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- Comprehensive Melee Pit guide. How to beat all melee pit challenges in Horizon Forbidden West. How to beat The Enduring. How to beat Thornmarsh Pit Master. How to beat Bulwark Pit Master. How to beat Scalding Spear Pit Master. How to Beat The Daunt Pit Master. Plus essential melee tips and tricks!
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0:00 - Essential Melee Tips
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Appreciate the shout-out. :-) And thank you for updating with PC controls so that I don't have to. (Still can't believe they haven't fixed traps for the Arena.)
Of course! Had to let people know about your fantastic guide 👍🙂 It really did lay a lot of the groundwork for this video. I also can't believe traps aren't fixed on PC yet lol
melee pits made me cryyy 😢 I needed this vid months ago lmao.. ended up changing from hard to easy to finish these
Lol, yeah, these can be annoying to try to grind through if you keep misclicking some combo buttons, I did the samething, however with the arena challenges.
It also helps to consume a potion or meal before the final melee pit battles. It wont increase damage output, but the extra health you get prior to the battle makes a difference
Another absolutely wonderful contribution to the community! I wish I had the opportunity to see it before my first play through. I found the essential tips between 1:30 and 2:30 especially helpful. Little things like "the game will only register one input ahead of the current animation" make all the difference between achieving the combo and sitting there wondering why it didn't work. That wisdom nugget alone is invaluable.
Thanks! Glad you liked 🙂 Yeah I wish I had this video out a long time ago lol. Hopefully some people can find it helpful from here on though. Thanks for your comment!
best horizon content out there, keep up the great work!
Hey thanks! I appreciate it 🙏🏼😁
On a Side note:
You can cancel a "Power Attack" by using the "Halfmoon-Slash", but did you know you can also cancel the "Halfmoon-Slash"?
After releasing "R1" to perform the "Halfmoon-Slash" immediately tap "L2" to start aiming your Weapon. This will cancel the "Halfmoon-Slash" animation. It might take a few tries (39+ or so😂), but once you get the hang of it, you will be able to entirely SKIP a "Power Attack" recovery.
This cancelling technique can also be used to quickly trigger any "Resonators" your "Power Attack" may have applied.
Just give it a try and maybe let me know if you got it 👇🏻
Thank you for including the keyboard/mouse keys and explaining the pause. I gave up in Chainscrape after bashing away at the jump over, and I can see now there should have been a pause. I also tend to hold down buttons longer the more frustrated I become...clearly not helpful. Maybe I will drop down to easypeasy and tackle the pits after all since melee pits would be my last achievement to platinum.
No problem! Yeah it's very easy to start holding buttons/hitting extra buttons when it gets frustrating (which is always does with learning melee lol). I definitely struggled with these at first. The challenges don't leave any room for error! Hope you find this helpful if you give them another shot 👍
@@ArktixOfficial Ark! OMG, thank you so much for the tutorials. It took some serious retries when the combos got fancy, but I finished all the Pits and just had (what I thought was) the sloppiest fight ever with the Enduring...but won! Platinum achieved.
I experienced how frustrating the melee pits can be😅, but now i'm ready to give it another shot.
I recently switched from my Ranged Infiltrator Playstyle (Quen Deadeye-Outfit) to a Melee/Low Health Hybrid (Oseram Artificer-Outfit) for my first Ultra Hard Playthrough and already developed a few Combo-Chains. Now i'm looking forward to try out different attack sequences and push my Melee-Gameplay to the next level🎉.
Thank you for this helpful guide and keep up the great work!
Thanks! Hope you're enjoying your new playthrough and I hope you find this video helpful!
Of all the challenges in the game the bulwark melee pit was the most frustrating. Took me like 6 hours over 2 days to get it knocked out. Guerilla Games we need you folks to include some melee defensive options before you even consider anymore melee combos for Horizon 3.
Needed this badly six months ago... will definitely save for my next playthrough. Thanks!
This video literally just saved my sanity😂
Haha I hope you find it helpful!
Defeating the Enduring on Ultra Hard for the first time made me feel so accomplished. She’s insanely fast and shoots her bow like a damn semi automatic .
I didn’t enjoy the pits but fighting the enduring was a blast. I have so much respect for her.
As always, best Horizon video on YT ! Love your content as it has helped me a ton enjoying the game on PC !
Fantastic video as always, good to see the community thriving even with no news of Horizon 3 out yet.
Best melee combo imo is Block Breaker -> power attack -> halfmoon cancel -> power attack -> resonator blast. Just repeat power attack -> halfmoon cancel -> power attack until you get a resonator trigger. Halfmoon cancel is when you do a Halfmoon slash but cancel it by immediately aiming your bow, not very hard to do. This combo will melt down any human enemy on any difficulty. But in the Enduring, after triggering a resonator wait a little while when she shakes her head then go for another power attack -> halfmoon cancel -> power attack so you dont trigger her unblockable.
no, just learn how to use Halfmoon slash cancelling system and how to cancel half moonslah itself, thats enough. How you do the combination,which skill you want to use depends on your own
Many thanks Arktix great guide - looking forward to trying this out 👍🏻
So useful! Thanks.
Thanks, Arktix!
Thank you, Artix! Will save this for my next playthrough for sure. I struggled so much with them last time I tried and managed only when I found MrFancyPants' guide. But The Enduring … I failed so many times lol
W video
Thanks!
I recently found how ungodly powerful melee detonator is, I managed to do almost 4900 damage to a machine without frost in one swing of a light attack. Apparently you need to fully draw the weapon technique even tho normal firing won’t get a damage reduction. I could probably have gotten more as I think that warrior bow has a 25 agility perk, but I was keeping track of enough stuff already and the time is just enough to get the 40 melee follow up
Brother! (Or Sister!) 4900 is really high though, but you are indeed correct, unlike everything else on Warrior Bow, Full Draw does matter here. So great you found it out too!
So the base Damage is 35 EX Damage. Very Rare and Legendary Wbows get a 3,75 Multii= 131-132 Damage from a single MDet + the melee hit.
The Damage Bonus works a little different then the Strategy Guide suggest, the second MDet gives +20% Damage, the third +40%. And a Maximum of 4 MDets can be placed on an enemy. So instead of 400% damage (vs a Singular one) it´s 560% Damage.
131 x 5,6 = 733,6 = 734 non Crit Damage. Crit is luckily x2 = 1467,2. Full MFU on Carjas is x2,65 = 3888 Damage (if no other Buffs are added, Full Ecrit should be the same on a crit).
1012 Damage left. Light attack max damage is 64 = 948 . Let´s divide this through the MFU Multi = 948 / 2,65 = 357,74.
Let´s divide this number through most common removal damage (120/145), this leaves the missing multiplier part for the damage:
357,74 / 120 = 2,98 357,74 / 145 = 2,47. Not sure where those come from though.
Oh most damage per stamina Effeciency starts with 3 Mdet. (4Det is the Same, but you can easily get 3 in a MFU time window). Also each cost 25 stamina, so three are 75 Stamina, which is half the stamina bar on Stamina +2 skill (which you get from the skill tree already).
You don’t need to cheat for Chainscrape and Scalding Spear but for Bulwark and Thornmarsh just put down a few Elite Acid traps before talking to the Pitmaster for instant wins. The Enduring is trickier because the game tries to remove the traps but if you put a few down on the ground where she spawns she will trip them off during the loading screen and get damaged significantly. 4-5 Elite traps pretty much takes her to the edge.
You do not cheat for any of them! I´m so disappointed in you!
Thanks for the guide Arktix. Honestly, the p[t challenges suck. Still trying...
1:35 i didn't know this i could have already beat it 😢
During the Pit Master Challenge in Thornmarsh, how did you see that he was about to get his shield back?
Thank you! Great vids as always...these pits were making me rage quit😅
Okay, so I guess my first mistake that I was pressing the inputs too fast. Explaining that I need to wait a bit really helps
Trying to fully complete the game on Ultra hard, I struggled with those melee pits for a long time, especially the Bulwark 1v2 bulls*it. But I ended up finding an RNG-based exploit, that really helped. Sometimes when applying the resonator blast mark on the enemy, it can get placed on their head. Triggering the blast on their head deals like 4x damage from any other part of the body. I don't know, how it could be done consistently though, but that helped me win the Bulwark melee pit. Arktix, you have an opinion?
What I don't like is they nerfed melee. Zero Dawn was way more powerful. It was clear to me that the devs wanted you to use their range weapons. There is no reason why people are harder to defeat than machines. It is so unrealistic of them for doing this.
I found the challenges in the pits more frustrating than the actual pit masters...your guide has helped me understand that it's because of how poor the explanations were.
Then I got to The Enduring and had to cheese her like how you showed, the fact that she can cancel out of most combos and take you to 20% health from full on higher difficulties with her triple bow shot is nuts.
The bullwark was not so hard for me on UH. It took a few tries, but it is really easy so long as you focus on the little guy first, since the big guy is so slow and easy to dodge.
I found Thornmarsh was the hardest melee pit, but it was easily cheezed by placing two advanced shoch traps and he will instantly yield after hitting him with one power attack.
The enduring on the other hand was utter BS. She could just instantly break out of any combo whenever she wanted and counter attack you, and she had SO much health. It took me over an hour to beat her because despite me constantly beating the shit out of her, Aloy would seemingly just randomly decide to yield even though the Enduring didn't even attack me. Found out this was because she can instantly shoot you with her bow without even pulling out her bow, even if she is in hitstun or you are in the middle of a combo. My strategy was to stay away from her, charge power attacks and use resonators. Sometimes block breakers would work, but they are extremely risky because as mentioned she will instantly break out of any combo and counter attack/ shoot you.
No thanks I'm already suffering from turtle and t rex machine
This pause thing was really annoying as it wasn't clear from the in-game explanations. I already did it once on normal difficulty, and it was very frustrating. Maybe I'll try it again on my NewGame on Ultra Hard, which I started last weekend (today I'll try to get Minerva). At least the tactic for the enduring looks like even I could do it. ^^
Do you get anything from your armor during these challenges.
Certainly didn't feel like it for me
Only skillpoints in the skilltree matters, and max HP food health buff.
7:43 - so you missed first light atack, and still succeded Block Breaker combo by staggering the oponent. Am I right?
Yes, this is in a fight, not a combo challenge.
You can start combos "in the air", hitting in a fight is not required, only in the pits for training/challenges of combos.
The melee changes from ZD to FW have to be my biggest issue with FW even though it's better than ZD on almost every other ground. The new melee system just feels bloated with complexity with not enough depth to have it be satisfying; which makes melee combat a stressful task that I need to focus on to do well only for me to be as strong as I was in ZD by just spamming light and heavy attacks.
Don't get me wrong, there are parts I definitely like about the new combat system, resonator blasts especially, but all the combos feel like they're strong enough I shouldn't be ignoring them, but the situations where I can get away with using them are infrequent enough that it's not worth the risk to try and use combos because there's often enough projectile trash flying about to interrupt me whenever I try to use them. Melee requires far too much skill for me to find it useful when I have so many other options that require less skill and are far more tactically interesting like using slides to quick draw and take foes out with hunter bows, or elemental states like corroding and brittle to negate armor for powerful hits with throwing spikes; there are just so many options that are more fun than melee for going up against human enemies.
The combo system in this game is awesome, but it’s kind of disappointing how more effort doesn’t really equate to more effectiveness. Stringing those long pause/jump/shoot combos should fucking annihilate your opponent compared to just doing basic Block Breakers all day, but the juice doesn’t seem worth the squeeze so to speak.
Yeah I would definitely agree with you on that. Pulling of combos isn’t as rewarding as it should be.
Arktix, you need to know any heavy attacks can be cancelled by Halfmoon slash and halfmoon slash can be canceled by aim jump or dudge. I believe you know Ahtano, but why don't you learn to do melee like him😂
Trust me, I’m very aware of that and have been for a long time. I was intentionally not doing it for most of the challenges because it’s a more advanced tactic that is difficult for most people to get used to, especially when they’re frustrated trying to do the melee pits. Showing a more advanced tactic would only be more confusing and frustrating. I try to make my tutorials like this as accessible as possible. So, for those where the Halfmoon Slash cancel wasn’t needed, I did not use it.
@@ArktixOfficial make sense
Great game design when the hardest difficulty encourages spamming the same attack to beat a challenge. But what can you expect, when the difference in difficulty is achieved through bloated enemy healthpools.
you don't really think there are a lot of people playing this game?maybe most of people who are playing around this game have played a very long time like you,so I think it's better to make some advanced tutorial. Like advanced fighting techniques, and by the way, i think you can do an researsh on specter guntlet,like guntlet quick draw.And i did 24515 dmg about half a month ago(single number,not crtical hit), which is very confusing
shield wing quick draw
Maybe two Damage numbers appear as one?
We need more info, you did not told us the circumstance of the shot, do you know how many variables goes into a single shot? All the Buffs/Skills on Aloy, Stealth/Awareness State of Enemies, location hit (Armor Plate, specific weakspot, ) for the railgun, how many hits^^. Then Stuff like Frost...etc.
So what is the most detailed description you can give us here, maybe we can find out together...best is always clip such things and upload it to youtube.
@@paristeta5483 nah,i record a vedio,24515，single shot,white number.
The button inputs are hard enough. And the rewards are nonexistent on harder diff. The story is paper thin as well. Now worth the investment for the casuals. Melee is not viable on very hard and higher. That being said this is an excellent tutorial but by no means does it relay how difficult this is on higher difficulty.
you didn't cancel any of your power attack😂practise more
See my response to your other comment. Trust me, I was Halfmoon Slash cancelling long before you were 😉 Also, if you actually watched the whole video then you’d know I have a whole section on there explaining the Halfmoon Slash.
@@ArktixOfficialThat's true. you'd can do an advanced melee tutorial so we can learn the real melee of this game
I've had that on my list for a while actually. Just haven't gotten to it. Not sure how popular it would be, but it's a video I'd like to make.
i found an even easier way to beat the normal pits: cheating :)
put down elite traps and watch the enemies walk into them
STUPIDEST thing, have so much work for literally no prize or small prize 🤮
Can i have your Upgrade then ?