Understanding The URUK-HAI | Middle Earth Lore

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  • Today we look at the evil breed of warriors known as the Uruks / Uruk-hai!
    We look at when the Uruks first appeared, how they were 'improved' upon, as well as just if there is any difference between 'Uruks' and 'Uruk-hai'!
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  • @FantasySci5
    @FantasySci5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +847

    I loved how the Uruk-hai were portrayed in the movies, they definitely feel different to the orcs; which I think would have been much harder to convey in the movies without this size difference.

    • @jeambeam3173
      @jeambeam3173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Its sad that most of the info of the different types of orcs comes from the movies/games and mods which arent even cannon

    • @UnholyWrath3277
      @UnholyWrath3277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@jeambeam3173 well Tolkien didn't really leave us a ton to work with on that particular subject so it's only natural people fill in some of the gaps. However you are right I wish Tolkien woulda been able to give us a little more on the subject

    • @johnhardebeck4243
      @johnhardebeck4243 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I feel like the orcs were around the size of the uriki in the book but how he made them bigger it really strikes fear

    • @joshuastrickland5264
      @joshuastrickland5264 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The Uruk-hai were my favorite race in LOTR

    • @utahvenator7728
      @utahvenator7728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Uruk hai movie size make theme more like assault troops and snaga more like evil and vicious soldiers the two orcs types are scary but not at the same way

  • @Chameleon1616
    @Chameleon1616 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The physical look, armour design, and military composition of the Uruk-hai in the movies has made them by far my favourite fantasy army. The liberties the movie took distinguished them to level that has made them more iconic then they ever otherwise could have been. It was a good thing.

  • @edmonddantes563
    @edmonddantes563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +429

    “I don’t take orders from orc maggots” was such an alpha line

  • @l.f.b5485
    @l.f.b5485 2 ปีที่แล้ว +360

    They surely are one of the most badass looking soldiers in lotr.
    Especially with the white hand of saruman

    • @loneronin6813
      @loneronin6813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That's why Lurtz stuck out to me so much and I do love the way the Uruk-Hai were portrayed in the movies. Lurtz was especially well-designed as he stood out as a lethal and commanding force to be reckoned with, even when surrounded by other Orcs as well as other Uruk-Hai. You could tell he was the battlefield commander. With The White Hand of Sauron marked on his face, the way he bellowed when he spoke, and even the weapons he wielded you knew he was in charge.

    • @xRob
      @xRob 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Surely it is not the goal for the author or the director to make them look badass. Theres something deeper behind it.

    • @koreancowboy42
      @koreancowboy42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He was also created by the Director to be added. Cuz it was supposed to be Ugluk (idk if that's how it's spelled) the guy who said "looks like meats by on the menu boys"
      He was supposedly to be the commander of the raiders then of the army but they changed some thing sbit but overall it still goes to show that the uruk Hai are a strong force.
      Lurtz showing greater strength and combat prowess against Aragorn goes to show they can fight furiously and without fear. Even when Lurtz was disarmed and stabbed he still had the intent to kill.
      "This is not rabble of mindless orcs, these are Uruk-hai"
      Even tho Saurons armynis mass and large his army were rabble of orcs Even if they had overseers and orc commanders. They weren't armed as properly as Uruk-hai.
      The mordor orcs seem to be wearing scrapes of metal and such not so well armor compared to the uruk-hais.

  • @captaincook9993
    @captaincook9993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +524

    I love the books, but I did prefer the depiction of orcs, goblins, and Uruk-hai as separate evil parallels to men, dwarves, and elves

    • @jamesaron1967
      @jamesaron1967 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      That would have been quite interesting, but unfortunately Tolkien didn't have those exact counterparts in mind when he created these races.

    • @zainshaikh527
      @zainshaikh527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@jamesaron1967 but then what of treebeards assumption, although no more than just a guess, as he stated, that uruk hai were like some mix of humans and orc with their tolerance to the sun and their temperaments/behaviors a parallel to the sins of the men?

    • @zainshaikh527
      @zainshaikh527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Flip orc with uruk hai in conjunction to elf and man and you're set!
      I see the merit in this, but this is more in sense to the steps in evolution as per the newer age in the war. The third age had more of an industrial age pushing against the love and sanctity of all that is good. The growing apathy in everyone and failing blood lines.
      The age prior was more mythical, biblical. The one before, that was more so, I suppose

    • @jeebusyaweirdo3733
      @jeebusyaweirdo3733 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      To be honest, in both folklore and in Tolkien’s story they are actually the same exact thing. He refers to them as goblins only in the hobbit, however he was not a fan of the Norman period of England which is actually what prompted him to change the word for the creatures from goblins (being of Norman French descent) to terminology that he preferred that didn’t use French influence, and orcs and Uruks are also the same thing. Uruk is literally by definition another word for orc.

  • @rangerofthenorth1970
    @rangerofthenorth1970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Orc maggots!!! In my opinnion Peter's Uruk-Hai are great. As a kid a was afraid of them now I enjoy them....James another great video, just keep going!!!!!!

  • @KestralWolfe
    @KestralWolfe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    I appreciate the way Jackson emphasized the Uruk Hai. Their striking design very efficiently showed the difference between the evil and the good. It's shorthand; to show instead of giving information through unneccesary exposition.

    • @isaackim7675
      @isaackim7675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The one thing I did liked in the movies is the weapons they wielded compared to the Orcs' weapons.

  • @carolesmith2619
    @carolesmith2619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Loved the size of the Uruk- hai in the films, made sense that they were massive, I saw 'lurtz' in the science museum in london a few years ago, he was spectacular, stood about 7 feet tall, amazing to see 😊😊

    • @Briguy164
      @Briguy164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think it's kinda funny that a science museum has a fantasy character on display

  • @harry2269
    @harry2269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    i like how regular standard orcs are portrayed in the films as well as the Uruk-hai. They were about perfect for what i want orcs and uruks to be and the differences between them. I also like how the original moria goblins in the fellowship were smaller and more squirrely and pretty different from even regular orcs. On a side note i am not a huge fan of the orcs and goblins from the hobbit films altho they arent all terrible.

  • @SageKronsell
    @SageKronsell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I've always assumed that "Uruks" were simply improved orcs, while Uruk-hai was simply the name of Sarumans elite corps. Probably further enhanced. Maybe even with black numenorean blood, or Dunlending as is speculated.
    They also seem to have been a little bit more "independent" than Saurons orcs somehow. Maybe Saruman could not tie them to his will to the same degree as Sauron and so had to be a better boss to gain their willing allegiance, or maybe the very traits that gave them their advantages, ie. size and sunlight tolerance, precluded that?
    Evil degenerates is a major theme in the legendarium after all.
    Great Video. One of your best in a while. Kudos!
    Question of the day: While I, in general, feel the best parts of the movies was when they stayed as loyal to the text as possible, the Uruk change was fine to me. One of those adaptation issues that simplify matters as needed on screen rather than page.

    • @FuckGoogle2
      @FuckGoogle2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Uruk-Hai orcs mixed with men for added daylight tolerance, Olog-Hai trolls mixed with, eh men? For the same reason.

    • @SageKronsell
      @SageKronsell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@FuckGoogle2 my best guess yes

    • @jamesaron1967
      @jamesaron1967 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@FuckGoogle2 To add further complexity to this subject, Saruman also bred _half-orcs_ and _goblin-men,_ which were distinct from the others and taller.

    • @FuckGoogle2
      @FuckGoogle2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@jamesaron1967 He sure was cooking up a storm, Saruman of many pots.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jamesaron1967
      Ahhh. The sallow fellow at the Prancing Pony. Great point.

  • @ShelvedGamer
    @ShelvedGamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    The stark distinction in the movies always was a positive one for me. It felt like specific geography affected orcs in different ways. Moria Orcs/Goblins having the big bulging eyes and more scrappy form vs the more brutish Mordor Orcs vs the specifically soldier-like Uruk-Hai. The only issue is that it kinda makes the threat peak with twin towers a bit. Rohan is in their element in the pelennor fields and so is Gondor within their walls. Pincered between those two, the Mordor Orcs hardly feel as scary as the Urak-Hai.

    • @cioplasmmajic8327
      @cioplasmmajic8327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Orcs are strong, but they are also cruelly clever. Without the unity of Rohan and Gondor, Minas Tirith would be slowly tormented and broken down mentally and physically.
      Even more, Sauron didn't just have orcs at Pelenor Fields, he also had many Easterlings, and planned to have a whole extra fleet join the battle.

    • @mankyscotchgit4986
      @mankyscotchgit4986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      This is a long post, turns out I had much more to say about this subject than I thought I did (what can I say, I really like RotK).
      While I agree with you about the Moria orcs and the Uruk-Hai being really well done in terms of the visual storytelling, I disagree about the Mordor orcs seeming weaker by comparison. The films do a fantastic job of conveying the absolutely vast numbers of Mordor orcs, and when we see them fighting men on the walls and in the streets of Minas Tirith, they look seriously threatening. They are as tall and as strong as men, and they are absolutely feral, we see them ripping out men's throats with their bare teeth, beginning to cannibalise the dead before the fighting is even over at Osgiliath, which is a brilliant depiction of the absolute onslaught Mordor orcs are capable of. The combat in the streets and at Osgiliath particularly is so brutal and feels much more personal compared to Helm's Deep, and there are fewer heroic moments, the viewer is much more on edge watching Minas Tirith.
      They are also seriously hideous and twisted-looking even compared to the Uruk-Hai, which conveys the depth of Sauron's corrupting evil. And of course they are commanded by the Witch King and the other Nazgul on their flying mounts, and whereas Saruman only had the Uruk berserkers as shock troops, the Mordor army has armoured trolls (think of how threatening the one cave troll seemed in Fellowship, and then realise that there are dozens or even hundreds of them here, scary shit). The scale of the war in Gondor is just on a different level from Helm's Deep, compared to Sauron, Saruman is like a kid playing with toy soldiers.
      Also, the stakes are much higher in Gondor, since we see the massacre at Osgiliath beforehand, and in Minas Tirith there's a strong sense that there is no escape, everything will be decided here, whereas at Helm's Deep they're talking about the mountain pass that the women and children can escape by if it comes to that. The thought of what would happen to the defenceless people of the city if the orcs won is just horrific.

    • @ShelvedGamer
      @ShelvedGamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@mankyscotchgit4986 That's fair. I don't mean to imply the Mordor orcs are weak by any metric than compared to the Urak-Kai Orcs in the movie. I get what you mean in that the Urak-Kai almost strike as sterile compared to the maligned Mordor orcs, though it read to me as Sauron pumped out twisted evil in large number where Saruman focused on a smaller, more elite group of Orcs. Of course this is purely based on the movies but that's how it seemed to me.

    • @adrianaslund8605
      @adrianaslund8605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ShelvedGamer Yeah but Mordor had variety and way more beasts. Isengard only had Infantry at Helms Deep. And maybe some Warg riders at the back.
      No trolls and no flying creatures what so ever.

    • @killer2434
      @killer2434 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But Mordor had the orc lieutenant Gothmog, the Witch-King and the fell beasts, so the enemies’ fear factor definitely didn’t peak during the two towers

  • @annaroselarsen4218
    @annaroselarsen4218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love how in lotr the 2 orcs wanted to have a normal life hangout and just wanted to have fun I imagine them on the beach with sweet tea and just chilling

    • @alejandroblanco7369
      @alejandroblanco7369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The ones in the two towers? Lol I was just rereading that book and the orcs were like no matter who wins we lose lol we could escape with trusted orc boys and live without masters lol poor orcs

    • @annaroselarsen4218
      @annaroselarsen4218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alejandroblanco7369 yes that's the one ! Yeah the poor orcs ever got their chance

    • @JW-jd6sn
      @JW-jd6sn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alejandroblanco7369 it actually opens up a massive question, was there good orcs that wanted to break away from the control of sauron?

  • @quinnalexander3825
    @quinnalexander3825 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The length of blades compared to width has everything to do with cutting power. Thicker blades are better for hacking and slashing, though curved scimitars are as well, but the stocky profile makes a straighter cleaver-like weapon better for cutting through armor rather than flesh (evident in this situation by the armor piercing spikes). The shorter length was likely to reduce weight. Uruks likely used their weapons for battlefields, rather than raids on unarmed peasantry that the ORC MAGGOTS likely carried out.

    • @johanns8533
      @johanns8533 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree with the cutting power part, but no matter how great your weapon cuts - it's not going to cut through metal armor. Historically, the more armor the average person would wear, the more people would use pointier swords to get into the gaps in the armor. As well as blunt weapons & polearms

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    @jasonhamsely6901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Orc Maggots.
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    @RevLJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Orc maggots!
    Love what you guys too. Been following and subscribed for several months. Keep doing what y'all do.

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  • @erikavalentina4940
    @erikavalentina4940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I like how PJ depicted the uruk hai in the movie. I felt real fear when I first saw Lurtz and other Uruk in FOTR long time ago

    • @MsPuffykinz
      @MsPuffykinz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah yes. Ariana grande Uruk, may fav.

    • @erikavalentina4940
      @erikavalentina4940 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MsPuffykinz why Ariana Grande? 😂

  • @urfacecalling101
    @urfacecalling101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I thought the movie depictions were incredible, even they weren't completely accurate. They cut a more imposing figure in the movies and I like the differentiation of the different types of orcs in the movies as well.

  • @thomasA5g36
    @thomasA5g36 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I only found this channel yesterday and I’ve been binging the content. Im loving the work. Thank you.

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    @kenhammscousin4716 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You convinced me to subscribe. Great channel :)

  • @fanklan2011
    @fanklan2011 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always 😁 btw love the fact that i got add longer that vid itself 😂

  • @jacobgordon7998
    @jacobgordon7998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I am fine with the portrayal of Uruk-hai in the Peter Jackson films. His films were in fact my first exposure to the Tolkien's Middle Earth universe and are perfect to establish a visual foundation when reading the books. The books are far better, but the films are still amazing and help provide me a visual of Ea.

  • @BobbyBlackhearts666
    @BobbyBlackhearts666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was just recommended and it piqued my interest so I watched it and thoroughly enjoyed it, your narration especially. Just as I was listening I suddenly got hit by the realisation of why your voice created a soothing, cosy, calming atmosphere! Your voice and the way you speak reminds me of Daniel from Amnesia the Dark Descent. Whenever he read his diary entries I'd feel the horror of the game dissipate and calmness take its place.
    Since I'm a huge fan of the books, despite having grown up watching the movies, personally I wish they had shown a faithful representation of the uruks (among many other things). Huge brooding warriors are intimidating, but ones with arms longer than they should be would've I feel created a rather unsettling effect. Imagine gorillas going on a rampage. xD
    I'm glad I found your channel, and I'll definitely subscribe.

  • @HinderYourGeneral
    @HinderYourGeneral 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I do like that the Uruks are larger in the film. Many people equate a large stature with danger and having such large men play the Uruk Hai plays upon that common thought from audience members.

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    @mikeyfrederick1232 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just gotta say great content sir..interesting and well produced

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    Subscribed. Great content as usual

  • @dj_KaV
    @dj_KaV 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Orc maggots!!! Totally want to see more of these videos! Glad I found your channel!

  • @annatar6453
    @annatar6453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I would be interested in a video about the men of the east (Harad, Rhun, Khand)

    • @b_lea
      @b_lea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ha ha don't even try it Annatar😂

    • @Jonnell01
      @Jonnell01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Harad isn't even from the east, why does everyone keep thinking that haradrim are Easterlings..? They're from totally different parts of middle earth. Just because they allied with Easterlings in the third age doesn't mean they're from the same place

    • @b_lea
      @b_lea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well that's exactly the reason why we need that video...

  • @trexoxford9149
    @trexoxford9149 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The fighting Uruk-hai ! 💪
    Great video. I'm really enjoying your channel, you've got yourself a new subcriber. Please keep up the good work !

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done video!⚔🏹

  • @RobSojourn
    @RobSojourn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    In my reading, i thought the Uruks were slightly smaller than men (5'6"), as opposed to the standard orks which were dwarf sizes. I thought P Jackson did ok for the visual medium, and i liked how he showed the slightly older Uruk Hai having physical problems showing they weren't designed to last through many battles (white hair, cataracts etc)

    • @MsPuffykinz
      @MsPuffykinz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      In the movies the white hair and blotched skin, we’re meant to alude to their inbred nature. How Saruman bred them to be ‘ultimate weapons’ hence their tall nature. Again in the movies.

    • @RobSojourn
      @RobSojourn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@MsPuffykinz I am aware of this, i just thought it was a nice touch to show how they weren't as perfect as movie Sauruman thought they were.

    • @spambot6959
      @spambot6959 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Damn 5,6 is still considered short even in fantasy I'm sad

    • @loserinasuit7880
      @loserinasuit7880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Roth Asta It is pretty normal to see guys 6 ft tall. That or they're slightly shorter.

    • @scarwing2492
      @scarwing2492 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Roth Asta Why specify Americans, such a random baseless claim, nothing about what he said indicated that he was American, I love how people just randomly accuse Americans of doing things they don't do. Average male height in America is 5'9 while in Europe its 5'10, so not that different, only 1 inch difference, also being 6ft tall is not the norm in Europe either, only handful of countries in Europe have a average male height of 5'11.5 to 6'0. Most Americans I have seen, including me, are mostly within the 5'8 to 6'0 range. So if we're talking about Europeans being taller than Americans, then only slightly.

  • @MellowMutts270
    @MellowMutts270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I appreciated the movies representation of the Uruk-hai. They were menacing and hulking which ratcheted up the tension at the end of the Fellowhip. Then seeing Sarumans army of them heading to Helms Deep was mind blowing to my kid self.

  • @GlorfindelofGondolin
    @GlorfindelofGondolin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic as always!

  • @tonybujanovichiii8850
    @tonybujanovichiii8850 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love these videos a lot, I just bought the silmarillion a few days ago and I am loving the lore behind it, my favorite poem would be the battle of Finrod Felagund against Sauron, could it be possible for a video on Finrod and who he was? Keep up the amazing work in what you do. Have a great day!

    • @TheBrokenSword
      @TheBrokenSword  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks so much! Yeah definitely at some point 😁

  • @erickluviano981
    @erickluviano981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I liked how they repeated “WE ARE THE FIGHTING URUK-HAI” over and over in most sentences.

  • @deaconsyxx322
    @deaconsyxx322 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just subbed because you asked nicely 👍🏻

  • @user-jk9sm1tb6u
    @user-jk9sm1tb6u 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Warm voice. I can listen to it all day.

  • @RedStar441
    @RedStar441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isengard Uruk-Hai had the single best drip in Saurons forces.

  • @valentinomiller6251
    @valentinomiller6251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Morgoth was NEVER "in control" of Middle-earth. Morgoth constantly challenged the other Valar for control of Middle-earth, but NEVER wholly gained control.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Actually, he kind of ruled Middle Earth in the time between The Destruction of the Two Trees and when the Valar first arrested him. I think that is the time when all Men of the East and South first became corrupted by evil and became more susceptible to following Sauron later.

    • @rageofinfinity2032
      @rageofinfinity2032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'd like to note that the Valar ended up moving to a different continent, and that Middle Earth was simply the continent on which Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit takes place.
      That being said... Maybe Morgoth didn't 'officially' control Middle Earth, but let's be clear, when the Elves awoke in the first age, they had NO idea where they came from, and wandered aimlessly because the Valar weren't even there.
      They had left already.
      So... if there's no competition to control Middle Earth... and his enemies literally went to live on another one....
      How, exactly, did Morgoth NOT de facto control Middle Earth?
      Heck, the Orcs were corrupted elves who had strayed too far from the main groups! By Morgoth!
      I'd say he controlled all of that territory, even if there was no official statement of it.

    • @Tarnraven12
      @Tarnraven12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Morgoth ruled from his keep for thousands of years. The Valar were afraid to confront Morgoth because of the damage that would occur from there War. The Elves never could match Morgoth in battle. With Balrogs and Dragons. Morgoth ruled. He never figured the other Valar would come to the aid of the elves.

  • @willrogers3793
    @willrogers3793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On the issue of the Uruk-Hai’s swords being shorter and broad-bladed: one *could* interpret it to mean that their swords are more like cleavers or machetes, but it occurs to me that the gladius also fits that description. This was the sword made famous by the Roman legionaries, a short, straight, one-handed sword made for thrusting. Considering the Uruk-Hai’s reputation as being elite foot soldiers, with greater capacity for discipline and tactics than ORC MAGGOTS, I think the concept of them being armed and equipped similarly to legions of Rome would fit pretty well.

  • @gagank478
    @gagank478 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subscribed bro

  • @KaosRunes
    @KaosRunes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You should do a video that shows the height of ALL the creatures of middle earth. Tallest to smallest or vice versa.

  • @jamiegregg9211
    @jamiegregg9211 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    cool vid James really enjoyed it Orc Maggots

  • @chrisgoodwin85
    @chrisgoodwin85 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing that often comes up in your videos is the heights of the various races in Tolkien's works. Perhaps you could do a visual representation of the heights of all the races for comparison? Maybe with Peters Jackson's heights for reference too?
    Keep up the good work!

    • @TheBrokenSword
      @TheBrokenSword  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We already have a video on that haha

  • @mzamethodman7134
    @mzamethodman7134 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Idc what anyone days. The Uruk Hai in the films are simply terrifying and intimidating, the design of them still to this day instills that feeling of "yeah nah mate im not fighting that"

  • @Youtubesucks916
    @Youtubesucks916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I subbed along time ago!
    Also I like to think goblins are a more primitive version or orcs and orcs are the bread that branched off and is smart and builds great structures and of course Uruk hai are bread for war

  • @christianlekstrom2398
    @christianlekstrom2398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haven´t read the books but think the movies are flawless and don´t want anything changed!
    Have a hard time seeing anyone else would have done a better job, they are perfection...

  • @qiqi9057033
    @qiqi9057033 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am subbed homie

  • @mrmudcatslim1004
    @mrmudcatslim1004 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay man I subbed. This is kinda a nitch and not everyone would appreciate it. I stumbled across it myself. Its a good channel.
    Interesting lore. Maybe it will not grow as readily as more mainstream channels, still I have been impressed so far.

  • @emperorkraglint9792
    @emperorkraglint9792 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the movies did a great job adapting them. Though I mean no disrespect to the honorable J.R. Tolkein, the size in the movies feels more threatening and honestly makes the heroes and forces of good to feel more awesome when we see them win.
    Also as a martial artist, I find the smaller size a bit laughable, yes they are stronger but height and mass play a huge part in melee combat, especially when talking medieval line infantry, Raiders, and even skirmishes.
    Love the videos. I'm new here and so I'm happy to be a sub

  • @TheVampireFreddo
    @TheVampireFreddo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I liked how imposing they were in the movies, even if their sizes were a little exaggerated. It made their threat more concrete.

  • @swordofcoffee
    @swordofcoffee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I really liked the way PJ portrayed the uruk-hai. I thought that uruk-hai meant something like "high ork" given that they seemed to be better than the standard uruk and a far cry from their cave dwelling kin.

    • @mankyscotchgit4986
      @mankyscotchgit4986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm pretty sure it means 'Orc Folk' (I think this is in the appendices). There are also Olog-Hai ('troll folk') who are described as trolls resistant to sunlight (similar to the Uruk-Hai). I kind of wonder if 'folk' in this context means 'men', as pureblood orcs and trolls famously can't deal with sunlight, and there was an explicit reference to cross-breeding with the half-orcs (although I'm very glad they went for the 'birthing pit' magical genetic engineering as an explanation for this in the films, as it avoids some nasty implications). Maybe Uruk-Hai are more like quarter-humans (and three-quarter orcs) or something, who have also been selectively bred as stronger soldiers.

  • @konnorrockkonnoisseur4970
    @konnorrockkonnoisseur4970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favorite Uruk-Hai moment in the films is the “looks like meat’s back on the menu boys” scene. There’s a clear social separation between the orca of Mordor and the Uruks of Isengard, one where Uruks see the orca as scum, lesser, and are willing to protect the Hobbits they’ve captured in order to follow Saruman’s orders, and they are loyal to him, not Sauron

  • @woodrowwilly
    @woodrowwilly 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravo, sir. Bravo. Amazing content.

  • @metalmadsen
    @metalmadsen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Loved the Uruk-Hai in the LOTR movies.
    They look a lot more awesome than the orcs in the Hobbit. All though it’s way cooler that the Hobbit-orcs talks in black speech than cockney.

  • @justadogobeingdogo5766
    @justadogobeingdogo5766 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ORC MAGGOTS!!! Great video as always!

  • @davidtatro7457
    @davidtatro7457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We're not sure if Saruman's tweaking of the Uruk breed to create the Uruk Hai included increasing their height and size or not, so l think the movie versions were within a reasonable size range given what relatively little we know about their physical details from the books. Nice job on the video.

  • @annaroselarsen4218
    @annaroselarsen4218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Happy Hobbit week everyone!
    I'm celebrating early lol

  • @user-ln5bb4pb2t
    @user-ln5bb4pb2t ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Well there you are a hobbit amongst Urukhai, keep up your hobbitry at heart and think that all stories feel like that when you are in them. You are inside a very great story"
    That brought tears in my eyes Tolkien actually implies that we should keep our values no matter what evil surrounds us

  • @catherinehughes2565
    @catherinehughes2565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this channel because when I started loving lord of the rings this gave me more information for it and there for I just want to say thank you Broken sword

  • @cmsart
    @cmsart 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a new sub and proud of it

  • @tuomaspolla3814
    @tuomaspolla3814 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the separation between the Orc-kind, because it is then far more easier to tell which is which. I like to think that Uruk-Hai are the upgrade of the regular Orcs while he Goblins represents what the Orcs are slowly destined to become.

  • @lopirobinson1991
    @lopirobinson1991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That Uruk-hai that was made just for the film, the one that shot Borimir, looked genuinely creepy.

  • @KevDaly
    @KevDaly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wish the movies had retained the aversion of the ordinary Orcs to light, and the use of darkness by Sauron. It's hard to film but it's a key part of the mood og despair.

    • @NecrosAcolyte
      @NecrosAcolyte 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They did. Watch the extended cuts and try not to be retarded this time

  • @DOSHIELD
    @DOSHIELD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Orc maggots! I love the detail you added from Tolkien’s letters.

  • @Avylyn
    @Avylyn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes please more content! Orc maggots

  • @Loki_Firegod
    @Loki_Firegod 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Orc Maggots!
    Also, for the question of the swords: curved scimitars and broad swords are fundamentally different solutions to blade weaponry. In my personal interpretation, the broad-bladed swords of the uruk-hai are also thicker (heavier) than the scimitars. Therefore, they are much sturdier and able to deal with armor, whereas the curved blades of the common goblins are suited more for fighting unarmored or lightly armored opponents - which does especially fit the Orcs of the Misty Mountains, who mostly get by ambushing travellers and pillaging small settlements rather than going to large-scale war. Curved blades are more "slicy" than straight ones, although that does depend on the specific blade shape as well.
    Then again, that's really just how I read it. There are plenty of examples of curved swords that are perfectly suitable for fighting armored opponents (like the Kriegsmesser), and straight-bladed ones that aren't supposed to be used against armor at all.

  • @Pippin421
    @Pippin421 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    love this video

  • @mokomoko1654
    @mokomoko1654 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the Thumbnail, where an Uruk has copied Saurons Stance :D

  • @Swatman170
    @Swatman170 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Orc Maggots!
    The design of the Orcs, Uruks, and Trolls in the movies were some of the first things to get me into Fantasy over 15 years ago at this point.

  • @Huskytabby
    @Huskytabby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What-if video idea for you to do:
    What if Gandalf never fell at the Bridge of Khazad-dum and continued with the fellowship to Lothlorien and forward?

    • @samkendlinhobbs8494
      @samkendlinhobbs8494 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would recommend the fanfic ’For the Want of Rope’ mate. It’s actually really well written and poignant

  • @Momojojo24
    @Momojojo24 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice intro 🙃

  • @Magnus689
    @Magnus689 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Every Mallard is a duck, but not every duck is a Mallard.

  • @sotiriospeithis6659
    @sotiriospeithis6659 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Saruman uruk hai look amazing in the movies. I think they kept Tolkien's idea for the mordor uruks : they are nowhere near as large as saruman's uruk hai, but some are clearly larger than normal orcs.

  • @MrBracey100
    @MrBracey100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I liked them being so large and distinctive in the films.

  • @joeoneil5944
    @joeoneil5944 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lmfao ugluk just made my day 🤣well placed

  • @pink_alligator
    @pink_alligator 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it was a good choice to change the height, makes the scenes much more cinematic and I think if more of them were more similar heights bigger scenes might end up looking more like a big blob and it would be harder to tell from distance what is what

  • @Mattatronian
    @Mattatronian 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subbed x

  • @maximusatlas9377
    @maximusatlas9377 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I read the books I still try to make at least a few Uruks to be very large. The movies did a great job at making them different.

  • @tefazDK
    @tefazDK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need some more videos about Melkor on your channel.

  • @gregorybuttari8651
    @gregorybuttari8651 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The increase in size and mass made them feel like a living representation of the shadow and symbol of hate that our heroes have to overcome to get to the light.

  • @bobsbigboy_
    @bobsbigboy_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Uruks are perfect in the films! They're so intimidating... Especially with their respective soundtracks

  • @Crescent_2001
    @Crescent_2001 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sword enthusiast here: Broad, short swords are perfect for bashing a opponent at close range. A good example is the German shortsword called „Katzbalger“.

  • @marcoscarvalho8486
    @marcoscarvalho8486 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video

  • @kerrymandanny8135
    @kerrymandanny8135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved how they were portrayed in the movies. In the books they are kinda interchangeable but in the movies the difference between the orcs goblins and uruk hai is awesome. Personally I prefer how the orcs looked. Small and menacing.

  • @DIDDYKONG916
    @DIDDYKONG916 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I think of the Uruks. I always view them as the films. I think the films got it right and better over the actual books.

  • @davidwright2880
    @davidwright2880 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it’s pretty cool how they made the Uruks in the films.
    One thought would be that if the movies are the story being told years later, the uruks would be imagined as giant brutes with how ferocious they were.

  • @FellVoice
    @FellVoice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Uruk-hai were a badass change from book to screen. I do however wish that Jackson had clarified what he Sarumon meant when he said "orcs and goblin men".

  • @thevillageblacksmith8550
    @thevillageblacksmith8550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Like most people I liked PJ'S version of the the evil races. Having clear distinguishable characters that made it that much more engaging. I even think people make such differences on thier own as they read the books. I did before the movies came out because it made them that much more frightening.

  • @pattonramming1988
    @pattonramming1988 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The portrayal by Jackson really highlighted the discipline and savagery of the Uruk hai whereas the standard orc had little in the way of strength agility or tactics
    I honestly believe that if it came to a war between Sauron and Saruman the white wizard's army would claim the edge in so many tactical situations they would easily win in asymmetrical warfare being able to field larger contingents of cavalry along with having developed explosives and probably have learned how to survive in the wilderness better than any orc
    Saruman also takes the time to ensure that his army is well equipped
    I would like to see a ranking of evil factions to see which one is more powerful in terms of economy industry and militarily

  • @KravRage
    @KravRage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Orc maggots. I'd love to see that video.

  • @sottedkraken9971
    @sottedkraken9971 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes on more about Orcs....

  • @keithgiles3484
    @keithgiles3484 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would very much enjoy a episode on orcs and one on goblins

  • @jedibattlemasterkos
    @jedibattlemasterkos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the movies do a great job of distinguishing between orcs and goblins. Goblins seem like a more diminutive and numerous sub species of orc. Especially in the scenes where they're in the mines.

  • @123valax
    @123valax 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a big fan of Shadow of War and had to learn more about my orc bois!

  • @hiddendesire3076
    @hiddendesire3076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:10 Got some Mandalorian flashbacks

  • @BillB23
    @BillB23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm subbed. Here's a gratuitous comment for your analytics.

  • @WickedPrince3D
    @WickedPrince3D 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Peter Jackson took a great many liberties with the story for his movies. I'm less "distressed" by the size of the orcs than I am by the size of the "oliphants" and the choice to use the ghosts to fight them because Peter made them too big to be defeatable by mere mortals. But overall I think he remained true to the core of the story in any case.

    • @waynepurcell6058
      @waynepurcell6058 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Peter Jackson occasionally suffers "Star Wars" syndrome where "bigger" is always supposed to be "cooler" for some reason. The size of the oliphants was ridiculous and I'd rather Jackson had left the ghost army out altogether instead of showing them as some sort of invincible force.

    • @WickedPrince3D
      @WickedPrince3D 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@waynepurcell6058 I agree; it would have been more dramatic IMHO for Peter to have the sailors of the city in southern Gondor (I forgot the city name and can't seem to find it, I vaguely remember it as Belfalas or something similar. The Oliphants that could crush the winged mounts of the Nasgul were overblown. So yes I agree with you, though I accepted it as "artistic license."

  • @MahkRonAKash
    @MahkRonAKash 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So there was another Boromir... who also had a father named Denethor. Fascinating.

  • @gunnarhjalmarson8930
    @gunnarhjalmarson8930 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how the movies portrayed goblin Uruk and orc as different, most of the orcs in the Misty mountains had been there for up to 3000 thousand years up to the lotr and I think that’s enough time to change your behaviour and looks