I’ve had my LC4 640 for 20 years and never been able to kickstart it. Just watched your video, been out to the garage and started it first time. Thanks mate
I own a 620 for a few years and i am not planning to swap it for another bike. LC4 engines are IMO best KTM motorcycles. I never had problems with starting LC4, my procedure is : 1. Pull choke, and decompression lever, and kick it 3-7 times if motorcycle wasn't running for few days (to prime carburetor with gasoline). 2. Then slowly push on kicker till you feel resistance (choke on, decomp off), when you feel resistance, pull decomp lever ON, and push kicker 1 notch more, release decomp, and let kicker go up. 3. Turn ignition ON, choke still ON, and kick it all the way. Mine runs from 1st, rarely 2nd kick. If you was riding today, or like 1-2 days before you can try to skip step 1, and just kick it with choke. So basically procedure same as yours, but mine have older Dellorto carburetor, so instead of adding gas one time, i kick it with choke few times - same result. Your 660 have Keihin carburetor if i am correct which is way better design. :)
Just like you start a LC4 640 apart from the little black button(different carby). I think its the decomp lever that gets people, they kick the thing to far through the stroke, past the ignition point(spark), the idea is to get the piston just about top dead centre, that first bump you feel, push the starter through that with the decomp lever pulled, then lift the kick starter let the decomp go and "KICK it!", its a "knack", but not difficult. very similar to the old XT/TT 500 and some others. I just kick started a 2003 640SM that had been sitting for more than a year, took about 10 kicks including "kick through's" (ignition off, tap on, choce on, decomp pulled), no trouble never changed fuel either before starting, runs like clock.
I had one back a while ago and miss it so much I could cry 🏍️ it was so mean and so beautiful that getting her started was wearth all the memories, Lost her doing Willy's to work 😭
got a 2006 640 enduro with electric starter battery is ok but every now and again electric starter does not krank have to help it with decompressor lever i m able to kick start it when hot but not when cold
I have 2 2001 dukes 640. Liked it so much I bought another. They have electric start, but I've kick started it many times. Good stuff. I never knew the 660 didn't have a electric starter either.
Well done 👍👌 I've got a 660 smc and didn't know about the click for the first 6 months of owning her . For some reason they have a terrible reputation for blowing up however I have had mine for 8 years and it's been excellent 😀 loads of oil and filter changes ,great fun also got a 1290r which is awesome as well .
I think a lot of people don't know about the click ,or tdc . I know when I bought mine 8 years ago the guy that sold it to me kicked it 3 times with decompresser pulled in and next kick it started , just lucky I think
@@alasdairhill5166 Yeah, 4 stroke bikes usually have e-start, and people who cannot kick LC4, or other 4 stroke engines, in 99% cases are used to kicking 2 strokes where you just simply kick it to run - no need of finding TDC, and other "black magic". :)
Most of the times the problem was, that the gas in the float bowl was a few days old and wouldn't ignite. After 8 months i Was able to start her 2nd kick with fresh fuel. I always use the choke when the engine is cold, never use the accelerator pump for starting since. Fresh fuel is the most important thing for a single to fire up. I always try to shut the gas cock half a minute or a minute before I arrive at my destination to run the bowl almost empty.
I saw this video in the right time cause i just bought a ktm lc4 prestige 640 and the electric ⚡ is off so i have the only option to kickstart and is a pain in the ass
You can also start the engine in a small downhill road. Roll the bike ,hold clutch , engage 2nd gear and when about 30Km/h release the clutch and it will start. Done it so many times.
@@GradelyNoShow i am not a mechanic, but i cant think of a way that this can hurt the engine, its like using the e-starter but you are using the force of the wheels touching on the ground to start the engine.
Do that with a ktm 660 won't work. Way 2 much compression, and IF it egnites want to start the speed you have is slower then second gear, so it's little dangerous.
Mine doesn’t want to start with the choke on,only without it,if you pull it after it fires,it will shut off..i think the jets in the carb are a little messed up
I guess you allready figured out in 11month but you Can follow the same procedure but when you hear the click sound instead of just let the kick come up and directly kick it, After you let the kick come up you juste use the decompressor and you activate the kick for like 90 degree slowly, then let it go up once again and then kick it hard. This will take a lot of compression out and normaly that's how you kick start it because of race cam.
Nice bike, is there a reason to kick-start the bike while un-mounted or is it a preference? I have the 04 SMC625 with e-start but occasionally kick it over just to see if everything is still dialed in.
My 96 rxc 620 didn't start after I washed it, then it started hours later and then again completely died on me a couple miles down the road all in the same day any suggestions
Du bor inte nära Stockholms området? Jag bytte en r6:a från 02 till en 2004 660smc för nått år sen. Fick igång den en gång genom att rulla igång den men aldrig lyckats med kicken :)
Im a mechanic here in the Phillippines tjis 640 is so hard to start my leg is aching and it my shoe so idecide to lower the comprrssion by adding extra gasket on the base of the block to alittle bit low compression just to test after i work on it
I'm planning to buy a KTM 660 for myself but I'm concerned about his reliability, since you have It, could you give me a heads up? Hope your tutorial will come in handy hahaha
Yea, it's nice bikes but service is very often, hard to start and even when you get used it's not funny. They don't ride good for short or long distance, only fun is dooing wheelies all day long... Don't recommend these bikes. A juiced up Yamaha xt660 is WAY mor bike for the money, super nice bike in every way. Yes it's little less on power but it's easy fixed.
@@kimhagman Oh okay, so It needs more care....but what concerned me the most is that I heard these kind of bikes need a rebuild of the engine after some time...like every 5000 km you need to change the piston and other components, I don't know if it's true or I can just ride it untill 50.000 km only by changing oil every 3.000 km.
Please help me 😢. I have a 2004 LC4 660 with a new reconditioned engine (total cost 3000 euros) and now: New plug, new carburetor gasket, new fuel and start only few times and with difficulty only without pulling any carburetor lever. Please help me. Nobody know this engine here! Leonardo 🇮🇹
if your carb isn't set up correctly, it'll be a pain in the ass to start. Do you have the FCR carb? If yes, go search for videos about setting them up.
I thought the trick to avoid kickback is to kick it all the way down and hold it there for a moment. If the engine is turning backwards then it can´t push the lever up because it´s not engaged any more. Here is a guy who does it with his hand: watch?v=25Duswwrv2U
I’ve had my LC4 640 for 20 years and never been able to kickstart it. Just watched your video, been out to the garage and started it first time. Thanks mate
Omg that's awesome! 😁
Hey, I just bought a 660 SMC 06 mod. Does these bikes come with el start also? Mine only has kick 😅
@@FahreFilms I have seen one 660 (03-05) with el start but it must be really rare.
That is amazing! It was high time you started it 🤣
damn what a dedication to not sell it in all those years
Why is every swedish person so nice? I mean... seriously you made such a great tutorial👍 appreciate it man 💪🏽 Greetings from 🇩🇪
Big thanks 🙏
Thanks mate, i just bought an old 2000 LC4 640 and you just saved my day.
I own a 620 for a few years and i am not planning to swap it for another bike. LC4 engines are IMO best KTM motorcycles.
I never had problems with starting LC4, my procedure is :
1. Pull choke, and decompression lever, and kick it 3-7 times if motorcycle wasn't running for few days (to prime carburetor with gasoline).
2. Then slowly push on kicker till you feel resistance (choke on, decomp off), when you feel resistance, pull decomp lever ON, and push kicker 1 notch more, release decomp, and let kicker go up.
3. Turn ignition ON, choke still ON, and kick it all the way. Mine runs from 1st, rarely 2nd kick.
If you was riding today, or like 1-2 days before you can try to skip step 1, and just kick it with choke.
So basically procedure same as yours, but mine have older Dellorto carburetor, so instead of adding gas one time, i kick it with choke few times - same result. Your 660 have Keihin carburetor if i am correct which is way better design. :)
Only disadvantage of older lc4 is horrible vibration. This was the main reason why I sold mine.
same procedure and good startup even on my 93 lc4 er-600
Just like you start a LC4 640 apart from the little black button(different carby). I think its the decomp lever that gets people, they kick the thing to far through the stroke, past the ignition point(spark), the idea is to get the piston just about top dead centre, that first bump you feel, push the starter through that with the decomp lever pulled, then lift the kick starter let the decomp go and "KICK it!", its a "knack", but not difficult. very similar to the old XT/TT 500 and some others.
I just kick started a 2003 640SM that had been sitting for more than a year, took about 10 kicks including "kick through's" (ignition off, tap on, choce on, decomp pulled), no trouble never changed fuel either before starting, runs like clock.
Hi this video was very helpful, for any one that is still struggling it is not about forcing just about the technic so keep practicing.
I had one back a while ago and miss it so much I could cry 🏍️ it was so mean and so beautiful that getting her started was wearth all the memories, Lost her doing Willy's to work 😭
got a 2006 640 enduro with electric starter battery is ok but every now and again electric starter does not krank have to help it with decompressor lever i m able to kick start it when hot but not when cold
I had a husaberg 650 FC. Just get past TDC and jump on if hard, don't be scared of it, fired up every time. Great video. Cheers.
I have 2 2001 dukes 640. Liked it so much I bought another. They have electric start, but I've kick started it many times. Good stuff. I never knew the 660 didn't have a electric starter either.
My 625 SMC was blessed with a kick and electric start , wish I still had it
U made it look easy, I'm about to try to start my motorcycle for the first time ever,.
Very similar to my XR650R. Same story as your KTM, lots of owners gave up on that bike because they didn't know the secret handshake
Well done 👍👌 I've got a 660 smc and didn't know about the click for the first 6 months of owning her . For some reason they have a terrible reputation for blowing up however I have had mine for 8 years and it's been excellent 😀 loads of oil and filter changes ,great fun also got a 1290r which is awesome as well .
that's why they come with a user manual!
I dont understand how people struggle to start them. They are very simple and easy to start they just take some knowledge.
I think a lot of people don't know about the click ,or tdc . I know when I bought mine 8 years ago the guy that sold it to me kicked it 3 times with decompresser pulled in and next kick it started , just lucky I think
@@alasdairhill5166 Yeah, 4 stroke bikes usually have e-start, and people who cannot kick LC4, or other 4 stroke engines, in 99% cases are used to kicking 2 strokes where you just simply kick it to run - no need of finding TDC, and other "black magic". :)
Most of the times the problem was, that the gas in the float bowl was a few days old and wouldn't ignite. After 8 months i Was able to start her 2nd kick with fresh fuel. I always use the choke when the engine is cold, never use the accelerator pump for starting since. Fresh fuel is the most important thing for a single to fire up.
I always try to shut the gas cock half a minute or a minute before I arrive at my destination to run the bowl almost empty.
Really thanks mate, i bought one last week and can't kick it for this whole week. Thankss
I saw this video in the right time cause i just bought a ktm lc4 prestige 640 and the electric ⚡ is off so i have the only option to kickstart and is a pain in the ass
Mine wouldn’t start with the electric starter but once I used this technique, it started right up!
Wow I'm so glad you get it started 😁🏍
I never gave it any gas on throttle but I bought mine from a knowledgeable guy who used to bump start it!
You can also start the engine in a small downhill road. Roll the bike ,hold clutch , engage 2nd gear and when about 30Km/h release the clutch and it will start. Done it so many times.
Does this hurt the engine in any way?
@@GradelyNoShow i am not a mechanic, but i cant think of a way that this can hurt the engine, its like using the e-starter but you are using the force of the wheels touching on the ground to start the engine.
Do that with a ktm 660 won't work.
Way 2 much compression, and IF it egnites want to start the speed you have is slower then second gear, so it's little dangerous.
Mine doesn’t want to start with the choke on,only without it,if you pull it after it fires,it will shut off..i think the jets in the carb are a little messed up
Greetings from Las Vegas. Thank you
Thanks for the video yesterday it kept me out of a lot of trouble
I have a 06 lc4 660 with a race cam and high compression piston!!
It’s an absolute sod to start that any tips there????
Yes man up and kick it
I guess you allready figured out in 11month but you Can follow the same procedure but when you hear the click sound instead of just let the kick come up and directly kick it, After you let the kick come up you juste use the decompressor and you activate the kick for like 90 degree slowly, then let it go up once again and then kick it hard. This will take a lot of compression out and normaly that's how you kick start it because of race cam.
Nice one good job 🤙
I do not have spark on my 640 adventure. Do you know what I should check?
_KTM LC4 , i love these bikes ...._
Nice bike, is there a reason to kick-start the bike while un-mounted or is it a preference? I have the 04 SMC625 with e-start but occasionally kick it over just to see if everything is still dialed in.
It's nice to put weight to the kick. It's easier 😊
Thank you! You’ e got a les subscriber. I’m getting my 625 on thuesday 😁
Have à Nice day!
My 96 rxc 620 didn't start after I washed it, then it started hours later and then again completely died on me a couple miles down the road all in the same day any suggestions
Black button on carb is on hot start
Haha i had one of these i knew a few people who sold them because they couldn't start them. It's.easy when you know how!😅
Can I kickstart with a dead battery
Wowwwwww thanks for sharing the information.
Thank you for watching 💪
Du bor inte nära Stockholms området? Jag bytte en r6:a från 02 till en 2004 660smc för nått år sen. Fick igång den en gång genom att rulla igång den men aldrig lyckats med kicken :)
is she easy to start once she is warmed up ,looking at buying one very soon
Nice sound. Great.
Que tal mi pana. Tendo una 640 lc4 me podrias ayudar con el tiempo de la moto, pa poderla prender, encender
Is it normal to kickback ? i tried and now my leg is hurting ):
Yes when you kicking it wrong or to lame. Must be exactly as video 🤣
@@kimhagman Okay, i have to train a little :D
@@kimhagman i finally got it running, thanks !
@@ColaFx awesome 😁👌
thank you, a great presentation.
Im a mechanic here in the Phillippines tjis 640 is so hard to start my leg is aching and it my shoe so idecide to lower the comprrssion by adding extra gasket on the base of the block to alittle bit low compression just to test after i work on it
just push the button
I have a 2001 LC4 and I took the decompression lever off
What button
That is exactly how I start my 1998 YZ400F.
Man how tall are you? Because i really like the 660 but i'm 1,73 (5'8) do you think that i'm too short?
I'm 188 cm its hard if you are to skinny and small
Whats your bike bevore the lc 4 ? ?
Mooooin Markus
How big is the fuel tank on this bike (fuel tank + reserve)? And how many kilometers do you get on one tank?
I'm planning to buy a KTM 660 for myself but I'm concerned about his reliability, since you have It, could you give me a heads up? Hope your tutorial will come in handy hahaha
Yea, it's nice bikes but service is very often, hard to start and even when you get used it's not funny.
They don't ride good for short or long distance, only fun is dooing wheelies all day long...
Don't recommend these bikes.
A juiced up Yamaha xt660 is WAY mor bike for the money, super nice bike in every way. Yes it's little less on power but it's easy fixed.
@@kimhagman Oh okay, so It needs more care....but what concerned me the most is that I heard these kind of bikes need a rebuild of the engine after some time...like every 5000 km you need to change the piston and other components, I don't know if it's true or I can just ride it untill 50.000 km only by changing oil every 3.000 km.
@@Nub_Pootin no its a lie this has to be done only on motocross bikes not supermotard or enduro unless something bad happen inside the engine
It's the same with the 525 if a never had the decompression lever my bike be sold 🤣
So who knows about the pain of starting a Yamaha wr426?
Come on bro,look on my ssrider7 chanell how to turn KTM SC...had few 600ccm ktms
Is looking like 640
Please help me 😢. I have a 2004 LC4 660 with a new reconditioned engine (total cost 3000 euros) and now: New plug, new carburetor gasket, new fuel and start only few times and with difficulty only without pulling any carburetor lever. Please help me. Nobody know this engine here!
Leonardo 🇮🇹
if your carb isn't set up correctly, it'll be a pain in the ass to start. Do you have the FCR carb? If yes, go search for videos about setting them up.
It would be easier to start a revolution of the people than that bike lmao
if it kicks back then it's not good in the first place !!
lol both my lc4 start easy as
I thought the trick to avoid kickback is to kick it all the way down and hold it there for a moment. If the engine is turning backwards then it can´t push the lever up because it´s not engaged any more. Here is a guy who does it with his hand: watch?v=25Duswwrv2U