Maybe Uniqlo should conduct online polls about what graphics to place on their UT graphic T-shirts and have models to wear prototypes to reduce graphic T-shirt fatigue and to remove graphics that don't seem to look good when worn. Or maybe we should return to the 1940's UK clothes rationing system with the "Make Do and Mend" campaign to remind ourselves not to be wasteful towards clothing (not gonna happen).
And bigger brands like Nike are doing a lot of damage too. I think people are finally catching on to the fact their quality is bad because their stock has been plummeting and I haven't seen them be as influential as even a few years ago. It's sad to noticeably watch brands cheapen out, sometimes over a short period of time like Abercrombie. I swear after their rebrand a few years ago the quality was actually good. Went into their store a year ago and was shocked how terribly everything fit, and how all their clothes had loose stitching sticking out everywhere. Even mall brands wouldn't dare display items like that in the 2000's. These brands know that a lot of their customers just dont care and will throw this stuff out in less than a year.
Yes, in the sense that they buy all reviews. So that would encompass both the good and the bad. Source: I've purchased from Shein. I'm sorry, I needed a couple basic white shirts and my hours were recently cut. I plan to use them until they disintegrate. So it goes like this: they have a "point program" in which one point equates to 1 US cent, which can only be redeemed for purchases. You can get up to 17 points (17 cents) for posting a written review on an article of clothing. The point value is determined by the number of words written, and caps at 17. This is the same whether you're giving the item 1 or 5 stars. Additionally, you can post a picture of the piece, and other users can "like" your picture if they find it helpful. You then get 1 point per "like". This system incentivizes detailed written reviews and rewards users for modeling the clothing. It's been suggested that Shein may push photos attached to low-star reviews to the back. I don't fully buy into this, as photo reviews are sorted by the number of "likes" they've received, and I've seen plenty of 1 star reviews on the first page. I personally posted a low-star photo review that accumulated likes (and points) from other users. I don't think Shein is particularly precious about protecting their items with fake 5 star averages. I've noticed that when a new item is introduced, and the first few reviews average anything below a 4.5, they won't bother making more and will completely abandon the piece. Their business model is almost entirely algorithm-based, so they have incentive to crank out things that people want and like. The issue I've seen is that most users have no idea what constitutes a "quality" piece and will hand out 5 stars if it fits and doesn't fall apart out of the bag. Whether this is a better or worse model than other fast fashion brands is up to you. I just wanted to help clarify the point and "pay per review" system.
You continue to be my favorite fashion guy, both because of your outfits and the way you present information. I appreciate your transparency and the candid tone you always bring. It makes fashion feel more accessible to folks like me who don’t know all the the ins and outs
My wardrobe is basically a small array of vintage clothes from the 80/90s, either inherited or purchased at local market for few euros. When I get bored of something I own, I just sell it on Vinted. For how cheap and convenient might be, how smart could be owning like, 30+ polyester, poorly fitting shirts during summer knowing that you're gonna melt into them, and likely ending up tearing within weeks?
James thank you so much for making this video. I wasn’t anticipating one of your weekly vids to be this informative and interesting in such a completely different way! Please make more content on the dark side of fashion/clothing and how one can become an informed consumer/enthusiast! 🙏
This is a great video. You should also do another one showing the brands that are doing the completely opposite and being responsible with the environment and customers! :D
You have to look at the market Shein mostly caters to: Those living below minimum wage who cant afford clothes that are 100 dollars and up. Those people living in Asia, Africa and South America who has a monthly salary three times lower than the average monthly salary of people living in North America and Europe. My uncle is from Malaysia, a graduate of Marketing. he worked as a brand manager yet his monthly salary is 3 times lower than the monthly salary of a brand manager working in the UK. My uncle eventually moved to the USA where he is working as a delivery man and his salary is HIGHER than when he was a brand manager back in Malaysia. The people who buy Shein cant afford to buy luxury brands, to them Uniqlo and H&M are already VERY EXPENSIVE. That's why they buy Shein. Let's say a teenager from Asia or South America wants to b stylish, but they cant even afford to buy Uniqlo, they go buy Shein.
I get the point that James is making but I also get the point that you are making as well, I'm from South Africa and most people I know would consider brands like H&M to be on the expensive side, we don't even have brands like Uniqlo here, I personally don't use Shein but I understand why most people do.
I’m totally onboard with people buying within their means - that’s why I pointed it out at the beginning of the video. It’s the mega hauls of $800 for the sake of a TikTok video which I find disturbing, and then others being influenced to do that same thing because it’s so accessibly cheap. I can’t imagine someone who actually needs to buy cheaper clothing doing crazy hauls and throwing pieces away after 1-2 wears
I’ve been feeling this for a while, I don’t even want to buy overly synthetic clothes or anything “made in china” or any other country without a detailed description of the manufacturing. I went from buying clothes every week to maybe every few months. (also Uniqlo heattech is made out of 100% synthetic materials, shits overhyped/marketed garbage.)
Sadly I don't think theres anything you can do to make the average consumer care, all we can do is make noise and ask for legislation against destructive production processes and increased tariffs for chinese goods
@@JamesLeung 85% of the people in the UK cant afford the brands you like. My dad and mum buys Shein because they dont care about fashion, they care about financial stability and putting food on the table. Our generation cant control our wallets, Before the 2000s people /the commonfolk working class use to buy clothes just once or twice a year, these days teenagers with no disposable income buy clothes on a weekly basis. Our spending habits are terrible.
here in philippines, i can buy shein pullout for like $1-$3. love them all tho. all of my household clothes now are mostly from shein . also some of my outdoor wear are fron sumwon which is a really good clothing line of shein
It’s an interesting topic. I think the fashion dynamics has changed so much in the past decade and it’s really difficult to pick the best way to navigate. Before social media, we were more comfortable to wear the same clothes all the time as there was less pressure to change or to impress the ‘public’. Moreover, the prices for luxury items were more affordable back then. You can get a Prada winter jacket for just over £1000 but now it’s more likely to be 5-10x more expensive. £1000 could now get you only a Balenciaga T-shirt and their current quality isn’t much better as comparing with fast fashion from my point of view. Personally I don’t shop fast fashion because I don’t need to and I don’t want to but I can see why kids or teens or someone with less financial stability would see these fast fashion brands as their only options. Vintage is an alternative option but it’s not going to replace fast fashion on its own.
Yes well said. I am hoping the ‘quality’ brands will come more into focus for the younger generation. Appreciating true craftsmanship. It’s more expensive but worth it (in my opinion) as opposed to luxury brands which seem to be expensive for the sake of it
That amount of items and releases is crazy. The whole discussion about fast fashion in the last, say, ten+ years just pale in the face of this. Thanks for addressing this, man.
great video man. honestly ive never bought anything from shein or temu. when i started getting into fashion i used to shop a lot from h&m and zara, but now that ive been there for a bit i started loving the feeling of a well made item. unfortunatly my 16 self can't buy really expensive clothes, but for now the feeling of a vintage carhartt jean or simply a 100e hoodie is incredible. keep going man, youre doing great with these videos
Wow what a great vid, SO great that more and more people are waking up to these awfully ways of making and doing business. thanks for this vid , I did not know this. 🙏🏽
in the late 80s I worked for NEXT, it was Brilliant, changing the shop floor into Autumn-winter stock in August was Fab and a little warm, wool suits anyone, female staff were advised on hair and makeup , the lads on skin care and if they had good legs ,they could wear shorts. I worked in Oxford street and the oldest member of staff was probably 30. I still have shoes , ties and trousers all great Quality and Classics, shoes were made in Spain and Italy, Shame is , haven't been in one for 10 years
The quality of their clothing doesn’t actually match their tags, and is often found contaminated with lead (how? Idk) but independent research companies investigate their materials and find it’s often the cause for rashes and irritation on skin.
I thought the Perfect Union video was very low quality, poorly researched, and betrayed a lack of fundamental understanding of the fashion industry. First and foremost, Abercrombie during the 80s was a SPORTSMANS brand, not a mall brand. It was sold to a company called the Limited, who made it into a mall brand throughout the 90s after it became publicly traded. "Abercrombie" as you know it today is not even the same business because the one they're referencing in those ads was a name purchased by a completely separate entity after it filed for bankruptcy in the 70s. Different target demographic, different manufacturing/supply chain, different marketing, different business model, the only consistency was the name. As a consequence of the trade war with Japan, and Nixon's trade agreements with China, textile production in the US was killed by low cost overseas labor. It wasn't "oh these evil companies decided to make a buck". Throughout the 70s and 80s, as modeled by Nike and Phil Knight's business model in partnership with Tiger, the US market was seeded by people looking to distribute Japanese manufactured goods. With the trade war with Japan, that manufacturing moved to China. The manufacturing industries in the two countries were different--China scaled up textile production throughout the 90s and took advantage of its special tax status granted by Nixon's deal which allowed it to partner with mall stores, now more centralized chains made easier by public investment as they became publicly traded, and China could distribute its manufactured clothes. The entire time the people in the US were HAPPY to buy these things. In fact the denim industry in the US went through a crisis in the late 90s early 2000s where sales plummeted because people thought stretchy, polyester athletic wear was more comfortable. They added elastane to their jeans to COMPETE with popular active wear. It was 100% a reaction to consumer preferences. As a consequence every single denim textile mill in the US shut down, and 90% of the world's denim is now produced out of a few mills in China. The lack of understanding that companies are trying to make what they can sell to consumers, and the role international politics played in torpedoing domestic textile manufacturing, was VERY frustrating to watch. You know why you can't buy a US tanned leather jacket? Because our EPA policies make it impossible to start tanneries, and the labor to do the tanning is cheaper in China. So instead of sending our skins from slaughterhouses directly to a tannery next to it, we now ship the hides to China or India to get tanned. It's too expensive to pay an American to produce the leather. And no one is willing to buy a leather jacket made by entirely Americans because it's going to cost a thousand dollars.
The best denim mills are located in Japan, done on machines originally located in the US. The best the best shirt manufacturers are done on machines originally from the US, located in Japan and Germany. These products have a popular following that demand high quality goods. The masses however just want cheap, and don’t care about quality whatsoever. Clothing is crap, because most people don’t care. Denim is still made in the US, a simple google search away.
@@smalerider1727 you should look it up. There was a resurgence thanks to cottage industry basically but for a while after the mid 2000s there was no denim production. again as you pointed out, there was a movement to move manufacturing to japan. Japanese denim mills pride themselves on not having modernized, essentially, to current production capability. They didn't scale for manufacturing en masse, which is part of how the brands maintained quality and cult fame status.
It was Climate Town's video on fast fashion that made me steer away from it. Now I check the used market, then ethical/domestic brands, and then if I'm not seeing what I need, then I'll reluctantly buy cheap new clothing from the store. I would never buy clothes from companies like Temu or Shein. I'll still buy average low quality stuff used as it's still wearable, it's affordable, it doesn't contribute to demand for new clothes, and it stops more clothes from ending up in the landfill, at least for now. The local thrift store doesn't discriminate though, regardless of where the clothes came from, they'll all be given the same price. You can get really nice stuff for just a few dollars.
I think one of the reasons why people buy fast fashion is because people most likely would get bored of the garment after a few wears, and they can stomach the fact that they only paid $20 instead of $200 for that piece of clothing.
If something is cheaper it means someone is paying for it down at the production like..... I felt that because I used to work for a well known brand and towards every end of season just before their sale they'll cut employees hours so bad, makes less people on a shift with more work to do
Great video. It would be good if you could detail fabric and where made in your videos. People need to be educated that paying a little more and buying a bit less will equal out.
I think "cost per wear" is a bad metric because so many once-renowned brands like Levis still charge €120 for a pair of jeans, even though the quality has gone to shit. Or brands like Birkenstocks that do good open toe shoes, but whose boots are priced as if they last a lifetime but are just glue and cardboard construction (with details like outer trims that make them look like they have a welted construction- specifically trying to trick the consumer). Even Allen Edmond boots have recently cut corners and sacrificed quality. Allen Edmonds; the footwear company famous for quality- even they're lost. There's no brand honour, so it's really hard to get it right. And second hand and vintage markets no longer have genuine vintage items... they just sell second hand modern clothes, often with a vintage aesthetic, which Zara and the likes are pumping out all the time nowadays. So a "vintage" jean is really just a four year old H&M. The facts are as well that consumers actually already do spend a lot of money on clothes, just they buy large numbers of low quality consumeristic crap. So average consumers, even on relatively low incomes, can afford higher quality items, if they merely purchase fewer of them. I think it's just really hard to know that you're getting quality. Many brands that advertise themselves as quality, and which manufacture their garments in OECD countries, like Octobre, might use yarns for some or even many of their products that are low quality with short average fibre lengths, produced from cotton in unethical Pakistani farms. There's no trust, no honour, no pride in quality, just trickery and marketing. So you kind of need to research how clothes are constructed and only purchase from brands who provide huge detail in their manufacturing methods and materials sourcing. Asket is a good example.
Great video! I think if the person is poor, they should stick to sales and learning how and when to participate in the best sales from good brands. Even Gap and Uniqlo have a fan base that have figured out their sales plan for the year. Sometimes buying 2nd hand in the US is difficult because it’s the same price as buying on sale items as Old navy, Gap, or Uniqlo. I’ve almost pulled the trigger on SHEIN and Forever 21 for work clothing, but have learned through trial and error their shit usually isn’t worth it and doesn’t last. Sometimes, the “higher quality” stuff doesn’t last either, so taking advantage of googling a companies sales marketing plan, eBay, Grailed, Nordstrom rack, TJ maxx, and some 2nd hand shopping has really paid off. I’m getting to the point where I’m mostly buying quality stuff without the huge impact of slavery clothing. At least, I hope. That’s all worked for me so far. 😅
Years ago when SHEIN was in the spotlight, there was a wave of media coverage. And after that everyone moved on to the next outrage. Sadly now SHEIN operates under the radar with record revenue growth each year. I’m glad some people still try to bring up this topic to remind everyone of this ongoing issue.
I'm pretty sure their target market is third world Asian countries. I know here in the Philippines, Shein is incredibly popular because of how cheap they are. It's a shame because most of these people are in poverty.
100% with you. You motivated me to start doing something with my social media too. I also love fashion, but I have learned we need to be creative also up cycling, etc. Great job!
I have been liaising with Shein about design exploitation, I was a designer, ( not any more there's no point) shein will not tell me why they are selling conflicting designs and who is supplying them. They have been dragging out settlement since 2021 and seen using more conflicting designs that I believe belong to me!
The fact that SHEIN and Temu are thriving is the ultimate proof how most people are narcissistic and consumerist to a decadent level. It will always be better to buy one single expensive but BIFL item than hundreds of disposable ones just to feel you’re hauling. I find Temu’s motto: “shop like a billionaire” particularly insulting, cynic and damaging.
This is so distasteful, I don't even know where to begin. I'm not the target market for this trash anyway, but I would never. I have a small wardrobe, mostly vintage.
this statement is a bit classist. If you are wearing clothes that are made well=you are higher class and if you are wearing clothes made by Shein=you are lower class.
I have a very different opinion regarding Shein. I have personally bought 3 huge carts from them this year and that's about over 35 plus items. From those items there's only 2 that don't fit and I should have checked the measurements before buying. Either then, the quality is exactly what you pay for. Let's not act like Shein charges a premium for their clothing. You get what you pay for. Unlike your favorite brands like Levis and others who have dropped in quality yet still charge a premium price if say Shein is better. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.
I encourage you to broaden your knowledge. Visit Asia. Visit Vietnam, Indonesia, China, Japan, India, South Korea and see, learn how people make a living in those countries. From what I know, the products sold by Shein is from small businesses all across Asia. It's from different vendors who makes clothes. Shein has helped tons of families make a living. I read from the comments that you agree that the UK should charge higher tariffs from goods coming from China, that's a bit short sighted, ignorant to borderline oppressive. Asia is the factory of the world. It isnt just clothes from Shein that's made in Asia. The smartphone that you own? It's made and assembled in Asia, The majority of everyday household appliances that you see in British households is made in Asia, the majority of furniture in the UK comes from Asia, from China. the majority of medical health professionals that work in the UK comes from Asian countries. And how are you sure they're not taking care of the environment and what they do isn't moral? Have you seen it with your own eyes or did you just hear it from the news? We in the West like to preach to East that they're doing things wrong and we're always right, the USA and the UK are the most decent countries while Asian countries like oppressing their people. Yet in reality, the safest countries on earth are mostly countries in Asia: Japan, Singapore, China. Go visit Asia, it will change your perspective on things.
Their clothes look kind of crap tbh and don't seem like what you'd wear. Well now you find a lot of made in Bangladesh, China and Pakistan. There are still companies using good quality materials, but you have to spend beaucoup ££££ to own them. Sometimes, I think these respected and heritage brands are taking the p when they sell basic items for hundreds.
@@JamesLeung Well, if you look att the bottom part of the pyramid (in the The onion video), sadly, Uniqlo is there. Compared with Shein, yes, they are better, but they are still a fast fashion brand.
I listened to Ashley Weston and bought Coofandy clothes and holy crap that quality did not even last 6 months! I immediately unsubscribed to her channel. I am now spending more money to make sure I get good quality clothes!
The thing about wearing extremely cheaply-manufactured clothing; is it just me, or does it *look* extremely cheap and nasty? Don't get why people would go for that personally, I don't see what enjoyment they could derive from donning fits composed from such cheaply made items made from such inferior quality fabrics. Then of course there's the (socio-)environmental impact of consuming so much stuff. Craazy. . . .
Very true. Whenever I wear cheap clothing in the past no one wants to know where it’s from. If I wear something quality people can usually tell and are interested in it
Yeah capitalism in a nutshell. Doesn't just affect clothing. Every other industry has the same kind of effect. Make stuff that breaks quickly. So they can keep on selling. On that note, instead of sponsorships, have you ever thought about starting your own clothing brand? Feels like majority of us that follow you is because we love your taste, and we would probably also buy some of your things. At least that's what I do nowadays: either buy vintage or content creators specific brands
Exactly! Such a sad state of affairs. Man I would absolutely love to sell my own stuff but I don’t even know where to start. It’s certainly an ambition of mine though!
The content of your videos are always very relevant. Your information is relevant especially in this crazy and sometimes depressing fashion world. Thank you for your thought provoking video 👍
Still don't understand why TH-camr wont stop saying : oh no polyester is bad but when its comes to Uniqlo they won't say anything, they use insane amount of polyester
If people want to buy cheap stuff let them. Saying somewhere down the chain people are getting exploited when so many established brands have been caught over the years and still are using sweatshop laborers is hypocritical . Fast fashion is here to stay, that the reality and no amount of virtue signaling is going to change that. The world we live is capitalistic with has no moral compass by desgin.
wonderful vid. as always shame the big corps and NOT the consumers some ppl arent well off to afford a marz b shirt and they deserve a style outlet in life. shein might be all they can afford.
Your argument is valid however you are not seeing the bigger picture and your comments made you look a bit classist. Shein is a brand for the masses. For those who want to look good without paying a premium for clothes. It is sad that premium and quality clothes = you are higher class and poorly made clothes = you are lower class. I know you didn't mean to sound snobby and classist. I think it is because you don't see the bigger picture of why Shein is the way they are. You also said that people who created clothes for Shein work in poor conditions. First, how do you know that? have you ever stepped inside a factory? Second, clothes sold by Shein are also sold by Amazon, yet you don't criticize Amazon. Third, there are a lot of people in Asia and the money in the pot is scarce. Shein is made in countries like China, India, Vietnam and Southeast Asia, they get paid less because that's the system the world has. I can get into geopolitics and the history of colonialism and USA's hegemony, but that's a topic for another time.
might be a dumb question but why don't you just accept the sponsorship, showcase the products and tell us how bad they are? they will for sure leave you alone after that
Shein will continue to be successful. Why? Because of their target market. Asians Here is the bigger picture: There are 7.8 Billion people in the world, 4.8 Billion ARE ASIANS. They are actually the majority race. There are 1.4 Billion people in China and 1.5 Billion people in India. This is Shein's target market. They can do fine without Europe or the USA. Europe and the USA might be richer place, but in Asia there's a lot of people. Most global brands know this too. Where is Nike's BIGGEST market at? It's not in the USA, USA only holds 9 percent of the world and it's certainly not Europe. Europe is so tiny. Even Australia is bigger than the whole continent of Europe. Nike's BIGGEST target market is in Asia. Uniqlo, H&M, Zara, Foot locker's biggest market is in Asia. Think about it: Why is hollywood suddenly catering to Asians? Why does Disney put up one Asian themed movie after another? Because Asia is where the majority audience is. Look at how Anime is beating American comics (DC and Marvel), K-dramas and Kpop are slowly beating Hollywood. This is why from a business standpoint, Shein actually wins. If you look at Western world too, in the USA and Europe,slowly but surely there will be a lot more Asians. Your PM in the UK is Asian. Your surname is Leung, so must be half Asian, right?
Ummm 40% of Shein’s user base are from the US, followed by Brazil, France, Spain and Canada. None of them are Asian countries. K drama and anime being more popular isn’t because Asia has the largest population. Asian people watch Hollywood and read western comic too.
@@ntw9677yt People in the US and Europe are struggling financially, that's why they buy the most affordable options for clothing. Especially for their kids. Kids still grow, so why waste money on clothing that your children is just going to use for 1-2 years?
@@ntw9677yt I did a quick research and American and European brands are failing to keep up with Asian brands. Asian brands are steadily rising up since the 2010's and beating western brands actually.
you have 94.4k subscribers, I bet 70% of them watch your videos as a styling guide then they buy from brands like Shein because they just dont have that disposable income to buy those brands that you buy. They dont have rich parents, most live from paycheck to paycheck. That's reality, James. If high end brands want to beat Shein, then they should lower their prices. How great would it be if you can buy a good quality t-shirt and pants for just under 15 dollars...
here in america we work two jobs just to be able to cover insurance, rent, food. Shein is the only option for us to buy new clothes (or look "trendy") without being broke. these fashion influencers should really go out and touch some grass.
lol, it's so random from my experiences with SHEIN many years, some good , some bad in the same product such as workmanship, the fabric quality.. for honestly it's having a fews real good quality on their site, most of them i can say about 80-90 percent are bad to trash
Great video man! That’s crazy that Shein do that with their reviews!
Thanks Harry! Yeah it should be illegal honestly!
Maybe Uniqlo should conduct online polls about what graphics to place on their UT graphic T-shirts and have models to wear prototypes to reduce graphic T-shirt fatigue and to remove graphics that don't seem to look good when worn. Or maybe we should return to the 1940's UK clothes rationing system with the "Make Do and Mend" campaign to remind ourselves not to be wasteful towards clothing (not gonna happen).
That’s such a good idea! I’m beginning to go back to that 1940s mentality, repaired are less wasteful and clothes look better in my opinion!
Companies like SHEIN and Temu are destroying the planet. This was a fantastic video. All of your videos are awesome. Thank you!
Absolutely! Thanks so much 🙏
Yeah lets blame the Chinese companies, while CocaCola and Nestle have been terrible for years when it comes to the planet. Comes off a bit racist.
Love that you spoke on this! I report them as spam every time they reach out 😂
Hahaha, I’m going to start doing that as well! 🙌🤣
And bigger brands like Nike are doing a lot of damage too. I think people are finally catching on to the fact their quality is bad because their stock has been plummeting and I haven't seen them be as influential as even a few years ago. It's sad to noticeably watch brands cheapen out, sometimes over a short period of time like Abercrombie. I swear after their rebrand a few years ago the quality was actually good. Went into their store a year ago and was shocked how terribly everything fit, and how all their clothes had loose stitching sticking out everywhere. Even mall brands wouldn't dare display items like that in the 2000's. These brands know that a lot of their customers just dont care and will throw this stuff out in less than a year.
Very true. The big brands are becoming some of the worst because they can get away with it
Abercrombie is nearly all "Fake Vintage" stuff now
So Shein is basically buying your positive reviews.
Yep exactly. Fake reviews should be illegal!
Yes, in the sense that they buy all reviews. So that would encompass both the good and the bad.
Source: I've purchased from Shein. I'm sorry, I needed a couple basic white shirts and my hours were recently cut. I plan to use them until they disintegrate.
So it goes like this: they have a "point program" in which one point equates to 1 US cent, which can only be redeemed for purchases.
You can get up to 17 points (17 cents) for posting a written review on an article of clothing. The point value is determined by the number of words written, and caps at 17. This is the same whether you're giving the item 1 or 5 stars.
Additionally, you can post a picture of the piece, and other users can "like" your picture if they find it helpful.
You then get 1 point per "like".
This system incentivizes
detailed written reviews and rewards users for modeling the clothing.
It's been suggested that Shein may push photos attached to low-star reviews to the back.
I don't fully buy into this, as photo reviews are sorted by the number of "likes" they've received, and I've seen plenty of 1 star reviews on the first page.
I personally posted a low-star photo review that accumulated likes (and points) from other users.
I don't think Shein is particularly precious about protecting their items with fake 5 star averages.
I've noticed that when a new item is introduced, and the first few reviews average anything below a 4.5, they won't bother making more and will completely abandon the piece.
Their business model is almost entirely algorithm-based, so they have incentive to crank out things that people want and like.
The issue I've seen is that most users have no idea what constitutes a "quality" piece and will hand out 5 stars if it fits and doesn't fall apart out of the bag.
Whether this is a better or worse model than other fast fashion brands is up to you.
I just wanted to help clarify the point and "pay per review" system.
You continue to be my favorite fashion guy, both because of your outfits and the way you present information. I appreciate your transparency and the candid tone you always bring. It makes fashion feel more accessible to folks like me who don’t know all the the ins and outs
Thanks so much man! Glad it helps
My wardrobe is basically a small array of vintage clothes from the 80/90s, either inherited or purchased at local market for few euros. When I get bored of something I own, I just sell it on Vinted. For how cheap and convenient might be, how smart could be owning like, 30+ polyester, poorly fitting shirts during summer knowing that you're gonna melt into them, and likely ending up tearing within weeks?
I basically do the same as you!
Hats off, your analysis made me admire your channel even more! All the best and keep up the great work
Thank you brother!!
James thank you so much for making this video. I wasn’t anticipating one of your weekly vids to be this informative and interesting in such a completely different way! Please make more content on the dark side of fashion/clothing and how one can become an informed consumer/enthusiast! 🙏
This is a great video. You should also do another one showing the brands that are doing the completely opposite and being responsible with the environment and customers! :D
Great idea!!
You have to look at the market Shein mostly caters to: Those living below minimum wage who cant afford clothes that are 100 dollars and up. Those people living in Asia, Africa and South America who has a monthly salary three times lower than the average monthly salary of people living in North America and Europe. My uncle is from Malaysia, a graduate of Marketing. he worked as a brand manager yet his monthly salary is 3 times lower than the monthly salary of a brand manager working in the UK. My uncle eventually moved to the USA where he is working as a delivery man and his salary is HIGHER than when he was a brand manager back in Malaysia. The people who buy Shein cant afford to buy luxury brands, to them Uniqlo and H&M are already VERY EXPENSIVE. That's why they buy Shein. Let's say a teenager from Asia or South America wants to b stylish, but they cant even afford to buy Uniqlo, they go buy Shein.
I get the point that James is making but I also get the point that you are making as well, I'm from South Africa and most people I know would consider brands like H&M to be on the expensive side, we don't even have brands like Uniqlo here, I personally don't use Shein but I understand why most people do.
I’m totally onboard with people buying within their means - that’s why I pointed it out at the beginning of the video. It’s the mega hauls of $800 for the sake of a TikTok video which I find disturbing, and then others being influenced to do that same thing because it’s so accessibly cheap. I can’t imagine someone who actually needs to buy cheaper clothing doing crazy hauls and throwing pieces away after 1-2 wears
I’ve been feeling this for a while, I don’t even want to buy overly synthetic clothes or anything “made in china” or any other country without a detailed description of the manufacturing. I went from buying clothes every week to maybe every few months. (also Uniqlo heattech is made out of 100% synthetic materials, shits overhyped/marketed garbage.)
I hardly buy anything these days unless it’s vintage or a piece I’ve been liking for a while and it’s on sale! Feels so much better haha
@@JamesLeung agreed 🤝🏽
Sadly I don't think theres anything you can do to make the average consumer care, all we can do is make noise and ask for legislation against destructive production processes and increased tariffs for chinese goods
Hopefully that happens sooner rather than later! 🙏
@@JamesLeung 85% of the people in the UK cant afford the brands you like. My dad and mum buys Shein because they dont care about fashion, they care about financial stability and putting food on the table. Our generation cant control our wallets, Before the 2000s people /the commonfolk working class use to buy clothes just once or twice a year, these days teenagers with no disposable income buy clothes on a weekly basis. Our spending habits are terrible.
here in philippines, i can buy shein pullout for like $1-$3. love them all tho. all of my household clothes now are mostly from shein . also some of my outdoor wear are fron sumwon which is a really good clothing line of shein
I respect u more than TH-camr men’s fashioner. Keep up the good work and always stay real.
Thank you bro!
It’s an interesting topic. I think the fashion dynamics has changed so much in the past decade and it’s really difficult to pick the best way to navigate. Before social media, we were more comfortable to wear the same clothes all the time as there was less pressure to change or to impress the ‘public’. Moreover, the prices for luxury items were more affordable back then. You can get a Prada winter jacket for just over £1000 but now it’s more likely to be 5-10x more expensive. £1000 could now get you only a Balenciaga T-shirt and their current quality isn’t much better as comparing with fast fashion from my point of view. Personally I don’t shop fast fashion because I don’t need to and I don’t want to but I can see why kids or teens or someone with less financial stability would see these fast fashion brands as their only options. Vintage is an alternative option but it’s not going to replace fast fashion on its own.
Yes well said. I am hoping the ‘quality’ brands will come more into focus for the younger generation. Appreciating true craftsmanship. It’s more expensive but worth it (in my opinion) as opposed to luxury brands which seem to be expensive for the sake of it
Off topic, but the choice of music was so nostalgic to me. I really appreciate it!
Ahh glad you liked it! I had fun choosing the music for this!
That amount of items and releases is crazy. The whole discussion about fast fashion in the last, say, ten+ years just pale in the face of this. Thanks for addressing this, man.
Yeah it feels like nothing will stop the wheels turning, but we have to try!
great video man. honestly ive never bought anything from shein or temu. when i started getting into fashion i used to shop a lot from h&m and zara, but now that ive been there for a bit i started loving the feeling of a well made item. unfortunatly my 16 self can't buy really expensive clothes, but for now the feeling of a vintage carhartt jean or simply a 100e hoodie is incredible. keep going man, youre doing great with these videos
Great that you’ve gotten into better quality clothing at 16. I didn’t start until later, you obviously have a good head on you! 👍
Wow what a great vid, SO great that more and more people are waking up to these awfully ways of making and doing business. thanks for this vid , I did not know this. 🙏🏽
in the late 80s I worked for NEXT, it was Brilliant, changing the shop floor into Autumn-winter stock in August was Fab and a little warm, wool suits anyone, female staff were advised on hair and makeup , the lads on skin care and if they had good legs ,they could wear shorts. I worked in Oxford street and the oldest member of staff was probably 30. I still have shoes , ties and trousers all great Quality and Classics, shoes were made in Spain and Italy, Shame is , haven't been in one for 10 years
The quality of their clothing doesn’t actually match their tags, and is often found contaminated with lead (how? Idk) but independent research companies investigate their materials and find it’s often the cause for rashes and irritation on skin.
That’s wild!!
I thought the Perfect Union video was very low quality, poorly researched, and betrayed a lack of fundamental understanding of the fashion industry. First and foremost, Abercrombie during the 80s was a SPORTSMANS brand, not a mall brand. It was sold to a company called the Limited, who made it into a mall brand throughout the 90s after it became publicly traded. "Abercrombie" as you know it today is not even the same business because the one they're referencing in those ads was a name purchased by a completely separate entity after it filed for bankruptcy in the 70s. Different target demographic, different manufacturing/supply chain, different marketing, different business model, the only consistency was the name.
As a consequence of the trade war with Japan, and Nixon's trade agreements with China, textile production in the US was killed by low cost overseas labor. It wasn't "oh these evil companies decided to make a buck". Throughout the 70s and 80s, as modeled by Nike and Phil Knight's business model in partnership with Tiger, the US market was seeded by people looking to distribute Japanese manufactured goods. With the trade war with Japan, that manufacturing moved to China. The manufacturing industries in the two countries were different--China scaled up textile production throughout the 90s and took advantage of its special tax status granted by Nixon's deal which allowed it to partner with mall stores, now more centralized chains made easier by public investment as they became publicly traded, and China could distribute its manufactured clothes. The entire time the people in the US were HAPPY to buy these things. In fact the denim industry in the US went through a crisis in the late 90s early 2000s where sales plummeted because people thought stretchy, polyester athletic wear was more comfortable. They added elastane to their jeans to COMPETE with popular active wear. It was 100% a reaction to consumer preferences. As a consequence every single denim textile mill in the US shut down, and 90% of the world's denim is now produced out of a few mills in China. The lack of understanding that companies are trying to make what they can sell to consumers, and the role international politics played in torpedoing domestic textile manufacturing, was VERY frustrating to watch.
You know why you can't buy a US tanned leather jacket? Because our EPA policies make it impossible to start tanneries, and the labor to do the tanning is cheaper in China. So instead of sending our skins from slaughterhouses directly to a tannery next to it, we now ship the hides to China or India to get tanned. It's too expensive to pay an American to produce the leather. And no one is willing to buy a leather jacket made by entirely Americans because it's going to cost a thousand dollars.
The best denim mills are located in Japan, done on machines originally located in the US. The best the best shirt manufacturers are done on machines originally from the US, located in Japan and Germany. These products have a popular following that demand high quality goods.
The masses however just want cheap, and don’t care about quality whatsoever. Clothing is crap, because most people don’t care.
Denim is still made in the US, a simple google search away.
@@smalerider1727 you should look it up. There was a resurgence thanks to cottage industry basically but for a while after the mid 2000s there was no denim production. again as you pointed out, there was a movement to move manufacturing to japan. Japanese denim mills pride themselves on not having modernized, essentially, to current production capability. They didn't scale for manufacturing en masse, which is part of how the brands maintained quality and cult fame status.
Not defending "Fast Fashion" but IMO Primarks quality has gone up from what it was a few years back
It was Climate Town's video on fast fashion that made me steer away from it. Now I check the used market, then ethical/domestic brands, and then if I'm not seeing what I need, then I'll reluctantly buy cheap new clothing from the store. I would never buy clothes from companies like Temu or Shein. I'll still buy average low quality stuff used as it's still wearable, it's affordable, it doesn't contribute to demand for new clothes, and it stops more clothes from ending up in the landfill, at least for now. The local thrift store doesn't discriminate though, regardless of where the clothes came from, they'll all be given the same price. You can get really nice stuff for just a few dollars.
I’m totally with you, I do exactly the same!
I think one of the reasons why people buy fast fashion is because people most likely would get bored of the garment after a few wears, and they can stomach the fact that they only paid $20 instead of $200 for that piece of clothing.
Yep definitely! I guess if you’re not sure on your personal style then it’s difficult to commit to spending money on something good
If something is cheaper it means someone is paying for it down at the production like..... I felt that because I used to work for a well known brand and towards every end of season just before their sale they'll cut employees hours so bad, makes less people on a shift with more work to do
That sucks man, it’s crazy how bad people are treated!!
Fantastic video, James. I always appreciate how authentic you are and your perspective.
Thanks as always mate 🙏
Great video. It would be good if you could detail fabric and where made in your videos. People need to be educated that paying a little more and buying a bit less will equal out.
Yes shoulda added that for sure! 👍
I think "cost per wear" is a bad metric because so many once-renowned brands like Levis still charge €120 for a pair of jeans, even though the quality has gone to shit. Or brands like Birkenstocks that do good open toe shoes, but whose boots are priced as if they last a lifetime but are just glue and cardboard construction (with details like outer trims that make them look like they have a welted construction- specifically trying to trick the consumer). Even Allen Edmond boots have recently cut corners and sacrificed quality. Allen Edmonds; the footwear company famous for quality- even they're lost. There's no brand honour, so it's really hard to get it right. And second hand and vintage markets no longer have genuine vintage items... they just sell second hand modern clothes, often with a vintage aesthetic, which Zara and the likes are pumping out all the time nowadays. So a "vintage" jean is really just a four year old H&M.
The facts are as well that consumers actually already do spend a lot of money on clothes, just they buy large numbers of low quality consumeristic crap. So average consumers, even on relatively low incomes, can afford higher quality items, if they merely purchase fewer of them. I think it's just really hard to know that you're getting quality. Many brands that advertise themselves as quality, and which manufacture their garments in OECD countries, like Octobre, might use yarns for some or even many of their products that are low quality with short average fibre lengths, produced from cotton in unethical Pakistani farms. There's no trust, no honour, no pride in quality, just trickery and marketing. So you kind of need to research how clothes are constructed and only purchase from brands who provide huge detail in their manufacturing methods and materials sourcing. Asket is a good example.
Great video! I think if the person is poor, they should stick to sales and learning how and when to participate in the best sales from good brands. Even Gap and Uniqlo have a fan base that have figured out their sales plan for the year. Sometimes buying 2nd hand in the US is difficult because it’s the same price as buying on sale items as Old navy, Gap, or Uniqlo.
I’ve almost pulled the trigger on SHEIN and Forever 21 for work clothing, but have learned through trial and error their shit usually isn’t worth it and doesn’t last.
Sometimes, the “higher quality” stuff doesn’t last either, so taking advantage of googling a companies sales marketing plan, eBay, Grailed, Nordstrom rack, TJ maxx, and some 2nd hand shopping has really paid off.
I’m getting to the point where I’m mostly buying quality stuff without the huge impact of slavery clothing. At least, I hope.
That’s all worked for me so far. 😅
Good stuff man 👊 I stick to higher quality when I can but always wait for a sale. Otherwise I’ll try find vintage or second hand!
Years ago when SHEIN was in the spotlight, there was a wave of media coverage. And after that everyone moved on to the next outrage. Sadly now SHEIN operates under the radar with record revenue growth each year. I’m glad some people still try to bring up this topic to remind everyone of this ongoing issue.
Yes they’ve definitely flown under the radar!
Really sensitively and articulately presented James, thanks very much! This super-fast and unethical fashion movement scares me a little!
Same, it’s terrifying when you look into it! Thanks for watching
I'm pretty sure their target market is third world Asian countries. I know here in the Philippines, Shein is incredibly popular because of how cheap they are. It's a shame because most of these people are in poverty.
Is the boot paradox, they end up spending more because it’s cheap clothing
100% with you. You motivated me to start doing something with my social media too. I also love fashion, but I have learned we need to be creative also up cycling, etc.
Great job!
Love to hear it, thanks for watching!
I have been liaising with Shein about design exploitation, I was a designer, ( not any more there's no point) shein will not tell me why they are selling conflicting designs and who is supplying them. They have been dragging out settlement since 2021 and seen using more conflicting designs that I believe belong to me!
Loved this James! I'm guilty of ordering from Shein a few years back and I wish I never wasted my money. Keep up the good work, dear! ✌🏻
Same here man! Thank you!
Very Nice vid!
What s the Name of the t shirt you wearing in the Video btw?
Thanks! It’s the COS mock neck t shirt
Why are shein offering deals you pay for postage and get told that it is not been delivered as you need to make another payment this is not acceptable
That's why I didn't buy Shein items or even in the thrift store
Same, I wouldn’t even take them for free 🤣
The fact that SHEIN and Temu are thriving is the ultimate proof how most people are narcissistic and consumerist to a decadent level. It will always be better to buy one single expensive but BIFL item than hundreds of disposable ones just to feel you’re hauling.
I find Temu’s motto: “shop like a billionaire” particularly insulting, cynic and damaging.
Agree with all of this 💯
Another good video James. Have a good day. ✌️
Thank you mate!
Ironically, TH-cam has showed me a Shein ad before this video
This is so distasteful, I don't even know where to begin. I'm not the target market for this trash anyway, but I would never. I have a small wardrobe, mostly vintage.
There was a point where I almost bought into it but thankfully I took a step back and now I think it’s horrific!
Shein is so low rent. A friend bought a dress for a wedding and paid $34.00... it was in the garbage can that night.
It’s crazy to think of one-wear items!
@JamesLeung Indeed. I told her to go to TJ Maxx next time. It's not couture, but better value than Shein.
this statement is a bit classist. If you are wearing clothes that are made well=you are higher class and if you are wearing clothes made by Shein=you are lower class.
I have a very different opinion regarding Shein. I have personally bought 3 huge carts from them this year and that's about over 35 plus items. From those items there's only 2 that don't fit and I should have checked the measurements before buying. Either then, the quality is exactly what you pay for. Let's not act like Shein charges a premium for their clothing. You get what you pay for. Unlike your favorite brands like Levis and others who have dropped in quality yet still charge a premium price if say Shein is better. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.
I encourage you to broaden your knowledge. Visit Asia. Visit Vietnam, Indonesia, China, Japan, India, South Korea and see, learn how people make a living in those countries. From what I know, the products sold by Shein is from small businesses all across Asia. It's from different vendors who makes clothes. Shein has helped tons of families make a living. I read from the comments that you agree that the UK should charge higher tariffs from goods coming from China, that's a bit short sighted, ignorant to borderline oppressive. Asia is the factory of the world. It isnt just clothes from Shein that's made in Asia. The smartphone that you own? It's made and assembled in Asia, The majority of everyday household appliances that you see in British households is made in Asia, the majority of furniture in the UK comes from Asia, from China. the majority of medical health professionals that work in the UK comes from Asian countries. And how are you sure they're not taking care of the environment and what they do isn't moral? Have you seen it with your own eyes or did you just hear it from the news? We in the West like to preach to East that they're doing things wrong and we're always right, the USA and the UK are the most decent countries while Asian countries like oppressing their people. Yet in reality, the safest countries on earth are mostly countries in Asia: Japan, Singapore, China. Go visit Asia, it will change your perspective on things.
Great video James. Keep it up! 👍
Thank you!
Their clothes look kind of crap tbh and don't seem like what you'd wear. Well now you find a lot of made in Bangladesh, China and Pakistan. There are still companies using good quality materials, but you have to spend beaucoup ££££ to own them. Sometimes, I think these respected and heritage brands are taking the p when they sell basic items for hundreds.
Is uniqlo still good?
Top tier
They’re alright. I felt their supima cotton shirts were really light weight but not worth the hype
I’ve been happy with everything I’ve got from them recently, noticeably better than most high street brands 👍
@@JamesLeung Well, if you look att the bottom part of the pyramid (in the The onion video), sadly, Uniqlo is there.
Compared with Shein, yes, they are better, but they are still a fast fashion brand.
Well done James, this needed to be said!!! 👏👏
Thank you!! 🙏
can you do dedicated accessories video
I listened to Ashley Weston and bought Coofandy clothes and holy crap that quality did not even last 6 months! I immediately unsubscribed to her channel. I am now spending more money to make sure I get good quality clothes!
You can just tell by the sound of the name that it’s going to be bad haha! Glad it put you on a better path 🙌
The thing about wearing extremely cheaply-manufactured clothing; is it just me, or does it *look* extremely cheap and nasty? Don't get why people would go for that personally, I don't see what enjoyment they could derive from donning fits composed from such cheaply made items made from such inferior quality fabrics. Then of course there's the (socio-)environmental impact of consuming so much stuff. Craazy. . . .
Very true. Whenever I wear cheap clothing in the past no one wants to know where it’s from. If I wear something quality people can usually tell and are interested in it
Yeah capitalism in a nutshell. Doesn't just affect clothing. Every other industry has the same kind of effect. Make stuff that breaks quickly. So they can keep on selling.
On that note, instead of sponsorships, have you ever thought about starting your own clothing brand? Feels like majority of us that follow you is because we love your taste, and we would probably also buy some of your things.
At least that's what I do nowadays: either buy vintage or content creators specific brands
Exactly! Such a sad state of affairs. Man I would absolutely love to sell my own stuff but I don’t even know where to start. It’s certainly an ambition of mine though!
I got an ad for Shein on this vid lol
No way! 😭
Thanks for using your influence to educate people on making wiser shopping decisions.
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Shalom! brother.
T shirt ID?
COS mock neck 👍
The content of your videos are always very relevant. Your information is relevant especially in this crazy and sometimes depressing fashion world. Thank you for your thought provoking video 👍
Thank you man I’m glad you liked it!
I find boohoo most of the stuff on their is shit quality buttons fall off jeans after one use. Tops shrinking like about 3 inches after one wash
Yeah I tried boohoo once, never again! Absolutely terrible!
Still don't understand why TH-camr wont stop saying : oh no polyester is bad but when its comes to Uniqlo they won't say anything, they use insane amount of polyester
I don’t mind polyester when it’s used for a reason (eg quick dry clothing). But a lot of brands use it in place of cotton because it’s a lot cheaper.
@@JamesLeung why would you defend the use of polyester in the pleated trousers or airsm t?
Surely agreed!
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If people want to buy cheap stuff let them. Saying somewhere down the chain people are getting exploited when so many established brands have been caught over the years and still are using sweatshop laborers is hypocritical . Fast fashion is here to stay, that the reality and no amount of virtue signaling is going to change that. The world we live is capitalistic with has no moral compass by desgin.
Excellent video! I'll pay extra for clothing that is made sustainably and humanely.
Same here! Thanks for watching
first thing i got when i clicked on this is a shein ad
Noooo way really 🤣
YKK for life 🏄🏻♂️
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Nothing, not just clothes, seem to be made to last these days.
So true
wonderful vid. as always shame the big corps and NOT the consumers some ppl arent well off to afford a marz b shirt and they deserve a style outlet in life. shein might be all they can afford.
Thanks 🙏 yeah it’s important to remember that for sure
What a brilliant video,cheers.
Thank you! 🙏
Another great video from (fashion influencer name) 🔥
This vid got you one more subscriber 😊
Thank you!!
Your argument is valid however you are not seeing the bigger picture and your comments made you look a bit classist. Shein is a brand for the masses. For those who want to look good without paying a premium for clothes. It is sad that premium and quality clothes = you are higher class and poorly made clothes = you are lower class. I know you didn't mean to sound snobby and classist. I think it is because you don't see the bigger picture of why Shein is the way they are. You also said that people who created clothes for Shein work in poor conditions. First, how do you know that? have you ever stepped inside a factory? Second, clothes sold by Shein are also sold by Amazon, yet you don't criticize Amazon. Third, there are a lot of people in Asia and the money in the pot is scarce. Shein is made in countries like China, India, Vietnam and Southeast Asia, they get paid less because that's the system the world has. I can get into geopolitics and the history of colonialism and USA's hegemony, but that's a topic for another time.
love your videos!
Thank you bro!
Good video mate👍
might be a dumb question but why don't you just accept the sponsorship, showcase the products and tell us how bad they are?
they will for sure leave you alone after that
Haha, I mean it’s a good idea to be honest!!
The only motive i don't buy on shien its because of the new custume tax. Not only it makes things expensive but not worth it....
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Well done!
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Great video mate
Thanks!
If she is in Shein Sheout ;P But seriously. I love your chosen topic. See ya next week
Haha love that! 🤣
Shein is based and you are coping
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Shein will continue to be successful. Why? Because of their target market. Asians Here is the bigger picture: There are 7.8 Billion people in the world, 4.8 Billion ARE ASIANS. They are actually the majority race. There are 1.4 Billion people in China and 1.5 Billion people in India. This is Shein's target market. They can do fine without Europe or the USA. Europe and the USA might be richer place, but in Asia there's a lot of people. Most global brands know this too. Where is Nike's BIGGEST market at? It's not in the USA, USA only holds 9 percent of the world and it's certainly not Europe. Europe is so tiny. Even Australia is bigger than the whole continent of Europe. Nike's BIGGEST target market is in Asia. Uniqlo, H&M, Zara, Foot locker's biggest market is in Asia. Think about it: Why is hollywood suddenly catering to Asians? Why does Disney put up one Asian themed movie after another? Because Asia is where the majority audience is. Look at how Anime is beating American comics (DC and Marvel), K-dramas and Kpop are slowly beating Hollywood. This is why from a business standpoint, Shein actually wins. If you look at Western world too, in the USA and Europe,slowly but surely there will be a lot more Asians. Your PM in the UK is Asian. Your surname is Leung, so must be half Asian, right?
Ummm 40% of Shein’s user base are from the US, followed by Brazil, France, Spain and Canada. None of them are Asian countries.
K drama and anime being more popular isn’t because Asia has the largest population. Asian people watch Hollywood and read western comic too.
@@ntw9677yt People in the US and Europe are struggling financially, that's why they buy the most affordable options for clothing. Especially for their kids. Kids still grow, so why waste money on clothing that your children is just going to use for 1-2 years?
@@ntw9677yt I did a quick research and American and European brands are failing to keep up with Asian brands. Asian brands are steadily rising up since the 2010's and beating western brands actually.
Shein has some amazing products
you have 94.4k subscribers, I bet 70% of them watch your videos as a styling guide then they buy from brands like Shein because they just dont have that disposable income to buy those brands that you buy. They dont have rich parents, most live from paycheck to paycheck. That's reality, James. If high end brands want to beat Shein, then they should lower their prices. How great would it be if you can buy a good quality t-shirt and pants for just under 15 dollars...
here in america we work two jobs just to be able to cover insurance, rent, food. Shein is the only option for us to buy new clothes (or look "trendy") without being broke. these fashion influencers should really go out and touch some grass.
lol, it's so random from my experiences with SHEIN many years, some good , some bad in the same product such as workmanship, the fabric quality..
for honestly it's having a fews real good quality on their site, most of them i can say about 80-90 percent are bad to trash
Shein used to have nice clothes a few years ago not aNymore