Hi, Subaru tech here. Using a belt is a neat trick I didn’t know, thanks! Next time you do this take the motor mount of the side you’re working on, off, then use a jack and lift it up. You will gain all the room you’d have as if the motor was out of the car
You're talking about the crank pulley belt trick? Yeah that's a great one to know! Comes in handy. And yeah I saw some other people recommending to disconnect the motor mounts but it was so oily and greasy under there I didn't want to get involved lol. Thanks man!
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow and the timing belts, I’ve never seen anyone here do it. Granted we have the tool, but it’s an awesome trick! Keep up the good work, love your videos!
I am a diy mechanic taught by my dad and life, but this is something I would think seriously think about before taking on this job. Great show!!! Thank you.
I have a '99 Outback with 78k miles, got it from the original owner in '21 with all receipts of work since it was new including the window sticker. It's finally time to fully refresh her. All new suspension, brakes, gaskets, hoses, etc. I'll comment back with the final total bill
I’m starting this tomorrow. 1997 Subaru legacy outback 2.5D as well. I soaked the EGR tube nut on the manifold (since mine was rusted) I used Kroil and did 3 soaks 15 minutes apart, 17mm box end and a small tap from my dead blow and it came off like hot butter. I’m going to resurface the heads myself at home with 1,000 grit sandpaper (pvc glued onto a wooden cutting board) and spray some WD-40 as lubricant, I’m going to do 25 swirl passes in each direction and check for gapping or warpage. I did this procedure before and sold the car after the job on my 2001 Subaru legacy gt limited, cars still running around my county and has held up for 3 years, the new owner takes it on trips and everything. Not everyone needs a machinist (but if you have more money then take it in!) ballin on a budget is possible as long as you have patience!
Very well done and explained, I have a 2010 model forester with some overheating problems, a mechanic friend indicated he would not do this without engine being out of car and this is not something I would tackle myself but kudos to you as you are a professional, excellent video!
Yeah man that must be an awesome feeling to not have an internal combustion engine to worry about. Good luck with the new rig! I think we're going to be seeing a major transfer in the next 5 to 10 years. Everybody's going to start going electric
Excellent Video Chris. I did a single cam motor a couple of years ago for my neighbor, I broke that plastic PCV valve insert as well. The one thing I did was replace the pinch hose clamps that were in hard to reach places with the screw type hose clamps, I've had issues in the past with those pinch clamps leaking. Again, very informative video, thanks for sharing all those tips.
This is a necro reply but you created a problem down the line, the reason they use the pinch type over screw is because of heat expansion and contraction
Not too much talking. Knowledge is power to those who don't know. You're thorough and informative. I'm looking to buy one of these as the new ones are sky high in price...
Head gaskets suck to do on any engine. Your a beast man. I love watching your videos. Like you said, always good to change sensors and vacuum lines while you’re in there doing the job. Great video.
Glad to see you using air tools. I am resisting spending a hundred bucks on a battery powered ratchet when I already have two air ratchets. I did get a 3/8 impact though.
Have a head gasket in a 98 Forester. Hoping to figure this job to get it by until I find a newer long block for it. Wasn't expecting to find the exact video I would need, posted a week ago. Much thanks.
Awesome man, yeah knock it out. Not too bad a job. this video is not super thorough but it should give you a good idea of what is ahead of you with some tips. Good luck!
i have replaced head gaskets but in American made engines..that face the right way up if you know what i mean…one look at that thing would want to make me gargle Lye…well done bro!
Chris, this stresses me just to watch you brother, you’re an amazing mechanic my friend! Awesome job Chris, thanks for sharing! Kirk from Louisiana 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👌🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸
I have the same 12v ratchet. Also if you use the alternator belt to loosen the crank bolt, I found vice grips clamping the belt at the pulley made a big difference.
Ok I'm confused, he says install the heads using the reverse of the removal sequence. 11:59 shows to start top right back then bottom left front then bottom right back etc... then at 25:17 the sequence is different it starts top middle Nevermind I just figured it out you start at #6 when removing. Got it!
Lots of awesome older Subarus out there with like new interiors and great paint. But if it has 90,000 miles or more on the engine it’s going to need this work done. I think Subaru finally resolved the head gasket issue around 2015. The used Outback Limited I bought was a 2001 with 95,000 and it was beautiful. Brought it home and noticed oil drip from the engine passenger side and it was a very small drip from the head gasket. I learned that wasn’t a serious issue but if coolant started leaking into an oil passage that’s when engines fail. I had the heads done at 125,000 miles and drove it 230,000 miles before selling it. I really miss that Outback. But I didn’t pay attention when everybody told me if you buy a Subaru head gaskets will fail.
They addressed the gasket issue with the FB engines. However, the earlier FB's (like my 2012) has the oil and coolant disappearing. I neglected the coolant drain for a month, probably overheated the engine and may need to replace the head gasket. Oil is sleeping into the coolant system which is what I hear is supposed to happen with the FB series instead of reverse. So, the moral of the story seems to be to check fluids weekly to prevent overheating. I am not looking forward to pulling the engine out.
I use the white bristle disk too for cleaning the block deck. That's definitely a weird torque sequence, never seen that before. I typically don't use locktite unless it was there from the factory. Did you get burned a couple times with bolts loosening up?
Yeah the white discs are definitely the way to go. I just didn't have any handy so I went super easy with the green disc. Wacky torque sequence for sure.
Oh WOW!!! My wife and I used to run one of these PLUS an Outback (yeah I know, masochists!) And I found that just changing the spark plugs was almost as much work as what you just showed us there! But what beautiful cars, I would have another in a heartbeat..... 🤓👍. John.
I highly recommend just pulling the engine out to do this repair.. its not much more work to pull it out when you are already this far into it.. and that will allow you to change the common leaky rear main seal as well and oil pan gasket etc and is a lot easier on a stand.
Thanks for the video Chris! When you say to tighten the water pump down in two stages, are you tightening it to the same torque each stage? Or snug and then tight?
I watched the video on the 04 civic head gasket, because I’ve got an 05, now I’m seeing this video, because I’ve also got an ej255. Now I need u to do a video on a Nissan forklift lol
Hey man I currently own a 99 legacy outback 5 speed limited edition the interior of the car looks brand freaking new all black leather with wood grain trim. Less than 100k I’ve already put hella money into it. I’m very much familiar with mechanics and into Subaru’s. I love this car and I don’t want to give her up. How hard is this job would you say?
Lol, don't let Chris fool you. It's a hard job. He just makes it look easy! The biggest thing is making sure you keep track of all the bolts, electrical connections, and hoses because you will be removing a ton of them. It's also one of those jobs that you have to do perfectly or you'll end up doing it again. And because it's a box engine, you gotta do it perfectly twice.
I'm looking into buying an older Subaru. Is this what everyone's talking about when they mention the notorious "bad gaskets?" Seems like a hell of a technical job. I've changed a few axles, and suspension parts, feel confident about the timing belt, but this shit seems way too overwhelming. Also, could you elaborate more on the straight edge technique?
How much do you charge for head gasket job? I replaced my timing belt 2 years ago because one of the pulleys had broken so I replaced the belt with a new one cause I saw dry cracks on it but lately I've been having trouble with the car overheating the past couple of months but I replaced the thermostat, radiator, and cap and it's still overheating somebody told me to do water pump too but I don't know somebody gave me a kit to test for exhaust gas but it came up negative but I like the way you did the job. What makes me nervous is taking the heads off and having to take them apart I just don't feel confident enough dealing with that.
If you did a timing belt you should be able to do the head gasket no problem. Just give yourself plenty of time. And bring the head to a machine shop and have them check it out. A reputable one.
For the same reason you don't record videos at all. It's a pain in the butt to try and record something when what you're doing is already a pain in the butt. So when it comes to a step that is critical and needs my full attention, I don't waste my time with the camera. I'm sorry the video didn't meet your expectations. Hopefully it was still helpful for you. It's not a how-to video, just an overview with helpful tips. Good luck on the job
Wow ehat a video ! Ive watched all your other videos and on the okder cars i can do most anything .but fhis video taught me when critical thing ." Dont buy a Subaru" lol ! Always kive your content Chris.
If you use ARP head bolts you will never ever have a head gasket issue failure again that is because the head gasket torque sequence is a lot better than Subarus
Yep! Figured I could bang it out real quick, but didn't go as planned. Always sucks putting something back together like that after being on vacation for a week
By not removing the engine you are risking gasket failure due to oil and or coolant contamination. Just one rogue drip of either oil or coolant out of the block during assembly.
it takes less than 45 minutes to pull an EJ25 engine and put it on a stand. doing them in the car is way more work and much higher chance of something going wrong.
You are a f*ing MAN! Way, way, way over my head! Only thing you left out was an occasional cuss word or 20. Again, where do you find the time? Great video!
In aluminum block engines you will never be able to properly tighten the head bolts. They will strip the treads easily. NOTHING beats cast iron engine block for proper tightness. To make the matters worse Subaru, and others now use silicone from a tube instead of real gaskets. Enough for me never to consider this auto maker, and I mean never. Even replacing spark plugs is a huge PITA job.
Never ever buy one of these pieces of s*** I've got 244,000 MI on my Nissan Frontier and the only engine work I've ever done was replace one coil pack doesn't burn oil doesn't leak Rock Solid engine 2008 Nissan Frontier Bulletproof
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I’m never going to perform this operation, but I still feel compelled to watch!
My man! Well I appreciate you watching it in either case! Thanks dude
I like to learn! What can I say?🤷♂️👍
🤣🤣 true story
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Hi, Subaru tech here. Using a belt is a neat trick I didn’t know, thanks! Next time you do this take the motor mount of the side you’re working on, off, then use a jack and lift it up. You will gain all the room you’d have as if the motor was out of the car
You're talking about the crank pulley belt trick? Yeah that's a great one to know! Comes in handy. And yeah I saw some other people recommending to disconnect the motor mounts but it was so oily and greasy under there I didn't want to get involved lol. Thanks man!
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow and the timing belts, I’ve never seen anyone here do it. Granted we have the tool, but it’s an awesome trick! Keep up the good work, love your videos!
That belt trick works like once lol In ten attempts
@@Positiveinfluence99 he never showed how he strech torq those head studs.. I was waiting to see that mess off a head torq attempt
@Britcherbrianjr how do you do this if you also need to change the oil pan gasket?
I am a diy mechanic taught by my dad and life, but this is something I would think seriously think about before taking on this job. Great show!!! Thank you.
Get an alldata or Mitchell's diy account if you ever do.. will save your Bacon
I have a '99 Outback with 78k miles, got it from the original owner in '21 with all receipts of work since it was new including the window sticker. It's finally time to fully refresh her. All new suspension, brakes, gaskets, hoses, etc. I'll comment back with the final total bill
I’m starting this tomorrow. 1997 Subaru legacy outback 2.5D as well. I soaked the EGR tube nut on the manifold (since mine was rusted) I used Kroil and did 3 soaks 15 minutes apart, 17mm box end and a small tap from my dead blow and it came off like hot butter. I’m going to resurface the heads myself at home with 1,000 grit sandpaper (pvc glued onto a wooden cutting board) and spray some WD-40 as lubricant, I’m going to do 25 swirl passes in each direction and check for gapping or warpage. I did this procedure before and sold the car after the job on my 2001 Subaru legacy gt limited, cars still running around my county and has held up for 3 years, the new owner takes it on trips and everything. Not everyone needs a machinist (but if you have more money then take it in!) ballin on a budget is possible as long as you have patience!
Very well done and explained, I have a 2010 model forester with some overheating problems, a mechanic friend indicated he would not do this without engine being out of car and this is not something I would tackle myself but kudos to you as you are a professional, excellent video!
So glad I dont have to see oil leaks anymore. This video was informative but also brought back bad memories lol
Yeah man that must be an awesome feeling to not have an internal combustion engine to worry about. Good luck with the new rig! I think we're going to be seeing a major transfer in the next 5 to 10 years. Everybody's going to start going electric
Excellent Video Chris. I did a single cam motor a couple of years ago for my neighbor, I broke that plastic PCV valve insert as well. The one thing I did was replace the pinch hose clamps that were in hard to reach places with the screw type hose clamps, I've had issues in the past with those pinch clamps leaking. Again, very informative video, thanks for sharing all those tips.
This is a necro reply but you created a problem down the line, the reason they use the pinch type over screw is because of heat expansion and contraction
Not too much talking. Knowledge is power to those who don't know. You're thorough and informative. I'm looking to buy one of these as the new ones are sky high in price...
Head gaskets suck to do on any engine. Your a beast man. I love watching your videos. Like you said, always good to change sensors and vacuum lines while you’re in there doing the job. Great video.
As a so-so DIY mechanic I'd say my 2002 Forester was the biggest PITA car that I've ever owned. I damn it straight to hell.
Just purchased an 04 forester xr for my first car and need to do the head gaskets this is going to be a life saver
Whoa Chris! You are the Man! This job is short of a total teardown! As a armchair enthusiast,it makes for great Viewing!
Glad to see you using air tools. I am resisting spending a hundred bucks on a battery powered ratchet when I already have two air ratchets. I did get a 3/8 impact though.
Appreciate the time you took to make this! Really helps
Great video. I do not want to do this job on my Forester but it needs to get overhauled. This video is definitely helpful. Thank you.
Have a head gasket in a 98 Forester. Hoping to figure this job to get it by until I find a newer long block for it. Wasn't expecting to find the exact video I would need, posted a week ago. Much thanks.
Awesome man, yeah knock it out. Not too bad a job. this video is not super thorough but it should give you a good idea of what is ahead of you with some tips. Good luck!
I love the talking. Learn a lot from you don't change!
i have replaced head gaskets but in American made engines..that face the right way up if you know what i mean…one look at that thing would want to make me gargle Lye…well done bro!
Talk more we love it your voice is so calming
You done a great job sir. I have a Subaru legacy outback 1999.. head gasket issues. Im glad I found your video on TH-cam..
Chris, this stresses me just to watch you brother, you’re an amazing mechanic my friend! Awesome job Chris, thanks for sharing! Kirk from Louisiana 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👌🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸
Great video! Nicely explained without too much talk, unless needed. Thank you!
Good work, customer putting some money into that 98, but hey price of a new one is crazy 👍🏻
I have the same 12v ratchet. Also if you use the alternator belt to loosen the crank bolt, I found vice grips clamping the belt at the pulley made a big difference.
Ok I'm confused, he says install the heads using the reverse of the removal sequence. 11:59 shows to start top right back then bottom left front then bottom right back etc... then at 25:17 the sequence is different it starts top middle
Nevermind I just figured it out you start at #6 when removing. Got it!
Awesome video, thanks 👍 I’m pretty confident I can get this job done after buying a few more tools. A few parts seem stressful but I can figure it ou
Chris, you rock as usual.
I will prolly never own a subaru but still found this a good watch.
Awesome to hear that. Thanks Rick!
I had an 2009 2.5 Outback and now have a 2015 3.6 Outback. Never had an issue with either.
Lots of awesome older Subarus out there with like new interiors and great paint. But if it has 90,000 miles or more on the engine it’s going to need this work done. I think Subaru finally resolved the head gasket issue around 2015. The used Outback Limited I bought was a 2001 with 95,000 and it was beautiful. Brought it home and noticed oil drip from the engine passenger side and it was a very small drip from the head gasket. I learned that wasn’t a serious issue but if coolant started leaking into an oil passage that’s when engines fail. I had the heads done at 125,000 miles and drove it 230,000 miles before selling it. I really miss that Outback. But I didn’t pay attention when everybody told me if you buy a Subaru head gaskets will fail.
2009 was when they finally fix it and then redesign in 2012.
They addressed the gasket issue with the FB engines. However, the earlier FB's (like my 2012) has the oil and coolant disappearing. I neglected the coolant drain for a month, probably overheated the engine and may need to replace the head gasket. Oil is sleeping into the coolant system which is what I hear is supposed to happen with the FB series instead of reverse. So, the moral of the story seems to be to check fluids weekly to prevent overheating. I am not looking forward to pulling the engine out.
thank you for explaining everything so well. You've saved so many subies❤❤
Nice job Chris. Great attention to detail!
Thanks Shannon!
I use the white bristle disk too for cleaning the block deck. That's definitely a weird torque sequence, never seen that before. I typically don't use locktite unless it was there from the factory. Did you get burned a couple times with bolts loosening up?
Yeah the white discs are definitely the way to go. I just didn't have any handy so I went super easy with the green disc. Wacky torque sequence for sure.
And no not really burned ever, I just prefer using loctite on crucial components. Just to be over the top. Since that's how I roll lol
Omg I missed he used locktite? What in shady tree work is this haha
Oh WOW!!! My wife and I used to run one of these PLUS an Outback (yeah I know, masochists!) And I found that just changing the spark plugs was almost as much work as what you just showed us there! But what beautiful cars, I would have another in a heartbeat..... 🤓👍. John.
Yeahhh I just did my spark plugs and starter… this is a different ball game
I highly recommend just pulling the engine out to do this repair.. its not much more work to pull it out when you are already this far into it.. and that will allow you to change the common leaky rear main seal as well and oil pan gasket etc and is a lot easier on a stand.
For sure .easier to install heads when engine out. 🍺
Love this Chris - I have an 04 Forester XT so really good info!
ive got a 2008 outback so more subaru maintenance videos would definitely be appreciated ;)
for anyone thinking of doing this, pull the engine. it's so much easier and takes another 20 min!!
Super sweet video man. Thank you.
Glad you liked it!
Definitely not doing this before I go back to work. Might have to drill some holes in the thermostat.
Can you do this in the car on a 05 outback xt turbo wagon? Dohc
Nice move with the old timing belt, wish I seen this long ago haha
Thank you this was very informative five stars brother
19:40 - I know it's a lot of talking...
Me: *claps in thankful*
I know this video two years old but dang awesome mechanic, anyway I can have you work on my 06 Impreza
That's a big job. Well done..
Thanks for the video Chris! When you say to tighten the water pump down in two stages, are you tightening it to the same torque each stage? Or snug and then tight?
Good shit! Way beyond my capabilities but cool to see nonetheless.
Nah you could do this job easy!
big job done well
I watched the video on the 04 civic head gasket, because I’ve got an 05, now I’m seeing this video, because I’ve also got an ej255. Now I need u to do a video on a Nissan forklift lol
Damn that's a big job! Good work!
I like to pull them out. Thanks for all the information.
The labor cost. Great vid
Hey man I currently own a 99 legacy outback 5 speed limited edition the interior of the car looks brand freaking new all black leather with wood grain trim. Less than 100k I’ve already put hella money into it. I’m very much familiar with mechanics and into Subaru’s. I love this car and I don’t want to give her up. How hard is this job would you say?
It's really not too bad of a job. I say it's worth it if you love the car
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow any special tools I should look for ahead of time. And would you suggest using metal head gaskets?
Just whatever I mentioned in the video. I also plugged some links in the description. Factory OEM multi-layer steel gaskets would be best
Lol, don't let Chris fool you. It's a hard job. He just makes it look easy! The biggest thing is making sure you keep track of all the bolts, electrical connections, and hoses because you will be removing a ton of them. It's also one of those jobs that you have to do perfectly or you'll end up doing it again. And because it's a box engine, you gotta do it perfectly twice.
I'm looking into buying an older Subaru. Is this what everyone's talking about when they mention the notorious "bad gaskets?" Seems like a hell of a technical job. I've changed a few axles, and suspension parts, feel confident about the timing belt, but this shit seems way too overwhelming.
Also, could you elaborate more on the straight edge technique?
He explains it another video where's doing the piston rings on Jen's car. At 19:05 in this video: th-cam.com/video/SGha7jkUVCE/w-d-xo.html
Good job! Thank you for doing this video, it is a great help.
How much do you charge for head gasket job?
I replaced my timing belt 2 years ago because one of the pulleys had broken so
I replaced the belt with a new one cause I saw dry cracks on it but lately I've been having trouble with the car overheating the past couple of months but
I replaced the thermostat, radiator, and cap and it's still overheating somebody told me to do water pump too
but I don't know
somebody gave me a kit to test for exhaust gas but it came up negative but I like the way you did the job.
What makes me nervous is taking the heads off and having to take them apart
I just don't feel confident enough dealing with that.
If you did a timing belt you should be able to do the head gasket no problem. Just give yourself plenty of time. And bring the head to a machine shop and have them check it out. A reputable one.
Really wish dude would have slily panned over the 3 pieces of paper so i could screen record the torque specs but other then that amazing video
Good job. Great show
Rusting head gaskets. That's a new one for me.
How come you turn the camera off when putting on the head? I wanted to see that attempt of bolt stretch lol probably was a mess and you cut it out
For the same reason you don't record videos at all. It's a pain in the butt to try and record something when what you're doing is already a pain in the butt. So when it comes to a step that is critical and needs my full attention, I don't waste my time with the camera. I'm sorry the video didn't meet your expectations. Hopefully it was still helpful for you. It's not a how-to video, just an overview with helpful tips. Good luck on the job
Did you say the cross hatches look good for 90k miles? The exterior of the engine makes it look like that engine has a rough 90k miles.
Did the machine shop have that half moon piece or was it just laying around? That egr would have been deleted if it was my car ;-)
Yeah, he found it in the bottom of his parts cleaner. My fault for not taking everything off the heads I suppose
Hey, at least you found it, nice work!
Yeah I was thankful to. Would have been another day or two to get a set of half moons. And thanks man
last time I did this, I performed the job with the engine in the car like you... Next time? Oh, I'm gonna take the time to just pull the motor...
Cool but maybe a little belt dressing.sounded squeaky 😊
Good work
Good video
Wow ehat a video ! Ive watched all your other videos and on the okder cars i can do most anything .but fhis video taught me when critical thing ." Dont buy a Subaru" lol ! Always kive your content Chris.
If you use ARP head bolts you will never ever have a head gasket issue failure again that is because the head gasket torque sequence is a lot better than Subarus
is this the same as a fb25
Just like a customer to drop off a car for a head gasket right before taking a trip. 😂
Yep! Figured I could bang it out real quick, but didn't go as planned. Always sucks putting something back together like that after being on vacation for a week
how much did you charge him
Damn thats alot of work, i can imagine that the job and part cost more then the car is worth?
Yeah definitely kind of a pricey job, but he loves this car so worth it for him
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow Im sure it is, its great cars. You did a great job!
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In Car!!!!!!
I watch this before doing my timing kit llol
This is why I only work on airplanes LOL
By not removing the engine you are risking gasket failure due to oil and or coolant contamination. Just one rogue drip of either oil or coolant out of the block during assembly.
it takes less than 45 minutes to pull an EJ25 engine and put it on a stand. doing them in the car is way more work and much higher chance of something going wrong.
I've done many this way. Never had a problem. Definitely faster
Can you replace mine sir 😅
My Anxiety when your cracking those head bolts 😳😳😳😳😳
Why would you buy "OE" gaskets when they are proven to FAIL???
Cheap simple piece of mind. Never reuse a crank bolt.
I re used hundreds of them and never had an issue
I know its fine. Just can't bring myself to do it lol. It's how my step dad raised me lmao
I always have spare parts is that bad 😎
I'd never be able to get that car back together!!
Sure you could sis!
This is the way my dad would do it, i might cheat and pull the whole engine out
You are a f*ing MAN! Way, way, way over my head! Only thing you left out was an occasional cuss word or 20. Again, where do you find the time? Great video!
Wow. I would sell a subaru for parts before attempting that.
Tried the belt bite method and it broke my L-E cam gear. Be careful with that method
Edit: also the right intake sprocket. 😅
Ouch really? Never saw that happen but yeah I can see how it would.
You aren't afraid of most jobs. I wouldn't try that nightmare engine!
This job is not fun, especially in frame, it's no fun on an engine stand but at least you can see what you're breaking
In aluminum block engines you will never be able to properly tighten the head bolts. They will strip the treads easily. NOTHING beats cast iron engine block for proper tightness. To make the matters worse Subaru, and others now use silicone from a tube instead of real gaskets. Enough for me never to consider this auto maker, and I mean never. Even replacing spark plugs is a huge PITA job.
Pain in the ass job...$3K IN San Diego
That head torque sequence is laughable
Haha yea.
Not a friendly motor to work on!.
What a terrible looking engine to work on 😣
Never ever buy one of these pieces of s*** I've got 244,000 MI on my Nissan Frontier and the only engine work I've ever done was replace one coil pack doesn't burn oil doesn't leak Rock Solid engine 2008 Nissan Frontier Bulletproof
Bad set up