Let's hope the Arthur Anderson never gets scrapped she's a historic vessel ..she sailed with the Edmund Fitzgerald on her last voyage in 1975 before the Fitzgerald went down with all hands
3:17 so long American Victory. You shall be missed. I remember when my parents would take me to Duluth when I was young, and sometimes got to watch this ship go by.
I saw her come through extremely heavy fog shortly before they layed her up around 2008. Could barely see anything and they had their fog horns going every couple of minutes. Pretty eerie sight
@@TheReal_Faxzy the fitzgerald was the lead ship of her class of two fitzgerald class lake freighters while the American Fortitude was one of 8 triple a class freighter (same as arthur m anderson and William Clay Ford
@@HomieG-fl9wk where in thee hell did you hear the William A Irvin's horn and where can i find it thanks in advance, ive been looking for a recording for a while
@@Daniel-vx3cf Probably because the Edmund Fitzgerald Horn Videos are of the Edward L Ryerson, since there is no known recordings of the Fitzgeralds horn. The Ryerson and Fitzgerald Had the same horns
It’s the last ship on the Lakes with a connection to the Big Fitz herself. Scrapping her is akin to Cunard White Star scrapping Olympic in 1935. It’s not scrapping a ship: it’s killing history.
Wow a parade of Salties, Lakers, Freighters, Angels of the sea---Coast Guard an Tugs, Research Vessels ❤. Grandest Parade I've ever seen,( pass in review)❤ Thank You an your wonderful editing. Blessings
I remember ~ Years ago when most of those ships were still steam powered, their steam whistles were deep, resonant basso-Profundo in pitch, and if you were near the water when they sounded them, you could feel it resonating in your chest. We were kids, and to us, it looked like they weren’t moving at all, but when we’d run along the waterfront trying to race them, it didn’t take long for them to leave us panting behind. The modern Diesel powered ships have air horns, and although they’re loud as all Hell, they just don’t have that magical presence of the old steam whistles. And it seemed like each one had its own unique sound. Today, it just sounds like you’re hearing a REALLY Big truck blowing its horn.
I did get an update: after researching, it’s the same horn the CBJ have had over their 24 year tenure: a Kahlenburg S-203C Similar to the American Fortitude, however very inconsistent in terms of sound from game to game due to age (similar to the fortitude) Your welcome
Originally, the Fortitude, ex-Ernest T. Weir and Courtney Burton came equipped with a Leslie 300-425DVE steam horn combo that was later taken out of the stack and moved to the self-unloader following the conversion around 1982. In 1994 however, the steam horns on the Burton and the Reserve, which also had the same steam horn combination were replaced with S203C, probably because they got worn out.
Those were two Leslie-300 steam horns and two Leslie 200 air horns. Fun fact: The Leslie 200's were used on old diesel locomotives and the all famous PRR-GG1 electric locomotive. I heard truckers put them on their rigs too!
7:49 Herbert C Jackson used to be a steamship from 2012 to 2017, no way it appears they've turned Herbert C Jackson into a diesel either the horn, the engine or something. I believe Herbert C Jackson is still a steamship they've just remodeled it.
@@orionharmon6017Not for the Lakes. Freshwater means they last forever… the oldest ship currently still operating is from 1942 (Lee A. Tregurtha, a few months older than Alpena), and even carries her original World War II battle ribbons (she was converted from a navy oil tanker). Before that, the oldest ship was St. Mary’s Challenger, built in 1905 (making her older than RMS Mauretania)
I remember everyone of the greatlakes frieghters on here. I grew up on the St. Clair river. My Father sailed in the late 50s too early 60s on The Interlake Steamship Co boats. My favorite frieghter is the E. G. Grace.
Or St. Mary’s Challenger. Over a century of service and older than Titanic, only to be cut up into a barge... shoulda been a museum piece or doing short day cruises instead.
@Karol Matias Sánchez Inda I believe I don't have to tell me because I can see that, I need to know is what is that on the top front of her that's sticking out on the top of the bridge?
Alam Sempurna: Built 1991 Algolake: Built 1976 Algoma Enterprise: Built 1979 Algoma Olympic: Built 1976 Algoma Progress: Built 1968, Scrapped 2015 Algoma Transport: Built 1979 Algontario: Built 1960, Scrapped 2011 Algowood: Built 1981 Alpena: Built 1942!!! American Century: Built 1981 American Fortitude: Built 1953, Scrapped 2015 American Integrity: Built 1978 American Mariner: Built 1979 American Spirit: Built 2005 American Victory: Built 1942!!! scrapped 2018.. Arthur M. Anderson: Built 1952 Beluga Constitution: Built 2006 Beluga Emotion: Built 2004 Billmaier: Built 1969 Birchglen: Built 1983, scrapped 2015 Blue Heron: Built ? Callie M: Built 2015 Canadian Miner: Built 1965, Ran aground during scrap tow on a island, found later then scrapped in 2011. Capt. Henry Jackman: Built 1981, scrapped 2019 Cason j. Callaway: Built 1952 Chestnut: Built 2010 CSL Assiniboine: Built 1977 CSL Niagara: Built 1971 CSL Tadoussac: Built 1969 Edgar B. Speer: Built 1980 Edward H: Built 1970 Edward L. Ryerson: Built 1960, Edwin H. Gott: Built 1979 Federal Maas: Built 1997 H. Lee White: Built 1974 Hemgracht: Built 2016 Herbert C. Jackson: Built 1959 Hon. James L Oberstar: Built 1959 Indiana Harbor: Built 1979 James R. Barker: Built 1976 Jana: Built 2008 John B. Aird: Built 1982, Scrapped 2017 John G. Munson: Built 1952 John J. Boland: Built 1973 Joseph L. Block: Built 1976 Joyce L VanEnkevort: Built 1998 Great Lakes Trader: Built 2000 Kaministiqua: Built 1983 Lake Guardian: Built 1981 Mandarin: Built 1983 Mesabi Miner: Built 1977 Michipicoten: Built 1952 Mottler: Built 2009 Oakglen: Built 1980 Orla: Built 2014 Paul R. Tregurtha: Built 1981 Philip R. Clarke: Built 1951 Presque Isle: Built 1973 Roger Blough: Built 1972 Saguenay: Built 1981, Scrapped 2013 Duluth Lift Bridge: Built 1929, St. Clair: Built 1976 Stewart J. Cort: Built 1971 Sundew: Woah...1944.. Tim S. Dool: Built 1967 Tufty: Built 2009 Vancouverborg: Built 2001 Voorneborg: Built 1999 Walter J. Mcarthy Jr Built: 1977
Yeah. Imagine being out on the water in a rowboat in Duluth, on a foggy day. You hear THAT, look up to see Jackson sailing at you at full speed out of the fog. I’d nope out of there faster than an Olympic rowing team.
@Fr8ers come again? Anderson returned to service last year, ryerson is probably going to go back into service because of all of the new stuff they did to it before lay up, might be turned into a self unloader idk
Oh the Arthur M Anderson still sails the waters Captain Cooper is gone now, in '93 he died anothe skipper charts her the ship he loved so dearly legend of cooper and Fitzgerald didn't die, when ever the storms erect the lakes with their vengeance the spirit of Cooper remains in command
Let's hope the Arthur Anderson never gets scrapped she's a historic vessel ..she sailed with the Edmund Fitzgerald on her last voyage in 1975 before the Fitzgerald went down with all hands
Arthur m Anderson keeps going strong so does Philip r Clarke same can't be said about cason j callaway
I mean the William A. Irving is still alive in Duluth as a museum. Hopefully the same happens to the Anderson. And also alpena, I love alpena.
You said what I was thinking.
3:17 so long American Victory. You shall be missed.
I remember when my parents would take me to Duluth when I was young,
and sometimes got to watch this ship go by.
I say we save her. To hell with big gov and shorty corporations.
@@HMSHOOD1920 she's been already scrapped in Turkey....
I saw her come through extremely heavy fog shortly before they layed her up around 2008. Could barely see anything and they had their fog horns going every couple of minutes. Pretty eerie sight
Her boom is on the new Mark W Barker
2:37 the most beautiful salute on the Great Lakes!
It look like The Edmund Fitzgerald
@@TheReal_Faxzy kinda yeah. But it certainly is not the fitz.
@@TNS17 there a lot of differences
@@TheReal_Faxzy yea a triple a class
@@TheReal_Faxzy the fitzgerald was the lead ship of her class of two fitzgerald class lake freighters while the American Fortitude was one of 8 triple a class freighter (same as arthur m anderson and William Clay Ford
6:30 The Edward L. Ryerson Has The Best Horn In My Opinion
3:31 Arthur M. Anderson. If you know your history, say no more.
No more.
No more.
No More. R.I.P To The Lives Lost On The Big Fitz. Last One In Contact With The Fitz Before she Went Down Was Her Own Sister.
No more
No More. Salute to the Edmund Fitzgerald
4:17 Interesting how they seemingly just painted right over Birchglen's original name, which was the "Federal Richelieu".
Man. The captain of the James R. Barker must be proud of that massive vessel.
Tyler Mac yeah
Tyler Mac it’s departing look
When I lived in Duluth this helped me sleep....😴 I miss hearing the harbour noise.🚤⛵🚢🇺🇸
Tyler Mac usa and Canada
11:07 That would be much better than my current alarm clock. I might actually be awake for a while
Lol, True. I would like that.
6:31
What you all came to hear.
@Aiden Magnuson say what?
@Aiden Magnuson No. It will not take the Irvin's place. It is in Cunning slip right now.
@@HomieG-fl9wk where in thee hell did you hear the William A Irvin's horn and where can i find it
thanks in advance, ive been looking for a recording for a while
2:21 has the same horn as the Columbus Blue Jackets, an S203C!
It’s so interesting that all the ships have different horns. I would have thought they would all sound the same
I think it’s nice that each ship has its own unique sound.
It's sad so many beautiful ships were scrapped!
I agree 😢
These low frequency tones brought to mind the Pachyderm, and its method of long distance communique with low frequencies.
2:19 American Fortitude is one of my favorites! She has a beautiful kahlenburg.
PS she sounds like the Columbus Blue jackets goal horn.
Was the fortitude steam?
@@orvisfisher2010 yes she was , she was originally the SS Ernest t weir in the CSL.
STEAM SALUTES
Alpena 1:44
American victory 3:10
Edward l. Ryerson 6:31
Herbert c. Jackson 7:49
Charles m Beeghly 8:20
Edward almost sounds like edmund
@@Daniel-vx3cf Probably because the Edmund Fitzgerald Horn Videos are of the Edward L Ryerson, since there is no known recordings of the Fitzgeralds horn. The Ryerson and Fitzgerald Had the same horns
The Edwin L Ryerson has such an amazing horn
@@Daniel-vx3cf they used the same horn
If they ever scrap the Anderson i will have a fit
It’s the last ship on the Lakes with a connection to the Big Fitz herself. Scrapping her is akin to Cunard White Star scrapping Olympic in 1935. It’s not scrapping a ship: it’s killing history.
The blough also has a connection to the Fitz sense it was part of the search party for the Fitz
@@TheEmeraldMenOfficialyou've got a point. the Anderson is history, very important history.
Alpena’s steam horns are amazing!
Wow a parade of Salties, Lakers, Freighters, Angels of the sea---Coast Guard an Tugs, Research Vessels ❤. Grandest Parade I've ever seen,( pass in review)❤
Thank You an your wonderful editing. Blessings
One of the best videos of ships and salutes! Thanks.🇺🇸🦅⚔️
Edmund Fitzgerald is 6:32 it has the same horn as the the Edward L. Ryerson.
But lower pitch
4:48.... Please tell me there are still some ship with this Kind of horn
Unfortunately their isnt. The Jackman was the only one that had the duel horn Nathan horn. More bad news she was scrapped in 2019
@@tuckerhager6429 I know. There is someone from aliaga posting almost every ship at the beach on Instagram...
I remember ~ Years ago when most of those ships were still steam powered, their steam whistles were deep, resonant basso-Profundo in pitch, and if you were near the water when they sounded them, you could feel it resonating in your chest. We were kids, and to us, it looked like they weren’t moving at all, but when we’d run along the waterfront trying to race them, it didn’t take long for them to leave us panting behind. The modern Diesel powered ships have air horns, and although they’re loud as all Hell, they just don’t have that magical presence of the old steam whistles. And it seemed like each one had its own unique sound. Today, it just sounds like you’re hearing a REALLY Big truck blowing its horn.
The ocean going salties seem to have kind of high pitched whistles. The lakers all low pitched and powerful!
Not all salties. The Beluga Emotion has a lower pitched whistle.
2:21 *COLUMBUS BLUE JACKETS!!!*
American Fortitude*
@@chevyj655 nono, he's got a point, i swear its the same horn
when did columbus get that horn is now the question
I did get an update: after researching, it’s the same horn the CBJ have had over their 24 year tenure: a Kahlenburg S-203C
Similar to the American Fortitude, however very inconsistent in terms of sound from game to game due to age (similar to the fortitude)
Your welcome
Originally, the Fortitude, ex-Ernest T. Weir and Courtney Burton came equipped with a Leslie 300-425DVE steam horn combo that was later taken out of the stack and moved to the self-unloader following the conversion around 1982. In 1994 however, the steam horns on the Burton and the Reserve, which also had the same steam horn combination were replaced with S203C, probably because they got worn out.
6:31 The voice of the Edmund Fitzgerald.
This horn is quiet the louder recordings are her voice
Your actually correct: Edmund Fitzgerald and Edward L Ryerson have the same horns
(at least until Fitzgerald sank of course)
All the 1000 foot vessels horns are sooooooo good
9:40 that's probably one of the most modest ship horns I have ever heard
John G Munson my favorite ship since my uncle works on it
2:20 the American Fortitudes first blast sounded like the Columbus Blue Jackets
That's the first thing I thought of.
Every one of the horns are used in the NHL is some way
And the American spirit
The lake Guardian sounds like for the AHL goal horns as well
STL Blues
so soothing. this is beautiful.
thank you.
I wouldn’t call the CSL Assiniboine “soothing” but to each their own
What a way to wake up. The video work had to be a labor of LOVE....thanks an hats off
8:13 I just asked that what's that drilling noise when the ship horn blast has sounded and you said it's a air compressor 📯📯💨
8:19 that is a good salute
At 8:20 if I had the horns of the James L. Oberstar on my truck., I could clear out entire intersections and blow out windows........
Those were two Leslie-300 steam horns and two Leslie 200 air horns. Fun fact: The Leslie 200's were used on old diesel locomotives and the all famous PRR-GG1 electric locomotive. I heard truckers put them on their rigs too!
That is illegal
@@rockyfanatic6846 truckers don’t care
Great compilation.
3:11 my second favorite
What's ur first?
It sounds like a saxophone lmao
2:21 American Fortitude sounds like me going through puberty
7:49 Herbert C Jackson used to be a steamship from 2012 to 2017, no way it appears they've turned Herbert C Jackson into a diesel either the horn, the engine or something. I believe Herbert C Jackson is still a steamship they've just remodeled it.
No, she was a steamship from 1959-2015. She was repowered to diesel.
@@bluerazor7049 Oh well that's a long time.
@@orionharmon6017Not for the Lakes. Freshwater means they last forever… the oldest ship currently still operating is from 1942 (Lee A. Tregurtha, a few months older than Alpena), and even carries her original World War II battle ribbons (she was converted from a navy oil tanker).
Before that, the oldest ship was St. Mary’s Challenger, built in 1905 (making her older than RMS Mauretania)
@TheEmeraldMenOfficial Oh wow, that's crazy
12:25 Beautiful horn, beautiful photos.
Interesting how the Billmaier sounds like she’s got a Leslie RS3L, which is more commonly used on locomotives.
It is an RS3L.
I love the American fortitude. And it has the best horn
I remember everyone of the greatlakes frieghters on here. I grew up on the St. Clair river. My Father sailed in the late 50s too early 60s on The Interlake Steamship Co boats. My favorite frieghter is the E. G. Grace.
6:31 SS Edmund Fitzgerald sis horn
10:13 10:46 I think these ships right here are the ones that came in through the flats in my city Cleveland Ohio.
For sure! All these ships have been through there besides the Stewart J. Court
@@tuckerhager6429 I mean really, these ships sure like to travel to another city like trains and planes do. 🚅💕🚅💕✈️✈️🏔🏕
4:56 I like the calloways rear horn
I agree
God bless the Arthur Anderson. She went back into the storm to try to help the E. Fitzgerald.
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@EagleKeeper1916 uwtqtwquwhwqwu
Sad to see ships not that very old scrapped. In the old days lakers would sail for decades, sometimes up to 90+ years like the old EM Ford!
Or St. Mary’s Challenger. Over a century of service and older than Titanic, only to be cut up into a barge... shoulda been a museum piece or doing short day cruises instead.
12:42 Sounds super clean
Aj what are you doing here
@@Jazzygrouch144 I like boats
1:08 man your right that was my favorite ship Edmund Fizgerald😢
how can you top the ryerson.... incredible
You can’t top the Ryerson. She is the prettiest ship on the inland seas and has the best horn (in my opinion).
A Sturgeon From Lake Superior you will be pleased to *hear* (heh) that Edmund Fitzgerald sounded identical to Ryerson.
Throw all of them into one
4:34 4:49 Nice beautiful horns, I love it 😍😍❤️👍📯📯🔊
Tyler Mac me too
10:04 personally my favorite
I feel bad when I see scrapped vessels. but this is an amazing video!!
6:31 Edward l Ryerson sound like it got a cruise ship horn 🌊🚢🌊📯📯
Those Leslie airchimes sound terrfic, Leslie 300 and 425 🥴🥴
@Karol Matias Sánchez Inda I believe I don't have to tell me because I can see that, I need to know is what is that on the top front of her that's sticking out on the top of the bridge?
4:03 sounds like a Leslie RS5T train horn
*RS3L
I'm probably not the last hockey fan here and most of the horns used are the same model of horns used in many of the nhl arenas today
8:59 I got to hear this in person in 2018… WOW
That’s so lucky it’s my dream to hear that In person
@@Kayden_trackside2457 I couldn’t hear anything else…! It was incredible.
0:17 this horn is cool
It’s SpongeBob’s alarm clock bro
Ryerson with the steam whistles
This tyfon horns are so good, wish there were still more steamers left.
I seen the Calloway up close before its amazing
The Goal Horns are actually the same horn American Spirit has 3:03
i am hoping to get to see or go on one of the boats that date back to the WW II if by than if any are left
There are two left. The ss Alpena and the Lee A Tregurtha
Why was 2015 a big year for breaking many of these majestic ships?
I love the Stewart J. Cort
1:10 a train pass by
It’s actually the bridge
I’m a fan of Great Lakes ships my dad seen some of these ships like the fortitude and victory
8:59 a ship has launched
1:11 why does canadian transport have a train horn
That’s the bridge horn.
The Ryerson has a very regal sounding horn.
I hope they never scrap the Arthur Anderson after the heroic act as the Capt turned back around to look for any sign of the Fitzgerald.
Yes
Alam Sempurna: Built 1991
Algolake: Built 1976
Algoma Enterprise: Built 1979
Algoma Olympic: Built 1976
Algoma Progress: Built 1968, Scrapped 2015
Algoma Transport: Built 1979
Algontario: Built 1960, Scrapped 2011
Algowood: Built 1981
Alpena: Built 1942!!!
American Century: Built 1981
American Fortitude: Built 1953, Scrapped 2015
American Integrity: Built 1978
American Mariner: Built 1979
American Spirit: Built 2005
American Victory: Built 1942!!! scrapped 2018..
Arthur M. Anderson: Built 1952
Beluga Constitution: Built 2006
Beluga Emotion: Built 2004
Billmaier: Built 1969
Birchglen: Built 1983, scrapped 2015
Blue Heron: Built ?
Callie M: Built 2015
Canadian Miner: Built 1965, Ran aground during scrap tow on a island, found later then scrapped in 2011.
Capt. Henry Jackman: Built 1981, scrapped 2019
Cason j. Callaway: Built 1952
Chestnut: Built 2010
CSL Assiniboine: Built 1977
CSL Niagara: Built 1971
CSL Tadoussac: Built 1969
Edgar B. Speer: Built 1980
Edward H: Built 1970
Edward L. Ryerson: Built 1960,
Edwin H. Gott: Built 1979
Federal Maas: Built 1997
H. Lee White: Built 1974
Hemgracht: Built 2016
Herbert C. Jackson: Built 1959
Hon. James L Oberstar: Built 1959
Indiana Harbor: Built 1979
James R. Barker: Built 1976
Jana: Built 2008
John B. Aird: Built 1982, Scrapped 2017
John G. Munson: Built 1952
John J. Boland: Built 1973
Joseph L. Block: Built 1976
Joyce L VanEnkevort: Built 1998
Great Lakes Trader: Built 2000
Kaministiqua: Built 1983
Lake Guardian: Built 1981
Mandarin: Built 1983
Mesabi Miner: Built 1977
Michipicoten: Built 1952
Mottler: Built 2009
Oakglen: Built 1980
Orla: Built 2014
Paul R. Tregurtha: Built 1981
Philip R. Clarke: Built 1951
Presque Isle: Built 1973
Roger Blough: Built 1972
Saguenay: Built 1981, Scrapped 2013
Duluth Lift Bridge: Built 1929,
St. Clair: Built 1976
Stewart J. Cort: Built 1971
Sundew: Woah...1944..
Tim S. Dool: Built 1967
Tufty: Built 2009
Vancouverborg: Built 2001
Voorneborg: Built 1999
Walter J. Mcarthy Jr Built: 1977
i just noticed this goes alphabetically
Well done.
You forgot coast guard 45628
@@Geminifan20 it's kinda impossible to get that information.
Blue Heron was built in 1985
11:07 Peoria Rivermen goal horn
Kahlenburg for the win! Yeah!
Herbert C. Jackson when it was steam powered sounded ominous.
Yeah. Imagine being out on the water in a rowboat in Duluth, on a foggy day. You hear THAT, look up to see Jackson sailing at you at full speed out of the fog. I’d nope out of there faster than an Olympic rowing team.
Reminds me of old 20’s steam horns you’d hear in movies
4:49 Capt. Henry Jackman was scrapped and the new version of Capt. Henry Jackman was built
This is haunting and very cool too.
Roger Blough Arthur Anderson Munson Ryerson are my favs. I pray they are never scrapped.
As of now we have to pray for Ryerson and Anderson, they’re both in permanent layup now. ;c Roger has many years to come for now.
@Fr8ers come again? Anderson returned to service last year, ryerson is probably going to go back into service because of all of the new stuff they did to it before lay up, might be turned into a self unloader idk
They're repairing the Ryerson. She'll be back 2025
It’s sad that some of these ships are in permanent layup now. Like the Edward L Ryerson and the Arthur M Anderson
dude the Arthur m anderson is not in permanet layup it says in service since 2017
Why? are they turning it into a Muesem? or are they scrapping it. Or just letting it rust.
RIP American victory 1943-2018
NOW ARTHUR TOO??? FFS
@@fishtug2420 are you sure if so YES!
3:11 what type of tyfons does she have?
Isn’t that a Leslie S3L on the Billmaier?
RS3L to be exact.
11:53 Theres a game on roblox called paddleboat shipping xl,and it has the same horn as the Michipicoten.
what horn did American fortitude have?
Love the steam horns
Didn’t Canadian Miner run aground when she was being towed to the scrappers?
A shame nobody has any horn samples from the Edmund Fitzgerald.
Fitzgerald sounded identical to Edward L. Ryerson. That chord was at one point commonplace... and now it is unique.
@@TheEmeraldMenOfficial better would be the Arthur b Homer, her twin
@@TheEmeraldMenOfficial yea lots of ships used Leslie tyfons but lots of ships used them and they all sounded different so you would be incorrect
They are all so similar that it wld be of little note.
Alpena is the best in my mind
Robert Poirier I’m a Ryerson guy, but I do like Alpena as a ship.
I love boughs duel horns the alpena and the roger bough are my two favs
More of a Ryerson and Barker guy here.
Nice work
What does 1 long and 2 short blasts mean?
IMO the steam horns win hand down. Unfortunate so many of the lakers are being scrapped. I'm not seeing new ones coming online.
My very favorite is the James R. Barker dual sounding. Still after watch many come into the Harbor Barker is the best.
Beautiful horn is of James.r.Barker❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊
the blast of ship horn were like music
10:13 MV John J. Boland's horn is a banger 🎉🎉🎉
What horns does Alpena have?
Two Leslie 300’s, steam
Its sad the number of ships that have been scrapped you would think they could get many more years of service out of them
Ship horns are simply badass
0:30 i wonder if this was the horn they sampled for Spongebob's alarm clock
I wonder what happened to your four Ship Salute Videos.
Oh the Arthur M Anderson still sails the waters Captain Cooper is gone now, in '93 he died anothe skipper charts her the ship he loved so dearly legend of cooper and Fitzgerald didn't die, when ever the storms erect the lakes with their vengeance the spirit of Cooper remains in command