So happy to see back! Treat it as a warning and change what you need to. I hope Flaviana is OK, it was shock to us a strangers, so I can only imagine what she is going through.
Great to see you back on screen. I've been with Octopus for over 18 months and on agile for the last 4 months, it's really good at saving me money & caring for the environment
Just switched to Octopus and used the referral link on the video. Always watch your videos and thank you for all the amazing information your provide people. Just picked up my ID.3 last week and I love it. You nearly had me in an E-Niro before I managed to find an ID.3 that someone had cancelled.
Hi Andrew, glad to see your back making videos. We just got our e-Niro and I was about to move to Octopus when we found out we were eligible for 5k free miles through edf when we moved to their go electric tariff & leased the car from DriveElectric. We are now on cheaper electric in the house & free electric for the car 😀 I will look at Octopus again next year, so thanks for the video & look after yourself, cheers Tony
Hi Andrew, glad your back on your feet love your updates and please take care of yourself. On the positive note for me I’ve now got my eNiro after 13 months wait.
I’m also with Octopus but I’m on their GO tariff. The reason is we have solar panels and a Powerwall as well as a Kona. We’ve found the GO tariff best as we only draw power at night between the hours o 00-30 & 04-30. At 5 p per kWh including VAT. with the Powerwall even in the winter we still only draw power at those times and in the summer draw nothing as the solar panels supply all our needs cooking, hot water, and 🚙
Colin Munro Hi Colin, what size is the power wall, what make is it and who installed it for you. We also have solar panels and now I’m looking to do the same as you.
With my solar panels I installed a SMA Smart meter in my house. Have a python script to collect data from the device and visualize on a Thingsboard dashboard. And yes - it is fun everyday to see solar production and energy consumation on my dashoards.
Hope you are better. I have the same meter as you, the Landis&Gyr E470 and to get the correct readings (I am Economy Seven 01.00 to 08.00) you have to read the meter, for the Economy 7 time, between the hours of 01.00-08.00. Octopus couldn’t tell me that. The main reading you can get anytime out of these hours. Thanks for the info. I have just emailed Octopus to see if I am on the best tariff because my day rate is 16.6p and the night rate is 9.65p and standing charge of 20.05p. p.s pick up my E Niro on Friday 31st. Can’t wait.
I have to admin, going Agile was the best thing I've done - it halved my power bill overnight - all I changed was to make sure that we didn't use the dishwasher/washer/dryer in peak hours. BTW, don't forget that as shown, all times are GMT (they don't change their apps to cope with summer time). Glad you're better after your TIA.
Didn't know about your stroke, so all the best...looking well anyway. We were with Bulb, but began to feel that their packages favoured gas/electric and gas-only users. We had installed solar panels and a Powerwall a couple of years ago, and took a gamble on future smart energy innovations, ripping out the oil burner and going 100% electric. We're now also with Octopus, and when the smart meter is installed next month, will be trialing yet another energy package, which is ostensibly what we were hoping would materialise, and are very excited about it...the cost of going pure electric is frightening, and we're hoping this will bring energy costs back to the realms of 'normality'. ;) I'll report back with details when we experience it in action.
Hi Andy, glad to see you’re back, best wishes to you...Alex moved into a flat that has storage heaters and he’s going to use Octopus Go so he can charge up during the winter at 5p, he’s wondering if the Agile tariff might go up and down with wholesale prices and end up with peaks nullifying the troughs so to speak
Thanks Geoff! I think Go would be better for Alex as it’s consistent, which is better for storage heaters really. Good point about the Agile tariff going up and down. It may be better for electric car drivers who can take advantage of the electricity being cheaper during the night, which will always be the case - whatever the average wholesale price.
Andrew Till / Mr. EV Hi Andy, had an electrician here today as I’m looking into the feasibility of fitting a Powerwall here at Newitt (block of 36 luxury apartments), largely to take advantage of 5p per kWh overnight and reduce communal energy costs (currently £5pa). Reckon I can reduce consumption costs by two thirds with power to spare and recover capital costs over three years...going to be a useful test
Really good to see you feeling better, I had several TIAs but ok now, keep taking the tablets, I was with Bulb , couldn’t get a smart meter, they didn’t want to know about EV tariffs so have joined Octopus, now waiting for new meter.
I use Octopus Agile in conjunction with the EV.energy app. Even with a non smart wall charger I can take full advantage of any price plunge and restrict my tariff to below 0p and effectively smart charge my EV. We also cook before 16.00hrs daily to avoid the high tariff period between 16.00 & 19.00hrs. Works really well.
@@MrEV hi. Excellent video. I've just applied and used your referral link. Octopus said should get our reward on the 15/9. Cheers. I asked to use the link one day after I am joined and octopus applied it no problem.
Octopus has been pretty good so far for us. We have solar panels with a battery and we can force charge our battery at a cheap rate if the day is too cloudy to charge it from the Solar. We also get credit paid to our account for any energy our battery exports
Nice to see you are OK and still "up and at 'em". If you are like my dad, you may well recover everything after a few months. I'll keep some things crossed for you.
The in house monitor unfortunately does not display the Go tariff either, it try’s but never makes it. The energy usage shown is correct just not the off peak rate. The smart meter itself records peak, off peak and solar export as well if you have panels. Just press the metre button to scroll through the readings. 👍
Sorry to hear about your mini stroke, hope you recover quickly. I've been with Octopus Go for a year but they could only install their Secure v1 smart meters (already had v1 smart meters but as we know are not compatible when you switch suppliers) in my area about 4 month later. The rates are good but I've had to constantly ask them to align both my electric and gas billing and the electric was never billed until you call them to do so when your account balance is very high due to no billing. After about 4 email requests about this they've just successfully sent one bill showing both electric and gas. Sadly this seems to be their only Achilles heel in an otherwise great service. I've considered Agile and enquired for their Ohme cable at £199 but sadly I have a smart wall box with a tethered cable and it's only designed for a socket version like your wall box. Their 3 pin version isn't an option worth considering. If only they could design an intelligent adaptor from the tethered plug?
Glad you are back, must have been a shock when you are a young fit man. I got my smart meter by accident with EON, I did not realise when I chose their tarriff that I had agreed to it. Never look at it after the first week. I will look at Octopus, wonder if the eon smart meter will transfer across.
Possibly not - it may be one of the old SMETS1 meters you have which are tied to the network, although if you move to Octopus they would install a new smart meter for free if needed.
Snap. We have had our meters changed over today, but I'm with Bulb. I believe Bulb have EV drivers testing a new tariff, not too sure when it will go live. Haven't got an EV yet, but I have test drove a Kia Soul, had a look at a Tesla, which I have kicked into touch and I'm due a test drive with the Polester 2 on August 21st. Also hoping to test the ID3 out, whenever that maybe, but hoping to have an EV by March next year. Good to see you are nearly back to good health.
Yes, I’ve heard Bulb are testing a new tariff although I don’t know the details yet. You have a great selection of EVs on your list! Let me know which you choose. There’ll be a good few others by then too like the Skoda Enyaq and Cupra El-Born.
Hi Andrew, Great channel, I signed up to Octopus with your code yesterday. My 2020 eNiro arrived 3 weeks ago after 8 month wait, really enjoying the car. Both our daily drivers are now EV, the other being a Zoe. I'm going for the GO tarrif initially, not quite brave enough to try Agile just yet !
Thanks very much, Jason! Glad you’re enjoying the e-Niro. My next video will be comparing Agile and Go to see which is cheaper. It’s going to be pretty close!
I have no idea what any of this means. I’m 19 and a care leaver and I got a smart meter fitted by octopus 2 days ago and it’s not showing my meter readings? Hopefully it shoes up soon
thanks for the update , moved to Octopus at the start of July so will be interesting to see if agile or go is better as I am also,looking to charge at the cheapest rate
Great you're back Asbestos Boy! I note though that the meter that they removed also looked like a smart meter . It looks the same as my smart meter (currently with Scottish Power), we've had it for some years now so maybe it's so old that Octopus (or others) couldn't use it? Did they comment on your old meter having any "smartness" ?
Ok, here’s the geeky bit. Many energy companies started rolling out Smart meters a few years back that were 1st generation (SMETS1). These were only smart with the company who installed them and were designed to send meter read data to the company but nothing else. Now companies have to install the 2nd generation (SMETS2) or upgrade the software to make the old ones ‘stay smart’. These new SMETS2 meters also allow for half-hourly reads, which mean they lend themselves to time of use tariffs. It may be possible to get an existing SMETS1 meter upgraded, but it’s probably easier to get a new SMETS2 installed instead
Thanks Erik! They didn’t mention it explicitly, but they do say on the website about needing a SMETS2/“Secure” meter which I knew I didn’t have because that was the reason Bulb took me off their beta smart tariff initially.
Personally I went from So Energy to EDF for their EV tariff as all weekends and overnights are 8p. Beauty of weekends is I can run the rest of the house cheaply too.
I've been with Octopus for a couple of years. Been waiting for a smart meter install since March, which was delayed because of lockdown. Think I'll call them this afternoon!
When deciding on the best provider / tariff it is important to calculate your total domestic electricity costs. If you have an overnight tariff at a reduced price you are likely to pay a higher than ‘market’ rate during the day. In my case it was ‘cheaper’ overall to have the standard Octopus rate rather than the reduced overnight rate for car charging (based on charging at home to cover 10,000 miles of driving per year). Worth doing some sums before deciding.
Good to see you back, hope your feeling better. Just a quickie, my plan was to drive to Portugal......... didn’t happen nightmare. I am in Barcelona in a Kia Garage, will do a vid clip when get back home.
Oh no! You got all the way to Barcelona and now have to go back?! That’s terrible. Let me know how you get on and the very best of luck with the rest of the journey.
Thanks Andrew, been looking for an ohme cable for a while but never wanted to pay £400 for one, They must have extended the offer past the first 1000 because my sales order was 2600 odd and I got one today for the £199. Also managed to get British gas to install a smets2 on a property we are renovating (had a broken meter when we took ownership) and booked in octopus for the 5th Nov to swap our own out. Took a while to get one from octopus but I think the rollout of smart meters in the North was not as good as down south. Anyway Thanks again Asbestos Boy
Hi. Im in the process of switching from Ecotricity after 10 years to Octopus. Your video has re assured me that I've made a good choice. Used your refferal link too, so thank you.
I have been on octopus go for a year and just rolled over to another tariff and then gone back to Go for another year, however the in house display stopped working 3 months ago (no data) even though I moved it to within 1 m of the meter, then it started working again (after 2 months) but only displays the gas usage. My online account shows the gas and electric meter readings per 24 hours but the electric has not updated from the 24/04/20 I have reported this but not much joy with them in sorting it. Not been billed by them for electric over the last 6 months. Hope your experience with them is better than mine. Sorry to hear of the mini stroke take your time and stay safe.
Glad to see you're up and about. Been on a waiting list for a smart meter for years, British Gas attempted a SMETS1 install about 2016 but removed it the same day. SMETS2 rollout in North of England and Scotland is not going well. Smart meter installation deemed "unlikely to be successful" and been moved to the back of the queue.
Thanks for this great video and I hope you have made a good recovery. Octopus installed a smart meter today, they said they didn't have the most up to date to install which was disappointing but I could get them to come back again. I tried using the meter by putting a battery in it, but no luck. It does seem strange that I have to plug it in to check how much energy I am using! I am going to make sure I am on their best tariff and I will definitely check out your videos again! Thanks V
We're just waiting for our switchover from Scottish Power to Octopus to complete, then we can apply for our SmartMeter. We, too have a dumb one at the moment.
Andrew, if both your electric and gas meters are outside of the property, would there be any reason for the engineer to enter your house? We are shielding here so am a bit nervous about booking a smart meter installation.
Unfortunately, yes - as part of their tests they checked some sockets and the gas boiler and hob. All I can say is that they were *extremely* careful - it put our mind at ease enormously although I’d understand your hesitance if shielding.
I just got my smart meter fitted with Bulb in readiness for getting an electric car in the spring hopefully, I will track my usage and then work out if going straight to agile or the standard tariff will be my choice. I wonder if duel fuel is better than finding a different provider for the gas.
Sorry to hear about your mini stroke, I hope you have got the feeling in your arm back. Thanks for the video, I'm already with Octopus and after watching this I'm going to request a smart meter . Have you done the follow up yet?
Hi andrew. Looking at Octopus energy myself our current deal is up in October. Can you tell me the cost of the smart meter installation.sorry to hear of your mini stroke. I had a full blown stroke myself about 6 years ago. So I know it’s bloody scary when it happens I was lucky I got pretty much a full recovery. Just have to go for eye tests every year.
I have been asking for a smart meter/ home device for the last 6 months and octopus just ignored me. Very disappointed how this company is treating their clients :(.
Don't go with Octopus, they suck!! It took 14 months to resolve my complaint!!! The problems were all caused by faulty SMART meters and arrogant staff who couldn't accept responsibility for anything. Even the managers at HQ were a dead loss. Despite listing all the issues and sending them to their CEO (TWICE), he couldn't even be bothered to reply. I guess you could call me stubborn, I dug my heals in and wouldn't let them off until all the problems were resolved. I now having my 'THIRD' SMART meter installed this week, I hope to god this one doesn't have a flat battery like the last one!! It's not something they tell you on the adverts telling you how fabulous SMART meters are, they're a pain in the arse, the batteries only last around 15 years or (6 months in my case) before you have to have the whole meter changed again, what a waste of resources!! So much for saving the planet!
Why don't you set your charger unit to the times? We have pod point unit and I go on my mobile phone and set the charging times on the app . We its not that simple any more you cannot change tariff on line you have to do it via telephone and its not a freephone.
I’m having my SMETS2 meter installed 7th August to make use of the Agile Tariff. Can’t wait!😆👍 Sorry to hear about your stroke. Glad you have seen the positive side of this though. How about Iron Arm for your new nickname?
In NZ our smart meters are smart for the operator, but give us no information. Plus our overnight rates are the same or similar to day time pricing. Annoying!
Folk should not expect Octopus to supply a smart meter anytime soon - unless you are a TH-cam Vloger of course, then you'll get to the top of the list. I've been rebuffed several times. 'When engineers have availability in your area to get the smart meter installed, we will get in touch with a range of dates and time slots for you. At the moment there is not appointment's in your area.' Also, 'It's hard to say how long it will take for you to have a smart meter installed as it depends on the amount of available engineers in your area or, engineers available near to you.' They have not said if area is large - South West, or smaller Devon. They also referred me today to a 2019 blog from Greg Jackson CEO - which points to problems with the meter infrastructure, suggesting that it's not possible to install in some parts of the country. Not one of their happy customers. Perhaps it would be fairer to your viewers Andrew, to add some cautionary riders.
Thanks very much for this comment, Michael. I’ll mention this in the follow-up. I appreciate I’ve been fortunate - they chased me to rebook the appointment, for instance. I don’t believe that’s due to me making videos though (I doubt they knew who I was at the beginning of the year when I first got the appointment), I think it just comes down to area. They should be much more transparent about what availability they have, someone’s place in the queue and the size of areas.
The energy monitor does work ok when on go but when you migrate over to agile the internal monitor cannot read the half hourly readings so you do not have an accurate costing for agile however the kWh reading is still accurate.
Hi Andy, glad to see you up and about and looking your normal scruffy self. Funnily enough, I instigated a switch and it goes live today (29th). I am on the temporary, awaiting agile, tariff you mentioned. How long did it take to get your smart meter installed from order?
Scruffy! 😆 I can’t remember the dates now but it wasn’t very long for me. I would have been just a few weeks but then there was lockdown of course. I suppose actual waiting time was about a month in total? Not too bad at all given the hassle many others have had!
Thanks mate, very informative and useful, sorry about stroke. Used your referral and they are giving double for the next 8 days so managed to get £100 off
Something you didn't mention is that you'll be able to quickly work out if Agile IS cheaper for you with a weeks data near enough from the portal. As you get half hourly readings for a week from their API available, it's trivial to knock up a sheet to work out if Go or Agile best for you. Agile worked out best for us, as despite the slightly higher EV charge rates, our normal daytime use is actually reasonably high (~ 16kwh outside 4-7pm) with 2 kwh during peak. (This is without the car). The 2 expensive kwh are MORE than offset by the lower rates rest of day. Paying 7-8p a Kwh for 80% of your use really is a gamechanger -> and also allows me to consider charging the car during day before 4pm when needed as it's "only" slightly more than overnight. I'd also comment on Agile, mornings pre-8am have been cheaper in this region than the "go" period farely regularly.
Amazing timing, with this video as i am getting a Tesla Powerwall 2 and upgrading my 4kw solar that is West facing and will be adding another to my East facing side of the roof. I am already with Octopus but will be swapping to their Agile tariff so interested to hear your views in the future. I started watching your channel due to the e-niro as I am looking to get one, but still have a year and a half of my PCP to go and the value offered for my car at the end of the term is almost the same as what they are offering now! So financially it would be stupid to swap it now. I do want an SUV style car due to a neck problem and it being much easier to get in and out of the car. Electric is the way forward, so can only join with powerwall 2 at this time and Tesla would be nice but more likely a Kia E-Niro 4+! Sorry to hear of your mini stroke and hope you make a great recovery. I will follow you on twitter and love your twitter name!
I leased directly from Kia as I wanted to guarantee a new e-Niro on the day of release. OctopusEV and Drive Electric both seem good for leasing though.
Agile has been very expensive so I stuck with Go. Octopus are going to be raising the prices of Go apparently so do check it's still the 5p/kWh night rate.
Hi, i have just switched to Octopus go, but i am having a problem with my display, when i total up my car charging @ 5p and the rest of my use at 14.4p it never matches the figure total shown on the display, the display figure is always more by 20 to 30p, has anyone had the same thing do you know?
Guess their service has now gone to pot. Taken them six months to admit I get my electricity from them, this means I've now missed the cut off point to apply for the warm home discount, thanks Octopus. Also can't have a smart meter because I live too close to an RAF station, bizarre as half the town has one including my brother and next door neighbour. Ah well at least I'm saving money not using the extra electric running that little monitor 😂
I hope this comes to NZ. Here in NZ they forced us to install "smart" meters but gave us no functionality to benefit us, only the supplier as it "costs too much", like $50. Yet with a $3 arduino I can do it so thanks for ripping us off.
It's something Octopus are quite vocal about. I don't think it's something they have much control over: www.current-news.co.uk/octopus-energy-slashes-egregious-standing-charges/ “High standing charges are egregious,” said Greg Jackson, CEO and founder of Octopus Energy. “This £40m package is the beginning of our battle to bring them down. Far too many costs have been loaded onto standing charges - from grid and distribution charges to failed suppliers. These charges just make it more difficult for hard-pressed customers to save money through efficiency and Octopus is making a stand to change that.”
How did the smart meter go? .... They've been a disaster for us and OFGEM don't have any power to sort things out ... they'll 'ask nicely' and that all they can do. Anyone reading, I'd avoid them until proved to be reliable.
Trivial point of simple English: 1p per hour means one penny per hour. Pence is plural - as in 1.5p is one-and-a-half Pence. See how decimalisation trashed the English language. Kissed g'bye to three-and-fourpence, tuppence-ha'penny, two-and-a-tanner. . . hope your health and good fortunes are holding up, and thanks for the video.
Fantastic informative video. I’ve been with octopus for a while but just about to go smart. A question the little smart gadget you use in the video, to show charges etc, did that come free with you smart setup
After 2 years, how do you feel about installing smart meter? Have been seeing a lot of negativity online towards SMs, and it concerns me a lot, as I want to switch over to Octopus Go now and they require SMETS2 meter.
Hi Andrew. Just came across your vlog as have yesterday put a down payment on an E-niro, signed up to Octopus Energy and are all set for the tree hugging to commence!! Can you suggest a home charge installer as it looks to be a bit of a minefield? Anyway, keep up the vlog and glad you're feeling better. Rgds Gary
Thanks Gary! I notice you used my referral code so thank you for that! My charger was fitted directly by PodPoint and has been flawless. When we move we’ll be getting a Zappi. As for independent installers, I’ve not looked into that yet so can’t help there unfortunately. Let me know how it goes!
Glad to see you're feeling better. I've just moved to Octopus and am now waiting for a smart meter to be fitted. Like you I'm wondering about which will be better for me; Go or Agile, and so really interested to see how you get on :)
Just a serious question, are non of you ev owners at all concerned about the possibility that a little further down the line having a smart car and a smart meter could mean that they will be able to dictate when you are able to charge and if you are able to charge, asking for a friend 😊
Not at all. I suppose there could be scenarios where the National Grid might want to stop people from charging (or charging at full power) to avoid blackouts, but it’s highly unlikely to ever effect anyone as people charge overnight when electricity is cheap (and plentiful). And if it meant avoiding blackouts, I think it’d be quite sensible anyway. There’d also be plenty of prior notice if they were going to do that as there is already when the grid capacity isn’t sufficient. Even if restrictions were placed, you could just charge using the normal 3-pin socket if you wanted as that can’t be controlled. Or go to a rapid charger somewhere if really desperate for a charge. But really I think it’s not a big deal and certainly not something I’d worry about.
@@kevindarkstar For anyone that paranoid about it, you can get solar panels and a big battery to be completely self-sufficient! But really, I doubt it'll ever be much of a concern. It's still arguably far better to charge at home even with the slight possibility of not being able to charge in the daytime once in a blue moon rather than be beholden to fluctuating petrol/diesel prices and availability.
Why are you reluctant to go onto agile... I’m changing to Octopus tomorrow so I’ll use your code.. and keep in touch as I get my EV end of October and will move to agile..
That would be great because no know has done a detailed actual financial numbers comparison.... so yes please be the first... to switch to octopus and use your code do I just complete my details after receiving a quote?
@@awesomeactiontv6964 I believe the best way is to use the referral link to get the quote: share.octopus.energy/free-sage-191 Alternatively, after you’ve signed-up you can e-mail Octopus to give them the referral link manually. Thanks in advance!
Andrew Till / Mr. EV all done using your referral link... let me me you get your 50.00... I work in the connected fleet world and after 30 years of running diesel company cars I’m move to a Peugeot 2008 EV GT end of Oct ..... so I’m really looking forward to seeing your study and comparing it to my real life experience... OHme charger on order and I’ve going to get the App Store Octopus agile tracker .... hope you get back to full health soon.. and you already have a super hero name .... Mr EV...
Sorry to hear about the stroke and I like that you have a super power now. Don't go out fighting crime just yet though! For the smart meter did you have to chase up to get it installed? It seems that people who email the CEO or complain and are getting fast tracked. I personally don't like this and wish they would just install people in the queue when it's their turn so I've not complained and I'm here sat waiting patiently. I've been waiting since 7th February though so I'm going back to bulb I think. I don't like the "I'll fasttrack you becasue your complaining" attitude Octopus seem to have. It's a shame really.
Thanks, Andy! I didn’t have to chase, no. In fact, they chased me to get it rebooked after initially being cancelled. I don’t think it’s special treatment as I’d originally booked the appointment at the beginning of the year and I’m not sure I was on their radar as a TH-camr back then! I appreciate I’ve been one of the lucky ones - since posting this video I’ve heard many people moaning on Twitter about how they’ve heard nothing from Octopus yet or that they’ve had problems after installation. I certainly see your point and it’s a tricky one. I’m used to having to moan to companies on Twitter to get them to do something. I think it was the reason I initially set-up my account! It certainly shouldn’t be like that though. I really don’t know what’s better: a company like Bulb who are far less responsive/active on Twitter or Octopus who are so desperate to protect their reputation, they’ll do whatever they can for people who moan. I think Octopus should be more transparent about the way the waiting list works. Clearly they have more availability in some areas than others - hence why I was fortunate, I think - but they don’t seem to make that clear. Even if people were given a number so they knew their place in the queue, that would help. Good luck anyway! I liked Bulb and never had an issue (apart from the final bill taking three months!). From my experience both companies are head and shoulders above all the traditional suppliers!
So happy to see back! Treat it as a warning and change what you need to. I hope Flaviana is OK, it was shock to us a strangers, so I can only imagine what she is going through.
That’s so nice of you to say. Thank you very much. Flaviana is fine. She doesn’t scare easily!
Good to hear you Andrew. I too have switched to Octopus Energy and my smart meter arrives on 31st, following which I will switch to Agile.
Great to see you back on screen.
I've been with Octopus for over 18 months and on agile for the last 4 months, it's really good at saving me money & caring for the environment
Thanks Brian! Great to hear Agile is working well for you.
Just switched to Octopus and used the referral link on the video. Always watch your videos and thank you for all the amazing information your provide people. Just picked up my ID.3 last week and I love it. You nearly had me in an E-Niro before I managed to find an ID.3 that someone had cancelled.
Good news we have been with Octopus for many years. Superb
Good to see you back. Take it easy and look after yourself.
Hi Superhero :-) very nice that you're back on YT. Thanks for this informative video. And on top of that: get well soon again
Thanks so much Tobi!
Hi Andrew, glad to see your back making videos. We just got our e-Niro and I was about to move to Octopus when we found out we were eligible for 5k free miles through edf when we moved to their go electric tariff & leased the car from DriveElectric. We are now on cheaper electric in the house & free electric for the car 😀 I will look at Octopus again next year, so thanks for the video & look after yourself, cheers Tony
Hi Andrew, glad your back on your feet love your updates and please take care of yourself. On the positive note for me I’ve now got my eNiro after 13 months wait.
13 months! I hope it was worth the wait? (I’m sure it is!)
Andrew it’s really great to drive still learning but can’t fault it at all great car
I’m also with Octopus but I’m on their GO tariff. The reason is we have solar panels and a Powerwall as well as a Kona. We’ve found the GO tariff best as we only draw power at night between the hours o 00-30 & 04-30. At 5 p per kWh including VAT. with the Powerwall even in the winter we still only draw power at those times and in the summer draw nothing as the solar panels supply all our needs cooking, hot water, and 🚙
Colin Munro Hi Colin, what size is the power wall, what make is it and who installed it for you. We also have solar panels and now I’m looking to do the same as you.
Good to see you back Andrew. Was checking the feed to see when you post and glad you’re OK now. Keep well and stay healthy!
Thank you!
Nice to see you up and about!.
Great to see you back and looking well.
Thanks Andrew!
With my solar panels I installed a SMA Smart meter in my house. Have a python script to collect data from the device and visualize on a Thingsboard dashboard. And yes - it is fun everyday to see solar production and energy consumation on my dashoards.
That sounds brilliant!
Is this in uk but in winter we dont get much sun🌥🌤
Nice to see you up and about again.
Thanks Mark!
Hope you are better. I have the same meter as you, the Landis&Gyr E470 and to get the correct readings (I am Economy Seven 01.00 to 08.00) you have to read the meter, for the Economy 7 time, between the hours of 01.00-08.00. Octopus couldn’t tell me that. The main reading you can get anytime out of these hours. Thanks for the info. I have just emailed Octopus to see if I am on the best tariff because my day rate is 16.6p and the night rate is 9.65p and standing charge of 20.05p. p.s pick up my E Niro on Friday 31st. Can’t wait.
Thanks for the info, David. And just a couple of days to go before your e-Niro? Exciting!
Thanks for your referral link Andrew, swapped to Octopus yesterday and am already enjoying their great customer service. 👍
Thanks very much, Tony! That’s great to hear.
I have to admin, going Agile was the best thing I've done - it halved my power bill overnight - all I changed was to make sure that we didn't use the dishwasher/washer/dryer in peak hours. BTW, don't forget that as shown, all times are GMT (they don't change their apps to cope with summer time).
Glad you're better after your TIA.
Thanks John! And that’s great to hear. I think Agile will turn out to be a no-brainer for us too.
Glad you are feeling better Andrew, enjoy your cheap electricity!!
Cheap?
Glad you’re back on your feet.
Thanks Glen!
Didn't know about your stroke, so all the best...looking well anyway.
We were with Bulb, but began to feel that their packages favoured gas/electric and gas-only users. We had installed solar panels and a Powerwall a couple of years ago, and took a gamble on future smart energy innovations, ripping out the oil burner and going 100% electric.
We're now also with Octopus, and when the smart meter is installed next month, will be trialing yet another energy package, which is ostensibly what we were hoping would materialise, and are very excited about it...the cost of going pure electric is frightening, and we're hoping this will bring energy costs back to the realms of 'normality'. ;)
I'll report back with details when we experience it in action.
Hi Andy, glad to see you’re back, best wishes to you...Alex moved into a flat that has storage heaters and he’s going to use Octopus Go so he can charge up during the winter at 5p, he’s wondering if the Agile tariff might go up and down with wholesale prices and end up with peaks nullifying the troughs so to speak
Thanks Geoff! I think Go would be better for Alex as it’s consistent, which is better for storage heaters really. Good point about the Agile tariff going up and down. It may be better for electric car drivers who can take advantage of the electricity being cheaper during the night, which will always be the case - whatever the average wholesale price.
Andrew Till / Mr. EV Hi Andy, had an electrician here today as I’m looking into the feasibility of fitting a Powerwall here at Newitt (block of 36 luxury apartments), largely to take advantage of 5p per kWh overnight and reduce communal energy costs (currently £5pa). Reckon I can reduce consumption costs by two thirds with power to spare and recover capital costs over three years...going to be a useful test
Happy to see you're back :)
Thanks Gautier!
Really good to see you feeling better, I had several TIAs but ok now, keep taking the tablets, I was with Bulb , couldn’t get a smart meter, they didn’t want to know about EV tariffs so have joined Octopus, now waiting for new meter.
That’s good to hear you’re okay after the TIAs. Thanks for letting me know. I hope you get your meter soon!
I use Octopus Agile in conjunction with the EV.energy app. Even with a non smart wall charger I can take full advantage of any price plunge and restrict my tariff to below 0p and effectively smart charge my EV.
We also cook before 16.00hrs daily to avoid the high tariff period between 16.00 & 19.00hrs. Works really well.
Great point - I completely forgot to mention EV.energy! Sadly it’s not supported on the Kia e-Niro. I’ll talk about it in the follow-up vid.
Lovely to see you up and running - don't over do it though. Sadly went for Octopus before knowing about your referral link.
Me too :(
Thanks! I notice a couple of people have retroactively had a referral code applied. Might be worth a try depending on when you signed-up?!
@@MrEV hi. Excellent video. I've just applied and used your referral link. Octopus said should get our reward on the 15/9. Cheers. I asked to use the link one day after I am joined and octopus applied it no problem.
@@Buxtonchappy1 Thanks very much, Andy! I hope the switch goes well for you.
@@MrEV hi Andrew. The switch happened last Friday, totally painless.
Octopus has been pretty good so far for us. We have solar panels with a battery and we can force charge our battery at a cheap rate if the day is too cloudy to charge it from the Solar. We also get credit paid to our account for any energy our battery exports
Sorry to hear you had a mini stroke Andrew, glad your ok , must have been very scary? , look after yourself and keep producing these great videos.
Thanks David!
Nice to see you are OK and still "up and at 'em". If you are like my dad, you may well recover everything after a few months. I'll keep some things crossed for you.
Much appreciated, Roderick!
Just signed up with your code. Keep the Octopus Energy and EV content coming! Thanks
Thanks very much, Matthew! I hope the switch goes well for you.
So sorry to belatedly hear about your TIA, but delighted you are on the mend.
Thanks, Leo!
The in house monitor unfortunately does not display the Go tariff either, it try’s but never makes it. The energy usage shown is correct just not the off peak rate. The smart meter itself records peak, off peak and solar export as well if you have panels. Just press the metre button to scroll through the readings. 👍
Sorry to hear about your mini stroke, hope you recover quickly.
I've been with Octopus Go for a year but they could only install their Secure v1 smart meters (already had v1 smart meters but as we know are not compatible when you switch suppliers) in my area about 4 month later. The rates are good but I've had to constantly ask them to align both my electric and gas billing and the electric was never billed until you call them to do so when your account balance is very high due to no billing. After about 4 email requests about this they've just successfully sent one bill showing both electric and gas. Sadly this seems to be their only Achilles heel in an otherwise great service.
I've considered Agile and enquired for their Ohme cable at £199 but sadly I have a smart wall box with a tethered cable and it's only designed for a socket version like your wall box. Their 3 pin version isn't an option worth considering. If only they could design an intelligent adaptor from the tethered plug?
Glad you are back, must have been a shock when you are a young fit man.
I got my smart meter by accident with EON, I did not realise when I chose their tarriff that I had agreed to it. Never look at it after the first week.
I will look at Octopus, wonder if the eon smart meter will transfer across.
Possibly not - it may be one of the old SMETS1 meters you have which are tied to the network, although if you move to Octopus they would install a new smart meter for free if needed.
I hope you are better.. take care of you. 👍🏻👌🏻🙏
Snap. We have had our meters changed over today, but I'm with Bulb. I believe Bulb have EV drivers testing a new tariff, not too sure when it will go live. Haven't got an EV yet, but I have test drove a Kia Soul, had a look at a Tesla, which I have kicked into touch and I'm due a test drive with the Polester 2 on August 21st. Also hoping to test the ID3 out, whenever that maybe, but hoping to have an EV by March next year. Good to see you are nearly back to good health.
Yes, I’ve heard Bulb are testing a new tariff although I don’t know the details yet.
You have a great selection of EVs on your list! Let me know which you choose. There’ll be a good few others by then too like the Skoda Enyaq and Cupra El-Born.
Thanks for that andrew look forward to seeing how it works out cost wise for you. I will certainly be looking at octopus in September.
Hi Andrew, Great channel, I signed up to Octopus with your code yesterday. My 2020 eNiro arrived 3 weeks ago after 8 month wait, really enjoying the car. Both our daily drivers are now EV, the other being a Zoe. I'm going for the GO tarrif initially, not quite brave enough to try Agile just yet !
Thanks very much, Jason! Glad you’re enjoying the e-Niro. My next video will be comparing Agile and Go to see which is cheaper. It’s going to be pretty close!
I have no idea what any of this means. I’m 19 and a care leaver and I got a smart meter fitted by octopus 2 days ago and it’s not showing my meter readings? Hopefully it shoes up soon
thanks for the update , moved to Octopus at the start of July so will be interesting to see if agile or go is better as I am also,looking to charge at the cheapest rate
Glad you are feeling better Andrew. May I ask did the engineers add a isolation switch when they changed over the electricity meter?
Thanks Alex! I don’t believe they did, no.
Great you're back Asbestos Boy! I note though that the meter that they removed also looked like a smart meter . It looks the same as my smart meter (currently with Scottish Power), we've had it for some years now so maybe it's so old that Octopus (or others) couldn't use it? Did they comment on your old meter having any "smartness" ?
Ok, here’s the geeky bit. Many energy companies started rolling out Smart meters a few years back that were 1st generation (SMETS1). These were only smart with the company who installed them and were designed to send meter read data to the company but nothing else. Now companies have to install the 2nd generation (SMETS2) or upgrade the software to make the old ones ‘stay smart’. These new SMETS2 meters also allow for half-hourly reads, which mean they lend themselves to time of use tariffs. It may be possible to get an existing SMETS1 meter upgraded, but it’s probably easier to get a new SMETS2 installed instead
Thanks Erik! They didn’t mention it explicitly, but they do say on the website about needing a SMETS2/“Secure” meter which I knew I didn’t have because that was the reason Bulb took me off their beta smart tariff initially.
I have octopus smart meter too but my gas meter is messing up. How do you read gas meter when gas monitor is blank?
Personally I went from So Energy to EDF for their EV tariff as all weekends and overnights are 8p. Beauty of weekends is I can run the rest of the house cheaply too.
Did they just change the meters, did they need to add any new cabling or anything?
I've been with Octopus for a couple of years. Been waiting for a smart meter install since March, which was delayed because of lockdown. Think I'll call them this afternoon!
Any news?
Good to see you back. Super hero name ? Coolhand..... nope doesn’t quite work.
Thanks Keith!
When deciding on the best provider / tariff it is important to calculate your total domestic electricity costs. If you have an overnight tariff at a reduced price you are likely to pay a higher than ‘market’ rate during the day. In my case it was ‘cheaper’ overall to have the standard Octopus rate rather than the reduced overnight rate for car charging (based on charging at home to cover 10,000 miles of driving per year). Worth doing some sums before deciding.
Good to see you back, hope your feeling better.
Just a quickie, my plan was to drive to Portugal......... didn’t happen nightmare. I am in Barcelona in a Kia Garage, will do a vid clip when get back home.
Oh no! You got all the way to Barcelona and now have to go back?! That’s terrible. Let me know how you get on and the very best of luck with the rest of the journey.
Thanks Andrew, been looking for an ohme cable for a while but never wanted to pay £400 for one, They must have extended the offer past the first 1000 because my sales order was 2600 odd and I got one today for the £199.
Also managed to get British gas to install a smets2 on a property we are renovating (had a broken meter when we took ownership) and booked in octopus for the 5th Nov to swap our own out. Took a while to get one from octopus but I think the rollout of smart meters in the North was not as good as down south.
Anyway Thanks again Asbestos Boy
Similar product in germany is awattar (hourly tariff) combined with a discovergy smartmeter. Using this since march this year ...
Hi. Im in the process of switching from Ecotricity after 10 years to Octopus. Your video has re assured me that I've made a good choice. Used your refferal link too, so thank you.
Thanks so much, Sam! I hope the switch goes smoothly.
I have been on octopus go for a year and just rolled over to another tariff and then gone back to Go for another year, however the in house display stopped working 3 months ago (no data) even though I moved it to within 1 m of the meter, then it started working again (after 2 months) but only displays the gas usage. My online account shows the gas and electric meter readings per 24 hours but the electric has not updated from the 24/04/20 I have reported this but not much joy with them in sorting it. Not been billed by them for electric over the last 6 months. Hope your experience with them is better than mine. Sorry to hear of the mini stroke take your time and stay safe.
Glad to see you're up and about.
Been on a waiting list for a smart meter for years, British Gas attempted a SMETS1 install about 2016 but removed it the same day.
SMETS2 rollout in North of England and Scotland is not going well. Smart meter installation deemed "unlikely to be successful" and been moved to the back of the queue.
Thanks for this great video and I hope you have made a good recovery. Octopus installed a smart meter today, they said they didn't have the most up to date to install which was disappointing but I could get them to come back again. I tried using the meter by putting a battery in it, but no luck. It does seem strange that I have to plug it in to check how much energy I am using! I am going to make sure I am on their best tariff and I will definitely check out your videos again! Thanks V
We're just waiting for our switchover from Scottish Power to Octopus to complete, then we can apply for our SmartMeter. We, too have a dumb one at the moment.
Hope you are feeling better. Take it easy
Thanks Peter!
Andrew, if both your electric and gas meters are outside of the property, would there be any reason for the engineer to enter your house? We are shielding here so am a bit nervous about booking a smart meter installation.
Unfortunately, yes - as part of their tests they checked some sockets and the gas boiler and hob. All I can say is that they were *extremely* careful - it put our mind at ease enormously although I’d understand your hesitance if shielding.
Andrew Till / Mr. EV thanks for the info. Love your channel and your soothing persona. As everyone has said, lovely to see you back at it.
Does the smart meter display show current pricing or is there another way to view real time pricing with octopus agile?
Which smart meter is that ihd3 or Ihd6 do you know which is the latest
I just got my smart meter fitted with Bulb in readiness for getting an electric car in the spring hopefully, I will track my usage and then work out if going straight to agile or the standard tariff will be my choice. I wonder if duel fuel is better than finding a different provider for the gas.
Sorry to hear about your mini stroke, I hope you have got the feeling in your arm back. Thanks for the video, I'm already with Octopus and after watching this I'm going to request a smart meter . Have you done the follow up yet?
Hi andrew. Looking at Octopus energy myself our current deal is up in October. Can you tell me the cost of the smart meter installation.sorry to hear of your mini stroke. I had a full blown stroke myself about 6 years ago. So I know it’s bloody scary when it happens I was lucky I got pretty much a full recovery. Just have to go for eye tests every year.
Sorry to hear about your stroke but great you made a full recovery! Octopus supplies and fit the smart meters for free.
I have been asking for a smart meter/ home device for the last 6 months and octopus just ignored me. Very disappointed how this company is treating their clients :(.
That’s really disappointing to hear as they’ve always been so good. Have you called them? What do they say?
@@MrEV called, emailed and nothing
Don't go with Octopus, they suck!! It took 14 months to resolve my complaint!!! The problems were all caused by faulty SMART meters and arrogant staff who couldn't accept responsibility for anything. Even the managers at HQ were a dead loss. Despite listing all the issues and sending them to their CEO (TWICE), he couldn't even be bothered to reply. I guess you could call me stubborn, I dug my heals in and wouldn't let them off until all the problems were resolved. I now having my 'THIRD' SMART meter installed this week, I hope to god this one doesn't have a flat battery like the last one!! It's not something they tell you on the adverts telling you how fabulous SMART meters are, they're a pain in the arse, the batteries only last around 15 years or (6 months in my case) before you have to have the whole meter changed again, what a waste of resources!! So much for saving the planet!
Why don't you set your charger unit to the times? We have pod point unit and I go on my mobile phone and set the charging times on the app .
We its not that simple any more you cannot change tariff on line you have to do it via telephone and its not a freephone.
I have just switched from bulb to octopus and am awaiting a delivery time for my smart meter.
I’m having my SMETS2 meter installed 7th August to make use of the Agile Tariff. Can’t wait!😆👍 Sorry to hear about your stroke. Glad you have seen the positive side of this though. How about Iron Arm for your new nickname?
I’ll go with Iron Arm - I’m happy with that! 😃
Good luck with the meter installation!
I presume you've since seen the Ohme charger which will sort the scheduled charging for you whenever Agile is the cheapest? Thanks for the video!
In NZ our smart meters are smart for the operator, but give us no information. Plus our overnight rates are the same or similar to day time pricing. Annoying!
But how do you set the tariff...??
Any excess energy in the grid goes on those abominable LED electronic advertising billboards at 800 watts per square metre plus network and cooling
Have you seen the new rates? Over 10p for gas and 36p for electric. Madness...
Great Video as always - glad to hear your ok 👍🏻
Thanks so much!
Folk should not expect Octopus to supply a smart meter anytime soon - unless you are a TH-cam Vloger of course, then you'll get to the top of the list. I've been rebuffed several times.
'When engineers have availability in your area to get the smart meter installed, we will get in touch with a range of dates and time slots for you.
At the moment there is not appointment's in your area.' Also, 'It's hard to say how long it will take for you to have a smart meter installed as it depends on the amount of available engineers in your area or, engineers available near to you.'
They have not said if area is large - South West, or smaller Devon. They also referred me today to a 2019 blog from Greg Jackson CEO - which points to problems with the meter infrastructure, suggesting that it's not possible to install in some parts of the country. Not one of their happy customers.
Perhaps it would be fairer to your viewers Andrew, to add some cautionary riders.
Same situation for me in Suffolk. Very frustrating.
Thanks very much for this comment, Michael. I’ll mention this in the follow-up.
I appreciate I’ve been fortunate - they chased me to rebook the appointment, for instance. I don’t believe that’s due to me making videos though (I doubt they knew who I was at the beginning of the year when I first got the appointment), I think it just comes down to area.
They should be much more transparent about what availability they have, someone’s place in the queue and the size of areas.
The energy monitor does work ok when on go but when you migrate over to agile the internal monitor cannot read the half hourly readings so you do not have an accurate costing for agile however the kWh reading is still accurate.
Agreed, they set an average of 10p in this region, which is however often higher than my average so it all works out.
Hi Andy, glad to see you up and about and looking your normal scruffy self. Funnily enough, I instigated a switch and it goes live today (29th). I am on the temporary, awaiting agile, tariff you mentioned. How long did it take to get your smart meter installed from order?
Scruffy! 😆 I can’t remember the dates now but it wasn’t very long for me. I would have been just a few weeks but then there was lockdown of course. I suppose actual waiting time was about a month in total? Not too bad at all given the hassle many others have had!
Thanks mate, very informative and useful, sorry about stroke. Used your referral and they are giving double for the next 8 days so managed to get £100 off
Something you didn't mention is that you'll be able to quickly work out if Agile IS cheaper for you with a weeks data near enough from the portal. As you get half hourly readings for a week from their API available, it's trivial to knock up a sheet to work out if Go or Agile best for you. Agile worked out best for us, as despite the slightly higher EV charge rates, our normal daytime use is actually reasonably high (~ 16kwh outside 4-7pm) with 2 kwh during peak. (This is without the car). The 2 expensive kwh are MORE than offset by the lower rates rest of day. Paying 7-8p a Kwh for 80% of your use really is a gamechanger -> and also allows me to consider charging the car during day before 4pm when needed as it's "only" slightly more than overnight. I'd also comment on Agile, mornings pre-8am have been cheaper in this region than the "go" period farely regularly.
I’m fairly certain Agile will be cheaper for us too. I’ll do a follow-up video getting into more geeky detail about it.
Amazing timing, with this video as i am getting a Tesla Powerwall 2 and upgrading my 4kw solar that is West facing and will be adding another to my East facing side of the roof. I am already with Octopus but will be swapping to their Agile tariff so interested to hear your views in the future. I started watching your channel due to the e-niro as I am looking to get one, but still have a year and a half of my PCP to go and the value offered for my car at the end of the term is almost the same as what they are offering now! So financially it would be stupid to swap it now. I do want an SUV style car due to a neck problem and it being much easier to get in and out of the car. Electric is the way forward, so can only join with powerwall 2 at this time and Tesla would be nice but more likely a Kia E-Niro 4+!
Sorry to hear of your mini stroke and hope you make a great recovery. I will follow you on twitter and love your twitter name!
Thanks Jawolf! A Powerwall and solar is my dream set-up.
Hi Andrew
If you don't mind me asking, who do lease the eniro from?
Have you looked at the octopus lease schemes?
Any thoughts?
I leased directly from Kia as I wanted to guarantee a new e-Niro on the day of release. OctopusEV and Drive Electric both seem good for leasing though.
Did you ever switch to Agile, I am moving to Go shortly and wasn't sure which to use.
Agile has been very expensive so I stuck with Go. Octopus are going to be raising the prices of Go apparently so do check it's still the 5p/kWh night rate.
@@MrEV yeah that’s why it said when I signed up anyway.
Hi, i have just switched to Octopus go, but i am having a problem with my display, when i total up my car charging @ 5p and the rest of my use at 14.4p it never matches the figure total shown on the display, the display figure is always more by 20 to 30p, has anyone had the same thing do you know?
Roger Stephens maybe you have daily standing charges? Smart meters should add these at midnight for each new day. That might account for it?
Peter
Guess their service has now gone to pot. Taken them six months to admit I get my electricity from them, this means I've now missed the cut off point to apply for the warm home discount, thanks Octopus.
Also can't have a smart meter because I live too close to an RAF station, bizarre as half the town has one including my brother and next door neighbour.
Ah well at least I'm saving money not using the extra electric running that little monitor 😂
Yes, I’m sorry to say they’re nowhere near as good as they were when I made the video. 😔
I hope this comes to NZ. Here in NZ they forced us to install "smart" meters but gave us no functionality to benefit us, only the supplier as it "costs too much", like $50. Yet with a $3 arduino I can do it so thanks for ripping us off.
Why is the Standing Charge so high?
It's something Octopus are quite vocal about. I don't think it's something they have much control over:
www.current-news.co.uk/octopus-energy-slashes-egregious-standing-charges/
“High standing charges are egregious,” said Greg Jackson, CEO and founder of Octopus Energy.
“This £40m package is the beginning of our battle to bring them down. Far too many costs have been loaded onto standing charges - from grid and distribution charges to failed suppliers. These charges just make it more difficult for hard-pressed customers to save money through efficiency and Octopus is making a stand to change that.”
How did the smart meter go? .... They've been a disaster for us and OFGEM don't have any power to sort things out ... they'll 'ask nicely' and that all they can do. Anyone reading, I'd avoid them until proved to be reliable.
We've had no issues with ours, but I believe it depends on the strength of a mobile signal.
Trivial point of simple English: 1p per hour means one penny per hour. Pence is plural - as in 1.5p is one-and-a-half Pence.
See how decimalisation trashed the English language. Kissed g'bye to three-and-fourpence, tuppence-ha'penny, two-and-a-tanner. . . hope your health and good fortunes are holding up, and thanks for the video.
Nice work Asbestos Boy!
Fantastic informative video. I’ve been with octopus for a while but just about to go smart. A question the little smart gadget you use in the video, to show charges etc, did that come free with you smart setup
Yes, that comes with it.
Sad to hear you had a stoke so young, hope you can live with the after affects
After 2 years, how do you feel about installing smart meter? Have been seeing a lot of negativity online towards SMs, and it concerns me a lot, as I want to switch over to Octopus Go now and they require SMETS2 meter.
Hi Andrew. Just came across your vlog as have yesterday put a down payment on an E-niro, signed up to Octopus Energy and are all set for the tree hugging to commence!! Can you suggest a home charge installer as it looks to be a bit of a minefield? Anyway, keep up the vlog and glad you're feeling better. Rgds Gary
Thanks Gary! I notice you used my referral code so thank you for that! My charger was fitted directly by PodPoint and has been flawless. When we move we’ll be getting a Zappi. As for independent installers, I’ve not looked into that yet so can’t help there unfortunately. Let me know how it goes!
Glad to see you're feeling better. I've just moved to Octopus and am now waiting for a smart meter to be fitted. Like you I'm wondering about which will be better for me; Go or Agile, and so really interested to see how you get on :)
Bulb was bought out by Octopus Energy recently
Just a serious question, are non of you ev owners at all concerned about the possibility that a little further down the line having a smart car and a smart meter could mean that they will be able to dictate when you are able to charge and if you are able to charge, asking for a friend 😊
Not at all. I suppose there could be scenarios where the National Grid might want to stop people from charging (or charging at full power) to avoid blackouts, but it’s highly unlikely to ever effect anyone as people charge overnight when electricity is cheap (and plentiful). And if it meant avoiding blackouts, I think it’d be quite sensible anyway.
There’d also be plenty of prior notice if they were going to do that as there is already when the grid capacity isn’t sufficient.
Even if restrictions were placed, you could just charge using the normal 3-pin socket if you wanted as that can’t be controlled. Or go to a rapid charger somewhere if really desperate for a charge.
But really I think it’s not a big deal and certainly not something I’d worry about.
@@MrEV yet😏
@@kevindarkstar For anyone that paranoid about it, you can get solar panels and a big battery to be completely self-sufficient! But really, I doubt it'll ever be much of a concern. It's still arguably far better to charge at home even with the slight possibility of not being able to charge in the daytime once in a blue moon rather than be beholden to fluctuating petrol/diesel prices and availability.
@@MrEV just because ya paranoid, don't mean they aren't out to get you 😏
Ah, the good old days
Why are you reluctant to go onto agile... I’m changing to Octopus tomorrow so I’ll use your code.. and keep in touch as I get my EV end of October and will move to agile..
Thank you! I will go Agile I think - I just wanted to see how Go compares first. I’m going to make a spreadsheet and report my findings soon!
That would be great because no know has done a detailed actual financial numbers comparison.... so yes please be the first... to switch to octopus and use your code do I just complete my details after receiving a quote?
@@awesomeactiontv6964 I believe the best way is to use the referral link to get the quote: share.octopus.energy/free-sage-191
Alternatively, after you’ve signed-up you can e-mail Octopus to give them the referral link manually. Thanks in advance!
Andrew Till / Mr. EV all done using your referral link... let me me you get your 50.00... I work in the connected fleet world and after 30 years of running diesel company cars I’m move to a Peugeot 2008 EV GT end of Oct ..... so I’m really looking forward to seeing your study and comparing it to my real life experience... OHme charger on order and I’ve going to get the App Store Octopus agile tracker .... hope you get back to full health soon.. and you already have a super hero name .... Mr EV...
We’re getting one on the 18th of this month
Sorry to hear about the stroke and I like that you have a super power now. Don't go out fighting crime just yet though! For the smart meter did you have to chase up to get it installed? It seems that people who email the CEO or complain and are getting fast tracked. I personally don't like this and wish they would just install people in the queue when it's their turn so I've not complained and I'm here sat waiting patiently. I've been waiting since 7th February though so I'm going back to bulb I think. I don't like the "I'll fasttrack you becasue your complaining" attitude Octopus seem to have. It's a shame really.
Thanks, Andy! I didn’t have to chase, no. In fact, they chased me to get it rebooked after initially being cancelled. I don’t think it’s special treatment as I’d originally booked the appointment at the beginning of the year and I’m not sure I was on their radar as a TH-camr back then!
I appreciate I’ve been one of the lucky ones - since posting this video I’ve heard many people moaning on Twitter about how they’ve heard nothing from Octopus yet or that they’ve had problems after installation.
I certainly see your point and it’s a tricky one. I’m used to having to moan to companies on Twitter to get them to do something. I think it was the reason I initially set-up my account! It certainly shouldn’t be like that though.
I really don’t know what’s better: a company like Bulb who are far less responsive/active on Twitter or Octopus who are so desperate to protect their reputation, they’ll do whatever they can for people who moan.
I think Octopus should be more transparent about the way the waiting list works. Clearly they have more availability in some areas than others - hence why I was fortunate, I think - but they don’t seem to make that clear. Even if people were given a number so they knew their place in the queue, that would help.
Good luck anyway! I liked Bulb and never had an issue (apart from the final bill taking three months!). From my experience both companies are head and shoulders above all the traditional suppliers!