The TRM Atom might get 75 additional cuts on rope but can it skin a grizzly bear or build a small cabin in a survival situation? I think not. - Uncle Randy
We used to do that here in Australia with Platypus, but because they have a poison spine on their back legs, we had to kill them to use their tails. Buggers are near-extinct now.
In russia they use a living bear. In norway a living salmon. In sweden we use our forearm and in finland they use a swede, how may start living and at the end .......
if buck would make a pokemon 110, it would really help bring their line into the new era lets keep the brass linerbolsters, blue frn,, handles, and red DLC. are you listining buck knifes company?
I bought my buck 110 for 25$ brand new in 2019 . You can't beat that for the quality of knife, the only down side it has with me is it's a lil heavy to be in my pocket every day.
Just received a Buck 110 drop point 420HC with aluminum bolsters, black micarta and pocket clip from Copper and Clad. Damn this thing is light! Can't go wrong with Bos 420HC and Ontario 5160 (fixed blade) for backpacking or hunting.
In the States the original 110 is about $45 plus tax+ship the cv20 110 runs around $100 plus tax and ship. P.S. thanks for the testing "lab". While your results may not be "scientific" per se, they have an excellent and practical methodology and you should be commended for your work.
I thought I was the only one with that same dream...results were pretty much what I expected. Interesting none the less. Get yourself some wood glue as well lol. Keep that board alive!
Cedric you are fucking awesome and I think you are doing a great thing for the knife community, and metallurgy as well. Have you ever thought about implementing another test to test other aspects of the metal? I know you've done corrosion resistance tests but if you put your mind to it, with your knowledge I think you could come up, or use another test for knives that can be practical and affordable. I might also be talking out of my ass, but you've had so many knives in hand and tested so many, that I feel like by now you could come up with something new, and something that can actually be used scientifically/to measure data across all boards.
Maybe BOS' heat treat process is such that it doesn't apply as well with other TYPES of steels? Maybe 420 just reacts in a special way to the process.. I don't know, I'm having a hard time articulating my thought because I don't know enough about heat treating and how it works. I'd be curious to see if the new Buck slims do as well in a cut test? I assume the results would be the same-ish, it would be nice to see proof that they aren't using worse steel for the much cheaper slims.
Got a zt today in 20cv and have been looking at all your old videos about teh steel and was wondering when you'd do a kme test on it then hey presto a new notification and a nice nerdy retention test to satisfy me, can always rely on you Pete!
To be completely fair, CERN hasn't collected nearly as much data on, nor developed nearly as sophisticated knife edge retention tests as the Knife Lab. When I want to learn about the higgs boson, I'll consult the experts at CERN. When I want to learn about neutrino oscillations, I'll consult the experts at FermiLab. When I want to learn about knife steel performance, I consult the experts at the Knife Lab.
I was carrying my Buck 110 my friend had a Benchmade Bugout. He called me Uncle Randy and then his shitty little piece of plastic broke because the handle wasn't up to the task.........who's the got the better knife?
buck does great 420HC better than most - Bucks heat treat on other steels is good but not as much better over other makers --I have 420 HC - S30V - and 154CM from buck and i like them all but the 154CM is really hard and abrasion resistant ---Cheers Pete
A bit of wood glue should get that chopping board fixed no worries. Decent wood glue is stronger than wood, but even the cheap stuff should hold up ok.
On an earlier video (Buck 110 vs. the Leatherman) the Buck 110 420HC only got 67 cuts. In this video the Buck got 175 cuts. What accounts for the difference?
He remove the factory edge by sharpening it back.. i always heard people said factory sharpen using belt grinder always burn the edge and weaken the heat treat at the edge.. thats what i notice even on my benchmade.
Some very traditional Buck knife enthusiasts are going to find your channel via this video and be mighty confused by that intro. Probably feel the need to a have shower to wash away the strange feelings, make sure the millennialness doesn't get under the skin.
Yew need a new cutting board, mate. Also, could be that fixing down the cutting board might be easier on your hands. When it moves with the cut, it makes you work harder to keep the edge in place.
Best channel on the tube! And the only one i watch start to finish. Here is the US i would say if you pay for the upgrade to cpm20cv from Buck that you get your moneys worth. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Am I mistaken, or did you get more cuts with the Buck 420 HC in this video than you did with the Cold Steel AUS10 video you did a while back? That's unexpected.
D. Good point! With the Spartan in AUS10 he got 150 cuts (factory edge) and 140 or so with the Worksharp 20 deg edge. No KME edge in that test - probably bc of the recurve 😛 But the result does put the 420HC up with those ‘good’ ingot steels (154cm etc).
You think 20° on the lansky is good for the buck 110 ? I got it stone sharpened by kyle Noseworthy/weiderfan the first sharpening but would like to do it myself this time .
Too bad there’s no a way to test toughness. Esee has a video of a high Rockwell S35VN that broke in half, arguably due to brittleness from the high Rockwell.
I wouldn't get either one, simply because they're hollow ground. That grind is great for making cuts in meat, slicing paper, and carving, but with such a thin edge suddenly blooming into the full stock thickness, it creates more friction when making deep slices. That grind is perfect for razors and skinning knives, but pretty worthless for anything else.
So if you add the time it takes to sharpen the blade...the 420HC would be a better choice for me. Plus if you hone the blade after uses you will get more cuts out if it. Higher end steels are nice but I don't like spending a day sharpening. Plus since you don't have Uncle Randy around.......I will say it......Why on earth do young folk these days think they need steel that can withstand a Nuke just to cut string and cardboard boxes? Back in my day we had 420C in my Buck and could kill and skin a deer with it then sharpen it on a rock
He's too busy putting mirror edges on his knives to worry about some pesky wood glue. But seriously two screws into the timber bench underneath would atleast stop it from running away on him. But we are nit picking. Great vid as usual!
When Buck makes a 20CV 110, configured like the one in this video, with thumb studs and a pocket clip, I'll buy one. Until then, I'll continue to pass, because it's not 1976 anymore.
The TRM Atom might get 75 additional cuts on rope but can it skin a grizzly bear or build a small cabin in a survival situation? I think not.
- Uncle Randy
Grey Holm hhh epic
It's not the size, mind you, but rather how you use it!
I have flashbacks of acid trips taken in the 70's from that Intro 🤣☣💊🤔
420HC at 170+ cuts is insane. Well done Paul Bos.
in Canada we strop our knives on a beaver tail.
In the U.S. we stop our $@*&% on a beaver😉
We used to do that here in Australia with Platypus, but because they have a poison spine on their back legs, we had to kill them to use their tails. Buggers are near-extinct now.
In Canada we strop our knives on our wife’s vagina. Lol.
In russia they use a living bear. In norway a living salmon. In sweden we use our forearm and in finland they use a swede, how may start living and at the end .......
In MALAYSIA we strop our knives at banana leaf 😂
That price difference in just a Buck 110 is insane. Where I live in the us I can get a buck 110 for $35
ye got mine for $40
$200 for buck 110 in New Zealand 😕
"This isn't CERN.." (pans camera to bring sweet knife lab sign into frame as if to prove this is the knife lab and indeed isn't CERN)
That intro was wild. I dig it haha
if buck would make a pokemon 110, it would really help bring their line into the new era lets keep the brass linerbolsters, blue frn,, handles, and red DLC. are you listining buck knifes company?
I bought my buck 110 for 25$ brand new in 2019 . You can't beat that for the quality of knife, the only down side it has with me is it's a lil heavy to be in my pocket every day.
Use the 55.It's great for 90% of my EDC.PS i live in a small city in Belgium not Alaska :)
Under $20 for the LT version with the thick black plastic handle.
One of two things just happened to me: I clicked on the newest Cedric and Ada or I got slipped an Ambien laced with acid. Only time will tell.
So which was it? Asking for myself
@@Ash__7 - 我 denken il было 그만큼 happo.
Hint: Chinese, German, French, Russian, Jorean, Finnish.
@@Abby_Normal_1969 Thanks
Is your username a young Frankenstein reference?
@@garethbaus5471 - stay close to the candles...the staircase can be traitorous.
Is a Buck 110 video without Uncle Randy still a Buck 110 video?
Don’t worry, they'll show up in the comments.
Just received a Buck 110 drop point 420HC with aluminum bolsters, black micarta and pocket clip from Copper and Clad. Damn this thing is light! Can't go wrong with Bos 420HC and Ontario 5160 (fixed blade) for backpacking or hunting.
Damn it dude. I like your videos way too much. I get all happy when I see something new pop up. Thank you.
That 20cv buck looks great. Thanks for the nightmares Pete!
4 years later that Intro still cracks me up😂
I love that 28,000 people had to sit through it to get to the content they were seeking haha
@@CedricAda you sir are a gem🤣🤣🤣
You should submit your channel to Guinness world records. It’s gotta have the most documented rope cuts ever by one person.
It's amazing how you can quadruple the performance on 420HC by the sharpening technique you use.
In the States the original 110 is about $45 plus tax+ship the cv20 110 runs around $100 plus tax and ship. P.S. thanks for the testing "lab". While your results may not be "scientific" per se, they have an excellent and practical methodology and you should be commended for your work.
I thought I was the only one with that same dream...results were pretty much what I expected. Interesting none the less. Get yourself some wood glue as well lol. Keep that board alive!
Cedric you are fucking awesome and I think you are doing a great thing for the knife community, and metallurgy as well. Have you ever thought about implementing another test to test other aspects of the metal? I know you've done corrosion resistance tests but if you put your mind to it, with your knowledge I think you could come up, or use another test for knives that can be practical and affordable. I might also be talking out of my ass, but you've had so many knives in hand and tested so many, that I feel like by now you could come up with something new, and something that can actually be used scientifically/to measure data across all boards.
Best edits on the Internet. Love the Knife Lab.
Maybe BOS' heat treat process is such that it doesn't apply as well with other TYPES of steels? Maybe 420 just reacts in a special way to the process.. I don't know, I'm having a hard time articulating my thought because I don't know enough about heat treating and how it works.
I'd be curious to see if the new Buck slims do as well in a cut test? I assume the results would be the same-ish, it would be nice to see proof that they aren't using worse steel for the much cheaper slims.
That Intro made me want to hug my dog, but my dog ran from the room while it was playing so here I sit...twitching...waiting...alone...
Got a zt today in 20cv and have been looking at all your old videos about teh steel and was wondering when you'd do a kme test on it then hey presto a new notification and a nice nerdy retention test to satisfy me, can always rely on you Pete!
Hope all is well and you have not suffered wth the bush fires. Keep up the good work.
I'm going to go take lsd and rewatch the intro brb
I hear that's how Elijah Isham conjures up new designs.
I don't think you will be back
Can I have some please?
😂🤘🏻
To be completely fair, CERN hasn't collected nearly as much data on, nor developed nearly as sophisticated knife edge retention tests as the Knife Lab. When I want to learn about the higgs boson, I'll consult the experts at CERN. When I want to learn about neutrino oscillations, I'll consult the experts at FermiLab. When I want to learn about knife steel performance, I consult the experts at the Knife Lab.
I was carrying my Buck 110 my friend had a Benchmade Bugout. He called me Uncle Randy and then his shitty little piece of plastic broke because the handle wasn't up to the task.........who's the got the better knife?
Bwuaaaahaaa bwuaaaahaaa bwuaaaahaaa 😁 😁 😁
The Bugout is a piece of 💩
buck does great 420HC better than most - Bucks heat treat on other steels is good but not as much better over other makers --I have 420 HC - S30V - and 154CM from buck and i like them all but the 154CM is really hard and abrasion resistant ---Cheers Pete
That's why 420HC is one of personal my favorite blade steels.
I am lucky enough to have a 44 year old buck 110 it is a awesome piece of history
You can find Buck 110’s for $30 in the US
Yep Australia gets shafted on pricing
Jason Burns the extra cost comes from shipping something so incredibly heavy.
Mythowrose 27 🤣🤣🤣
Cedric the Buck 110 folder at Walmart in America cost 35$ with the leather sheath. Inpicked one up a cpl months ago
A bit of wood glue should get that chopping board fixed no worries. Decent wood glue is stronger than wood, but even the cheap stuff should hold up ok.
I found my buck 110 in a old shed. Its a 2006 i think. I also found a spyderco native laying in gravel. Its the GIN 1 version
You have great luck!
thanks bro. i have the same 20cv buck 110, love this thing, got a breass thumb bar on it
11/10 intro in this one
If I can get 170+ curs out of each of my knives, I’ll never need to sharpen a knife ever again!
Other than the intro, Uncle Randy would be proud.
You finaly can say H right for us in the U.S.👍 You can say it the other way for knives made outside of the US if it easier.
Haha, i tried really hard on that in this video 😂
Getting a Kershaw Bareknuckle in CPM 20CV in the post tomorrow, so this is very well timed.
R.A Williams where did you buy it from that sounds great
@@mythowrose2742 Knifecenter.com, it's a Knifecenter exclusive with champagne colored handles and a black DLC coating on the blade.
JFC man, talk about a fever dream at the beginning.... MR MIME MR MIME MR MIME
You should be able to use the Large Hardon Collider for these tests, frankly
The 110 in 520HC runs $39.99 at Walmart here in the USA.
Wallmart not post outside
I just like sharpening 1095 and 12C27...😝
On an earlier video (Buck 110 vs. the Leatherman) the Buck 110 420HC only got 67 cuts. In this video the Buck got 175 cuts. What accounts for the difference?
He remove the factory edge by sharpening it back.. i always heard people said factory sharpen using belt grinder always burn the edge and weaken the heat treat at the edge.. thats what i notice even on my benchmade.
de actual fu
Wow I just Supported your channel!!! :D
And Hit Like button!!! :D
Holy shit i missed knifelab with shitty intros. Thanks pete.
Some very traditional Buck knife enthusiasts are going to find your channel via this video and be mighty confused by that intro. Probably feel the need to a have shower to wash away the strange feelings, make sure the millennialness doesn't get under the skin.
That intro is disturbing as! 😳
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(But freaking awesome! 😜)
That caught me a lil off guard ill be honest. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 killer.
I love the final fantasy music you put in your videos
5:44 what's the Song?
Holyshit mr. Mime almost made me lose my mind
Nice video.
How does the 20CV vs 420HC compare on rigidity? You can get a knife so hard that it has no flexibility and you can break it pretty easy.
Cardboard sign at CERN:
LaRGe hADron ColliDor!
Mr Mime Mr Mime lol!!!
Yay! Great vid Pete!)
Yew need a new cutting board, mate. Also, could be that fixing down the cutting board might be easier on your hands. When it moves with the cut, it makes you work harder to keep the edge in place.
Best channel on the tube! And the only one i watch start to finish.
Here is the US i would say if you pay for the upgrade to cpm20cv from Buck that you get your moneys worth. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
excellent
Water proof wood glue, a few clamps and wooden cauls are the tools and materials required to repair your cutting board.😉
Awwww, didn't have the BOS S35VN 😞
I love my buck 110 20cv
Woww man this intro was fucking legendary😵😵 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Did you have to pay extra for that thumb stud? Or did you add it yourself?
Greetings. Can you please wright a results. I dont speak English sp good..
Which one would Uncle Randy choose?
Am I mistaken, or did you get more cuts with the Buck 420 HC in this video than you did with the Cold Steel AUS10 video you did a while back? That's unexpected.
D. Good point!
With the Spartan in AUS10 he got 150 cuts (factory edge) and 140 or so with the Worksharp 20 deg edge.
No KME edge in that test - probably bc of the recurve 😛
But the result does put the 420HC up with those ‘good’ ingot steels (154cm etc).
Fark me. He DID do a KME edge. (At the end of the Spartan review)
Got 210 cuts. Cold Steel can heat treat😛
And where do we find the Ultra Instinct Steel🤔?
I was too sober for that intro
That ff7 music got me like
Best into since that time your family left you.
You would need CPM-S3500VN to split atoms.
Is that also ridge racer music????!!!!
You think 20° on the lansky is good for the buck 110 ? I got it stone sharpened by kyle Noseworthy/weiderfan the first sharpening but would like to do it myself this time .
How much do kyle charge for sharpening ? is he in the US or canada ?
@@harisyoung4110 NL Canada
Too bad there’s no a way to test toughness. Esee has a video of a high Rockwell S35VN that broke in half, arguably due to brittleness from the high Rockwell.
That sure was an.. unconventional intro there friend
Bloody hell LOL that's right start the knife review off with nightmare fuel
Your not just in a shed you’re in the knife Lab
If it takes a third of the time to sharpen but is only twice as long lasting, cpm 20cv lost. Which sucks cause I have that exact same one lol
Did you actually watch the video….??? 😂😂😂😂
@@theblake5356 yes, why?
@@fathersonsurvival Watch it again…. This time pay close attention.
@@theblake5356 can you please just tell me? I’ve seen it a lot.
Adult Swim sponsorship is on it's way right?
I wouldn't get either one, simply because they're hollow ground. That grind is great for making cuts in meat, slicing paper, and carving, but with such a thin edge suddenly blooming into the full stock thickness, it creates more friction when making deep slices. That grind is perfect for razors and skinning knives, but pretty worthless for anything else.
Gonna press X to doubt on that one. I’ve used my 110s for far more than that and never had problems, hang ups, or “extreme friction”.
Damn Pete! That intro was toxic ( ͡◉ ͜ʖ ͡◉)
If you sharpen at 17°, what angle do you strop at?
Same angle
same angle, they are stropping plates that fix into the same place ln the system as the sharpening plates
Mr.Mime 😳🥺😖😭😭 Mommyyyy!!!
Man got to do somethin bout that intro please
So if you add the time it takes to sharpen the blade...the 420HC would be a better choice for me. Plus if you hone the blade after uses you will get more cuts out if it. Higher end steels are nice but I don't like spending a day sharpening. Plus since you don't have Uncle Randy around.......I will say it......Why on earth do young folk these days think they need steel that can withstand a Nuke just to cut string and cardboard boxes? Back in my day we had 420C in my Buck and could kill and skin a deer with it then sharpen it on a rock
I’m sure it’s been said but buck 110’s are actually like $30-$35 at Walmart. I’ll send you one if you want $80 in uk? Hell nah
Someone needs some wood glue
Pretty easy to fix, lol.
He's too busy putting mirror edges on his knives to worry about some pesky wood glue.
But seriously two screws into the timber bench underneath would atleast stop it from running away on him.
But we are nit picking. Great vid as usual!
420 steel is ok enough just don’t use it as a prying bar, n u be fine
Bahahaha awesome intro!!!! 👍
Da fuq did i just stumble on to? I came here to see knives
instead you are now cursed by mr mime. pulled a fast on on ye
I WILL blame you if I have nightmares.
These ‘tests’ are always (deliberately ?)ambiguous….. I’ll simplify it for you; The 20CV is far superior.
When Buck makes a 20CV 110, configured like the one in this video, with thumb studs and a pocket clip, I'll buy one. Until then, I'll continue to pass, because it's not 1976 anymore.
3rd
BUCK 110 so strong it can cut a nail. Or so say their old advertising
Uncle Randy thinks I'm a Communist because I own a Buck, B500.