I honestly think that if you get all the places of power as your spies, the intro scene should be the 4-6 of your generals carrying out the overlord and throwing him out the window to his death, no battle just splatter.
Better yet, Overlord walks out and the entire defending army turns against him, storming into the throne room while the archers fill him full of holes in his own balcony.
I had a fortress full of spys for an achievement. The Overlord found out one of them, the soothsayer. Funny enough is that in my first encounter with the soothsayer he said he saw visions of multiple things, two of those things being the edge of a knife and Talion's death. He said Talion's death was the most important, so he didnt realize he was foreseeing his own death.
Yea!! :D It was literally my first thought when I saw him up there...I was like.."waw this poor guy, betrayed by all of his men..this will be quick" and then nothing like that happened :D
@@AlenPesec one problem, first nurnen take over doesn't include a fight. You just meet ratbag, they'd have to make a whole new cutscene for that circumstance on nurnen
Reminds me of this passage from the wiki page on the Crypteia "the Spartan ephors would pro forma declare war on the helot population so that any Spartan citizen could kill a helot without fear of punishment." This was a kind of military/security operation the Spartans would engage on with their own slave population to cow them. It was more of a kind of terror operation but it was a war "pro forma" meaning this war was simply a formality. I get a similiar feeling out of a lot of the engagements in Shadow of War, the orcs you fight are set up to essentially already be under your control, but either the orcs want entertainment in the pit or they want to depose the overlord by showing everyone whose the strongest and toughest and bestest git. I mean you intentionally let orcs live so that you can fight them later, the whole shaming ritual is one of these formalities.
"This is our fort ...." Then imagine Bruz coming behind him, then proceeds to PENETRATE his back with a pike. "I DON'T WANT THIS FORT ! Will you just... keep the bloody fort "
god, i just finished the bruz missions and he ambushed me twice, shamed him twice more. then i thought "what the hell, nerf him to lvl 1 and make him suffer i chase after him and hes having a trial by ordeal. gets mauled to death instantly by a caragor. guess he was looking more for suicide than a trial
Cory Hooper I captured a fire graug and chased him around the map shaming him over and over but I accidentally killed him with the fire breath eventually lol.
lol, so i played more and he apparently lived, though his face was all covered in rope and bandages. shamed him all the way to lvl one and he kept trying to hunt graugs (guess he REALLY wanted to die lol). if he somehow survives, im making sure hes lvl 1 again, then ill force him to join me again, make him a body guard, and summon him time to time just so i can beat the shit out of him for my own amusement. kinda like the jester minion from overlord.
Mark Royston you can do this but it makes it easier if anything. Not saying there's anything wrong with it because it kinda adds up because the time you take just to get a spy in place could be equal to the time you take to kill the warchief
What are we bothering with the carving jems for after getting them all done and xp boosts? what for if we're all leveled up? also what's the point of the chests we win anymore? You get to Steward level and then what!? spoils of war mean nothing then too, the end of the game is er... ? I've studied creative computer game design at Swansea UTSD and I can see where they've had too many cooks in the kitchen here, just cross breed this fucker with Cod and You've got brilliant multiplayer, they just don't know how to do do it or can't be arsed to spend on servers.
hack and slash games aren't really made for multiplayer, or at least not this one. Just imagine all the counters you would do against another player and it would be a completely different system too. the way this game is set up is to just point to wherever your camera is and that's who you'll hit. imagine you trying to hit someone in multiplayer with the same skills as you. it would take forever, or be tedious.
There should almost be a special cut scene where all your spies come up behind the overlord and just kick him off. Instantly win forts by flooding them with successful spies.
Anybody else just love the momentum they build on this game when they're shouting out the name of their leaders? Makes you feel like you're in the middle of some honor-bound fight and you have to see it through.
Much have been removed and is its such a shame, same happend in SoM too. The Fortress gameplay seemed way more dynamic in the early gameplays that were shown.
Before you take the regional Fortress, when you recruit a Captain, you have the option to have him to infiltrate and spy on a War Chief. If he survives the fight pit match he will become a bodyguard for the War Chief. Then when you’re ready to take out the War Chief, during his intro, your spy will betray him. Some Ologs have flamethrowers.
I can just imagine saurons army coming to liberate the fort then they see everyones naked. Including the overlord. Sauron will be like: welp that's enough orc porn for today.
You can actually assign multiple spies as bodyguards to the overlord so when you finally confront him within his inner sanctum the men he has surrounding him are all on your side. I assigned 7 bodyguards once and all seven were in the throne room fighting along side me in the final battle. It would have let me assign even more but it was just to much slaughter. I don’t know what the limit is or if there even is one...
Love how the game developers made a system of spies Yet they didn’t have the idea of “what if the player makes a fortress full of spies?” It would be good to see some betrayal scene
Later, one of your Olog Warchiefs says, “How can you trust me when I already betrayed one master? Oh I intend to server you for the rest of my life. But, I intended the same with Sauron. It is a very interesting situation.”
Wait this isn't how everyone takes out the forts? Doing it like this makes it so much less annoying though - plus you get the extra EXP for fighting all the other orcs beforehand. I've ALWAYS done it like this - once I realised I could dominate almost any orc in the game, it was a no brainer that this was the next logical step. Plus I kinda assumed people would do it just for the achievement.
I usually kill them or do this but I've seen some people have spies for the warchiefs and have them kill the warchief during the siege idk it doesn't make much differences I prefer the idea of killing them during the siege because usually sieges are too easy because I recruit all of them
Plot twist, the overlord was on his side but he hit his metal dome on a rock and forgot everything and went back to being the overlord like he previously was
I didnt realize how power messes with your mind till I played this game. When the big dudes give me compliments or saves my life I'm like let's set this dude up but when they betray me I hunt that dude down immediately. Lol
"What Happens When Fortress Is FULL OF SPIES" Now that's a question I want to be answered for a long time. I'm so glad that there are mad lads like you doing this so I don't have to go through the work of setting this up. Thanks!
I pretty much go through the trouble to only capture the fort after making everyone a spy, and if the warlord has captain followers I claim those as well, then I can just sit back and watch them go to work.
This is the only outfit where you can see Talion's arms. No idea how I got it, never seen it before update 1.05 and Slaughter DLC
Zanar Aesthetics Name?
Name dude
Rhovanion armour, drops from slaughter tribe members
Scott Wheeldon not slaughter specific, I've a few pieces dropped by other epics.
S fairs, I've only seen it from slaughter but it's probs just a coincidence
-Captain Stakuga.
-Yes, my lord?
-Execute order 66!
-It will be done Bright Lord!
WHEN I TELL U THIS IS THE GREATEST COMMENT IVE EVER READ
2 years later and this comment still gold
noice 😂👌
@@xl_jakoby_lx1042 so it would seem
@@ethanbolger6690 wut
''this is my fort'!'
*all the other uruks giggling in the back*
XD
@@TheMetalhead678 giggling lmaooooo
Gotta love how there were more Blue troops then Red ones in the fort, before the assault force even entered.
Well we know that Bruz doesn't want the fort
@@hagamapama "you can have the fort!"
I honestly think that if you get all the places of power as your spies, the intro scene should be the 4-6 of your generals carrying out the overlord and throwing him out the window to his death, no battle just splatter.
That would be awesome but too easy at the same time
Exactly what I was expecting, was disappointed.
That would be too cheesy
Christian Man With Long Sword not really, having to brand all the warchiefs takes longer than just attacking head on
Better yet, Overlord walks out and the entire defending army turns against him, storming into the throne room while the archers fill him full of holes in his own balcony.
"Brilliang strategem by a brilliant man"
*Becomes the overlord*
And he not a funny orc, imagine what a funny orc say
I noticed that too, i guess kind words get you farther in Mordor than people think lol
@@Miguel-gf7sq thats hpw mordor works
@@mordecaiandrigbone.5107 talion lv99 nazghul
*overlord gets up*
"Great plan boss! They never knew what hit em."
Wish it was that easy
*Sauron stands up*
"Great plan, boss! They never saw it coming!"
god that would be hilarious
*Mordor gets up*
"Great plan my lord! they never suspected a thing!"
Middle-Earth gets up
"Great plan, boss! None saw it coming!"
1:23 glad I saw the subtitles.. I was sure he said," One things for sure lads, when we take this place, we're all getting naked..
LMAO
Thank you, that's hilarious.
OH YES! I DIDN'T KNOW I NEEDED THAT IN MY LIFE!
I'm fucking dead.
Strip party
I had a fortress full of spys for an achievement. The Overlord found out one of them, the soothsayer. Funny enough is that in my first encounter with the soothsayer he said he saw visions of multiple things, two of those things being the edge of a knife and Talion's death. He said Talion's death was the most important, so he didnt realize he was foreseeing his own death.
That sounds like a movie scene
Wtf, so many different orcs in this game
Was anyone else hoping that one of the spies would push the overlord off if the ledge?????
Yea!! :D It was literally my first thought when I saw him up there...I was like.."waw this poor guy, betrayed by all of his men..this will be quick" and then nothing like that happened :D
Mr. Panda I think that would be the job of the spy bodyguard
Yeh me too
@@AlenPesec one problem, first nurnen take over doesn't include a fight. You just meet ratbag, they'd have to make a whole new cutscene for that circumstance on nurnen
Yes absolutely
So, it was already your fort. Just needed that formality to make it official.
I think you copied someone
So, it was already his comment. Just needed that formality to make it official.
@@daanm3869 you edited the comment but still misspelled dislike
Is there an end to this game?
Reminds me of this passage from the wiki page on the Crypteia "the Spartan ephors would pro forma declare war on the helot population so that any Spartan citizen could kill a helot without fear of punishment." This was a kind of military/security operation the Spartans would engage on with their own slave population to cow them. It was more of a kind of terror operation but it was a war "pro forma" meaning this war was simply a formality. I get a similiar feeling out of a lot of the engagements in Shadow of War, the orcs you fight are set up to essentially already be under your control, but either the orcs want entertainment in the pit or they want to depose the overlord by showing everyone whose the strongest and toughest and bestest git. I mean you intentionally let orcs live so that you can fight them later, the whole shaming ritual is one of these formalities.
"Wait, the fort was already yours?"
"Always has been."
"Entire team is spy!"
That spy is not our spy!
this spy is a spy!
Pootisspy!
Gentleman, shall we?
"That heavy is a spy!"
"This is our fort ...."
Then imagine Bruz coming behind him, then proceeds to PENETRATE his back with a pike.
"I DON'T WANT THIS FORT ! Will you just... keep the bloody fort "
god, i just finished the bruz missions and he ambushed me twice, shamed him twice more. then i thought "what the hell, nerf him to lvl 1 and make him suffer
i chase after him and hes having a trial by ordeal. gets mauled to death instantly by a caragor. guess he was looking more for suicide than a trial
Cory Hooper I captured a fire graug and chased him around the map shaming him over and over but I accidentally killed him with the fire breath eventually lol.
lol, so i played more and he apparently lived, though his face was all covered in rope and bandages. shamed him all the way to lvl one and he kept trying to hunt graugs (guess he REALLY wanted to die lol). if he somehow survives, im making sure hes lvl 1 again, then ill force him to join me again, make him a body guard, and summon him time to time just so i can beat the shit out of him for my own amusement. kinda like the jester minion from overlord.
He reminds me of a combo of Bruce from finding Nemo and Groot from the comic Guardians of the galaxy.
Cory Hooper dude. The fuck?
You promoted the guy to overlord because of how he complimented you right?
Harold Lucy thought the same thing
*"Who do I have to blow to get promoted around here"*
Remember kids, its not what you know. Its who you blow.
You wouldn't?
ChromeADomeStone Do you talk like that in real life?
Buzzed Dong boi
It'd be hilarious if a drake just swooped down and snatched up the Overlord in the middle of his speech.
Drake: "Hah, you shoulda seen the look on their faces when I ate their leader, boss! They knew the fort was lost!"
I can see my house from here!!!!
Dragons dogma
@@nicholas_eras What has that got anything to do with this?
„Oh no you have interrupted my monologue“
Shelob: there's a spy in Minas Ithil
Talion: pssh, like spy singular? Get that shit outta here
Not A Lamp Shade Lmao
Talion: Got to pump those numbers up those are rookie numbers.
I really wish the Uruks called Talion something else after end game. The Bright Lord doesn't fit when he's a ring wraith
Well he's not a brightlord, and there's already a dark lord.....uh grey lord?
Just calling him "Gravewalker" would be enough
Just call him daddy
Edge Lord?
Green Lord.
I can’t play this game without making every orc in my army mentally insane
Lol I actually got them all to be undead haha
You’re a cruel one, gravewalker
I got the game really late but I'm going to find a weak captain and just keep shaming him till I can't shame him any more
@@blacklegbeastro5295 I'm gonna shame my orc till I can't no more 🎵
@@syedaliabdulrahman9337 ha, good one
This was the first thing I did, I thought everyone did this!?
makes it to easy
Mark Royston you can do this but it makes it easier if anything. Not saying there's anything wrong with it because it kinda adds up because the time you take just to get a spy in place could be equal to the time you take to kill the warchief
What are we bothering with the carving jems for after getting them all done and xp boosts? what for if we're all leveled up? also what's the point of the chests we win anymore? You get to Steward level and then what!? spoils of war mean nothing then too, the end of the game is er... ? I've studied creative computer game design at Swansea UTSD and I can see where they've had too many cooks in the kitchen here, just cross breed this fucker with Cod and You've got brilliant multiplayer, they just don't know how to do do it or can't be arsed to spend on servers.
hack and slash games aren't really made for multiplayer, or at least not this one. Just imagine all the counters you would do against another player and it would be a completely different system too. the way this game is set up is to just point to wherever your camera is and that's who you'll hit. imagine you trying to hit someone in multiplayer with the same skills as you. it would take forever, or be tedious.
Mark Royston I can't do this. It doesn't work for me and its fuckin annoying
Talion: Sir, I'm here with your eviction notice.
Talion: I'm here for you fort's extended warranty
"I can't believe you made it all the way here."
Really? I think anyone can believe it.
the most fun is when you capture a fortress with no one on your side and all of their warchiefs are there.
Max level 80 with all prestige skills maxed out you honestly dont even need an army
U must be real hardcore if thats your playstlyle
Blitzkrieg: Middle Earth Edition.
היטלר לא עשה שום דבר רע אחד הקוקסינלים אתה באמא שלי
@@rreoaz best Google translate 2019
@@ReyemNeirda translate? i speak hebrew...
@@rreoaz i hereby formally request a translation of your comment.
What’s the translation?
INTRUDER ALERT
ORC SPY IN THE BASE
Weezygeeza97 A ORC SPY?
Weezygeeza97 like 300 orc spies in
Overlord : They never saw us coming
@@ryanisnolongerhere7819 you'll never see it coMIIIIIIIIING!
A ORC SPY IS IN THE BASE?
So it was kind of already your fort lol
TheBlue Sentinel yeah
At this point it was nothing but a formality...
It was Talion just had a little to much to drink on the night he captured.
Overlord was just renting
@@ryanisnolongerhere7819 hahhahhhahaahh good one lad
There should almost be a special cut scene where all your spies come up behind the overlord and just kick him off. Instantly win forts by flooding them with successful spies.
6:05 That synchronization
The overlord: wait it’s all spys?
The six warcheifs, weapons drawn: always has been
That one guy that just says stop it: STOP I T
"Stop it, stop it! You. Must. Stoppit!
Masakox? Oh the deranged ork.
3:42 I want my friends to chant my name when I'm trying to capture a girl's heart just like the uruks in this game do.
Don't fall unconscious,Don't fall unconscious,Don't fall unconscious,Don't fall unconscious
Joshua Higginson
No friend zone
No friend zone
No Non friend zone
NO
Presumably that's also how you walk up to the ladies.
Herbivore The Carnivore While holding a big ass metal club? Hell yeah.
The dialogue here between Talion and the Overlord is legitimately some of the funniest dialogue I’ve seen come out of Talion’s mouth.
"I can't believe you made it all the way here.
Now i have to kill you myself!"
"Life is full of disappointments."
It hit hard tbh lol
I really like how "The Killer" is such a big but articulate guy
Anybody else just love the momentum they build on this game when they're shouting out the name of their leaders? Makes you feel like you're in the middle of some honor-bound fight and you have to see it through.
In one of their trailer gameplay, u can actually use spies to fight against the warlord himself but they remove it which is kinda lame.
Makes sense as Uruks vaule strength above all else. if your captains help you it makes you look weak and therefore not worthy of the fort.
Much have been removed and is its such a shame, same happend in SoM too. The Fortress gameplay seemed way more dynamic in the early gameplays that were shown.
Whatever happened to those shadow limbs/gauntlets and the flamethrower from the trailers? I was so looking forward to seeing those
Javon Younger
Well that makes no sense because I'm always on my own fighting up to 20+ Uruks
Before you take the regional Fortress, when you recruit a Captain, you have the option to have him to infiltrate and spy on a War Chief. If he survives the fight pit match he will become a bodyguard for the War Chief. Then when you’re ready to take out the War Chief, during his intro, your spy will betray him.
Some Ologs have flamethrowers.
Man i love that all the enemies(or allies) have there own wwe intros
LOL at 1:25 I thought he said "When we get this place, we're all getting NAKED!"
haha
now I can't unhear THAT, thank you....
That's it, that's the new overlord now.
I can just imagine saurons army coming to liberate the fort then they see everyones naked. Including the overlord. Sauron will be like: welp that's enough orc porn for today.
this comment is so underrated
5:24
"Life is full of disappointments"
Very fitting
0:27 "supa glue supa glue supa glue"
I hate you because now i cant unhear that lmao.
Sadistic Gamer dont read subtitels and it will sound like one things for sure lada when this fort is ours wi are all geting naked 1:23
They want their super glue back from the machine tribe
STICKY GLUE
in Portuguese it's much worse ... it would be something like 'CHUPA CU' wich means 'SUCK ASS'
In seregost my guy got his throat slit by the warcheif except, it wasn't my guy.
You can actually assign multiple spies as bodyguards to the overlord so when you finally confront him within his inner sanctum the men he has surrounding him are all on your side. I assigned 7 bodyguards once and all seven were in the throne room fighting along side me in the final battle. It would have let me assign even more but it was just to much slaughter. I don’t know what the limit is or if there even is one...
It took me a minute to realise the chanting in the background is calling out the orcs' names
Its so hype even i chant their name
4:19 they ran out of dialogue
lmfao xD silence means a lot
ZeDerpinator maybe he was the mute one I know some orcs and giants can’t talk
*CHANTING INTENSIFIES*
New Era Films AZ BROR AZ BROR AZ BROR AZ BROR
That's probably the game telling you that there are too many spies and not much needs to be said about how stacked the odds are in your favor.
They didn't had pyro, that's why they lost.
Rokador ʇɥǝ qox loɹp I understand dat
When the whole class snitches on you
Man something about that thumbnail looks really weird.
Angra Mainyu it looks stretched
Angra Mainyu Yup, it looks like it’s a minimum texture settings screenshot that’s been stretched hahah
talion has been put on the rack
reminds me of Kylo Ren xD
Hikarol-chan Talion got swole
2:57 *Random Orc:* Take the fort!
*Random Olog:* I LIKE IT!!!
"this is my fort!"
Bruz: "I never wanted the fort! I never wanted it you can keep the fort"
PS: I kinda felt sad for bruz when he got at that point
Love how the game developers made a system of spies
Yet they didn’t have the idea of “what if the player makes a fortress full of spies?”
It would be good to see some betrayal scene
The big trol was so gentle, even pardonning himself. Such a nice gentletroll
Thumbnail looked like game on ps2
Not only thumbnail tho
I knew that graphics are bad on consoles but this
ディック graphics were pretty good
ディック I think he just has his settings turned way down cuz it doesn’t like anywhere near this bad on my friends xbox
Some people have to lower their settings to record
I thought it was a prince of persia skin or something
*_"You can't do this! This fortress is OURS!"_*
All his war chiefs: I don't know how to break it to ya' overlord but...
Later, one of your Olog Warchiefs says,
“How can you trust me when I already betrayed one master? Oh I intend to server you for the rest of my life. But, I intended the same with Sauron.
It is a very interesting situation.”
I actually got that dialogue
Overlord just gets up from his seat and talks about how the plan was perfect and no on suspected it.
Wait this isn't how everyone takes out the forts? Doing it like this makes it so much less annoying though - plus you get the extra EXP for fighting all the other orcs beforehand. I've ALWAYS done it like this - once I realised I could dominate almost any orc in the game, it was a no brainer that this was the next logical step.
Plus I kinda assumed people would do it just for the achievement.
Some people either don't have the patience to do this, others don't want the game to be a cakewalk, so they intentionally leave a few alone.
I usually kill them or do this but I've seen some people have spies for the warchiefs and have them kill the warchief during the siege idk it doesn't make much differences I prefer the idea of killing them during the siege because usually sieges are too easy because I recruit all of them
@@quinntheking hrmmm... I'might try this
"Your resignation has been accepted we merely await its submission"
my favorite part is hearing them chant the name of the warchiefs.
This is what pure efficiency looks like
Wow that was Eazy
"He could be any one of us. He could be in this very room. He could be you! He could be me! He could even be-"
this is the first time I've seen Talion actually say something in shadow wars other than his usual line for hunting warchiefs
Orthog and Assbro didnt even try to speak
Ilove how they shout every name, such a cool detail
Basically opened the gate and welcomed you in like it was your home.
Life is full of disappointments.
The overlord was probably thinking man hmm funny how all my warchiefs got blue armour all of a sudden
*Badly mimics a Southern drawl through a bad French accent* Why don't we just give up, Pardner?
This is a TF2 free zone BEGON THIS
@@LGNxR1C3 There's no such thing as a TF2-free zone. Nowhere is safe.
@@joeymcm04 oh no... My TF2 days have caught up to me :(
Lmao for a moment I thought even the lord of the fort was gonna be your guy 🤣
It's actually possible while playing on gravewalker/brutal to get hit by grunts like... thrice... and die even though all the captains were spies
I can't believe it took me this long to realize you can hear them chanting the names of these guys.
The uruks were all: "Notice me SEMPAI!!!"
Talion, breaks the fourth wall and winks at the player: great plan boss, they never saw it comin’.
Theeese orcs ain't loyal 🎶
Plot twist, the overlord was on his side but he hit his metal dome on a rock and forgot everything and went back to being the overlord like he previously was
5:54 two plus two?
They were quoting their Lord big Shaq's holy words
I'm sure that Wat it is lmfao
Is 4 minus 1 thats 3 quick math
That equals to 4 hands
3:13 This suck up was TOTALLY planning to betray you
"Well planned is half-done."
This Overlord is like: how about this one, my army, my fortress
All spyes at the same time: _about that_
Would’ve been funny if he got Zun own mount to betray him. 😂
My favorite thing in this game is literally converting EVERY captain
0:28 *CHU-PA CHUPS CHU-PA CHUPS CHU-PA CHUPS*
1:24 "When we take this place, we're all getting naked!"
Is what I heard. Which...helluva visual.
That orc is a Spy!
*yes this a TF2 joke lol*
When will the government stop your sinful hand
This is some KGB level spying here
Overlord talking to the warchiefs: ok everyone knows the plan for an invasion
Warchiefs: *draws weapons*
Overlord: aww shit
Even better when you got spies as body guards for the overlord
0:27 "Su ba ru su ba ru"
All 6 spies carry the overlord coffin dance style and dump him off the tower
even you Brutus?
Et tu, Bruz?
-Wait why are you blue ArKorg?
-It's nothing boss, it's just the new style
-MM you are not with the Immortal?
-..
I didnt realize how power messes with your mind till I played this game. When the big dudes give me compliments or saves my life I'm like let's set this dude up but when they betray me I hunt that dude down immediately. Lol
Haha true
I’ve done it before where I’ve got three or so of my own orcs as bodyguards to the overlord and we instantly destroyed him
6:43 I didn't know you could disarm captains :0
This is what I imagine Coup D'etat are like
The armor he is wearing is either the OUTLAW or RHOVANION
well that overlord didnt pay the rent...thats the consequense....
I’m just surprised you managed to dominate all warchiefs without accidentally killing them with a stealth attack.
(Cough cough) who would do that
*ceeertainly* not me...
"What Happens When Fortress Is FULL OF SPIES" Now that's a question I want to be answered for a long time. I'm so glad that there are mad lads like you doing this so I don't have to go through the work of setting this up. Thanks!
Well those 2 guys in the inner gate will never get promote since they didn't compliment your plan
"we almost feel sorry for the guy."
It could be any one of us. It could be you. It could be me! It could even be...
*Betrayal* *Betrayal* *Betrayal* *Betrayal* *Betrayal* *Betrayal* *Betrayal* *Betrayal*
I pretty much go through the trouble to only capture the fort after making everyone a spy, and if the warlord has captain followers I claim those as well, then I can just sit back and watch them go to work.