The M3 and M340i are two different cars. One is for people who want a little bit extra speed, but still want comfortability and ultimate daily drivability. The other is for those who want to sacrifice certain comforts for ultimate performance, as well as those who want to track it. Both are good DDs, but the M340i is the better every day car.
@devanathk2005 - That is what a decent set of coilovers is for. Not sure of costs in your locale, but it's not "very expensive " in USA/Canada/Europe.
I feel like target audience of the M340i xDrive would also be really comfortable getting an RS3. The RS3 is quicker, handles the same if not better, and is in the EXACT same price range as a decently spec'd M340i xDrive. The RS3 is perfect for someone wanting to stay around $65k with great performance while maintaining that ease of daily comfort. I think as a BMW fan myself that a lot of BMW guys feel that if they can't afford/don't want the M3 and all it's raw performance that it automatically means they have to get an M340. It's okay to branch out... especially when it makes sense to do so when you know what you want out of a car. I wanted a G80 comp xDrive with carbon buckets after my F82 until I realized it was too much raw performance for a daily driver. I needed something comfortable for 6+ hour frequent road trips, capable of handling snow/icy roads with ease, and still able to have fun with mid/high 3 second 0-60 launches... all without crippling my bank account. So I picked up a new RS3 in Kyalami Green last year and it's been PERFECT. All I've done is: res delete, wheel spacers, full Maxton aero kit, and tinted it. The RS3 has held value so strong that my Audi dealer called me last month asking to buy it back for exactly what I paid for it a year ago. I'm waiting to see what BMW brings in the new H generation in 2027 for the M340i. If it gets 430hp+ from factory and looks good then I'll end up going back to BMW.
If you’re looking for a sports car go M3. If you’re looking to save thousands of dollars, for a daily that you can still have “fun” in and get 30MPG go M340i.
Ive owned a lot of performance cars, Ive built out a few of them for both drag & track racing. I bought a G80CXD in 2022, as my first BMW, and its by far the best high performance daily driver Ive ever owned. With just a downpipe, drop in air filters, custom tune, & decent tires its a 9.7-9.8 1/4 mile car. With a subtle KW adjustable lowering springs(very subtle lowering) and it goes from good to great on the track & backroads. I truly believe the G80CXD is the greatest high performance daily driver ever produced. Unmatched in several areas: Performance Versatility(Drag, Track, Prep, No Prep, Street, Roll, Backroads), Performance gains with basic mods(200hp+200lbs gain with just DPs, intake, & Custom E40 tune), materials, build quality(unlike AMG interior which looks nice but has cheap squeaky plastic pieces), drive-ability+adaptability(Various performance & suspension settings, & AWD to RWD selection, that actually has noticeable changes), practicality(true all season, all weather daily with useable backseat & trunk space), fuel economy(in eco mode can easily get 30+MPG), reliability, value(I know some people will say "how can be it be good value costing 6 figures". What you receive for the $ competes with $300k+ super cars with literally $5k in upgrades. Most cars that perform on this level are perfect weather cars only, little practicality, performance versatility, etc. BMW could charge $140k-$150k for this car and I would still think its decent value at that level.. BMW hit a grand slam with the S58 & combining it with their XDrive. A RWD biased AWD system that still handles & feels like a RWD car in many ways, and if you want a little RWD fun its as simple as pushing a button. The M3/M4CXD are modern marvels of a car and highly recommended for anyone wanting a top of class highly practical performance car. I love my G80CXD so much I actually just ordered a new G82CXD with Carbon Buckets & CCBs to fully build out as a first in class drag, track, & show car. Ive never been a brand loyalist. I grew up on a classic car dealerships surrounded by all types muscle cars, so I liked many different models & brands, but experiencing this marvel of a machine BMW has turned me into a massive supporter of their brand. Even with basic mods-- Downpipes, lighter resonated exhaust, lighter rims + good tires, quality intake, subtle lowering(not slammed, just enough to slightly lower its CoG and reduce body roll a little), & custom 93 Octane tune for daily driving and custom E40 tune for race/track days, and you have a car that not much can compete with on the streets(thats not fully built). If you want to go further, with some engine & trans mods, these are now just after 2 short years already in the low 8's in the 1/4 mile. Which is outstanding. If someone is watching this video and is on the fence about ordering one, DO IT! I promise you wont experience a micro second of buyers remorse. Once you get past the break in period and can experience all it offers, youll be as ecstatic every time you have to drive down the road. Moreover the support Ive received from BMW has always been first class. IN 2022 when I was in the market for a new performance car, I test drove almost every one listed below. When it was done there wasnt anything that ranked as high in all the categories mentioned above. C8, Z06, GT500, GTR, RS3, RS5, RS6, ZL1 1LE, Hellcat Charger Redeye, AMG E63, Alfa R Quadriglio, Blackwing4, Blackwing5 Some platforms had a higher drag ceiling, some had a higher track ceiling, some had more space, but nothing was good in every category. It may not be an Ace of any specific category, but its better than a Jack...... A "King of all trades kind of car".. Now the platform has been out for a couple years, there is a good amount of after market support for the platform, so you can customize it however one wants. Whether thats for drag or track racing, or just cosmetically, so many different quality vendors to choose from no matter what your preferences/objectives may be. Knowing the potential of the S58, and knowing BMW was going to launch a new Hybrid M5, I was hoping BMW would use a tuned S58 instead of the V8 to help reduce the weight. I think BMW could easily release the S58 with 600-620HP + additional Hybrid output. This would have helped take off some of the weight from the hybrid system, which I think would have been the perfect combo for the new M5. I suppose we'll see how its reviewed when its launched.
99% of drivers will never ever see “all that it has to offer” on the track as the m3 is so far beyond the limits of anyone but a highly trained track driver. Heck the m340i limits are beyond what most ppl would ever squeeze out on a track lol. I’m glad to see ppl like you out there really getting the most out of the m3 tho. Most just want a badge so they can have a fancier grocery better.
Not the same for the m3 tho. They both are extremely compromised, the m2 was small enough you could reasonably feel the difference. I owned the f87 m2 for many years. M3 is a waste of money for all but professional race drivers or ppl that want to be complimented by other dudes at the gas station lol. You could easily make a m340i faster than a m3 for far less money.
I’d say daily livability is better in the M340i because of its better low end response for stop and go traffic, much better mpg, and better sound. Plus the B58 has already been proven to be extremely reliable (S58 is also reliable, but still yet to see if it measures up to B58 level). Let’s not forget that with some minor suspension and wheel/tire mods, you can make the M340i very close in track performance. The B58 has also broken more world records and has proven to hold more power than the S58 both stock engine and built.
@@MrCYChung Not if you’re talking records 😂 there’s no M3 in the 7s. That’s why the B58 is the record holding engine for all BMWs and not the S58. That’s also why there’s more stock engine B58s over 900whp and even 1000whp compared to S58.
@@Eddy-09if you plan on making any B58 car over 600hp, youre going to buy a beefier transmission. M3s come with a stronger transmission off the lot. Also the b58 has been out for twice as long as the S58 and the S58 is catching up
Back in 2022 I had the same decision to make and I chose the M340i. My biggest stips were fuel economy since I wanted a fun DAILY, and price. The m3 is a whole lot of car but seeing all my friends with supras, I figured I could get the M340i there a lot cheaper and be happier. Fast forward to now, my m340i is on fortune coilovers and dinan monoballs with some rear and mid bracing. Easily closed the gap in handling between the M3 and M340i. Currently doing a g80 brakes retrofit. Also immediately ditched the runflat stockers for 19x9.5 apex wheels with a 265/35 squared setup. Then for power just did a DAW turbo with fuel and I'm very happy. Car runs low 10s, probably 9s if I go back and I can make 35mpg on long trips. And I'm still not even close to the cost of the m3.
Seems like you guys were able to get over that gaping maw a lot easier than I was. Obviously the M3 is the more dynamic vehicle, but then you have to look at it. Would love to see this comparison redone with a few more basic mods on the M340i. I just put lightweight forged wheels and wider tires on mine and it’s a different machine. If tires got you three seconds without changing tire size…
Finally some honesty from a M340 owner. I really wish Mercedes AMG and BMW MDivision didn’t dilute their brands but I understand why they do it. Look, M-Lite cars are fantastic sporty editions of already exceptional cars BUT they are not the same as a real M car. If you own one, bravo you’re already ahead of the game and you have a sweet ass ride but please stop arguing it’s the same or better. I don’t care what tune, downpipe, midpipe etc. you put on to improve your 1/4 time. You can even paint or wrap your roof to simulate carbon fiber or slap on an oversized CF spoiler from Amazon, it’s just not the same. Purists can appreciate both, but the real ones understand that a real M is greater than the sum of its parts. It’s not about 1/4 times etc.; it is truly the definition of the ultimate driving machine and it cannot be expressed in words or quantified with data, it has to be experienced on a canyon road or on track.
++ on the whole being greater than sum of the parts on ///M cars. The ///M division’s engineers are incredibly talented in this aspect considering the tradeoffs they have to make.
Good comparison video. I traded in my 2023 M340i xdrive for a 2024 M3 competition xdrive and when I'm in efficiency mode and my right foot is light I'm able to get 24 MPG around town which isn't too bad compared to my M340i. I do disagree with with most people's opinion about the grill of the M3 I think it looks great and it does serve a purpose. Also, the Merino leather interior is IMO a bit nicer than the Vernasca leather in the M340i.
Got the '22 M340i xDrive, Spartanburg delivery (GO for it!). Ordered every option (including Michelin Pilot 4S NRFs and oil cooler) except the power trunk lid--HATE power doors. It's now a Dinan car with suspension, strut braces, cold air intake, and quad exhaust. It's my first automatic in 42 years, and it's brilliant, but it still does what IT wants to do--I'd rather have a manual. Could've gotten an M3 with manual tranny for near the same price, but detuned and RWD only. Plus, for professional reasons, I needed something with some degree of subtlety and elegance--wood trim, black metallic paint (with Shadowline), mocha leather--and I just couldn't spec the M3 that way, away from brash boy-racer combos (don't like carbon fiber decor), plus its styling gives it away anyway. I lMUCH like the M340i! The struts and suspension give the steering more responsiveness. The cold air intake and quad exhaust actually smooth out the sport transmission action around town so it isn't so jerky, yet more responsive. I ordered adaptive suspension, but it was decontented during the chip-shortage build, so the ride's a bit stiff. I save the Pilot 4Ss for track days. They have a lot of impact harshness. The Continental all-season DSW Extreme Contacts lose just a touch of turnin sharpness but add LOTS of impact smoothness--well worth it for daily driving. I took the car to VIR and yes, the M3s have it all over this slightly upgraded M340i xDrive. (But for now, the car is way better than I am!) Maybe some chip work later? Re. the LCI, I'm GLAD to have the pre-LCI interior! The binnacle and center screen are BEAUTIFULLY integrated, making the whole dash area into an attractive work of art that's also functional with real but unobtrusive buttons. The LCI dash is UGLY! It looks like someone mated two Dell desktop screens from someone's work cubicle and just dumped the result to perch on top of a formerly beautiful dash--where the screens even need ugly bracing in the back just to stay in place! Sure, these screens do more and have more graphics--but whatever happened to the simple, well-integrated, elegant beauty that BMW has modeled through the years? And buttons--what buttons? (And with computer graphics, why oh why can't we just have the option of round dials?) Then, THE SHIFT LEVER IS GONE--the thing that "falls readily to hand" and in a Bimmer, FITS your hand! I can move the lever by feel, not sight. How will a slide switch EVER perform the needed functions so smoothly and well? No way! This is a big step back in ergonomics. To conclude: is the M3 worth the money? Yes, no doubt. Is it what I need? No, it's a bit much for me in presentation and maintenance. I'm VERY happy in the land of my modded M340i!
If I had to choose between the M3 and M340i, it’s the M2 all day. I wanted to love the new M3. But what kills it for me are its ungainly proportions (just too big and awkward) and the Pep Boys fake air vents on the front fenders. F80 was the most beautiful and proportional M3, IMHO.
I was thinking I'd get myself a 340i, but eventually order an M3 Comp. For some strange reason the front grew on me so much that I now love it and actually don't fancy the one on 340i as much. Who would have guessed, I totally hated initially what they did to M3 a thought it's a showstopper for me. But I really started loving it seeing those cars in person. Also didn't like the new LED headlights, but now starting to like them as much as the angel eyes. Lesson learned for me, don't go with the hype and take time to form an actual opinion.
Yup I didn’t really care for it and when I saw it and person and drove I said to myself people are regurgitating BS and this car is selling like hotcakes
Wouldn’t the M340i be a better daily long distance car? I have a X3M40i with the B58 and it’s been an incredible vehicle. I just wonder if the true M3 is overkill to drive every day ?
Nice vid! Would love to see even wider/stickier tires on the M340i + a simple 93 tune to close the power gap vs the M3. Maybe even a slight drop to lower the center of gravity on the M340i. It would get veeerry close to the M3. 225 tires just doesn’t do it on a 58 series engine.
@@dwnshftyou’re not kidding, and I just realized you have run flats..? You would be shocked to see the difference it makes when you go from narrow run flats to wider non run flats such as PS4s.. I did on my M340i and wow.. it reacts quicker to steering feedback, has much better grip, and much more comfortable ride. I think the M340i sounds way better, has better low end response, but the M3 has better top end with its bigger stock turbos and higher boost stock. It would be fair to compare it with a stage 1 tune on the M340i.
M340i aulitzky with 515hp did 8.75sec 100-200 on dragy a stock m3 Comp did 8sec flat all day long you will need more than a simple tune to come even close
i have an m340i so i could be a little bias but having that b58 engine and tuning / modding capability along with reliability and daily driving i will chose the m340i any day!
I had a 2020 BMW M340i and loved it. Had to sell it because it was just collecting dust, have a car from work I have to use due to my job. Hoping someday to justify getting a M3.
I don't understand frozen paints, I love polishing the car to a high gloss and it looks far better that way. I despise the M3 Venetian blind, testes shaped grille on the M3. When surrounded by chrome on some other models it totally looks like a pair of testes. The cheap screen is a way for BMW to save millions on designing a binnacle and switchgear, I get it, but I don't like it.
Who can help me understand why the B58 sounds nicer than the S58, would this have impact on performance? Like why wouldn’t the M3 sound exactly like the 340i?? Why wouldn’t the M5/6/8 sound exactly like the m850i??? and still deliver the same performance, the M5/6/8 only miss the m850i tone and the M3/4 only miss the m340i face and engine tone, then you have perfect performance cars!!
M340 is a beast sounds better looks better upfront but can’t compare to the M3 performance wise stock and the rear end on the m3 is just better executed looks more aggressive and come with better wheels
can't compare the 340 steel brakes and m3 steel brakes, the ceramics won't feel much" better" than the steels and will require more heat but they are good for high speed runs and not fading, but people who track a lot actually use the steels
one of the main reason people use steels on track is mainly due to cost. i've had friends with R35 GTR that swap out the ceramic for steel for track use simply because it is cheaper to replace. ceramic brakes are great, but in reality not a whole lot of people want to pay for replacement.
Comparing M3 daily livability with the worst options of the M340i is kind of misleading. Obviously the adaptive dampers with normal tyres are going to be way better, so daily ride quality is going to be better in an M340i as long as it's spec'ed better...
M cars are better and anyone who says otherwise didn't spend the money to actually verify this Lmao. I have both cars and there isn't a single situation where I run to drive the M340 over the M3 outside of unbearably bad roads (NYC). If I was in Florida we would get rid of our M340i. Does everyone need an iPhone pro max? No, but people still buy that over the base iPhone, they accomplish virtually the same tasks but one just has a bit more refinement.
Yeah I tried both out but I got the M440i mostly cause of the unbearably bad roads around NY/NJ area. I also dont need that kind of power in back to back traffic so yeah.
@@aryansaple7865I’ve driven both and also live in Jersey. It’s really cost to performance and how you plan on using it. Right now the M340 seems to be a better overall option unless you wanna show everybody you spent almost $100k
@@CrimsonRequiem1 Agreed my issue is just that, I can't really use the power the M4/M3 have to offer in traffic. I would have to take the car down south on the regular basis and drive late nights in order to actually "enjoy " the car. The M440i is not just more cost efficient but has good power where if I was in a scenario of back to back traffic or open roads I can save gas when needed and enjoy even though its not as much as a M3/M4
The best value is the M340 The chassis bracing and suspension /tires could be upgraded .. have you seen the engine bracing on all Mcars .. M3 has significantly stiffened the chassis with bracing.. The B58 and M340 is best sounding and could be best hidden gem.. I sold them and It is a gem imagine adding CSL engine bracing and suspension
I love the conversation about steering feel because for me that is what makes it more fun when it feels a bit heavier but still fast and sporty. I wouldn’t like a fast car with light steering and numb feeling so for me the M340 is overall a better daily but of course the M3 is more performance oriented
Having owned the latest 340i and now I have the G81 sorry yanks you don’t get it. The 340 is probably the sweet spot for BMWs mega fuel economy fast and a great package, but if you have the cash get the M diff beast. Fuel wise 340 if taken easy motorway can return mid 40s m3 mid 30 think best I’ve had is 37mpg. My only negative on the 340 is it looks a bit meh and I never wanted to wash it. The amount of comments I get about the G81 amazes me
One thing to mention is also the adaptive suspension makes a huge difference in the M340. I have the m-performance standard suspension. And its literally stupid harsh.
how did the M340 exhaust sound soooo much better than the M3's?? Are they both stock? Also I love the fjord blue -- unfortunately I could not get it in my M3 Comp (settled for Yas Marina blue).
Thanks to you, I was able to make the decision and purchase a 2021 m340i after much consideration. Thank you for the in-depth reviews and also honest opinions, rather than bullshitting it to make people happy. I went through BMW Milwaukee North rather than through IA and I must say, I am so happy with the purchase. Next steps are tuning and downpipes with either an AWE or Valvetronic exhaust.
The M340i in the video is only rear wheel drive and has a square tire setup. It would feel different if you had m340i Xdrive with staggered wheels on Michelin Pilot Sport 4s. This setup comparison would be a much close comparison to the M3 Competition with the Xdrive with staggered tires setup and with the Michelin Pilot Sport 4s.
I can’t get past the M3’s grill. Wonderful piece of technology but I don’t think its looks will age well. In ‘22, ordered my M340i with the full shadow line package in portimao blue. I’ve gotten 35 mpgs and made it from 0-60 in 3.6s. Couldn’t be happier. If you don’t care about looks, and just want a track weapon, opt for the M3.
The M340i I had spec'd around this time last year was going to be $72k. That's with every option, the M-sport exhaust, the M-sport carbon fiber trim, etc. You're getting right there within spitting distance of a low mileage used M3 or previous generation M5.
39k in two years on my G80 xdrive. I have never and will never consider any 340 over the G80. I am ordering the 2025 ASAP. I don't care about the price "savings".
@@jankosiek No. I mean spending more on the G80 xdrive vs any 340 is worth it. FYI- I put $25k down on my G80, I'm getting that back and putting it down on my new one. So it kinda still saved me money.
@@ronalddoggett2604 you are buying a new one because you are basically out of warranty now? How much money are you going to lose by upgrading the years? I hear the 2025 xdrive comp has slightly higher hp and slightly faster times stock too. I have a 2023 g80 comp rwd and I really am considering the xdrive, although I only really use my car for fun :-)
@@sgeertt4724 I traded an RS3 for the G80. The price of cars was insanely high when I purchased the G80 so I used the 25k that I got from the sale of RS3 as my down-payment. Same payment, just new car. I'm an now going to use that same money to get the new model. My current G80 is still under warranty and has zero issues. It is really a great spec. I'm only upgrading because I drive it so much. If you get a G80 the Xdrive is the only way to go. Just my opinion...
m340i is more comfort on the street, not on track, were bumpy rides are everywhere...... if u buy a m3 and never track is a waste........thats when u get the m340i for daily..........is like buying a 4x4 and u never go offroad!!!
I love how people are complaining about the tires. Yeah change the tires not the suspension right? Tires won’t make a huge difference to how it performed on the track. If they both have summer performance tires they should be performing. It’s also the driver not just the vehicle. As an M4 owner though I expect nothing less. I personally dislike m-lite cars, I say save and get an M. Yeah you can push a B58, but you can really push an S58.
Really great video guys. I’m a Brit who is err, a little older than you haha but I’ve been lucky enough to own both an M340i X Drive & now a G82 M4 X Drive. I think you’re absolutely right that the biggest surprise is just how daily-drivable the M3/4 is. It’s also a fabulous GT btw - drive mine all around Europe. It’s a truly great car. Is the M3/4 worth the extra? Of course. But the 340i is still a great and very expensive car - many will be stretching themselves to afford one - it certainly would have been a dream car to me when I was your age!
B58 sounds better imo. More usable low-end torque/response for around town and daily driver. The m340i also has a more compliant ride quality. I found the M3 ride to be a bit harsh over bumps and road imperfections for daily driving. Im still am not a fan of the M3 front grill, either.
As a e90 335 owner that I love- always wanted a m340 but seeing how many people buying them, I will buy an. M3 just to remind m340 owners they do t have the real M 😊- they are both different cars engines suspension everything
Carbon fiber CSL grill, some more carbon fiber like front lip, side skirts.. really transform the G80. Also height adjustable lowering springs really transform the looks and handling.. way too much front tire gap and body roll stock. Springs fixed everything
Great review, loving this format. Have already said it, but you guys gotta get a Giulia QV and even just a 2.0T out on this track. I actually went with a 2.0T over an M340i based on chassis tuning and steering and of course the looks. Escalated into a QV which I am picking up this week.
nice! I just secured the Stelvio QV loan for a few weeks from now so stay tuned for that...no one seems to have a Giulia in a fleet anywhere but we'll keep trying
People who have never owned a real M car, have this impression that they are just slightly faster versions of an M-lite. There is so much more to a real M car than that. I had an M140i for 4 years, I tuned it to 455bhp/634nm, upgraded lots of parts even the brakes, and it was a straight line weapon. That said, I now have a standard OG M2, and it would gap my old car within less than a minute on a twisty road. Little things like the fact the sound deadening is removed from M cars, that the rear axle carrier is mounted to the chassis with solid mounts, instead of rubber bushes, and a dozen other things, make a real M car a totally different driving experience.
I have had the pleasure of driving both cars, and in my country (due to absurd car taxes) the M3 is twice as expensive as the M340i (both new and second hand). In that scenario, the M340i would win. However, of the price difference would be a lot smaller, I would take the M3 because it’s a monster of a car.
I owned cars of other brands comparable to the M3 and M340. My opinion is, if you have the money to easily buy the M3->Buy it. If you don´t have the money to buy the M3->Can´t buy it, don´t think about it. The interesting situation is when you could have the money to buy the M3, but it would be a significant hit on your economy. That is when you think about this question of getting the M340 or the M3. In this case I think you should ask yourself the question: will you be able to utilize what the car has to offer? I bought the performance version of other brands and ended up rarely going on any track. Of course, it felt good flooring it when entering the highway, for those 2-3 seconds I reached the speed limit. It felt like such a waste, there was so much more in the car than I could use. If now, I were in this financial situation, I would say, the M340 is 100% enough to have fun on the daily drives, if I only drove in public, I would not even consider getting the M3, then there is a much better place for that extra money. I would only spend the extra on the M3 if I am confident, I will have the opportunity push it to its limits regularly, for example if going on tracks is a big part of my life, and I have the skills to effectively drive such cars.
I always say the m lites sound better than the new M cars. I love the F80 generation still. Just perfect ughh wish I got the xdrive in an F80 and the upgraded tech. I believe you can upgrade the regular brakes on the g80 for track use and save the almost 10k from the carbon ceramics I have see plenty of people do it and have no issues. I have got used to the grille over the years, but still wish it was better. great video
15:30 I didn’t catch that, so which of the seats are the best in terms of seating comfort? The non carbon fibre seats in the m3? Are these not the same as in the m340i?
The standard seats in the M3 are the most comfortable. The leather is far better in the M in the USA, but I think that varies by region. The buckets are great but they are a compromise imo.
Personally, I think the M340i looks better. If I could have either right now, I’d go with an M340i to get all the aspects of performance and comfort for daily commute and do a down pipe, drop in intake and a tune and call it a day
People have reported though that the M3 does get into the high 20s as far as the fuel consumption goes when on the highway and taking it relatively easy. It is surprising your guys' experience was quite different.
It wasn't always like this. The previous generations genuinely were easier to live with in a M240i or M235i. BMW have clearly sorted out the stiff suspension.
On Short Curvy Tracks: Infinite HP and Torque (M3 w/Xdrive) only buys you 3 seconds lap times over the M340i w/RWD. Difference being acceleration of the M3 vs. M340i. Simple Rule of Thumb: HP affects your maximum speed. Torque affects acceleration, and the time it takes to achieve maximum speed. You will not believe this next comment, but its true: A V-6 Cobra (Tuned 2.8L Ford V-6) is faster than a Ford 427 (485 HP) V-8 Cobra on short curvy tracks simply due to weight difference.
I don't agree. I have both cars and is not possible to say one is better then other. m3 is more on track and fun on the road also daily but m340i is better as a horse. With trailer hitch, auxiliary heating, softer seats and suspension, quiter engine and exhaust, mild hybrid - higher torque low rev, longer range with eco pro is much better for long trips in wild places with higher suspension without engine oil cooler. that's why I keep both. M3 is brutal, loud and you can feel every small hole on the road or all the time engine vibrations. fun starts from 3500rpms. its not like m550i and m5 when m5 its just better in every aspect. I made for a short term 460ps and 750nm in m340 with box and E25 and m3 xdrive was behind me 0-60 km/h but I don't want to destroy this car that's why I bouth m3c xdrive.
I have nothing against these two cars as they are both diff animal. I own an F80 comp and love it that's just me! But it does look awesome even now. Just buy what you feel is right for you and be done!
fasxtest M car is 2025 M4x. Much harsher daily than the 2025 M440x. I have the M4x, my wife opted for the Audi S5 :) the ride on the audi is amazing, but i just wanted the M4x. I am old now, so i buy what i want. My Bently is cushy when i need cushy.
I was looking for good fun Daily. I really want m4 buuuuut the face. I tried convince myself that it looks great but in the end I choosed m340i 😅 for the Street only in EU is as good as the m3 but it looks much better
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M3 without a question
M3 if the price isn't going to stretch your finances.
The grill kills it
@@ContentinMesa yeah, is better on M3
You ever seen NoHesi’s M340i!!!??? Do your homework
Let's be honest, if you have the money you're going for the M3... Stop fooling yourselves people lol
I have the money I still chose m340. You don’t have to get the full m experience. For some the m sport is good enough.
Yep. Well said
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@@NinoPavkovic the liar's liar.
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The M3 and M340i are two different cars. One is for people who want a little bit extra speed, but still want comfortability and ultimate daily drivability. The other is for those who want to sacrifice certain comforts for ultimate performance, as well as those who want to track it. Both are good DDs, but the M340i is the better every day car.
Well said!
M340i needs adaptive dampners to be less harsh and comfortable. In India we don't get that even as an option and the ride is bumpy as hell.
@devanathk2005 - That is what a decent set of coilovers is for. Not sure of costs in your locale, but it's not "very expensive " in USA/Canada/Europe.
@@d-block6136 it's twice or thrice the cost because it's a grey market and an OEM system can be adjusted on the fly
I feel like target audience of the M340i xDrive would also be really comfortable getting an RS3. The RS3 is quicker, handles the same if not better, and is in the EXACT same price range as a decently spec'd M340i xDrive. The RS3 is perfect for someone wanting to stay around $65k with great performance while maintaining that ease of daily comfort.
I think as a BMW fan myself that a lot of BMW guys feel that if they can't afford/don't want the M3 and all it's raw performance that it automatically means they have to get an M340. It's okay to branch out... especially when it makes sense to do so when you know what you want out of a car.
I wanted a G80 comp xDrive with carbon buckets after my F82 until I realized it was too much raw performance for a daily driver. I needed something comfortable for 6+ hour frequent road trips, capable of handling snow/icy roads with ease, and still able to have fun with mid/high 3 second 0-60 launches... all without crippling my bank account. So I picked up a new RS3 in Kyalami Green last year and it's been PERFECT. All I've done is: res delete, wheel spacers, full Maxton aero kit, and tinted it. The RS3 has held value so strong that my Audi dealer called me last month asking to buy it back for exactly what I paid for it a year ago.
I'm waiting to see what BMW brings in the new H generation in 2027 for the M340i. If it gets 430hp+ from factory and looks good then I'll end up going back to BMW.
I own a 2024 BMW M340 and in my opinion it’s an all-around all season sports car best car I’ve owned in a long time
If you’re looking for a sports car go M3. If you’re looking to save thousands of dollars, for a daily that you can still have “fun” in and get 30MPG go M340i.
indeed
Ive owned a lot of performance cars, Ive built out a few of them for both drag & track racing. I bought a G80CXD in 2022, as my first BMW, and its by far the best high performance daily driver Ive ever owned. With just a downpipe, drop in air filters, custom tune, & decent tires its a 9.7-9.8 1/4 mile car. With a subtle KW adjustable lowering springs(very subtle lowering) and it goes from good to great on the track & backroads.
I truly believe the G80CXD is the greatest high performance daily driver ever produced. Unmatched in several areas: Performance Versatility(Drag, Track, Prep, No Prep, Street, Roll, Backroads), Performance gains with basic mods(200hp+200lbs gain with just DPs, intake, & Custom E40 tune), materials, build quality(unlike AMG interior which looks nice but has cheap squeaky plastic pieces), drive-ability+adaptability(Various performance & suspension settings, & AWD to RWD selection, that actually has noticeable changes), practicality(true all season, all weather daily with useable backseat & trunk space), fuel economy(in eco mode can easily get 30+MPG), reliability, value(I know some people will say "how can be it be good value costing 6 figures". What you receive for the $ competes with $300k+ super cars with literally $5k in upgrades. Most cars that perform on this level are perfect weather cars only, little practicality, performance versatility, etc. BMW could charge $140k-$150k for this car and I would still think its decent value at that level..
BMW hit a grand slam with the S58 & combining it with their XDrive. A RWD biased AWD system that still handles & feels like a RWD car in many ways, and if you want a little RWD fun its as simple as pushing a button. The M3/M4CXD are modern marvels of a car and highly recommended for anyone wanting a top of class highly practical performance car.
I love my G80CXD so much I actually just ordered a new G82CXD with Carbon Buckets & CCBs to fully build out as a first in class drag, track, & show car. Ive never been a brand loyalist. I grew up on a classic car dealerships surrounded by all types muscle cars, so I liked many different models & brands, but experiencing this marvel of a machine BMW has turned me into a massive supporter of their brand.
Even with basic mods-- Downpipes, lighter resonated exhaust, lighter rims + good tires, quality intake, subtle lowering(not slammed, just enough to slightly lower its CoG and reduce body roll a little), & custom 93 Octane tune for daily driving and custom E40 tune for race/track days, and you have a car that not much can compete with on the streets(thats not fully built). If you want to go further, with some engine & trans mods, these are now just after 2 short years already in the low 8's in the 1/4 mile. Which is outstanding.
If someone is watching this video and is on the fence about ordering one, DO IT! I promise you wont experience a micro second of buyers remorse. Once you get past the break in period and can experience all it offers, youll be as ecstatic every time you have to drive down the road. Moreover the support Ive received from BMW has always been first class.
IN 2022 when I was in the market for a new performance car, I test drove almost every one listed below. When it was done there wasnt anything that ranked as high in all the categories mentioned above.
C8, Z06, GT500, GTR, RS3, RS5, RS6, ZL1 1LE, Hellcat Charger Redeye, AMG E63, Alfa R Quadriglio, Blackwing4, Blackwing5
Some platforms had a higher drag ceiling, some had a higher track ceiling, some had more space, but nothing was good in every category. It may not be an Ace of any specific category, but its better than a Jack...... A "King of all trades kind of car".. Now the platform has been out for a couple years, there is a good amount of after market support for the platform, so you can customize it however one wants. Whether thats for drag or track racing, or just cosmetically, so many different quality vendors to choose from no matter what your preferences/objectives may be.
Knowing the potential of the S58, and knowing BMW was going to launch a new Hybrid M5, I was hoping BMW would use a tuned S58 instead of the V8 to help reduce the weight. I think BMW could easily release the S58 with 600-620HP + additional Hybrid output. This would have helped take off some of the weight from the hybrid system, which I think would have been the perfect combo for the new M5. I suppose we'll see how its reviewed when its launched.
Try Porsche 911. Even in base model, its incredible
Damn
99% of drivers will never ever see “all that it has to offer” on the track as the m3 is so far beyond the limits of anyone but a highly trained track driver. Heck the m340i limits are beyond what most ppl would ever squeeze out on a track lol. I’m glad to see ppl like you out there really getting the most out of the m3 tho. Most just want a badge so they can have a fancier grocery better.
If manual is a must,not sure how you could take a G8X over the CT5VBW.
How about the M2?
As a previous m240i to a m2 owner, yes m cars are worth it.
M what lad, True M or M-lite
@@thebirdhasbeenchargedhe is obviously saying how to m2 is better
Not the same for the m3 tho. They both are extremely compromised, the m2 was small enough you could reasonably feel the difference. I owned the f87 m2 for many years. M3 is a waste of money for all but professional race drivers or ppl that want to be complimented by other dudes at the gas station lol. You could easily make a m340i faster than a m3 for far less money.
New m2 are ugly. The old m2 was beautiful
@@trentreznik3798 I like ugly cars, I don't like pretty cars.
M340i for the reasons others have given but also for looks alone. Will never get used to the M3 grille. Just doesn’t work aesthetically.
You never have to worry about seeing the front grill of my G80… so it’s all good.
@@aaronacjwatch out guys!
I agree.G8X front end is shit
I’d say daily livability is better in the M340i because of its better low end response for stop and go traffic, much better mpg, and better sound. Plus the B58 has already been proven to be extremely reliable (S58 is also reliable, but still yet to see if it measures up to B58 level). Let’s not forget that with some minor suspension and wheel/tire mods, you can make the M340i very close in track performance. The B58 has also broken more world records and has proven to hold more power than the S58 both stock engine and built.
B58 FTWWWW...love mine for all the reasons listed here^
M3 > M340…. It’s ok if you don’t have one. 🤷🏻♂️
@@MrCYChung Not if you’re talking records 😂 there’s no M3 in the 7s. That’s why the B58 is the record holding engine for all BMWs and not the S58. That’s also why there’s more stock engine B58s over 900whp and even 1000whp compared to S58.
@@Eddy-09if you plan on making any B58 car over 600hp, youre going to buy a beefier transmission. M3s come with a stronger transmission off the lot. Also the b58 has been out for twice as long as the S58 and the S58 is catching up
Don’t listen to these kids 😂 b58 on top
Back in 2022 I had the same decision to make and I chose the M340i. My biggest stips were fuel economy since I wanted a fun DAILY, and price. The m3 is a whole lot of car but seeing all my friends with supras, I figured I could get the M340i there a lot cheaper and be happier.
Fast forward to now, my m340i is on fortune coilovers and dinan monoballs with some rear and mid bracing. Easily closed the gap in handling between the M3 and M340i. Currently doing a g80 brakes retrofit. Also immediately ditched the runflat stockers for 19x9.5 apex wheels with a 265/35 squared setup. Then for power just did a DAW turbo with fuel and I'm very happy. Car runs low 10s, probably 9s if I go back and I can make 35mpg on long trips. And I'm still not even close to the cost of the m3.
Xdrive?
@kingrabbit7563 yessir. Only way I'd buy a current bmw
Man do you have any videos or pictures of it that we can see?
Still not an M3. Lipstick on a pig won’t make it your girlfriend
its still not an M3 I'd rather drive a corrolla than an M-lite
I wish the M3 had the front end of the M340i
Eww looks like a orangutan nose
Hell nah m3 front end dope asf
@@justinmc9348 To each their own
@@rami2538 it’s dope how they separated the look imo I didn’t like how the previous m3 and 340i look so much a like
I felt the same way until I looked at the M3 in person.
Seems like you guys were able to get over that gaping maw a lot easier than I was. Obviously the M3 is the more dynamic vehicle, but then you have to look at it. Would love to see this comparison redone with a few more basic mods on the M340i. I just put lightweight forged wheels and wider tires on mine and it’s a different machine. If tires got you three seconds without changing tire size…
Finally some honesty from a M340 owner. I really wish Mercedes AMG and BMW MDivision didn’t dilute their brands but I understand why they do it. Look, M-Lite cars are fantastic sporty editions of already exceptional cars BUT they are not the same as a real M car. If you own one, bravo you’re already ahead of the game and you have a sweet ass ride but please stop arguing it’s the same or better. I don’t care what tune, downpipe, midpipe etc. you put on to improve your 1/4 time. You can even paint or wrap your roof to simulate carbon fiber or slap on an oversized CF spoiler from Amazon, it’s just not the same. Purists can appreciate both, but the real ones understand that a real M is greater than the sum of its parts. It’s not about 1/4 times etc.; it is truly the definition of the ultimate driving machine and it cannot be expressed in words or quantified with data, it has to be experienced on a canyon road or on track.
VERY well said!
Absolutely correct!
++ on the whole being greater than sum of the parts on ///M cars. The ///M division’s engineers are incredibly talented in this aspect considering the tradeoffs they have to make.
Audi has the s and rs line. I see the m sport and m for bmw being the same.
@@matthewm8021facts people can’t read and just want to feel better about spending a wad of money
Good comparison video. I traded in my 2023 M340i xdrive for a 2024 M3 competition xdrive and when I'm in efficiency mode and my right foot is light I'm able to get 24 MPG around town which isn't too bad compared to my M340i. I do disagree with with most people's opinion about the grill of the M3 I think it looks great and it does serve a purpose. Also, the Merino leather interior is IMO a bit nicer than the Vernasca leather in the M340i.
Got the '22 M340i xDrive, Spartanburg delivery (GO for it!). Ordered every option (including Michelin Pilot 4S NRFs and oil cooler) except the power trunk lid--HATE power doors. It's now a Dinan car with suspension, strut braces, cold air intake, and quad exhaust. It's my first automatic in 42 years, and it's brilliant, but it still does what IT wants to do--I'd rather have a manual. Could've gotten an M3 with manual tranny for near the same price, but detuned and RWD only. Plus, for professional reasons, I needed something with some degree of subtlety and elegance--wood trim, black metallic paint (with Shadowline), mocha leather--and I just couldn't spec the M3 that way, away from brash boy-racer combos (don't like carbon fiber decor), plus its styling gives it away anyway.
I lMUCH like the M340i! The struts and suspension give the steering more responsiveness. The cold air intake and quad exhaust actually smooth out the sport transmission action around town so it isn't so jerky, yet more responsive. I ordered adaptive suspension, but it was decontented during the chip-shortage build, so the ride's a bit stiff. I save the Pilot 4Ss for track days. They have a lot of impact harshness. The Continental all-season DSW Extreme Contacts lose just a touch of turnin sharpness but add LOTS of impact smoothness--well worth it for daily driving. I took the car to VIR and yes, the M3s have it all over this slightly upgraded M340i xDrive. (But for now, the car is way better than I am!) Maybe some chip work later?
Re. the LCI, I'm GLAD to have the pre-LCI interior! The binnacle and center screen are BEAUTIFULLY integrated, making the whole dash area into an attractive work of art that's also functional with real but unobtrusive buttons. The LCI dash is UGLY! It looks like someone mated two Dell desktop screens from someone's work cubicle and just dumped the result to perch on top of a formerly beautiful dash--where the screens even need ugly bracing in the back just to stay in place! Sure, these screens do more and have more graphics--but whatever happened to the simple, well-integrated, elegant beauty that BMW has modeled through the years? And buttons--what buttons? (And with computer graphics, why oh why can't we just have the option of round dials?) Then, THE SHIFT LEVER IS GONE--the thing that "falls readily to hand" and in a Bimmer, FITS your hand! I can move the lever by feel, not sight. How will a slide switch EVER perform the needed functions so smoothly and well? No way! This is a big step back in ergonomics.
To conclude: is the M3 worth the money? Yes, no doubt. Is it what I need? No, it's a bit much for me in presentation and maintenance. I'm VERY happy in the land of my modded M340i!
If I had to choose between the M3 and M340i, it’s the M2 all day. I wanted to love the new M3. But what kills it for me are its ungainly proportions (just too big and awkward) and the Pep Boys fake air vents on the front fenders. F80 was the most beautiful and proportional M3, IMHO.
By the way, I’ve even grown to like the front grille on the M3.
F80 is sooooooo good looking 😍
I was thinking I'd get myself a 340i, but eventually order an M3 Comp. For some strange reason the front grew on me so much that I now love it and actually don't fancy the one on 340i as much. Who would have guessed, I totally hated initially what they did to M3 a thought it's a showstopper for me. But I really started loving it seeing those cars in person. Also didn't like the new LED headlights, but now starting to like them as much as the angel eyes. Lesson learned for me, don't go with the hype and take time to form an actual opinion.
Yup I didn’t really care for it and when I saw it and person and drove I said to myself people are regurgitating BS and this car is selling like hotcakes
M340 for me. The price difference between the 2 doesn’t justify the street performance for me from the M3.
Wouldn’t the M340i be a better daily long distance car? I have a X3M40i with the B58 and it’s been an incredible vehicle. I just wonder if the true M3 is overkill to drive every day ?
M3 for sure. G80 is very easy to live with.
yeah i was surprised how compliant it was day-to-day! especially for having "competition" on the back. The X3M could never
Nice vid! Would love to see even wider/stickier tires on the M340i + a simple 93 tune to close the power gap vs the M3. Maybe even a slight drop to lower the center of gravity on the M340i. It would get veeerry close to the M3. 225 tires just doesn’t do it on a 58 series engine.
yeah the 225s are a borderline sin
@@dwnshftyou’re not kidding, and I just realized you have run flats..? You would be shocked to see the difference it makes when you go from narrow run flats to wider non run flats such as PS4s.. I did on my M340i and wow.. it reacts quicker to steering feedback, has much better grip, and much more comfortable ride.
I think the M340i sounds way better, has better low end response, but the M3 has better top end with its bigger stock turbos and higher boost stock. It would be fair to compare it with a stage 1 tune on the M340i.
@@Eddy-09 for sure - and the Kumhos that I put on a couple videos ago aren’t run flats and they’re much better
M340i aulitzky with 515hp did 8.75sec 100-200 on dragy a stock m3 Comp did 8sec flat all day long you will need more than a simple tune to come even close
@@goodtimes8518 I already gapped an M3 comp multiple times with just a downpipe and simple ots tune in my M340ix.
i have an m340i so i could be a little bias but having that b58 engine and tuning / modding capability along with reliability and daily driving i will chose the m340i any day!
S58 > B58… and it comes with a bonus turbo…
I had a 2020 BMW M340i and loved it. Had to sell it because it was just collecting dust, have a car from work I have to use due to my job. Hoping someday to justify getting a M3.
I don't understand frozen paints, I love polishing the car to a high gloss and it looks far better that way. I despise the M3 Venetian blind, testes shaped grille on the M3. When surrounded by chrome on some other models it totally looks like a pair of testes. The cheap screen is a way for BMW to save millions on designing a binnacle and switchgear, I get it, but I don't like it.
Who can help me understand why the B58 sounds nicer than the S58, would this have impact on performance? Like why wouldn’t the M3 sound exactly like the 340i?? Why wouldn’t the M5/6/8 sound exactly like the m850i??? and still deliver the same performance, the M5/6/8 only miss the m850i tone and the M3/4 only miss the m340i face and engine tone, then you have perfect performance cars!!
Different exhaust setup.
The B58 is a twin scroll turbo, S58 is a twin turbo , the exhaust manifold has 3 cylinders running running each turbo.
M340 is a beast sounds better looks better upfront but can’t compare to the M3 performance wise stock and the rear end on the m3 is just better executed looks more aggressive and come with better wheels
mmmmhmmmmmm
can't compare the 340 steel brakes and m3 steel brakes, the ceramics won't feel much" better" than the steels and will require more heat but they are good for high speed runs and not fading, but people who track a lot actually use the steels
one of the main reason people use steels on track is mainly due to cost. i've had friends with R35 GTR that swap out the ceramic for steel for track use simply because it is cheaper to replace. ceramic brakes are great, but in reality not a whole lot of people want to pay for replacement.
Comparing M3 daily livability with the worst options of the M340i is kind of misleading. Obviously the adaptive dampers with normal tyres are going to be way better, so daily ride quality is going to be better in an M340i as long as it's spec'ed better...
M cars are better and anyone who says otherwise didn't spend the money to actually verify this Lmao. I have both cars and there isn't a single situation where I run to drive the M340 over the M3 outside of unbearably bad roads (NYC). If I was in Florida we would get rid of our M340i. Does everyone need an iPhone pro max? No, but people still buy that over the base iPhone, they accomplish virtually the same tasks but one just has a bit more refinement.
Yeah I tried both out but I got the M440i mostly cause of the unbearably bad roads around NY/NJ area. I also dont need that kind of power in back to back traffic so yeah.
@@aryansaple7865I’ve driven both and also live in Jersey. It’s really cost to performance and how you plan on using it. Right now the M340 seems to be a better overall option unless you wanna show everybody you spent almost $100k
@@CrimsonRequiem1 Agreed my issue is just that, I can't really use the power the M4/M3 have to offer in traffic. I would have to take the car down south on the regular basis and drive late nights in order to actually "enjoy " the car. The M440i is not just more cost efficient but has good power where if I was in a scenario of back to back traffic or open roads I can save gas when needed and enjoy even though its not as much as a M3/M4
simple, quick answer.... YES the M3 is definitely worth the money
The best value is the M340
The chassis bracing and suspension /tires could be upgraded .. have you seen the engine bracing on all Mcars .. M3 has significantly stiffened the chassis with bracing..
The B58 and M340 is best sounding and could be best hidden gem.. I sold them and It is a gem imagine adding CSL engine bracing and suspension
I love the conversation about steering feel because for me that is what makes it more fun when it feels a bit heavier but still fast and sporty. I wouldn’t like a fast car with light steering and numb feeling so for me the M340 is overall a better daily but of course the M3 is more performance oriented
coming from a G30 lci 540i to a G80 M3C. is it overpriced? yes. it is worth it? hell yes.
Having owned the latest 340i and now I have the G81 sorry yanks you don’t get it. The 340 is probably the sweet spot for BMWs mega fuel economy fast and a great package, but if you have the cash get the M diff beast. Fuel wise 340 if taken easy motorway can return mid 40s m3 mid 30 think best I’ve had is 37mpg. My only negative on the 340 is it looks a bit meh and I never wanted to wash it. The amount of comments I get about the G81 amazes me
One thing to mention is also the adaptive suspension makes a huge difference in the M340. I have the m-performance standard suspension. And its literally stupid harsh.
how did the M340 exhaust sound soooo much better than the M3's?? Are they both stock? Also I love the fjord blue -- unfortunately I could not get it in my M3 Comp (settled for Yas Marina blue).
B58 sounds better than S55
Probably a difference in emission standards. The M3 being newer. Just like the difference between a 2020 and 2021 M340i
Thanks to you, I was able to make the decision and purchase a 2021 m340i after much consideration. Thank you for the in-depth reviews and also honest opinions, rather than bullshitting it to make people happy. I went through BMW Milwaukee North rather than through IA and I must say, I am so happy with the purchase. Next steps are tuning and downpipes with either an AWE or Valvetronic exhaust.
@@lu6a ayyyeee nice!! And a local 😎👊
The M340i in the video is only rear wheel drive and has a square tire setup. It would feel different if you had m340i Xdrive with staggered wheels on Michelin Pilot Sport 4s. This setup comparison would be a much close comparison to the M3 Competition with the Xdrive with staggered tires setup and with the Michelin Pilot Sport 4s.
Wild cuz the m340 is xDrive
just picked up my M340iX. What a sick ass car. Unfreaking real how fun it is. I can't put it in the garage.
have fun! i 'm loving mine too!
I can’t get past the M3’s grill. Wonderful piece of technology but I don’t think its looks will age well. In ‘22, ordered my M340i with the full shadow line package in portimao blue. I’ve gotten 35 mpgs and made it from 0-60 in 3.6s. Couldn’t be happier. If you don’t care about looks, and just want a track weapon, opt for the M3.
The M340i I had spec'd around this time last year was going to be $72k. That's with every option, the M-sport exhaust, the M-sport carbon fiber trim, etc. You're getting right there within spitting distance of a low mileage used M3 or previous generation M5.
F80 S55 M3 Still the Best ever made 👍
39k in two years on my G80 xdrive. I have never and will never consider any 340 over the G80. I am ordering the 2025 ASAP. I don't care about the price "savings".
You mean depreciation is more impactful on 340i?
@@jankosiek No. I mean spending more on the G80 xdrive vs any 340 is worth it. FYI- I put $25k down on my G80, I'm getting that back and putting it down on my new one. So it kinda still saved me money.
@@ronalddoggett2604 you are buying a new one because you are basically out of warranty now? How much money are you going to lose by upgrading the years? I hear the 2025 xdrive comp has slightly higher hp and slightly faster times stock too. I have a 2023 g80 comp rwd and I really am considering the xdrive, although I only really use my car for fun :-)
@@sgeertt4724 I traded an RS3 for the G80. The price of cars was insanely high when I purchased the G80 so I used the 25k that I got from the sale of RS3 as my down-payment. Same payment, just new car. I'm an now going to use that same money to get the new model. My current G80 is still under warranty and has zero issues. It is really a great spec. I'm only upgrading because I drive it so much. If you get a G80 the Xdrive is the only way to go. Just my opinion...
70k vs 100k
m340i is more comfort on the street, not on track, were bumpy rides are everywhere...... if u buy a m3 and never track is a waste........thats when u get the m340i for daily..........is like buying a 4x4 and u never go offroad!!!
I love how people are complaining about the tires. Yeah change the tires not the suspension right? Tires won’t make a huge difference to how it performed on the track. If they both have summer performance tires they should be performing.
It’s also the driver not just the vehicle.
As an M4 owner though I expect nothing less. I personally dislike m-lite cars, I say save and get an M. Yeah you can push a B58, but you can really push an S58.
Really great video guys. I’m a Brit who is err, a little older than you haha but I’ve been lucky enough to own both an M340i X Drive & now a G82 M4 X Drive.
I think you’re absolutely right that the biggest surprise is just how daily-drivable the M3/4 is. It’s also a fabulous GT btw - drive mine all around Europe. It’s a truly great car.
Is the M3/4 worth the extra? Of course. But the 340i is still a great and very expensive car - many will be stretching themselves to afford one - it certainly would have been a dream car to me when I was your age!
@@colinhardy7203 cheers 🥂
This guy running cookie cutter tyres on the m340i and expecting the world from it. 😅
Cope
@@jyzf that's why no one likes your comment
B58 sounds better imo.
More usable low-end torque/response for around town and daily driver. The m340i also has a more compliant ride quality. I found the M3 ride to be a bit harsh over bumps and road imperfections for daily driving.
Im still am not a fan of the M3 front grill, either.
As a e90 335 owner that I love- always wanted a m340 but seeing how many people buying them, I will buy an. M3 just to remind m340 owners they do t have the real M 😊- they are both different cars engines suspension everything
Carbon fiber CSL grill, some more carbon fiber like front lip, side skirts.. really transform the G80. Also height adjustable lowering springs really transform the looks and handling.. way too much front tire gap and body roll stock. Springs fixed everything
Great review, loving this format. Have already said it, but you guys gotta get a Giulia QV and even just a 2.0T out on this track. I actually went with a 2.0T over an M340i based on chassis tuning and steering and of course the looks. Escalated into a QV which I am picking up this week.
nice! I just secured the Stelvio QV loan for a few weeks from now so stay tuned for that...no one seems to have a Giulia in a fleet anywhere but we'll keep trying
@@dwnshft Amazing! Maybe when I get the QV I'll have to make the trip so you guys can properly test it.
@@AP-cc1uw you’re always welcome 👊
The style 666m wheels are so good 🤩
People who have never owned a real M car, have this impression that they are just slightly faster versions of an M-lite.
There is so much more to a real M car than that.
I had an M140i for 4 years, I tuned it to 455bhp/634nm, upgraded lots of parts even the brakes, and it was a straight line weapon.
That said, I now have a standard OG M2, and it would gap my old car within less than a minute on a twisty road.
Little things like the fact the sound deadening is removed from M cars, that the rear axle carrier is mounted to the chassis with solid mounts, instead of rubber bushes, and a dozen other things, make a real M car a totally different driving experience.
I have had the pleasure of driving both cars, and in my country (due to absurd car taxes) the M3 is twice as expensive as the M340i (both new and second hand). In that scenario, the M340i would win. However, of the price difference would be a lot smaller, I would take the M3 because it’s a monster of a car.
I remember reading somewhere one reason someone not getting a real M was “I don’t trust myself in that car” and that’s relatable 😂
I owned cars of other brands comparable to the M3 and M340. My opinion is, if you have the money to easily buy the M3->Buy it. If you don´t have the money to buy the M3->Can´t buy it, don´t think about it. The interesting situation is when you could have the money to buy the M3, but it would be a significant hit on your economy. That is when you think about this question of getting the M340 or the M3. In this case I think you should ask yourself the question: will you be able to utilize what the car has to offer? I bought the performance version of other brands and ended up rarely going on any track. Of course, it felt good flooring it when entering the highway, for those 2-3 seconds I reached the speed limit. It felt like such a waste, there was so much more in the car than I could use. If now, I were in this financial situation, I would say, the M340 is 100% enough to have fun on the daily drives, if I only drove in public, I would not even consider getting the M3, then there is a much better place for that extra money. I would only spend the extra on the M3 if I am confident, I will have the opportunity push it to its limits regularly, for example if going on tracks is a big part of my life, and I have the skills to effectively drive such cars.
I always say the m lites sound better than the new M cars. I love the F80 generation still. Just perfect ughh wish I got the xdrive in an F80 and the upgraded tech. I believe you can upgrade the regular brakes on the g80 for track use and save the almost 10k from the carbon ceramics I have see plenty of people do it and have no issues. I have got used to the grille over the years, but still wish it was better. great video
Tire difference on these cars is enormous. 225 Tires on that 4000lb M340 is crazy. Just going to some PS4S 255s would have to make a huge difference.
CSL aftermarket grille and the front of the G80 rivals the back views. Stock grille is eh. My 2 cents as a G80 owner.
You got your blinker on because your hands were moving around the steering wheel, instead of holding them steady at 9 & 3.
Gotta go hand over hand in the hairpin mate
Awesome video both cars are great but overall M3 for the win with a nice tune & exhaust upgrade it well sound better but the M340 is still Badass too
It’s funny how people always hated on the new grille and now it’s more loved and demanded then ever
Yup the people who complain about it don’t own one or even driven one and are usually lying lol
Why is there no stick offered in the m340i? I looked for one but can;t find any. I assume they weren't made.
There are none
15:30 I didn’t catch that, so which of the seats are the best in terms of seating comfort? The non carbon fibre seats in the m3? Are these not the same as in the m340i?
The standard seats in the M3 are the most comfortable. The leather is far better in the M in the USA, but I think that varies by region. The buckets are great but they are a compromise imo.
Personally, I think the M340i looks better. If I could have either right now, I’d go with an M340i to get all the aspects of performance and comfort for daily commute and do a down pipe, drop in intake and a tune and call it a day
I so wish they Ould put a stick in a regular 3 and 4, and 5 and M5.
People have reported though that the M3 does get into the high 20s as far as the fuel consumption goes when on the highway and taking it relatively easy. It is surprising your guys' experience was quite different.
m3 if you can afford, m340i if you cant afford a m3 and you use a excuse saying "its the best daily driver out of the bunch"
Better engineered is an understatement… but under driven by many m3 owners. My head def turns more when I see an m3 though
It wasn't always like this. The previous generations genuinely were easier to live with in a M240i or M235i. BMW have clearly sorted out the stiff suspension.
On Short Curvy Tracks: Infinite HP and Torque (M3 w/Xdrive) only buys you 3 seconds lap times over the M340i w/RWD. Difference being acceleration of the M3 vs. M340i. Simple Rule of Thumb: HP affects your maximum speed. Torque affects acceleration, and the time it takes to achieve maximum speed. You will not believe this next comment, but its true: A V-6 Cobra (Tuned 2.8L Ford V-6) is faster than a Ford 427 (485 HP) V-8 Cobra on short curvy tracks simply due to weight difference.
I’d love to own either one eventually
I like the m340i better tbh. That weird grill never grew on me
I’ve owned the M340 and now own a G80 comp X drive the g80 is superior in everything by far except fuel economy
I took a road trip halfway across the country and got 27-28 mpg in my G80. Hearing 20 mpg was a surprise.
I get 20 in mine is yours X drive
@@RS3jack Yes. I tracked it carefully on a trip from MO to NC and back. I got 27-28 on the highway segments for some pretty spirited driving.
@@brentgreen8209you must have a super g80 congrats
Awesome vid!
That front end is a deal breaker on the M3. BMW will go back to a tasteful version in the future.
If you can afford it.... and you like to intimidate others on the road... M3 is a no brainer... 🤭🤭
Had the m3 comp xdrive for 2 years now and yes yes it is worth the money.
As a 340i owner, I would say. Go for m3
If the M3 had the M340i grill it would be the best looking sedan of all time imo
I don't agree. I have both cars and is not possible to say one is better then other. m3 is more on track and fun on the road also daily but m340i is better as a horse. With trailer hitch, auxiliary heating, softer seats and suspension, quiter engine and exhaust, mild hybrid - higher torque low rev, longer range with eco pro is much better for long trips in wild places with higher suspension without engine oil cooler. that's why I keep both. M3 is brutal, loud and you can feel every small hole on the road or all the time engine vibrations. fun starts from 3500rpms. its not like m550i and m5 when m5 its just better in every aspect. I made for a short term 460ps and 750nm in m340 with box and E25 and m3 xdrive was behind me 0-60 km/h but I don't want to destroy this car that's why I bouth m3c xdrive.
No doubt everyone would choose the true M car if money was the same and the new styling is a knockout!
Silly question. Why call the m340i a G20?
It shouldn't be a question.... at all.
M340i daily and M3 for car meets and races ❤
Which car has a higher ground clearance?
Thank you! 🔥🔥 🔥
Next video F80 vs G80? 👀
Now there’s something 😈
I have the m3C xdrive. I drove both cars before,m340 is way more comfortable
For the looks alone m3.. everything else considering its m3 for me over anything even c63s
If I had the money, I’m going with the M3. Unpopular opinion…the M340 looks cooler.
I just went ahead and got a manual CT5V Blackwing. The true W move.
Drove one. Didn’t like it.
why the f would you swap the fronts? that m3 grill for me, is the best looking area
2025 BMW m340i is the best BMW car I ever owned. Hands down.
M-Cars have a feel that none M-cars don’t have. That costs money.
This comparison is only to comfort people who are not able to stretch their budget for M3 but truth be told M3 is just at another level.
that's literally what we said in the video...
M3: 20-30 yrs from now, still look awesome
M340i: 20-30 yrs will still be just another 3 series
What does that say about your Kia then?
@@HittinyaWitDaTruth still another kia?
I have nothing against these two cars as they are both diff animal. I own an F80 comp and love it that's just me! But it does look awesome even now. Just buy what you feel is right for you and be done!
Depends what you want in a car, both are amazing but both are way too heavy to have track fun to be fair
i disgree. you can still have fun
@@dwnshft no one doubts that but your tyres and your brakes will hate you. Multiple laps youd probably lose a lot of pace
fasxtest M car is 2025 M4x. Much harsher daily than the 2025 M440x. I have the M4x, my wife opted for the Audi S5 :) the ride on the audi is amazing, but i just wanted the M4x. I am old now, so i buy what i want. My Bently is cushy when i need cushy.
I was looking for good fun Daily. I really want m4 buuuuut the face. I tried convince myself that it looks great but in the end I choosed m340i 😅 for the Street only in EU is as good as the m3 but it looks much better