Forza Horizon 4: An In-Depth Review

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  • @Whitelight
    @Whitelight  6 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    I know uploads have been sparse, but I've been working on some huge projects. Hopefully one of them will be out by the end of the year, I'm going to bust my ass trying to make that happen. Red Dead Redemption 2 is half scripted, but I can't guarantee any dates. Turf Wars should be out shortly. Thanks for putting up with this.

    • @jayjustjay7871
      @jayjustjay7871 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Whitelight don’t ever compare the city from need for speed 2015 to fh4 they are different due to game mechanics and functionality. Anyways the game now has route creator so and it is always updating, as the developers are in touch with the community(more than any other racing game developers)

    • @sodkumagarasdod
      @sodkumagarasdod 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Umm... you clearly Havent Gone into livery And Customisation . You can make More Money In FH4 If you make Tuning Setups And Liveries . Sure This is An Old Video Given that there Have been Updates And Expansions since Then but you Still Completely Ignored Car Custumisation and Livery Design. I made About 73 million Credits Simply By Designing Cars And Uploading Them On the Creative hub.

    • @worthy7834
      @worthy7834 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I love this game but I absolutely hate the winter season, how is it logical to race fast, in a fast car, in a race w tight turns and snow and ice on the ground, u slip and slide everywhere

  • @DatFatThor
    @DatFatThor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +543

    The seasons arent just visual. Cars slide easier in winter due to the ice and snow. Springs rain makes driving hypercars more challenging due to the constant rain at times. Summer is the perfect driving weather for any car with fall being the only one that's mostly visual

    • @zakiowais6829
      @zakiowais6829 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Are there 3 seasons?
      Edit: There are 4 seasons . My bad.

    • @DatFatThor
      @DatFatThor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@zakiowais6829 I mentioned all 4

    • @ValentineC137
      @ValentineC137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @Keegan Young Rain is kinda slippy, but Snow basically changes some roads from asphalt to gravel, grip wise

    • @JZStudiosonline
      @JZStudiosonline 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The seasons are mostly visual. It still rains in summer, and a lot of races have rain. The only difference is frequency. I guess it's a good thing the races don't matter if you win or lose either, because the AI is 100% not affected by rain leaving you at a massive disadvantage. And winter looks so shit that it's a week out of every month I won't play the game.

    • @ValentineC137
      @ValentineC137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Dawid XCX I think that mostly comes from the random snowy-roads that act like asphalt, and the random asphalt roads that act like snow lmao

  • @SidWaj
    @SidWaj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    White light: this hypes me for what forza have for next year
    Forza: forza street on mobile

  • @ArthurLopes39
    @ArthurLopes39 3 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    26:20 "...putting the game on Steam"
    guess what

    • @haninditohaidarsatrio7393
      @haninditohaidarsatrio7393 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It really happened 😆

    • @yizues8727
      @yizues8727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      3 years later... :'D

    • @ashb7
      @ashb7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@yizues8727 But look on the bright side, seems like Horizon 5 (and every other upcoming MS game) will be on Steam from launch

    • @JZStudiosonline
      @JZStudiosonline 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And it's fucking garbage. Somehow putting the game on a different store platform makes the game have technical issues like stutters, freezing, infinite or longer loads than needed, completely broken wheel support, etc. It's still better to buy it on MS Store, and me being a dipshit, bought it on Steam and tried to fix it before unsuccessfully trying to get a refund with Steams absolute dogshit refund policy.

    • @InsomniacSpartan
      @InsomniacSpartan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JZStudiosonline Steams dogshit refund policy? Uh... What?

  • @chillhour6155
    @chillhour6155 4 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    This games presentation really was next level for a racing game, gave me actual goosebumps and got me excited for playing, something I haven't felt of a racing game for a long time

  • @JZStudiosonline
    @JZStudiosonline 6 ปีที่แล้ว +576

    I still think FH1 had the best sense of progression and "story."
    First things first, the characters weren't all douchebag hipsters.
    You didn't already own a $700,000 supercar, you had a VW.
    You had to race to the festival to be included during a special promo.
    Each race type had a "champion" along with an overall Horizon Champion that you actually worked towards racing.
    Beating champions and showcase events won you the car. I had a good selection of cars by the end just from winning races and playing the game, buying very few.
    The difficulty actually increased as you rose up the ranks.
    The final race was FAR more memorable than in anything any of the later games had.
    The Champions all interacted with you, usually shit talking, but it's still something.
    FH2 immediately went to "Here, you get a supercar and run the festival." But you're just a random guy... why are you running the festival? And sure, there was 6 locations or whatever, but there was only so many tracks in each location that it got extremely repetitive.

    • @Whitelight
      @Whitelight  6 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      You run the festival in FH2?

    • @JZStudiosonline
      @JZStudiosonline 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@Whitelight Didn't you play it? It started off with "We're going to let you pick the next locations and races." I didn't really play 3, but it seems like it just added to that with "blueprints."

    • @Whitelight
      @Whitelight  6 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      @@JZStudiosonline Wow I thought all of that was introduced in 3.

    • @JZStudiosonline
      @JZStudiosonline 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @Leo Enduro I really think that FH1 had the best driving roads. I haven't tried 4 yet, but the roads in 1 were just fun as hell to drive on. FH2 was very wide-open with not really a lot of elevation change, banks, or curves. Not like FH1 anyways. The road along the coast was okay, but still nothing compared to the mountain road in FH1 that really nailed the feeling of going up a mountain.

    • @NeXMaX
      @NeXMaX 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Horizon 1 absolutely nailed it down with the progression and even the story
      Hell, you actually had a reason why you wanted to be the Horizon Champion. That damn guy by the name of Darius Flynt

  • @CodecrafterArtemis
    @CodecrafterArtemis ปีที่แล้ว +36

    The final point about innovation really resonated with me. Especially since I looked at Horizon 5 trailers and thought "yeah cool, but FH 4 is discounted so I'd just rather buy that".

    • @AverageAlien
      @AverageAlien ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I bought 4 because UK is more interesting than Mehico

    • @greenville_accountt
      @greenville_accountt ปีที่แล้ว

      wait fh4 is discounted????

    • @greenville_accountt
      @greenville_accountt ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i made a bad finacial mistake

    • @swilleh_
      @swilleh_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@greenville_accounttonline is still on and will be for years. No new updates though.

    • @Wassup1005
      @Wassup1005 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was 6$ ​@@greenville_accountt

  • @kartikkaushik9811
    @kartikkaushik9811 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great video as always, just a couple things to note that were incorrect in the video:
    1. The seasons are not just visual, they affect the grip offered by roads in different areas during different seasons.
    2. While road and street racing are similar, there are a few differences besides the time of day. One is that many of the barriers in road racing would be missing in street racing so not breaking early enough is punished harder, also there is street traffic in street racing. None in road racing

    • @janosd4nuke
      @janosd4nuke ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yyup and also street scene is "anything goes" where it puts in every type of car in your Performance Index ballpark. While road race defaults to specific type you enter (hot hatch/ retro sports car/ hyper car / modern rally or whatever)

  • @theninjaassassin4468
    @theninjaassassin4468 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Top notch review through and through. It was a joy to watch and listen to this.

  • @craigkingdon4424
    @craigkingdon4424 6 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    I wonder if horizon 5 will even be a thing. Playground games are working on an un announced RPG (possibly fable) so who knows when 5 comes out.

    • @zannrebel1217
      @zannrebel1217 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      They have 2 teams now both working on each

    • @Elias_g1
      @Elias_g1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They first need to fix this game.It has been out for 2 months and there are still big problems.

    • @imo098765
      @imo098765 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We normally get a Forza Motorsport from Turn10 that does the initial work on the game engine, so it seems like FH5 is 2021 or 2022 the way it stands now

    • @rylanprime6176
      @rylanprime6176 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      As an og Forza fan, this game is just, OKAY. Every other Forza horizon is miles better tho.

    • @buncentb6139
      @buncentb6139 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yep it is, they just announced 5 let’s goooo

  • @lamelukas
    @lamelukas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I honestly wish there was something like a "Forza Horizon: Underground" or "Forza Underground" type game where it's focused more on street races and what not. Maybe instead of focusing on a ridiculous number of cars they could instead focus on a smaller amount but have more customization such as exterior mods. I feel like Forza really needs to do something new and interesting to focus on other than just the festival, maybe it could go something like you sneak your way in through a street racing group to get into the festival or whatever so the focus isn't just on the festival but also on the street racing scene.

    • @lilchad-ig1oj
      @lilchad-ig1oj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      lamelukas thats called Need For Speed

    • @obiwaankenobi4460
      @obiwaankenobi4460 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Forza Motorsport?

    • @djSladan
      @djSladan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@lilchad-ig1oj but NFS is shit nowdays

    • @poodn4559
      @poodn4559 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What you just described is The Crew. It certainly isn't the best game in the world, but as a proof-of-concept for most of what you just said you wanted, it's perfect

  • @faf_nir
    @faf_nir 6 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    34k subs ? Man you deserve so much more , you're the best keep it up ;)

    • @stickkey
      @stickkey 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Few subs -> people whine he deserves more subs -> gets more subs -> sellout -> people leave and find another youtuber -> few subs -> people whine....

    • @faf_nir
      @faf_nir 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@stickkey the only one whining right now is you...

    • @brup123
      @brup123 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Considering he only started a year ago and has only around 28 videos uploaded, he's doing AMAZINGLY well to have 35k subs. Most new TH-camrs these days don't get that kind of sub momentum until a few years and many more video submissions. I think the fact that he's gained this many subs in such a short amount of time/videos shows that his stuff is very high quality. Given that it's only 28 videos in one year, I'd say he has a full-time job or is studying. I'd recommend the guy to take some time off just to make youtube videos and see how it goes, because if he dedicated all of his time to make videos there's a decent chance he could increase sub count even faster and make it big.

    • @Azazreal
      @Azazreal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Seeing the difference in a year is awesome. From 34k to 159k current. Man has smashed it

    • @sardiv1
      @sardiv1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He now has 215K

  • @vdayucla
    @vdayucla 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    At 24:35, "'Need for Speed' has a list of issues even Lindsay Lohan couldn't match." :-p

  • @mandez3498
    @mandez3498 6 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    "Doesn't need to rely on rubberbanding"
    Sorry but gonna have to disagree with you there, playing on Unbeatable/Pro, not getting to the front of the pack ASAP means the leader just walks away and you'll have to settle with a podium. And if you do get in front, the AI just end up on your ass immediately, regardless if their previous pace.

    • @ravirajyaguru5905
      @ravirajyaguru5905 5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      This.
      The AI cars in unbeatable and pro levels are impossibly fast. Like when you are blasting on highway at 300+ kph in a Pagani, and suddenly a bloody Focus overtakes you!

    • @wolfboy20
      @wolfboy20 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The rubberbanding at these difficulties was annoying as fuck!!!

    • @locoboy6931
      @locoboy6931 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You can't beat the AI on unbeatable? How old r u?

    • @cpurchase7237
      @cpurchase7237 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I generally find pro is optimal. Unbeatable is just annoying because of rubberbanding, and expert is too easy. Pro is just in the middle, so it's best in my opinion

    • @WralthChardiceVideo
      @WralthChardiceVideo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      There is no rubberbanding in the game lol. The only problem with unbeatable is that 10 out of the 11 AI racers are vegetables and then theres the guy in front who actually drives relatively competently. Add to that the fact that youre always starting in the back and yeah i can see how races with too many tight roads can be annoying to get past the pack but realistically the cars arent faster than they should be given the appropiate tuning.

  • @oktschill8928
    @oktschill8928 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That cheeky use of DriveClub OST at 6:30 , it's pretty good!

  • @Quoth_
    @Quoth_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Who need to study for finals when Whitelight uploads a new vid?

    • @GhostIsAYandere
      @GhostIsAYandere 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im listening to this while i work on 5 assignments

  • @Olie_d94
    @Olie_d94 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’ve been searching for reviews. I saw plenty of positive reviews with not enough critical analysis (all of their critiques were all the same as well) and I just wasn’t sold on the idea that it was THAT good with little to no areas in need of improvement.. I very much enjoyed this video. You definitely did a great job picking this game apart and explaining that it’s got a lot of issues and plenty of room for improvement. You made points about the game that other reviews didn’t even bother mentioning and you definitely focused on what may make-or-break the experience for some. I feel like I’ve got a better understanding of what I might be getting into if I shell out the money for this game. Thank you.

  • @Deiikyss
    @Deiikyss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is honestly one of the best reviews on a game I have ever witnessed

  • @milkteawithoutbubbles
    @milkteawithoutbubbles 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The James Bond seasonal events, if you play online and don’t have the car pack, you could pick any cars. Had to race an old Vantage from the movie living daylights against huracan and some other fast stuff...

  • @jaws013
    @jaws013 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    4 is way more fun than 5. I put hundreds of hrs in 4. 5 had me bored by the time i beat it.

  • @ianmccallum5690
    @ianmccallum5690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Winter completely changes how you drive if you have assists off.

  • @vaulthunterfromterra4053
    @vaulthunterfromterra4053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would like it if they had actual performance progression, like forcing everyone to start in a D100 level car and you’d have to unlock your upgrades before buying them. The upgrades could be either tied to the player’s level or progress in the story as to not be too tedious, but still have actual progress. And you’d also unlock each class of car (D, C, B, A, S, R, P, and X) as you progress.
    For Rivals, it would be much more enjoyable and fair to have it be set up by car instead of by class or type. You wouldn’t have to deal with 1 or 2 cars decimating the leaderboards if every car will only ever be competing against itself.

  • @dragoxk4542
    @dragoxk4542 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mad grand tour vibes with come with me now music playing in the background

  • @TheRumbaRo
    @TheRumbaRo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really great stuff, keep it up, my man. People like you are the reason i still open youtube

  • @greymooses
    @greymooses ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your content, omg. This level of breaking down everything is something I would think should be on a Masterclass. o.e

  • @theDiReW0lf
    @theDiReW0lf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Great review of the offline game, but that's just part of it. The multiplayer is a complete disaster. Forced team adventure and freeroam rush, regardless of the car class, is KILLING any longevity this game might've had. You can personally finish 1st every race and lose/rank down. It's abysmal. And that's not even mentioning the checkpoint rammers and how incredibly long it takes just to find a game.
    The base game was cool for the week or so it lasted but online is what keeps me coming back. I don't feel like collecting 500+ cars and tuning them for a half-assed, nonsensical online mode. That's the biggest issue with the game.

    • @NeXMaX
      @NeXMaX 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Forced teams, Freeroam Rush, rank being determined by team performance rather than individual performance, etc.
      I had more engaging moments in the PvP mode of The Crew 2 (which incidentally, did ranked PvP better)

    • @MNightbirb
      @MNightbirb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Back in 2019 when they put the Apollo car in the multi-player event, people were pushing each other off the road because for "the trolls" and I got pissed real badly
      Multi-player Events in FH4 is so bad man, too much toxic players but hey...thats expected in the gaming world

    • @theDiReW0lf
      @theDiReW0lf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MNightbirb Lol I remember. The pvp is definitely better now than it was at launch, but being forced to engine/drivetrain swap every car to be competitive is what killed the game for me.

    • @bestofjgaming2270
      @bestofjgaming2270 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theDiReW0lf Even in forza 2 it is about who has the fastest car that can have the best tunes

  • @Toastzz
    @Toastzz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +221

    multiplayer is literally the worst part of horizon 4

    • @TreXXen
      @TreXXen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not now

    • @cristianmihai4182
      @cristianmihai4182 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I completely agree. If you're not playing with a group, you shouldn't play at all

    • @TreXXen
      @TreXXen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Cristian Mihai um wrong

    • @cristianmihai4182
      @cristianmihai4182 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TreXXen Depends on your experience. Me and many others have had bad experiences, so we believe that. Oh, if it matters, I hate playing agains AWD V8 swaps and the same 3 cars over and over

    • @haaxxx9
      @haaxxx9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Trust me, Played over 300+ hours in FH3 with a G29 and I can say FUCK PUBLIC ONLINE RACING!

  • @Jan_von_Gratschoff
    @Jan_von_Gratschoff 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    There are roadworks in the map, they're seasonal though.

  • @unkownfigure850
    @unkownfigure850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You forgot to mention that it’s a pain in the ass to drive during the winter and even more annoying in the spring rain. Also that it’s impossible to keep up with Ai in street dirt and off road races .

  • @Granhier
    @Granhier 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Arguably people buy the Deluxe because of the included season pass, the rest is just bonus

  • @williamsmiler184
    @williamsmiler184 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have to say that this was an amazing, informative and accurate review. Subscribed.

  • @fatfard
    @fatfard 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Will you ever do a NFS MW 2005 review? I'd really like to see that. And BTW, nice review!

    • @Pwnarbullen
      @Pwnarbullen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Check out Raycevicks review of it, he has a similar style to Whitelight!

    • @fatfard
      @fatfard 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Pwnarbullen I have, I just want more content to watch

    • @m4rcin847
      @m4rcin847 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      NFS MW 2005 6/10, best of Black Box mediocre racing games

    • @fatfard
      @fatfard 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@m4rcin847 mediocre? Most of them are great!

    • @Pwnarbullen
      @Pwnarbullen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@fatfard you and me both

  • @Bloodhoven
    @Bloodhoven 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    08:42
    actually... this is also true for horizon 2 and 3. In Horizon 2 the radio just didn't switch to the of the song, so... I found that one out by accident, when I noticed that on every showcase there is one certain radiostation which always plays the same song^^

  • @KAKOLOOKIYA
    @KAKOLOOKIYA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    26:16 Finally they did put it one steam, after 2 years of this video.

  • @SidWaj
    @SidWaj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:40 and that whole 'stuff missing from the UK' bit is soooooo true, it had me dying 🤣🤣

    • @ryanwalker1982
      @ryanwalker1982 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was looking for a comment referring to this xD

  • @Vortex95
    @Vortex95 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    u deserve much more subs and views than u currently have. Keep make vds. I love them!!

  • @NeXMaX
    @NeXMaX 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh yeah, White. There’s 2 other differences between Street Scene and Road Racing
    - Traffic is present
    - There are no walls, so you can’t wallride

  • @rocketpunchgo1
    @rocketpunchgo1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Still playing this almost daily April 2021. All of his negatives were swiftly dealt with, even the Windows version (which I have exclusively been playing). Would like to see a 5-minute follow-up review!

  • @poopsicle1654
    @poopsicle1654 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This game is sooo greatttt. It’s just upsetting that many others, myself included, cannot access its Multiplayer aspect ):

  • @ivanaradonjic2527
    @ivanaradonjic2527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I haven't seen anybody mention Kongos' Come With Me Now in the background, ya know the song from The Grand Tour..

  • @Hostefar
    @Hostefar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It took me longer to finish the tutorial than it did to get the best car in the game

  • @speedenforcer918
    @speedenforcer918 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Took me a while to notice, but the original Forza music playing during this video makes for a nice callback.

    • @Whitelight
      @Whitelight  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, Junkie XL did a fantastic job. It's amazing to listen to, and fits pretty much anything.

  • @brendanforde5078
    @brendanforde5078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a great review and really made me decide on getting the game but the moment you said there's no Gregg's I was laughing and as an ex street racer here in UK nothing would make it more British than seeing Gregg's and seeing racers pit stop at Greg's to get a sasuage roll and get back in their car 😂

  • @domscards
    @domscards 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I played FH3 for a year. I stopped playing FH4 after completing all the races. That tells you all you need to know. The online sucks because of freeroam rush, no championships, no reason to even come in first place in races, and much much more. It's not bad, but it's not "play every day" good like they wanted it to be.

    • @DV-ou1yu
      @DV-ou1yu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You didn't need to be first in FH3 either lol

  • @toastywhiteboy7822
    @toastywhiteboy7822 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You don’t know how many times I’ve gotten common cars and legendary clothes and horns, horns and clothes are nice, but not more legendary than a 918. I wish the wheel spins are only limited to credits and cars.

    • @fllnthblnks9681
      @fllnthblnks9681 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, it’s the most frustrating thing in the game getting a super wheelspin and only getting horns and clothes that I’ll never use.

  • @robinthebobin6537
    @robinthebobin6537 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Tbf the fact that a game this good is considered a blip compared to the other FH games says something about how consistently great this series is.
    Shame there's no roadmen though 😪

  • @kittyrules
    @kittyrules 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yay the Best youtuber has a new Video

  • @johnp8830
    @johnp8830 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I couldn’t get into FH5 after experiencing so much fun in 4. Maybe 5 will catch up for me in the near future

  • @SicSemperBeats
    @SicSemperBeats 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I love fh4 but man I was hoping for something more "new" and added. Like the seasons are sweet but after that I look like what else has changed form fh4? the map was sweet, but I was hoping for more customization compared to past games, they're kinda stagnating in car customization. And the races are low-key bad, like why do the other racers have the same level as me, it makes it impossible to predict the speed/handling of their car when it has random and non described mods on it. And the AI does impossible maneuvers in corners that it pretty much rubber banding. This is probably the only game where I prefer to race with people because the AI isnt simulated on a car level, theyre simulated on a track level meaning they practically go around the track with no regard to their car's physics...play dirt races and cross country races on unbeatable to see what im talking about. I will say the sense of speed is amazing, probably the best in any open world game. Like whitelight said, its amazing when you first boot it up, but after the spectacle, and if you've been playing past forzas you may not be "blown out your seat".

    • @Elias_g1
      @Elias_g1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mostly agree with you.Great comment !

    • @NeXMaX
      @NeXMaX 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The problem with Horizon is that it feels *very* similar. And I don’t mean the overall theme. It just feels exceedingly similar in many areas.
      I appreciate many of the changes and stuff they’ve done, but they shouldn’t be afraid to try something a little more radical besides the seasonal change. At the same time, let’s not change it to the point where the game suffers.
      Like the multiplayer. It’s totally fine to be conservative but being too conservative isn’t exactly a good thing, and the same goes for being too progressive

  • @alexwingo8094
    @alexwingo8094 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How dare you accuse the radio DJs of being bad. Don Thompson is great! Also that’s the only channel I ever listened to so I’m sure you’re right.

  • @hemangchauhan2864
    @hemangchauhan2864 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm amazed that given how much racing genre audiences are sorta dwindling that we still get high quality racing games like this.
    On your critique, what other racing games with good progression or at least not botched?

    • @Whitelight
      @Whitelight  6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      From what I played of NFS 2010, that game nailed it.

  • @daymi7300
    @daymi7300 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    you're a really good reviewer

  • @trombulan
    @trombulan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    13:40 - 💯 agreed!
    As I wanted some specific cars and Fortune Island expansion, I bought the ultimate edition and after a couple of events, I got "VIP membership" and other DLC's unchecked from the Steam menu because I started to feel the lack of progression and reward. They should'v leave all those extra DLC cars available to buy with credits just like all other cars and not throw them at players like it's nothing.
    Wheel spin is half the trouble but Superwheelspins are the most ridiculously idiotic and massive spoiler of progress/reward factor!
    Thank you for this review!
    (Subscribed)

  • @Moonsbro
    @Moonsbro 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    whenever i play this game i always mute the music and just put on a eurobeat playlist on youtube

  • @BrevDawg13
    @BrevDawg13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved when I got 200 free super wheel spins and have never needed to worry about credits since. Truly an epic Forza Horizon 4 experience.

  • @thewidowmaker4037
    @thewidowmaker4037 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha awesome Trolling with the Driveclub music at 23:50

  • @therealpatriot_9685
    @therealpatriot_9685 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this aged well regarding forza horizon 5

  • @emilbror
    @emilbror 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your content! I really enjoy long and informative videos! Happy thoughts ;)

  • @10talmaq
    @10talmaq 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Only real wastemen can appreciate 7:53 😂

    • @chedplug106
      @chedplug106 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      you are bare wastemans yeah

    • @SuperNinjasoccer
      @SuperNinjasoccer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol read this at the exact time

  • @khangaskhan1919
    @khangaskhan1919 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Now THAT is a proper review. Up there with Tim Rogers good! Subbed.

    • @Whitelight
      @Whitelight  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The tim rogers one got me high and I've never even drugged before.

  • @andreinistor7092
    @andreinistor7092 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    actually at 15:40 another difference between street races and road races is that in a street race there are other pedestrian cars while in a road race is just you and the other racers

  • @kingargon
    @kingargon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There’s another way to get credits. The auction house. It’s like a stock market picking which cars are going to go up or down. I’ve lost 19 million on a single car in a week. I’ve gained millions on a single car in a week. It’s unpredictable. It’s also a lottery, just higher stakes.

    • @omegaisnownewagain
      @omegaisnownewagain 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      did that already exist when this video was released?

  • @GhostIsAYandere
    @GhostIsAYandere 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    14:36 the reason i bought horizon 4

  • @Starfire_Storm
    @Starfire_Storm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you just used the FM1 soundtrack as background music?! I, I think I love you man

    • @Whitelight
      @Whitelight  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love FM1 and it's OST

    • @Starfire_Storm
      @Starfire_Storm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Whitelight I fully agree, the OST in FM1 is personally one of the best of any videogame and the game itself Is by far the most underrated Forza game, shame a lot of people never played it because they had PS2's instead of an Xbox

  • @CleridwenFR
    @CleridwenFR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really great review!
    You talked a bit about the differences between the standard and more expensive versions. I got the ultimate version 4 months ago, which was in sale for the price of the standard one. Problem is, I started with a huge amount of cars from the DLC and th€ "car pass”, and also 40 free super wheelspins. After spinning them all, I had a hundred of cars, 5 millions credits, and I had not played a single race. This was my first real racing game, and I was already lost with learning the handling (and unlearning some other game's handling like TrackMania), the upgrade system, the tubing system, that after doing the first 4 seasons, I was really like "wtf do I do". So many cars, so much money, I could basically buy any car, any upgrade, anything, and because of the stories being hidden on the map, as you mentioned, I just didn't know where to go. As much as I love this game today, I don't know if I'll still be playing it if it didn't cost 50€.
    Fortunately, I found my way through the stories, and TH-cam is just filled with tuning tutorials, the forums with car recommendations, Reddit with suggestions of things to do, and the feature find groups of players playing right now and join them in voice chat on Windows 10 and Xbox is a great way to meet other players and just drive around for fun.
    TL;DR : The ultimate edition gave me way too much money and cars at the beginning of the game that I was completely lost and almost stopped playing.

    • @omegaisnownewagain
      @omegaisnownewagain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      then I did perhaps the right thing buying the standard edition :)

    • @CleridwenFR
      @CleridwenFR 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@omegaisnownewagain probably :p
      You'll have a better starting experience imo. And you can still get any of the DLCs later anyway.

  • @propanebruh7444
    @propanebruh7444 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Re review of nfs 2015 when (insert anime moth pointing a gun at the viewer)

  • @Piizzachuu
    @Piizzachuu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    1:40 “Once you’ve picked your prick” 😂

  • @syvar1886
    @syvar1886 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this is a kinda old video but I have to say this because no one else did apparently. I disagree with you on the subject of credits and cost of faster cars. You make it seem damn near impossible to get the most expensive cars and that it's all luck based but personally the most profitable thing for me to do is publish tunes/paintjobs and reselling cars on the auction house. That way it actually makes me feel that I should have every car for free, I have so much money in game anyway. Anyway, great vid, keep 'em coming!

  • @thex2thaz
    @thex2thaz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played NFSMW 2005 until 2018 simply because there weren’t any other better racing games that interested me. So imagine my shock when I played FH4. 😮

    • @janosd4nuke
      @janosd4nuke ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you elaborate? Shock can be positive and negative as well.
      I just got into Forza and have a very mixed attitude towards in.

  • @parsa5290
    @parsa5290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video needs a remaster for FH5

  • @angelserrano9049
    @angelserrano9049 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To my taste....Fh5 should use the same formula and aspects of Forza horizon 1 and 2 like LEVEL PROGRESSION with a fair grind (I wanna use the slower cars first then work my way up) and NO EMOTES WHATSOEVER. Just a huge amount of character types and outfits separated from the wheelspins is fine. Also championship tournaments and events of specific vehicle types and specific classes with restrictions that don't allow cars with engine swaps to prevent the races from being redundant. So pretty much like 1 and 2 with updated visuals and customization👍👍

  • @joelisvysniauskas4653
    @joelisvysniauskas4653 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the difference between street and road is that road has barriers and only includes cars from the same car type while street is without borders and matches you with any car from your class.
    edit: oh! and traffic

  • @ajojoreference2307
    @ajojoreference2307 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't like racing but I love Whitelight.

  • @JensenP12
    @JensenP12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:40 I beg to differ... Burnout Paradise's map is the most memorable

  • @TheYourGod666
    @TheYourGod666 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good content! Always excited to see new videos.

  • @benn87
    @benn87 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ha. The wheelspin thing has only got worse in Horizon 5. Unfortunately...

  • @Delzra
    @Delzra 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    To be honest, ive also played Horizon 3, i really liked it, then i saw the Trailers of Horizon 4 and pre-ordered the ultimate edition. Which hasnt affected the way i play the game, because i believe this is my favorite game of all. Also, i had the normal edition of Horizon 3 and i hated having to buy the DLC for 20€ EACH.

  • @juderogers1405
    @juderogers1405 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    15:30 street races have pedestrian vehicles that can mess up your entire line, road races don’t

  • @DannyK1992
    @DannyK1992 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's where he referenced British teens listening to Stormzy in their Vauxhall Corsa?
    2:54 there it is

  • @tomboterkoek8054
    @tomboterkoek8054 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Never played an forza horizon game and it looks absolutely amazing.
    But one thing that always threw me off was the almost absent traffic and the emptiness of the world.
    It feels like driving around is the only thing you can do and there are no pesestrians.
    The world is stunning but it also feels empty imo.

    • @unkownfigure850
      @unkownfigure850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It would be annoying as shit trying to race while there’s traffic everywhere

    • @tomboterkoek8054
      @tomboterkoek8054 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@unkownfigure850 its boring also when there is no life

  • @forzaflash
    @forzaflash 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Review! I agree with everything you say. And hope they fix it soon! Especially for Forzathon, it's waaay to boring. I think I have more fun meeting other drivers, car meet style and just chilling than doing the same thing over and over again.

  • @Meowblivion
    @Meowblivion 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    it'll probably take a 1000 years but can you review Yakuza Kiwami 2?
    even though it's a couple months old

  • @Scottoest
    @Scottoest 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe I'm an edge case, but I had absolutely no problem with the rewards structure of the game. By the time I had finished everything there was to do, my garage had about 200 cars in it, of which I paid credits for probably 5, I owned every player home except the castles, and I still had a few million credits handy. Most of those credits absolutely came from wheelspins, but even the chance factor of those kinda ceases to be an issue due to how many wheelspins the game throws at you. You get wheelspins for leveling up overall. You get wheelspins (and super wheelspins)for leveling up specific disciplines. You get wheelspins for spending skill points. Even the preponderance of "meh" cosmetic stuff on the wheel didn't bother me that much, because you just get so many of them.
    As for Forzathon Live - the enjoyment I get from those, is meeting in one place with a ton of other people in the server, and just messing around, which seems to be the ultimate purpose. The actual events themselves are kinda secondary. You hoon around and show off your cars to one another, then bang out the events in a few minutes, then go about whatever you were doing before. It's low impact and silly. They could be better, and I hope they do get improved with feedback, but at the same time - it's been a couple months now, and I still do them several times a week without complaint.

  • @DavyJonesSimRacing
    @DavyJonesSimRacing 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    they'll never put it on Steam, afraid of piracy I guess and with the Store exclusive to Windows 10 they want some marquee titles to aid adoption etc... although Phil Spencer has stated he's open to the idea of MS games on Steam. Agree on the point though and overall an excellent and in-depth review, amazing!!

  • @007Spadge
    @007Spadge ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The festival setting worked in Horizon 1 because it was 2012 and that sort of stuff was in. Tommorowland and what not. It was the height of Drum & Bass, Dubstep and it's very much a time capsule.
    Now the only people left that go to electronic music festivals are all addicted to hard drugs.
    They should have ditched the festival concept years ago. Actually, Forza Horizon 2 should have been more of a grown up, gentleman's driver kind of game, given the location.

  • @ParotrickIa
    @ParotrickIa ปีที่แล้ว

    11:55 So no one's gonna talk about the dude rocking a shiny sparkly tight gold skirt and wellies?

    • @janosd4nuke
      @janosd4nuke ปีที่แล้ว

      "It's either Elton John or John Doe." Or something along those lines. IMO Whitelight just equipped everything the wheelspins dropped to emphasize the amount of random tacky BS. Also shitz n giggles is definitely high in this one.

  • @IKKAIWINS
    @IKKAIWINS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just want horizon in japan. It's all i need.

    • @HKSFangirl
      @HKSFangirl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We're getting Mexico

  • @Graham567
    @Graham567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After 1 year: Yeah, winter still sucks major ass.

  • @gbmxii
    @gbmxii 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching this in 2021 I got the Ultimate edition on Steam for roughly 1400 Indian rupees which is not even $19. Compared to the last 3 NFS titles, still a better deal. Amazing game too.

  • @KinoKonformist
    @KinoKonformist 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Forza have one problem (or advance) why it not released on Steam. This game have common Eco-system with Xbox Live. So even on PC you play with Xbox players through Xbox for Windows. Releasing this game at Steam will be complicated because of it. I think it's the only reason why multiplayer games from MicroSoft not on Steam yet.

  • @MrErtwer
    @MrErtwer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    04:25 Where are you driving?

  • @meetpalsingh2933
    @meetpalsingh2933 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    *The largest map*
    Crew2:Am I a joke to you

  • @sorryshiina6264
    @sorryshiina6264 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanted to like this game so bad but the borked progression and lack of structure really hurt my motivation to play.
    It was my first Forza game and I had heard nothing but good things about it. But within a few days of playing I had lucked out on wheel spins, gotten way too much money and bought my favourite hyper car with millions of credits left over. Basically left me thinking "well, shit what now?"

  • @piggosalternateaccount4917
    @piggosalternateaccount4917 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seeing how far you've come from your early uploads, i'm confident that you've now set your foundation for making videos in concrete rather than mud and sticks.
    As in, very good stuff, please keep on going

  • @anotherstorm2061
    @anotherstorm2061 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really liked the characters from the first horizon.

  • @spencerkrey8307
    @spencerkrey8307 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yea I paid for the legendary edition and regret it because it gave me no reason to use most of my billion cars I got off the bat

  • @williamraybould
    @williamraybould 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The game is only set in Scotland not England and Wales as well

  • @omegaisnownewagain
    @omegaisnownewagain 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I however do not see the progress level as negative as you do. It ain't perfect, but many games have been way too easy on that, so I appreciate it. It just helped me to get better and refusing to waste my money on crappy cars

  • @teedee9393
    @teedee9393 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:30 * Cries in Northern Irish *

  • @beSoGaming
    @beSoGaming 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is an excellent game and I love it. I didn't agree with some of the negative things you had to say but good video.