No Neutral Smart Light Switch - Unboxing and Fitting
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- IIf you want to upgrade your light switches to smart switches you are going to need a live and a neutral wire to connect these switches up.
If you live in the UK the chances are you do not have a neutral cable in your light switches. Most people in the UK will have a loop in system which means there is only a live cable going to the light switch.
After much digging, I finally found a company who make No Neutral smart light switches for the UK.
I bought one from here - www.wifi-smart-home.co.uk/smar...
I am not affiliated with these guys.
So far the switch has been flawless and workes well with my Alexa Echo Plus.
Here is a list of everything used to complete this job
Light Switch - www.wifi-smart-home.co.uk/one-...
Alexa - amzn.to/2LIxfqC
Screwdriver - amzn.to/2InZLf5
Electrical Tape - amzn.to/31Y5ZKk
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UPDATE
Some of these switches are popping up on eBay and now on Amazon. I have no idea of the quality but they are a good bit cheaper and may be worth checking out. Here are a couple of affiliate links.
Amazon - amzn.to/3fN8buS
For the UK -
ebay.to/3aF6DBI
US Ebay -
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Really good video this with all steps explained clearly. Extra bonus for hitting the mute at the end rather than saying "Alexa" and confusing everybody else's system.
Thanks for the comment. Glad you noticed the dreaded word was missing. Could have been switching lights on and off all over the world 😁.
Thanks a million for the uncomplicated video mate.
Just installed and works sweet ❤️
That's great. Glad it helped 👍
Great detailed video showing step by step. Thanks for making it. 😍🙏👍
Thank you. Hope it helps
If installing this switch with down lights would the capacitor need to go at the first point?
Hi mate. Thanks for the video. I'm a moron and am generally speaking pretty hopeless with this kind of stuff, the kind of moron to pay someone hard earned cash to get this kinda work done. Just installed my first switch and connected with Google Home without issue. Two more to do and at least something at home is gonna be smart, if not the residents 😂 thanks a million for breaking it down step by step, you saved me money and time, two valuable commodities which are hard to get in supply!
No problem - smart home stuff is a real rabbit hole. be careful or you will be spending proper money - it all starts with a light switch 😂
What led brand did you in the end because mine is still flickering. Can you post a link please? Thank you.
Will you need to take the router near the switch? My router is far away. Thanks
Hi just seen this. Sorry if I'm being daft but I have exact same as you behind light switch and followed and all good, however same issue with bulb, mine is actually staying partially dimmed even when off. However in the ceiling rose I have no neutral wire? But do I still just connect the capacitor in live and neutral inside ceiling rose?
Thanks for the tutorial! Well deserved like
Thank you 👍
Do you connect the capacitor to the live or switch live?
Thanks mate, best setup video ive seen on this. been trying to work out if i needed to install the capacitor or not before i bought them. Even better that your from Glasgow!
Thanks 👍. I would install the capacitor. Even if it does work without the capacitor you might want to use a different bulb in the future that may need the capacitor in there.
A fellow weegie I presume 😊👍
@@handymancraftglasgow I am indeed. Issue I'm having is that the switch feeds external led down lighters that have a really thin profile so not sure the capacitor will fit. Think I'll just need to buy it and try it 👍
It can be difficult if you don't have much room. Hope it goes well 👍
thanks for the update for ebay, they've nearly doubled the price with their new switches and it's really put me off buying them. your video was a great guide.
Thank you and thanks for the comment. I am looking at other switches and seeing how they compare.
Thanks for the very useful video. I am going to install mine tomorrow :-).
Great.Good luck👍
Hi. What capacitor suggest to buy? Thanks.
Great video, really simple guidance. But I have a problem. My lights will just turn on and off quickly as a disco light. Any idea what am I doing wrong? Might it be because I haven't instaled the smart lights yet?
Install the Capacitor. That will help.
Thanks for the video - very useful - I have a ceiling rose for all my lights (thank heavens) so I just (if I need to) wire the capacitor so that it is between both main connections - so it's in parallel with the light?
That's right. It shows you in the instructions exactly how to fit it.
@@handymancraftglasgow Thanks! The new "smart home" is a christmas present for Mrs H, so haven't looked too closely at the instructions yet. Should be an easy enough job though!
Did anybody measure the added energy intake of the anti flicker unit?
Can you set a schedule on that app or maybe on the alexa app to trigger the lights to turn on/off on a certain time?
You can schedule timers but I tend to use alexa to do that.
⚠️ Hi! Great video. I just installed the smart switch in my bedroom, which has a twin switch connection, so 2 switches operate the same lights. I replaced the dumb switch with the simpler connection by adding the common to the Neutral whole and L1 & L2 to L and L1 in the smart.
The issue is that the other dumb switch doesn’t operate the lights anymore.
Any ideas why?
Maybe because I connected the N to the common?...
Sounds like a two way switch. Not possible with this switch. Though some have used software to make it work.
I had a similar problem only that when I'd switch on the bedroom lights with the dumb switch the smart switch would get disconnected for a few minutes (the WiFi light would go off & the blue light that shows in the off position wouldn't be there) & then it would get reconnected. It frustrated me so much that I just returned the dumb switch. Kindly advise..
You can't use these as a two way switch. I tried to get my hall lights to work but not possible.
You can't use 2-way switch but there is a solution for that. There are RF switches with the same design that are battery operated and you pair them to the main switch. You don't use the wiring for the second switch. So basically that switch acts as a remote control. That of course requires the main switch to have the RF option (most do).
As an electrician, you haven’t done a bad job as a “Diy-er”. I do agree that you should only tackle any electrical work if your qualified, especially a job like this as more tests would need to be carried out. Something that a “Diy-er” wouldn’t know about. That said, I’ve seen qualified electricians do worse!!
Thanks for the comment Paul 👍
do you know the value for the capacitor ?
Hi thanks for the video, I've been thinking about investing in these,
I've check one of my houses switches and it only has 2 red wires and no white, how would the wiring work in the back of the new switch?
If it has no other wires and just the two wires in common and L1/L2 then one is the live feed to the switch and would normally be in the common terminal and the other is the live return to the lamp (either in L1 or L2). The live return is sometimes not actually a red wire but a black or blue wire with a red sleeve on it - so this is your L2. The proper red wire is your common. If they are both proper red wires then get a cheap electrical tester like this:
www.screwfix.com/p/roughneck-electrical-mains-tester-screwdriver-100-250v-ac-slotted-3-5mm-x-130mm/8606x
You can use this to test which is the actual live - just leave you mains on and test which wire gives a live indicator. Lol, you do this at your own risk of course.
Employ an electrician lol
Thanks for the video, clear and concise, just what I needed. Got it fitted and working, well sort of...
I installed one of these light switches in my kitchen to control a dual fluorescent tube, it turns on and off fine but if left on after a while it turns off on it's own, sometimes after a few minutes sometimes twenty minute later.
Could this indicate I need to install the capacitor?? Thanks
Never used one of these switches with fluorescent tubes before. I would fit the capacitor and see if it makes a difference 👍
I'm having a similar problem.. I have a 2 Gang smart switch in bedroom that controls a fluorescent tube and a non fluorescent light fixture. The capacitor is on the non-fluorescent fixture. Initially I noticed that when one switches on fluorescent , the non-fluorescent will flash on then go off then the fluorescent would go on. Now a few weeks down the line what's happening is that the fluorescent is switching itself on and off without any user action. What would you advice me to do?
Do you know if it’s possible for the LED in the power symbol on the switch face itself to be shut off unless it’s flashing for a problem? Through use of the app perhaps? Seems a bit pointless for an LED to run when lights are on and would perhaps be a little annoying in a dark room with an LED lit up on the wall
In this particular light switch it is possible to switch off the network indicator. The network indicator is a blue light that shows when the light is off. The switch will still be lit orange when the light is on.
This is possible with the eWeLink app. Not possible in the smart life app.
If there is a problem with the network and you have the indicator off you won't be able to tell by looking at the switch.
I was worried about this before I fitted them but the indicator light is so low you hardly notice it. The indicator can actually be useful for finding the switch in the dark.
If I was fitting in a bedroom I would choose an ewelink one so the indicator can be switched off.
Hope this helps 👍
What a great channel 👏
Thank you 👍
I want a switch that connects with a plug. Not bothered about linking a phone up to it. What do I need?
Very helpful video, I have a fluorescent light that kept flickering need to get an led light bulb
Hi could you tell me if I can buy the capacitor you said about in the smart light switch video.
I think you can get them on eBay.
how can I use that switch on stairs ? I have two switches to deal with that but I dont know how connect each other
You can't with no neutral switches. You can't use these in a two way set up.
Hi we have just bought a smart switch a sonoff one, we are trying to add to our fluorescent light in the kitchen, the light switch has 3 red cables in 2 together and 1 on its own, ive got it on and lit up, even set up to alexa but just won't turn the fluorescent light on and off, won't they work with those lights, or do I need something extra, I'm a newbe to smart switches and from the UK. Thanks
I do not think they will work with flourescent bulbs but I am not entirely sure. Have you fitted the capacitor?
So we don’t need the neutral wire ? And can u tell me what is the benefit of the capacitor? Because when i bought the switch it comes with audiophile , is it same?
If you have a neutral wire at the switch then use a smart switch that requires a neutral.
If you only have live wires then a no neutral switch is required.
The capacitor allows the switch to draw a bit of power it needs to run.
I don't know what audiophile is in this context.
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I need help! I’m trying to install this in my living room, it has two light switches and I thought I could just change the one. Each switch has two red cables and one black, tried sticking two reds together and it doesn’t work, do I have to find 1 gang 2 way???! Can’t find them
As far as I know 2 way no neutrals don't exist.
Do you switch all the electricity in the house off? Or just make sure the switch itself is powered off? Thanks.
If you know for sure that all your wiring is modern and 'up to code' then switching off just your up lights or down lights breaker would be fine. If it's an older house then you can't tell what might have been going on so worth killing all the power. eg: In my daughter's old flat half of the kitchen sockets stayed on when the main fuse was off. Turned out there was a separate supply for the cooker and certain sockets.
Great video mate! Only one I could find that shows how to install properly! Did you leave in the capacitor after changing the bulbs?
Yes, you just leave it in.
@HandymanCraftGlasgow Followed your tutorial and all seemed to go well. However, there are three other rooms connected on the same loop. When the lights are switched on in one of these rooms, the lights with the capacitor and smart switch fitted flash very briefly.
Any idea what might cause this?
Not sure, double check the capacitor in in properly.
necesitad alguna app para conectarll a golgle?
Well explained 👏
Thank you 👍
Hi mate did you ever fit a two gang two-way one I'm a bit baffled how to cheers
As far as I know there are no two way switches with no neutral. Have seen 1, 2 and 3 gang with no neutral but as yet no two ways.
I think there is a way to set up two smart switches to do this through automations in app, but that method would rely on WiFi.
Great video. Just what I needed. Any idea why they used to pull 2 live wires in back in the day?
No neutral in a switch, hence why they are both red to indicate live
Hi
As you only had the one lamp flickering, do you think you could has solved that flickering problem by just changing the old led for a newer style-instead of fitting the capacitor?
I tried a lot of different ways to try and get it to work but in the end I had to fit the capacitor.
@@handymancraftglasgow
Ok thanks for the reply... my issue is that I have an old one gang switch , no neutral (which I’m hoping to swap for a smart switch) feeding 3 outdoor lights so I’m wondering where about in circuit do I fit the capacitor? I was hoping I wouldn’t need one! Thanks anyway!
Good video well explained, how easy is it to remove the glass once it's been fitted to the wall?
Its easy. You pop off from the bottom, there is a place to put your screwdriver. Just don't drop the glass 😀
Hi I was wondering if you can use this switch with smart life app thanks
It only works with the eWelink app which is very basic compared to the smart life app. I have not found a way to get it to work on another app (smart life app would be amazing) but maybe someone else has had success with this.
You can use it with Google assistant after linking the ewelink account with Google.
What about if you have a 2 way switch - how would you wire that up with smart switches? I know you set up routines to sync the switches, but haven't found video to show how to replace the UK switches yet - with or without Neutral wires.
I have never done a two way switch with smart switches. Will look into it 👍
You can set up themes within the apps so that when one switch is pressed it sends a signal to another switch. This does rely on the internet being live.
How would this work if I have a fused spur light switch
I would leave the fused spur alone. Its fused because its not on the lighting ring. This switch would not be suitable.
Hi, my toilet got EXTRACTOR FAN, so can use this 1 gang 1 way switch ? Or need to 1 gang 2 way pls ? Thanks
Not sure
Hi
I have just wired one in but doesnt switch on or off, I have the switch illuminating and it connected to wifi.
Its connected to a 7 bulb chandelier with LED dimmers installed.
Wire colours at the switch are red(live), black(neutral) and an earth.
I have L, L1 and neutral connections on the switch, (tried the live in both L and L1 but nothing)?
It came with a capacitor but I have not added this yet though.
Could you please help and give an idea what I am doing wrong?
Thank you in advance.
You will need the capacitor for led bulbs.
You have to check your switch cables with a meter. It sounds like they are both lives. The constant live goes to L and the switched live to L1.
If you are not sure call in a pro 👍
Hi good video, problem Im having is there is no I LumoS app on android to control the light?
My light switch works with eWeLink.
Hi, keen to do this but do you think this is safe by UK electrical standards? Could the capacitor short in any way?
No things like that are in TV's radio's..etc...
Capacitors are very reliable and rarely break down. Not saying it cant happen but its rare. I have had no problems with the capacitor so far.
Switch working fine as well although sometimes it will switch on or off, will be making a follow up video.
Hello works very well but i have try to add one or two more switchs on the same light and when i ask to google put the light on the light is on but all the switchs are offline... 2 or 3 switchs for the same light is possible ? Any idea ?
I haven't tried these as two way switches and not sure its even possible. They work differently from a mechanical switch. Try contacting the seller.
kiki kiki I have 2 of these and the are not suitable for 2 way switching
what will happen if you have only with neutral wire switches? is it possible to use in loop wire system
Not sure what you mean. This will work with no neutral.
i have two outdoor lights and the 1switch is inside (The Wire connecting from light to switch is hidden)- fitting the capacitor is a bit of an issue could i add a cable connector behind the wall switch and then add a capacitor there?
ie- take the wires from the wall into a cable connector > Add the capacitor >> then add the switch?
These are no neutral switches. The capacitor is fitted across the live and neutral, usually in the light fitting. If you have a neutral at the switch you don't need one of these switches, another type would be better.
@@handymancraftglasgow ok i think i get it now the capacitor has to be fitted at the other end ie the wires coming from the wall light into a cable connector from the light side, not from the switch side. i bought a cheap version of yours £18 amazon did the job got it to work but mines is non-dimmable.
Hi man thanks for showing us step by step.. i have got a little problem here.. when i installed the capacitor and light up the light it make some noise ! Anything u can help me with please 🙌🏻
Could be a loose connection, check all your connections. First place to start.
@@handymancraftglasgow Okay i will check it out, thanks a lot man
Mine doesn't work. Is the capacitor polarized, or can you insert it into the circuit either way?
It's in the U.S. Does that make a difference?
The capacitor should work either way round. As long as the switch is rated for 120v it should be fine. We work with 240v in the uk.
I am not sure about wiring in the US and how switches are set up so can't really advise you.
@@handymancraftglasgow Thank you. It sounds like the voltage might have something to do with the capacitance necessary, so I won't bother reversing the capacitor wires. I'll try to ask the seller about the capacitance.
Cheers!
If the switch controls 2 light points, do we need to add capacitor to each light point?
It should be fine with just the one capacitor.
I haven't tried a light in a two light set up so to be completely certain maybe worth while emailing the supplier direct.
There is a link to their website in the description.
As manufacturer shows in some instructions the capacitor is only needed for 1st light bulb.
The capacitor is used to basically create a circuit to allow the switch to work without a neutral connection.
I believe the capacitor goes across the light terminals if you're having problems as it creates a "virtual neutral" to power the switch
It does indeed 👍
Not really a "Virtual Neutral" but lets enough current travel through the "Load" lead to power the Switch but not activate the bulb. A "Leak".
I had this decades ago on a Door Bell that had a keyboard and you could "play in" whatever you wanted the unit to play when activated.
Looking to buy the exact same switch (single gang), and wondered about 'what's in the box', installation and test / final results (including the placement of the capacitor). A great informative video, many thanks :)
Thanks for the comment 👍
this setup will not work with colour light bulbs as it puts them into pairing mode!
Hi thanks for the vid buddy. I just wanted to know does is have a dimming option and what app are u using
The app is ewelink and that particular switch does not have dimming 👍
@@handymancraftglasgow thank u so much for your reply very helpful
No problem. Have a look about there are loads of these switches on the market now. Aqara does some nice no neutrals 👍, not sure about dimmables though.
I have this light switch, but I can’t get it to work properly. It connects to the WiFi and can be switched on but then when I try to switch it off it seems to crash and disconnect from the WiFi and won’t work when I touch it. Any ideas?
Do you have it connected to a two way light? If not, do you have the capacitor fitted? Make sure the wires are the right way round.
does it hum? I installed just like your video, it works...... but the light humms/buzz..... any suggestions?
Check the connections. It should be silent.
Any idea how the capacitor would work with spot lights that all run off one switch. Can the capacitor be connected to the first bulb??
You can install it in any light.
As snoopy says, any lights so long as they are the 250v gu10 bulbs and not the 12v types 👍
#Handyman Craft Glasgow HELP ME PLS, i
I bought 1, set it up in the application, then I click the switch button manually and it resets itself, what do I do?
Make sure its wired correctly. It should only reset after you press the button for about 5 seconds.
Can this switch be used to dim lights as well?
No. This switch won't dim lights.
Thanks for the video, just spent 6 hours yesterday trying too get a three way light switch working , the lights in two of the rooms worked perfectly but the kitchen just flickers when it is off or on, it must be the Neutral connection I made.
Thanks again for the information, I will rewrite the N today and hopefully all will be good. 🍻
Sounds like the capacitor. My lights were flickering both when on and off, the addition of the capacitor solved this.
Why you are not using the provided capacitor, and you have 2 live wires?
The capacitor is in the light fitting (on the ceiling). This is a no neutral switch so you have live in and live out - 2 live wires.
I have a 3 gang switch but only one capacitor. How do I set up this???
The tiny instruction card will show you which gang needs the capacitor fitted 👍
Just checked a switch out in one of my rooms, it's got black and red connected to a switch and green that's just hanging and not connected to anything. Would this switch be compatible?
looks like this.. imgur.com/a/I6cU20P
This switch should work. You need to be able to test the wires, one will be constantly live. Seek a pro if you are not sure 👍
Great video. Can I just ask what happens if your WiFi goes down? Can you not operate your lights?
You can still use your lights. The indicator flashes to let you know that it's not connected.
Right sexy Handyman guy here is a question fur ye - Living room has about 12 Gu10 fitted lights, they were fitted back in the day when Gu10 Halogen bulbs 50w were in - All bulbs have been replaced with GU10 led - but dimmer don't work now and when the dimmer did work a while back with the GU10 LED bulbs when you turned the dimmer low it would flicker? you had to fiddle about with the dimmer to get it to settle now the dimmer just switched on or off Do you have a solution?
You need to make sure that the new LED bulbs are dimable. If they are able to work with a dimmer you usually need a dimmer specifically for LEDs. The Leds use way less power than the halogens.
If your dimmer was flickering before you changes over to the LEDs its probably worth changing the dimmer switch.
Calculate the total load of the lights and make sure the dimmer can handle the load. So, if you have 12 leds at 5W each you will be using a total of 60W - probably just over the power of 1 halogen bulb.
Led dimmers are usually made to deal with lower loads.
Hope this helps
@@handymancraftglasgow Sounds good sexy boy i will give it try and let you know how i get on.
@@handymancraftglasgow Good news sexy boy , bought a led dimmer from Screwfix for £7.19 popped it on job done now i can make love to the wife with dimmed romantic lights instead of lighting from Wembley stadium. thanks i will be back with more problems later cheers.
Boa tarde,vcs tem que explicar como faz as ligações da fiação primeiro não a configuração,a configuração deixa por ultimo.
Eu entendo. Obrigado👍
Just went through the same thing had to put a deeper socket on made all the mess than realised mine I bought was a 3 wire dohhh
That is annoying. At least you know you can get a switch that doesn't need the neutral.
Question. My smart switch came today and it only has N L and L1, can this be used with white com wire and 2 red L1 wires?
Ive tried a few combinations and the obly way i can get it to function is white wire in N and the 2 lives in L. But the light just flashes constantly
The light flashing is usually caused by the capacitor not being fitted.
Cant really advise on this. You need to know which is the common and what cable goes to the light.
Shame that they don't do a dimmer version. I've been looking for a 2 gang dimmer without neutral for ages.
Best I can come up with is a module that fits in the light unit and uses a standard switch. But needs the smart part to operate the dimmer.
LightwaveRF do dimmer switches - however, they do require an additional hub which is quite expensive.
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Bit confused , there is no neutral at all. Even going into my lights. I have Live and switch live. Where would the capacitor go?
The capacitor is fitted at the light fitting across live and neutral. There will be a live and neutral somewhere but you will have to test or get an electrician. Electrician would be a good call in this case.
@@handymancraftglasgow hi there. I didn't know there was a fix for this. Could you let me know what capacitor it is. I can 5hen retro fit some. Thanks
Amazing
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I wonder if they make a version for North America because switches without a neutral line exist here too, and this would be great to have here too.
There are a few on US eBay. I have included a link to them in the description.
Good concise and easy to understand video.Could you up load a video showing a light light switch with a two way switch?
I wish I could. I tried everything to get these working as a two way switch but it's not possible with no neutral switches.
You can set it up in app but if you're Wi-Fi goes down so do your switches, not good.
There are other alternatives that I am looking into so will upload if I find one that works reliably.
@@handymancraftglasgow no worries, many thanks for the video anyway.
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Thanks for this , very informative, red is on and blue off was a bit strange
Glad it was helpful!
What if wifi goes out will it still work
If the WiFi goes out it will still work. The indicator light will flash to let you know its not connected.
Do you guys hear sound coming from your light when you connect the capacitor?? Is it normal ?
Check your connections - the capacitor should be silent.
Hi...Im stuck its no picking my router up and its running on 2.4...I have the lights on but only if you touch the socket itself
Try switching the switch off at the fuse box for about 20 seconds, restart your router and try to get them to connect.
They can be a bit frustrating sometimes but usually I find its something I am doing that's causing the problem.
@@handymancraftglasgow Thank you i shall try that
What would the implications be of using earth as a neutral on the switches that require neutral?
Don't do it. There will be safety implications. The earth is there for a reason and is deliberately wired to ground and does not carry a voltage. Putting a voltage down it could cause difficulties with your breakers or you may cause a part of your electrical circuit to become live that shouldn't.
All metal in your house like your plumbing is bonded to earth and any metal switches, lamps, appliances are all earthed. Putting a voltage on there could have unforeseen and dangerous consequences. I would certainly not take the risk.
Absolutely don’t! Earth is your safety wire
Why do people who know fuck all about electrics mess with electrics!!!!! Leave it to the professionals!!!!
Replace them budget LED’s with a ‘Dim to warm’ option... replicates dichroic lovely when you dim them down.
Will look out for those 👍
How is the switch getting the neutral return path to work. Magic!! Alessandro Volta would be shocked...pardon the pun.
The capacitor is the key!
Great video thanks mate. How is a device powered from just a live? I thought a neutral was required to power anything. What makes these switches different? Thnks again
Not 100% sure but they must be able to create a potential difference in the switch in order for the electronics to work.
Does it work with fluorescent bulbs?
I don't think it does.
Could you upload the link for the capacitor or the model number of the capacitor as I need one and can not find one. Thank you
Hi
It's one of these capacitors, but not the exact type. You need to find one with insulated legs. It is the exact spec of capacitor just without leg insulation, a place to start. so you may have to hunt a bit for the insulated leg type.
Don't try and use one without insulated legs, you could cause your light fitting to go live or cause a fire.
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Thank you
@@handymancraftglasgow Does the capacitance play the role? I mean my capacitor is 4.5uF, do I need to look for exactly the same?
Not sure about that. I would use the same size and type just to be sure it will work.
The problem I had with eve switch program was that is working only on 1 device. If you try on two one will get logged out. That is a major issue if you ask me. Hopefully they have fixed that. Nice tutorial
Thanks for the info. I only have one device connected so never came across this problem.
Nice video
Thanks 👍
I have LED lights that glow after being turned off, so I'll try this trick with the capacitor.
You definitely need the capacitor fitted 👍
First one I have seen with no neutral, I bought 2 of the old ones and had to put a neutral to the switch.
This was the only switch I could see in October. Now there are loads of suppliers. They do need a capacitor fitted at the light but that is way easier than fitting a neutral.
I looked at a few here - th-cam.com/video/wPc16dm6qd8/w-d-xo.html
Some of which were affected by my coffee machine - very strange.
What I'm lost, isn't the older wire set ups got white and black for neutral wires? Or just black
The set up in the video is very old. There are only live wires behind the switches and are white. Dates from about the seventies, or thereabouts.
@@handymancraftglasgow thats interesting. here I was thinking I had no neutral wires but I looked and I not only have neutral wires, but an updated colour code
If you have neutral wires you can do so much more with your switches 👍
@@handymancraftglasgow one annoying thing is that non Neutral smart switches are easier to find than neutral ones lol
If I had neutrals in the switches I would probably use a Shelly 1 which allows you to keep your original switch. Basically you end up with smart mechanical switches. A bit more complicated to wire in though.
Been looking for a light switch that is Silent Or at Least a lot Quieter than a common light switch
as at night they are too noisy
This looks interesting. 💡
These switches have no moving parts so they are silent 👍
Handyman Craft Glasgow that’s Good to know, thank you!
I also found a better way to get the Hue light bulb so we no need to buy them now! Method they will hate me for figuring it out but I have! You have done it with a single switch which is great but come to stairs lights it get harder on the setup process, took me a while but now finely have the correct swtuches and correct bulbs at £20 rateh then Hue bulbs at £85 so well worth following me!
Can i buy the capacitor separately?
It can be bought separately. There should be a link in these comments
Great how to video. Thanks for making this! Tried to install today.. Lights flashed slowly on and off but couldn't see blue ring around power switch.. Any ideas what i was doing wrong? Do i just need to install the capacitor?
I would always install the capacitor for these switches. Should work after that 👍
@@handymancraftglasgow thanks. Switched to an old non led light bulb and got it to work for now. Capacitor fix is next up. Thanks.
Great. It should work no problem once the capacitor is in 👍
you can get them form screw fix for £22
Good to know. Thanks for that.
thanks...more so as we have the same light fitting
Brilliant 👍
Can you add a link for the switch please ? Thanks great video
Thanks for the comment. Links are in the description. 👍
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Nice video Handyman Craft Glasgow, thanks! I have been considering this as well as others. My light switches have a neutral behind them so I am wondering what my best option is. Also, the capacitor... I have a standard 2 gang at the moment. Controlling a string of 6 GU10's in series and a ceiling fitting like yours - would the capacitor just be fitted behind one GU10 fitting (string of 6 in series). Would I also need one for the fitting too? Thanks
If you have a neutral then you are laughing. You shouldn't need the capacitor at all .You will have a larger choice of switches to choose from and they are usually cheaper.
I would go with a standard smart switch if I was lucky enough to have a neutral.
Thumbs up for not saying Alexa on the video!
If there's no neutral, how is the circuit board being powered?
My understanding is its powered through the capacitor