Ryzen 9 3900x. Over 40 bent and damaged pins. Is it fixable?
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Great video, your sound disappears at 16.30
I thought it was only me 😂
It looks like the video didn't encode properly from my end. I have audio on the original. I'll try to add the missing audio using the TH-cam editor.
Drop it on the floor from few feet and there you go you will probly bent a lor of pins
Oh I thought maybe it was “!$&@$)$&&@!…$$&&@?!
Then end of the video is missing too
Remarkable patience and skill with this repair. You never cease to amaze me.
audio decided to go home at 16:00 🤣
amazing job!! 👍
Audio left the chat at the end of the video 🤣🤣🤣
your words at the end of the video were really inspiring, we will keep them in secret ;-)
i've seen someone unbending the pins using a lead holder, inserting the pin into the fine tube, but your work was fine too. Good work
The last words are only for subscribers. If you are a troll, you won't hear anything.
u know what i was listening to his words at the end and liked to video, so inspiring
That is the way we unbent pins in a cannon plug on a F-14. Use a matching female diameter receptacle a pushed it down and the slowly unbent the pin.
Very enjoyable to watch a pro such as yourself make it seem so simple.
These ryzen cpus are ideal for testing your soldering skills. I practiced on one of these when I was teaching myself soldering techniques. If you can solder 1 pin in the middle, with pins around it, then you can solder most any microscopic components.
They are a perfect practice platform.
Alex I admire your patience or whatever comes from your love of electronics.
Greetings from Greece.
This repair was so mesmerizing.
the great thing about your job is that you are always working on various repairs, it is not a monotonous job for you. great job as always 😊
I miss few hearbits when I see someone touching those pins. You are blessed one Alex!
I was stressed out the entire time. Excellent job under pressure, Alex.
good sound at the final of the clip :)
Nice going on the fix.
Alex you lived up to my nicmane I gave you, The PC Surgeon. As usual 1st class class job mate.
I liked that you used a blade for fixing it. I have always used a razor blade from a utility knife, because I can set it flat against the chip and just tilt it the same way you are, using the other pins as a guide for alignment.
I straightened around 20 severely bent pins on my brand new 5900X after accidentally ripping it from the socket. I used a pair of needle-nosed pliers and a very THIN plastic card (like from a hotel) or a guitar pick. I didn't even have a magnifying glass. I am amazed it worked without breaking off any pins! I was really lucky they were mostly on the first two rows on one side.
Pro tip: Use a mechanical pencil instead
how does one accidentally rip the cpu from the socket?
I've been doing a lot of soldering but never under a microscope. Tried it the other day and I now have a huge respect for the work you do. Crazy hard.
I expected the use of the needle hole in a cut syringe to handle these tiny pins. But you did it in your special way.
He make this look so easy, trust me is not that easy, good job man :)
Absolutely stunning repair job there, i would of lost my shit if i had to straighten that many. Ive found in most cases of a few bent ones the end of a cheap biro pen is the perfect fit to slide over the pin and bend straight
thankyou you made my day better , i dont have a miroscope like you , i just have a normal phone (samssung a71) and i use it as a miroscope , and i just did a job like you bending a cpu pin for my customer
Good job Alex you always do a good job
11:12 this is gold :D
i love the brutal honesty
Nicely done
perfect talent for repair the cpu broken and bent pins wonderfull
Good job mate 👍
I just love the confidence he has, the kind that only comes from years of experience. He is so confident in what he uses that he is a distributor of sorts, but the way he says it's better than factory or how the pins are perfectly straight. I am too OCD about that stuff, if it is shiny or not is simple yet seemingly correct fundamentally. There are many methods to fix or repair boards/chips, some are better than others, as long as you ultimately get the desired result- what is the difference? I love unorthodox mechanisms and presuppose that just because someone is more educated institutionally speaking, doesn't mean that they are indeed smarter or more knowledgeable.. as if that is a qualifying factor for whether or not someone has more credibility. I learn more from watching these hardened professionals in their specific forte operate on a higher level of functionality than I do from anyone who is a mere academic professor. Which seems to be quite the norm
heheh you saw a non-shiny one didn't you? and it bothered you deeply. ahahah
I only care that it works, I don't get them crazy straight, just straight enough to fit in the socket. I am only doing it for fun on junk parts though. Its only hyperbole anyway.
The end of the video really made me go and listen "The Sound of Silence"! Hello darkness, my old friend... I've come to talk with you again... 🎶
awesome job👍
We as a community should give Alex a wireless modmic for all he has taught us and inspired us to become technicians.
I straightened pins of a ryzen processor by using one of those trapezium shaped utility knife blades.
worked well by correcting the few badly bent pins using the point, and then going row by row, fixing the slightly bent pins using the flat.
just glad none of the pins broke.
Mic test 123. Great video Alex thank you.
A box cutter Razor Blade does wonders on straightening pins out. About as long as the whole CPU, and rigid enough to straighten out the pins evenly whilst being thin enough to fit in the gaps.
I resoldered 41 pins back to a 3900x once, im not sure why I did it but I don't have the courage to ever pull it out of the motherboard its in lol Great work as always!
Great work
Steady hand.
I've fixed bent pins with razor blades mechanical pencils credit cards and tweezers.
I like the credit card plus tweezers method.
I use credit cards too, it works great, keeps the line true and straight
You guys must be repairing some big CPUs because he just disproved the credit card method
Credit cards used to be good when the pin density wasn't as high as it is with more modern processors
mechanical pencils worked best for me back in the athlon xp days
@@nintones4100 Well it's gonna be a non issue soon anyway since we're moving to AM5 and obviously you wouldn't use the credit card on every single bent pin, I would use tweezers too on the bent edge pins. It's just a good way to check if the line is straight or not. It's more of a reference than anything else, I never said I used it to bend all the pins
Amazing job 👍
By the way, great Jackie Mason impression!
I use a mechanical pencil. It fits perfectly on the pins.
Too bad the mic cut out at the end but I am glad you saw the middle resoldered pin was off-grid and fixed that.
Could have ended badly. Eagle eyes :)
The blade does it best... Some people have something to say and some people have to say something.... There is a difference.. great job as always.
It’s cool to see how the light reflects a certain way on the bent pins!! So aligning them would be a matching game :)
The #1 fine point exacto knife blade is 10 X better than the #1 utility exacto blade Alex is using. The fine point blade just slide under and through the pins separating them quickly. A must try Alex👍👍
I was able to straighten the bent pins using a thin blade and my cellphone camera for making sure they were all straight. Had to wiggle a little after that to get that sinking feel when you place the CPU on the socket.
Nice and silent video at the end 😀
I fix my Ryzen 5 3600 that was sent by a friend from Germany to UK and arrived with a lot of bent pins I used my phone's camera and a Stanley blade to fix it and to this day it's still going strong 😁
I don't know if the spacing is the same, but I always used a credit card to straighten bent pins as it slotted perfectly between the pins. Of course, the owner of this Ryzen 9 is also using a credit card to straighten his pins, lol. AM3+/FM2 was the last time I had to fix pins to put that all into perspective. Of course I posted before watching it to the end and at 11:00 you address this. I'm not surprised the newer chips cannot allow this, they have many more pins than AM3+/FM2.
16:30 It's like I'm watching a game without commenting
You can use a .5mm automatic pencil with the lead removed and slip it over a pin to straighten it. Or change to a diameter that will fit.
I'd like to add in a little potentially useful info.. Maybe... :) Back when I was doing bench work I kept 2 mechanical pencils in my drawer, a 0.7mm and a 0.9mm. I never put lead in them, as they were used specifically for straightening CPU pins. They were PERFECT for this task. not sure how well it would work with a microscope but with the ring light magnifier it works fine. If you try this, make sure you get good pencils with steel tips. Working slow and steady is the key, and with the thousands of pins I straightened I never broke a single one. :)
Yeah unless is 90deg angle it works great.
Good job on the pin the customer soldered, it was bothering me and u fix my ocd. 😛
How the owner did this amount of damage to their CPU I have no idea...
However I did bend a few pins on a 5800x3D CPU a few weeks back after clumsily dropping it from the box. I fixed the pins myself using a razor blade and a precision flathead screw driver.
Took me about an hours worth of work.
I then hinged the CPU in the motherboard socket repeatedly with the handle to ensure any imperfections or misalignment were corrected by the socket itself.
Happy to say CPU works perfectly.
This happend most of the time when the cpu is stuck to the cooler and you wonna remove the cooler from the cpu.
i´m glad that they fix this with the AM5 socket.
That's why "wiggle wiggle cooler" is your friend before pulling out.
@@alesksander In my am4 times i could slide the cooler to the side.... worked wel.
I bent a ton of pins on my 3900x .. luckily it still works . Just word of advice when you go to take fan off have cpu nice and hot before hand and twist cooler as much as you can multiple times. I didn't and the cpu stuck to fan and ripped out of socket with the heat sink
Alex you became me new hero
That cpu was truly mangled. I mean, just how do people achieve this?
Improper seating in socket and application of clamp force.
Not really that hard, just a fumble of the hands and a drop on the floor.
Sometimes cpu is deadly sticked to cooler with thermal paste. When you remove cooler, it tears cpu from socket and bend pins.
@@MandoMTL if in doubt, always see reference materials. Been building computers since the p2 era lol
The one with a missing resistors, maybe a recycled PC?
Hi Alex,
I won't do a comment only to do a comment but to share my "experience" about bent pins:
I didn't believe to credit card to straight bent pins, but I have a swiss knife that can make the job as your blade do, I used it sucessfully a long time ago, when I learned to assemble a PC, I bent some pin and straighted them with this knife (it has over 20 years and do always good jobs)
I learn a lot with your techniques on SMD, maybe in the future I could propose this service in place to send clients to specialist here in France. It is not impossible I order in the future some of your tools, I need only to see how to deal with tax and bills for international trade, as I have a business and some ruyles to respect in my country.
Cheers.
In the same program series as Padripper Pro, we find Pinbender Pro, which the customer certainly used in this case! :-)
Alex i think you should make special tool for bend cpu pins to help straight them out great video
What a nice throwback :D Linus or JayZ should watch this.
But its not important to measure those component out side of the board? Maybe value will be different outside of circuit?
Also 1 neat trick you can do is you can take amd fx pins which are taller then normal ryzen pins and easier to attach to broken pins in the middle of the cpu.
Customer did a nice job in the soldering doe.
I have used a guitar pick to straighten some pins recently.
10:20 Credit Cards were used on old procesors. The only way to use one today is if you sharpen the cc with a sandpaper and get some fine edges. I use them a lot to pry cause i'm always losing the spikes or spatulas.
Im actually surprised when finally back to processor with pin during my upgrade with Ryzen 5 2600, its so dense and small compared to socket 478 and AM2 processor I have the last time.
Credit cards were used for this issue before AM4 was a thing, AM3, AM2, FM2, etc sockets have wider pin spacing
Is it worth it to repair in the shop? 3900 is like $100-150. Shipping and repair probably more.
good question!
They are $365 no?
@derbauer would know the values of the resistors. That has happened due to 'delidding' or remove the IHS off the CPU to replace the thermal compound or, do direct to die cooling.
Northridgefix, a hollow needle from a ink cartridge refill kit works very good for straightening bent CPU pins. It's much faster and precise. It will make your job easier and quicker with much better control. Try it, you won't regret it.
A Stanley knife blade worked for me, really careful though.
Soo many bent pins... I found using toe nail clippings works great for straightening them out.. :D
Hey Alex i always like your videos and enjoy watching them so no disrespect💯. But how many $ u wil charge for fixen these pins? What I mean that old ryzen 9 3900x cost used 200$ (or less) its more economical to buy a used one? Right?
As far as bending pins back, I use a mix of an xacto knife and a small flat head screw driver
The customer who sent it in was not the guy that resoldered the pin.
Hey @northridgefix you should check out the pointy qtips. My wife uses them for makeup and they are great to use for hard to get places. I use them to clean off thermal paste from CPUs.
I dropped my 5600x on the floor and had to do this with a razor blade, it works great now, no issues. Pro tip:
if you're removing a cpu from the socket, heat it up first, to losen the thermal paste
No Alex, I actually used a card before to straighten the pins on a CPU. Some banks have really thin cards and they even break easily.😅
random questions probably come from new viewers. Even if you think they are too obvious, they are signs of your success in bringing new people to your site. I don't think the questions come from idiots.
Last year I've fixed an old Socket 940 CPU that was stepped onto!! About half of the pins were laying almost flat.
it would be worth while making a tool with the centre of the shaft drilled out so you can place over the pins and straighten them that way once they are close to being straight
Sorry for the question and I may have missed when you said the answer but where can I buy the blade that you are using? I have a USB microscope with a stand but as you have shown, a credit card does not really work. Screwdrivers are either too big or they move the pin too much. I have some older cpus to practice with but need the correct tools. I tried a sewing needle but it was too small.
I used the hollow tip of a mechanical pencil for the worst ones, a syringe could also work, finish up with credit card or knife as shown.
I use credit card with older cpu's, eg 486 pentium 1. it fits perfectly and you can run the card in the pin slots back and forth or use it like a blade. It works but they are older cpu's with les pins.
Your the best unshiner mate
love you'r videos
We use printer ink syringes to align the processor pins
That works well, so can an empty mechanical pencil.
You don't need to know many cap values. Just use the largest nF value in that package size. Specific values are for things like oscillators, not data line termination or decoupling caps in most cases.
U need a pin and carpetknife blade. With pin u bend and if blade u can move between rows, then it fits into the socket. With older am2/3 etc bank card was a measurement.
good video brate
i cant believe this man just saved a ryzen 9
Finally I watched your full video 😅.
I'm a great fan of you 😎.
I have a question is Intel's LGA processors better than amd pga processors?
All work and no play makes Alex shiney
Great work Alex! Patience, skill, steady hand ,amazing 1I would say that the AMD is more fixable than the intel CPU because of the way the pins are made into the chip.
Their AM5 is now LGA instead of PGA like this AM4
From Socket 775 I think Intel started to switch the pins from CPU to MB. But then isn't that why the Intel CPU then fail much less because there are no pins? A MB is a cheaper option than replacing the CPU.
But then again... fixing pins on the MB is to me harder than pins on the CPU. I'd rather have those :P
@@MrEp5easier to solder a new socket package onto a motherboard than a CPU though, depending on the design.
I use the end of a 2.0mm mechanical pencil of course empty, it works great
Im a Intel fanboy, but nice job on AMD, good videos Alex
It escapes me how people treat such delicate and expensive items so badly :( I suspect a lot of it is this throwaway society where people have far far more money than brain cells and watching your channel its atrocity or disaster on so many items. I have joined the big boys gang too, I promised myself if I got a decent scope I would follow up with a dedicated hot air station, got a modular one which has soldering iron that uses the standard cartridge tips but also has a very good hot air gun both having their own control settings and gauges. Was a bit miffed last week as I bought a Panasonic DAB music centre listed as spares repairs... checked the fuse expecting it to be something internal and just had a blown plug fuse, 2 seconds later it came to life and that cost me £10 delivered plus £7.50 for a new Panasonic remote, I don't care as a fix is a fix hehehe I do have a Denon hi fi that needs a fix and a Pioneer 6 CD changer separates that needs a repair to the CD mechanism so works out OK in the end :D
Did someone try to insert it into a socket incorrectly or something? Or just rest it on a table pin-side-down and push on it?
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Looking at this makes my stomach churn. How do you manage to do so much damage? 🤯
credit cards used to work :D too small gap between pins nowadays lol