Malacath mourned Emmeg but was not powerful enough to take him back from Sheogorath. A truly tragic moment for a being who was once the mightiest of the Aedra…
Yeah Orcs are definitely a criminally underrated. Brutal but honorable warriors, that can endure hardship that would break the other races, and are absolute beasts in battle. Really hoping TES 6 is set in Hammerfell or High Rock and Hammerfell since we will definitely be getting some more orc lore and we will finally be able to visit Orsinium in a mainline TES game.
I’m hoping it’s both. In that case, they can take the spaceship mechanics from starfield and apply them to boats for the illiac bay. Imagine having your own tiny dinghy and being able to work up to a full cargo sailing ship. Pirating between high rock and hammer fell. It would be incredible
@@EthanLetters99you could do that in Hammerfell alone, probably even sail to Stros M’kai in a Shivering Isles/Dragonborn-esque expansion, maybe even to Anvil for a nice throwback
@@FumblsTheSniperI have to disagree with that take, as while Tolkien wrote them as Evil he did not think them Irredeemable... thats why I think TES is a closer successor, at least spiritually to Tolkien's Orcs. Both being changed folk who original stoke are of Elves (Tolkien later felt uncomfortable with this, but never gave a new backstory) as well as both have potential redemption Arcs, with TES Orcs kinda already getting it
@@Jiub_SN oh yeah fully agree with Orcs being closer to being "Good" than most of the other elves, especially in the "modern" (4E) Era. I meant structurally, as both Orcs of Tolkien and Orismer of TES being corrupted/changed from their original form via a Evil God's Influence
Question. How does Orsinium like, work? Multiple strongholds/clans in one castle? Or do they not necessarily follow the same practices that the Orcs of Skyrim hold? it’s hard to imagine it working with their culture
I think several clans and strong holds operating in the borders paying tribute to the capital and orc king. But each stronghold and the other settlements of the orcs in orsinium is probably largely self governed. I could be wrong but i honestly could t find that much info on that tbh
Orsinium itself has a decent amount of land in between high rock and skyrim (currently) now theres also the capital city which is also called Orsinium which is probably something like imperial city but the orcish version and theres some other citys in the nation but smaller and i imagine a good amount of strongholds in the kingdom and across the mountain ranges
Im not intending to mean this in any other way than (mostly) a compliment. You sound like if Rick, from Rick and morty, went into history rather than science, but because knowing everything about the Magna Carta and the war of 1812 doesn’t help you hop across space and time and visit other universes you just started learning history from all fictional universes. Same level of well informed apathy and clearly enjoying the humor where you can find it like with the orcs rubbing trini-mala-turd on their skin. It’s kind of refreshing and I do enjoy it.
I always wondered if some of the Orsimer were once a faction of the Ancient Lost Falmer since they once served the same pantheon of the Elven Gods including Triminac that the Altmer currently served.
I've never understood why the orcs and Malakath were so disrespected and blown off. They're some of the toughest, strongest, most long-suffering group of people in the entire history of Nirn. They are the least understood, though they really aren't hard to figure out. They are proud, loyal, honorable, and some of the best warriors the Empire has ever had. They are a proud people, like their god. Malakath was a proud Aedra, which is what led to his fall. It wasn't being beat and changed by Boethia that sent him running off - it was the humiliation. His secrets were revealed, his lies called out - he was humiliated. Pride goeth before the fall, as it is said.
Malacath is literally the patron of the dishonoured and spurned, little wonder why normies don’t like him. Code of malacath is singlehandedly preventing the Orcish race from making societal progress, it advocates extreme tribalism and isolationism which makes it difficult to communicate and build good relations with other races, it also encourages internal strife and ableism (eugenics, polygamy)which causes individuals to leave and become city orcs who later assimilate into other societies, a massive brain drain. Individual orcs maybe strong, but in large scale conflicts their inferior culture predetermined their defeats, every, single, time.
Yoo good to see you cover elder scrolls. Possible future topic on the Yokudans? Or Ehlnofey? Would find that super interesting considering nothing much is covered about the old tribes of men and mer, and the war that transpired between them.
Both great topics, the yokudans im planning on covering at some point as well as akavir but also the old tribes of men and mer are super interesting, the ayleid kingdoms in particular have always grabbed my interest but i understand the lore has changed a bit with esos abrupt introduction lol
From my understanding, the Term "orc" was used before the Orcs, at least as we know them, existed. They were first called Orsimer, and then the other races extended the term "orc" to also include the pariah folk, probably due to similarities in appearance, and at some point, the definition of "orc" shifted, with the result, that the Term "orc" is now synonymous with the Orsimer.
Yeah, I think elven society originally referred to goblins as “orcs” and extended this to the Orsimer since the two appear similar: green skin, tusks, etc as a way to denigrate them because goblins were enslaved by Aldmeri and later Altmeri society.
Azura is chill as fuck tho. She literally just wants her followers to love her, not worship. Like a respect thing instead of a revering thing, she only does bad shit when someone she loves disrespects her, she's basically just a mortal that has godly powers lmao
Great video, thanks. I love long form TES lore. Also, don't confuse sentient life for intelligent life, which is a very common mistake. Sentience means you can feel things. It doesn't have to do with being unintelligent or mindlessness. Mushrooms are allegedly sentient.
I’m pretty sure, forgive me if wrong, that High Rock was still reeling from mistreatment by mer. A bunch of daedric worshipping elves, that look like goblins, probably wouldn’t be welcomed in by the drove. It also sort of goes against their morale codes, which are about individuals finding success as opposed to a large group working for the goals of a single authority figure.
Aedra and Daedra started off with roughly similar power levels, but the Aedra decided to participate in the project of creating the mortal world which actually resulted in them being dramatically less powerful as they were drained in the process. The Aedric gods are currently less powerful than Daedric Princes. Even Akatosh has done not much of anything for thousands of years.
Awesome History of the orc race!, idk about you but if i met an orc woman looking like the one on the thumbnail I'd have to have to ask talos for forgiveness afterwards 😂
So the Orsimer, who's racial ability in Oblivion is called *Berserk,* are characterised by persisting through the constant *struggle* of Orcish life under their harsh circumstances? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Orsimer are literally a race of strugglers, Malacath is even depicted with a giant mf sword like Guts and is all about getting revenge on those who wronged him and his people. TES Orcs have always been a Berserk reference lmfao.
Ohoo, so you're doing elder scrolls lore now? You're definitely chill enough to listen to for this sort of stuff. Other people are a bit too serious and your more casual tone is nice.
Im still doing fromsoft stuff as well, i havent played the new armored core but ive been replaying the souls games, i got a couple dark souls 3 videos coning up too
bit of a shame there weren't any Orsinium orcs in the Reach during Skyrim, I could see them being an important ally to the Reachfolk. They both live in the same vague region and suffer the same hardships as a result.
Malacath just seems like the latest and lamest of the Daedric princes and the same way he finds and claims artifacts he claims the Orcs- it's literally the best and only-est thing he's got going for him- not like any one else would worship him. So perhaps he's the greatest trickster god of them all.
I assumed that you dont see old orcs because of their way of life. The love of war/fighting/hunting and the tribalism always seemed natural that you would see many elderly.
Yeah i tend to ignore esos contributions to the lore as well c0da's but i didnt want to gloss over the orcs history in the second era, thats part of what took this so long is i had no idea they did an orsinium dlc, when i saw that i was like fuck
Malacath mourned Emmeg but was not powerful enough to take him back from Sheogorath. A truly tragic moment for a being who was once the mightiest of the Aedra…
It makes sheogoraths comment about malacath being no fun hit alot harder
@@TheHonoredMadman Malacath: "OH if I was still Trinimac, you smug bastard..."
Yeah Orcs are definitely a criminally underrated. Brutal but honorable warriors, that can endure hardship that would break the other races, and are absolute beasts in battle. Really hoping TES 6 is set in Hammerfell or High Rock and Hammerfell since we will definitely be getting some more orc lore and we will finally be able to visit Orsinium in a mainline TES game.
I’m hoping it’s both. In that case, they can take the spaceship mechanics from starfield and apply them to boats for the illiac bay. Imagine having your own tiny dinghy and being able to work up to a full cargo sailing ship. Pirating between high rock and hammer fell. It would be incredible
Nords and Orcs are the hardiest races
@@EthanLetters99you could do that in Hammerfell alone, probably even sail to Stros M’kai in a Shivering Isles/Dragonborn-esque expansion, maybe even to Anvil for a nice throwback
They're green nords but a bit more combative, and humans would rather play humans
@@EthanLetters99keep dreaming my friend
Liked and subscribed, Sir. That was an awesome lore video, my favorite race of elder scrolls.
Have a newfound respect for Orcs. Never really thought of them much before
Great video!
Here I was thinking the deepest lore regarding orcs in gaming was them being alien invaders from a dying world.
Well you need to check out some Leutin09 videos about 40k lore. That franchise has the general idea from Tolkien perfected.
@@FumblsTheSniperI have to disagree with that take, as while Tolkien wrote them as Evil he did not think them Irredeemable... thats why I think TES is a closer successor, at least spiritually to Tolkien's Orcs. Both being changed folk who original stoke are of Elves (Tolkien later felt uncomfortable with this, but never gave a new backstory) as well as both have potential redemption Arcs, with TES Orcs kinda already getting it
@@elmine7707orcs in TES aren't really evil and are probably the least evil of the elves as far as we know
@@Jiub_SN oh yeah fully agree with Orcs being closer to being "Good" than most of the other elves, especially in the "modern" (4E) Era. I meant structurally, as both Orcs of Tolkien and Orismer of TES being corrupted/changed from their original form via a Evil God's Influence
Just as the orcs are underrated so is most of your videos absolutely love your stuff man
Question. How does Orsinium like, work? Multiple strongholds/clans in one castle? Or do they not necessarily follow the same practices that the Orcs of Skyrim hold? it’s hard to imagine it working with their culture
I think several clans and strong holds operating in the borders paying tribute to the capital and orc king. But each stronghold and the other settlements of the orcs in orsinium is probably largely self governed. I could be wrong but i honestly could t find that much info on that tbh
Orsinium itself has a decent amount of land in between high rock and skyrim (currently) now theres also the capital city which is also called Orsinium which is probably something like imperial city but the orcish version and theres some other citys in the nation but smaller and i imagine a good amount of strongholds in the kingdom and across the mountain ranges
@@TheHonoredMadman that’d make a lot of sense
I wonder if the other counties send in mercs to try and exploit resources
I wouldnt doubt it, given how the bretons operate.
Bro the editing in the "trailer" the other day was awesome. And this full version is sure to be an even better editing pleasure
An hour long video hell yeah gonna listen while I do some college work I appreciate it my man
Running into an orc bandit while low-levelled in Morrowind is always an eye-opener.
Im not intending to mean this in any other way than (mostly) a compliment.
You sound like if Rick, from Rick and morty, went into history rather than science, but because knowing everything about the Magna Carta and the war of 1812 doesn’t help you hop across space and time and visit other universes you just started learning history from all fictional universes. Same level of well informed apathy and clearly enjoying the humor where you can find it like with the orcs rubbing trini-mala-turd on their skin.
It’s kind of refreshing and I do enjoy it.
That sexy orc thumbnail. lol. cool to see you doing elder scrolls content, orcs got cool ways of life
I always wondered if some of the Orsimer were once a faction of the Ancient Lost Falmer since they once served the same pantheon of the Elven Gods including Triminac that the Altmer currently served.
3 changed races. The khajit were altered as well into their current forms.
4, the nords. They changed from being elven hunting warlords to imperial simps
@@nicholasscott5905 5. If you're counting the Khajiit, why not count the Bosmer?
Fuggit just Oprah it up and hand em all a change. Thanks nerfed racial abilities@@williamchristy9463
good stuff! hope the views on this pick up man, you deserve it!
I've never understood why the orcs and Malakath were so disrespected and blown off. They're some of the toughest, strongest, most long-suffering group of people in the entire history of Nirn. They are the least understood, though they really aren't hard to figure out. They are proud, loyal, honorable, and some of the best warriors the Empire has ever had. They are a proud people, like their god. Malakath was a proud Aedra, which is what led to his fall. It wasn't being beat and changed by Boethia that sent him running off - it was the humiliation. His secrets were revealed, his lies called out - he was humiliated. Pride goeth before the fall, as it is said.
Malacath is literally the patron of the dishonoured and spurned, little wonder why normies don’t like him. Code of malacath is singlehandedly preventing the Orcish race from making societal progress, it advocates extreme tribalism and isolationism which makes it difficult to communicate and build good relations with other races, it also encourages internal strife and ableism (eugenics, polygamy)which causes individuals to leave and become city orcs who later assimilate into other societies, a massive brain drain.
Individual orcs maybe strong, but in large scale conflicts their inferior culture predetermined their defeats, every, single, time.
This is so informative!!! Fantastic reporting; I love this kind of content!🌻🌼🐝
Easily the most based race in the entire series, and one of my favorite races in fiction in general.
Yoo good to see you cover elder scrolls. Possible future topic on the Yokudans? Or Ehlnofey? Would find that super interesting considering nothing much is covered about the old tribes of men and mer, and the war that transpired between them.
Both great topics, the yokudans im planning on covering at some point as well as akavir but also the old tribes of men and mer are super interesting, the ayleid kingdoms in particular have always grabbed my interest but i understand the lore has changed a bit with esos abrupt introduction lol
From my understanding, the Term "orc" was used before the Orcs, at least as we know them, existed.
They were first called Orsimer, and then the other races extended the term "orc" to also include the pariah folk, probably due to similarities in appearance, and at some point, the definition of "orc" shifted, with the result, that the Term "orc" is now synonymous with the Orsimer.
Yeah, I think elven society originally referred to goblins as “orcs” and extended this to the Orsimer since the two appear similar: green skin, tusks, etc as a way to denigrate them because goblins were enslaved by Aldmeri and later Altmeri society.
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Also I love the clarification! 😂
Malakath is probably the only Daedric Prince that I respect.
Azura is chill as fuck tho. She literally just wants her followers to love her, not worship. Like a respect thing instead of a revering thing, she only does bad shit when someone she loves disrespects her, she's basically just a mortal that has godly powers lmao
I better not hear any Orc slander, Green Boi representation is important.
Orcs = Shrek
Great video, thanks. I love long form TES lore. Also, don't confuse sentient life for intelligent life, which is a very common mistake. Sentience means you can feel things. It doesn't have to do with being unintelligent or mindlessness. Mushrooms are allegedly sentient.
I left when he said the merethic Era was before the dawn Era, jackals its called the dawn Era for a reason
monumental work man, love it
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How can you hate orcs man, they are so honorable and awesome 😂
He didn’t even have to do that but they did anyway
nice Hell On Wheels reference
I’m pretty sure, forgive me if wrong, that High Rock was still reeling from mistreatment by mer. A bunch of daedric worshipping elves, that look like goblins, probably wouldn’t be welcomed in by the drove.
It also sort of goes against their morale codes, which are about individuals finding success as opposed to a large group working for the goals of a single authority figure.
I am a staunch Elf fan in like every setting. I still like the elves, but this video shot the orcs up on my list of favorites.
Orcs are still technically elves, though they are the most manlike of the mer
What the hell is that speech from God damn
Intro and outro speeches are from Thomas Durant in the show Hell on Wheels, they were cookin
Thank you for working on another video bro
I always figured the Aedra were inherently stronger than the Daedra.
Weird hearing of Boethiah just straight up eating an Aedra
Aedra and Daedra started off with roughly similar power levels, but the Aedra decided to participate in the project of creating the mortal world which actually resulted in them being dramatically less powerful as they were drained in the process. The Aedric gods are currently less powerful than Daedric Princes. Even Akatosh has done not much of anything for thousands of years.
Sorry I put this asside. I wanted a day where I could catch this in full.
long video, glad I brought my bong!
The orcs and the nords do a little trolling.
Awesome History of the orc race!, idk about you but if i met an orc woman looking like the one on the thumbnail I'd have to have to ask talos for forgiveness afterwards 😂
So the Orsimer, who's racial ability in Oblivion is called *Berserk,* are characterised by persisting through the constant *struggle* of Orcish life under their harsh circumstances? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Orsimer are literally a race of strugglers, Malacath is even depicted with a giant mf sword like Guts and is all about getting revenge on those who wronged him and his people. TES Orcs have always been a Berserk reference lmfao.
@@smuggrog9821 Dude, I really can't believe it took me so long
Dunno if it was already asked but what's the context behind the image at 49:24
Bro really got in the lab with this one ☝️
Great vid bro.😺
Hell yeah! I love me some poopy peoples.
Ohoo, so you're doing elder scrolls lore now? You're definitely chill enough to listen to for this sort of stuff. Other people are a bit too serious and your more casual tone is nice.
Im still doing fromsoft stuff as well, i havent played the new armored core but ive been replaying the souls games, i got a couple dark souls 3 videos coning up too
bit of a shame there weren't any Orsinium orcs in the Reach during Skyrim, I could see them being an important ally to the Reachfolk. They both live in the same vague region and suffer the same hardships as a result.
Uh, you got a source for the orcess in the thumbnail?
I only have but one question .. is the voice over that plays at the beginning and the very end Colm Meany? Engineer, Miles Edward O'Brian?
Yes. The one and only. Its his monologs from hell on wheels
Elder scrolls lore is always fire🔥 you think the redguard could be something to talk about?
You never hear much of that game. Heck I've heard of Daggerfall more than Redguard
Great video, what's the outro from and what mod is this you're talking about?
Bro where are the orc woman from the thumbnail 😤
fyi the timestamp is covering up the title in the thumbnail, at least on a computer
Fuck i just noticed it 10 months later,
LEEETTSS GGOOOOOOOOOOO💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
What was that intro? It was pretty damn compelling
hell on wheels from the great doc thomas durant
Me like long vid
Your in luck then, guy
I enjoy the video, however I believe you confused Vulfhearth or Wulfhearth for Pelinal when you called him a cyborg.
I probably did. I mix up names of historical badasses from time to time.
What was the ending dialogue from?
Sorry for the late reply buddy, its from hell on wheels
@@TheHonoredMadman Did you check out the new patchnotes? Looks like they tried optomizing things.
Where's the intro from ???
Hell on wheels
Orcs are neat.
bro.. an hour or orc's?
Lol i know. This shit was supposed to be a 7 min video on their lifespans but it turned into this
Malacath just seems like the latest and lamest of the Daedric princes and the same way he finds and claims artifacts he claims the Orcs- it's literally the best and only-est thing he's got going for him- not like any one else would worship him. So perhaps he's the greatest trickster god of them all.
more TES lore vids pls pls pls!!
I assumed that you dont see old orcs because of their way of life.
The love of war/fighting/hunting and the tribalism always seemed natural that you would see many elderly.
Booba
socioeconomic factors
⚠️ Warning ⚠️Thus video is highly opinionated
eso 🤮🤮🤮
Yeah i had to do a bunch of research and find clips because i hadnt played any of that lol.
@@TheHonoredMadman it is also just the worst, it and blades have some obsesion with recontuctualizing events and items to its detriment
Yeah i tend to ignore esos contributions to the lore as well c0da's but i didnt want to gloss over the orcs history in the second era, thats part of what took this so long is i had no idea they did an orsinium dlc, when i saw that i was like fuck
I kinda noticed bethesda has a bit of a habit of retconning events. Like how the empire handled the oblivion crisis.
High Elves are just better than you.
I mean i cant argue with it, its in their name
They're only high off sniffing their own farts, damn knife ears
Poo people
ESO is gay and should not be considered cannon.
You're gay and we should kiss
ARGONIAN LORE PLEASE