Sorry for muting the video at the strangest point in time, I got copyright claimed and they didn't buy the fair use argument, so I just muted a section.
This series really is outstanding. Evangelion is very dear to me both emotionally and intellectually, and the clear contextualization of it within the societal and sociological situations of its time that you provide here in an audio visual format really brought back a lot of those emotions.
Seriously this is the best thing I've seen in a while. Being a huge fan o neon genesis evangelion saga and also a lacanian aspirant hearing this discussion is like music to my ears and makes me doki doki so hard pretty great perspectives and link with the historicity of Japan in the 90s. this video is a gem
I have a discord chat where we have a lot of people whom are quite well-versed in some of this stuff. Though it's still a pretty general discord, I think you might find it more comfortable to discuss ideas like Lacan and EVA and whatnot.
This is easily my new favorite video from you. I really can't express how amazing it is to see you constantly progress when you are already the cream of the crop.
This is a great series on what is my personal favorite genre of fiction, particularly in anime. Eva has always been a really special show to me, it's really interesting to reflect on why that is with the sociological and psychological context you've provided with these videos. Can't wait for the next video!
Videos like these deserve so much more attention, I'm really pissed that youtube promotes cancerous channels like Jake Paul, the amount of effort put into this video is outstanding.
As an addendum to the idea of Shinji's strangling of an Asuka being a killing of the self, Freud talks about how melancholia (basically, depression resultant from loss) occurs when the subject's libido has achieved a state of love and connection with its object that binds them together, and upon the loss of the object, the ego tries to keep it alive by incorporating it into itself. When a melancholic person is so intensely self-critical, they're really being critical of the object that they assimilated into their subconscious, and when they kill themselves, its really an attack on the object. This is, effectively, what Shinji is doing in his killing of Asuka.
Interesting perspective. I personally didn't like end of Evangelion because to me it felt like it was for people who couldn't understand what the original ending was about. Thus it was for people who are unable to comprehend an existence where life has no divine meaning or purpose. The series ending was about Shinji (and the author) realising that by making their existence determined by their value to other people (and their purpose in the world where I personally believe that piloting the Eva is a direct parallel to the author writing and drawing the story) they were preventing themselves from being happy. I think this is best exemplified in the scene where Shinji is floating in the white void, there he has true freedom, but true freedom is a terrifying daunting prospect. So he grounds himself. He gives himself a place to start so he can become comfortable with his surroundings. He doesn't want true freedom he just wants the world around him to make sense. But the true message is one of hope and of purpose, that the meaning of life doesn't come from a divine power, nor does it come from the things you create, it comes from every day life, it comes from understanding yourself and making the most of your existence because ultimately your reality is what you perceive it to be, nothing more, nothing less. I don't think Evangelion is truly about the apocalypse at all. it's about the journey to accepting yourself and finding happiness. Ultimately there is no point to evangelion, it doesn't insult you by telling you that it has the answers. It tells you that only you can have the answers that make sense to you and everything else is irrelevant which is why so many people can watch the show and come out with completely different interpretations. Just my 2 cents
Sorry but I have to disagree. As much as I love episode 25 and 26, those were a bad ending to the show. Why? because, even if the main point of the show was the psychology of characters, it not JUST about that. There are also big things in motions: supernatural entities, secrets, political schemes and conflicts. If the show was about Shinji simply going to school and dealing with his problems, and nothing was really going on in the series, I would have accepted that ending. But, as much as I loved it, I wanted to know more: about Seele, Adam and Lilith, Instrumentality Project, Gendo true goal ( which is only explained in the End of Evangelion). To further prove my point, there's not only the fact that episode 25 and 26 were not intented to be the ending, but they were the result of the studio running out of budget, but that there are actual stillframes of The End of Evangelion in it: Misato and Ritsuko corpses!!! That was a dickmove, showing frames of a movie that doesn't even exist yet. The End of Evangelion needed to exist, so that episode 25 and 26 could be validated as something that actually happens, rather than being considered just abstract mindfuck.
cesverc The final episodes being made on a time crunch does not rob them of their meaning. It simply means they had to focus on tying up what was by that point the most crucial part of the show, Shinji's problems with self-identity outside of the imaginary relationships between himself and others. I do believe when the show started its main goal was to tell a cool sci fi story about the end of the world, but at the end of the day I don't think evangelion would be remembered the way it is today if it hadn't prioritized, first and foremost, what had evolved to become the true core of the show. End of Eva seems to be almost a refusal of this, then: fine, you want your cool sci fi end of the world, you'll get it, but you'll also get a text that confines Shinji to his own worldview, in which he can only exist by the way others define him. And other people do not like him.
This is really fantastic stuff you're doing. I personally tend to watch anime in a fairly surface-level, non-analytical way, so I really enjoy seeing this kind of deep examination of it. This disaster series is the first work of yours that I've seen, and I have to say it's more impressive and fascinating than any other anime examination I've seen up until now.
This is throwing me back to the days in middle college psych class. I'm having a hard time keeping up but I do get the gist of it all. It makes me want to go back and watch it all again! Honestly, your insightful videos should be viral.
You are so smart. I feel like there's just pure information flowing into my head when I watch your videos. Sometimes I know it's going over my head, but it only makes it more interesting to rewatch. Congratulations on pushing your videos to places I haven't seen other channels go. You are far more in-depth than many other essayists, and I commend you for that.
until I started watching your videos, I've never thought about the actual nature of relationships pertaining to the story itself. Your mentions of first-order relationships here and in your re;zero video are fascinating to me. In my own life as a student, my success is largely controlled by people I have little to no relationship to. It may be that sense of longing for these first order relationships that draws me so close to series like Eva, index, and Haruhi to name a few.
Alright remember that is a binding legal contract on TH-cam you can't back out I have a friend who's studying law he knows everything about law you can't back out it's a binding legal contract.
This work is phemomenal in every sense. I wish I could know more about all the authors and references you talk in the video so all the information does not come all at once. In any case, I will be closely following this videos when I rewatch these three series. Thanks for providing great content like this, and for providing new lens for all these series.
I just started watching you after hearing you in the "Discussion of Otaku Lingo" video on Digibro's channel, and I gotta let you know that I'm really impressed and enjoying your videos.
TVTropes (as much as I have an issue with that site) has a passable introduction to it. Likewise, Motoko Tanaka's hefty (price-wise) book on the Apocalypse in Japanese Science Fiction has a whole chapter on EVA and Sekaikei.
Walp, I just discovered your channel and so far the Understanding Disaster series has been great. Not sure if I should watch this third video since I haven't checked out NGE yet and wouldn't want to get it spoiled, but your analysis of Death Note and Akira was brilliant! I always associated some post-modernism with Katsuhiro Otomo, but goddamnit, you developed it further than I could have imagined :') By the way, ever thought about doing something on the Ghost in the Shell series? The discussions on dualism and personal identity are incredibly pertinent to contemporary philosophy, and I'd love to see your take on it.
If you're interested, you should definitely check out NGE! It's such a widely known piece of work that there's so many things it ultimately ended up influencing. I've been thinking of GITS, and I might, but I would have to go through its (quite considerable) literature to see what has and hasn't been said so far. There's a lot of fantastic GITS videos on TH-cam alone - have you checked them out?
Amazing work, man. I love the Sekai-kei part a lot, since I grew up watchig those series. I always felt that the genre was promoting that search of self discovery, but couldn't point at it until recently. I really liked that you ended the video on a hopeful note. So far, this Apocalyctic videos are the best.
Haha, thanks dude! I never grew up watching sekaikei for the most part, so I can't really say much about my experiences with them, but it's interesting you did. What shows in particular?
+Pause and Select Mainly, the three you mentioned (Saikano, Iriya and Voices) and some related examples like Eva, Chobits, Shakugan no Shana and Eureka Seven. Does Elemental Gelade counts?
I find it interesting that Evangelion is the "Grandfather" of the Sekaikei genre, and the three quincental works all pop up in the early 2000s. The generation in-between, which would presumable come out in the late 90s, is missing.
you are too good for this hellscape of a platform. I'd love to see your take on the Monogatari Series through a Lacanian lens, or a proper postmodernist analysis of Haruhi. The widespread popularity of both series always amazes me, considering how idiosyncratic and complex they can be -- just like with Eva.
I fucking love Evangelion so much. Thanks for making a video about this wonderful series. Not to mention that it's a great video. Seriously, good job. Cheers.
Thank you for video! I've never really understood or accepted readings of End Of Evangelion's ending as purely pessimistic, but I haven't felt like I understood why those readings feel incomplete to me. I don't understand everything in this video, but I certainly feel a bit closer!
Yeah! Thanks for continued of this amazing topic. I had learn a lot from your videos now I'm more focus on the anime I'm watching lately as those classic anime as well.
This was absolutely fantastic. Evangelion is far and away my favorite series, and its really interesting to get these different perspectives on Eva itself, and how it fits into the broader disaster fiction within anime, as well as grandfathering sekai-kei. I've not really heard of those shows you mentioned, but I think purely on idea alone they seem interesting, so I'll likely end up checking them out. Also... Is that Sora no Woto I see? Cuz if that's gonna be the focus of part 4 I'm so freaking hype, oh my god. Its a criminally underrated series (and in my top 10 favorites for anime on the whole) that has (from what I've seen) a very different approach to apocalypse. If you're doing that I'd love to see how it fits into the medium in ways I'd never have anticipated, and what kinds of things I didn't know I wanted to know that you'll bring up.
The last part of Understanding Disaster is gonna be really weird, I think? It'll be a somewhat unfocused video primarily because it's very much a "this is where we are right now" so it's very open-ended.
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I recently started watching it on Netflix. Pretty good so far. Also, it’s completely obvious what Digital Extremes took reference to when creating the game, Warframe. 👍🏻👍🏻
Joe you know how to pull at my heartstrings with dat Komm Susser Tod.. Another wonderful video! I'll be honest, I sorta knew how impactful Eva was, but I didn't think about it in the context of Osawa's ages. Welp, time to go read more about sekaikei I guess! Also how do I play civ 5 hmu fam
Sekaikei allies the state of the world with the state of the character. I love it because in the safe world of art it allows the awareness that the human brain id the most complex object in the universe, that we are a bunch of atoms studying the atom, and as such, we are a way of the universe to understanding itself. Quoting Sagan. Of course we equate the universe, of course the world is over when my psyche hits its limit, it is art after all, in its gestalt it should extrapolate meaningfulness in ways that cannot be express in real life. The explosions of Akira stare back at you, and those inked pages are just that. But the actions of human characters, existential embodiment of the universe, are the most meaningful things in existance, so they are never "just that". When you die, the world dies.
The zeitgeist during the "age of impossibility" sounds awfully reminiscent of the USA in the past four years. Different causes and manifestations, of course, but that feeling of dread, of losing confidence in institutions, of wanting to retreat from a world that seemed so grimly absurd...it resonates.
I completely forgot about Iriya no Sora. I saw only screenshots of it back in 2006 and 2007. I had a thing for girls with purple hair like Nodoka from Negima or Motoko from GitS. Thanks for reminding me about that series, been a decade since I even heard about it! Also fuck you cause you had to play that song from Evangelion at the end. I should have saw it coming. I should have. But I didn't, was too busy being immersed into the video. Damn it the feels keep hitting me! Can't wait for the next one. Hopefully it comes out before the next Impact!
All Arounder Geek It is like when I mention Natsu-iro no Sunadokei (Hourglass of Summer). It is just one of those series from the early to mid-2000's that is so rarely mentioned that it is surprising when someone talks about it. I might check it out if I have time. I ironically skipped out on it cause it was a short series. Now about 10 years later, I'd watch exactly cause it was shorter than a normal TV anime.
AnimeCommander1 That last part was the same reason on why I watched it, haha. In retrospective, I don't think it is good, but something that made me happy back then. I may watch HoS too.
All Arounder Geek I feel the same about Hourglass of Summer. Made me cry and get emotional when I saw it. If I saw it today, I'd probably be laughing at it all.
Everybody forgets about at least one of the sekaikei 'triad'. I've talked to a few people about it, and there's always one show people forget about, whether it's HnK, Saikano, or Iriya. It's hilarious. Also lol the song. Gotta take advantage of what I can get
Man, listening to this video at the gym is like accidentally eating a whole wheat salmon and tomato sandwich with garlic aioli when all I wanted were some damn Sour Patch Kids. It's delicious, and I feel better after eating it, but wow is that first bite rough.
+Pause and Select Since Penguindrum has obvious ties to the 95 Sarin incident, will you be focusing more on how it's a response of sorts to Eva, or will you talk about Penguindrum as a sort of response to more classical works like Dostoyevsky's The Brothers Karamazov and Mr. Frog Saves Tokyo?
Matthew B. At the moment it's very unclear on how I want to proceed with this. Obviously I'm going to be touching on Aum separately, so that will influence how I approach Penguindrum by itself. Unfortunately, the answer right now is, "I don't know." Sorry man.
You're being far too modest 9:20 Part of the Lacanian process is that we *need* the symbolic order in order to be interpellated, the disintegration of the S. order serves only to reaffirm it since trauma, the literal invasion of the real is inescapable. In many ways you can use this to parallel the anti-democratic, revanchist and masculinised aspects of the geopolitics of Eva - the UN, Seele and NERV are all fascistic organisations that don't even pretend to use democracy. The trauma of world collapse and spiritual collapse has reignited the old symbolic order in its most extreme form where the literal building blocks of a community (the dwellings themselves) serve as defenses and pawns in their schemes and battles. The social fabric disintegrates with every advancement of the real, and this can be mapped directly onto the social connections that are formed and disintegrated in proportion to the progression of the series. The first and only familial unit that you see, a psychosocial generative unit is preapocalyptic. Its insistence, presented through Gendo's clinging onto Rei and his hyper-Oedipalised relationship towards Shinji still maintains the family unit in its most extreme Lacanian dimension. Gendo is not only the head of NERV, not only does he wield sex to his own advantage, not only has he destroyed and paraded the corpse of the mother figure, he is utterly consumed by this role. Much in the same way that all military personnel are never defined because the symbolic coordinates of their definition (where an admiral is not only an authority figure but also a social figure independent of hierarchy) are overdetermined. Apologies for the rant, good video, love the series.
People who don't understand the popularity of Neon Genesis Evangelion should perhaps watch this video and then watch the entire series. There is a BIG choice to make when reaching the end. You can watch episodes 25 and 26. If you want the director's final version, skip those two. After episode 24, watch End of Evangelion. I think EoE is the better ending of the two. Even today, it still a very deep, mind-blowing story. It reached so deep that I forgot about the mechas (called Evangelions). PS: the director (Hideako Anno) is not trying to push any political or religious viewpoints. He told a reporter that he was always fascinated by Christian symbols and included them in the storyline.
toward the end there i could not understand what you were getting at. usually i can see fault with an unsound line of reasoning, but i dont usually get straight up lost as to what the hell is being talked about. thanks for wrapping it back up for me at the very end though.
*where were you all my life.* No, really. I've been watching Evangelion ''reviews'' ever since I finished this show a few months ago, and none of them are as nicely redacted nor edited as yours. That was an mildly adequate video. Damn, now I have to watch the animes that you review just to be able to enjoy your own reviews.
It was really interesting to see clished sekai-kei in the MV of Shelter in 2016. The context of pop culture criticism in the 00s is now degraded, but the way of sekai-kei storytelling might go on abandoning the name, sekai-kei.
It's interesting you mention Shelter because I had very similar vibes watching the Shelter music video. It's also interesting you mention abandoning the name because I've been really wanting to read Maejima's 2004 book more thoroughly where he tries to tackle that topic. BTW ehoba I'm looking for translators for articles in the future, I'll pay - are you interested / know anyone who is?
"art is dead" -some armchair kid Still, interesting that you bring up Sartre at that point. Personally, the comparison is spot on, but the quote placement could be construed to say that the Sekai-Kei story isn't the new type of storytelling that you say it is. (Of course, in a Japanese cultural context this could very well be different and new.) Or, the purpose of the quote could be vague because it primes the viewer for more related to Sartre (whether the viewer is familiar with existentialism or not). As it is, the viewer *could* make the connection and carry on. But unless I've missed something (I haven't watched the Akira video yet), you haven't went into Sartre a lot in your video series. It's just one transition, but i thought to point it out since the quote visibly stood out. What were your thoughts on it? What's your endgame?
The thing is the Kansai Earthqcuake and Sarin Gas Attacks took place during the production of Evangelion. How could they have so much of an effect then.
I don't think I ever said it affected production. I'm saying it affected the reading of Evangelion. Imagine if you were hit by 9/11, Katrina, and the 2008 recession all in the span of 1-2 years, and then just a couple months later a show / movie came out that "gets you." That's what I meant, if it clarifies your concern.
Well, I understood it the other way around. Especially since when you were talking about Akira it was a work that was influenced by Japan's past in its apocalyptic setting and themes. Not too mention I wouldn't be suprised if Evangelion was at least partially reactionary in some form to the financial bubble and Aum in general. I know Anno has openly criticised the sect and in particular for their escapist tendencies.
Well Akira is a distinctly different type of apocalyptic storytelling than what EVA eventually engendered, which is why I think these sorts of 'modes' of reading have to be considered. And obviously the video could've been about Aum and EVA, but I just don't think there's enough material out there to build a sufficiently solid case.
hey, awesome video. I started on learning about philosophy and theology ideas just recently, but actually i'm actually japanese literature student in Indonesia. Can you suggest japanese intellectuals or critics that have interesting ideas about Japanese culture, education, politic, economy and philosophy? it would also be nice if they can explain Japan in relation to the international world, although i'm also interested in both local or international contexts. Much thanks
To the person who made this video: buy yourself something sweet, imagine I bought it for you, eat it with pleasure and enjoy the moment while you will be doing that! #Respect!
do you think that the original evangelion series presents a world where shinji accepts the instrumentation, and then the movie presents a world where he rejects it?
What does "symbolic order"/"symbolic middleground" at like 17:25 mean? If there were text versions available I could just ctrl+f to it. Also my flippant suggestion, can you do a video on Rozen Maiden? :3
It comes up much earlier in the same video, but the Symbolic order is just a reference to Lacan's Symbolic (you might also know it as Law of the Father, roughly speaking). Now, if you're familiar with Lacanian psychoanalysis, to say 'the Symbolic is lost' is a really bold and difficult claim to make, so I (doing what Azuma Hiroki and Motoko Tanaka had to do) was appropriate it to a 'middle ground'. The middle ground in this context is mainly the mediated space, so the governments, communal systems, etc. Big markers of macro society, in essence. I hope that clarifies it. And perhaps? I am interested and thinking about a Rozen Maiden video, it's been a while since I've seen it, but it's definitely something that's been in the back of my mind for a long time.
On 24:39, can someone transcribe what whas said? Something like: The story ov evangelion, of cinanol, of areano sora, of hoshi no koi, are stories of kobe, the buble burst, of own and how...
What the hell is a fucking Laconian? Kind of distracting to now have to go find out what that is now and how its somehow applied to what you're talking about. By the way...love the typography.
I'm having difficulty finding one of the sources: "A, documentary". Whenever I attempt to look it up, the search results usually come up with "a documentary is... [insert definition of a documentary]". :D At any rate, you've been instrumental in inspiring me to attempt YouTubing again at some point. I'm contemplating doing some analysis of the works of Yoshihiro Togashi, namely in terms of how he conveys themes of socio-economic and systemic oppression, among other things.
hey do you ever consider leaving descriptions or on screen annotations (early 2000 sub style) for the concepts your bring up during your video. I understand having to go through explaining these concepts verbal explain these concepts could wane and take away from the point you'd be trying to make in a video.
Your explanation of Shinji's choking Asuka reminds me of sudoStef's explanation. And I love the way both of you explain it because I think most people don't see how important that last scene is. This is his vid: th-cam.com/video/Z31Un9dIWBE/w-d-xo.html
When something becomes condensed into an actor. When I say "actorized unto Shinji," Toji's problems with NERV and society are expansive and large, but he takes it out on Shinji because Shinji represents that problem. Therefore Shinji becomes actorized, he is the vessel of all of Toji's issues.
It was a casual soft criticism of your analysis at 12:45. You suggest that the sparsely populated city was a function of a narrative on the malaise of society, the lack of economic and social hustle and bustle when compared to Akira. - I was making an off-hand remark using your phrasing that it was actually due to the greatly reduced budget when compared to Akira. I like your channel and insights as a whole, thought I'd have a bit of fun where I disagree with just a small part of the analysis.
People say you need a physiology book in order to understand evangelion and the truth is even more complex then that. You have to understand yourself and your physiology in order to understand evangelion.
Sorry for muting the video at the strangest point in time, I got copyright claimed and they didn't buy the fair use argument, so I just muted a section.
Congratulations on restoring this legendary series
This series really is outstanding. Evangelion is very dear to me both emotionally and intellectually, and the clear contextualization of it within the societal and sociological situations of its time that you provide here in an audio visual format really brought back a lot of those emotions.
Oh nice! Yeah, it's a really interesting case study for a lot of things, and it comes up a lot in disaster fiction for good (several) reason(s).
My favorite anime of all time. glad I found this channel ^_^
Lachlan Still, I appreciate the succinct nature of your commentary on this video. I couldn't have said it better myself.
11:55 "Close rapport" understatement of the century. Shinji was willing and about to totally slobber all over Kaworu''s corncob
Heh
Well done! Amazing video! Your fan from Taiwan :)
Seriously this is the best thing I've seen in a while. Being a huge fan o neon genesis evangelion saga and also a lacanian aspirant hearing this discussion is like music to my ears and makes me doki doki so hard pretty great perspectives and link with the historicity of Japan in the 90s. this video is a gem
wish there was somebody to talk about this to
I have a discord chat where we have a lot of people whom are quite well-versed in some of this stuff. Though it's still a pretty general discord, I think you might find it more comfortable to discuss ideas like Lacan and EVA and whatnot.
I would love to participate! :)
Nice! Do you have the discord link? Here's the discord link: www.discord.gg/013mQgAjEwbKtbk19
This is easily my new favorite video from you. I really can't express how amazing it is to see you constantly progress when you are already the cream of the crop.
Thanks Michael when we fighting in ultimax
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The ultimate showdown will commence soon. I must prepare my body first!
This is a great series on what is my personal favorite genre of fiction, particularly in anime. Eva has always been a really special show to me, it's really interesting to reflect on why that is with the sociological and psychological context you've provided with these videos. Can't wait for the next video!
Thanks! It's gonna take a little while, hope you're okay with the wait!
2:42 it's been 4 years and i'm still thinking how you missed the oppurtunity to say it all comes tumbling down
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Videos like these deserve so much more attention, I'm really pissed that youtube promotes cancerous channels like Jake Paul, the amount of effort put into this video is outstanding.
Thank you for the kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
Three words: Lowest. Common. Denominator.
Jake Paul fits better into the symbolic order
As an addendum to the idea of Shinji's strangling of an Asuka being a killing of the self, Freud talks about how melancholia (basically, depression resultant from loss) occurs when the subject's libido has achieved a state of love and connection with its object that binds them together, and upon the loss of the object, the ego tries to keep it alive by incorporating it into itself. When a melancholic person is so intensely self-critical, they're really being critical of the object that they assimilated into their subconscious, and when they kill themselves, its really an attack on the object. This is, effectively, what Shinji is doing in his killing of Asuka.
Interesting perspective. I personally didn't like end of Evangelion because to me it felt like it was for people who couldn't understand what the original ending was about. Thus it was for people who are unable to comprehend an existence where life has no divine meaning or purpose. The series ending was about Shinji (and the author) realising that by making their existence determined by their value to other people (and their purpose in the world where I personally believe that piloting the Eva is a direct parallel to the author writing and drawing the story) they were preventing themselves from being happy. I think this is best exemplified in the scene where Shinji is floating in the white void, there he has true freedom, but true freedom is a terrifying daunting prospect. So he grounds himself. He gives himself a place to start so he can become comfortable with his surroundings. He doesn't want true freedom he just wants the world around him to make sense. But the true message is one of hope and of purpose, that the meaning of life doesn't come from a divine power, nor does it come from the things you create, it comes from every day life, it comes from understanding yourself and making the most of your existence because ultimately your reality is what you perceive it to be, nothing more, nothing less. I don't think Evangelion is truly about the apocalypse at all. it's about the journey to accepting yourself and finding happiness. Ultimately there is no point to evangelion, it doesn't insult you by telling you that it has the answers. It tells you that only you can have the answers that make sense to you and everything else is irrelevant which is why so many people can watch the show and come out with completely different interpretations.
Just my 2 cents
Glad someone agrees xD
Sorry but I have to disagree. As much as I love episode 25 and 26, those were a bad ending to the show. Why? because, even if the main point of the show was the psychology of characters, it not JUST about that. There are also big things in motions: supernatural entities, secrets, political schemes and conflicts. If the show was about Shinji simply going to school and dealing with his problems, and nothing was really going on in the series, I would have accepted that ending. But, as much as I loved it, I wanted to know more: about Seele, Adam and Lilith, Instrumentality Project, Gendo true goal ( which is only explained in the End of Evangelion). To further prove my point, there's not only the fact that episode 25 and 26 were not intented to be the ending, but they were the result of the studio running out of budget, but that there are actual stillframes of The End of Evangelion in it: Misato and Ritsuko corpses!!! That was a dickmove, showing frames of a movie that doesn't even exist yet. The End of Evangelion needed to exist, so that episode 25 and 26 could be validated as something that actually happens, rather than being considered just abstract mindfuck.
cesverc The final episodes being made on a time crunch does not rob them of their meaning. It simply means they had to focus on tying up what was by that point the most crucial part of the show, Shinji's problems with self-identity outside of the imaginary relationships between himself and others. I do believe when the show started its main goal was to tell a cool sci fi story about the end of the world, but at the end of the day I don't think evangelion would be remembered the way it is today if it hadn't prioritized, first and foremost, what had evolved to become the true core of the show.
End of Eva seems to be almost a refusal of this, then: fine, you want your cool sci fi end of the world, you'll get it, but you'll also get a text that confines Shinji to his own worldview, in which he can only exist by the way others define him. And other people do not like him.
The End of Evangelion however unnecessary people may feel it was, still has the GREATEST ending of a film in any medium of all time.
Idk... there are other great endings to movies aswell. Think about Trainspotting or Fight Club.
This is really fantastic stuff you're doing. I personally tend to watch anime in a fairly surface-level, non-analytical way, so I really enjoy seeing this kind of deep examination of it. This disaster series is the first work of yours that I've seen, and I have to say it's more impressive and fascinating than any other anime examination I've seen up until now.
I really like this video because I like Evangelion and this is an awesome Evangelion analysis
Thanks Ken!
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No problem
This is throwing me back to the days in middle college psych class. I'm having a hard time keeping up but I do get the gist of it all. It makes me want to go back and watch it all again! Honestly, your insightful videos should be viral.
You are so smart. I feel like there's just pure information flowing into my head when I watch your videos. Sometimes I know it's going over my head, but it only makes it more interesting to rewatch. Congratulations on pushing your videos to places I haven't seen other channels go. You are far more in-depth than many other essayists, and I commend you for that.
Thanks for the kind words Alena!
until I started watching your videos, I've never thought about the actual nature of relationships pertaining to the story itself. Your mentions of first-order relationships here and in your re;zero video are fascinating to me.
In my own life as a student, my success is largely controlled by people I have little to no relationship to. It may be that sense of longing for these first order relationships that draws me so close to series like Eva, index, and Haruhi to name a few.
This is one of the best evangelion video essays ever
I think this might be your best video yet, no joke. I was blown away.
Thanks Sami stop being so productive with work and play Civ with us in the discord man
Maybe on the weekend lol.
Alright remember that is a binding legal contract on TH-cam you can't back out I have a friend who's studying law he knows everything about law you can't back out it's a binding legal contract.
I'm kinda busy on Saturday (beach with friends and a few hours for my part-time job, but Sunday seems pretty free for me.
crimsonshadow42 sounds good
This work is phemomenal in every sense. I wish I could know more about all the authors and references you talk in the video so all the information does not come all at once. In any case, I will be closely following this videos when I rewatch these three series. Thanks for providing great content like this, and for providing new lens for all these series.
Nice! I'm glad you liked the videos so much Javier!
I just started watching you after hearing you in the "Discussion of Otaku Lingo" video on Digibro's channel, and I gotta let you know that I'm really impressed and enjoying your videos.
Thanks flagfighter!
Ayyy, thanks fam.
Same too! I was intrigued when you were talking about 'Sekai kei' and mentioned your video about Evangelion. Your channel is golden
I've been waiting for this! Very good video and very insightful. I haven't heard of that 'seikai-kei' genre or shows, I will have to give them a look.
TVTropes (as much as I have an issue with that site) has a passable introduction to it. Likewise, Motoko Tanaka's hefty (price-wise) book on the Apocalypse in Japanese Science Fiction has a whole chapter on EVA and Sekaikei.
Walp, I just discovered your channel and so far the Understanding Disaster series has been great. Not sure if I should watch this third video since I haven't checked out NGE yet and wouldn't want to get it spoiled, but your analysis of Death Note and Akira was brilliant! I always associated some post-modernism with Katsuhiro Otomo, but goddamnit, you developed it further than I could have imagined :')
By the way, ever thought about doing something on the Ghost in the Shell series? The discussions on dualism and personal identity are incredibly pertinent to contemporary philosophy, and I'd love to see your take on it.
If you're interested, you should definitely check out NGE! It's such a widely known piece of work that there's so many things it ultimately ended up influencing.
I've been thinking of GITS, and I might, but I would have to go through its (quite considerable) literature to see what has and hasn't been said so far. There's a lot of fantastic GITS videos on TH-cam alone - have you checked them out?
Joe my boy, you broke the rules of making anime video's...
Rule 1: Don't talk about Evangelion
Rule 2: If confused refer to rule 1.
Well, I kinda had to talk about it cause of the topic. Hopefully this doesn't blow up in my face.
2dep4u
I'm curious though, why would that be a rule? 'Cause there are as many haters as fanboys, and hell will be unleashed in the comment section?
@@cesverc Part of it's the Fight Club reference, obviously.
Extremely late to comment, but really glad you used Tsutsui's economic lecture! Backs up your video really well
Thanks for video with real world context for the anime, quality video editing, and logical narration
These videos are all awesome-- ridiculously good analyses.
Amazing work, man. I love the Sekai-kei part a lot, since I grew up watchig those series. I always felt that the genre was promoting that search of self discovery, but couldn't point at it until recently. I really liked that you ended the video on a hopeful note. So far, this Apocalyctic videos are the best.
Haha, thanks dude! I never grew up watching sekaikei for the most part, so I can't really say much about my experiences with them, but it's interesting you did. What shows in particular?
+Pause and Select Mainly, the three you mentioned (Saikano, Iriya and Voices) and some related examples like Eva, Chobits, Shakugan no Shana and Eureka Seven. Does Elemental Gelade counts?
All Arounder Geek I don't remember much of Elemental Gelade, so I would have no idea, haha.
+Pause and Select No one remembers that show, I barely remember. In the end, the love of two different species saves the universe
All Arounder Geek Ah, gotcha.
You never stop to amaze me Joe.
We'll see about that.
I find it interesting that Evangelion is the "Grandfather" of the Sekaikei genre, and the three quincental works all pop up in the early 2000s. The generation in-between, which would presumable come out in the late 90s, is missing.
you are too good for this hellscape of a platform. I'd love to see your take on the Monogatari Series through a Lacanian lens, or a proper postmodernist analysis of Haruhi. The widespread popularity of both series always amazes me, considering how idiosyncratic and complex they can be -- just like with Eva.
I fucking love Evangelion so much.
Thanks for making a video about this wonderful series. Not to mention that it's a great video.
Seriously, good job. Cheers.
Thank you for video! I've never really understood or accepted readings of End Of Evangelion's ending as purely pessimistic, but I haven't felt like I understood why those readings feel incomplete to me. I don't understand everything in this video, but I certainly feel a bit closer!
Thanks Ecksphyre!
Yeah! Thanks for continued of this amazing topic. I had learn a lot from your videos now I'm more focus on the anime I'm watching lately as those classic anime as well.
Oh nice! Good to know man!
Thanks! I can't wait for part 4
Freddy Cabral Nice!
This was absolutely fantastic. Evangelion is far and away my favorite series, and its really interesting to get these different perspectives on Eva itself, and how it fits into the broader disaster fiction within anime, as well as grandfathering sekai-kei. I've not really heard of those shows you mentioned, but I think purely on idea alone they seem interesting, so I'll likely end up checking them out.
Also... Is that Sora no Woto I see? Cuz if that's gonna be the focus of part 4 I'm so freaking hype, oh my god. Its a criminally underrated series (and in my top 10 favorites for anime on the whole) that has (from what I've seen) a very different approach to apocalypse. If you're doing that I'd love to see how it fits into the medium in ways I'd never have anticipated, and what kinds of things I didn't know I wanted to know that you'll bring up.
The last part of Understanding Disaster is gonna be really weird, I think? It'll be a somewhat unfocused video primarily because it's very much a "this is where we are right now" so it's very open-ended.
Pause and Select That is totally fair, but hey, any attention to Sora no Woto is perfectly acceptable to me. And by being relatively unfocused it could allow for more things I am relatively unacquainted with to be brought up. I read all of Akira before watching Part 2 and now its a favorite of mine, and I have plans to watch some of the Sekai-kei shows mentioned in this part.
Nice! That manga is amazing!
I recently started watching it on Netflix. Pretty good so far. Also, it’s completely obvious what Digital Extremes took reference to when creating the game, Warframe. 👍🏻👍🏻
Excellent analysis 🙏🏿🌎
6:51 that also remind me of the Jungian psychology in Persona games, the Personas, shadows, Collective Unconsciousness, archetypes, etc.
well just Shadows specifically
Joe you know how to pull at my heartstrings with dat Komm Susser Tod..
Another wonderful video! I'll be honest, I sorta knew how impactful Eva was, but I didn't think about it in the context of Osawa's ages. Welp, time to go read more about sekaikei I guess!
Also how do I play civ 5 hmu fam
It's in the #huntington chat. We set up games on the fly most of the time, but damn yo, get that Civ thing ready.
I was looking for a good video essay channel based on anime, particularly one on Eva, yours is great! thanks and subbed!
Thanks Said, I appreciate the kind words man!
Really good videos man :), here waiting for the next one.
Haha, thanks man
Sekaikei allies the state of the world with the state of the character. I love it because in the safe world of art it allows the awareness that the human brain id the most complex object in the universe, that we are a bunch of atoms studying the atom, and as such, we are a way of the universe to understanding itself. Quoting Sagan. Of course we equate the universe, of course the world is over when my psyche hits its limit, it is art after all, in its gestalt it should extrapolate meaningfulness in ways that cannot be express in real life. The explosions of Akira stare back at you, and those inked pages are just that. But the actions of human characters, existential embodiment of the universe, are the most meaningful things in existance, so they are never "just that". When you die, the world dies.
finally someone else who realizes that NGE is Lacanian rather than Freudian. thank you this is a very good video
Loving this channel, keep it up!
Thanks Adam!
God I love these videos!
Great work on this, I'm not sure I get everything but that's interesting nonetheless, great work!!!
Thanks devanis!
The zeitgeist during the "age of impossibility" sounds awfully reminiscent of the USA in the past four years. Different causes and manifestations, of course, but that feeling of dread, of losing confidence in institutions, of wanting to retreat from a world that seemed so grimly absurd...it resonates.
know that I think about it this is true
That was fascinating! Thank you so much.
I completely forgot about Iriya no Sora. I saw only screenshots of it back in 2006 and 2007. I had a thing for girls with purple hair like Nodoka from Negima or Motoko from GitS. Thanks for reminding me about that series, been a decade since I even heard about it!
Also fuck you cause you had to play that song from Evangelion at the end. I should have saw it coming. I should have. But I didn't, was too busy being immersed into the video. Damn it the feels keep hitting me!
Can't wait for the next one. Hopefully it comes out before the next Impact!
Iriya is so rarely mentioned that it also caught me off guard. That ending was amazing.
All Arounder Geek It is like when I mention Natsu-iro no Sunadokei (Hourglass of Summer). It is just one of those series from the early to mid-2000's that is so rarely mentioned that it is surprising when someone talks about it.
I might check it out if I have time. I ironically skipped out on it cause it was a short series. Now about 10 years later, I'd watch exactly cause it was shorter than a normal TV anime.
AnimeCommander1 That last part was the same reason on why I watched it, haha. In retrospective, I don't think it is good, but something that made me happy back then. I may watch HoS too.
All Arounder Geek I feel the same about Hourglass of Summer. Made me cry and get emotional when I saw it. If I saw it today, I'd probably be laughing at it all.
Everybody forgets about at least one of the sekaikei 'triad'. I've talked to a few people about it, and there's always one show people forget about, whether it's HnK, Saikano, or Iriya. It's hilarious.
Also lol the song. Gotta take advantage of what I can get
Man, listening to this video at the gym is like accidentally eating a whole wheat salmon and tomato sandwich with garlic aioli when all I wanted were some damn Sour Patch Kids. It's delicious, and I feel better after eating it, but wow is that first bite rough.
Haha, that's a strange analogy but thanks for watching!
ITS BACK BABYYYYYY
I'm seeing that Penguindrum coming, oh yes.
plz
Oh it's coming. Not sure when I'll finish it, but it's coming.
+Pause and Select Since Penguindrum has obvious ties to the 95 Sarin incident, will you be focusing more on how it's a response of sorts to Eva, or will you talk about Penguindrum as a sort of response to more classical works like Dostoyevsky's The Brothers Karamazov and Mr. Frog Saves Tokyo?
Matthew B. At the moment it's very unclear on how I want to proceed with this. Obviously I'm going to be touching on Aum separately, so that will influence how I approach Penguindrum by itself. Unfortunately, the answer right now is, "I don't know." Sorry man.
but really, how do you like them apples?
4:34 captions: Foucault no say no Jedi
Two years already...
Still waiting for the next part, the Penguindrum video.
You're being far too modest 9:20
Part of the Lacanian process is that we *need* the symbolic order in order to be interpellated, the disintegration of the S. order serves only to reaffirm it since trauma, the literal invasion of the real is inescapable. In many ways you can use this to parallel the anti-democratic, revanchist and masculinised aspects of the geopolitics of Eva - the UN, Seele and NERV are all fascistic organisations that don't even pretend to use democracy. The trauma of world collapse and spiritual collapse has reignited the old symbolic order in its most extreme form where the literal building blocks of a community (the dwellings themselves) serve as defenses and pawns in their schemes and battles. The social fabric disintegrates with every advancement of the real, and this can be mapped directly onto the social connections that are formed and disintegrated in proportion to the progression of the series. The first and only familial unit that you see, a psychosocial generative unit is preapocalyptic. Its insistence, presented through Gendo's clinging onto Rei and his hyper-Oedipalised relationship towards Shinji still maintains the family unit in its most extreme Lacanian dimension. Gendo is not only the head of NERV, not only does he wield sex to his own advantage, not only has he destroyed and paraded the corpse of the mother figure, he is utterly consumed by this role. Much in the same way that all military personnel are never defined because the symbolic coordinates of their definition (where an admiral is not only an authority figure but also a social figure independent of hierarchy) are overdetermined.
Apologies for the rant, good video, love the series.
Gendo is basically father enjoyment
People who don't understand the popularity of Neon Genesis Evangelion should perhaps watch this video and then watch the entire series. There is a BIG choice to make when reaching the end. You can watch episodes 25 and 26. If you want the director's final version, skip those two. After episode 24, watch End of Evangelion. I think EoE is the better ending of the two. Even today, it still a very deep, mind-blowing story. It reached so deep that I forgot about the mechas (called Evangelions). PS: the director (Hideako Anno) is not trying to push any political or religious viewpoints. He told a reporter that he was always fascinated by Christian symbols and included them in the storyline.
tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down. Cant pick between Metropolis, Akira or End of Eva for my fav apocalypse
God i adore your analytical view of anime.
Thanks Shep!
You have grown far above my head
Nah not really
toward the end there i could not understand what you were getting at.
usually i can see fault with an unsound line of reasoning, but i dont usually get straight up lost as to what the hell is being talked about.
thanks for wrapping it back up for me at the very end though.
No problem.
This video big brain
*where were you all my life.*
No, really. I've been watching Evangelion ''reviews'' ever since I finished this show a few months ago, and none of them are as nicely redacted nor edited as yours. That was an mildly adequate video.
Damn, now I have to watch the animes that you review just to be able to enjoy your own reviews.
Ahaha, thank you! I'm glad you liked it Elite Games!
It was really interesting to see clished sekai-kei in the MV of Shelter in 2016.
The context of pop culture criticism in the 00s is now degraded, but the way of sekai-kei storytelling might go on abandoning the name, sekai-kei.
It's interesting you mention Shelter because I had very similar vibes watching the Shelter music video. It's also interesting you mention abandoning the name because I've been really wanting to read Maejima's 2004 book more thoroughly where he tries to tackle that topic.
BTW ehoba I'm looking for translators for articles in the future, I'll pay - are you interested / know anyone who is?
15:20
Let's just sit back and admire the quirky visual transition from Sekai-Kei, to Sartre, and then back to Sekai-Kei.
That's my artistic vision
"art is dead"
-some armchair kid
Still, interesting that you bring up Sartre at that point.
Personally, the comparison is spot on, but the quote placement could be construed to say that the Sekai-Kei story isn't the new type of storytelling that you say it is. (Of course, in a Japanese cultural context this could very well be different and new.)
Or, the purpose of the quote could be vague because it primes the viewer for more related to Sartre (whether the viewer is familiar with existentialism or not). As it is, the viewer *could* make the connection and carry on. But unless I've missed something (I haven't watched the Akira video yet), you haven't went into Sartre a lot in your video series.
It's just one transition, but i thought to point it out since the quote visibly stood out.
What were your thoughts on it? What's your endgame?
I leave it up the viewers to speculate as to why I chose that quote.
Pause and Select
Sartre starts with an S.
So does SAO.
Match point, and checkmate.
SpiceTrade Magnate I don't have a sufficient counterargument to that so I guess you win this round.
I feel smarter now
Hahah!
this vid broke my mind.
Haha.
Evangelion is complicated mecha anime show.
Also, bonus points for the pfp of Ito's long dream
Heh, thanks.
Godly analyzes
Fuck this are some good videos
The thing is the Kansai Earthqcuake and Sarin Gas Attacks took place during the production of Evangelion. How could they have so much of an effect then.
I don't think I ever said it affected production. I'm saying it affected the reading of Evangelion. Imagine if you were hit by 9/11, Katrina, and the 2008 recession all in the span of 1-2 years, and then just a couple months later a show / movie came out that "gets you." That's what I meant, if it clarifies your concern.
Well, I understood it the other way around. Especially since when you were talking about Akira it was a work that was influenced by Japan's past in its apocalyptic setting and themes. Not too mention I wouldn't be suprised if Evangelion was at least partially reactionary in some form to the financial bubble and Aum in general. I know Anno has openly criticised the sect and in particular for their escapist tendencies.
Well Akira is a distinctly different type of apocalyptic storytelling than what EVA eventually engendered, which is why I think these sorts of 'modes' of reading have to be considered. And obviously the video could've been about Aum and EVA, but I just don't think there's enough material out there to build a sufficiently solid case.
I don't feel like I'm smart enough for this video xD
You are, don't sell yourself short. If there's anything you need clarification with, just let me know.
don't get me wrong I kinda get most of what you're saying it's just that I have problems pilling all that knowledge andake a conclusion :D
Fair enough!
This was an extremely helpful comment
Subscribed cuz of your profile picture
Yes yes you can spin a lovely sting of high brown words but... in the end of Evangelion did Shinji save humanity or let them all die?
hey, awesome video. I started on learning about philosophy and theology ideas just recently, but actually i'm actually japanese literature student in Indonesia. Can you suggest japanese intellectuals or critics that have interesting ideas about Japanese culture, education, politic, economy and philosophy? it would also be nice if they can explain Japan in relation to the international world, although i'm also interested in both local or international contexts. Much thanks
To the person who made this video: buy yourself something sweet, imagine I bought it for you, eat it with pleasure and enjoy the moment while you will be doing that!
#Respect!
do you think that the original evangelion series presents a world where shinji accepts the instrumentation, and then the movie presents a world where he rejects it?
Possibly. The final film can change its meaning.
okay.
...
but how does Devilman play into all of this?
Thanks daddy
no problem Sonik my son
Bring select back.
I'll think about it.
Who can make a good Spanish translation of this?
Let's play a game:
Watch all of Pause and select's videos, and drink every time you hear "that's really interesting"
Can you make it to the end?
Yes
Why do I cried at the end?
What does "symbolic order"/"symbolic middleground" at like 17:25 mean? If there were text versions available I could just ctrl+f to it. Also my flippant suggestion, can you do a video on Rozen Maiden? :3
It comes up much earlier in the same video, but the Symbolic order is just a reference to Lacan's Symbolic (you might also know it as Law of the Father, roughly speaking). Now, if you're familiar with Lacanian psychoanalysis, to say 'the Symbolic is lost' is a really bold and difficult claim to make, so I (doing what Azuma Hiroki and Motoko Tanaka had to do) was appropriate it to a 'middle ground'. The middle ground in this context is mainly the mediated space, so the governments, communal systems, etc. Big markers of macro society, in essence. I hope that clarifies it.
And perhaps? I am interested and thinking about a Rozen Maiden video, it's been a while since I've seen it, but it's definitely something that's been in the back of my mind for a long time.
On 24:39, can someone transcribe what whas said? Something like: The story ov evangelion, of cinanol, of areano sora, of hoshi no koi, are stories of kobe, the buble burst, of own and how...
What the hell is a fucking Laconian? Kind of distracting to now have to go find out what that is now and how its somehow applied to what you're talking about. By the way...love the typography.
yeah, awesome vido nerdwriter
"Yeah," - Are you speaking in agreement to yourself?
i am the nerdwriter
Gil Oh snap that's cool Evan why didn't you retweet my Metropolis video you liked it but didn't retweet what's up with that fam
; (
Apocalypse now
I'm having difficulty finding one of the sources: "A, documentary". Whenever I attempt to look it up, the search results usually come up with "a documentary is... [insert definition of a documentary]". :D At any rate, you've been instrumental in inspiring me to attempt YouTubing again at some point. I'm contemplating doing some analysis of the works of Yoshihiro Togashi, namely in terms of how he conveys themes of socio-economic and systemic oppression, among other things.
bruh, like, get on that. Like get on that right now (and let me know when it's done )
Ah, sorry about that! It's literally titled "A", it's a documentary by Tatsuya Mori about Aum Shinrikyo.
+Pause and Select I suspected that was its title, but that info will probably be helpful. Thank you!
JoycianExskirtsions Cheers!
JoycianExskirtsions
Thanks!
hey do you ever consider leaving descriptions or on screen annotations (early 2000 sub style) for the concepts your bring up during your video.
I understand having to go through explaining these concepts verbal explain these concepts could wane and take away from the point you'd be trying to make in a video.
Maybe.
Question: Does Summer Wars count as Sekaikei?
I wouldn't say so. The Girl who leapt through time might actually be closer to Sekai kei in some respects
I don't agree with some of this video interpretation of eva. Nonetheless it is interesting so I subbed. Good job.
Thanks!
tfw too smart for digibro.
lol
Your explanation of Shinji's choking Asuka reminds me of sudoStef's explanation. And I love the way both of you explain it because I think most people don't see how important that last scene is.
This is his vid: th-cam.com/video/Z31Un9dIWBE/w-d-xo.html
Seal seal seal seal seal seal seal seal
yeah yeah lol
-joe
given the definition of sekaike fiction does that mean kurokami is a sekaike story?
I haven't seen it but it might be the case.
The fact that there exist dislikes on p&s's videos i will never understand.
Haha like or dislike helps out the video algorithm, so ultimately fine either way. As long as people as engaging with it!
Accents can make us folks cringe... at times.
But you do make videos like a Sir.
Oh, okay. Thanks 1995yuda!
Love you man, keep doing your thing!
sorry if this sounds kinda dumb, but what are you saying at 10:49? Actorized? What's that mean?
When something becomes condensed into an actor. When I say "actorized unto Shinji," Toji's problems with NERV and society are expansive and large, but he takes it out on Shinji because Shinji represents that problem. Therefore Shinji becomes actorized, he is the vessel of all of Toji's issues.
Oh, thanks!
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehh...
i don't feel happy now
12:45 The malaise of society is the malaise of the budget itself.
What?
It was a casual soft criticism of your analysis at 12:45. You suggest that the sparsely populated city was a function of a narrative on the malaise of society, the lack of economic and social hustle and bustle when compared to Akira. - I was making an off-hand remark using your phrasing that it was actually due to the greatly reduced budget when compared to Akira. I like your channel and insights as a whole, thought I'd have a bit of fun where I disagree with just a small part of the analysis.
Oh, okay. I was a little confused but I get what you're saying now. Thanks for the clarification.
Or maybe they adapted to the lower budget and made a point by having a sparsely populated city?
People say you need a physiology book in order to understand evangelion and the truth is even more complex then that. You have to understand yourself and your physiology in order to understand evangelion.