You can say it's close but objectively Rogue Wave wins in all aspects except musicality and even then the second round was quite musical... I have to clarify that I enjoyed Jairo's rounds much more and probably most of the judges too, but once you understand a little how the voting system works you realize that battles like these are not closed at all
@@nebojsavelickovic5388 But they are not just judging art, they are judging a battle. Your subjective personal taste of the best art is just one of the criterias, the last one i would say. Rogue wave were much better in many aspects of the Battle, u can go watch dlow's videos and see how is the process of his judging. It's gonna be very subjective many times, but that is objectivly many diferent aspects u can analyse to sctrure your decision.
@@nebojsavelickovic5388 there is objectivity in battles though. As I understand it, there are several criteria, including technicality, musicality, timing etc. which can be scored objectively.
@@nebojsavelickovic5388I mean they’re are objectivities in art other wise I wouldn’t have my bachelors in music theory I’d just have my teachers feelings hahaha (bad joke) but yeah there are definite rights and wrongs in art to say of course there are far less wrongs but when any type of musical art has an element where it is to be graded on a multitude of criteria then yes there is objectivity and yes subjectivity too there is both :)
the only problem with Rogue wave is that Jairo won the coin toss. So they have to go first that is why y'all forgot to mention how good their first round is. For my taste the first round go to rogue wave (not even close).To be fair the second round of Jairo is very* on point and has more battle energy than the first round they did on the other side Rogue wave being not 100% on point but keep in mind that the technicality and variety of sounds is way ahead . The music that Jairo brings is more enjoyable and easy to understand. But the technicality and the pure beatboxing skills of Colaps and River is just unmatchable . In the end I really glad with the result. Big up for Rogue wave and Jairo for pushing the boundary of what a tag team can do.❤
Yeah its not all about how good are them on solo, its about how well they delivered the rounds. And both give a crazy performance, however it was a very clear edge to rogue wave by one of the smallest of margins in gbb tag team finals but they did his style first round, and second round used very well to sort of "counter" the style of jairo up to that moment in the competition, very risky but they are profesionals bro, they ticked almost every box. Even harder when you have a insane crowd response just for start singing like a any major singer lol.
There is so much great music that could be made in beatbox thats not going to be top level battle round material - or at least will usually loose out to the superior 'box tickers' like Colaps and River (and yes those guys can write amazing music as well as elite battle rounds and I really enjoyed them here). If I'm introducing people to beatboxing I never show them battle rounds (except maybe Codfish). Imagine if battle events (with the same kind of judging criteria as these events) had always been the means by which musicians could claim the best success. Would that have been good or bad for the music world? - There might be a lot less empty spaces in a lot of songs...
I agree that rogue wave could have executed the second round way better ! But i think live you couldn't hear all the mistakes as in the video. But i think the first round was to good vs jairo's first. I would give first round to rogue wave, second to jairo. But the first is a large win. Also Jairo did covers and not original songs. So i would vote for rogue wave.
I'm starting to turn crazy with the reactions of this battle . Like COME ON ?! How can people can objectivly choose Jairo as the winner ?! I mean, don't get me wrong, this was a close battle and what Jairo brought was amazing and really refreshing and I absolutely loved it and I could listen to their music like regular music. And also, for a first appearance in the GBB stage, what they did was wonderful. BUT, if you stay objective : To say and prouve we should not minimize Jairo crazy muiscality, with extraordinary voice and bass techniques, people tend to minimaze the "most solo skills with more complex drops and more crazy beatbox tehcniques" to quote you. Yes, to sing is a special sound but how many special sounds does Rogue Wave have ? They absolutely smashed it, bought more energy and abttle energy, had a better stage presence, and their secound was an excellent answer to jairo style. Jairo spent to much time singing in their first round, and at the end it is "always the same" (not reallay but you get what I mean) Everybody's using the magic words 'more enjoyable"... but this is a *esh*ing battle and in a battle perspective (yes it is because judges have criterias but it is important) Rogue Wave won and it is obvious
I wouldn't say obvious, also you can't stay objective when judging art, art is subjective, everyone views it differently, so yeah, it all depends how judges see it, I'm sure there is some variant of judges that would have choose jairo, and jairo would have won
I think rogue wave deserved the win, although Jairo were amazing there was limitations and it may be a hot take from me but all there rounds are very very the same either musically sounding the same or more specifically structured the exact same build with a verse of singing punch into a drop where it’s either bass and throat tapping or unison vocal + bass and drums a lot of there rounds you can fit into the same structure and it became repetitive honestly rogue wave had a variety of genre, techniques even musical elements with that second round and were more of a variety through the whole comp, Jairo are amazing but they are performers not battlers they are probably some of the best beat boxers when it comes to musical style and performance but one of those B’s in GBB stands for battle and when it comes down to it rogue waves came in to battle and Jairo came to perform (nothing wrong with that) There’s my hot take don’t flame me to hard if you disagree haha
i think jairo couldve won if they had faster build ups and just less "dead times" or "breaks" whatever you'd call it, where not much happens. it's still a battle and therefor rogue wave wins for me for sure
Jairo est vraiment en harmonie une symbiose parfaite... Rogue Wave c'etais du bruit, du bruit et du bruit... Jairo pour moi sont largement au-dessus des autres... ils arrive avec un style unique... hate de revoir ce duo ❤
I am loving ur reaction for so long but it's simwtimes like eatching you is like watching a japan lover IDK why, and For me it was clear win for roge wave cause if vocal are first beatbox instrument then it should be treated as a single instrument. Rather then considering it a whole round ❤
I think it's just about different beatbox styles, I doubt they were just there to have fun, since Yamori cried when they lost. Both tag teams, has perfected their own styles.
Bro, it's becoming a bit boring tbh, how can someone say Jairo wins this battle? This is a BEATBOX competition, not a singing competition... come on! Jairo was really really great, but beatbox wise in general, Rogue Wave were WAY WAY better. If you want to get goosebumps with singing, this is not the competition for you. Rogue Wave are, FOR SURE, the right winners here, even though Jairo was amazing to listen to
@@blengblong01712 You just took the argument to the abusurd... He never said that "ONLY SING is Beatbox"... is the same that ask if somewhone perform only with kicks... only with snares. Beatbox is a complet art, everything that your mouth sounds to turn into a melodic estrutured beat, is beatbox. No one does only sing.
chezame admit it, youre just a romantic and love japan and love the cinderella story and me too BUT it feels like you judge them on different standards, which again - understandable and id do the same (but thats why we are not judges), like you look at rogue wave and you look at two world champions and if its just that - two world champions in world champion form you are not as impressed but at the end of the day objectivly (narratives, feelings side) rogue wave got it and a fair win
Dude i normally like your videos but this time you are talking way too fast and all over the place. And of top of that you are clapping at basically every word you say.
that's it, i will stop watch and unsub to chezame. his opinion always weird most of the time, first time that really trigger me is colaps and inertia and he choose inertia to win like wtf man. so yeah, i wish the best for u chezame, thank u for all the content from dec 2020, peace out.
I think it was a battle that changed a lot depending on what the judge values. In any case, the two had a wonderful battle on an equal footing.
chezame dude your reactions make my day
You can say it's close but objectively Rogue Wave wins in all aspects except musicality and even then the second round was quite musical... I have to clarify that I enjoyed Jairo's rounds much more and probably most of the judges too, but once you understand a little how the voting system works you realize that battles like these are not closed at all
There's no objectivity in art my guy, it all comes to subjective opinion
And i also don't know how it was live, but on the video it's really close if not on jairo's side in my opinion, so yeah, that's all i wanted to say
@@nebojsavelickovic5388 But they are not just judging art, they are judging a battle. Your subjective personal taste of the best art is just one of the criterias, the last one i would say. Rogue wave were much better in many aspects of the Battle, u can go watch dlow's videos and see how is the process of his judging. It's gonna be very subjective many times, but that is objectivly many diferent aspects u can analyse to sctrure your decision.
@@nebojsavelickovic5388 there is objectivity in battles though. As I understand it, there are several criteria, including technicality, musicality, timing etc. which can be scored objectively.
@@nebojsavelickovic5388I mean they’re are objectivities in art other wise I wouldn’t have my bachelors in music theory I’d just have my teachers feelings hahaha (bad joke) but yeah there are definite rights and wrongs in art to say of course there are far less wrongs but when any type of musical art has an element where it is to be graded on a multitude of criteria then yes there is objectivity and yes subjectivity too there is both :)
the only problem with Rogue wave is that Jairo won the coin toss. So they have to go first that is why y'all forgot to mention how good their first round is. For my taste the first round go to rogue wave (not even close).To be fair the second round of Jairo is very* on point and has more battle energy than the first round they did on the other side Rogue wave being not 100% on point but keep in mind that the technicality and variety of sounds is way ahead .
The music that Jairo brings is more enjoyable and easy to understand.
But the technicality and the pure beatboxing skills of Colaps and River is just unmatchable .
In the end I really glad with the result. Big up for Rogue wave and Jairo for pushing the boundary of what a tag team can do.❤
absolutely based comment
nailed it.
Rogue wave really impressive but jairo every round unforgetable
Yeah its not all about how good are them on solo, its about how well they delivered the rounds. And both give a crazy performance, however it was a very clear edge to rogue wave by one of the smallest of margins in gbb tag team finals but they did his style first round, and second round used very well to sort of "counter" the style of jairo up to that moment in the competition, very risky but they are profesionals bro, they ticked almost every box. Even harder when you have a insane crowd response just for start singing like a any major singer lol.
あなたのリアクションが大好きです😂😂
they know how to captivate their audience with their unique sound🤘 I now need to see you react on October Ends's new song Dark 😍
Bro small final reaction plz❤
There is so much great music that could be made in beatbox thats not going to be top level battle round material - or at least will usually loose out to the superior 'box tickers' like Colaps and River (and yes those guys can write amazing music as well as elite battle rounds and I really enjoyed them here).
If I'm introducing people to beatboxing I never show them battle rounds (except maybe Codfish). Imagine if battle events (with the same kind of judging criteria as these events) had always been the means by which musicians could claim the best success. Would that have been good or bad for the music world? - There might be a lot less empty spaces in a lot of songs...
I think it might be a bit close on video, but live Rougewave won by miles. Jairo are very inspiration tho
I agree that rogue wave could have executed the second round way better ! But i think live you couldn't hear all the mistakes as in the video.
But i think the first round was to good vs jairo's first.
I would give first round to rogue wave, second to jairo. But the first is a large win.
Also Jairo did covers and not original songs.
So i would vote for rogue wave.
どっちが1位だったか議論がおこるくらいにどちらも素晴らしくて接戦だった
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Chezame big fan
please react to Osis vs Frosty semi final. best battle of 2023
I'm starting to turn crazy with the reactions of this battle . Like COME ON ?! How can people can objectivly choose Jairo as the winner ?!
I mean, don't get me wrong, this was a close battle and what Jairo brought was amazing and really refreshing and I absolutely loved it and I could listen to their music like regular music. And also, for a first appearance in the GBB stage, what they did was wonderful.
BUT, if you stay objective :
To say and prouve we should not minimize Jairo crazy muiscality, with extraordinary voice and bass techniques, people tend to minimaze the "most solo skills with more complex drops and more crazy beatbox tehcniques" to quote you. Yes, to sing is a special sound but how many special sounds does Rogue Wave have ? They absolutely smashed it, bought more energy and abttle energy, had a better stage presence, and their secound was an excellent answer to jairo style. Jairo spent to much time singing in their first round, and at the end it is "always the same" (not reallay but you get what I mean)
Everybody's using the magic words 'more enjoyable"... but this is a *esh*ing battle and in a battle perspective (yes it is because judges have criterias but it is important) Rogue Wave won and it is obvious
I wouldn't say obvious, also you can't stay objective when judging art, art is subjective, everyone views it differently, so yeah, it all depends how judges see it, I'm sure there is some variant of judges that would have choose jairo, and jairo would have won
I think simple is the best. Jairo win
nerd
reactors are just too simp except for d-low. Go watch D-low's if you haven't
@@augusthtike7109 You don't know the real Jairo yet
i dunno why some dont understand this is not voice and its a beatbox battle(yea battle not even showcase)
Jairo show more team work than other team , they do more tag team than showoff battle
I think rogue wave deserved the win, although Jairo were amazing there was limitations and it may be a hot take from me but all there rounds are very very the same either musically sounding the same or more specifically structured the exact same build with a verse of singing punch into a drop where it’s either bass and throat tapping or unison vocal + bass and drums a lot of there rounds you can fit into the same structure and it became repetitive honestly rogue wave had a variety of genre, techniques even musical elements with that second round and were more of a variety through the whole comp, Jairo are amazing but they are performers not battlers they are probably some of the best beat boxers when it comes to musical style and performance but one of those B’s in GBB stands for battle and when it comes down to it rogue waves came in to battle and Jairo came to perform (nothing wrong with that)
There’s my hot take don’t flame me to hard if you disagree haha
i think jairo couldve won if they had faster build ups and just less "dead times" or "breaks" whatever you'd call it, where not much happens. it's still a battle and therefor rogue wave wins for me for sure
Jairo est vraiment en harmonie une symbiose parfaite... Rogue Wave c'etais du bruit, du bruit et du bruit... Jairo pour moi sont largement au-dessus des autres... ils arrive avec un style unique... hate de revoir ce duo ❤
If only they performed the Begin by letting go in the final along with the last one.
I am loving ur reaction for so long but it's simwtimes like eatching you is like watching a japan lover IDK why, and For me it was clear win for roge wave cause if vocal are first beatbox instrument then it should be treated as a single instrument. Rather then considering it a whole round ❤
If this was a showcase battle I'll vote jairo but this is the best BeatBox duo battle.
個人的には両方系統違うから最後の最後までどっちが優勝するかわかんなかった
[rofu vs jackpot] reaction please🙏
Japanese beatboxers are gradually changing beatboxing scenes.
Rogue Wave 🌊 drowning everyone whole event.
both team did great ! Dont get me wrong there , i prefer Jairo . On my ears the sound they made are more appealing. Congratz to the winner i guess ...
Jairo are better performers, but Rogue Wave are better battlers
small finalはあげないんですか？
So disapointed to see people says Jairo while they dont know about battlles ratings
maybe jairo not win the battle but they're win our hearts
決してバトル向きではないスタイルで2位まで行ったジャイロはほんとにすごい！🎉ローグウェイブも王者に相応しいバトルをしたと思う。
you don’t win by just being more musical.. rogue wave checks every other box.. ez win
It was not even a close battle , Rogue Wave won easily , Jairo was just having fun and they weren't in a battle mode
nah it was actually really close . Some say jairo could have won .
lol@@Zveistras
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@@DAHLIA1_ dude ? I just said that some people say that jairo won 🤺🤺
I think it's just about different beatbox styles, I doubt they were just there to have fun, since Yamori cried when they lost.
Both tag teams, has perfected their own styles.
That was really close.
Yo rogue wave has 174334 reasons to win but preference and I wanna go viral makes me say opposite
まじでこれは審査員の価値観と何に重きを置いてるかによるよな。
Bro, it's becoming a bit boring tbh, how can someone say Jairo wins this battle? This is a BEATBOX competition, not a singing competition... come on! Jairo was really really great, but beatbox wise in general, Rogue Wave were WAY WAY better. If you want to get goosebumps with singing, this is not the competition for you. Rogue Wave are, FOR SURE, the right winners here, even though Jairo was amazing to listen to
歌いすぎって意見があるけど、反則ならそもそも勝ち上がってない。ビートボックスは道具なしで口から音を出して競うものって思ってるんだけど違ったんかな？
まあ、でも歌ならもっと上手い人がいるからってのはあるかもな。色んなスタイルがいる方が見ていて楽しいし、次に期待してる。
なんとなく見ててうっすら感じるのは昔から音楽性と技術の間で人は揉めがちだったんじゃないかなーみたいな
採点基準で議論が起きているのはそれぐらいこのバトルが良いバトルだったから、ぐらいに捉えておくのが一番ちょうどいいんじゃない？
自分も次に期待
元々は歌、ラップの裏を口だけで出せるってところから始まってるからパーカッションに対するこだわりがあるのも不思議じゃない。歌主体のヤモリがここまで上がってこれるくらいビートボックスの範囲が広がってきて今やと思う
I agree that Singing is special sound, Beatbox is not only HARD
Jairo いいね〜 ♪
round 1 of Rogue Wave was the best so they became champions 🦞
First round Jairo 💀💀💀
Jairo did just sing way to much. It did sound amazing, it was impressive, but it is a beatbox battle. Not a singing contest
I think singing is first beatbox sound.
But isn't singing part of beatboxing, it's a vocal technique, it's as much beatboxing as any other vocal technique
@@nebojsavelickovic5388 So someone who can sing like Bruno Mars, Michael Jackson, Celine Dion, etc. could compete in GBB?
its more on showcase not battle type
@@blengblong01712 You just took the argument to the abusurd... He never said that "ONLY SING is Beatbox"... is the same that ask if somewhone perform only with kicks... only with snares. Beatbox is a complet art, everything that your mouth sounds to turn into a melodic estrutured beat, is beatbox. No one does only sing.
Its not close 😂
Musicality in my opinion topples just skill and technique
ここのコメ欄みると、海外のコメ欄も日本とそんなに変わらないんだなと思った。(いい意味でも悪い意味でも)
Jairo is really good, but still overrated.
This is not a singing & harmonizing competition. Rogue Wave won.
good thing chezame isn’t a judge
どっちが勝ってもおかしくないレベルだったから議論が起きてんだよな
Like you didn’t even watch it lol over reaction to the top lol
chezame admit it, youre just a romantic and love japan and love the cinderella story and me too BUT it feels like you judge them on different standards, which again - understandable and id do the same (but thats why we are not judges), like you look at rogue wave and you look at two world champions and if its just that - two world champions in world champion form you are not as impressed but at the end of the day objectivly (narratives, feelings side) rogue wave got it and a fair win
Rogue wave lost. Stop bringing bad vibes. Jairo won.
Dude i normally like your videos but this time you are talking way too fast and all over the place. And of top of that you are clapping at basically every word you say.
that's it, i will stop watch and unsub to chezame.
his opinion always weird most of the time,
first time that really trigger me is colaps and inertia and he choose inertia to win like wtf man.
so yeah, i wish the best for u chezame, thank u for all the content from dec 2020, peace out.
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