We are watching your videos in a pretty random order but we just love, admire and appreciate your dedication and devotion to Sheffield and its footballing history.
Replying to your history, 1. My god, you grew up in Africa but did this for your love of sheffield football . I'm a 55 year owd blade from the bottom end of norfolk park about half a mile away from the ground, could hear every cheer and see the kop from my bedroom window. Your channel is extraordinary. Thanks pal.
First and foremost, I am a Working Class Northerner in Liverpool Merseyside. Great educational video, here is where I disagree with you ... what you are explaining to us is this. You are giving us one the origins of where football evolved ... and it is something to be proud of! I love Sheffield and its people United or Wednesday! However here is something "I Hate" to state (given my class) yet we have to recognize the Southeast University's of harrow and Eaton along with The Football Association establishing itself in London and staying there was the other origin of Football ... they were The Upper Class . I consider "The Home" as England across our country and Wembley for our National Team, along with The F.A. Cup Finals We also have to recognize that Scotland embraced Football in the early formative years as well.
Hi Dave, I don't know where to start with this one other than the view you express is now very much outdated I'm afraid. If you are looking at the history of modern organised association football then it comes from Sheffield. A game being played in Sheffield as early as 1865 will have looked very much like a modern game.The London game didn't as it was a dribbling game purely and not widely played. 188 clubs existed in Sheffield when only 400 existed in the whole world (pre mid 1875). We know now this due to very recent research. Many places contributed to the game including Scotland but the organised modern version of association football, club, rules, tournaments, the way the game is played through tactics and formations etc.. that all comes from Sheffield. I am also working class and from Bolton.
@@SheffieldTheHomeofFootball In reply to what you have said, you have Origins as does The South of England. Yet The Established "Home" is the National Stadium of Wembley and The English Football Association both are situated in London the capital of England ... That is where The Football "Establishment" is today! I have always said this "We in England (that enfranchises your history) established The World Game of Football, and its "The Home" Let me give you an analogy of "my home" I spent the first 27 of my life living in an area of Liverpool called Childwall Valley. I have have spent the last 32 years in another part of Liverpool called Wavertree ... I consider myself a Wavertree resident in Liverpool, I may have had "origins" in Childwall Valley (now called Childwall) But I have "Established" most of my life in Wavertree "in Liverpool"
@@merseydave1 Hi Dave, good point but where would you put the home of The Beatles? Or Shakespeare? Or Golf? Forgot to say I am happy to send you any references I have, just ask. Enjoy the other videos.
@@SheffieldTheHomeofFootball I am replying to you without any malice, In regard to your response to me, I would agree. However the Football Authorities in the Sheffield (back then) did not try to expand across the Nation ... Sadly those Upper Class twites did, and set up a National Football Association in London!.
@@merseydave1 Of course no malice Dave but let me explain. The world's first inter city match was in Jan 1865 when Sheffield FC went to play the just formed (8th Dec 1864 - not 1862) Notts team. The railways then spread the game out to Derbyshire, Lincolnshire, the West Midlands, Lancashire & Scotland (yes even Scotland was connected to Sheffield by rail). At Sheffield's suggestion Sheffield teams played regularly in London also to help keep the association game alive there. 6 clubs existed in London in 1867, nearly 200 clubs played regularly in Sheffield pre 1875. The most significant Sheffield export was Jack Hunter in 1882. He was forced out of Sheffield to join Blackburn Olympic. He took Sheffield's tactical passing game over the hills to transform BO and win the 1883 FA Cup final. Most historians regard this as the biggest upset in the game and the start of the popular game. Netflix made a series about it called the English Game but replaced Hunter with Fergus Suter to promote the notion that modern football comes from north of the border (wrong!). Association football was made in Sheffield and then it spread around the country and beyond. Most clubs played Sheffield Rules in there first 20 years of the game not London FA rules. Regarding the FA, it wasn't national in it's first 10 years and did nothing to 'spread' the game infill 1871 with the introduction of the FA cup. Even then it strongly resisted opening up the game to the masses, everything Sheffield managed to do in time. This is all in my videos.
We are watching your videos in a pretty random order but we just love, admire and appreciate your dedication and devotion to Sheffield and its footballing history.
Replying to your history, 1.
My god, you grew up in Africa but did this for your love of sheffield football . I'm a 55 year owd blade from the bottom end of norfolk park about half a mile away from the ground, could hear every cheer and see the kop from my bedroom window. Your channel is extraordinary. Thanks pal.
Thank for your support John!
First and foremost, I am a Working Class Northerner in Liverpool Merseyside.
Great educational video, here is where I disagree with you ... what you are explaining to us is this.
You are giving us one the origins of where football evolved ... and it is something to be proud of!
I love Sheffield and its people United or Wednesday!
However here is something "I Hate" to state (given my class) yet we have to recognize the Southeast University's of harrow and Eaton along with The Football Association establishing itself in London and staying there was the other origin of Football ... they were The Upper Class .
I consider "The Home" as England across our country and Wembley for our National Team, along with The F.A. Cup Finals
We also have to recognize that Scotland embraced Football in the early formative years as well.
Hi Dave, I don't know where to start with this one other than the view you express is now very much outdated I'm afraid. If you are looking at the history of modern organised association football then it comes from Sheffield. A game being played in Sheffield as early as 1865 will have looked very much like a modern game.The London game didn't as it was a dribbling game purely and not widely played. 188 clubs existed in Sheffield when only 400 existed in the whole world (pre mid 1875). We know now this due to very recent research. Many places contributed to the game including Scotland but the organised modern version of association football, club, rules, tournaments, the way the game is played through tactics and formations etc.. that all comes from Sheffield. I am also working class and from Bolton.
@@SheffieldTheHomeofFootball In reply to what you have said, you have Origins as does The South of England. Yet The Established "Home" is the National Stadium of Wembley and The English Football Association both are situated in London the capital of England ... That is where The Football "Establishment" is today! I have always said this "We in England (that enfranchises your history) established The World Game of Football, and its "The Home"
Let me give you an analogy of "my home" I spent the first 27 of my life living in an area of Liverpool called Childwall Valley. I have have spent the last 32 years in another part of Liverpool called Wavertree ... I consider myself a Wavertree resident in Liverpool, I may have had "origins" in Childwall Valley (now called Childwall) But I have "Established" most of my life in Wavertree "in Liverpool"
@@merseydave1 Hi Dave, good point but where would you put the home of The Beatles? Or Shakespeare? Or Golf? Forgot to say I am happy to send you any references I have, just ask. Enjoy the other videos.
@@SheffieldTheHomeofFootball I am replying to you without any malice, In regard to your response to me, I would agree. However the Football Authorities in the Sheffield (back then) did not try to expand across the Nation ... Sadly those Upper Class twites did, and set up a National Football Association in London!.
@@merseydave1 Of course no malice Dave but let me explain. The world's first inter city match was in Jan 1865 when Sheffield FC went to play the just formed (8th Dec 1864 - not 1862) Notts team. The railways then spread the game out to Derbyshire, Lincolnshire, the West Midlands, Lancashire & Scotland (yes even Scotland was connected to Sheffield by rail). At Sheffield's suggestion Sheffield teams played regularly in London also to help keep the association game alive there. 6 clubs existed in London in 1867, nearly 200 clubs played regularly in Sheffield pre 1875. The most significant Sheffield export was Jack Hunter in 1882. He was forced out of Sheffield to join Blackburn Olympic. He took Sheffield's tactical passing game over the hills to transform BO and win the 1883 FA Cup final. Most historians regard this as the biggest upset in the game and the start of the popular game. Netflix made a series about it called the English Game but replaced Hunter with Fergus Suter to promote the notion that modern football comes from north of the border (wrong!). Association football was made in Sheffield and then it spread around the country and beyond. Most clubs played Sheffield Rules in there first 20 years of the game not London FA rules. Regarding the FA, it wasn't national in it's first 10 years and did nothing to 'spread' the game infill 1871 with the introduction of the FA cup. Even then it strongly resisted opening up the game to the masses, everything Sheffield managed to do in time. This is all in my videos.
At the nearest bank where overratted overpaid footballers stash their cash. R.