your words at the end of the video were really inspiring, we will keep them in secret ;-) i've seen someone unbending the pins using a lead holder, inserting the pin into the fine tube, but your work was fine too. Good work
These ryzen cpus are ideal for testing your soldering skills. I practiced on one of these when I was teaching myself soldering techniques. If you can solder 1 pin in the middle, with pins around it, then you can solder most any microscopic components. They are a perfect practice platform.
I straightened around 20 severely bent pins on my brand new 5900X after accidentally ripping it from the socket. I used a pair of needle-nosed pliers and a very THIN plastic card (like from a hotel) or a guitar pick. I didn't even have a magnifying glass. I am amazed it worked without breaking off any pins! I was really lucky they were mostly on the first two rows on one side.
Great work Steady hand. I've fixed bent pins with razor blades mechanical pencils credit cards and tweezers. I like the credit card plus tweezers method.
@@nintones4100 Well it's gonna be a non issue soon anyway since we're moving to AM5 and obviously you wouldn't use the credit card on every single bent pin, I would use tweezers too on the bent edge pins. It's just a good way to check if the line is straight or not. It's more of a reference than anything else, I never said I used it to bend all the pins
thankyou you made my day better , i dont have a miroscope like you , i just have a normal phone (samssung a71) and i use it as a miroscope , and i just did a job like you bending a cpu pin for my customer
I just love the confidence he has, the kind that only comes from years of experience. He is so confident in what he uses that he is a distributor of sorts, but the way he says it's better than factory or how the pins are perfectly straight. I am too OCD about that stuff, if it is shiny or not is simple yet seemingly correct fundamentally. There are many methods to fix or repair boards/chips, some are better than others, as long as you ultimately get the desired result- what is the difference? I love unorthodox mechanisms and presuppose that just because someone is more educated institutionally speaking, doesn't mean that they are indeed smarter or more knowledgeable.. as if that is a qualifying factor for whether or not someone has more credibility. I learn more from watching these hardened professionals in their specific forte operate on a higher level of functionality than I do from anyone who is a mere academic professor. Which seems to be quite the norm
I only care that it works, I don't get them crazy straight, just straight enough to fit in the socket. I am only doing it for fun on junk parts though. Its only hyperbole anyway.
I straightened pins of a ryzen processor by using one of those trapezium shaped utility knife blades. worked well by correcting the few badly bent pins using the point, and then going row by row, fixing the slightly bent pins using the flat. just glad none of the pins broke.
A box cutter Razor Blade does wonders on straightening pins out. About as long as the whole CPU, and rigid enough to straighten out the pins evenly whilst being thin enough to fit in the gaps.
I liked that you used a blade for fixing it. I have always used a razor blade from a utility knife, because I can set it flat against the chip and just tilt it the same way you are, using the other pins as a guide for alignment.
I resoldered 41 pins back to a 3900x once, im not sure why I did it but I don't have the courage to ever pull it out of the motherboard its in lol Great work as always!
Absolutely stunning repair job there, i would of lost my shit if i had to straighten that many. Ive found in most cases of a few bent ones the end of a cheap biro pen is the perfect fit to slide over the pin and bend straight
I don't know if the spacing is the same, but I always used a credit card to straighten bent pins as it slotted perfectly between the pins. Of course, the owner of this Ryzen 9 is also using a credit card to straighten his pins, lol. AM3+/FM2 was the last time I had to fix pins to put that all into perspective. Of course I posted before watching it to the end and at 11:00 you address this. I'm not surprised the newer chips cannot allow this, they have many more pins than AM3+/FM2.
Hi Alex, I won't do a comment only to do a comment but to share my "experience" about bent pins: I didn't believe to credit card to straight bent pins, but I have a swiss knife that can make the job as your blade do, I used it sucessfully a long time ago, when I learned to assemble a PC, I bent some pin and straighted them with this knife (it has over 20 years and do always good jobs) I learn a lot with your techniques on SMD, maybe in the future I could propose this service in place to send clients to specialist here in France. It is not impossible I order in the future some of your tools, I need only to see how to deal with tax and bills for international trade, as I have a business and some ruyles to respect in my country. Cheers.
The #1 fine point exacto knife blade is 10 X better than the #1 utility exacto blade Alex is using. The fine point blade just slide under and through the pins separating them quickly. A must try Alex👍👍
How the owner did this amount of damage to their CPU I have no idea... However I did bend a few pins on a 5800x3D CPU a few weeks back after clumsily dropping it from the box. I fixed the pins myself using a razor blade and a precision flathead screw driver. Took me about an hours worth of work. I then hinged the CPU in the motherboard socket repeatedly with the handle to ensure any imperfections or misalignment were corrected by the socket itself. Happy to say CPU works perfectly.
10:20 Credit Cards were used on old procesors. The only way to use one today is if you sharpen the cc with a sandpaper and get some fine edges. I use them a lot to pry cause i'm always losing the spikes or spatulas.
I bent a ton of pins on my 3900x .. luckily it still works . Just word of advice when you go to take fan off have cpu nice and hot before hand and twist cooler as much as you can multiple times. I didn't and the cpu stuck to fan and ripped out of socket with the heat sink
I'd like to add in a little potentially useful info.. Maybe... :) Back when I was doing bench work I kept 2 mechanical pencils in my drawer, a 0.7mm and a 0.9mm. I never put lead in them, as they were used specifically for straightening CPU pins. They were PERFECT for this task. not sure how well it would work with a microscope but with the ring light magnifier it works fine. If you try this, make sure you get good pencils with steel tips. Working slow and steady is the key, and with the thousands of pins I straightened I never broke a single one. :)
I fix my Ryzen 5 3600 that was sent by a friend from Germany to UK and arrived with a lot of bent pins I used my phone's camera and a Stanley blade to fix it and to this day it's still going strong 😁
I dropped my 5600x on the floor and had to do this with a razor blade, it works great now, no issues. Pro tip: if you're removing a cpu from the socket, heat it up first, to losen the thermal paste
I was able to straighten the bent pins using a thin blade and my cellphone camera for making sure they were all straight. Had to wiggle a little after that to get that sinking feel when you place the CPU on the socket.
Northridgefix, a hollow needle from a ink cartridge refill kit works very good for straightening bent CPU pins. It's much faster and precise. It will make your job easier and quicker with much better control. Try it, you won't regret it.
Hey Alex i always like your videos and enjoy watching them so no disrespect💯. But how many $ u wil charge for fixen these pins? What I mean that old ryzen 9 3900x cost used 200$ (or less) its more economical to buy a used one? Right?
This happend most of the time when the cpu is stuck to the cooler and you wonna remove the cooler from the cpu. i´m glad that they fix this with the AM5 socket.
You don't need to know many cap values. Just use the largest nF value in that package size. Specific values are for things like oscillators, not data line termination or decoupling caps in most cases.
random questions probably come from new viewers. Even if you think they are too obvious, they are signs of your success in bringing new people to your site. I don't think the questions come from idiots.
@derbauer would know the values of the resistors. That has happened due to 'delidding' or remove the IHS off the CPU to replace the thermal compound or, do direct to die cooling.
U need a pin and carpetknife blade. With pin u bend and if blade u can move between rows, then it fits into the socket. With older am2/3 etc bank card was a measurement.
Also 1 neat trick you can do is you can take amd fx pins which are taller then normal ryzen pins and easier to attach to broken pins in the middle of the cpu.
I use credit card with older cpu's, eg 486 pentium 1. it fits perfectly and you can run the card in the pin slots back and forth or use it like a blade. It works but they are older cpu's with les pins.
Sorry for the question and I may have missed when you said the answer but where can I buy the blade that you are using? I have a USB microscope with a stand but as you have shown, a credit card does not really work. Screwdrivers are either too big or they move the pin too much. I have some older cpus to practice with but need the correct tools. I tried a sewing needle but it was too small.
it would be worth while making a tool with the centre of the shaft drilled out so you can place over the pins and straighten them that way once they are close to being straight
They could have not been the original guys who did the fix. The CPU even looks like it came out of the garbage, full of scratches and bits broken off at the edges.
I know alot of pople choose to use alot of crazy stuff instead of just getting blade nr. 1 credit cards and whatnot, I just used a wallpaper knife taken out of the handle when i dropped my APU on the table and bent the pins
that's why i never bothered with Amd up to this point until they swapped to LGA, those pins are so finicky and annoying and scary and it's not just the pins the struggle when you try to get the cooler off to repaste the thermal paste too. maybe it's just me but i like to stay on the safe side as possible.
Hey @northridgefix you should check out the pointy qtips. My wife uses them for makeup and they are great to use for hard to get places. I use them to clean off thermal paste from CPUs.
Could it be that the pc got bumped or fell and a heavy cpu cooler pulled the cpu out of the socket and bent/damaged the pins? Or is it just a user using a hammer to knock the cpu imto its socket?
Great video, your sound disappears at 16.30
I thought it was only me 😂
It looks like the video didn't encode properly from my end. I have audio on the original. I'll try to add the missing audio using the TH-cam editor.
Drop it on the floor from few feet and there you go you will probly bent a lor of pins
Oh I thought maybe it was “!$&@$)$&&@!…$$&&@?!
Then end of the video is missing too
Remarkable patience and skill with this repair. You never cease to amaze me.
audio decided to go home at 16:00 🤣
amazing job!! 👍
Audio left the chat at the end of the video 🤣🤣🤣
your words at the end of the video were really inspiring, we will keep them in secret ;-)
i've seen someone unbending the pins using a lead holder, inserting the pin into the fine tube, but your work was fine too. Good work
u know what i was listening to his words at the end and liked to video, so inspiring
That is the way we unbent pins in a cannon plug on a F-14. Use a matching female diameter receptacle a pushed it down and the slowly unbent the pin.
These ryzen cpus are ideal for testing your soldering skills. I practiced on one of these when I was teaching myself soldering techniques. If you can solder 1 pin in the middle, with pins around it, then you can solder most any microscopic components.
They are a perfect practice platform.
Alex I admire your patience or whatever comes from your love of electronics.
Greetings from Greece.
Very enjoyable to watch a pro such as yourself make it seem so simple.
I straightened around 20 severely bent pins on my brand new 5900X after accidentally ripping it from the socket. I used a pair of needle-nosed pliers and a very THIN plastic card (like from a hotel) or a guitar pick. I didn't even have a magnifying glass. I am amazed it worked without breaking off any pins! I was really lucky they were mostly on the first two rows on one side.
Pro tip: Use a mechanical pencil instead
how does one accidentally rip the cpu from the socket?
I was stressed out the entire time. Excellent job under pressure, Alex.
the great thing about your job is that you are always working on various repairs, it is not a monotonous job for you. great job as always 😊
I've been doing a lot of soldering but never under a microscope. Tried it the other day and I now have a huge respect for the work you do. Crazy hard.
11:12 this is gold :D
i love the brutal honesty
I miss few hearbits when I see someone touching those pins. You are blessed one Alex!
This repair was so mesmerizing.
Great work
Steady hand.
I've fixed bent pins with razor blades mechanical pencils credit cards and tweezers.
I like the credit card plus tweezers method.
I use credit cards too, it works great, keeps the line true and straight
You guys must be repairing some big CPUs because he just disproved the credit card method
Credit cards used to be good when the pin density wasn't as high as it is with more modern processors
mechanical pencils worked best for me back in the athlon xp days
@@nintones4100 Well it's gonna be a non issue soon anyway since we're moving to AM5 and obviously you wouldn't use the credit card on every single bent pin, I would use tweezers too on the bent edge pins. It's just a good way to check if the line is straight or not. It's more of a reference than anything else, I never said I used it to bend all the pins
He make this look so easy, trust me is not that easy, good job man :)
I expected the use of the needle hole in a cut syringe to handle these tiny pins. But you did it in your special way.
Alex you lived up to my nicmane I gave you, The PC Surgeon. As usual 1st class class job mate.
The end of the video really made me go and listen "The Sound of Silence"! Hello darkness, my old friend... I've come to talk with you again... 🎶
thankyou you made my day better , i dont have a miroscope like you , i just have a normal phone (samssung a71) and i use it as a miroscope , and i just did a job like you bending a cpu pin for my customer
I just love the confidence he has, the kind that only comes from years of experience. He is so confident in what he uses that he is a distributor of sorts, but the way he says it's better than factory or how the pins are perfectly straight. I am too OCD about that stuff, if it is shiny or not is simple yet seemingly correct fundamentally. There are many methods to fix or repair boards/chips, some are better than others, as long as you ultimately get the desired result- what is the difference? I love unorthodox mechanisms and presuppose that just because someone is more educated institutionally speaking, doesn't mean that they are indeed smarter or more knowledgeable.. as if that is a qualifying factor for whether or not someone has more credibility. I learn more from watching these hardened professionals in their specific forte operate on a higher level of functionality than I do from anyone who is a mere academic professor. Which seems to be quite the norm
heheh you saw a non-shiny one didn't you? and it bothered you deeply. ahahah
I only care that it works, I don't get them crazy straight, just straight enough to fit in the socket. I am only doing it for fun on junk parts though. Its only hyperbole anyway.
I straightened pins of a ryzen processor by using one of those trapezium shaped utility knife blades.
worked well by correcting the few badly bent pins using the point, and then going row by row, fixing the slightly bent pins using the flat.
just glad none of the pins broke.
A box cutter Razor Blade does wonders on straightening pins out. About as long as the whole CPU, and rigid enough to straighten out the pins evenly whilst being thin enough to fit in the gaps.
I liked that you used a blade for fixing it. I have always used a razor blade from a utility knife, because I can set it flat against the chip and just tilt it the same way you are, using the other pins as a guide for alignment.
We as a community should give Alex a wireless modmic for all he has taught us and inspired us to become technicians.
I resoldered 41 pins back to a 3900x once, im not sure why I did it but I don't have the courage to ever pull it out of the motherboard its in lol Great work as always!
Absolutely stunning repair job there, i would of lost my shit if i had to straighten that many. Ive found in most cases of a few bent ones the end of a cheap biro pen is the perfect fit to slide over the pin and bend straight
I don't know if the spacing is the same, but I always used a credit card to straighten bent pins as it slotted perfectly between the pins. Of course, the owner of this Ryzen 9 is also using a credit card to straighten his pins, lol. AM3+/FM2 was the last time I had to fix pins to put that all into perspective. Of course I posted before watching it to the end and at 11:00 you address this. I'm not surprised the newer chips cannot allow this, they have many more pins than AM3+/FM2.
The blade does it best... Some people have something to say and some people have to say something.... There is a difference.. great job as always.
Mic test 123. Great video Alex thank you.
Hi Alex,
I won't do a comment only to do a comment but to share my "experience" about bent pins:
I didn't believe to credit card to straight bent pins, but I have a swiss knife that can make the job as your blade do, I used it sucessfully a long time ago, when I learned to assemble a PC, I bent some pin and straighted them with this knife (it has over 20 years and do always good jobs)
I learn a lot with your techniques on SMD, maybe in the future I could propose this service in place to send clients to specialist here in France. It is not impossible I order in the future some of your tools, I need only to see how to deal with tax and bills for international trade, as I have a business and some ruyles to respect in my country.
Cheers.
The #1 fine point exacto knife blade is 10 X better than the #1 utility exacto blade Alex is using. The fine point blade just slide under and through the pins separating them quickly. A must try Alex👍👍
How the owner did this amount of damage to their CPU I have no idea...
However I did bend a few pins on a 5800x3D CPU a few weeks back after clumsily dropping it from the box. I fixed the pins myself using a razor blade and a precision flathead screw driver.
Took me about an hours worth of work.
I then hinged the CPU in the motherboard socket repeatedly with the handle to ensure any imperfections or misalignment were corrected by the socket itself.
Happy to say CPU works perfectly.
You can use a .5mm automatic pencil with the lead removed and slip it over a pin to straighten it. Or change to a diameter that will fit.
10:20 Credit Cards were used on old procesors. The only way to use one today is if you sharpen the cc with a sandpaper and get some fine edges. I use them a lot to pry cause i'm always losing the spikes or spatulas.
Good job Alex you always do a good job
That cpu was truly mangled. I mean, just how do people achieve this?
Improper seating in socket and application of clamp force.
Not really that hard, just a fumble of the hands and a drop on the floor.
Sometimes cpu is deadly sticked to cooler with thermal paste. When you remove cooler, it tears cpu from socket and bend pins.
@@MandoMTL if in doubt, always see reference materials. Been building computers since the p2 era lol
The one with a missing resistors, maybe a recycled PC?
perfect talent for repair the cpu broken and bent pins wonderfull
good sound at the final of the clip :)
I bent a ton of pins on my 3900x .. luckily it still works . Just word of advice when you go to take fan off have cpu nice and hot before hand and twist cooler as much as you can multiple times. I didn't and the cpu stuck to fan and ripped out of socket with the heat sink
I'd like to add in a little potentially useful info.. Maybe... :) Back when I was doing bench work I kept 2 mechanical pencils in my drawer, a 0.7mm and a 0.9mm. I never put lead in them, as they were used specifically for straightening CPU pins. They were PERFECT for this task. not sure how well it would work with a microscope but with the ring light magnifier it works fine. If you try this, make sure you get good pencils with steel tips. Working slow and steady is the key, and with the thousands of pins I straightened I never broke a single one. :)
Yeah unless is 90deg angle it works great.
I fix my Ryzen 5 3600 that was sent by a friend from Germany to UK and arrived with a lot of bent pins I used my phone's camera and a Stanley blade to fix it and to this day it's still going strong 😁
But its not important to measure those component out side of the board? Maybe value will be different outside of circuit?
It’s cool to see how the light reflects a certain way on the bent pins!! So aligning them would be a matching game :)
awesome job👍
I dropped my 5600x on the floor and had to do this with a razor blade, it works great now, no issues. Pro tip:
if you're removing a cpu from the socket, heat it up first, to losen the thermal paste
Is it worth it to repair in the shop? 3900 is like $100-150. Shipping and repair probably more.
good question!
They are $365 no?
Nice going on the fix.
What a nice throwback :D Linus or JayZ should watch this.
Credit cards were used for this issue before AM4 was a thing, AM3, AM2, FM2, etc sockets have wider pin spacing
By the way, great Jackie Mason impression!
I was able to straighten the bent pins using a thin blade and my cellphone camera for making sure they were all straight. Had to wiggle a little after that to get that sinking feel when you place the CPU on the socket.
Nicely done
Alex you became me new hero
Northridgefix, a hollow needle from a ink cartridge refill kit works very good for straightening bent CPU pins. It's much faster and precise. It will make your job easier and quicker with much better control. Try it, you won't regret it.
Good job mate 👍
Too bad the mic cut out at the end but I am glad you saw the middle resoldered pin was off-grid and fixed that.
Could have ended badly. Eagle eyes :)
Hey Alex i always like your videos and enjoy watching them so no disrespect💯. But how many $ u wil charge for fixen these pins? What I mean that old ryzen 9 3900x cost used 200$ (or less) its more economical to buy a used one? Right?
Amazing job 👍
This happend most of the time when the cpu is stuck to the cooler and you wonna remove the cooler from the cpu.
i´m glad that they fix this with the AM5 socket.
That's why "wiggle wiggle cooler" is your friend before pulling out.
@@alesksander In my am4 times i could slide the cooler to the side.... worked wel.
You don't need to know many cap values. Just use the largest nF value in that package size. Specific values are for things like oscillators, not data line termination or decoupling caps in most cases.
random questions probably come from new viewers. Even if you think they are too obvious, they are signs of your success in bringing new people to your site. I don't think the questions come from idiots.
We use printer ink syringes to align the processor pins
That works well, so can an empty mechanical pencil.
@derbauer would know the values of the resistors. That has happened due to 'delidding' or remove the IHS off the CPU to replace the thermal compound or, do direct to die cooling.
I used the hollow tip of a mechanical pencil for the worst ones, a syringe could also work, finish up with credit card or knife as shown.
U need a pin and carpetknife blade. With pin u bend and if blade u can move between rows, then it fits into the socket. With older am2/3 etc bank card was a measurement.
Good job on the pin the customer soldered, it was bothering me and u fix my ocd. 😛
As far as bending pins back, I use a mix of an xacto knife and a small flat head screw driver
No Alex, I actually used a card before to straighten the pins on a CPU. Some banks have really thin cards and they even break easily.😅
Also 1 neat trick you can do is you can take amd fx pins which are taller then normal ryzen pins and easier to attach to broken pins in the middle of the cpu.
Nice and silent video at the end 😀
I use credit card with older cpu's, eg 486 pentium 1. it fits perfectly and you can run the card in the pin slots back and forth or use it like a blade. It works but they are older cpu's with les pins.
I have used a guitar pick to straighten some pins recently.
Don't you have to remove the resisters before testing to get an accurate reading?
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe you can measure resistance accurately. However capacitance is another matter.
i cant believe this man just saved a ryzen 9
I use a mechanical pencil. It fits perfectly on the pins.
Sorry for the question and I may have missed when you said the answer but where can I buy the blade that you are using? I have a USB microscope with a stand but as you have shown, a credit card does not really work. Screwdrivers are either too big or they move the pin too much. I have some older cpus to practice with but need the correct tools. I tried a sewing needle but it was too small.
16:30 It's like I'm watching a game without commenting
A Stanley knife blade worked for me, really careful though.
What temps did you use when soldering the pins with hot air?
it would be worth while making a tool with the centre of the shaft drilled out so you can place over the pins and straighten them that way once they are close to being straight
how did they manage to re attach a pin but not bend other pins back themselves ? one is much harder than the other..
They could have not been the original guys who did the fix. The CPU even looks like it came out of the garbage, full of scratches and bits broken off at the edges.
Your the best unshiner mate
16:01 onwards has no sound for me, I dunno if you saying anything important...
Last year I've fixed an old Socket 940 CPU that was stepped onto!! About half of the pins were laying almost flat.
Did someone try to insert it into a socket incorrectly or something? Or just rest it on a table pin-side-down and push on it?
Customer did a nice job in the soldering doe.
I know alot of pople choose to use alot of crazy stuff instead of just getting blade nr. 1 credit cards and whatnot, I just used a wallpaper knife taken out of the handle when i dropped my APU on the table and bent the pins
that's why i never bothered with Amd up to this point until they swapped to LGA, those pins are so finicky and annoying and scary and it's not just the pins the struggle when you try to get the cooler off to repaste the thermal paste too. maybe it's just me but i like to stay on the safe side as possible.
Wait 'till you have to fix the pins on an LGA socket! Makes fixing CPU pins look like child's play.
I have used credit cards on old AM3+ CPUs, I assume the pitch of the pins on AM4/5 is smaller due to more pins though?
What blade are you using, did I here correctly blade number 2?
The customer who sent it in was not the guy that resoldered the pin.
Hey @northridgefix you should check out the pointy qtips. My wife uses them for makeup and they are great to use for hard to get places. I use them to clean off thermal paste from CPUs.
I literally thought you accidentally blew the pins off when you showed the donor board.
What's that blade and gooey stuff you're using? 😆
Lol I was gonna say if nobody asked then there’s something wrong with TH-cam commenters.
Asking restores balance to the universe. 😁
Could it be that the pc got bumped or fell and a heavy cpu cooler pulled the cpu out of the socket and bent/damaged the pins?
Or is it just a user using a hammer to knock the cpu imto its socket?
I have a 3600 that had few bent pins that I straightened out. Now my B memory channel doesn’t work. Any idea if those bent pins could’ve caused that??
I have heard much about using a push pencil to fix bent pins. Given that you select a pencil that fit snugly around the pin. Does it work?
What is that blade you are using?
To repair bent pins I use a plastic card which I had to do a number of times in the past