Brilliant vintage BR material! I remember as a kid seeing these when they were brand new, they were spectacular! Sad to think they are almost all gone now! Especially since their replacement is so poor in comparison. I hope they can either find work on other routes or work abroad as they are much too good to scrap! 91 010 must be preserved!
@@bfapple You mean aside from the terrble seats, harsh lighting, rough ride quality, intrusive noise levels and serious structural issues after less than 3 years in service, yes, they are "perfectly good" replacements lol
@@soundseeker63 Completely disagree on your first four points they’re a huge step up from the Mk3s. And the IC225s had problems of their own in the 90s…
@@bfapple I've honestly lost count of how many complaints I've seen about how uncomfortable they are! But anyway, you are entitled your own opinion. As I am to mine.
I never understood why they didn't make the leading end of the DVTs identical to the 91s. The angle of the windscreen doesn't match the rest of the nose and the fascia is cluttered with access panels and the horn grille. Couldn't they have used the grille between the lights for the horns? To my eye, the 91 just looks better resolved.
Considering how rough riding the Mk4 coaches were as originally delivered, not sure I’d fancy riding one at 162mph! Later on the improved suspension and rotated bogies made the ride adequate at 125mph but not as good as a Mk3.
162mph..... Wew. It's criminal that they were never allowed to go faster than 125 in service.
Brilliant vintage BR material! I remember as a kid seeing these when they were brand new, they were spectacular! Sad to think they are almost all gone now! Especially since their replacement is so poor in comparison. I hope they can either find work on other routes or work abroad as they are much too good to scrap! 91 010 must be preserved!
Aside from the bogie issues, the IEPs are perfectly good replacements. As for the 91s, they were built to do 30 years, and they did it.
@@bfapple You mean aside from the terrble seats, harsh lighting, rough ride quality, intrusive noise levels and serious structural issues after less than 3 years in service, yes, they are "perfectly good" replacements lol
@@soundseeker63 Completely disagree on your first four points they’re a huge step up from the Mk3s. And the IC225s had problems of their own in the 90s…
@@bfapple I've honestly lost count of how many complaints I've seen about how uncomfortable they are! But anyway, you are entitled your own opinion. As I am to mine.
@@soundseeker63 either way round, the 91s have very much achieved their 30 year design lifespan.
Strange to see my hometown of Huntingdon in this video. The middle bridge was my route to school, 20 years later.
Saw a 225 set working yesterday at Doncaster southbound for London.
Great seeing them at the speed they were intended for rather than the pinned back 125mph they were never able to do due to bureaucracy gone mad.
Great video although the part titled Essendine is in fact Little Bytham
I never understood why they didn't make the leading end of the DVTs identical to the 91s. The angle of the windscreen doesn't match the rest of the nose and the fascia is cluttered with access panels and the horn grille. Couldn't they have used the grille between the lights for the horns? To my eye, the 91 just looks better resolved.
Considering how rough riding the Mk4 coaches were as originally delivered, not sure I’d fancy riding one at 162mph! Later on the improved suspension and rotated bogies made the ride adequate at 125mph but not as good as a Mk3.