Yeah his voice author said it was some cut audios of him being suspicious as a pedophile and shi i mean i already knew when he asked the girls did everything come out all right like he was weird asl .
i could imagine kenny slowing slipping into insanity and power hunger, this with luke replacing jane would of made the the ending way more interesting and the choices harder.
Ok a Luke vs Kenny choice would have been so much harder to make. I think that would have been the better way to go about it. Its easy to not like Jane because she often makes selfish choices. I think Luke fighting Kenny would have been better. The problem is AJ and I think thats why they didn't go with it. Kenny wouldn't put AJ in danger and Luke absolutely wouldn't either. Jane was the only person in that group that would even think about hiding him and putting him in danger. And that cut ending wouldn't allow for later games.
The problem is at least based off of the story we got Kenny and Luke fighting, wouldn’t have made sense because their views are pretty similar. Just get everyone to safety. That’s all they wanted. Jane was nuts, but those two just had the same ideology. There would’ve had to been a crazy confliction at some point.
Kenny isn't really such a better person in comparison to Jane. We are just exposed to Kenny more but he is very selfish as well and has put us in danger more often than Jane has the ability to. For example, people hate Jane because she left AJ in that car, but Kenny would have left Clem with that kidnapper just because he doesn't like Lee. Take into account, this kidnapper could have been way more disturbing than the one we got and Kenny didn't care because he was selfish. And that selfishness and impulsiveness is on a bigger display in Season 2.
The idea of putting clementine in a situation like the one brought up with Troy, wasn't the first Back in the first game at the Dairy Farm, one of the brothers made comments about missing summer around their house because little girls used to run around in their little dresses. The other brother cuts in saying he can't have the girl, clementine, because they needed to focus on who they were keeping for meat storage
i wish we had seen christa return, but i also like the fact she disappeared and hasn't returned because id like to imagine that she managed to find a place like wellington and got time to heal from losing omid, their baby and clem. although, seeing christa and kenny meet back up, if kenny had saved christa rather than ben, would have been such a good scene!
@@Crazyguy_123MC seeing her in season 3 or even season 4 in place of lilly would have been so interesting. i've always enjoyed thinking about how the story would go down if christa had been in charge of the delta instead of lilly!
That ending of clementine dying... fucking christ. I'm trying to imagine what I would think as a kid playing through it and then being hit with clementine dying
Honestly Christa should have been in Lilly's position as main villain. She came across the group became a leader and while her life continued her resentment for Clementine who she blames for inadvertently killing Omid. She can even have a moment where she struggles to shoot Clem on the ground because she still loves her or something idk I am not a writer.
Thank you for helping keep the love of this series alive, with the ending of the game series in 2019 and the end of the show very recently TWD is losing traction fast your a real one for keeping the love of these games alive and continue to talk about it
11:15 I must say Kenny potentially being the villain isn't that far fetched; considering how he does display "warlord" like moments in Season 1 like wanting to take over the St John's farm - even without the group knowing the atrocities they had committed thus far. He is very keen on protecting those that he loves, BUT he is also one to snap at those he loves as his breaking point had exceeded him losing Katjaa and Duck.
@@Noer1987i know that in the ps3 version of the game prob right as the ep came out you could shoot mike its the only version that it was left it i think i remember doing it on ps3 there is Dialog with kenny and jane where clem asks if mike is dead they say yes and kenny tells her not to feel sorry and that mike had it coming or something
Honestly when I seen this vid in my recommendations this morning I was like "why am I even watching this, I already know pretty much everything about this games cut content" though was pleasantly suprised to see alot I didn't know such as the rabbit and unused Omid lines. Great video, seriously well done!
I would have loved to see more of Christa. I wonder if originally, it was her baby who Chem ended up looking after. Who knows? Thanks for compiling all of this for us ❤ keep up the amazing work!!!
8:10 I would’ve lost it if I had to witness that..Considering I went thru that myself as a kid. 13:49 I liked Jane I mean she saved the group a few times. And taught Clem a few useful survival skills. 16:32 look I didn’t Rob Arvo last night in my gameplay and yet he shows up goes to rob me and says I robbed him. I specifically didn’t rob him for a reason because I knew we were going to run into them and end up with that problem again. 17:10 also I gave up my gun to Mike and Aron still shot me 😩 Yeah We just finished season 2 last night for my 2nd time gameplay. Which we’re Doing a Episode Ea Tues - Sat night at 8pm. 20:36 And In my ending, I just walked away from Kenny. Kenny was still alive when I left at the end which was a really sad moving moment man.😢 So far I’ve played 5 Telltale Games in the past Yr and one of my subscribers sent me Game of Thrones To play Next.. In honor of Clementine Final Story book dropping in June 2025… I’m doing a Clementine comic book issue 1 & 2 giveaway around the end of my 2nd time gameplay.
The Tory SA Clementine thing, It was officially debunked by Owen Thomas (Tory’s/Omids voice actor) 2 times when he was asked by two different people in the comments of one of his videos on his TH-cam channel 6 years ago. Comment 1: is it true that troy was originally going to molest clem at some point in the game? Owen’s response: n00000000... They'd never go there. (End quote) Comment 2: In the old script clem was supposed to see Troy at the cabin and Troy would molest clem. Owen’s response: I never saw that version. (End quote) However it was implied that Troy was going to be much worse in the original script than what he was in the final product. 3 examples I can give from the same comment section of Owen’s video. Example 1 ^^^ Comment: Hey Owen, you said Troy was supposed to be way worse than he is (Unused scenes) Can you please give an example of why you say that? Owen’s response: Just some lines that were REALLY sexist and creepy. Can't remember anything exact. (End quote) Example 2 ^^^ Comment: I do have two questions that I'm hoping you can answer: You mentioned before that he and Jane had more of a story? I was curious as to what it was before they decided to cut it out. Also, how was Troy supposed to be worse? Sorry, I like...adore him and want to know everything I can if possible. Owen’s response: I only remember a little, but I think he was basically sexually harassing her. Not sure why they didn't keep it... There were definitely some other lines that I think were deemed a little to... harsh or racy. He was a blast to play. Total opposite of Omid. :) (end quote) Example 3 ^^^ Owen’s comment: There were some scenes they didn't use that made him WAY worse :) Sexist, homophobic... you name it! I wish I could give more details, but he was a WAY worse man on the script. (End quote) Based on this information, it was implied that Troy was going to be sexist, homophobic, and Just a really messed up guy. But there’s no proof in regards to the Troy Clem storyline ever existing, as it was debunked twice by Owen confirming that if there even was a plotline like that, he never seen it. Hence no mention of it in the files, models, or animations. But if you want cut content about the telltale walking dead games or even other telltale games. A TH-cam channel I’d highly recommend is the channel “InColdBlood” he’s covered all 4 seasons of the walking dead, especially seasons 2&3. also covered cut content from the wolf among us telltale game.
Of the 4 TWD games, season 2 is the one I dislike the most by a long shot. Which is intersting to me because I LOVE Kenny. I am firmly in the "Kenny did nothing wrong, always trust Kenny" camp so the ALL of the moments Clem and Kenny have with each other I find so powerful and I love them. Even so I almost hated this game because it felt like my time was being wasted. In Season 1 when you saved a character, those characters would contribute to the story in their own unique way before they finally died. In Season 2 nothing you did ever even felt like it remotely/slightly impacted anything. Characters you saved would literally die in the same episode in one case. It makes it impossible to be willing to replay because I find the only character I can bond with is the guy from episode 1 and Kenny.
I honestly really wish I got to play the dark grim version of this game. Like take me to a timeline where that’s how it ended up being so I can just go through it and then bring me right back here. It’d Just be a really interesting experience I feel. And I really just wish I got to try it because it would’ve been so different man and I just really wonder what it would’ve been like. It’s a fucking tragic, depressing story.
I think clem was going to be shot instead of bitten by Sam. In the promotional screen for episode 1 before it released clem is seen holding her shoulder instead of forearm where’s she bitten as well as blood covering her hand and shoulder. Much bloodier than the final game. She also has a more angrier look instead of her shocked/scared look on the new episode slide after the episode released. As well as some concept art confirms it showing clem with the group infront of her whilst blood gushes out of her arm. Way darker shit.
Clem was going to get shot in the arm if you look it up and you can the they changed how she looks, she looks like she is tired and pissed off and holding her arm in pain.
Nah the writers confirmed it was always a dog bite, at least that was the earliest idea they left in a draft, it might’ve gotten changed to a gunshot midway through development and then changed back but idk
I have always loved season 2 more than all the others because this season has probably the most what if’s and most cut content. Also in episode 4 amid the ruins you can see outlines of characters and one of them is Eddie from 400 days he is in a hood believe he was supposed to have a bigger part in the story.
Im 17 and I still have my PS3 version of season 2 and I swear I shot Mike and I was too young to play online or how it worked. So I think my game never got updated
Is it weird if I prefer the dark story ending? Just felt like all of your choices matter more. In the dark story ending. The only way everyone could be saved is, if you made the right choices. Like heavy rain, or Detroit beyond human. Or guardians of the Galaxy. I’m surprised in cold blood. Didn’t tell us any of this. There’s a ton of new information here.
While I don't think season 2 is the 'best' of the series, I do feel connected to it far more than the others. I also have always liked Jane, but I think switching her position with Luke in the final episode would be far more compelling than it is currently.
Honestly though I still don’t shoot Kenny in Ep 5, but I can’t help but feel a sense of empathy and compassion for Jane cause she’s gonna die, but I can’t shoot Kenny and I won’t
@@lil_jay7926 Yeah I never shoot Kenny, but I can't bring myself to stay with him either. I always end up with the alone ending, no matter how many times I play it. While I like Jane, if it was Luke at the ending I think I might actually change my decision.
@@avah3643 I will say though I do leave with Kenny even though I know his fate in S3 but knowing if I stay in Wellington, Kenny might possibly live but when getting to that choice as much as I want to stay in Wellington for Kenny, I can’t leave bro like he was an og
@@avah3643 I forgot to mention as well, I wasn’t the biggest fan of Jane tbh, cause a lot could’ve been avoided if Jane didn’t hide AJ, but when getting to that choice I still feel some compassion and empathy for Jane cause I am letting her die and all but I can’t and won’t shoot Kenny
epic video, big fan of these games for many many years and i would be so down to see a video on this topic for anf or tfs, you have a good way of explaining while maintaining your casual vibe and it was a very very good watch, thank you for this video friend also, i would have enjoyed kenny vs luke way more than kenny and jane for the same reasons as described in the video. Would have been a way harder choice for me
OMGGG i feel so alone when i say that season 2 is my personal fav, although i can admit it isnt the factual best game (cuz its always gonna be s1 🫡), but s2 released really soon after i finished watching season 1 so i went about watching it as the episodes came out and my hype was insane, i still remember how sickening rebecca’s lore was, especially as a kid 😔 and i always hated how ppl disrespected her so bad and her death was so tragic 💔 im glad that they didnt simply get rid of AJ in the ending, as he wouldve just been gone either way u pick which wouldve killed the entire s4 story 😭😭🙏🏻 ugh i can talk about s2 for dayssss
The problem with Luke vs Kenny or at least based off of the story we got, Kenny and Luke fighting, wouldn’t have made sense because their views are pretty similar. Just get everyone to safety. That’s all they wanted. Jane was nuts, but those two just had the same ideology. There would’ve had to been a crazy confliction at some point.
Tbh if this Troy thing happened it would've been very in line with the tone of the comics because the comics get into that kind of thing frequently. The comics can be very hard to read because of the dark tone
So in terms of the Troy SA Clem storyline. It was officially debunked by Owen Thomas (VA for Troy/Omid) when he got asked about it twice in the comments of one of his TH-cam videos. I have a comment on this video going into some detail about it, but my source is the TH-cam video titled. “the best of Troy from the walking dead game *NSFW*” channel name is Owenactor.
I loved season 2 the most too. There's something in playing a little girl surrounded by horrible things and people fighting all the time that I find so interesting.. Even tho I wish the people around clem would've treated her more like a child and not someone they need to depend on to survive. Yes clem is capable but she's a kid in that game and they always put her in so much trouble. I know they couldn't have made a game without giving us a lot of trouble and stuff to do but at least let the characters fight for you NOT to do these things as you're a literal child The only time was when carlos didn't want clem to go with Luke to check the bridge. THE ONLY TIME I SAW CLEM GET TREATED LIKE A CHILD OTHER THAN THE START WITH CHRISTA AMD OMID. Like all the characters talk to you like you're a kid but they're so fucking dependent on you its insane Yeah she's the main character and the game needs to be interesting but comeon they could've add way more things to make us feel like we play as a kid in an apocalypse. Only thing they do is to talk to clem like a kid but they're dependent on her like she's some kind of a big black strong survival expert.
Honestly I think it was better that Telltale scrapped the dark story in Season 2, but you can tell that it was a last minute decision since the final product, you can see how some of the writing was a little all over the place
I think they didn't make Troy the main bad guy because he seems much more vicious and sadistic than Carver, with the possible SA thing as well, he would be just a comics Governor rip-off lacking substance.
So I’m a huge walking dead fan and as much as I liked season 2 it was always missing something. All of this cut content I feel like would’ve been a much better story to tell. HOWEVER the Troy scene could’ve been done differently where it ALMOST happened and someone stopped him from doing it almost like Ellie in the last of us with the preacher. Kenny vs Luke would’ve been preferred over Kenny vs Jane. Overall I feel like these changes is what ultimately stopped the game from being great. Also feel Christa could’ve brought something to the story that was missing as well, as I’ve heard her and Clem were supposed to be almost like a duo protagonists.
I think Clem was supposed to die either way, since it would have been emotionally devastating to the player to sacrifice AJ only for it to mean absolutely nothing at all...
All I can say is they could have made season 2 even better then season 1 given the plot they were given. And it's crazy how much they nerfed their own story
To this day, I don't know why they removed the option to shoot Mike.
Same dude! Mike,Arvo,Jane,And Bonnie are up there with Larry And Vernon From Season 1 In Terms Of How Much Of An Opp They Are
About the Troy and Clementine subplot, Troy’s VA has confirmed that it wasn’t planned.
Yeah his voice author said it was some cut audios of him being suspicious as a pedophile and shi i mean i already knew when he asked the girls did everything come out all right like he was weird asl .
Troy and kenny whould have followed luke nick sarah and clem, aj in the snow. Kenny ends up killing nick in this scenario
Troy's voice actor debunked that. He was never supposed to abuse Clem. Though, Troy did abuse Jane at one point in development
i could imagine kenny slowing slipping into insanity and power hunger, this with luke replacing jane would of made the the ending way more interesting and the choices harder.
Ok a Luke vs Kenny choice would have been so much harder to make. I think that would have been the better way to go about it. Its easy to not like Jane because she often makes selfish choices. I think Luke fighting Kenny would have been better. The problem is AJ and I think thats why they didn't go with it. Kenny wouldn't put AJ in danger and Luke absolutely wouldn't either. Jane was the only person in that group that would even think about hiding him and putting him in danger. And that cut ending wouldn't allow for later games.
The problem is at least based off of the story we got Kenny and Luke fighting, wouldn’t have made sense because their views are pretty similar. Just get everyone to safety. That’s all they wanted. Jane was nuts, but those two just had the same ideology. There would’ve had to been a crazy confliction at some point.
Kenny isn't really such a better person in comparison to Jane. We are just exposed to Kenny more but he is very selfish as well and has put us in danger more often than Jane has the ability to.
For example, people hate Jane because she left AJ in that car, but Kenny would have left Clem with that kidnapper just because he doesn't like Lee. Take into account, this kidnapper could have been way more disturbing than the one we got and Kenny didn't care because he was selfish. And that selfishness and impulsiveness is on a bigger display in Season 2.
The idea of putting clementine in a situation like the one brought up with Troy, wasn't the first
Back in the first game at the Dairy Farm, one of the brothers made comments about missing summer around their house because little girls used to run around in their little dresses. The other brother cuts in saying he can't have the girl, clementine, because they needed to focus on who they were keeping for meat storage
i wish we had seen christa return, but i also like the fact she disappeared and hasn't returned because id like to imagine that she managed to find a place like wellington and got time to heal from losing omid, their baby and clem. although, seeing christa and kenny meet back up, if kenny had saved christa rather than ben, would have been such a good scene!
also, if you haven't looked at 400 days cut content, some of that is pretty interesting like 'tavia's bad day'
It would have been amazing if she showed up in Season 3.
@@Crazyguy_123MC seeing her in season 3 or even season 4 in place of lilly would have been so interesting. i've always enjoyed thinking about how the story would go down if christa had been in charge of the delta instead of lilly!
That ending of clementine dying... fucking christ. I'm trying to imagine what I would think as a kid playing through it and then being hit with clementine dying
Honestly Christa should have been in Lilly's position as main villain. She came across the group became a leader and while her life continued her resentment for Clementine who she blames for inadvertently killing Omid. She can even have a moment where she struggles to shoot Clem on the ground because she still loves her or something idk I am not a writer.
even tho i already watched probably like 5 videos about twd cut content i still find this intresting, i hope youre channel grows
Thank you!
I also like season 2. Season 2 has that on the road vibe from TWD season 5. Love Carver, Clementine and Kenny!
that ending literally made my stomach turn asf, bc that is so fucking dark, i’m glad they didn’t go for that.
Did you really needed to drop the f bomb
@@Firework_Freddy0417that’s just how some people talk, you’ll understand when you’re older.
@@Firework_Freddy0417yes, I fucking needed to.
@@Firework_Freddy0417I mean it’s the internet you can type whatever you want like you have to be a minor to be asking that question 🤣
@@teoalleyne so just say I can’t ask that don’t have to put a laughing emoji stupid
Thank you for helping keep the love of this series alive, with the ending of the game series in 2019 and the end of the show very recently TWD is losing traction fast your a real one for keeping the love of these games alive and continue to talk about it
11:15 I must say Kenny potentially being the villain isn't that far fetched; considering how he does display "warlord" like moments in Season 1 like wanting to take over the St John's farm - even without the group knowing the atrocities they had committed thus far. He is very keen on protecting those that he loves, BUT he is also one to snap at those he loves as his breaking point had exceeded him losing Katjaa and Duck.
17:14 you aren't the only one. I SWEAR I remember shooting mike then feeling bad and had to rewind and take the bullet
Thank God I'm not crazy. But I know it couldn't be the same thing because I played on Xbox a bit after release
@@Noer1987 I played it on PS3 on disc, But I had no internet so didn't download the update, I swear. I remember it!
He's a thief.
I remember there was this one youtube video with a PC file that restored that choice. It worked for me.
@@Noer1987i know that in the ps3 version of the game prob right as the ep came out you could shoot mike its the only version that it was left it i think i remember doing it on ps3 there is Dialog with kenny and jane where clem asks if mike is dead they say yes and kenny tells her not to feel sorry and that mike had it coming or something
Stay at Wellington gang, where you at?
They ain’t herI stayed with my boy Kenny Kenny for life ✊
@@Noobmaster69-wl1fdexcept he got done dirty and DIED IN A CAR CRASH
@@pinabbl AY LOW BLOW MANNNNNN AND BCS OF YOUR CHOICE HE HAD NOTHING LEFT TO LIVE FOR N PROBABLY KILLED HIM SELF 😭
Stay at Wellington gang when Telltale removes that as an option to continue from in Season 4.
Honestly when I seen this vid in my recommendations this morning I was like "why am I even watching this, I already know pretty much everything about this games cut content" though was pleasantly suprised to see alot I didn't know such as the rabbit and unused Omid lines. Great video, seriously well done!
I would have loved to see more of Christa. I wonder if originally, it was her baby who Chem ended up looking after. Who knows? Thanks for compiling all of this for us ❤ keep up the amazing work!!!
8:10 I would’ve lost it if I had to witness that..Considering I went thru that myself as a kid. 13:49 I liked Jane I mean she saved the group a few times. And taught Clem a few useful survival skills. 16:32 look I didn’t Rob Arvo last night in my gameplay and yet he shows up goes to rob me and says I robbed him. I specifically didn’t rob him for a reason because I knew we were going to run into them and end up with that problem again. 17:10 also I gave up my gun to Mike and Aron still shot me 😩
Yeah We just finished season 2 last night for my 2nd time gameplay. Which we’re Doing a Episode Ea Tues - Sat night at 8pm.
20:36 And In my ending, I just walked away from Kenny. Kenny was still alive when I left at the end which was a really sad moving moment man.😢
So far I’ve played 5 Telltale Games in the past Yr and one of my subscribers sent me Game of Thrones To play Next..
In honor of Clementine Final Story book dropping in June 2025… I’m doing a Clementine comic book issue 1 & 2 giveaway around the end of my 2nd time gameplay.
The Tory SA Clementine thing, It was officially debunked by Owen Thomas (Tory’s/Omids voice actor) 2 times when he was asked by two different people in the comments of one of his videos on his TH-cam channel 6 years ago.
Comment 1:
is it true that troy was originally going to molest clem at some point in the game?
Owen’s response:
n00000000... They'd never go there. (End quote)
Comment 2:
In the old script clem was supposed to see Troy at the cabin and Troy would molest clem.
Owen’s response:
I never saw that version. (End quote)
However it was implied that Troy was going to be much worse in the original script than what he was in the final product. 3 examples I can give from the same comment section of Owen’s video.
Example 1
^^^
Comment:
Hey Owen, you said Troy was supposed to be way worse than he is (Unused scenes)
Can you please give an example of why you say that?
Owen’s response:
Just some lines that were REALLY sexist and creepy. Can't remember anything exact. (End quote)
Example 2
^^^
Comment:
I do have two questions that I'm hoping you can answer: You mentioned before that he and Jane had more of a story? I was curious as to what it was before they decided to cut it out. Also, how was Troy supposed to be worse? Sorry, I like...adore him and want to know everything I can if possible.
Owen’s response:
I only remember a little, but I think he was basically sexually harassing her. Not sure why they didn't keep it... There were definitely some other lines that I think were deemed a little to... harsh or racy. He was a blast to play. Total opposite of Omid. :) (end quote)
Example 3
^^^
Owen’s comment: There were some scenes they didn't use that made him WAY
worse :) Sexist, homophobic... you name it! I wish I could give more details, but he was a WAY worse man on the script. (End quote)
Based on this information, it was implied that Troy was going to be sexist, homophobic, and Just a really messed up guy. But there’s no proof in regards to the Troy Clem storyline ever existing, as it was debunked twice by Owen confirming that if there even was a plotline like that, he never seen it. Hence no mention of it in the files, models, or animations.
But if you want cut content about the telltale walking dead games or even other telltale games. A TH-cam channel I’d highly recommend is the channel “InColdBlood” he’s covered all 4 seasons of the walking dead, especially seasons 2&3. also covered cut content from the wolf among us telltale game.
Would’ve loved to see that version of him. Would’ve gave him a more intimidating/bigger role. It would’ve been interesting.
Of the 4 TWD games, season 2 is the one I dislike the most by a long shot. Which is intersting to me because I LOVE Kenny. I am firmly in the "Kenny did nothing wrong, always trust Kenny" camp so the ALL of the moments Clem and Kenny have with each other I find so powerful and I love them. Even so I almost hated this game because it felt like my time was being wasted.
In Season 1 when you saved a character, those characters would contribute to the story in their own unique way before they finally died. In Season 2 nothing you did ever even felt like it remotely/slightly impacted anything. Characters you saved would literally die in the same episode in one case. It makes it impossible to be willing to replay because I find the only character I can bond with is the guy from episode 1 and Kenny.
They were right to scrap the dark ending.
I honestly agree, even if they didn’t scrap it, I don’t think it still would match Season 1’s greatness
I honestly really wish I got to play the dark grim version of this game. Like take me to a timeline where that’s how it ended up being so I can just go through it and then bring me right back here. It’d Just be a really interesting experience I feel. And I really just wish I got to try it because it would’ve been so different man and I just really wonder what it would’ve been like. It’s a fucking tragic, depressing story.
I think clem was going to be shot instead of bitten by Sam. In the promotional screen for episode 1 before it released clem is seen holding her shoulder instead of forearm where’s she bitten as well as blood covering her hand and shoulder. Much bloodier than the final game. She also has a more angrier look instead of her shocked/scared look on the new episode slide after the episode released. As well as some concept art confirms it showing clem with the group infront of her whilst blood gushes out of her arm. Way darker shit.
Clem was going to get shot in the arm if you look it up and you can the they changed how she looks, she looks like she is tired and pissed off and holding her arm in pain.
I never knew that!
Nah the writers confirmed it was always a dog bite, at least that was the earliest idea they left in a draft, it might’ve gotten changed to a gunshot midway through development and then changed back but idk
I have always loved season 2 more than all the others because this season has probably the most what if’s and most cut content. Also in episode 4 amid the ruins you can see outlines of characters and one of them is Eddie from 400 days he is in a hood believe he was supposed to have a bigger part in the story.
8:07 That is debunked by Troy's actor himself.
Im 17 and I still have my PS3 version of season 2 and I swear I shot Mike and I was too young to play online or how it worked. So I think my game never got updated
Is it weird if I prefer the dark story ending? Just felt like all of your choices matter more. In the dark story ending. The only way everyone could be saved is, if you made the right choices. Like heavy rain, or Detroit beyond human. Or guardians of the Galaxy. I’m surprised in cold blood. Didn’t tell us any of this. There’s a ton of new information here.
He talked about all of this in his videos? No offence to this guy but there wasn’t anything new in this video that ICB didn’t cover.
While I don't think season 2 is the 'best' of the series, I do feel connected to it far more than the others. I also have always liked Jane, but I think switching her position with Luke in the final episode would be far more compelling than it is currently.
Honestly though I still don’t shoot Kenny in Ep 5, but I can’t help but feel a sense of empathy and compassion for Jane cause she’s gonna die, but I can’t shoot Kenny and I won’t
@@lil_jay7926 Yeah I never shoot Kenny, but I can't bring myself to stay with him either. I always end up with the alone ending, no matter how many times I play it. While I like Jane, if it was Luke at the ending I think I might actually change my decision.
@@avah3643 I will say though I do leave with Kenny even though I know his fate in S3 but knowing if I stay in Wellington, Kenny might possibly live but when getting to that choice as much as I want to stay in Wellington for Kenny, I can’t leave bro like he was an og
@@avah3643 I forgot to mention as well, I wasn’t the biggest fan of Jane tbh, cause a lot could’ve been avoided if Jane didn’t hide AJ, but when getting to that choice I still feel some compassion and empathy for Jane cause I am letting her die and all but I can’t and won’t shoot Kenny
epic video, big fan of these games for many many years and i would be so down to see a video on this topic for anf or tfs, you have a good way of explaining while maintaining your casual vibe and it was a very very good watch, thank you for this video friend
also, i would have enjoyed kenny vs luke way more than kenny and jane for the same reasons as described in the video. Would have been a way harder choice for me
Lessgooo, we need that season 3 and season 4 cut content
if Kenny was the villain, I still would've picked Kenny LMAO! Kenny ride or die!
Unrelated to the topic but I love the hot dawg man sticker!!
this is also the darkest season with the cut content💀
OMGGG i feel so alone when i say that season 2 is my personal fav, although i can admit it isnt the factual best game (cuz its always gonna be s1 🫡), but s2 released really soon after i finished watching season 1 so i went about watching it as the episodes came out and my hype was insane, i still remember how sickening rebecca’s lore was, especially as a kid 😔 and i always hated how ppl disrespected her so bad and her death was so tragic 💔 im glad that they didnt simply get rid of AJ in the ending, as he wouldve just been gone either way u pick which wouldve killed the entire s4 story 😭😭🙏🏻 ugh i can talk about s2 for dayssss
The problem with Luke vs Kenny or at least based off of the story we got, Kenny and Luke fighting, wouldn’t have made sense because their views are pretty similar. Just get everyone to safety. That’s all they wanted. Jane was nuts, but those two just had the same ideology. There would’ve had to been a crazy confliction at some point.
The Troy SA'ing Clem thing was debunked by Troy's voice actor and i dont see a reason why he would lie about that
Tbh if this Troy thing happened it would've been very in line with the tone of the comics because the comics get into that kind of thing frequently. The comics can be very hard to read because of the dark tone
I wish the story was darker.
Do season 4 too please
Not to say the first season wasn’t dark because it 100% was but season 2 is just so much more hopeless. Love both games
Hello! :)
It’s nice to hear some Season 2 love
So in terms of the Troy SA Clem storyline. It was officially debunked by Owen Thomas (VA for Troy/Omid) when he got asked about it twice in the comments of one of his TH-cam videos.
I have a comment on this video going into some detail about it, but my source is the TH-cam video titled.
“the best of Troy from the walking dead game *NSFW*” channel name is Owenactor.
This was a fun video! Would love to see a new frontier cut content :D
I swear I remember getting the shoot mike option
I loved season 2 the most too.
There's something in playing a little girl surrounded by horrible things and people fighting all the time that I find so interesting..
Even tho I wish the people around clem would've treated her more like a child and not someone they need to depend on to survive. Yes clem is capable but she's a kid in that game and they always put her in so much trouble. I know they couldn't have made a game without giving us a lot of trouble and stuff to do but at least let the characters fight for you NOT to do these things as you're a literal child
The only time was when carlos didn't want clem to go with Luke to check the bridge.
THE ONLY TIME I SAW CLEM GET TREATED LIKE A CHILD OTHER THAN THE START WITH CHRISTA AMD OMID.
Like all the characters talk to you like you're a kid but they're so fucking dependent on you its insane Yeah she's the main character and the game needs to be interesting but comeon they could've add way more things to make us feel like we play as a kid in an apocalypse.
Only thing they do is to talk to clem like a kid but they're dependent on her like she's some kind of a big black strong survival expert.
If Kenny was the villain it would’ve made more sense for the choice to be either Kenny or Luke
Honestly I think it was better that Telltale scrapped the dark story in Season 2, but you can tell that it was a last minute decision since the final product, you can see how some of the writing was a little all over the place
The problems with telltale management is why episode 4 and 5 of this season are so boring
Season 2 was also my favorite season. Gets too much hate imo, Clem was such a badass.
I think they didn't make Troy the main bad guy because he seems much more vicious and sadistic than Carver, with the possible SA thing as well, he would be just a comics Governor rip-off lacking substance.
So I’m a huge walking dead fan and as much as I liked season 2 it was always missing something. All of this cut content I feel like would’ve been a much better story to tell. HOWEVER the Troy scene could’ve been done differently where it ALMOST happened and someone stopped him from doing it almost like Ellie in the last of us with the preacher. Kenny vs Luke would’ve been preferred over Kenny vs Jane. Overall I feel like these changes is what ultimately stopped the game from being great. Also feel Christa could’ve brought something to the story that was missing as well, as I’ve heard her and Clem were supposed to be almost like a duo protagonists.
You should do a play-through of all the games!
S2 is my favorite as well
I think Clem was supposed to die either way, since it would have been emotionally devastating to the player to sacrifice AJ only for it to mean absolutely nothing at all...
very far from the topic, but LOVE the stickers on your case!! specially the NITW ones ^_^
All I can say is they could have made season 2 even better then season 1 given the plot they were given. And it's crazy how much they nerfed their own story
I don't understand not seeing Jane as a whole character. She did more than just be the opposition to Kenny.
I like all the seasons yes even season 3, but season 3 isn't too high on the list.
Was it true they were gonna make Luke bit and Kenny would attack him over that.