The Thing from Another World - "We finally got one..."
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- From Howard Hawks' production of The Thing from Another World. Made in 1951, The Thing was perfect for its time. Sightings of UFOs were going up (Kenneth Arnold used the words saucer, disc or pie-plate to describe the one he saw and the term "flying saucer" grew out of that) and this film plays into that zeitgeist perfectly.
This is my favorite scene in the film, in fact my favorite in any SF film of the 50's. An arctic research station has detected a crash landing of a large aircraft and an Air Force support crew, headed by Ken Tobey, goes up to help investigate. They fly out to the crash site with the scientists from the station and a reporter, Ned Scott, played by Douglas Spencer.
When they get there, something is frozen in the ice. A fin or stabilizer is jutting out just above the surface of the ice and a shape is clearly visible. The head of the research station suggests they all stand at the edges of the object to determine its shape. That's when they realize...
Everything in this scene is perfect. The acting, the writing, the music, the camera placement. It's not widescreen, but it effectively uses academy aperture to indicate that whatever they've found is big. The camera pans from right to left, keeping us off balance and letting us know the find is too big to fit in the frame. Dimitri Tiomkin's music is right on, especially the "sting" when they realize...
Just watch...
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"Geiger Counter is going crazy." Ah the 50s. High radiation procedures call for taking photos and lighting a cigarette...
To Steven Smyth, 1950-60s SciFi came in the twilight of the Studio System and is often why their direction, writing, and at times special effect were excellent considering the budgets they worked with. Them led the audience on discovering the Ants almost like a police procedural and used sound to hint at what was out there menacingly before the big reveal....
What makes this scene---and for me the whole movie--is the spirit of can-do optimism. There's none of the self-doubt or cynicism that infects so many modern films. These are men having the adventure of their lives, knowing that they're in danger, but never doubting that they'll win in the end. When they find the flying saucer, they're scared, but only a little. They're mostly thrilled and delighted, like a group of Boy Scouts on their first camping trip. I just love this scene because it's drenched in old-school postwar American optimism.
Exactly what got them through world wars and allowed them to cope with the world in1950.
Interesting observation.And I feel accurate.
@@dwightbrown7252 it's actually what caused korean war and Vietnam. What got folks through ww2 was surviving the depression and know what surviving was. Victory has defeated us. Cockiness is what has defeated us
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When I was a kid, I asked my vet father if Americans ever worried they would lose to the Japanese or Germans in WWII. He said, "No, we always knew we would win, it was just a matter of time." Many of today's kids quit before they even get a challenge.
i watched this movie en 1975 in my grandmother's convenient store, and it filled my mind with lots of fantasies , in lima peru#
I saw this at the Ritz theatre in 1968 on a Saturday double feature. They always had good SciFi films at the Ritz on the weekends. That’s where I saw most of the early Toho Godzilla movies.
Luis, Greetings from Georgia, USA!
Still gives you chills. The film had some fine actors and great screenplay!
ONE of the best movies,and one of the greatest scenes.
......the manner in which the movie's dialogue is carried out is what makes this film special. People, in normal conversations, many times 'step on' others words. This is the first time a film was made with the actors not waiting for each other to completely finish their line before the response or follow up began.
Howard Hawks used overlapping dialogue for the first time in "His Girl Friday" with Cary Grant and Rosalind Russell in 1940. He would also employ it in "To Have and Have Not", 1944 and "The Big Sleep", 1946, both starring Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall. Of course, all of these films predate "The Thing..." and Hawks didn't use the technique in every one of his movies as, at the time, it was controversial. "Adam's Rib", 1949, starring Spencer Tracey and Katherine Hepburn, has dialog tailor made for the actors but it isn't overlapping, it's just rapid-fire. Again, "The Thing..." is not directed by Hawks, it is Christian Nyby's movie, even though it has all the elements that make it a great Hawksian experience. Hawks was Nyby's mentor and this is one of the few feature films Nyby would direct, as he was a prolific director of episodic television. Of course now we associate overlapping dialog with Robert Altman, Quentin Tarantino and Aaron Sorkin, but they all cite Hawks as their inspiration.
Yeah, this really worked well. Also notice how the Air Force guys never refer to themselves by rank, only by first name or "sir."
Greetings, This was a B-movie with B actors with a B expense account, but this film always impressed by the dialogue. Now, I loved the film and every aspect about it, but it was much later that it hit why I watched the movie at least once a year. It was the overlapping dialogue! One of Howard Hawks' successful directing secrets. I am now a Hawks fan. The Thing is one of the top three 'classic' sci-fi pictures of all time. :-)
That was Howard Hawks style. He often had overlapping dialogue in his films. I have always found it annoying.
I love it. It works so well in this movie, especially with the military crew, and the group of scientists. You really feel like the military guys have been a unit for a long time, and you can feel the same with the scientists. It feels very realistic, and also appropriately claustrophobic in the setting.
The scene where they spread out on the ice to find the shape of the ship is great, especially with the music to set the eerie mood. Now a days the movie makers would CGI an actual space ship, not anywhere near as effective as not showing it and leaving it to the imagination of the audience.
Very well said -- I remember it well, from when I was only 6.
Don Gilleo
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3:52 STING CHORDS
@@francisobrien7452 They don't. Make movies like this one anymore, it seems nowadays. If there's no. swearing, and. No. Sleazy. shots. Of nudity. the film. Industry. won't make a movie, shows you where this sick. World is heading,. If you want to watch any good. Sci.
Fi. It's the. Ones. From. The. 1950s. Just look. at. all. the great. Movies. Of the. Past. AND TO THINK THEY DIDNT HAVE. ALL. THE. COMPUTER. SPECIAL. EFFECTS. THEY. HAVE NOW,. AND STILL DONT. COME CLOSE. TO HOW GOOD THOSE. OLD SCI. FI. MOVIES. WERE, SITTING IN. A CONVERTIBLE, TOP. DOWN. ON. A WARM. STAR. FILLED. SKY. AT THE DRIVE IN,. YOU. COULD. FILL. UP YOUR. CAR,. GO. OUT. TO EAT. ON A. FRIDAY NIGHT. AND GO TO. THE. DRIVE. IN. ALL. WITH. 10 DOLLARS. AND. STILL HAVE. MONEY. LEFT OVER,. NOW. YOU GO TO. MCDONALS. IT. COST. YOU. Almost. 9 DOLLARS. FOR. ONE. HAMBURGER ,AND THATS. NO. FRIES OR. DRINK OUTRAGEOUS,! GREED. NOW DAYS. HAS. NO. E,ND
Both Kenneth Tobey and Hugh Marlowe are two of most underrated actors in all of Hollywood! They both could carry a movie as the lead actor without any problem. Kenneth Tobey's performance in this movie is superb. He is completely and totally believable as a USAF Captain who finds himself in charge of a group of individuals facing a complete unknown terrifying enemy from another world. He should have received an academy award for this picture because he was perfect. Howard Hawks was also superb! Every supporting actor in this incredibly scary movie, (for this time period), was spot-on but none better than Tobey. This feature will always be a classic along with "The Day the Earth Stood Still" with Hugh Marlowe.
Great Comment above.
When those scientists all fan out, and then raise their arms to form the buried saucer's circumference, the profundity of that moment, combined with Dimitri Tiomkin's unabashedly-weird score, still thrills me to the core.
The Music has SO much to do with making B-Movie magic transcendent...
Fav sci fi movie
That has to be some of the best "oh shit" music I ever heard.
Holy cats!
The 1950s aliens are the best because they were pure, though some could take on the appearance or inhabit human beings for the most part they are as advertised Aliens!!! Next to the iconic Forbeden Planet, The Thing stands out not only in menace but also in imagination that made the Golden Era of Scifi unique in American Cinema.
That, is why John Carpenter used the scene in Halloween when the kids had the T.V. on Classic and he loved it, And so have I over a hundred times. Music sheer terror... AND SOME OF THE BEST ONE LINERS. Monumental..
cant make them like this any more , smart people left Hollywood long time ago
The smart ones fled from Europe when Hitler declared an unofficial war on millions of citizens.
I like the respect for the military here. Camaraderie and dedication to mission that we seldom see in Hollywood these days
The scene where the explorers discover the object in the ice is round was thrilling.
I love this movie! I first saw it when I was about 5 or 6 yrs. The only two scene's that I remembered were when they doused the 'Thing' with kerosene and he went running out the window into the snow. Must have been the flames on a body that I could identify with.
That was an awesome scene!
This is the point when I grab some provisions and start heading in the opposite direction.
Classic Movie...Classic scene... : )
The music and feel of this clip conveys the shock that will really occur when "alien life" goes from being a theory to being a fact
The geiger counter is at the top Captain; let's get closer so we can all get roasted!
Mark H. Now that's funny. Funnier than dogshit in Obama's milkshakes.
Barnes, bring some tools, doesn’t matter what type, just bring ‘em.
RIP Dewey Martin.
I read that Mr. Martin was a fighter pilot in the US Navy during World War II. He served in the Pacific theater.
Mr. Martin is also terrific in Howard Hawks’ “The Big Sky” with Kirk Douglas.
The Original is always the best!🙂
Yeah the remake with Kurt Russell sucked compared to the original 1951 classic. Same with a 1951 classic The Day the Earth Stood Still. Great movie. The remake with Keanu Reeve sucked rubber ducks
@@lorenzomaximo1818 John Carpenter's film is far superior to this in all respects. One of the greatest horror films of all time. Not sorry to tell you. Can't argue that the Days the Earth Stood Still remake sucked though.
indeed sir you can't replace the karizma of the original film in any remake
@@lorenzomaximo1818 The characters in this movie for the most part liked each other, had a camaraderie. The Thing not so much. It was about who was infected until almost everyone was wiped out. Ending in a question mark. . To each his own I guess.
@@Userius1 I disagree with both of you. For its time, this was a fantastic movie and is as fun to watch as when I saw it as a kid. Carpenter's "The Thing" is a classic in its own way and one of my favorite movies. The 2011 prequel was, well let's say it was The Godfather III of the trilogy.
of my best films ever
Mine to.
Seen this when it came out. Scared the hell out of me for years!😊
I recently re-watched 'The Thing' on TCM. It is a scary movie and it is great 1950s sci-fi. But what struck me this time was the dialogue. It is so quick and nimble. The back-and-forth between the characters is really great. They had to work hard on some of the scenes to get the words and timing correct. Movies in the 2020s don't usually have that kind of repartee. Next time, listen to it. It's clever.
What always impressed me about the direction of this film was when there are multiple actors in a shot, they are all perfectly positioned.
Take a look at the cockpit shot when the Geiger Counter starts to flash. Every head its in the right place.
'The Thing' scared the crap out of me when I was young. I always liked it.
Me too. I was sure he was in my closet for months. I would not even breathe more then I had too.
As a kid, _The Thing_ was one of those movies I watched from behind the sofa ...
Best movie I love the idea lets use thermite to melt ice on a space ship what could change human life but oops Blew it up
It was a dumb idea to use any sort of explosive on or near a machine that they know nothing about. For all they knew it could have had a small nuclear core and the blast might have sent them all up in a mushroom cloud.
This movie scared the hell out me. I was only 9
My Favorite film of All Time.
Thomas Tiernan game of thing too
Such snappy dialogue and great creep factor. Classic.
Sappy? my ass...
It's a trait of Howard Hawks movies. Rapid fire dialogue.
@@jeffsmith2022 "Snappy", not "sappy". Unless Rick edited a typo. :)
Watch the skies!!!
This movie the way it was directed needed no special effects, the story line and the way it was told left it all to the audience imagination, it's what makes it a classic!
Of course the Kurt Russell' 1989 remake with a human head walking across the floor with spider legs was pretty epic too. LOL!
Good ole Paul Frees (love his voice).
@Tom Smith I'm your host...your Ghost Host..bwah ah hah
That scene where they try to "figure out the shape of this thing," still works today perhaps because of the music. One thing I noticed, the crewmen operating the flaps (Dewey?) is standing up during the landing. One would think everyone would have to be seated and strapped in "for landing."
They really knew how to fly em in those days Beav!!
The flap controls on the C-47 are on the center console. He never reached forward.
James Arness is an evolved vegetable come from outer space. His flying saucer crashes and becomes frozen in ice. The Thing is retrieved and inadvertently thawed. Havoc ensues until it is killed using electric current. Even in 1951, we were thinking about the directions in which extraterrestrial life might evolve. It is a chilling scene as the men circle the ice-covered saucer to reveal its shape. We are admonished to "Watch the skies!"
Still remember the chills i got from this film. Wouldnt go down in the cellar for a long time and even today dont lije them....
I agree. The new movie doesn't even bring anything to the table. It's a prequel to Carpenter's version (which I find to be a classic in its own right) and has to end where his begins. Now that George Lucas has told the back story for his saga, everyone else has to as well. No new ideas, just franchises.
The music score itself sets the stage.
I love it. Unfortunately, Dimitri Tiomkin would never do a score as progressive as that again. You can get it on iTunes.
This is the best sci-fi movie ever made. Second is The Day the Earth Stood Still. This movie is totally believable along with each of the actors. I play both movies a couple of times a year. Both movies' remakes were two thumbs down!! Never try to improve on perfection.
They're not really trying to improve on the original movie. They're just hoping to cash in on it's popularity.
BWAHAHAHAHA! The Thing (1982) is miles better than this. This movie is still good, but the 1982 movie is in a league all its own.
Very rare to get a couple of movies based on story that are both 10/10
i love these old sifi movies :) plus the sound of the theremin as used in many sifi films :)
DC-3 correct? Pat's aircraft?
At 0:49 you can see the equipment used to scrape the ice towards the right of the frame. The last half of this clip was on a Hollywood back lot.
Im convinced they are actually flying a real plane that's how natural and real the acting was.
4:00 What a classic and iconic scene
Paul Frees!
The acting is smooth and effortless it's as if there just add libbing
So much fun. Love this film!!
The tractor at 0:51 wasn't,t supposed to be in the film
One of my all-time go-to sci-fi favorites!! 😎👍
My love for soundtracks started at an early age. I was a kid who went to the movies every weekend, who stayed up late to watch them on TV and snuck into ones I was too young to see. I wanted to own movies, but there was no home video. The closest thing was buying original soundtracks so that's what I did. My faves are Goldsmith, Tiomkin, Herrmann, and Bernstein.
Memorable movies almost always have great musical scores. Dimitri Tiomkin was one of the best.
The brilliance, apart of course of Rob Bottin's work, in JC's version of TT was the disintegration of trust amongst the personnel. Bill Lancaster (son of of Burt) wrote the script.
The 1951 film was the complete opposite.
Still a great science fiction movie
I first saw this movie in Germany when I was about 7 years old. There was a special feature on German television called "Rain Film". They used to show a movie on rainy afternoons when people couldn't be out and about. That particular movie scared and thrilled me so much that I never forgot it. Back then, researching a movie was pretty difficult so I just had to wait and wait and wait until finally, in 2000, I found it on DVD and bought it immediately. I have watched it ever since for god knows how many times, mostly alone on snowy Friday evenings, with a pizza. I still cherish these moments with myself, my childhood memories, my self made pizza and this movie and I will keep on doing so. I never asked anybody to join. Everybody's welcome, wife, son, anybody, but so far, nobody wanted to. That's fine. More pizza for me and I have don't have to explain why I'm watching an old black and white movie with tears in my eyes...
I have such a great affinity for this film. The dialog is brilliant, pacing is excellent and cinematography is wonderful.
The only area in which this film falls short is in the actual depiction of The Thing itself. It's a true letdown to learn the protagonist that has been carefully sculpted by the director is little more than a guy (James Arness in a early role) in a suit.
Surely even at the time this film was made there were better options than that?
Still, always an enjoyable watch.
How many times does he say Holy cat 😂
An all-time favorite in my family! My older brother first saw this in the movie theater & he said he dropped his hot dog & soda when the dead dog fell out of the cabinet!
"This geiger counter going crazy!"
That would be my queue to go. The 50 were very different when it came to radiation...
If you've never seen this movie it is definitely worth your time to watch. If you can't find a free copy laying around somewhere, it can be purchased on Amazon Prime video.
Saw this when I was 6, and it scared hell out of me!
Likewise.
Not that your opinion really matters.
One of my favorite sci-fi movies
Die Klimaforscher Prof. Phil Jones und Prof. Michael Mann (beide IPCC) haben in ihrer bekannten Hockeyschlägerkurve der Erderwärmung, den Temperaturrückgang seit dem Jahr 2000 mithilfe von Baumringdaten unterschlagen. Als dies in 2009/2010 herauskam, hat sogar Prof. Mojib Latif diese Trickserei eingestanden.
Awesome...! Great Cast, plus Hawks' "phantom direction", plus Tiomkin's spine-thrilling score. A-1.
What Codemann010 said. Such a fantastic sequence, and my complements on your Title selection.
Even though I prefer it, I think this is the one scene where the 1982 version decidedly takes the L. The part here where they form up in a circle with the music swelling deserves to live forever.
The Geiger counter sequences throughout the film are similarly brilliant.
Carpenter actually cameos this scene in his movie. It's on the Norwegian video tape after MacReady and Co. return from their camp.
@@StevenSmyth I don't think he would've omitted that particular easter egg for the world. I saw "The Thing" before "Halloween" and had a good chuckle when "The Thing From Another World" came on the TV in the latter.
I guess that (apart from the obvious matte painting) what brings the crash site scene down a little in the '82 version is that it's... pretty cut-and-dried? They get the last few pieces of the Norwegian puzzle pretty easily and that's about it. Still a solid scene with a similarly terrific score, and retroactively pretty scary to think that Mac was probably just lucky that he didn't go off alone with Palmer and Norris even a few hours later...
I saw all 3 Thing movies the only one that scared me was the original that makes it special but love them all
I love 💘 this ❤ movie
THE THING was filmed in Montana in 1951 [ interiors were filmed in an ice house in LA {}it was suppose to be Greenland my father went to Greenland in 1962 on the same plane he didn't meet The Thing but he met The Abomnible Snow Man .
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The Abdomenable Snowman?
Actually, this scene is unintentionally realistic. The excavation of anything important that is buried -- whether in ice or dirt -- (and I think that humanity's first encounter with an extraterrestrial craft qualifies) requires extraordinarily delicate work by qualified professionals, sometimes involving the use of small, hand-held whisk brooms. Any number of priceless relics have been damaged or destroyed outright throughout history because eager amateurs like the men in this film, acting like children trying to get a prize out of a box of Crackerjack, have used dynamite, picks, axes -- or, as here, thermal bombs -- to hasten the process. (Heinrich Schliemann, the con man who first dug into the ruins of Troy, was a perfect example). After the U. S. invasion of Iraq, scavengers descended on now-abandoned archeological sites and looted them in this fashion; later, when the items they stole emerged on the black market, they often bore the scars of this brutal handling. Although I know that this wasn't the filmmakers' intention, the men's later run-in with "the giant carrot" could be seen as poetic justice for their clumsy botching of an important job.
Oh please. They were racing against time with an approaching storm. And the commander owned up to his missteps later and took full responsibility.
A snow movie 🎥
Radiation? “Pah! Let’s get closer.” Ah, the 50’s: when men were men and nobody could say any different.
I would like a remake of this... keep the spirit, the odd, unsettling music, and keep this same vibe.
It’s probably the first post war sci fi. There optimism is genuine and real. The world is recovering from probably the worst terror ever. Finding optimism from beyond their Little Rock.
thats the thing
I saw this when I was a kid and it scared the pants off me. I couldn't sleep right for days.
👍👍👍 Big THANKS Steven Symth!! On the 1st Ice Scene - I at first thought “.... So THAT’S how SHARKNADO 🤦🏽♂️ came to Earth 🛸!”. But the “THING “ Creature???? Didn’t Scare Me.... I Married his Sister !! 👴🏼NoBody.
I've thanked you for the heads-up, where you suggested I search.
I'll thank you again here. Clearly you are a discerning soundtrack aficionado, and your ear for Tiomkin's ingenuity is mighty fine indeed.
Just an incredible film.., the dialogue, the story, the acting.. top-notch from end-to-end...
Yep, the dialogue is great. Back and forth, quick and witty.
Saw it at night with my mom on tv in the early 60s. Sweetly scary. My mom loved these movies. This scene was filmed in death valley on a 100 degree day. Hey, that's movies!
This is something new at the time this movie was made. But over the years, Scientists and our government seem to know that a secret alien base could be in Antarctica. Strange but true. But this movie in a whole new light? Does it. Hint: The Alien is actor James Arnes!
Our Military is Now releasing photos and video THEY CANT EXPLAIN ? NOW ! 🤔
unfortunately sci-fi writers and movie directors write keeping in mind that they are communicating and can not stray too far from the audience's life experiences. i.e. the "space craft" has a fin although that is useless in the vacuum of space. Or, possibly the director was trying to let us know that the alien designers were inspired by Detroit's 1959 Cadillac Eldorado.
No, the only colorized movies I have seen are the original Night of the Living Dead (ick, colorizing that is a definite mistake) and the original Miracle on 34th Street, again, a mistake.Roger Ebert made a good point once. When a movie is shot in black and white and all the elements come together, it seems MORE real than one shot in color. Color brings its own baggage and can be a distraction in and of itself.
Gone are the days when people didn't speak over one-another and interrupt each other.
Doctor have a look here!
It sure looks big!
Why it's a perfect circle!
Bring some tools over!
That looks round!
Great film they new how to make them shame that to day films are not as good to much blood
such a dramatic opening with such grand scope. The Carpenter version is....small by comparison.
Wow a media guy actually willing to report about a flying saucer? And take it seriously? And investigate?
Awesome!
so cool they used ww2 equipment
When I was 5yrs old, I was born 1949. Lived in phla pa. Snuck in a movie theater , I sat in the front row, this movie scared the life out of me. The best borrow movie I've seen.
Best Movie ever. Can't watch this enough on Tubi☺♥♫☼☼‼‼
We’re gonna try to melt the ice with Thermite Bombs.
Oh Excellent.
...Wait what?
I had the same thought. I mean a find of this importance demands that it be treated like an archeological dig. One doesn't try to use dynamite to get a T-Rex skeleton out of sandstone. They should have suspected that an alien spaceship would have some sort of fuel that might have been ignited by something like thermite. Imagine the sensitive equipment aboard the ship being damaged, or accidentally destroyed, stuff that might have made travel to the stars possible.
The best thing they could have done once they confirmed the location was get back to the base, wait out the snow storm, and then come back with proper tools and equipment for digging in the ice after informing the general of what was found. I think the chances of Soviet spies or anyone else learning of the disturbance getting back to the site first in the storm would be remote.
The best part is that after they destroy the ship with Thermite, they find the creature in the ice. Someone asks how should they get it out, and you hear Scotty faintly in the background say "We could use more Thermite." lol
@@PointyTailofSatan LOL yeah, cause it worked sooooo well before, huh? Loved Scotty's character best.
I believe this IS my opinion. Yours may vary.
I've watched this clip about 37,563 times absolutely luv it.
I love all three Thing movies. I know a lot didn't like the prequel, but I love it.
'We're going to try to melt it out with thermite bombs.' What could possibly go wrong?
John Carpenter’s Halloween (1978) brought me here.
Shoot, wish you could have uploaded the whole thing...I've been looking for the Thing and Ice Station Zebra forever.
I just didn’t want a strike.
@@StevenSmyth I understand, Im just sorry. It's one I hadn't seen.
This is just _The Thing_ ... _The Whole Thing_ is a different movie altogether ...
Movie I know we all want to make some money but why would y'all want to say buy or rent when you can get it free at the library I just don't get it
Yes it the end from pacific pride doing business with county 😊
Musical score is incredible. Really add's to the scene.