantastic version within her style. She's not an opera singer, but can sing opera. There are probably better versions of this song, but Floor's versatility shines through when you realize she can sing, pop, rock, metal.etc as well.
Yes, agreed! :)
Please Lenore. React to Nightwish (with tarja turunen) version of the this song. Opera singers reviews of that version always shows a very funny (shocking) but interesting and delightful reaction to Markos hietala interpretation of the phantom and his voice.
Floor is a good singer but for me, this rendition falls short of the one done with Tarja and Night Wish. I notice, to my disappointment, that Floor sings some lyrics that should be sung by Henk, and Henk, some that should be sung by Floor. In addition, I was not a fan of Henk trying to sound like a metal singer. It sounded strained and not natural, nor should it be, it is not his style. While I enjoyed this, I find the version done by Tarja and Night Wish to be better.
this is the nightwish version they're singing, not the original
Joey De Haeck
Excactly !
I am obsessed with Floor, thanks for reacting to this !
you should see the version that Nightwish made many years ago,
at that time the singer was tarja
(classical singer) with Marco, that's why henk used distortion in his voice in this one.
what I like most about that version is in fact the Phantom (something not expected) although I personally keep the voice of Floor over Tarja, because like many Nightwish fans I dont like that Tarja makes some excessive use of her vibrato
that's why I can't listen tarja for a long time..
Is a little annoying for me . 😁
The chemistry here is what make it work. This is not a recital; this is a performance.
Would you like to react Dimash Kudaibergen Voice range video? :D I mean guy who can sing D8 is quite a human being :D
You need to see Nightwish version of this song with former singer Tarja Turunen (lyric soprano) from End of an era dvd 2005 ! Floor is amazing singer and i am very happy that she is part of my favorite band \m/ Great reaction!
Tarja does such a good job in End of an Era considering she was sick 👌
@@rachelt101 For me she is always perfect
YES!!!
Hy Linor! I love your Channel! I would love to hear your Reaction to " Aria Di Mezzo Carattere" From Final Fantasy ...live with the Sweden Radio Orchestra! 👍
Experience is the best way to describe this presentation. I appreciate that you could get very technical and picky but as you said the experience here of Floor singing with one of her idols and Henk clearly having a blast doing this duet who cares. They were really in character here and Floor's limited musical theater training always shows even when she is playing with Nightwish in front of 80,000+ fans like at Wacken, as she is always animated and using her hands arms and head (nobody windmills better than Floor). Great reaction and this was the Nightwish score from 2005 (Tarja and Marco) that the studio band used I believe. Hey shout out to this band as they were great on this show doing different genres and always made those songs from different vocalists sound perfect.Sorry this show is over, I like many I came for Floor and was stunned by her presentations but also loved the studio band, the other professionals were great as well and the back stories and how they interacted with one another was real entertainment.
Totally agree, the band did an amazing job working through all the different styles and arrangements!
I mean its weird how you didn't realize that this is the metal version that nightwish made? Why would they be supposed to sing a metal version in a classical manner? Weird man...
I love when classical singers review this arrangement, when Henk breaks out the distortion. The look on their faces... :)
And it really fits the mood, brings out the "angry" in Henk, which just sells it. A lot of people already knew how flexible Floor's singing is, but Henk showed on this program that he is just as skilled with different styles.
I personally think a lot of Floor fans are idolizing Floor way too much. As if she is the only female singer that is versatile. I believe that a lot of good singers can be versatile as well, it is a matter of trying and dare to step out of their comfortzone.
Being versatile is not that big of a deal.
@@komkwam I don't think that Floor is the ONLY versatile vocalist. HOWEVER, I believe her to be THE MOST versatile in the world. her upbringing has some to do with it, she has found herself in a very unique position.
IF Floor agreed to go to some worldwide competition where the weather was perfect, nobody was sick, etc, and it was meant to show off versatility and NOT specialization, then Floor wins that competition for the Ladies. For the guys, I give that to Dimash, of course.
@@jamescurfman3284 Saying Floor is the most versatile singer in the world is a ridiculous thing to say.
@@komkwam Ridiculous? Okay fine. Now, PROVE IT. Give me links for someone you think is MORE VERSATILE of a vocalist. Otherwise, your statement is just as ridiculous. My proof is already out there, everybody knows how to find videos of Floor doing her thing. Now it's your turn.
@@jamescurfman3284 no response I guess 😂
Linor isn't very impressed with Floor.
Dear Linor, at Igor Krutoy's birthday concert in Moscow Dimash sang on his own & a little backstage with Andrea Bocelli playing the keyboard & a duet of Ulisse with Aida Garifullina & a trio of Ti Amo Cosi with Aida & Lara Fabian. PLEASE watch & react to as much as you would like & you can find comments from & to Lara & Dimash on Instagram.
He used the distortion in this song for Floor. He also distorted his voice for Floor on his song Sound of Silence by Disturbed he did it for Floor on her turn.
A metal opera version with belting in some parts would be better. Since she wasn't the best in Opera , full operatic vocal made her sound weak at some part.
What I really like about this video is that you are real do critic's on the video. I have absolutely no pitch and wanna thank you for telling me the pitch of the last tone!
You must be the only person reviewing this song that isn't totally floored. Pun intended,
enjoyed your reaction. if any superfans give you grief. Ignore them.
in this season, Henk Poort also sang his own version of the Disturbed version of the original Sound of Silence. would love your reaction to that.
Floor's voice gives my body a Euphoric experience every time, like a form of Ecstasy
A week and noone ... really? Unless you are being sarcastic here acting like you haven't heard the term, it is called a Floorgasm. If so, I bit ... so +1 on the 'troll' post! ;) LOL
yup, this is the Nightwish version. Amazing!
I love this review because in my opinion it's 100% spot on; even the *minor* criticisms. I absolutely *adore* Floor and have come to have a ton of respect for Henk through this show. The best opera singing? No of course not...but it's magical anyway. I love how Floor and Henk "swap styles" as it progresses. She goes more classical; he more metal. And for a guy who had NEVER previously put any distortion/growl into his voice (prior to Beste Zangers and his Sound of Silence) he did a helluva job!!!! It's just flat-out wonderful and utterly exciting, even if not "perfect". I think that's what Linor was trying to convey.
Yes, perfectly said. :)
The Swinging is very Good..... Yes of course...!
I love floor and this is a wonderful presentation. But it would be great if you could react to 'the phantom of the opera' by nightwish with Tarja Turunen (the band's first singer) Who has a very operatic voice. You may like it
100% this
What I love most about FLOOR'S singing is her Versatility. She is capable of doing so much Stylistically AND spectacularly. In one song..she can bring a structured classical style..then ethereal softness..then Belting..then Full Out Rock DIVA. She's a Total Singer. That's why she's brought so many of Tuomas' songs to their Highest level. FLOOR is NOT Limited. She's capable of being Electrifying.💯
Your videos always make me smile! You seem to really know what you’re talking about!
they pretty much nailed it ? They nailed it !
Hey dear Linor :) Great reaction as always.
Floor and Henk sang Nightwishes version of "The Phantom of the Opera". Henk added Distortion to fit a bit of a different role than his usual, me thinks.
It may be interesting to listen to Nightwishes version first sang by Tarja Turunen and then Floors "update".
I have listened to better opera-singers than Floor - but she is so versatile. She is the overall better singer (one of the best right now) in my opinion.
Please react to Dimash singing Passione you'll be blown away !!! It's a full opera song and you'll notice his incredible countertenor agility in there. It's a masterpiece!!!
this is the version they play with Nightwish.so its slightly difrent than the original musical version
Actually, it's not Nightwish's arraignment. It's just a 'Floor' version. It's very different from Nightwish's version as well as from the original musical theater version. Even the vocals are assigned differently. Henk sings a few lines that Tarja sang in her version.
1:19 Dude on the right sums up what it's like to listen to Floor Jansen sing in a single image.
It should be noted this was only the second time Henk Poort sang with a metal growl. The first time was in an earlier episode when he sang Disturbed's cover of "The Sound of Silence."
Why you want it to sound like opera it is not
I read the comments first and braced myself for a sourpuss, but got what it says on the tin: an expert opinion. And a positive one at that! Thx.
I appreciate your honesty and really professional remarks
I like how everyone adds something new and something extra to their reactions. With everyone looking at different aspects of the performance it becomes possible to break it down and even learn a bit from it. I don't sing, and I can't sing either, but somehow I feel like I'm at least learning the theory this way haha.
Thanks for your reaction. It was fun to watch and see your take on it.
Let me ask you, can you hit a D6 and hold it for 8 seconds? Case closed. "Queen to D6 CHECKMATE"
OK....not your 'cup of tea'....that's your prerogative.........BUT your viewers should remember that "The Phantom" is NOT an opera.....it IS a theatrical stage musical by Andrew L. Webber.......as such, to expect a Maria Callas type performance is unreasonable in my opinion.......and to expect a note-for-note 'copy' of the original score defeats the artists' personal arrangement and interpretation of the piece....I find such comparisons, while valid, miss the point
This is different because Floor is a metal singer and he was doing it in that style. Nightwish has done this song in metal version before Floor
You should check out Nightwish's version to get a better grasp of the structure of this song's version. It's not meant to mirror the original, instead they make it more metal, more about the darkness that the original lacks.
They had very minimal rehearsal time and couldn't really get a good composition together to fit it better. I think the music in this piece just doesn't fit the style and kind of takes away from that metal sound and it doesn't mix too well together.
The great thing about "Beste Zangers" is that the musicians are free how they want to make a song sound and then you get sometimes surprises that you do not expect, that is the power of the "Beste Zangers".
look for example Og3ne (Ogeene) they sang a song "Sing" by Ed Sheeran where they applied a kind of rap they called this "echoing" th-cam.com/video/VjbfR9NtnNE/w-d-xo.html note: at the end of their performance (4.40) they explain how this works,they are also famous in the Netherlands for their fantastic harmony.
If you where expecting the original your reaction is spot on. They both are able to sing the original no question but it is the nightwish version. Henk is the best still, I saw him in the Dutch version. He was like a father / uncle to all the singers that season. He is funny and professional at the same time. Floor was not wellknown before this program but now she is. She just sang our national anthom at the formule 1 at Zandvoort today and I loved her version.
I know some people wont like that you did not like the beginning, BUT I like that you speak your opinion. I am happy to see in the end that you did however enjoy it.
Henk said on the show that adding the distortion to his voice was very hard, and he would be fired immediately if he tried doing it on stage. They changed it up to a more metal version of the song and I respect him so much for taking a leap out of his comfort zone!
I've seen better voice teacher !!!
Nobody can hold E6 8 second !!! Nobody !!!
Voice Teacher Reacts to & Analyzes: Floor Jansen & Henk Poort "Phantom of the Opera" 👻
Emi Pellegrino
I hope You do Phantom of the Opera so we can heard how good You are !!!
Emi did it !!!
Yes, finally, I was waiting for you to react to this song.
Since I've seen and listen to this WooooooW preformance, I watch a lot of different "Vocal Coaches", don't really know who really is one, or not.
I like music very much, if I have the change i listen all day long, and This.....This, This gave me goosbumbs, chickenskin, This Send shivers down my spine ;-)
So Thanks for reacting to this Different version of the opera phantom......
And even while I'm Dutch, I'm now looking around for Nightwish, they are Awesome with Floor Jansen.......How is it that I didn't hear from Them or Her before.......Damn.....
Grtz from Rotterdam, the Netherlands.
You need to be aware that she's sold millions of albums both solo and as parts of bands. Gold and Platinum multi-platinum albums, multiple albums. Floor Jansen is known worldwide. You'll be lucky if you don't get creamed in the comments. She is classically trained. She teaches voice training. She is now known for symphonic metal. Henk is singing in that style with her.
I would like very much if you reacted to Jinjer's "Pisces", live studio version. Thank you for your videos. 🙂
It’s like this lady is fighting with herself to give a compliment because of how Floor looks and how this isn’t an original.
Floor can reach F6 - they didn't do it in D because of her, it's in D because they're (Nightwish) a metal band and guitars sound extra menacing tuned down from E to D, so it's a common tonic for that type of band to write or arrange to.
“I’ve heard better” Interesting to me that you have issues with Maria Callas and Floor, and you make “I am pretty” sound horrible. I had to switch it off, I couldn’t even figure out what you sang, and that was from a Musical, not even an opera.
Your opera is “meh”. You don’t feel what you sing or embody it. Little breath control, running out of air, not sustaining a note. You don’t convey or understand what you are singing, no connection to it and looking like you are taking flight in one piece. You aren’t versatile at all. Did you notice in the “song” you sang in the pink bottom dress you stood like you were trying to fly somewhere.
It may be jealousy 🤷🏻♀️ of ppl who don’t sing things like you want it to be sung, I really don’t know. Maria Callas... seriously? A Legend!! Other professional opera singers appreciate the colours Floor project, drawing from different styles. Ever tried to do that? They take it for what it is, I don’t think you can because you don’t or can’t understand how it’s done.
Your singing to me is just off (pitch etc) and not that great, just my opinion though, other ppl like you, and they have every right to their opinion.
Look at the Charismatic voice Channel, she actually explains things and understands it, she understands it’s metal/rock-ish, and where Floor comes from.
I don't know if you have heard or seen this performance yet. You don't have to make a reaction vid to it. I just wanted to leave this here fro you Linor. FLOOR JANSEN - O MIO BABBINO CARO
I'd really love to hear your review of Beast in Black - Blind and Frozen. Yiannis's voice might SHOCK you! Power Metal is quite close to Symphonic Metal but this guy hits notes above Tenor freely and easily. Maybe even his cover of Ghost Love Score!
1:55 "I did hear better"
Amen. She's an incredible singer but her classical technique is just average. I like hearing some honesty instead of blind praises.
She has been a professional singer for what, 20 years now?
So for quite some time we know that her day job isn't with the opera.
So no, she is not a full-on opera singer. Geez... Get over it.
Lol...she isn't an opera singer....at all. She can sing in an operatic style but not an opera singer. She makes millions singing metal music.
So like Tarja then? Which is natural, they aren't opera singers. They can use the classical style but wil lnever meaure upto real opera singers in this regard. And no one ever sais she was the best classical singer ever anyway.
@Klojum @Dave Smith @TerranigmaQuintet Why are you all so defensive? OP said she's an incredible singer and that her classical technique is average. No one is perfect at every genre and he's just stating that fact. Calm down.
@@MechMonstrosity 10-4
Well they blew me away when I first watched that video. Floor has been fangirling Henk since she was a little girl so there is no surprise at how happy she is singing with him. Now Linor I too have relative perfect pitch in that I cannot tell, listening to a piano, which note is an A flat or a C sharp but I can hear sharps and flats and I do not hear any off-key notes from either Floor or Henk in this performance. Do you hear any?
In fact I watched the whole Wacken 2013 concert and she was never off pitch that I could hear and that was her first big concert with Nightwish after Tuomas invited her to sing with them. She had no floor monitors in front of her during Wacken which made her notes even more incredibly perfect so apparently Floor, unlike you and me, does have real perfect pitch.
BTW did you notice how much taller Floor is than Henk? She was a competitive bodybuilder in her youth(now retired) and she is 6'2" and at least 200-210lbs. Henk is probably 5'10"-5'11" and stout, maybe similar weight, not sure.
I enjoy coming here to watch your videos because you are a good analyst and you have a very strong command of English, with your cute Dutch accent. And besides, you are deliciously pretty, so there's that... :D
This is Floor and Hanks version. It's not meant to be an exact copy of the original.. they made it their own... it's absolutely amazing !!!... you are beyond too critical .
It's there take on the song Einstein it's not suppose to sound like the original. Let's hear you do better Miss Perfect. You must be levitating above the rest of the singer reactions. Kids if you want to be the best singer obviously this teacher can take you to the heights of Floor Jansen. I wise man once said "Those who can't, teach" and your clearly in this category. I expect I'll be hearing your name as a superstar in the future...oh wait you didn't make it.😅
I hope you do realise they are NOT playing the opera or musical version but the NIGHTWISH version which they actually aced?
Dear Linor.
Would love if you found some time to react to Nightwishs live version
of this song with Tarja Turunen😊
Merry christmas to you
Your Dutch pronunciation is really impressive 😁 ❤from a Dutchie
please do the Amsterdam Ziggo Arena thing of the same song, same singers , but....with Nightwish
You don’t know a whole lot about a whole lot do you? Just what I’m getting from what you’re saying.
These two will be performing this at a Nightwish gig in the Netherlands some time next year... And it will probably be an epic performance of this with full on power of Nightwish to back up the powerful singing chops these people possess.
Dear Linor, i can understand it can be tough for you to comment on a « pop » performance like this one when you have operatic roots and background. But you do it with respect and happily say the things with your handsome smile ! ... yes, you are so professionnal, a pretty and classy woman. Keep on being what you are ! You make a good work. Thank you !