Fake Serial Killer | Thomas Quick (Sture Bergwall) Case Analysis

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  • @axelrobertsson9008
    @axelrobertsson9008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    This is one of the biggest scandals in modern Sweden. They wanted a Swedish serial killer so they came up with one, not only destroying Thomas’ life but also helping the real killers get away. Thank you for this video! 🇸🇪

    • @tomarctus7587
      @tomarctus7587 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      - it is a fascinating story, not because of Quick - because he was an asshole, but because of all the authorities (Remember we are talking about a lot of people with authority, perhaps hundreds.) - from judges, lawyers, police investigators , psychiatry, witness experts to journalists and the Public Opinion who were convinced he was a genuine serial killer. We are talking about a mass groupe thinking (remember almost the entire population of Sweden 10 million, not to mention the neighboring countries) and the clearest example of how confirmation bias works. All of the authorities - wanted - him to be a serial killer, when anyone disagreed they were labeled stupid, ill informed or they just haven't read (the confirmation bias) the things the authorities had read.
      The biggest crook is obviously psychiatry with all its woo woo, also supported by police investigators, "witness experts" and eventually by Judges.
      A few brave souls like Hannes Råstam and Leif GW Persson said all along this is a case of a mythoman, a Pathological liar.
      Now what is really needed is for someone to put subtitles on Hannes Råstam`s documentary "Thomas Quick".
      The biggest problem however is that no one with authority - as far as i know - has ever been held accountable. One of them are still teaching his students Quick is a serial killer and everyone else is wrong.
      As your neighbor to the west, we have also had several cases of wrongful convictions, nothing as big as Quick - yet - but we are still waiting for the outcome of a terrible case of child rape and killings (Baneheia drapene) - two small girls where raped and killed - where one accused person may have spend 21 years in prison for something he did not do. The mechanisms seems chillingly similar to that of the Quick case.

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right

    • @tomarctus7587
      @tomarctus7587 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@turtleanton6539
      Right or left - Do you have any further comments..sunshine..

    • @eliaswewel3899
      @eliaswewel3899 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thomas probably never killed anyone, but he still molested a bunch of little boys, so he should still be locked up, in my opinion, as he ruined the life of the boys. Still agree with you on that it was awfull that the real killers got away though.

  • @Starcrow999
    @Starcrow999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for covering this /Swedish viewer.

  • @fannyhemmafru2388
    @fannyhemmafru2388 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for covering a case from my country Sweden! 💝

  • @johnthomson6507
    @johnthomson6507 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any chance he could be Jack the ripper. Or bible John ? Sadly doesn't strike me as a viable candidate for either killers but it would get the cases of the police books?

  • @richardhart9204
    @richardhart9204 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ... just when you think you've heard it all ...

  • @jadetaylor2443
    @jadetaylor2443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +135

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      @theunforgiven2885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

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      @T.d0T. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

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    • @jadetaylor2443
      @jadetaylor2443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

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    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

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    • @zsmith4853
      @zsmith4853 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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  • @tove236
    @tove236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    I remember when he was claiming that he had killed a Norwegian girl called Therese, who disappeared in 1988. She's never been found. He was found guilty of killing her, something that really upset Therese's mom, seeing as she never believed he had anything to do with her daughter's disappearance.

    • @caninecurry5823
      @caninecurry5823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Knowing that child killers were ignored so this nutcase could get some attention, is the worst part... He outta be put down just for that.

    • @mari97216
      @mari97216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes I was pretty sure it was the Therese case, at least I remembered that right. I watched this on the news back when it all happened as a kid.

    • @l.w.paradis2108
      @l.w.paradis2108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tove236 So sorry.

    • @Kari.F.
      @Kari.F. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@caninecurry5823 He died many years ago. The murders he confessed to were cold cases, so the killers had basically gotten away with it already. He's the Scandinavian version of Ottis Tool and Henry Lee Lucas in the US: Having a ball and getting attention while they "confessed" to just about every unsolved murder of women in the country. The police ate it all up, even confessions to murders that they knew that the two could not possibly have committed. Lots of investigations of murder cases were halted because of people like Quick, Tool and Lucas and many others then, and police forces desperate to get closure on their cold cases - all over the world. All these cold cases have been reopened, and most of them are just as cold as they were before these confessions. It has happened since then too, albeit to a lesser extent, and it will happen again in the future. Repressed memory was a psychologist fad all over the world back then. I actually think it started in the US. Or at least it was enormously popular there. It's easy to pass judgment after the fact, because as we know: Hindsight is always 20/20.

    • @linneaborgenstal2041
      @linneaborgenstal2041 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kari.F. he's not dead

  • @seferinorino6951
    @seferinorino6951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    Imagine the excitement of the policemen when they thought they could solve every single murder since the 60s right there 😂

    • @thatsalt1560
      @thatsalt1560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yes! I grew up thinking he was the number one Swedish serial killer. He was guilty of it all. Everybody knew about him. It was shocking when the truth came out. There's another somewhat similar case in Sweden where two boys were coached to "remember" killing a 4-year-old in their neighbourhood. They never really remembered but had to accept that they had suppressed it. They were completely innocent.

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thatsalt1560 This is a very strange case. Since his many convictions were overturned, did the authorities ever find out who really murdered these people? So sad for the families, thinking their loved one's case was solved, only to find out they weren't.

    • @seferinorino6951
      @seferinorino6951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thatsalt1560 I have an off topic question, with the lockdown I’ve been cooking a lot. I made Swedish cardamon buns, super tasty. Are cinnamon buns the same?

    • @jennievivi
      @jennievivi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@seferinorino6951 I am not the person you asked the question to but I am Swedish. Maybe I can help! The buns are exactly the same except you change the cinnamon to cardamon when ever you like. One or the other.

    • @thedude4795
      @thedude4795 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@LDiamondz All the cases remain unsolved that Bergwall confessed to, as far as I know. As soon as he "woke up" from his benzodiazepine "haze" he realized that he'll be in jail for ever and began challenging the rulings and from there it took like 7 years until he war aquitted anyway.

  • @h0rriphic
    @h0rriphic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Thomas: “ I may have stabbed/strangled/shot/ran over/poisoned that missing man or woman you have been looking for…
    Cops: *Go on*

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It DID sound almost exactly like that. Too bad they never believe innocent people when they say they didn't do it. These cops were duped by a nutjob.

  • @brucekiki6764
    @brucekiki6764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    The cops are just as nuts as he is.

    • @THE-RED-LETTER-PROJECT
      @THE-RED-LETTER-PROJECT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol, you'll run right to 911 if shit hits the fan.

    • @Robert08010
      @Robert08010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think that's a fools assessment. They might be desperate to impress their higher-ups but to say they are as nuts as he was is just a bit stupid.

    • @brucekiki6764
      @brucekiki6764 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Robert08010
      You must be fun to be around.

    • @brucekiki6764
      @brucekiki6764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@THE-RED-LETTER-PROJECT
      What a stupid rebuttal.

    • @Robert08010
      @Robert08010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@brucekiki6764 Yeah, I'm a handful. LOL.

  • @thelocalmaladroit8873
    @thelocalmaladroit8873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Such a sad case for Thomas. You did a compelling and intelligent analysis here Doc. The system took advantage of him. Your channel is my favorite!

    • @christinabernat6709
      @christinabernat6709 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The system took advantage of him? Totally disagree! He got his own office and computer and restaurant meals and furlough days in leave while confessing to being a serial murderer! HE took advantage of the system! He made fools of everyone!

    • @TGFalk
      @TGFalk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@christinabernat6709 There are lunatics who will do anything in this world. So we ought to have a system that can withstand that. But somehow these clowns, in powerful positions, played along with this frivolous case. Makes me wonder who the real lunatics are that should be locked inside a psych ward.

    • @Flygsand
      @Flygsand 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The system took advantage of him, and he took advantage of the system. The police wanted to close cases, and he wanted attention. The real victims are the families of the dead or presumed so.

    • @thelocalmaladroit8873
      @thelocalmaladroit8873 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Flygsand Right. I get it.

    • @Catlily5
      @Catlily5 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Flygsand The real victims are people who got preyed upon because police didn't catch the real killers.

  • @scottswenson9920
    @scottswenson9920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    This guy is good. He's a good example of careful, well-considered thought, his critical thinking skills are a good example for any viewer and especially for a society that is in desperate need of just such skills. Scott Baxter, M.D.

    • @ursodermatt8809
      @ursodermatt8809 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      who are you talking about? grande or quick?

  • @emilyhollis4231
    @emilyhollis4231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    All of the red flags...guessing at weapons, no specific preferences, and the cherry on top: mental health professionals using the old "repressed memories" line.
    This was a very interesting case, Dr Grande! One I've never heard of before now.

  • @niklase5901
    @niklase5901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great video! This was a huge scandal here in Sweden. So many crazy things in this scandal, but the worst thing could be that those involved in getting Quick convicted (prosecutor, health care experts, a police officer), have kept on arguing that the conviction was correct. In Sweden the scandal is often described as the result of a combination of “group think” and pseudoscience.

  • @thomasdoubting
    @thomasdoubting 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    To my recolection, he even "recaled" seeing his mother giving birth to a baby that both parents muerderd it in front of him.

  • @pudding7876
    @pudding7876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'm always worried I might be framed for something I didn't do but here is the complete opposite! Thanks as always for the fascinating cases and breakdowns Dr. Grande!

  • @LouisGiliberto
    @LouisGiliberto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    "The police consider confessions the best evidence" Yes, but not for finding the guilty. It's the best "evidence" to convince a jury to convict. That's part of the problem. Like Dr. Grande points out, multiple sources of evidence should be correlated to find the truth if one is seeking truth rather than just a conviction of a particular individual.

    • @annebritraaen2237
      @annebritraaen2237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Spot on.

    • @sharonrenedavenport8995
      @sharonrenedavenport8995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      🎯

    • @l.w.paradis2108
      @l.w.paradis2108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, perfectly stated.

    • @l.w.paradis2108
      @l.w.paradis2108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Did you ever see the Frontline documentary The Confessions? Must-see.

    • @ss-leifbarsark7767
      @ss-leifbarsark7767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      We dont have jurys in Sweden,and what people seem to forget he raped a young boy! He was not just accused he was convicted for molesting a young child..
      The murders he was not guilty of though..

  • @geekblondie5904
    @geekblondie5904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Oh my, you made my day Todd‼️
    This should be sooo interesting to watch and hear your thoughts on.
    Hugs from Sweden ❤️ 🇸🇪 ❤️ 🇸🇪❤️

    • @mari97216
      @mari97216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Agree 🇳🇴 this case was all over the news, especially when he confessed to killing that Norwegian girl.

    • @thatsalt1560
      @thatsalt1560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This was such a scandal. Imagine the families of the victims and then all the actual murderers who were never caught because Quick was assumed to have done it.

    • @svenknutsen8937
      @svenknutsen8937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@JS-uw1pr Nä, det är du inte! 🙂

    • @geekblondie5904
      @geekblondie5904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JS-uw1pr Jättekul ‼️

    • @geekblondie5904
      @geekblondie5904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@svenknutsen8937 😁

  • @kimbell6689
    @kimbell6689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    It's powerful when you provide statements about competence, such as when you explained that allowing for other opinions helps prevent bias and is a sign of professionalism, rather than a weakness.

    • @barbaradiederich3709
      @barbaradiederich3709 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True. Isn't it strange how social media decides who's opinions are allowed a voice. One wonders why. Could it be they are afraid of opposing views.

  • @mazterarius
    @mazterarius 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Semi-famous in Norway. Suspected of one or two murders. Same story and result as you mentioned.
    Try Sturé or even Sturë. We respect our E's :)

    • @Ceerads
      @Ceerads 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love the ë especially! É should be wearing a beret.

  • @nathlom6723
    @nathlom6723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thank you for going in to different cases around the world. Another one from Sweden is a case simply known as "the case Kevin" (fallet Kevin). It's where a 4 year old boy got killed in Arvika. Two brothers who were 5 and 7 at the time got accused of the murder from the police. But in later years video has shown how badly the investigation was in this case. It would be interesting to see your analysis of the investigation and how it can effect a person mentaly, when society thinks they have committed a murder.

    • @MissWhiskers
      @MissWhiskers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or the case of Christine Schürrer, the crazy German woman who out of jealousy bludgeoned two innocent toddlers to death with a hammer and nearly killed the mother (who would survive and would later be able to point her out as the murder). This heinous act, that was committed in Sweden, was perpertuated solely out of spite as Schürrer had previously been involved with the mother's boyfriend, who had later rejected her. Schürrer laughed during the police interrogations and made jokes completely inappropriate considering the gravity of the matter. (She was convicted despite the lack of physical evidence connecting her to the scene, thanks to an abundance of circumstantial evidence.) If you could provide an analysis of this case, of this chilling female psychopath and childkiller, Dr Grande, I would be forever grateful.

    • @jennievivi
      @jennievivi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MissWhiskers agree. That case is horrible. It gave me nightmares at the time.

  • @gwynek9846
    @gwynek9846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Dr. Grande, you're putting out so much good content! Are you taking enough time for self care? I miss your funny bloopers and jokes ❤️

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds! Dr. Grande has a very large intelligence and therefore we can always expect something new and different!

  • @LDiamondz
    @LDiamondz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was an interesting case. It's a bit disheartening to know that the criminal justice system/police can be as incompetent in other countries, as our own. The mental health professionals, in this case, were even worse. I'm glad you talked about that, as well. Bias is definitely not something a mental health professional should have. Thank you for another great video, Dr.Grande. Appreciate all the effort you put in for us.
    Is that another new cactus on the floor? And the lamp is back, too. 🤗 Love what you've done to the place. Again! Keep up the great work, you're becoming a legend all over the world. You deserve it... ❤❤

  • @Jaksi-a
    @Jaksi-a 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I would like it explained why there is "no such thing as repressed memories". What's the reasoning behind that statement?

    • @ITIsFunnyDamnIT
      @ITIsFunnyDamnIT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah same here.

    • @diegonatan6301
      @diegonatan6301 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dr Grande made a video about it in 2018 already.

  • @annebruecks7381
    @annebruecks7381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey Dr! I was hoping you would clarify something you alluded to in this video. Do you view all or most repressed memories as ‘inaccurate’? I was a bit confused if you were referring to this case specifically, or if you had a broader sentiment regarding repressed memories and their validity in general? I appreciate your viewpoint on these issues and wanted to ask, in a larger sense, how much weight you put on these memories when they come up? Of course, I’m not assuming you are diagnosing any particular person and was only hoping to generate an interesting discussion here in the comment section! 😉
    Edit: Oh boy, I just read some comments, and I totally understand if you don’t want to get involved in this quagmire! At any rate, I Highly enjoy your videos Dr. Grande. Thank you for all your hard work and dedication ❤️

  • @jdo5748
    @jdo5748 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Greetings from GBG, Sweden!
    Hm, hur många svenskar tittar på detta?

  • @joycewilliams967
    @joycewilliams967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    What a sad case. Thomas confessed to these murders because he was then treated as someone “special” in the mental health facility. How desperate he must have been for falsely confessing to murder to be a good thing to his way of thinking. I feel so bad for those families who thought that they had closure at last for their loved ones death only to have that closure ripped away. So very very sad.

    • @thedude4795
      @thedude4795 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      On the other hand, if it helps; Thomas' admissions where so weak that they shouldnt have ever been believed as long as they where. Nobody really challenged them until he changed his own mind years later. He was heavily benzo'd up, however.

  • @yolipurpleflower9895
    @yolipurpleflower9895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    It's rare that someone such as Thomas Quick, would want to be arrested as a serial killer. That was a dangerous game he played. Strange guy!
    Another excellent video! Thanks, Dr. Grande!

    • @ss-leifbarsark7767
      @ss-leifbarsark7767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Watch the movie Quick that came out in 2019 i believe it was..
      I highly recomend it if you want to know how it went down with the whole confessions and the journalist who blew the story about it

    • @yolipurpleflower9895
      @yolipurpleflower9895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ss-leifbarsark7767, thanks for this tip. I will look this video up.

    • @principecaprincipeca2243
      @principecaprincipeca2243 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is just a very sick individual.

    • @andrewjackson7511
      @andrewjackson7511 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He also got medication prescribed. And promised more Benzo if he kept making confessions. The justice system was not interested in solving the murders. Just getting a conviction.

    • @joedennehy386
      @joedennehy386 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really. If you are going to be locked up for probably the rest of your life, you may as well go hard, be the biggest you can, be famous. People do lie, and he got great treatment, one thing led to another

  • @lnc-to4ku
    @lnc-to4ku 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This entire video was just incredible, but the closing was absolutely brilliant!
    As I've said before, your work ethic and the level of insightful and intelligent content you provide us with is incomparable, and incredibly appreciated! ♡♡
    When and if you do take a very over due vacation, we'll all cheer for you!🍹🌞

  • @nunyiabidness3525
    @nunyiabidness3525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is the strangest case; thanks for covering it. I believe the clinical diagnosis for this man would be nutbag.

  • @creepyoldlady1268
    @creepyoldlady1268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This could be filed under "What happens when absolutely everybody screws up" except that Quick literally couldn't screw up his confession enough.

  • @dylanwatson8133
    @dylanwatson8133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    How does Dr. Grande make such amazing videos every day!?!? One might say that if I had a nickel for every interesting video makes, I would have a sufficient quantity of nickels.

    • @aldinaatic9360
      @aldinaatic9360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We can speculate how in the comment section :D

    • @peternystrom921
      @peternystrom921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is part of the Grande, Please colab With Ariana next.

    • @rejaneoliveira5019
      @rejaneoliveira5019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It’s pretty incredible. In addition to it, he also posts videos quite frequently on his Patreon and also on the Podcast.

    • @sdsurfgirl60
      @sdsurfgirl60 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's a cool way to make money, Dylan. 🙂

    • @Richard.P
      @Richard.P 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm pretty sure he records several videos at a time and them posts one a day

  • @perleax
    @perleax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    As a Swede I'm impressed by your knowledge in this case, but at the same time you fail to see some main points. 1. There was a crew of people around him - police, judges, lawyers, journalists - who made their careers on this case, and encouraged him to confess more and more murders! They didn't care that it was all a lie 2. Thomas Quick was a drug addict, and by confessing to new murders, he was regulary "rewarded" more drugs by the medicial staff that took care of him. So he keeped confessing to get his drugs.

    • @TheBeautifulWindsofAragon
      @TheBeautifulWindsofAragon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He had also tried to rape and murder a student in Uppsala. People seem to forget that this is still a man guilty of a serious crime. It is not black or white.

  • @grumpyoldlady_rants
    @grumpyoldlady_rants 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    EDIT: I’m editing this because I want to clarify what I wrote. I believe people can have repressed memories. What I know now is nonsense is Recovered Memory Therapy. Many people were essentially “forced” to remember things that never happened. Remember the satanic panic of the 80s?
    I’m glad that the whole repressed memory nonsense was debunked and put to rest. So many lives were harmed by it.
    Years ago, I was working with a psychologist who had jumped on the repressed memory train. I felt like he really wanted me to “remember” being sexually abused at preschool age. In thinking about it between appointments, I got to thinking about the stories my parents told of me having to get my stomach pumped a few times because I got into stuff that was harmful. While I don’t have any memory of it, I would imagine, as a 2-3 year old, it would have been very traumatic to have my stomach pumped and could explain a choking sensation I would feel during my sessions with the Psychologist. So, I asked him if getting my stomach pumped would cause that feeling. All he said was “It could” then went back to trying to get me to remember being sexually abused. I was sexually abused when I was 10 and I definitely never forgot anything about what happened so if I had been abused at a younger age, I would probably have some memory of it. I have an excellent memory with I several memories from when I was 3 years old and even I’ve ir two from when I was 2.

    • @Mama_Bear524
      @Mama_Bear524 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That’s insane. I’m sorry you went through that.

    • @grumpyoldlady_rants
      @grumpyoldlady_rants 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @larry lawrence - I’m really talking about the therapist who basically forced people to have a “repressed experience”. But, I’ll say this - I had a lot of trauma in my childhood and once I reached about age four, I never forgot any of it.

    • @gnlout7403
      @gnlout7403 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a really interesting topic I started looking into a few years ago. Christine Blasey Ford was apparently involved in hypno therapy involving repressed memories (I'm politically independent for the record - not trying to make a statement. It's one possible explanation for those events). Also the Netflix show 'the keepers' about the murdered nun had repressed memories at the center of the series where an abused girl started remembering past situations - some of which were fairly stunning and difficult to comprehend as actual events.
      I know there was a well known case about a father who was (apparently falsely) accused by his daughter. There are people who go through hypnotherapy and 'remember' events that they couldn't possibly have known about first hand.
      It's definitely a controversial topic.

  • @jamaaldavis6243
    @jamaaldavis6243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I am currently in the middle of watching your upload from yesterday and I just a notification that you uploaded this. More to watch after I finished yesterday's video :-)
    You're such prolific uploader - thanks for all your work in recording and editing these videos, Dr. Grande!

  • @-Lotek-The-B0T-ASSASS1N
    @-Lotek-The-B0T-ASSASS1N 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I guess you could say the police were a bit too quick to judge... Ok i'll leave now.

  • @rayross997
    @rayross997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Could you please cover the genocide in Rwanda? In one case a teacher & soccer coach killed children he had taught & coached. How do people justify such actions?

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh, that is grizzly. I wish he would cover this.

  • @jollyrogers75
    @jollyrogers75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How do they know that after he was released, he wouldn't actually go out and start murdering people to get the REAL attention he wants? He has a violent past and is obviously mentally unstable. I hope they kept their eye on him.

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, and then they wouldn't believe him if he confessed! It seems cops are incompetent all over the world!

  • @maureeningleston1501
    @maureeningleston1501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This sounds as if it should be very interesting.

    • @glassboxes
      @glassboxes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no

    • @blueeyes6852
      @blueeyes6852 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes

    • @glassboxes
      @glassboxes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@blueeyes6852 fine.

    • @principecaprincipeca2243
      @principecaprincipeca2243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is an interesting and a very sick) person and all that happened alone him. This is a very short time to dig in to Thomas Quick and the crames he confessed.

  • @Thundersnowy
    @Thundersnowy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Dr Grande, your storytelling is excellent and I really look forward to hearing you not diagnosing anyone every day!
    I also get a kick out of your plants.
    I've got a whole dramatic storyline going on with them moving all around.

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He's not telling stories, He's speculating, remember? :)

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Once upon a time long, long ago in a forest of cacti...

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bthomson ....and they all lived happily ever after. : )

  • @siainvestigationsteam2713
    @siainvestigationsteam2713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Doc can you do an analysis on TH-cam sensation Charlie Zelenoff?

  • @paulphilpott8616
    @paulphilpott8616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We had the same thing happen in Texas with Henry Lee Lucas. The Texas Rangers still defend their investigation., Can any man afford such arrogance?

  • @AndersTheSphynx
    @AndersTheSphynx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please do the kevin Brothers bit on your podd and wilma andersson

  • @krisinpa8302
    @krisinpa8302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a crazy story! For the price of a roast beef sandwich the police had their own John Edward. I'm seeing a hammer...Anyone? Uh, um, I'm seeing a gun.. Um, the letter P is coming through..was it a pipe cleaner?

  • @pyenygren2299
    @pyenygren2299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for this video. It shows that Thomas Quick was mistreated in many ways by many "profesionals". As a swede that have heard a lot about him, it feels good to know that the truth was revealed at last.

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Did they ever find out who really murdered all those people? So sad for the families, believing their loved one's murder was solved. The police did a terrible injustice to the victims.

    • @Flygsand
      @Flygsand 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@LDiamondz No. In all but two cases that led to conviction, the statute of limitations has expired. Nowadays, there's no statute of limitations on murder in Sweden. This new law only applies to those two cases. So unfortunately, most of the families will never have that closure.

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Flygsand Oh, how terrible that must be for the families, and the entire country, as well. They might have solved all the murders, had they not concentrated on this one man. Very sad. I'm glad there's no statute of limitations for murder, now. So, this doesn't happen again. Thanks for letting me know.

  • @eivindnyhus9181
    @eivindnyhus9181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Being Norwegian, I remember seeing the Thomas Quick-case on the news as a child in relation to a kid that disappeared in Drammen. It was the first time i realized some people out there was evil and wanted to hurt others and i was terrified. Ironic that it turned out he never did any of it.

  • @rebeccaspookyduran7864
    @rebeccaspookyduran7864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Have you ever been fooled by a patient? Has anyone ever come in with the story that seems so real that you just believed it immediately or were you able to pick up on their BS? Or at least question it

    • @mysurfing3550
      @mysurfing3550 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's fooled by a lot of the rona propaganda so it's likely he'd trust people with credentials even if the evidence isn't legit.

  • @xRuralJuroRx
    @xRuralJuroRx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yes!!! Been asking for this one for a while, thanks for looking into it. :-)

  • @mrs.reluctant4095
    @mrs.reluctant4095 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Lol Cuteness overload when doctor says Sture Bergwall. Not a hundred percent convinced, that' this is the proper pronounciation. But that's okay, that's our American doctor. ❤️

    • @nono-gw7qm
      @nono-gw7qm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It’s not, I’m Swedish 😂❤️

    • @junglekimmy3611
      @junglekimmy3611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nono-gw7qm agreed lol

    • @irishis3
      @irishis3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How do you pronounce it?

    • @junglekimmy3611
      @junglekimmy3611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@irishis3 He was on his right way but it should have been a longer eeee at the end. Like Stuu-reee ( kinda like kombinding the word stew and re (do re mi fa so la ti)

    • @m.f.richardson1602
      @m.f.richardson1602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Who cares.
      Do you always get things right 🙃

  • @BigZebraCom
    @BigZebraCom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Aren't fake serial killers the worst? Just the worst! except for the real serial killers, of course.

  • @davidkrech4671
    @davidkrech4671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dr. Grande, I have spent time in therapy for PTSD and autism spectrum disorder. So I find your work fascinating!

  • @dextermorgan1
    @dextermorgan1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I, unfortunately, have taken lots(and lots)of Benzos in my life. The "memory enhancement" qualities of them is not great, to say the least. As a matter of fact, Benzos would probably be someone's last drug of choice to retrieve some kind of repressed memories.

  • @Strype13
    @Strype13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Is it still considered an alibi when the person has zero interest in using it to prove they weren't complicit?

    • @LouisGiliberto
      @LouisGiliberto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Alibi means specifically that one is saying - or has evidence - that they were not at a place when an event occurred. So in a sense, yeah, if the cops ask me "Where were you june 3rd at 8pm" and I say I was at Denny's eating a Grand Slam, then it's an "alibi" even though I have zero interest in proving I wasn't complicit simply because I don't know that I need to or what for.
      But if the cops asking me where I was, and I say "Oh I was in the room with the victim" then that's not an alibi whether or not I care because the premise of an alibi is that I wasn't at the place where an event occurred.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      PZ- good question!

  • @IzzyOnTheMove
    @IzzyOnTheMove 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Murder by pipe cleaner 😄😄😄 now that would take a lot of rage

  • @gcham1209
    @gcham1209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "IM SANTA AND THIS IS A HO HO HOLDUP!!!!!"

  • @johnmccabe1974
    @johnmccabe1974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who considers Thomas a victim? He gained notoriety and privileges from his lies. He started the ball rolling for a bunch of closeted and ambitious clinicians with those lies. He was prepared to enjoy those lies benefits for a number of years and his final admission of falsehood appears to have cost him nothing as far as punishment goes.

  • @jonathankessler7436
    @jonathankessler7436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He was just doing the interviews for the free benzodiazepines.

  • @analogalien651
    @analogalien651 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I’m surprised to hear there’s no such thing as a repressed memory as per dr grande without going into why trauma victims who suffer from traumatic brain injuries and amnesia can’t remember what happens, which happens all the time and survivors are used as witnesses against them on trial

    • @girlwhomustnotbenamed4139
      @girlwhomustnotbenamed4139 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, a lot of trauma does get repressed and the victims literally can't remember things that happened to them. I found it odd the way he said it, maybe he would use different terminology for this phenomenon?

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This seems like a good suggestion for Dr. Grande's next video. You both make a good point.

    • @dennisfranssonfransson1055
      @dennisfranssonfransson1055 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You can lose you memory because of accident, old age.
      You can't lose your memory because you want to (that's what repressed memories mean)

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dennisfranssonfransson1055 Too bad we can't. I'd like to forget a few things, and people.

  • @l.w.paradis2108
    @l.w.paradis2108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    False confessions are remarkably common, and this fact is highly counterintuitive. This is one of the first things criminal lawyers learn.

  • @GrandmaRose9000
    @GrandmaRose9000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why would anyone *want* to to treat a serial killer? The clinicians sound bizarre. "I'm lucky to have a serial killer as a patient." What the heck?

    • @christinabernat6709
      @christinabernat6709 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is sad, but the public - or within their professional circle - attention they get raises their STATUS as a result - gets their name into history books, into case studies, into media coverage, into a movie if one is made about the serial killer (hmmm, what actor will play me? Maybe I can play me!), etc. Sad though - for them to think like that!

  • @annebruecks7381
    @annebruecks7381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well, now I’m going to be on the lookout for ‘murder by pipe cleaner’ thanks Dr. G! 🤣

  • @thejudgmentalcat
    @thejudgmentalcat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The lamp is back! Whew...carry on

  • @flotreize3447
    @flotreize3447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dear Dr Grande, are you considering doing a video on Rachel Dolezal case ? It could be most interesting. Many thanks.

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think he did that one a long time ago.

    • @flotreize3447
      @flotreize3447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LDiamondz couldn't find it. Do you have the link to that video ?

    • @JustDr.S
      @JustDr.S 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@flotreize3447 I looked and couldn't find it, either. It might have been on his Patreon.

  • @claytonbigsby1436
    @claytonbigsby1436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    🤔 If they were truly worried about the variant the border would be closed, 😆Right!!!

  • @alimar0604
    @alimar0604 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I couldn't help laughing out loud at your deadpan presentation of this bizarre case. But, importantly, you look so handsome in your pale blue shirt 🎽🇬🇧

  • @Jabo__Jabo
    @Jabo__Jabo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dr. Grande: would you please take a look at the Garrett Phillips case?

  • @Oneofakind123
    @Oneofakind123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You pronounce the e in his name. StuurE.
    Got the surname close enough though 😉

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol. If you think that pronunciation was bad, you must be new here! It's just one of his many endearing traits! Welcome to the show! :)

  • @freemeow
    @freemeow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I found it more engaging then a confession great job doctor

  • @brrryan2908
    @brrryan2908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A polygraph would have revealed the truth!
    Just messing with ya Doc! Lol!
    "Fake murders" is another real joy, by Dr. Grande! :)

  • @EgaoKage
    @EgaoKage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It seems like, in addition to Thomas' own motivations for making such claims, he was being exploited by law enforcement.

  • @johaniln
    @johaniln 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Many books has been written about this interesting case. I've read The Stange Case of Thomas Quick by Dan Josefsson, which I really recommend. There is also a Swedish feature film called Quick from 2019 by the director Mikael Håfström.

  • @YTStoleMyUsername
    @YTStoleMyUsername ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dr. Grande, would you consider doing a review on the Hulu/FX Show "The Patient" with Steve Carrell?
    It brings up interesting points to consider. Most importantly, if a serial killer (or potential serial killer, or mass murderer, etc) would come to a therapist for help to stop their crimes or prevent them from giving in to the urge to kill, how would a therapist handle that? Many people see these awful stories in the news and we say to each other "There were so many red flags, if only something was done sooner" ... What is that "something?"
    The show is not over yet but maybe when it is it would be great if you could consider it as a potential topic. Thanks for your amazing work!

  • @kazamamuramasa8201
    @kazamamuramasa8201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why don't you do Marjorie Taylor Greene...?

  • @louise2467
    @louise2467 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would want you, DrG, to work with my lawyer, if I ever get arrested falsely, of a grizzly crime!! Obvs if I really did do it, I’d prefer it if you stayed away…….🤨😣

  • @shaman9628
    @shaman9628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So you do believe in Conspiracies.....You are such a hypocrite!😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

  • @patriciabuuck5277
    @patriciabuuck5277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Poor Thomas. The cops were ecstatic this guy confessed to everything. You'd think they would be a little bit suspicious

    • @CriticalityIncident
      @CriticalityIncident 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think they were way too excited to be involved in a serial killer case to have any desire to be suspicious and use some critical thinking.

  • @saminbloom3009
    @saminbloom3009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Dr. Grande! Long time viewer, first time commenter. Just want to thank you for the consistently amazing content. It’s hard to find nowadays. Always look forward to your videos ✌🏼

  • @nubbetudde8922
    @nubbetudde8922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There is so to speak a "political" aspect of this to during this time there where a very influential professor in psychiatry and a "nationatial prosecutor" who believed heavily in repressed memories and other doubtable theories. Those two persons names you will se in a bunch of criminal investigations leading to
    destroyed lives of innocents in Sweden.
    Take look at the Kevin case. It is in my opinion one of the most upsetting cases.

    • @jonasaman9104
      @jonasaman9104 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes Christer van der Kwast (with more then willing help of Sven Å Christianson the pseudoscientific and unreliable professor of psychology) is the person that with out doubt have made the most damage to the Swedish justice system ( Sture Bergwall is more or less interchageble with any other nutcase willing to play along)
      If you will visit The Kevin case you will see Sven Å Christianson again :)

  • @brianpratt3224
    @brianpratt3224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Well that was quick

    • @cheridehart7771
      @cheridehart7771 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha, ha, ha, funny. Took me a few to get it.😇

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol.

  • @jessicaj8564
    @jessicaj8564 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sture = stew-reh NOT Stirrrrhh

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's been butchering foreign names since the channel started. It's part of his charm. You'll get used to it. Welcome to the channel. :)

  • @aileenburke4667
    @aileenburke4667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A pipe cleaner or something. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @andybeans5790
    @andybeans5790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was watching my last video at x0.5 so Dr Grande sounded medicated when I started this one 😂

  • @plutonium87
    @plutonium87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm thinking this was a combination of a few people building their careers on this case (encouraging people down the line not to question anything too much) and Thomas got the attention he was craving for. One of several legal scandals in Sweden and yes - it sure helped undermine ones faith in the system.

  • @dsbond8048
    @dsbond8048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are Keystone cops in every country. A similar case is the one of Keith Jseperson (Happyface Killer) and Laverne Pavlinac in Portland, OR. Please do a video.

  • @dougsteel7414
    @dougsteel7414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some cops are the worst people for the job. Just the worst people really. And if you think it's a tiny minority, that doesn't statistically fit with a whole department going along with this.

  • @willydeezle
    @willydeezle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video doc. Would like to see one on Markieth Llloyd

  • @veronikabelina3188
    @veronikabelina3188 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remember that it was a big scandal here in Sweden when the truth finally came out. So embarrassing for the police, the lawyers, the doctors etc that they sentenced an innocent man for all these crimes that he never committed 🤦‍♀️

  • @elanahammer1076
    @elanahammer1076 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dr. Grande can you consider doing any TH-cam follow up content videos? I am curious as in this case if any cases where actually able to be solved? Unfortunately the time and resources that law enforcement and the mental health community spent on this individual may have taken opportunities to apprehend the perpetrator of these crimes. Thank you 🤔

  • @zenawarrior7442
    @zenawarrior7442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Right before you said attention, I had the same thought. Sad & amazing what sick people will do & the counselors were just as bad. Thanks Dr G😊💟💟

  • @thesurfinsuricate
    @thesurfinsuricate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @Dr. Todd Grande - wouldn't Uday Hussein be an interesting subject to analyze?

  • @zd5587
    @zd5587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quick”It was me, with a knife, in the kitchen.” Cops”we will give you another guess”

  • @sekenamcmurren2217
    @sekenamcmurren2217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thomas was like "I'll tell you whatever copper just buy me a burger"! Lol 😆🍔

  • @debbiethompson14
    @debbiethompson14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vanity and ego run riot. On behalf of the conditions and the patient. Oh they all got attention all right but the negative kind.. Well I guess attention is attention.

  • @loriannalamuse9089
    @loriannalamuse9089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had an ex-boyfriend tell me he was the happy face killer. He was not.

    • @erikparent8176
      @erikparent8176 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, at least he had a happy face! 🙂

  • @roynilsen7557
    @roynilsen7557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the police in Norway dont care if they take right man, not even the court , so in this contry many not criminel sit in gail , and if the police dont like you, maybee you next time

  • @jerryc3050
    @jerryc3050 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lol: I swear, Dr. Grande, your last sentence of this video continues to demonstrate to me you arid, dry wit. lol!

  • @blueeyes6852
    @blueeyes6852 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Funny how people do what works for them, then find out later it didn't work at all.
    Sad that so many are lonely in a world of 331 million!
    I'm very much appreciative of you and what you do Doctor Grande. Thank you for helping us!
    💛🌵🌻

  • @DrHenryAuD
    @DrHenryAuD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would you ever consider doing a video on Todd Kendhammer? I’d love to hear your analysis of the case.
    (Great video, as always)

  • @iainholmes2735
    @iainholmes2735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid. But it does make one ponder: can pipe cleaners be dangerous in the wrong hands?

  • @yawn1887
    @yawn1887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been trying to remember this case and ask you about it. The book is very interesting it lays the blame on one of the hospitals doctor who was having therapy with another doctor who was tell her about the forgotten memorys and wanted to write a paper about it.