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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ย. 2022
- I bought a 50 second Element Fire Extinguisher for my Jeep Scrambler. I had watched a few test videos on TH-cam but wanted to test it myself.
We put a 50/50 mix of used motor oil and gasoline into three drain pans and built a wood fire. We lit up everything and tried the Element Extinguisher on them.
Unfortunately it failed pretty good. I really had high hopes as I wanted to put the 100 second extinguisher in my kitchen and garage and 50 second ones in all my vehicles.
It was a little windy but not too bad. You can see from the flames and pattern of chemical coming out of the Element. It did put the fire out in the immediate front of the extinguisher but if ANY flame was left, it re-lit. The Element did not have enough output to kill even the first pan of fire. I was hoping to put them all out. And I had to get very close to the fire to have any effect.
Even the wood fire was a challenge for the Element. The flames went out quickly but as soon as the red hot coals got new air, they re-lit too. This was 100% wood - we lit small pieces first. No fuel or other starter material was used on the wood fire.
It burnt for more than the 50 seconds so that was good.
We should have filmed it but all four fires were easily and quickly put out by the traditional 5 lb First Alert dry chemical extinguisher I have always carried. There was a decent amount left in the extinguisher too after putting out all of the fires.
I think the Element might be okay on small fires where the spray can totally cover the fire and ALL fuel. But seeing how easily and quickly the traditional extinguisher worked, I can't chance it with just an Element. Yes, you have the mess to clean up but at least the fire is out and the damage was limited.
If anyone has any feedback on the test, please leave it below. For me, I will continue to carry a dry chemical extinguisher or two. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Wow !! I was considering buying a few of these until I watched your video. Thanks for saving me some money.
These are designed for inside a vehicle or home where the smoke can be trapped and suffocate the fire. I don’t see this as a good representation of the intended use.
@@Travis7109 they commercial this to be use on vehicle.. just imagine if the fire start in engine bay area and its the same open space situation when the vehicle hood pop open..
I'm not sure these are intended for fires that have been burning for a long time.
I don't think anyone is going to save their house with any fire extinguisher on a fire that has been burning for an hour.
And your life. Lol
@@Travis7109at the end of the day it didn't do so well
thumbs up for you guys !!!! This is a shame that things like this are sold and rip people off. I almost bought a few actually...you saved quite a few bucks!!!thanx a million
Dayum..glad I watched this
Thank you for spending $75 and testing it out. Interesting results.....
Oh my gosh, I've been seeing these everywhere and I'm so glad I did a TH-cam search before buying. Definitely not getting one for my car if it can't handle a little bit of wind. In the video's I've watched it seems like you have to get super close to the fire too, seems dangerous. Thank you!
yeah its a shame that they scammed us with the product like that, if it cant takedown the fire like that how they will help to extinguish a vehicle fire which usually involved gasoline and oil.. those walmart aerosol spray can extinguisher such as ezfire and tundra work better than this.
Thank you for this real-world review!!
Very glad for this video. 9/10 tests of these things are sponsored and they still performed mediocre. This is one of maybe 3 videos out there that show how bad they really can be, even when you get within inches of a fire with them. If that wasn’t a deal breaker, the cost and one time use nature should be.
His shoe did much better than the alleged extinguisher 😂
the wood fire attempt is a good example of how water is great at reducing the temperature below the ignition /re-ignition point as well as suffocating the fire. The device shown suffocates it, but doesn't lower the temperature at all, so it re-ignites once oxygen is reintroduced
- when used improperly. The user did not use it according to the instructions on the actual extinguisher. These do work as intended when used as intended.
@@ZachM1 I guess the intended usage is dildo with smokescreen? That's what it looks like.
I was going to buy one of these to carry on my motorcycle but this changed my mind. Thanks for saving me money!
100% just get a smaller version of the traditional ones if you can find a spot to fit it.
I mean for a motorcycle it's better than nothing. 80 bucks is a hard pill to swallow though
I was going to buy a few until I watched your video. Thank you for doing that you saved me a lot of money.
Element: "A fool and his money are soon parted"
Awesome video! Real world test. Imagine having one of these thinking you are prepared. You might have just saved some lives here.
True hero. Thanks for the video and saving people's life. This video helps so much because it shows others what not to buy for your families saftey or car saftey. Literally saves life's when showing products on videos what they do. That way other people know that oh we were going to make a wrong choice and be safer getting a different choice.
the old fire extinguisher is like attacking the fire, but this one is like kissing the fire..
Thanks for the review. I wanted to buy a few of these to put in my car.
I had this exact extinguisher on my Amazon wish list. I want to pull the trigger last night and buy it, but I read the reviews underneath it and it gave me second thoughts after watching a few videos I’m going to buy a different fire extinguisher.
Thing is, it strangled the fire successfully but didn't cool it. Flammable gases the wood was producing were concentrating briefly, then the wind would not only fan the coals again but the strangling gas would get pushed off and it would flame again with more vigor - in cycles.
I can see a use for this. But to get a fire to go out and stay out, it has to NOT have an inflammable material hot enough and in contact with oxygen - this briefly displaced the oxygen in the wind and that's all.
There are other ways of producing heat, of course, but a fire is essentially rapid oxygenation that looks and acts like we expect it to in our experience of fires - there are better technical definitions, but imho the best definition for this is language plus common experience.
Even compressed CO2 cools a fire to some degree due to rapid decompression - the way air conditioners work - plus of course the sheer quantity of a gas that's cooler than the necessary temperature while strangling it all.
The guy who said just kick dirt over it elsewhere in comments was right. That both cools it and smothers it pretty permanently. Depends on how much dirt you can kick, though, where you are, and what's on top of the dirt.
It's not useless, but it is limited. It might help, possibly a great deal, in combination with using other smothering or cooling techniques. And in those few cases where simply putting out the flame in a limited area would be enough, I could see it solving the most immediate issue on its own.
There were moments you could see it actually stoking the wood fire embers cause it was blowing so much more air than retardant 😂😂
It makes sense that you throw it inside of an enclosed space and allow the co2 to suffocate the fire. Seems like what it would be for.
Thank you for posting this! I _almost_ purchased a few, then I decided to look for tests of people using them. Very glad I did, lol.
Thanks a million dude you are life saver, I was about to buy 3 pieces of it.
What happened
No cut of fire Y ?
The wind was constantly feeding oxygen to those fires and the extinguisher couldn't snuff it out. So this may work in an enclosed space? Not ideal for outside use? Thanks for the demo man!
I left this comment as a reply elsewhere, but feeling the urge to share it as a top-level comment since it has some knowledge (I think.)
I was disappointed to see it didn't work well for these fires, but given the technology, it's expected. CO2 would've done the same, except the force might've actually spread the liquid fires.
The mechanism these use is actually well-established tech that's been successfully used for a long time in indoor fire suppression systems. Look up potassium-aerosol generator if interested; you can find info about their effectiveness and companies selling systems. This company just made that technology portable.
That said, while the tech unquestionably works, it won't work for every fire. That's why there are _dozens_ of extinguisher types; not 1 size fits all. The company is to blame for not including these caveats in their marketing material. (Which means people will end up using them where they don't work well.)
Spot on - one extinguisher does not fit all fire types.
Vinwiki been trying to peddle this thing for a month now.
Thanks for a real live demonstration
Had to use one of these ones did literally nothing fire dies down until you remove the extinguisher and it flames up again
I was very disappointed in this video. I wanted to know how this extinguisher compares to the alternative most people would mount in their vehicle. And, I would prefer the fire to be more like what I might expect from a vehicle break-down that starts as a minor fire. (not an accident situation). This is what I hate about many videos. No real-world expected condition or use comparison. If a 2.35 pound halotron bottle does the same thing as this in the same conditions; then this would have been a useful video for what I want to know for making a choice.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO! SAVED ME FROM BUYING AN INEFFECTIVE FIRE EXTINGUISHER!
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Wow its almost like feeding fire forced air isnt a good idea.
FACE/PALM ELEMENT... back to the drawing board. I almost ordered some of these...
You had to kick 🦵 the fire in the liver to stop it 🤣 damn it I was about to buy many thanks 👍
You're using it wrong. Holding it too close to the grease fire and not holding it there long enough. When you briefly held it further back it extinguished a large portion of the grease fire, but you need to hold it there until the grease has time to cool below its flash point.
"Fire extinguisher"
Literally feeds the grease fire 😂🔥
Nearly got me... I was looking at an option to replace my cumbersome heavy fire extinguisher in my vehicle but definitely not with these if they cant even put out a simple wood fire.
Thanks for uploading ♥️🇮🇳
Maybe the fire is now safe to Touch?
Wow it worked great!! I better get a few before they run out.
Thanks for Saving my Family‘s live
Thank you for saving me 100 bucks! I was considering buying one of this... WAAAAS!
Whoa. I was going to buy a couple of these for my boat. I guess I'll stick with the traditional kind.
Would the traditional kind work any better in this scenario? (Windy, significantly fueled fire? I am left just guessing.)
@@jimslimm6090 Valid question and since he didn't do a side-by-side comparison, I can only speculate but my assumption is that yes, a traditional extinguisher would probably work better. The type of extinguisher comes into play as well but in general, I would say most would have fully extinguished it based on my somewhat limited use.
Again, only speculation but that would be a good test to see the real results.
These were originally designed for use in the Russian space program so wind is its Achilles heel. May be more effective in combating small indoor fires.
Glad I didn’t waste money on these. Thank you
Jesus, I swear I just put one of these in my car today. There goes $75 wasted
Why wouldn't you just buy a small vehicle fire extinguisher rather than wasting your money on a gimmick? You could have went to Walmart and got a Kiddie brand fire extinguisher that will easily fit in any trunk for like $20-$40. It's honestly uneverving how many people probably have shit fire protection and think it works....until they need it and it doesn't....
Nah, your $75 isn't wasted--you just need to save it for indoor use**. The primary issue here really is the wind. Other mess-free extinguishers, like CO2, would have a similar issue.
Each extinguishing agent has fires it is best suited to. Potassium-aerosol generators (like this) are legit, but they're normally used for built-in permanently installed indoor extinguishers where they don't have to contend with the elements.
I have always carried the small dry chemical type in my vehicles. There are many advantages to the Element but a fire in wind is not one of them. I was hoping I could carry it in place of the traditional ones but this test showed me what I needed to know.
@@Apollo55_ Only use Halcyon in a vehicle fire, otherwise, you're going to be cleaning chalk like dust out of your car's engine for years.
@@christschool I think if your car is on fire you have bigger issues dude. And I assume you mean Halon, which is extremely toxic to breath, and I don't want that in my car.
Awesome. Thanks
Thank you
Thank you for the video. I was going to buy one of these, but not now.
You just saved me alot of money.
Arguably, you don’t put out grease fires with a fire extinguisher either. You cover it with a lid and starve it of oxygen. Your wood fire is troubling. But it kept reigniting in a way that indicates you applied an accelerant-likely grease to light it.
Had you shown a “control” test using a canister fire extinguisher working in the same conditions, anyone wouldn’t have a problem agreeing with you.
Appreciate the effort to show us how weak these things are
It doesn't work well and you have to get way too close to the fire. Essentially nonsense. Get a real extinguisher or a fire blanket.
Who knew removing only oxygen from a fire only works if it gets cool enough 🤯
Absolutely worthless: buy a true fire extinguisher instead
In their demosnrstions it worked great.. I almost bought some 6 months ago.. glad I didn’t.
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I think pissing myself from the pain and horror of burning alive will perform better than these things. Great video.
Does this guy know how to use a fire extinguisher,you point it at the base of the fire and hold not wave it around.
Wow, that was quite a disappointing performance from this extinguisher, I was going to put one in my classic car, but I don't think I'll bother
THANK GOD I WATCHED THIS FIRST! I was just about to buy this on Amazon!!! hahahahaha
While this is an interesting test, it's not great. This would have been a slam dunk if other types of extinguishers were used under the same conditions so we could have results that can be compared. I'm left with wondering how well other extinguisher types would have performed under these same test conditions?
What a lopsided experiment. Let's see you set up the same exact fires and try an A-B-C traditional fire extinguisher. You mixed oil and gas and established a hot burning fire. In a Jeep, your most likely fire is going to be from electrical shorts or fuel leaks. All single source fuels and not typically hot burning fires. For emergency situations this extinguisher should work just as well as a traditional canister extinguisher. These Element extinguishers were never designed to put out a campfire. These were designed for putting out flash fires, not fires that have been long burning and have hot coals.
Have you sent this into the company?? I would be really interested in their comments/explanation. This is the first negative thing I have seen or read on these. - your reaction in the video is leading me to think this is also your first bad review on this product too! (Video is great!!)
Yes, I sent this to them and an Engineer called me to learn more and share his viewpoint. The wind really hurt the test. Their gas needs to fully cover the flames and since there is no powder or chemical left behind, any flame on any part of the fuel will instantly reignite it. The wood fire is a good demo of that. You can see it put all flames out nearly instantly, but when the wind hits the red hot portions, it relights. We had a good conversation and he sent me a link to a jeep fire (transmission line severed) that it worked pretty well on. I can't post it and they can't yet because they don't have permission from the creator. Under the right conditions, it would probably work much better. But you can't always pick the conditions...
i just had to use mine to put out a fire under my hood. Didnt do anything to the fire luckily i had a 5lb abc extinguisher in the car
I was wondering about this product and you save my time and money.
I was just watching the Jay Leno vid on this, but he never tried it with a fire. This thing does not work. Great job!
I like how he had to kick the fire to put it out loo
Well, before taking a decision, take a look at this TH-cam video: “WPFR tries out the new Element fire extinguisher for PNWHWDA”, the fire & rescue Captain Gary McVay demostrate the effectiveness of this firex…the results are completely different.
Commenting to boost this video. Seems like these devices could cost someone their house.
Crude noise maker. General Zod from Superman. 😂
Thanks for saving me the money
Thanks for saving me money.
Just saved me money
Has the Jeep Talk Show commented on this? I bought an Element after hearing the interview on the Podcast. I suspect in a typical vehicle use case, a Kidde type extinguisher will perform better. Going to take the Element out of the car and put it in the kitchen.
Yes, that is my problem also. I can only "suspect" how the alternative would have worked instead of this being a good comparison that would have shown us if the alternative was any better.
They should try put the bentonite clay...
I also Was considering purchasing this to replace my ABC and Halon extinguishers. Appears to be Worthless for an oil gas fire as a car would have. Since I don't drink anymore, I think I would do better peeing on the fire.
thats basically a smoke Bengal
Pass.
Damn I bought one lol
Fire department left the group🤪
You missed the step where you’re suppose to unzip your zipper and piss on the fire to put it out. 😊
I mean you didn't deploy the extinguisher to the manufacturers directions. I'd love to see the test done again but performed to the directions on the box.
Do they recommend using it from further back?
They shouldn't be able to sell this as anything other than a novelty item.
It passed the tests on their TH-cam channel.. 🤔
th-cam.com/video/dCaPUYKs5Zc/w-d-xo.html
Here's a test video of this, it fails to put out a grease/fuel fire, and fails to even put out a wood fire
hey bless you for
wow alot of people are really going to get really hurt trusting this thing.
Thanx 4 saving me $
It doesnt put shit out theres a test videos of it
Thanks for saving me some cash brother!
You kicking the wood fire did more to put it out than that lame excuse for a smoke grenade did
Omg this is such a bad example of the use for this extinguisher... its for closed space and not for windy conditions.... did he even read the instructions?
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Wow not effective with the little bit of wind. Maybe for indoor fires…
It's a gimmick it will never work.
@@Apollo55_ You're just wrong.. The mechanism these use is well-established tech that's been successfully used for *decades* in built-in indoor fire suppression systems (where it REALLY counts) Look up potassium-aerosol generator if interested; you can find studies about their effectiveness and companies selling systems. This company just made that technology portable.
That said, while the tech unquestionably works, it won't work for every fire. That's why there are _dozens_ of extinguisher types; not 1 size fits all. The company is to blame for not including these caveats in their marketing material. (Which means people will try to use them where they don't work well.
Some people are so gullible. So one person on the internet didn't know how to use a product and now you aren't going to buy it? I used one in my plane and it worked great plus I didn't suffocate with a powder or Halon extinguisher. You just have to read the instructions and learn how to use it BEFORE you need it.
Yeah, in case of an emergency, I will just stick with my chemical extinguisher and clean up the mess later.
I saw a demonstration and they are ass. Cant put out a grease fire and struggles to take out a wood fire.
Thanks for saving me a chunk of $$$$$. I’ll stick with tried and true.
Just Ed Bolians sponsor spot with these on the Pontiac G8 video. I was expecting more from this tbh.
So yeah these things are proven to do jack shit against like any kind of fire
Had high hopes for this🤦♂️