I believe the reason is that the ideal gas/air mixture for an engine is so lean that it is too hot and causes damage. The way cars get around that is by using extra gas, that isn't even burned, but just being in the combustion chamber changing from liquid to vapor gives additional cooling. Once the steam is going into the engine, that provides a significant increase in cooling, and so the ECU can lean out the fuel mixture more towards the ideal ratio and you get a complete combustion instead of running rich, giving out only water and CO2 which are clear.
In the way you said, the vapor helps with the cooling and this results in more air inside the cilinder improvising the combustion. A better way to the same is spraying cold water on the intake. not to forget the corrosion of the metal.
the steam does not burn, and takes up space in the combustion chamber, acting like nitrus-oxide does(increasing compression), also it steam cleans the parts in the pathway through the engine, and out of the tali pipe, furthermore as the steam is h20 in a mist(suspension in air), the carbon in the emissions of the engine drop out or the exhaust stream and are absorbed into the water vapour exiting the tailpipe(check for black coloured water in the tailpipe)-- more later, best wishes
Congratulations to all!. Finally someone has the gutsy initiative and inventiveness to chase after a better world. Tomorrow, or after , who minds when, but this work and opinions will resonate inside the guts of our engines, and that is what counts.
Hello everybody! I know this is an old video, but considering there are almost no videos about steam injection in internal combustion engines, I shall add my comment here: I believe that this system works and I will try to install it in one of my cars in some near or distant future, but I do believe that even though this is a steam injection system it behaves like a water injection, and I shall explain why: when steam is injected into the intake area, it is comprised of very fine water vapor particles that are about 100 deg. Celsius in temperature. As they leave the steam tube and enter the intake of the vehicle they get in contact with high speed air molecules that are about 20-30 deg Celsius (atmospheric temperature) and get cooled to below 100 deg Celsius turning back into water. And I am CERTAIN they get cooled down, because the steam is comprised of very fine particles of vapor which have tiny thermal inertia. There is plenty of time for the vapor to cool and turn down into liquid when considering the length of the intake tract/manifold. Thus, by the time they enter the engine they are water molecules, not steam and they behave like water injection. But do not get me wrong, i strongly believe that this is the superior system because steam injection is much simple and water atomization is perfect (superior to any misting nozzle one might find in a water injection setup).
Good comment. I am working on a pressure pump misting system for my diesel golf. I appreciate that the fineness of the spray is vitally important. But steam might be a better way to go because it should be ultra fine. More heat though! But maybe that should not be such an issue. Umm :)
@@TheHeartCharmer Hy, thanks for the interest, i actually bench-tested my steam injection prototype this week. It will go into my 1999 VW Lupo, gasoline-powered. I did not prepare any videos for YT, yet, but I do have some footage. If you are interested in seeing it and sharing some information I invite you to add me as a friend on Facebook. My ID is "Laurentiu Ic" ( Ic with Capital " i " , not L ) and my avatar is a cartoon of sort, a stylized version of a vintage logo, with blue, white and black.
Is there any risk of Gunk buildup in the combustion chamber area due to long-term water vapor or steam injection? I so where a guy tried it and had green gunk in the engine after 80,000 miles.
So, what's happening here is that the hot H2O gas(steam) being injected into the combustion chamber has a cooling affect through evaporation and the outcome is cooler exhaust and thus a lower temp. deferential between the outside air and the exhaust. So less condensation also the steam burns into Hydrogen and Oxygen. The Oxygen (like Oxy Clean) acts as a scrubber for the exhaust. Take off your heads and you will see that the top of your cylinders will be spotless due to the Steam/Oxygen.
This is a simple mas flow situation. The moist warm air weighs more. The turbo can more efficiently pump the air and thus the gain in boost. Any condensate in the air is expanded during the combustion at 1600 to one using some of the additional heat energy that would normally be lost as well. I have had a vehicle that ran on upto 50% injected water. This also works by better utilizing the wasted heat energy. These type of systems are used on high performance airplane engines. Brian
The increase in performance is from the water turning to steam and rapidly expanding in the combustion chamber requiring less fuel to create the same volume of expanding gases to drive the power stroke. This is improves torque. The decrease in manifold vacuum is from the steam filling the inlet manifold and increasing the manifold pressure. The turbo spools quicker because of the increased volume of exhaust gasses exiting the combustion chamber.
For 1 year I am cleaning internally my engine with a steam cleaner before oil change. It works fine.I use no chemicals. It is not advisable to run your engine with water because of the rust that will form aftertime.
At lambda is 1 you need about 12 kg of air for 1kg of fuel so there is a lot of vapour in the air. When the mixture is compressed by either the compression stroke or during the detonation the heavier parts of the gasoline will condensate onto the colder parts of the combustion chamber due to the partial vapour pressure(e.g. Octane has a boiling point of 135C). This condensation is very brief, however it demixes the fuel and is the cause of unburnt hydrocarbons. Adding so much water that it condenses before the heavier parts is impossible by means of air humidity. But... when you make an aerosol with water (generally called fog) you will be able to make the air condensate before the heavier parts of gasoline. And even if the heavier parts condensate onto the water, the more volatile water will propel them faster back into the flame. When you put the tube on the air filter you see a fog outside the air filter, but as the hot H2O molecules are sucked in through the filter there is also a fog inside the air filter. The result is a more complete burn en though more water is dripping out of the tailpipe there are no soot particles to start plume condensation on. The higher vacuuum could come from A. a higher rpm - or B. the fog moisture closing a bit of the gap of the throttle valve.
as long as water is injected into the INTAKE, and not a vacuum line, or pcv..there is no oil contamination. Also in a water injection system make sure the crankcase vetilation system is in working order. Oil gets dirty because over time small amounts of gas and carbon pass the piston rings. So small amounts of vapor will do the same. But the ccv system will evaporate ANY water that comes into the system immediately as it will be the first element "boiled" off.
you might read about the water-gas shift in wikkipedia, and water injection has been used since wwII on aircraft to boost performance..and many many examples. Cars are not actually made for the consumer, but to produce the demand for oil the corporations wish to see.. Thanks for the simple demonstration.
There’s a couple of things going on, not everything coming out of that tube was steam, it was spitting hot liquid h2o as well. So we have steam, water and heat being added to the mix. The heat in both the steam and the water from what I have read lowers the temperature of the combustion chambers lowering the formation of NOx but at the same time the heat is much hotter than the air/fuel charge and heating this increases the gasification of the petrol before it arrives in the combustion chamber.
The idle vacuum could be increasing because the steam is heating up the gas (also helping to burn more and why you see less unburned gas at the exhaust) so that your piston rings get enough expansion from the extra combustion in order to seat properly. The steam could also be helping to seal the walls in the cylinder a bit to the rings, or it could be both working together. Hotter air/steam into the intake will increase gasoline vaporization/atomization leading to more power and cleaner emissions; but with steam it is still in a water vapor form and can still expand further. I make hydrogen fuel cells and the hotter they run the more gas, and water vapor, they pump out. Water vapor is highly excited/heated water that is easier to turn from H20 into HHO. Just add in the ignition explosion and the heat that comes with it and your steam could be partially turning into HHO and exploding, turning it right back in to water. Steam is a good way to clean off the carbon buildup as well in the valves and pistons. Keep up the exploratory work.
Now also the water enters the combustion chamber and on the power stroke when everything is getting hot “poof” turns to steam, a massive expansion. At 212 degrees Fahrenheit water expands approximately 1700 times it’s original volume, making this a significant reaction. Gasoline is formulated with lubricating properties offsetting cylinder washout and failure and keeps carbon from gunking the cylinder walls and spark plugs. Its like steam cleaning engine parts, there’s no better way to do it.
mint funny thing is ,like when a headgasket is weeping you get better performance forabit .but i expect needs to be mixed at a proper proportion tofuelasalloy pistons may faulter or bore inners pitted ,as you get when running a headgasket weeping engine.just suggestions melvin
I’m only guessing here but water injection has been round since ww2 steam makes sense for all the same reasons then as now .Steam has added benefit over water of more even distribution than a liquid . I’m experimenting on large 4 litre Aussie 6 cyl natuarally aspirated . I have noticed a progressive improvement in throttle response over weeks I put down to cleaning up carbon deposits. Also ecu timing map has shifted up 2 full maps , I put that down to knock sensor not pulling the timing back under load. As for cleaner exhaust I’m no chemistry expert but water will keep combustion peaks down at same time mean average pressures up, in layman’s terms longer burn more efficient burn. If you have access to a 5 gas analyser you may have same results an me NOX an HC down co2 up while o2 and AFR are stabilised and monitored and ECU controlled. I’ve got a ford 351 v8 in a classic when I get a chance I’m gunna Steam it too, can’t what to get data and compare it without bloody computer interfering may be better then again I will wait and see.
I would like to have seen the fuel trim readings with and without steam. PCV systems help improve efficiency/lower emissions by recycling vapours (including water) back into the intake, so I consider this an extension if not an enhancement to that. Another enhancement would be to increase fuel vapour flow through the EVAP system. Incorporated together, those would put a large kink in big oil’s and the car manufacturer’s profits. 100MPG+ cars would be the norm.
steam cool down the air/ mixture during compression, reducing pumping looses and then over-expand on power stroke and further cool the gases during exhaust stroke. That's why you get higher vacuum on idle and less "smoke" - vapors in fact - on exhaust. Engine load based variable volume improve the combustion preventing spark plugs wetting. Comparing to large water droplets injection the steam is already "energetically charged" so for less added energy still have expansion potential ..
Nice video. I view steam(water vapor) effectiveness being directly related to the REDOX or ORP of the water before it is vaporized. Some of your observations could be related to intake air density which can be difficult to manipulate throughout the summer/winter changes but IMHO, it is the state of the water before it vaporizes which makes a big difference.
@kremene fact that is made of hydrogen and oxygen doesnt mean that they are split. just think about it next time you boils water put a lighter to the steam and you will see that it doesnt burn. if you want to split those the water will need to be in the temperature of 3632F for just 3% of the water to split. into H, H2, O2, and OH. idk if thats worth the lost of air volume sense only 3% of the steam you put in will be likely to split.
not sure about the vacuum issue , but when splitting molecules any kid of stess helps break them down , steam injection is like electrolysis on the fly , first heat turns the water in to saturated steam , under 400F, some of the mol. give up its basic components , then the compression stroke break some more, then BANG electricity !!!!then more fire , heat and pressure , well DANG!!!! a lot of the molecules break apart to basic gas's I had a Nissan 1.9 liter up to 80 MPG and was not using a pump
Good theory but this engine has no Catalytic convert, No Lamda or 02 sensor either, I will have to buy a infra red thermometer to test the EGT as I don't know what is happening.
BEST COMMENTS : MICHEAL SZ injection of water steam helps actually cooling down the manifold/throttle body. Nothing more. Your fuel efficiency is better because you're concentrated more on 'watching the gauge' than on pushing it down on the throttle pedal ;) Anyway, I like people like you, because they're so fun to watch 'exploring' the things that the hi-school physics textbook would overrule at the very first glance ;) Keep on, it's always better than drugs :) kremene I see here only idiots.Steam is hot water and from Chemistry point of view is a mix of Hydrogen and oxygen.hydrogen is the most energetic element in UNIVERSE.When is combustion in oxygen results 143 Kj for every gram of Hydrogen.Gasoline offer only 44 Kj of energy.So Steam INCREASE POWER OF ENGINE AND HELPS TO IMPROVE BURNING OF GASOLINE.Thats why never smoke when steam is injected in manifold.chek on Google Patents Yuri Yatsenko US PAtent Application 021507 from 2007(September 20) Marius Moldoveanu steam cool down the air/ mixture during compression, reducing pumping looses and then over-expand on power stroke and further cool the gases during exhaust stroke. That's why you get higher vacuum on idle and less "smoke" - vapors in fact - on exhaust. Engine load based variable volume improve the combustion preventing spark plugs wetting. Comparing to large water droplets injection the steam is already "energetically charged" so for less added energy still have expansion potential .. Steven Palmore not sure about the vacuum issue , but when splitting molecules any kid of stess helps break them down , steam injection is like electrolysis on the fly , first heat turns the water in to saturated steam , under 400F, some of the mol. give up its basic components , then the compression stroke break some more, then BANG electricity !!!!then more fire , heat and pressure , well DANG!!!! a lot of the molecules break apart to basic gas's I had a Nissan 1.9 liter up to 80 MPG and was not using a pump Harlan Cassel The increase in vacuum you see is due to the cooling effect of the steam. The steam you are providing the engine is low quality (high water content) and the water then boils off in the engine removing heat. This causes the internal temperature to go down and increases vacuum. The steam also plays a part in combustion, and preheating fuel/air. This does not change AFRs (with the exception of the more efficient burn possible with the water.) john kruschke the steam does not burn, and takes up space in the combustion chamber, acting like nitrus-oxide does(increasing compression), also it steam cleans the parts in the pathway through the engine, and out of the tali pipe, furthermore as the steam is h20 in a mist(suspension in air), the carbon in the emissions of the engine drop out or the exhaust stream and are absorbed into the water vapour exiting the tailpipe(check for black coloured water in the tailpipe)-- more later, best wishes RT JaKaL Now also the water enters the combustion chamber and on the power stroke when everything is getting hot “poof” turns to steam, a massive expansion. At 212 degrees Fahrenheit water expands approximately 1700 times it’s original volume, making this a significant reaction. Gasoline is formulated with lubricating properties offsetting cylinder washout and failure and keeps carbon from gunking the cylinder walls and spark plugs. Its like steam cleaning engine parts, there’s no better way to do it. There’s a couple of things going on, not everything coming out of that tube was steam, it was spitting hot liquid h2o as well. So we have steam, water and heat being added to the mix. The heat in both the steam and the water from what I have read lowers the temperature of the combustion chambers lowering the formation of NOx but at the same time the heat is much hotter than the air/fuel charge and heating this increases the gasification of the petrol before it arrives in the combustion chamber. martin taylor Its been possible since ww2 when bombers and fighters used water/steam injection to boost engine power for takoffs and emergency boost situations. Water and steam injection are basically the same thing but just delivering the same thing to the workface in different states. Steaminjection would be the better way to go as it pre heats the induction charge ,therefor vapourising the fuel in the charge more thoroughly as well as expanding in the cylinder upon combustion causing better detonation. 1978smartass How much energy does it actually take to create the steam? I could image making steam from the exhaust heat could make an interesting difference. An interesting observation that I've made with my own vehicles is that they run better in rainy weather. But I don't know if they are more efficient. However, torque seems to increase. My vw polo 1999 also has an air inlet tube straight above the exhaust manifold so intake air is pre-heated by the exhaust manifold, for quicker startup engine heating Journalistification From eagle-reaserch dot kom internal combustion engines run/make power on steam not liquid gasoline or water etc.... liquid fuel it's turn to fuel vapor/ gas in the process before power stroke but not all liquid fuel makes it to a vapor/gas form this is "wasted fuel" then gets trapped and burn at the cat. converter. By adding a gas (water vapor like you show or gas vapor) in the intake tube or directly to intake manifold ur are assisting/ helping the engine to burn more efficient ....... Another side note*** the steam/water gas/vapor injected to the throtle body may affect in a negative way the rubber seals by soften them and wear them out, or the sensors too But i cannot verify this just something to think bout it, on contrary if you inject it directly into a port you drill or have in the manifold of the intake side you can avoid any bad side effects it may occur and still make more power / more efficient engine. Good luck! peter rotgans At lambda is 1 you need about 12 kg of air for 1kg of fuel so there is a lot of vapour in the air. When the mixture is compressed by either the compression stroke or during the detonation the heavier parts of the gasoline will condensate onto the colder parts of the combustion chamber due to the partial vapour pressure(e.g. Octane has a boiling point of 135C). This condensation is very brief, however it demixes the fuel and is the cause of unburnt hydrocarbons. Adding so much water that it condenses before the heavier parts is impossible by means of air humidity. But... when you make an aerosol with water (generally called fog) you will be able to make the air condensate before the heavier parts of gasoline. And even if the heavier parts condensate onto the water, the more volatile water will propel them faster back into the flame. When you put the tube on the air filter you see a fog outside the air filter, but as the hot H2O molecules are sucked in through the filter there is also a fog inside the air filter. The result is a more complete burn en though more water is dripping out of the tailpipe there are no soot particles to start plume condensation on. The higher vacuuum could come from A. a higher rpm - or B. the fog moisture closing a bit of the gap of the throttle valve.
None have mentioned my concern for the motor, being that the heavy steam you are putting in there with the high water content is not any form of a lubricant and I feel that may eventually shorten the life of the engine. It would be better to inject what aboard ships is called ' live' steam, and is actually invisible and extremely hot. The steam injected WWII fighters were for war, and not expected to live a long life, although I've not researched for how many hours they did.
Live steam? That's a slang term. My best guess you're talking about superheated steam. Invisible steam? Pretty sure that just means dry steam that's been put thru a moisture separator. If I remember right, the visible fog is a result of tiny liquid water droplets being dragged thru along with the vapor. Again, remedied by a moisture separator and assisted with superheated process and proper insulation to prevent heat loss.
The explanations must be at the electrochemical, level. Highly pressurized gasses inside the combustion chamber at the highest temperatures would highly energize molecules that crush and recrush against one another at the highest speeds inside the combustion chamber at the moment of sparking up the ignition ( or exploding of the energized molecules of steam and gasoline). The molecules are probably assembled and disassembled instantly, oxygen from the steam and hydrogen from the gasoline,plus loose hydrogens could contribute to a fullest, cleanest, without much traces of smoke left to be expelled thru the exhaust.
Heard some rumours about the steam also "cools" the system down even tho it's "hot" thus giving you oportunity to cream out more power without the engine running hotter?
The increase in vacuum you see is due to the cooling effect of the steam. The steam you are providing the engine is low quality (high water content) and the water then boils off in the engine removing heat. This causes the internal temperature to go down and increases vacuum. The steam also plays a part in combustion, and preheating fuel/air. This does not change AFRs (with the exception of the more efficient burn possible with the water.)
I have been experimenting with a new coil heater on the down pipe to make true Superheated Dry Steam @ 200+ Degress Celsius with less than 5% water, this should not condense into water or mist in the intake, from all the patents I have read this is better for the engine? this is all new to me.
Could steam be made by a radiator installed downstream from the CAT in the exhaust system pre-heated water and then sent to a jacket around the exhaust manifold?
idk if it's steam cracking the fuel, the octane booster effect of steam or if it's some cooling effect of the steam. in any case, I will build a similar system for my syphilitic Hyundai Accent to see if I can run 'hot water induction' (fancy name for boiling water on the exh. manifold then inducing that to the engine intake) to make it perform slightly better (already sevelely damaged engine components will no longer have to overcome the hurdle of poor fuel quality to achieve 30hp) steam or water (or wm50) effectively increases the charge octane equivalency number, which for a stoich mixture is usually poorer than the american AKI figure for the fuel in question.
the steam is leaning out the air/fuel mixture. Most vehicles run with a fuel rich mixture by default to make sure they wont ping/detonate/pre-combust the fuel. Many now have sensors to detect ping/knock (a microphone basically) and adjust the engine timing accordingly but even that is not perfect. Steam/water/HHO injection can help in many cases when tested and done right. Without proper care its pointless though. Catilytic converters also increase fuel mixture..
I think what you have done is set the ECU's programmable memory to run on watery fuel. The change in the idle is due to the computer trying to compensate for the mixture. I would also be careful not to warp your pistons.
Another side note*** the steam/water gas/vapor injected to the throtle body may affect in a negative way the rubber seals by soften them and wear them out, or the sensors too But i cannot verify this just something to think bout it, on contrary if you inject it directly into a port you drill or have in the manifold of the intake side you can avoid any bad side effects it may occur and still make more power / more efficient engine. Good luck!
The car thinks it is getting air but it is actually getting air and steam. The steam takes a great portion of air out of the air to fuel ratio equation and replaces it with water. Water doesn't burn. Less air = richer air fuel ratio = more power and efficiency. But it is bad for the emissions system. The engine is cleaned because water is an excellent solvent, especially when it is hot.
Very interesting. I have no idea myself, being an dumbass when it comes to anything wven close to engines, but I've posted this vid on a SAAB forum in Sweden where many pro's reside. Hopefully someone can answer and discuss it more. If they don't answer themselves I'll get back.
Get exhausted wasted fuel because your air sensor senses higher pressure so the ecu adds more fuel to the mix? RPMs rise faster due to an increase in pressure making it seem kind of like ram air in a moving vehicle...
I met a guy who rigged his vehicle with something like this. He claimed better economy, cleaner engine exhaust gasses etc. Im not sure of the long term effects this had on the engine- Emulsification of the engine oil in the with condensation trapped in the sump when exhaust gases and steam pass the rings. -This wouldn't be a problem in a Wankel Rotary engine.
It's more efficient, when you're under vacuum, to replace oxygen with another inert gas. When the inert gas (vapor) is water, its non-linear solubility in air, and high specific heat, make it even more effective. Under boost, it's not significantly better, or worse, than traditional water injection.
Adding water vapour causes complete combustion. There cannot be total combustion without water. Yes, we were all taught in school that you must have fuel and oxygen for combustion but a living cell does it better than any engine because it uses the third necessary ingredient - WATER!!! There you have it Watson, FUEL + OXYGEN + WATER equals fait accompli - another trinity of nature. You could take a chance and drive the car to see if fuel economy increases.
Great video! The amount of steam you are using is probably not enough to cool the Catalytic convertor enough to stop it from working. To test this, just measure the temperature on the CAT and see if it is greater that 600 degrees F. If it is, the CAT is fine. GREAT JOB!
Its been possible since ww2 when bombers and fighters used water/steam injection to boost engine power for takoffs and emergency boost situations. Water and steam injection are basically the same thing but just delivering the same thing to the workface in different states. Steaminjection would be the better way to go as it pre heats the induction charge ,therefor vapourising the fuel in the charge more thoroughly as well as expanding in the cylinder upon combustion causing better detonation.
Mabey the carbon is being mixed with water vapor and exhausted as a part liquid bringing it the the Earth's surface faster eliminating more carbon in the atmosphere. Don't even know if it's possible but thought of it for some reason
Cool video. As for your exhaust question here is my interpretation. When you are injecting the steam you saw less exhaust right? This means you are seeing less water condensing out the exhaust pipe. I think this is because adding the steam will considerably lower your exhaust gas temperature (the excess water will absorb the heat). Even though there is more water coming out of the engine, it is already condensing inside your exhaust pipes by the time it exits into the air. Imagine lowering the temperature of your steamer, you will see less visible condensation. Once I can afford a new car, I'm excited to design my own intake humidifying system!
Just came across this video again.... This video makes me see myself in the mirror. I would paid to see this video Live in the street. Btw the first song get's you there : An ending : Brian Eno . I am downloading it actually...
when you are connecting the hose directly to the intake, are you doing it before the throttle plate or after. Because i think you are connecting it before the plate and unless you open the throttle, you will not see any smoke at the exhaust. That's what i think. Good Luck
If you have more power in steam obviously it will develop forward push to piston down to develop extra power like in six stroke engine. pls check google six stroke.
A) because water is not a lubricant (the reason WW2 pilots only used it intermittently B) Rust (worse than your present amount on pipes and mufflers) C) Carbon cleaning. A certain amount of carbon is beneficial, like higher compression, you would lose. See Scotty Kilmer's videos.
From eagle-reaserch dot kom internal combustion engines run/make power on steam not liquid gasoline or water etc.... liquid fuel it's turn to fuel vapor/ gas in the process before power stroke but not all liquid fuel makes it to a vapor/gas form this is "wasted fuel" then gets trapped and burn at the cat. converter. By adding a gas (water vapor like you show or gas vapor) in the intake tube or directly to intake manifold ur are assisting/ helping the engine to burn more efficient .......
The guy I met also tried to plumb some of the exhaust gases back through the carb... as he believed something was happening to the exhaust gases and he thought he could recycle something... Don't know how successful he was.
Comments are funny so we used to have steam engine vehicles yes using coal etc to boil water and create steam and pressure to move big bloody engines.. So we still for our electric power use steam even with nuclear now I wonder why that would be.. Adding steam to the combustion just like water which turns to steam expands, moving the piston and therefore will use less fuel as it is using that as a fuel source, no not burning it. I'm going to have to make something up been thinking about it long enough simple enough.. Another way use ultrasonic transducers for cold fog, like humidifier and you will benefit from cooling the charge.. The mist can be put in at the air filter in theory before the turbo, that should also get some cooling effect and be fine enough to not attack the blades. Take your car out on a foggy morning when plenty of dew is about.
Why bother with the steam generator? The inlet manifold vacuum will lower the temperature and condense the steam into water. Would it not improve the efficiency by just injecting water?
Isn't it because water is made of hydrogen and oxygen and perhaps when it enters the combustion chamber, it is breaking into these and igniting? Or perhaps it is somehow allowing the gasoline to burn more completely or more quickly at once better explosion. Take care
Dear friend.Here is how much I know thats all.Of course engine will run but it will decrease quick acceleration.The power will obviously low because the suction intake will have less fuel quantity fuel air ratio will not be adequate.So though engine runs the power will be low. About the exhaust due to more vapor exhaust the exhaust particulars are also less.Also particulars are stuck in silencer box and pipe sides due to less heat and by pure exhaust all are pushed out by heat..
ok you rpm are icrese . but thats becose you put more steem than its need so the computer makes a rich mix . yes steem those work but the amout of steem n the temperture of the steem are hurt to control . dont take me wrong i love your video but you have to split emocions from real since
Ok, the vacuum increases is probably due to valves sealing better with steam and water. The exhaust steam, I do not know. Did you get better MPG with steam? I would bet...not. There are ways to use the steam power...
I believe the reason is that the ideal gas/air mixture for an engine is so lean that it is too hot and causes damage. The way cars get around that is by using extra gas, that isn't even burned, but just being in the combustion chamber changing from liquid to vapor gives additional cooling.
Once the steam is going into the engine, that provides a significant increase in cooling, and so the ECU can lean out the fuel mixture more towards the ideal ratio and you get a complete combustion instead of running rich, giving out only water and CO2 which are clear.
In the way you said, the vapor helps with the cooling and this results in more air inside the cilinder improvising the combustion. A better way to the same is spraying cold water on the intake. not to forget the corrosion of the metal.
the steam does not burn, and takes up space in the combustion chamber, acting like nitrus-oxide does(increasing compression), also it steam cleans the parts in the pathway through the engine, and out of the tali pipe, furthermore as the steam is h20 in a mist(suspension in air), the carbon in the emissions of the engine drop out or the exhaust stream and are absorbed into the water vapour exiting the tailpipe(check for black coloured water in the tailpipe)-- more later, best wishes
Congratulations to all!. Finally someone has the gutsy initiative and inventiveness to chase after a better world. Tomorrow, or after , who minds when, but this work and opinions will resonate inside the guts of our engines, and that is what counts.
Hello everybody! I know this is an old video, but considering there are almost no videos about steam injection in internal combustion engines, I shall add my comment here: I believe that this system works and I will try to install it in one of my cars in some near or distant future, but I do believe that even though this is a steam injection system it behaves like a water injection, and I shall explain why: when steam is injected into the intake area, it is comprised of very fine water vapor particles that are about 100 deg. Celsius in temperature. As they leave the steam tube and enter the intake of the vehicle they get in contact with high speed air molecules that are about 20-30 deg Celsius (atmospheric temperature) and get cooled to below 100 deg Celsius turning back into water. And I am CERTAIN they get cooled down, because the steam is comprised of very fine particles of vapor which have tiny thermal inertia. There is plenty of time for the vapor to cool and turn down into liquid when considering the length of the intake tract/manifold. Thus, by the time they enter the engine they are water molecules, not steam and they behave like water injection. But do not get me wrong, i strongly believe that this is the superior system because steam injection is much simple and water atomization is perfect (superior to any misting nozzle one might find in a water injection setup).
Good comment. I am working on a pressure pump misting system for my diesel golf. I appreciate that the fineness of the spray is vitally important. But steam might be a better way to go because it should be ultra fine. More heat though! But maybe that should not be such an issue. Umm :)
@@TheHeartCharmer Hy, thanks for the interest, i actually bench-tested my steam injection prototype this week. It will go into my 1999 VW Lupo, gasoline-powered. I did not prepare any videos for YT, yet, but I do have some footage. If you are interested in seeing it and sharing some information I invite you to add me as a friend on Facebook. My ID is "Laurentiu Ic" ( Ic with Capital " i " , not L ) and my avatar is a cartoon of sort, a stylized version of a vintage logo, with blue, white and black.
Is there any risk of Gunk buildup in the combustion chamber area due to long-term water vapor or steam injection? I so where a guy tried it and had green gunk in the engine after 80,000 miles.
So, what's happening here is that the hot H2O gas(steam) being injected into the combustion chamber has a cooling affect through evaporation and the outcome is cooler exhaust and thus a lower temp. deferential between the outside air and the exhaust. So less condensation also the steam burns into Hydrogen and Oxygen. The Oxygen (like Oxy Clean) acts as a scrubber for the exhaust. Take off your heads and you will see that the top of your cylinders will be spotless due to the Steam/Oxygen.
This is a simple mas flow situation. The moist warm air weighs more. The turbo can more efficiently pump the air and thus the gain in boost. Any condensate in the air is expanded during the combustion at 1600 to one using some of the additional heat energy that would normally be lost as well. I have had a vehicle that ran on upto 50% injected water. This also works by better utilizing the wasted heat energy. These type of systems are used on high performance airplane engines.
Brian
The increase in performance is from the water turning to steam and rapidly expanding in the combustion chamber requiring less fuel to create the same volume of expanding gases to drive the power stroke. This is improves torque.
The decrease in manifold vacuum is from the steam filling the inlet manifold and increasing the manifold pressure.
The turbo spools quicker because of the increased volume of exhaust gasses exiting the combustion chamber.
For 1 year I am cleaning internally my engine with a steam cleaner before oil change. It works fine.I use no chemicals. It is not advisable to run your engine with water because of the rust that will form aftertime.
This works because air is water. Steam or vaporsied water = denser air. More dense the air = less fuel for combustion.
We use steam in our flares at work and it clears up the smoke.. most of the refineries use steam on flare stacks if steam is available
At lambda is 1 you need about 12 kg of air for 1kg of fuel so there is a lot of vapour in the air. When the mixture is compressed by either the compression stroke or during the detonation the heavier parts of the gasoline will condensate onto the colder parts of the combustion chamber due to the partial vapour pressure(e.g. Octane has a boiling point of 135C). This condensation is very brief, however it demixes the fuel and is the cause of unburnt hydrocarbons.
Adding so much water that it condenses before the heavier parts is impossible by means of air humidity. But... when you make an aerosol with water (generally called fog) you will be able to make the air condensate before the heavier parts of gasoline. And even if the heavier parts condensate onto the water, the more volatile water will propel them faster back into the flame.
When you put the tube on the air filter you see a fog outside the air filter, but as the hot H2O molecules are sucked in through the filter there is also a fog inside the air filter.
The result is a more complete burn en though more water is dripping out of the tailpipe there are no soot particles to start plume condensation on.
The higher vacuuum could come from A. a higher rpm - or B. the fog moisture closing a bit of the gap of the throttle valve.
as long as water is injected into the INTAKE, and not a vacuum line, or pcv..there is no oil contamination. Also in a water injection system make sure the crankcase vetilation system is in working order. Oil gets dirty because over time small amounts of gas and carbon pass the piston rings. So small amounts of vapor will do the same. But the ccv system will evaporate ANY water that comes into the system immediately as it will be the first element "boiled" off.
you might read about the water-gas shift in wikkipedia, and water injection has been used since wwII on aircraft to boost performance..and many many examples.
Cars are not actually made for the consumer, but to produce the demand for oil the corporations wish to see..
Thanks for the simple demonstration.
There’s a couple of things going on, not everything coming out of that tube was steam, it was spitting hot liquid h2o as well. So we have steam, water and heat being added to the mix. The heat in both the steam and the water from what I have read lowers the temperature of the combustion chambers lowering the formation of NOx but at the same time the heat is much hotter than the air/fuel charge and heating this increases the gasification of the petrol before it arrives in the combustion chamber.
@burmkilla actually one of the normal products of combustion is water, so it wouldnt be as bad as you think as far as corrosion inside the cylinder.
The idle vacuum could be increasing because the steam is heating up the gas (also helping to burn more and why you see less unburned gas at the exhaust) so that your piston rings get enough expansion from the extra combustion in order to seat properly. The steam could also be helping to seal the walls in the cylinder a bit to the rings, or it could be both working together. Hotter air/steam into the intake will increase gasoline vaporization/atomization leading to more power and cleaner emissions; but with steam it is still in a water vapor form and can still expand further. I make hydrogen fuel cells and the hotter they run the more gas, and water vapor, they pump out. Water vapor is highly excited/heated water that is easier to turn from H20 into HHO. Just add in the ignition explosion and the heat that comes with it and your steam could be partially turning into HHO and exploding, turning it right back in to water. Steam is a good way to clean off the carbon buildup as well in the valves and pistons. Keep up the exploratory work.
Now also the water enters the combustion chamber and on the power stroke when everything is getting hot “poof” turns to steam, a massive expansion. At 212 degrees Fahrenheit water expands approximately 1700 times it’s original volume, making this a significant reaction. Gasoline is formulated with lubricating properties offsetting cylinder washout and failure and keeps carbon from gunking the cylinder walls and spark plugs. Its like steam cleaning engine parts, there’s no better way to do it.
mint funny thing is ,like when a headgasket is weeping you get better performance forabit .but i expect needs to be mixed at a proper proportion tofuelasalloy pistons may faulter or bore inners pitted ,as you get when running a headgasket weeping engine.just suggestions melvin
I’m only guessing here but water injection has been round since ww2 steam makes sense for all the same reasons then as now .Steam has added benefit over water of more even distribution than a liquid . I’m experimenting on large 4 litre Aussie 6 cyl natuarally aspirated . I have noticed a progressive improvement in throttle response over weeks I put down to cleaning up carbon deposits. Also ecu timing map has shifted up 2 full maps , I put that down to knock sensor not pulling the timing back under load. As for cleaner exhaust I’m no chemistry expert but water will keep combustion peaks down at same time mean average pressures up, in layman’s terms longer burn more efficient burn. If you have access to a 5 gas analyser you may have same results an me NOX an HC down co2 up while o2 and AFR are stabilised and monitored and ECU controlled.
I’ve got a ford 351 v8 in a classic when I get a chance I’m gunna Steam it too, can’t what to get data and compare it without bloody computer interfering may be better then again I will wait and see.
Also try hydrogen peroxide in your cold steam generator. It is commonly added to those so it won't hurt your cold mister
I would like to have seen the fuel trim readings with and without steam.
PCV systems help improve efficiency/lower emissions by recycling vapours (including water) back into the intake, so I consider this an extension if not an enhancement to that. Another enhancement would be to increase fuel vapour flow through the EVAP system. Incorporated together, those would put a large kink in big oil’s and the car manufacturer’s profits. 100MPG+ cars would be the norm.
steam cool down the air/ mixture during compression, reducing pumping looses and then over-expand on power stroke and further cool the gases during exhaust stroke. That's why you get higher vacuum on idle and less "smoke" - vapors in fact - on exhaust. Engine load based variable volume improve the combustion preventing spark plugs wetting. Comparing to large water droplets injection the steam is already "energetically charged" so for less added energy still have expansion potential ..
Nice video. I view steam(water vapor) effectiveness being directly related to the REDOX or ORP of the water before it is vaporized. Some of your observations could be related to intake air density which can be difficult to manipulate throughout the summer/winter changes but IMHO, it is the state of the water before it vaporizes which makes a big difference.
@kremene
fact that is made of hydrogen and oxygen doesnt mean that they are split. just think about it next time you boils water put a lighter to the steam and you will see that it doesnt burn.
if you want to split those the water will need to be in the temperature of 3632F for just 3% of the water to split. into H, H2, O2, and OH. idk if thats worth the lost of air volume sense only 3% of the steam you put in will be likely to split.
not sure about the vacuum issue , but when splitting molecules any kid of stess helps break them down , steam injection is like electrolysis on the fly , first heat turns the water in to saturated steam , under 400F, some of the mol. give up its basic components , then the compression stroke break some more, then BANG electricity !!!!then more fire , heat and pressure , well DANG!!!! a lot of the molecules break apart to basic gas's I had a Nissan 1.9 liter up to 80 MPG and was not using a pump
I think the steam particles are harder to pull through the air filter which is causing the vacuum to increase.
Nope, he was direct injecting thru only a small spot on a high flow type filter. Wouldn't make a difference you could see.
Could be true. Certainly to some degree anyway.
Good theory but this engine has no Catalytic convert, No Lamda or 02 sensor either, I will have to buy a infra red thermometer to test the EGT as I don't know what is happening.
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MICHEAL SZ
injection of water steam helps actually cooling down the manifold/throttle body. Nothing more. Your fuel efficiency is better because you're concentrated more on 'watching the gauge' than on pushing it down on the throttle pedal ;) Anyway, I like people like you, because they're so fun to watch 'exploring' the things that the hi-school physics textbook would overrule at the very first glance ;) Keep on, it's always better than drugs :)
kremene
I see here only idiots.Steam is hot water and from Chemistry point of view is a mix of Hydrogen and oxygen.hydrogen is the most energetic element in UNIVERSE.When is combustion in oxygen results 143 Kj for every gram of Hydrogen.Gasoline offer only 44 Kj of energy.So Steam INCREASE POWER OF ENGINE AND HELPS TO IMPROVE BURNING OF GASOLINE.Thats why never smoke when steam is injected in manifold.chek on Google Patents Yuri Yatsenko US PAtent Application 021507 from 2007(September 20)
Marius Moldoveanu
steam cool down the air/ mixture during compression, reducing pumping looses and then over-expand on power stroke and further cool the gases during exhaust stroke. That's why you get higher vacuum on idle and less "smoke" - vapors in fact - on exhaust. Engine load based variable volume improve the combustion preventing spark plugs wetting. Comparing to large water droplets injection the steam is already "energetically charged" so for less added energy still have expansion potential ..
Steven Palmore
not sure about the vacuum issue , but when splitting molecules any kid of stess helps break them down , steam injection is like electrolysis on the fly , first heat turns the water in to saturated steam , under 400F, some of the mol. give up its basic components , then the compression stroke break some more, then BANG electricity !!!!then more fire , heat and pressure , well DANG!!!! a lot of the molecules break apart to basic gas's I had a Nissan 1.9 liter up to 80 MPG and was not using a pump
Harlan Cassel
The increase in vacuum you see is due to the cooling effect of the steam. The steam you are providing the engine is low quality (high water content) and the water then boils off in the engine removing heat. This causes the internal temperature to go down and increases vacuum. The steam also plays a part in combustion, and preheating fuel/air. This does not change AFRs (with the exception of the more efficient burn possible with the water.)
john kruschke
the steam does not burn, and takes up space in the combustion chamber, acting like nitrus-oxide does(increasing compression), also it steam cleans the parts in the pathway through the engine, and out of the tali pipe, furthermore as the steam is h20 in a mist(suspension in air), the carbon in the emissions of the engine drop out or the exhaust stream and are absorbed into the water vapour exiting the tailpipe(check for black coloured water in the tailpipe)-- more later, best wishes
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Now also the water enters the combustion chamber and on the power stroke when everything is getting hot “poof” turns to steam, a massive expansion. At 212 degrees Fahrenheit water expands approximately 1700 times it’s original volume, making this a significant reaction. Gasoline is formulated with lubricating properties offsetting cylinder washout and failure and keeps carbon from gunking the cylinder walls and spark plugs. Its like steam cleaning engine parts, there’s no better way to do it.
There’s a couple of things going on, not everything coming out of that tube was steam, it was spitting hot liquid h2o as well. So we have steam, water and heat being added to the mix. The heat in both the steam and the water from what I have read lowers the temperature of the combustion chambers lowering the formation of NOx but at the same time the heat is much hotter than the air/fuel charge and heating this increases the gasification of the petrol before it arrives in the combustion chamber.
martin taylor
Its been possible since ww2 when bombers and fighters used water/steam injection to boost engine power for takoffs and emergency boost situations. Water and steam injection are basically the same thing but just delivering the same thing to the workface in different states. Steaminjection would be the better way to go as it pre heats the induction charge ,therefor vapourising the fuel in the charge more thoroughly as well as expanding in the cylinder upon combustion causing better detonation.
1978smartass
How much energy does it actually take to create the steam? I could image making steam from the exhaust heat could make an interesting difference. An interesting observation that I've made with my own vehicles is that they run better in rainy weather. But I don't know if they are more efficient. However, torque seems to increase. My vw polo 1999 also has an air inlet tube straight above the exhaust manifold so intake air is pre-heated by the exhaust manifold, for quicker startup engine heating
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From eagle-reaserch dot kom internal combustion engines run/make power on steam not liquid gasoline or water etc.... liquid fuel it's turn to fuel vapor/ gas in the process before power stroke but not all liquid fuel makes it to a vapor/gas form this is "wasted fuel" then gets trapped and burn at the cat. converter. By adding a gas (water vapor like you show or gas vapor) in the intake tube or directly to intake manifold ur are assisting/ helping the engine to burn more efficient .......
Another side note*** the steam/water gas/vapor injected to the throtle body may affect in a negative way the rubber seals by soften them and wear them out, or the sensors too But i cannot verify this just something to think bout it, on contrary if you inject it directly into a port you drill or have in the manifold of the intake side you can avoid any bad side effects it may occur and still make more power / more efficient engine. Good luck!
peter rotgans
At lambda is 1 you need about 12 kg of air for 1kg of fuel so there is a lot of vapour in the air. When the mixture is compressed by either the compression stroke or during the detonation the heavier parts of the gasoline will condensate onto the colder parts of the combustion chamber due to the partial vapour pressure(e.g. Octane has a boiling point of 135C). This condensation is very brief, however it demixes the fuel and is the cause of unburnt hydrocarbons.
Adding so much water that it condenses before the heavier parts is impossible by means of air humidity. But... when you make an aerosol with water (generally called fog) you will be able to make the air condensate before the heavier parts of gasoline. And even if the heavier parts condensate onto the water, the more volatile water will propel them faster back into the flame.
When you put the tube on the air filter you see a fog outside the air filter, but as the hot H2O molecules are sucked in through the filter there is also a fog inside the air filter.
The result is a more complete burn en though more water is dripping out of the tailpipe there are no soot particles to start plume condensation on.
The higher vacuuum could come from A. a higher rpm - or B. the fog moisture closing a bit of the gap of the throttle valve.
Maybe the steam simply seals the rings a bit better causing slightly higher vacuum as well as higher compression ???
I want to know if you can advance timing more when on steam.
None have mentioned my concern for the motor, being that the heavy steam you are putting in there with the high water content is not any form of a lubricant and I feel that may eventually shorten the life of the engine. It would be better to inject what aboard ships is called ' live' steam, and is actually invisible and extremely hot.
The steam injected WWII fighters were for war, and not expected to live a long life, although I've not researched for how many hours they did.
Live steam? That's a slang term. My best guess you're talking about superheated steam. Invisible steam? Pretty sure that just means dry steam that's been put thru a moisture separator. If I remember right, the visible fog is a result of tiny liquid water droplets being dragged thru along with the vapor. Again, remedied by a moisture separator and assisted with superheated process and proper insulation to prevent heat loss.
Get rid of the vacuum guage and use an absolute pressure gauge, a manifold pressure gauge, and see what you get.
The explanations must be at the electrochemical, level. Highly pressurized gasses inside the combustion chamber at the highest temperatures would highly energize molecules that crush and recrush against one another at the highest speeds inside the combustion chamber at the moment of sparking up the ignition ( or exploding of the energized molecules of steam and gasoline). The molecules are probably assembled and disassembled instantly, oxygen from the steam and hydrogen from the gasoline,plus loose hydrogens could contribute to a fullest, cleanest, without much traces of smoke left to be expelled thru the exhaust.
MMmm Interesting!!!! I'm going to read a bit about this!! Thanks for posting the video =]
Heard some rumours about the steam also "cools" the system down even tho it's "hot" thus giving you oportunity to cream out more power without the engine running hotter?
The increase in vacuum you see is due to the cooling effect of the steam. The steam you are providing the engine is low quality (high water content) and the water then boils off in the engine removing heat. This causes the internal temperature to go down and increases vacuum. The steam also plays a part in combustion, and preheating fuel/air. This does not change AFRs (with the exception of the more efficient burn possible with the water.)
I have been experimenting with a new coil heater on the down pipe to make true Superheated Dry Steam @ 200+ Degress Celsius with less than 5% water, this should not condense into water or mist in the intake, from all the patents I have read this is better for the engine? this is all new to me.
Could steam be made by a radiator installed downstream from the CAT in the exhaust system pre-heated water and then sent to a jacket around the exhaust manifold?
idk if it's steam cracking the fuel, the octane booster effect of steam or if it's some cooling effect of the steam.
in any case, I will build a similar system for my syphilitic Hyundai Accent to see if I can run 'hot water induction' (fancy name for boiling water on the exh. manifold then inducing that to the engine intake) to make it perform slightly better (already sevelely damaged engine components will no longer have to overcome the hurdle of poor fuel quality to achieve 30hp)
steam or water (or wm50) effectively increases the charge octane equivalency number, which for a stoich mixture is usually poorer than the american AKI figure for the fuel in question.
the steam is leaning out the air/fuel mixture.
Most vehicles run with a fuel rich mixture by default to make sure they wont ping/detonate/pre-combust the fuel. Many now have sensors to detect ping/knock (a microphone basically) and adjust the engine timing accordingly but even that is not perfect.
Steam/water/HHO injection can help in many cases when tested and done right. Without proper care its pointless though.
Catilytic converters also increase fuel mixture..
I can't hear anything you are saying over that rediculus music. Bummer, because this is a very cool thing.
if the water was able to even touch the oil that would mean you have a bad engine and there would also be gasoline in your oil
I think what you have done is set the ECU's programmable memory to run on watery fuel. The change in the idle is due to the computer trying to compensate for the mixture. I would also be careful not to warp your pistons.
Another side note*** the steam/water gas/vapor injected to the throtle body may affect in a negative way the rubber seals by soften them and wear them out, or the sensors too But i cannot verify this just something to think bout it, on contrary if you inject it directly into a port you drill or have in the manifold of the intake side you can avoid any bad side effects it may occur and still make more power / more efficient engine. Good luck!
The car thinks it is getting air but it is actually getting air and steam. The steam takes a great portion of air out of the air to fuel ratio equation and replaces it with water. Water doesn't burn. Less air = richer air fuel ratio = more power and efficiency. But it is bad for the emissions system. The engine is cleaned because water is an excellent solvent, especially when it is hot.
Very interesting. I have no idea myself, being an dumbass when it comes to anything wven close to engines, but I've posted this vid on a SAAB forum in Sweden where many pro's reside.
Hopefully someone can answer and discuss it more. If they don't answer themselves I'll get back.
The reading are 18 and 19 ......... the vacuum increase means the burning is more completed for some reason
Get exhausted wasted fuel because your air sensor senses higher pressure so the ecu adds more fuel to the mix? RPMs rise faster due to an increase in pressure making it seem kind of like ram air in a moving vehicle...
I met a guy who rigged his vehicle with something like this. He claimed better economy, cleaner engine exhaust gasses etc. Im not sure of the long term effects this had on the engine- Emulsification of the engine oil in the with condensation trapped in the sump when exhaust gases and steam pass the rings. -This wouldn't be a problem in a Wankel Rotary engine.
does youre boost go up when you inject steam in the throtle body or just in the air filter?
It's more efficient, when you're under vacuum, to replace oxygen with another inert gas. When the inert gas (vapor) is water, its non-linear solubility in air, and high specific heat, make it even more effective.
Under boost, it's not significantly better, or worse, than traditional water injection.
Adding water vapour causes complete combustion. There cannot be total combustion without water. Yes, we were all taught in school that you must have fuel and oxygen for combustion but a living cell does it better than any engine because it uses the third necessary ingredient - WATER!!! There you have it Watson, FUEL + OXYGEN + WATER equals fait accompli - another trinity of nature. You could take a chance and drive the car to see if fuel economy increases.
Great video! The amount of steam you are using is probably not enough to cool the Catalytic convertor enough to stop it from working. To test this, just measure the temperature on the CAT and see if it is greater that 600 degrees F. If it is, the CAT is fine. GREAT JOB!
Its been possible since ww2 when bombers and fighters used water/steam injection to boost engine power for takoffs and emergency boost situations. Water and steam injection are basically the same thing but just delivering the same thing to the workface in different states.
Steaminjection would be the better way to go as it pre heats the induction charge ,therefor vapourising the fuel in the charge more thoroughly as well as expanding in the cylinder upon combustion causing better detonation.
And less lubrication, which I believe is why it isn't used.
Mabey the carbon is being mixed with water vapor and exhausted as a part liquid bringing it the the Earth's surface faster eliminating more carbon in the atmosphere. Don't even know if it's possible but thought of it for some reason
Whats the song in the background?
Cool video. As for your exhaust question here is my interpretation. When you are injecting the steam you saw less exhaust right? This means you are seeing less water condensing out the exhaust pipe. I think this is because adding the steam will considerably lower your exhaust gas temperature (the excess water will absorb the heat). Even though there is more water coming out of the engine, it is already condensing inside your exhaust pipes by the time it exits into the air. Imagine lowering the temperature of your steamer, you will see less visible condensation. Once I can afford a new car, I'm excited to design my own intake humidifying system!
GmanFTW i have a mist maker installed in my car.
Cold air mist. Got less stinky out of my pipe and lost a more torque
Good demonstration
Everything aside, that is simply a beautiful Saab
Now show me the car performing or on a dyno, you show us no more than a car idling !!
Hi SwadowWorks. Have you made something that you can use while driving?
Just came across this video again.... This video makes me see myself in the mirror. I would paid to see this video Live in the street. Btw the first song get's you there : An ending : Brian Eno . I am downloading it actually...
when you are connecting the hose directly to the intake, are you doing it before the throttle plate or after. Because i think you are connecting it before the plate and unless you open the throttle, you will not see any smoke at the exhaust.
That's what i think.
Good Luck
If you have more power in steam obviously it will develop forward push to piston down to develop extra power like in six stroke engine.
pls check google six stroke.
You need a lesson on vacuum gauges and manifold pressure gauges.
Great music! Tell me more about it.
this bloke is spot on
WHY THE F ARE WE NOT ALL RUNNING A H20 TANK
A) because water is not a lubricant (the reason WW2 pilots only used it intermittently
B) Rust (worse than your present amount on pipes and mufflers)
C) Carbon cleaning. A certain amount of carbon is beneficial, like higher compression, you would lose.
See Scotty Kilmer's videos.
From eagle-reaserch dot kom internal combustion engines run/make power on steam not liquid gasoline or water etc.... liquid fuel it's turn to fuel vapor/ gas in the process before power stroke but not all liquid fuel makes it to a vapor/gas form this is "wasted fuel" then gets trapped and burn at the cat. converter. By adding a gas (water vapor like you show or gas vapor) in the intake tube or directly to intake manifold ur are assisting/ helping the engine to burn more efficient .......
The movie is back;)
It was gone for a while
The guy I met also tried to plumb some of the exhaust gases back through the carb... as he believed something was happening to the exhaust gases and he thought he could recycle something... Don't know how successful he was.
That would be an egr which many like to remove including me
I have this saab sadly it's been left on a drive and is in a very poor state
Comments are funny so we used to have steam engine vehicles yes using coal etc to boil water and create steam and pressure to move big bloody engines..
So we still for our electric power use steam even with nuclear now I wonder why that would be..
Adding steam to the combustion just like water which turns to steam expands, moving the piston and therefore will use less fuel as it is using that as a fuel source, no not burning it.
I'm going to have to make something up been thinking about it long enough simple enough..
Another way use ultrasonic transducers for cold fog, like humidifier and you will benefit from cooling the charge..
The mist can be put in at the air filter in theory before the turbo, that should also get some cooling effect and be fine enough to not attack the blades.
Take your car out on a foggy morning when plenty of dew is about.
you can't see it but you can feel it ' steam= higher compretion
Why bother with the steam generator?
The inlet manifold vacuum will lower the temperature and condense the steam into water.
Would it not improve the efficiency by just injecting water?
Isn't it because water is made of hydrogen and oxygen and perhaps when it enters the combustion chamber, it is breaking into these and igniting? Or perhaps it is somehow allowing the gasoline to burn more completely or more quickly at once better explosion.
Take care
Get exhausted wasted fuel because your air sensor senses higher pressure so it adds more fuel to the mix?
hmm..
how long the electronic injection would do it?
that seems to be possible, but not good for the engine...
Does it work on diesels?
Dear friend.Here is how much I know thats all.Of course engine will run but it will decrease quick acceleration.The power will obviously low because the suction intake will have less fuel quantity fuel air ratio will not be adequate.So though engine runs the power will be low.
About the exhaust due to more vapor exhaust the exhaust particulars are also less.Also particulars are stuck in silencer box and pipe sides due to less heat and by pure exhaust all are pushed out by heat..
uuum... whats the music ?
thank you
What song did you use for this video?
your tricking your engine to run lean
the oxygen sensor works by temperature so the steam lowers temps computer adjust by running lean
On a map sensor on the manifold? Isn't it the othwr way round ? The cooler the map sensor the richer and more timing advance?
very interesting!
what's the name of the first song?
Your vacuum increase because outside is 2 grad C and steam condensate on filter paper an block the filter ... simple.
The steam once in the cylinder is expanding more under combustion and giving more force on the piston?
and with the engine going a little bit faster with the same throttle angle the vacuum will go up:)
Can i email you?
Because your super heating the water vapor
but thatslike having a warm air intake. i want my engine running cooler not hotter i dont think the idea buys me son
haha thats random on the side of the road steaming the motor
ok you rpm are icrese . but thats becose you put more steem than its need so the computer makes a rich mix . yes steem those work but the amout of steem n the temperture of the steem are hurt to control . dont take me wrong i love your video but you have to split emocions from real since
Face it, gerhube2000 -- you got pwned.
You sure did like led's there on everything 😂🤦♂️
the vacuum increased because the filter gets clogged up with water
Go see a therapist about that.
Ok, the vacuum increases is probably due to valves sealing better with steam and water. The exhaust steam, I do not know. Did you get better MPG with steam? I would bet...not. There are ways to use the steam power...
Who is here in 2024
Bosch made it.
We are working on a solution based on the same principle. Steam is the key to fuel efficiency.
See this video. Steam Combustion Engine