Obviously, if Ron has his wand facing Aragog, he casts the slug belching curse in one of the spiders, distracting them all with easier food enough for them to get away.
Assuming Ron’s wand was loyal to him (as it belonged to Charlie previously), it’s also possible for his wand to refuse Lockhart’s spell against its master Ron and backfire onto Lockhart, which would allow the rest of the original story to transpire lol
@@alexanderzack3720 not necessarily. A wand is not always so fickle that it’d change allegiance by a simple disarming spell. If that was the case, Ron wouldn’t after a wand after DA practice with Hermione lol. The elder wand swayed when Dumbledore was severely weakened and Draco was at worst emotionally.
@@twoankles and swapped again when harry ripped wand out of draco´s hand... the elder wand wasn´t even close by. my guess why practising the disarming spell in class or the DA doesn´t do that is: the other party doesn´t take the wand and gives it right back. both go into that szenaria EXPECTING that you get disarmed (similar to what dumbledore tried the "not fighting back" part)
@@alexanderzack3720 That’s entirely possible and I do not deny Lockhart could have won such allegiance, I don’t assume so as such formality is not necessary in determining a wand’s loyalty. After all, in the famous words of Ollivander, the wand chooses the wizard.
Seeing that clip of Malfoy made me wonder: Why didn’t Lucius tell him it was Hagrid that got expelled? You’d think he’d be happy to tell him how a half-breed got kicked out of Hogwarts.
It could have harmed Voldemort's future plans for the Chamber. Dumbledore already believed in Hagrid's innocence, he was just not in a position to save him from being expelled. However, as Headmaster, he would do everything to prove his innocence and would likely start an investigation. Hagrid's framing was highly illogical, ad if Dumbledore finds out what the key is to unleash the Basilisk, even if he can't find the entrance itself, would cause serious challenges when Voldemort wants to open it again.
I mean, Malfoy really wants to help the heir. Obviously idolizing and giving them hero worship even without knowing who they are. What do you think would happen if Malfoy learned that the half-breed giant who is an abomination even worse than a mud blood is actually the individual who he wants to help and considers to be a hero. I think that would be something Lucious wouldn't want his son to know.
@@trevorritzke2099 Good point. Although that’s assuming that Lucius actually believed it was Hagrid who opened the Chamber and didn’t know that Voldemort was the true heir of Slytherin. That seems like something Voldemort would brag to his Death Eaters about, especially the one he entrusted the diary to.
This also means that, if Harry and Ron had simply waited next to the car for Ron's parents to return (instead of taking the car), the same thing would have happened: Ron's wand would not have been broken, the Ford Anglia would not have roamed the Forest, and Voldemort would have won...
@@mienfu9824 Surely you're joking. She had no way of knowing that, she only knew that Harry and Ron had almost died and gotten Arthur in a great deal of trouble at work.
Idea: What if Harry went to the Yule Ball with Ginny instead of Parvati Edit: Or maybe ‘What if Peter never became friends with the rest of the marauders’
I thought that was part of another theory vid they did. I'm suddenly not remembering any more and could be making it up, but wasn't there a theory on all 7 years or something. Idk someone else knows lol
So Dobby would not have been freed. Even if Rons wand snapped in the forest, so it still backfires on Lockhart, Harry and Dobby would only meet for the first time when Dobby comes to Hogwarts with Lucius Malfoy. He would be a weird thing with big eyes and ears, wildly gesturing and Harry would just think, that Dobby is a curious creature, not understanding anything or even knowing of house elves.
And it goes even deeper: Harry never meets Dobby, He never frees him from the Malfoys. And Dobby wont rescue Harry and His Friends from Malfoys Mansion. If He even gets to this Point.😅
To add to that: Harry wouldn‘t know anything about handling a house-elf which in turn would have a massive impact on Harry‘s relationship with Kreacher
Harry might very well drown attempting the second Triwizard Task (he's going to try if he thinks he needs to save Ron and Hermione even if he has no idea how to do it) if Barty Crouch Jr can't come up with another backup plan. He won't find out about the Room of Requirement, and so the DA is probably either discovered early on or never really gets off the ground. This results in Hermione, Ron, Ginny, Neville, Luna, and several other characters lacking critical skills,more than likely getting at least one of them killed if they still go to the Department of Mysteries, and greatly increasing the chance that they will die in the final book. Potentially, Harry and/or other DA members are expelled from Hogwarts (this could potentially get reversed the next year, though). And, of course, as already said, no Dobby significantly impacts how Harry handles the Kreacher situation, and no Dobby means no rescue from Malfoy Manor. So basically, Prisoner of Azkaban is the ONLY book where Harry isn't screwed without Dobby there.
Actually I imagine Lockhart would need to cast "obligate" twice, once for Ron and once for Harry. In which case, if he starts with Ron, Harry might at least be able to save himself by disarming Lockhart and then knocking him out. Harry would then go and save Ginny and once Harry explains to Dumbledore what happened, Lockhart would get arrested and Ron would be sent to St Mungo's.
Well... For one thing it's "OBLIVIATE" not "obligate" and for another thing... I doubt the wand would have actually worked. Remember that according to Ollivander 'the wand chooses the wizard.' On that note, I seriously doubt that a wand that had only served the Weasleys who were all kind, honest, loyal and brave would switch allegiance to someone who is a fraud, sly and cunning like Lockhart. It just... doesn't make sense.
@@alinamagda2547 The wand worked in removing Lockhart's memories so I see no reason why it couldn't work on Harry and Ron. I guess it is possible that if the wand had chosen Ron (which it hadn't as it was a hand-me-down), then perhaps it might have refused to obliviate Ron and only worked on Harry.
Yes it does. Without the 1st time meeting then the bond between Harry and dobby is established for the future. Which means when the trio is captured in the forest they cant call him to help them escape.
Not only could he call kreacher, but also Harry’s not the one who calls dobby in the first place, aberforth is. Also I feel like the story might be a lot more interesting if when we see dobby at Malfoy manner he’s still owned by the Malfoys, and has an inner turmoil between his wizard family and his loyalty to the one who made the dark lord go away for the first time
@@gingersnap8543When in Deathly Hallows Dobby comes to rescue them, he is not owned by Malfoys. Harry tricks Lucius into freeing Dobby at the end of CoS itself. After that Dobby had been working at Hogwarts (taking salary and all). He went to rescue Harry because he thought of him as a friend.
The only reason they let Harry stay at the Burrow in Goblet of Fire is because Harry threatened to tell Sirius he was being mistreated. The Dursleys still believe Sirius is a murderer, Harry "conveniently" forgot to tell them he was innocent. Edit: I get the point! The Durselys don't know Harry can't do magic, now will you all shut up about it
Well I'm not sure that was the ONLY reason - I mean he DOES have that internal battle J was talking about, and I think possibly the thought of saying no to Mr Weasly may have had the same effect on Uncle Vernon that Sirius does
Plus if the Dursleys are going to Spain then Harry will need a place to stay cause they don't wanna take him or leave him home alone Oh and plus I guess whether he stays with them or not doesn't make a huge difference, I think we can pretty safely assume that he reaches the train at the same time as them anyway cause that's what happens first year
I'd be really surprised by Ron's ability to take down dozens of huge spiders without considering his phobia!!..I think it was better if a fantastic beast save them now that we are improvising
I agree, I don’t see any way for Harry and Ron to fight their way out of this. If the car wasn’t there, someone/thing else would have to save them. Most likely the centaurs, perhaps Firenze follows Harry through the forest and goes to get the others when he sees where he and Ron are going, allowing them to arrive in the nick of time for a rescue. Given there’s already centaur rescues in PS and OotP, it would be very repetitive!
Great video as always. Here's my own what if to grease the gears of creativity: what if Hermione was sorted into Ravenclaw? She was almost (or is, I don't remember) a hatstall between that and Gryffindor. In the end the hat lead her one way, but what if it led to another? Onto a path where she might not even befriend the other two of the trio in the first place? Though I do admit Flitwick's class on Halloween was left ambiguous in the movies it was with Slytherin so there's a good chance the event that sends her off on the night of the troll attack just never even happens. Just an idea, because throughout all the years Hermione is a constant and present aid to the trio. Without her, what could happen?
Assuming harry and ron survived up to the 3 year (which i belive its true thanks to some damb luck, i can elaborate) and assuming hermione still get the time turner in the third year (reasonable assumption) this is what will happen In cannon, what happened is that dambledor saw harry cast a patronus to save himself, realised there was a time travel, realised sirius was innocent and thought of his plan The exact same thing will happen here too, and because hermione is the only student with a time turner he will explain her the situation and ask for her help and she will agree Now if a single troll was enough to make them friends, a full time travel adventure will also be enough Now in the 4 year, haery will probably visit the ravenclaw common room a lot when he has his fight with ron, so he will see thestatue with the diadem so he may will recognize and destroy the diadem in the 6 year when he find it If he do that, it will make a huge diffrent and prevent the entire battle of hogwarts, what will happened instead ? I can only guess
There was no hatstall for Hermione. She said the hat did consider her for Ravenclaw, but in the end chose her to go to Gryffindor. A hat stall only occurs when the hat takes more than 5 minutes to place you. And by book, and movie accounts, she wasn't under the hat very long.
I’d love to see a theory on what if Harry and Ron decided not to be friends with Hermione. Her character provides so much exposition and moves the plot forward on many occasions.
I saw a comment on another video suggesting: what if Hermione had been killed by the troll in book 1? I always thought that would be awesome to tackle, but it might be too much.
Because she lets them copy her notes and homework, I think it would force them to become better students. But Harry would probably get stuck at the Potions Riddle.
@@staticradio724 Honestly you don't have to kill her, just have her sorted into Ravenclaw, where surrounded by people intellectually tilted like her, she'd have a circle of friends, and thus is unlikely to interact with Harry and Ron, which honestly nobody gets the stone then. In that case, ironically Quirell remains possessed and the DADA teacher in year two, or Dumbledore just turns him in to prove Voldermort "survived". Hmmm.... not really one of their usual ones that sticks near the script, but that would be an interesting timeline, of what happens if nobody gets to the stone.
If Harry and Ron escape the spiders there is no reason why Harry couldn't beat Lockhart down in the chamber knocking him into the wall and causing the cave in same as in the original story. With the added bonus that Lockhart gets to answer for his crimes.
@@zbanul10 Also, the Longbottoms would be instrumental in the Second Wizarding War. Plus they might have caught Lucious Malfoy trying to slip the horcrux diary into Ginny's cauldron and thrwarted that plan.
I don’t think the horcrux inside of Harry would have let him die to spideys. Likely he would have produced some sort of OP magic like golden flames to save himself when near death. The only reason the basilisk venom would have killed him without Fawks intervention is because that destroys horcruxes. Every other time he’s been in real life or death situations his wand has produced a McMuffin to save him :3
@@thomaszielke866 Given its destroyed when Harry dies to a death curse, Harry dying otherwise would still destroy it. Thus why the soul fragment would likely defend itself in some way as the most plausible survival rote.
Ron uses "Lumos Maxima" on the spiders, and with how scared he is, it is to powerful and damages his wand just enough that when Lockhart tries to memory wipe them it backfires on him.
But how does it effect the rest of the saga, like Harry never gets the gillyweed, they never find out about the room of requirement, and they never escape from Malfoy manor
There is no rest of the series unless there's some way to recover from magically induced memory loss, which as far as we know... there isn't. There's zero evidence to the contrary.
I think that the rest of the books wouldn’t happen as Voldemort returns two years earlier and then successfully takes over without Harry too stop him because he is spider food/mindless
I understand your question. Maybe with the horcrux in Harry destroyed by either spiders or Voldemort, the prophecy is broken and dumbledore is free to try take down Voldemort himself. Would he find all the horcruxes? Would he succeed? What about Sirius in Azkaban? Peter/scabbers? Snape? I know what you wanna hear
Well, Aragog was obviously good to Hagrid, so he thought he would be the same to Ron and Harry. I’m sure he’d be upset if Ron and Harry told him what the spiders tried to do.
@@SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333 hagrid never listened to anything like that when harry and his friends said the same thing about other creatures hagrid had, you really think he would believe it when they say it about hagrids oldest freind he knew for 50 years?
Im very thankful to you boys for single handedly keeping my potter fanatacism at a healthy 8/10. Gonna do another listen through of the audiobooks at work soon thanks Carlin Bros!
But what if the Order of the Phoenix had figured out the easiest and safest way to get Harry out of Privet Drive was for Dobby to take him? Also Dobby wouldn’t give Harry the Gillyweed in Goblet of Fire, since he wouldn’t be at Hogwarts. He might still rescue them in Deathly Hallows, since he would still be a slave. If they had somehow managed to survive with their minds.
Given it was a set up by Barty Croutch Jr, he would have found another way to get Harry what he needs, since the plan falls apart if Harry starts so far behind he can't win the maze, or outright performs so poorly the professors decide by the end even though he's "competing" Harry is to just sit at the start of the maze for his own safety.
6:42 The reason Vernon agreed to let Harry go with the Weasleys to the Quidditch World Cup was because Harry threatened to let Sirius know he was being mistreated, and Vernon believed Sirius was a mass murderer at the time and agreed out of fear. In second year, Harry lacks that trump card and Vernon wouldn’t let him go. He didn’t even let Harry go to Hogwarts at first in the first book. To Vernon, keeping Harry unhappy and away from magic is more important than sending Harry away.
A scenario I think would be interesting is "What if Harry got the dementor's kiss in OOTP?" I wonder how dumbledore would react to harry, dudley and probably mrs figg getting the dementor's kiss
@@alexanderzack3720Actually OOTP members were keeping watch on Harry secretly all the summer. That day it was Mundungus Fletcher's turn, who I don't remember exactly went to purchase some free cupcakes or something. Mrs Figg mentions to Harry that she would complain to Dumbledore about this.
I think the horcrux inside harry would have protected him, similar to how he produced golden flames to block Voldemort’s killing curse while unconscious in the battle of the seven potters. This comes from Ben’s theory of the golden flames, I understand that dumbledore tells harry that his wand did this because of the graveyard battle but I prefer the explanation that the horcrux is protecting itself when presented with certain death. (This doesn’t happen when harry sacrifices himself in the battle of hog warts because he is not holding his wand)
Vernon's drill deal is almost definitely for exclusive supplier rights for a construction company rather than a single sale to an individual. I can't imagine a sinlge person spending enough on drills for themselves to justify buying a second house in a different country, but I can see it if it's for a company that might need hundreds of drills and drill accessories.
8:38 Honestly that "you can have it downloaded before I'm done with this ad read" is a truly inspired endorsement. If I didn't already have it installed, that might've convinced me. :P
Or what if Buckbeak comes to their rescue and flys them out of there, that would also set up Harry seeing Buckbeak later in PoA and why he is willing to let Harry ride him again.
The Irony is I forgot about Lockhart's memory charm, so when you gave the outside chance that Harry and Ron survived Aragog, I thought that Harry would have no idea what Dobby was doing when pointing at the diary and Lucius Malfoy. it would have been a minor change but it would have meant Dobby wouldn't have been freed (assuming Harry even knew how).
Here's an interesting Harry Potter What If, "What If Dudley was also a wizard?". Also I would want to know "What if Dudley and Harry were childhood friends/acted like an older brother to Harry?"
Ron survives because of a bezoar thanks to harry if slughorn doesn't have one in his supply he would die. Dumbledore had snape trying to figure out what draco was doing but draco was being secretive so it is possible he could accidentally kill the wrong person
@@alexpayne6753 Fair point. I feel like Dumbledore himself would have been more skeptical of any gifts given directly to himself, but yeah one ended up with Ron, so who knows....
Yeah im imagining dracos Character changes significantly if he kills someone considering he lowers his wand leading to either snape managing to secretly kill Dumbledore post locket retrieval or more of a decent for draco in a in for a penny in for a pound moment and he kills Dumbledore
Was listening to the chamber of secrets the other day on audiobook and love your what if scenario videos. At the beginning of the book she almost forgets her diary at home instead of taking it to school. This leads to one of a few scenarios where she forgets all about it due to the excitement of the first year of school: She takes it to school with her on one of the other years after finding it whilst tidying her bedroom. I think prisoner of Azkaban makes the most sense but goblet of fire would be just as crazy ( and my favourite).
The Hermione-Velociraptor mashed up had me dying! Great breakdown of a "What If". I'm really enjoying these. This proves Dobby is a true hero, too, so even more excellent.
I am surprised we are doing this one. Without Dobby, there would be no random cake dump, no bars on the windows, harry would be talking to his friends, no escape from locked room, Lucius Malfoy would have cursed Harry at the end of the Chamber, no locked metal gateway to the train, so no flying car, no Whomping Willow, no broken wand, no howler, no midnight meetings, no rescue from Malfoy Manner, he wouldn't have died, no Gillyweed.
Without Dobby having interfered, Harry wouldn't have tricked Lucius into freeing Dobby, if he'd even brought Dobby at all, (in part because he wouldn't have known how yet) so Lucius wouldn't have had any reason to try to curse Harry at the end.
@@mr.d8747 Nah, Harry would just Expelliarmous spell. sorry, can't spell it, you know the one I mean. He'd do his famous charm and he'd still live because of the Horcrux. He survived everything else.
@@andeeharry *It's hard to disarm an animal without any arms. Also, Harry isn't invincible, not even against Voldemort yet because he hasn't taken Harry's blood yet. It's explained well in Dumbledore's Big Plan - Prisoner of Azkaban. If Harry gets eaten by the spiders, both Harry and the horcrux inside him would die.*
If dobby never interferes Harry and Ron are either eatan alive by giant spiders, or they're minds are erased, Voldemort comes back kills Harry.... Good job dobby?
He kinda did in the long run and he helped significantly in 7, once he was freed by Harry well in Dobby's interpretation Luscious, he was than free to do whatever he wanted from that point on, we just never got that perspective or story to what happened to him between 2 and his well you know. There is every possibility he was a guardian to Harry even if we didn't know it through the book/movie.
Superficially, yes. But I agree with the sentiment here. The car wouldn't be in the forest, which is the only reason they made it out, and Ron's wand wouldn't be broken, which was just rotten luck on Lockhart's part to grab that one.
16:06 Of all the jokes to get a callback I did not expect the Lav-Raptor! I really hope someone watches this video first and has no context for that reference. 🤣
I think a good new what if after this would be What If Dobby Never Came To The Rescue In Malfoy Manor. Would Harry and his friends still live? How far was Draco willing to go to defy Voldy after refusing to identify Harry? (The easy way out of this is Kreacher saving them but I think that's a bit too easy, don't you?)
i´m not sure if at that point they even know that kreacher is still alive. remember they never came back to grimauld because hermione accidently "told" a deatheater the secret so they could enter the place. they probably expected the deatheaters to raid the place and kill kreacher who tried to defend the home
Ehhh... Dobby seems genuinely loyal to Harry Potter multiple times throughout the series. And once he's already at the school, Dobby still visits him again. What would be their point in sending Dobby to the hospital wing in the middle of the night?
I understand the spider and no car problem, but if Ron's wand isn't broken, he probably had at least a chance to be better in the dueling club, so giving him the benefit of the doubt seems reasonable, despite Lockheart's ineptitude.
Great video, guys! It leaves you thinking that no matter if you fail at what you are trying to do, it is very important that you do it. You never know in what way it will work out for you in the end. Dobby is a hero.
4:48 Technically, that only happens in the movie. In the book, Dobby just drops it in a big crash onto the kitchen floor making it splatter everywhere.
Also, Colin wouldn’t have been prettified at all, since he was only going to the hospital wing to see Harry, so no Dobby means no Lockhart removing Harrys bones means no hospital wing for Harry and no Colin sneaking down to see him.
You forget that Ron's wand would be so weak by that point that it would barely work because then it would be a third generation wizard owner with that specific wand
In this case, Harry starts arguing with Arogog, but suddenly it’s in Parsel Tongue. Arogog realizes that he is the Heir of Slytherin, or so he thinks, and now knows that if for any reason the “Friend’s of Hagrid” don’t return to the castle, the Basilisk WILL COME LOOKING FOR THEM. 😎 “Children, calm yourself. Good bye friends of Hagrid, take your leave and give Hagrid my best.” Harry and Ron depart, and Ron calls Harry out for being a Parsel mouth.
I just had my birthday and got a little Hedwig stuffed animal! I used to have one but I lost her. She was a normal size like the one in the back of the Carlin brothers’ room. But the one I just got is tiny and very cute!! So now I’m cuddling up to her listening to SuperCarlinBrothers’ Harry Potter videos! Very fun!
So remember Harry starts running when Lockhart uses the obliviate curse? So there is a possibility Harry misses the curse but Ron gets the full impact of it. Which means we need a whole 7 part series of 'What if there was no Ron?' :-P
6:45 Uh, not quite. There’s one thing you’re overlooking: Sirius. Harry didn’t tell the Dursley’s that Sirius wasn’t a criminal, but he did tell them that he was his godfather. Thus, the Dursley’s were terrified that Sirius would show up and turn them into bats if Harry gave the command. That morning was the morning Harry’s scar hurt after the vision of Voldemort killing Frank Bryce, and he was writing a letter to Sirius to relay the news. Only after Harry said that he was writing to Sirius did Vernon give Harry permission to go to the Quidditch World Cup. In this situation, Harry doesn’t know Sirius exists, so that ace isn’t in his sleeve. I would imagine the Dursley’s would be terrified about a family of 9 wizards coming to pick Harry up, but I doubt they’d let him go without at least a fight.
19:50 Would Harry actually lose his mind? He cheats death, throws off the imperious curse, can't be manipulated or processed, isn't turned into a that creature thing if some magical person had thier magic suppressed....you really think Lockhart would succeed? I doubt it, not with Lilly's sacrifice and Voldemort's Shard. It wouldn't be permanently, or it wouldn't phase him at all. I can't say the same for Ron, but Harry would come out unharmed. Yes, okay, Diary Voldemort would return stronger, but he wouldn't be able to leave the pages, since he is just a memory. Which maeans that the diary would be very dangerous, and would behave like the other Horcruxes. It would just take longer to destroy.
Imagine the slug belching curse never backfired on Ron and that became his signature spell
Now that’s a hex I wouldn’t want cast on me
just like ginnys batbogey hex 😮
I love the idea of Ron doing this in the Ministry of magic when they are fighting the filthy death eaters.
I’d love to imagine Malfoy having to throw up slugs lol i’m a Gryffindor by the way
Interesting, considering bat boogie hex is Ginny's
Obviously, if Ron has his wand facing Aragog, he casts the slug belching curse in one of the spiders, distracting them all with easier food enough for them to get away.
And now I can only see a spider 🤮🤮🤮🤮slugs 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
Pretty obvious
He could go super saiyan and go on a fear-driven extermination spree.
@@tvrkm6897it’s the legendary……..Super Ginger!
He might even go Super Ginger 2!
@@NTLMBigBench"kaaa...meee...'aaaa...meee....'AAAA"
Assuming Ron’s wand was loyal to him (as it belonged to Charlie previously), it’s also possible for his wand to refuse Lockhart’s spell against its master Ron and backfire onto Lockhart, which would allow the rest of the original story to transpire lol
but lockhart would have won alegience of the wand, since he disarmed it from ron, similar how harry won over the death wand from malfoy
@@alexanderzack3720 not necessarily. A wand is not always so fickle that it’d change allegiance by a simple disarming spell. If that was the case, Ron wouldn’t after a wand after DA practice with Hermione lol. The elder wand swayed when Dumbledore was severely weakened and Draco was at worst emotionally.
Taking a wand physically transfers allegiance as seen in the deathly hallows
@@twoankles and swapped again when harry ripped wand out of draco´s hand... the elder wand wasn´t even close by.
my guess why practising the disarming spell in class or the DA doesn´t do that is: the other party doesn´t take the wand and gives it right back. both go into that szenaria EXPECTING that you get disarmed (similar to what dumbledore tried the "not fighting back" part)
@@alexanderzack3720 That’s entirely possible and I do not deny Lockhart could have won such allegiance, I don’t assume so as such formality is not necessary in determining a wand’s loyalty. After all, in the famous words of Ollivander, the wand chooses the wizard.
Seeing that clip of Malfoy made me wonder: Why didn’t Lucius tell him it was Hagrid that got expelled? You’d think he’d be happy to tell him how a half-breed got kicked out of Hogwarts.
It could have harmed Voldemort's future plans for the Chamber. Dumbledore already believed in Hagrid's innocence, he was just not in a position to save him from being expelled. However, as Headmaster, he would do everything to prove his innocence and would likely start an investigation. Hagrid's framing was highly illogical, ad if Dumbledore finds out what the key is to unleash the Basilisk, even if he can't find the entrance itself, would cause serious challenges when Voldemort wants to open it again.
Because he was just giving up the diary without knowing what it was. Don’t you remember, had he known what he had he’d never have given it up.
I mean, Malfoy really wants to help the heir. Obviously idolizing and giving them hero worship even without knowing who they are. What do you think would happen if Malfoy learned that the half-breed giant who is an abomination even worse than a mud blood is actually the individual who he wants to help and considers to be a hero. I think that would be something Lucious wouldn't want his son to know.
@@trevorritzke2099 Good point. Although that’s assuming that Lucius actually believed it was Hagrid who opened the Chamber and didn’t know that Voldemort was the true heir of Slytherin. That seems like something Voldemort would brag to his Death Eaters about, especially the one he entrusted the diary to.
At least Lucius didn't give the diary to Draco or Ginny while knowing that it was a horcrux.
This also means that, if Harry and Ron had simply waited next to the car for Ron's parents to return (instead of taking the car), the same thing would have happened: Ron's wand would not have been broken, the Ford Anglia would not have roamed the Forest, and Voldemort would have won...
So Molly basically sent a howler to Ron for doing something that saved both his and Harry's life. What a terrible mother!
@@mienfu9824 Surely you're joking. She had no way of knowing that, she only knew that Harry and Ron had almost died and gotten Arthur in a great deal of trouble at work.
Basically 😅
@@TheKabuto90 Sending a howler at all to publicly humiliate your son isn't being a good mother.
If they’d just sent Harry’s owl like the teachers suggested the same would’ve happened… preteen stupidity saved their lives
When I first saw the title of this video my immediate thought was that Harry and Ron would be spider food. Dobby was so inadvertently helpful.
That was my exact thought too. Dobby was extremely important to the story because he saved Harry's life inadvertently.
Same😊
If Ron had his wand in the forest, he could make the spiders "eat slugs", which is kind of the perfect defense in that moment.
except, at best, he can do that one spider at a time. they are both dead before ron curses a dozen of them
What if Dumbledore never heard the prophecy and still thought it was down to him to take down Voldemort?
Wow chill Trelawney this is way too speculative
That’s a good one
@@barba5209 exactly! Be more speculative, Goyle.
@@olirothers I didn't know you wore glasses....
What if they never knew about the prophecy and didn't know/think Harry was "the chosen one?"
Idea: What if Harry went to the Yule Ball with Ginny instead of Parvati
Edit: Or maybe ‘What if Peter never became friends with the rest of the marauders’
this so much this
She would awkwardly feed him every food at the ball and god forbid if harry had laces on those shoes
@@Gummyz25 well… in the Movie surely… sorry couldn‘t kept my Book nerd to myself
I thought that was part of another theory vid they did. I'm suddenly not remembering any more and could be making it up, but wasn't there a theory on all 7 years or something. Idk someone else knows lol
or with Nevile
So Dobby would not have been freed. Even if Rons wand snapped in the forest, so it still backfires on Lockhart, Harry and Dobby would only meet for the first time when Dobby comes to Hogwarts with Lucius Malfoy. He would be a weird thing with big eyes and ears, wildly gesturing and Harry would just think, that Dobby is a curious creature, not understanding anything or even knowing of house elves.
I’m glad Dobby was added to the story. He was a great elf.
A great and 𝕗𝕣𝕖𝕖 elf
And it goes even deeper:
Harry never meets Dobby, He never frees him from the Malfoys.
And Dobby wont rescue Harry and His Friends from Malfoys Mansion.
If He even gets to this Point.😅
To add to that: Harry wouldn‘t know anything about handling a house-elf which in turn would have a massive impact on Harry‘s relationship with Kreacher
Funny how the whole plot would just fall without dobby, while harry thought his idea of saving him is killing him
Harry might very well drown attempting the second Triwizard Task (he's going to try if he thinks he needs to save Ron and Hermione even if he has no idea how to do it) if Barty Crouch Jr can't come up with another backup plan. He won't find out about the Room of Requirement, and so the DA is probably either discovered early on or never really gets off the ground. This results in Hermione, Ron, Ginny, Neville, Luna, and several other characters lacking critical skills,more than likely getting at least one of them killed if they still go to the Department of Mysteries, and greatly increasing the chance that they will die in the final book. Potentially, Harry and/or other DA members are expelled from Hogwarts (this could potentially get reversed the next year, though). And, of course, as already said, no Dobby significantly impacts how Harry handles the Kreacher situation, and no Dobby means no rescue from Malfoy Manor.
So basically, Prisoner of Azkaban is the ONLY book where Harry isn't screwed without Dobby there.
Actually I imagine Lockhart would need to cast "obligate" twice, once for Ron and once for Harry. In which case, if he starts with Ron, Harry might at least be able to save himself by disarming Lockhart and then knocking him out. Harry would then go and save Ginny and once Harry explains to Dumbledore what happened, Lockhart would get arrested and Ron would be sent to St Mungo's.
I think he would start with Harry, because he had his wand...
@@bennysundance175 I don't think Lockhart was that intelligent.
Well... For one thing it's "OBLIVIATE" not "obligate" and for another thing... I doubt the wand would have actually worked. Remember that according to Ollivander 'the wand chooses the wizard.' On that note, I seriously doubt that a wand that had only served the Weasleys who were all kind, honest, loyal and brave would switch allegiance to someone who is a fraud, sly and cunning like Lockhart. It just... doesn't make sense.
@@alinamagda2547 The wand worked in removing Lockhart's memories so I see no reason why it couldn't work on Harry and Ron. I guess it is possible that if the wand had chosen Ron (which it hadn't as it was a hand-me-down), then perhaps it might have refused to obliviate Ron and only worked on Harry.
Which then means Ron can't save Harry from drowning in book seven
Yes it does. Without the 1st time meeting then the bond between Harry and dobby is established for the future. Which means when the trio is captured in the forest they cant call him to help them escape.
I think in this video they were only talking about the chamber of secrets since he is important in deathly hallows
Ye duh they specify that
He could call Kreacher
Not only could he call kreacher, but also Harry’s not the one who calls dobby in the first place, aberforth is. Also I feel like the story might be a lot more interesting if when we see dobby at Malfoy manner he’s still owned by the Malfoys, and has an inner turmoil between his wizard family and his loyalty to the one who made the dark lord go away for the first time
@@gingersnap8543When in Deathly Hallows Dobby comes to rescue them, he is not owned by Malfoys. Harry tricks Lucius into freeing Dobby at the end of CoS itself. After that Dobby had been working at Hogwarts (taking salary and all). He went to rescue Harry because he thought of him as a friend.
The only reason they let Harry stay at the Burrow in Goblet of Fire is because Harry threatened to tell Sirius he was being mistreated. The Dursleys still believe Sirius is a murderer, Harry "conveniently" forgot to tell them he was innocent.
Edit: I get the point! The Durselys don't know Harry can't do magic, now will you all shut up about it
Well I'm not sure that was the ONLY reason - I mean he DOES have that internal battle J was talking about, and I think possibly the thought of saying no to Mr Weasly may have had the same effect on Uncle Vernon that Sirius does
@@samstromberg5593 Doubt it.
Yes, Vernon had the internal debate but it was Harry using Sirius as a threat that made Vernon come to a conclusion.
Plus if the Dursleys are going to Spain then Harry will need a place to stay cause they don't wanna take him or leave him home alone
Oh and plus I guess whether he stays with them or not doesn't make a huge difference, I think we can pretty safely assume that he reaches the train at the same time as them anyway cause that's what happens first year
@@Ollie.H-23 Well but my point is I think he could use Arthur as the same kind of threat in this case
@@samstromberg5593 Oh, if they're going to Spain, definitely
It’s a tragic irony that the one time Dobby does successfully save Harry ‘s life (on purpose) it costs him his life. 😢
I'd be really surprised by Ron's ability to take down dozens of huge spiders without considering his phobia!!..I think it was better if a fantastic beast save them now that we are improvising
It’s spelt PHobia😊
@@louisnstalley thanks.I'll be surprise if it's my only mistake!
We don’t know where to find a fantastic beast, though
@@ryanpratt6993 they are in the forbidden forest! how about a thestral or unicorn
I agree, I don’t see any way for Harry and Ron to fight their way out of this. If the car wasn’t there, someone/thing else would have to save them. Most likely the centaurs, perhaps Firenze follows Harry through the forest and goes to get the others when he sees where he and Ron are going, allowing them to arrive in the nick of time for a rescue. Given there’s already centaur rescues in PS and OotP, it would be very repetitive!
No, that's the middle of the road Ron's won breaks escaping a spider. And that means everything at the end happens the right way.
Great video as always. Here's my own what if to grease the gears of creativity: what if Hermione was sorted into Ravenclaw? She was almost (or is, I don't remember) a hatstall between that and Gryffindor. In the end the hat lead her one way, but what if it led to another? Onto a path where she might not even befriend the other two of the trio in the first place? Though I do admit Flitwick's class on Halloween was left ambiguous in the movies it was with Slytherin so there's a good chance the event that sends her off on the night of the troll attack just never even happens. Just an idea, because throughout all the years Hermione is a constant and present aid to the trio. Without her, what could happen?
I really like this idea. It would be cool if the Carlin Bros. pursued it.
Ooh that would be interesting 😮.
Assuming harry and ron survived up to the 3 year (which i belive its true thanks to some damb luck, i can elaborate) and assuming hermione still get the time turner in the third year (reasonable assumption) this is what will happen
In cannon, what happened is that dambledor saw harry cast a patronus to save himself, realised there was a time travel, realised sirius was innocent and thought of his plan
The exact same thing will happen here too, and because hermione is the only student with a time turner he will explain her the situation and ask for her help and she will agree
Now if a single troll was enough to make them friends, a full time travel adventure will also be enough
Now in the 4 year, haery will probably visit the ravenclaw common room a lot when he has his fight with ron, so he will see thestatue with the diadem so he may will recognize and destroy the diadem in the 6 year when he find it
If he do that, it will make a huge diffrent and prevent the entire battle of hogwarts, what will happened instead ? I can only guess
@@bluelemon243 A Hermione that was never friends with Ron and Harry is NOT going to break Wizarding Law just on a rushed explanation
There was no hatstall for Hermione. She said the hat did consider her for Ravenclaw, but in the end chose her to go to Gryffindor. A hat stall only occurs when the hat takes more than 5 minutes to place you. And by book, and movie accounts, she wasn't under the hat very long.
I’d love to see a theory on what if Harry and Ron decided not to be friends with Hermione. Her character provides so much exposition and moves the plot forward on many occasions.
Me too😊
I saw a comment on another video suggesting: what if Hermione had been killed by the troll in book 1? I always thought that would be awesome to tackle, but it might be too much.
@@staticradio724 I think that was me. I still support it.
Because she lets them copy her notes and homework, I think it would force them to become better students.
But Harry would probably get stuck at the Potions Riddle.
@@staticradio724 Honestly you don't have to kill her, just have her sorted into Ravenclaw, where surrounded by people intellectually tilted like her, she'd have a circle of friends, and thus is unlikely to interact with Harry and Ron, which honestly nobody gets the stone then. In that case, ironically Quirell remains possessed and the DADA teacher in year two, or Dumbledore just turns him in to prove Voldermort "survived".
Hmmm.... not really one of their usual ones that sticks near the script, but that would be an interesting timeline, of what happens if nobody gets to the stone.
If Harry and Ron escape the spiders there is no reason why Harry couldn't beat Lockhart down in the chamber knocking him into the wall and causing the cave in same as in the original story.
With the added bonus that Lockhart gets to answer for his crimes.
What if Frank and Alice Longbottom escape from Belletrix with their sanity intact?
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Nothing just no tragic backstory. Maybe nevelle would have more confidence earlier but that’s it
@@zbanul10 Also, the Longbottoms would be instrumental in the Second Wizarding War. Plus they might have caught Lucious Malfoy trying to slip the horcrux diary into Ginny's cauldron and thrwarted that plan.
"How can you be nearly boneless?"
That got me good, I was in a fit of laughter for a while! I had to pause the video to calm down 😂
I don’t think the horcrux inside of Harry would have let him die to spideys. Likely he would have produced some sort of OP magic like golden flames to save himself when near death. The only reason the basilisk venom would have killed him without Fawks intervention is because that destroys horcruxes. Every other time he’s been in real life or death situations his wand has produced a McMuffin to save him :3
Yes that is one possibility that is some way the Horcrux acts like the others and protects itself.
Ooh, this actually spawned a question for me. Presuming Harry and Ron get eaten by acromantulas, does the spare piece of Voldemort’s soul exist?
@@thomaszielke866 Given its destroyed when Harry dies to a death curse, Harry dying otherwise would still destroy it. Thus why the soul fragment would likely defend itself in some way as the most plausible survival rote.
I was under the impression the power from the horcrux only matters when he's facing Voldemort
@@Lo0serx3 It has a special power, between the two of them, but the other horcrux have also show ability to defend themselves from being destroyed.
Ron uses "Lumos Maxima" on the spiders, and with how scared he is, it is to powerful and damages his wand just enough that when Lockhart tries to memory wipe them it backfires on him.
In goblet of fire Vernon had a choice
make Harry miserable
or face the wrath of an escaped convict
If Vernon could've had Harry out of the house - gone - when those clients came over for dinner, he'd have jumped at the chance.
@@matthewpatrick7263 yes
But how does it effect the rest of the saga, like Harry never gets the gillyweed, they never find out about the room of requirement, and they never escape from Malfoy manor
There is no rest of the series unless there's some way to recover from magically induced memory loss, which as far as we know... there isn't. There's zero evidence to the contrary.
I think that the rest of the books wouldn’t happen as Voldemort returns two years earlier and then successfully takes over without Harry too stop him because he is spider food/mindless
Have you not seen the entire video? Harry is either dead or mindless and voldemort is back in book 2. Asking what about the gillyweed is pointless
I understand your question. Maybe with the horcrux in Harry destroyed by either spiders or Voldemort, the prophecy is broken and dumbledore is free to try take down Voldemort himself. Would he find all the horcruxes? Would he succeed? What about Sirius in Azkaban? Peter/scabbers? Snape? I know what you wanna hear
Makes you realize just how reckless Dumbledore was in hiring Lockhart and Hagrid was in telling them to follow the spiders.
Dumbledore was reckless countless times with his students especially Harry.
Well, Aragog was obviously good to Hagrid, so he thought he would be the same to Ron and Harry. I’m sure he’d be upset if Ron and Harry told him what the spiders tried to do.
@@SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333 hagrid never listened to anything like that when harry and his friends said the same thing about other creatures hagrid had, you really think he would believe it when they say it about hagrids oldest freind he knew for 50 years?
@@alexanderzack3720 If they told him that Aragog tried to actually kill them, yes.
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But what if the Order of the Phoenix had figured out the easiest and safest way to get Harry out of Privet Drive was for Dobby to take him?
Also Dobby wouldn’t give Harry the Gillyweed in Goblet of Fire, since he wouldn’t be at Hogwarts. He might still rescue them in Deathly Hallows, since he would still be a slave. If they had somehow managed to survive with their minds.
I think this is specifically just the second book
@@snippydaturtle *Especiallly if they don't even survive the second book.*
Given it was a set up by Barty Croutch Jr, he would have found another way to get Harry what he needs, since the plan falls apart if Harry starts so far behind he can't win the maze, or outright performs so poorly the professors decide by the end even though he's "competing" Harry is to just sit at the start of the maze for his own safety.
Can you do "What is Snape was in Gryfinndor" or maybe Draco. I feel like there could be a lot of interesting paths to explore.
I was about say something that involved people switching houses but i think that one was about Harry being in Slytherin.
@@ETPangilinan1 Yeah, they made a 8 part Harry in Slytherin series which I really liked so I’d love to see that sort of thing for other characters.
6:42 The reason Vernon agreed to let Harry go with the Weasleys to the Quidditch World Cup was because Harry threatened to let Sirius know he was being mistreated, and Vernon believed Sirius was a mass murderer at the time and agreed out of fear. In second year, Harry lacks that trump card and Vernon wouldn’t let him go. He didn’t even let Harry go to Hogwarts at first in the first book. To Vernon, keeping Harry unhappy and away from magic is more important than sending Harry away.
Heres an interesting what if. What if Mundungus didnt aperate away during the battle of the 7 potters?
We saw that one in Cursed Child. Moody would have been captured, tortured for information, under the impervious curse to steal from Gringotts
@@andeeharry what would they want him to steal?
@@johnconner9296 It has been a while since I read it, I can't remember
@@andeeharry no worries I was just curious
Dobey being the definition of “Task failed successfully.”
A scenario I think would be interesting is "What if Harry got the dementor's kiss in OOTP?" I wonder how dumbledore would react to harry, dudley and probably mrs figg getting the dementor's kiss
What if the Dementor only got Harry's Horcrux before something stops it?
yeah... great plan having harry guarded by a squib who is no help to anyone in case of an attack
@@alexanderzack3720Actually OOTP members were keeping watch on Harry secretly all the summer. That day it was Mundungus Fletcher's turn, who I don't remember exactly went to purchase some free cupcakes or something. Mrs Figg mentions to Harry that she would complain to Dumbledore about this.
@@shreyasjape1912 oh yes letting the coward and criminal keep guard against murderers and terrorist is MUCH better
I think the horcrux inside harry would have protected him, similar to how he produced golden flames to block Voldemort’s killing curse while unconscious in the battle of the seven potters.
This comes from Ben’s theory of the golden flames, I understand that dumbledore tells harry that his wand did this because of the graveyard battle but I prefer the explanation that the horcrux is protecting itself when presented with certain death.
(This doesn’t happen when harry sacrifices himself in the battle of hog warts because he is not holding his wand)
2:55 ayo thats me :)
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It’s amazing how there’s still solid and significant theories being explored
As a Lockhart Fan I see this what if as an absolute win
How do you like Lockhart! He's SO annoying!!!
You spelled Stan wrong. There are no Lockhart fans
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I agree!
Vernon's drill deal is almost definitely for exclusive supplier rights for a construction company rather than a single sale to an individual. I can't imagine a sinlge person spending enough on drills for themselves to justify buying a second house in a different country, but I can see it if it's for a company that might need hundreds of drills and drill accessories.
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8:38 Honestly that "you can have it downloaded before I'm done with this ad read" is a truly inspired endorsement.
If I didn't already have it installed, that might've convinced me. :P
Or what if Buckbeak comes to their rescue and flys them out of there, that would also set up Harry seeing Buckbeak later in PoA and why he is willing to let Harry ride him again.
he would be scared of arogog imo
I feel like Ron would know a spell to repel spiders considering it’s his biggest fear he might have looked into it
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Doby was there for character development and to be a loveable antagonist unintentionally (and to allow haveing a car save them and lockhearts thing)
The Irony is I forgot about Lockhart's memory charm, so when you gave the outside chance that Harry and Ron survived Aragog, I thought that Harry would have no idea what Dobby was doing when pointing at the diary and Lucius Malfoy. it would have been a minor change but it would have meant Dobby wouldn't have been freed (assuming Harry even knew how).
Here's an interesting Harry Potter What If, "What If Dudley was also a wizard?". Also I would want to know "What if Dudley and Harry were childhood friends/acted like an older brother to Harry?"
would love to see a what if for if Draco's attempts on Dumbledore's life killed Katie bell or Ron or both
They never would have though because Dumbledore always knew about it from the beginning, hence the whole thing with Snape.
Ron survives because of a bezoar thanks to harry if slughorn doesn't have one in his supply he would die.
Dumbledore had snape trying to figure out what draco was doing but draco was being secretive so it is possible he could accidentally kill the wrong person
@@alexpayne6753 Fair point. I feel like Dumbledore himself would have been more skeptical of any gifts given directly to himself, but yeah one ended up with Ron, so who knows....
Yeah im imagining dracos Character changes significantly if he kills someone considering he lowers his wand leading to either snape managing to secretly kill Dumbledore post locket retrieval or more of a decent for draco in a in for a penny in for a pound moment and he kills Dumbledore
“How could you be nearly boneless? Like this?” Highlight of the video 😂 13:17
I like that in Hogwarts Legacy they have you follow butterflies into the Forbidden Forest because Ron said that 😊
I missed that connection.
Was listening to the chamber of secrets the other day on audiobook and love your what if scenario videos.
At the beginning of the book she almost forgets her diary at home instead of taking it to school. This leads to one of a few scenarios where she forgets all about it due to the excitement of the first year of school:
She takes it to school with her on one of the other years after finding it whilst tidying her bedroom. I think prisoner of Azkaban makes the most sense but goblet of fire would be just as crazy ( and my favourite).
Dobby is a free elf
The Hermione-Velociraptor mashed up had me dying! Great breakdown of a "What If". I'm really enjoying these. This proves Dobby is a true hero, too, so even more excellent.
I used to watch you guys with my dad since the beginning and it makes me happy that you are still around after many years
No matter how many times you slip that Voldemort laugh into a video, it makes me LOL every single time.
I am surprised we are doing this one. Without Dobby, there would be no random cake dump, no bars on the windows, harry would be talking to his friends, no escape from locked room, Lucius Malfoy would have cursed Harry at the end of the Chamber, no locked metal gateway to the train, so no flying car, no Whomping Willow, no broken wand, no howler, no midnight meetings, no rescue from Malfoy Manner, he wouldn't have died, no Gillyweed.
Without Dobby having interfered, Harry wouldn't have tricked Lucius into freeing Dobby, if he'd even brought Dobby at all, (in part because he wouldn't have known how yet) so Lucius wouldn't have had any reason to try to curse Harry at the end.
And on top of all that, Harry’s friendship with Dobby caused him ALOT more emotional growth
*Yeah but if there's no flying car they just get eaten by spiders.*
@@mr.d8747 Nah, Harry would just Expelliarmous spell. sorry, can't spell it, you know the one I mean. He'd do his famous charm and he'd still live because of the Horcrux. He survived everything else.
@@andeeharry *It's hard to disarm an animal without any arms. Also, Harry isn't invincible, not even against Voldemort yet because he hasn't taken Harry's blood yet. It's explained well in Dumbledore's Big Plan - Prisoner of Azkaban. If Harry gets eaten by the spiders, both Harry and the horcrux inside him would die.*
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A world without DOOBY is no world at all
1. I agree! He's my favorite non-pet magical creature!
2. You spelt Dobby wrong.
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Gee, that "See Harry loves going to beach" clip was dark... I love it!
If dobby never interferes Harry and Ron are either eatan alive by giant spiders, or they're minds are erased, Voldemort comes back kills Harry.... Good job dobby?
When Lockhart tries cursing Ron his wand will backfire on him as the wand belongs to ron.
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Yeah as soon as i Saw the title i was like “But… they get eaten by spiders then. Right?”
He kinda did in the long run and he helped significantly in 7, once he was freed by Harry well in Dobby's interpretation Luscious, he was than free to do whatever he wanted from that point on, we just never got that perspective or story to what happened to him between 2 and his well you know. There is every possibility he was a guardian to Harry even if we didn't know it through the book/movie.
We got much more Dobby in the books. The movies decided to cut him basically til the end.
I love how Ron's first instinct to repair his super important magical item is to use completely ordinary tape with magical branding on it
Honestly, Harry would have probably been safer without him.
Superficially, yes. But I agree with the sentiment here. The car wouldn't be in the forest, which is the only reason they made it out, and Ron's wand wouldn't be broken, which was just rotten luck on Lockhart's part to grab that one.
Of course Ron having a functioning wand would come in clutch against the spiders, He let her stupify him, remember?
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What if snape survived would really have been a cool one, I feel like he'd despise harry naming his child after him 😂
16:06 Of all the jokes to get a callback I did not expect the Lav-Raptor!
I really hope someone watches this video first and has no context for that reference. 🤣
What if Dumbledore never hired Lockhart?
I’m not sure how much impact this would have on the story except for CoS being a bit shorter
This is an alternate beginning to Jennifer Craw.
I think a good new what if after this would be What If Dobby Never Came To The Rescue In Malfoy Manor. Would Harry and his friends still live? How far was Draco willing to go to defy Voldy after refusing to identify Harry? (The easy way out of this is Kreacher saving them but I think that's a bit too easy, don't you?)
i´m not sure if at that point they even know that kreacher is still alive. remember they never came back to grimauld because hermione accidently "told" a deatheater the secret so they could enter the place. they probably expected the deatheaters to raid the place and kill kreacher who tried to defend the home
@@alexanderzack3720 Exactly! Part of the reason why I dislike this being the easy answer to this What If
Maybe the Malfoys sent him to tell Harry not to come so Harry won't interfere with the plans.
Yes
Ehhh... Dobby seems genuinely loyal to Harry Potter multiple times throughout the series. And once he's already at the school, Dobby still visits him again. What would be their point in sending Dobby to the hospital wing in the middle of the night?
I think the reason that harry and ron didn't move or react when lockhart to rons wand is bc they knew it was broken and would backfire at lockhart
I’ve never clicked on a video so fast.
Same
Okay but I could see a really cool story of the entire wizarding world trying to protect brain-dead Harry in a giant keepaway game with voldey
Ayo i said this ages ago
I understand the spider and no car problem, but if Ron's wand isn't broken, he probably had at least a chance to be better in the dueling club, so giving him the benefit of the doubt seems reasonable, despite Lockheart's ineptitude.
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Great video, guys! It leaves you thinking that no matter if you fail at what you are trying to do, it is very important that you do it. You never know in what way it will work out for you in the end. Dobby is a hero.
SuperCarlinBrothers: "DOBBY MAKES NO DIFFERENCE?!"
Me: First of all, how dare you.
Second of all, *HOW DARE YOU!!!*
4:48 Technically, that only happens in the movie. In the book, Dobby just drops it in a big crash onto the kitchen floor making it splatter everywhere.
“The Boy Who Lived….Until He Was Eaten By Giant Spiders.” Lol! 😂😂 That was pretty freaking funny
Dobby got harry and the others out of tbe malfoy basement when they had no other way out.
Also, Colin wouldn’t have been prettified at all, since he was only going to the hospital wing to see Harry, so no Dobby means no Lockhart removing Harrys bones means no hospital wing for Harry and no Colin sneaking down to see him.
Idea: what if bodycroutch got to dumbledoor and told him evrything
You forget that Ron's wand would be so weak by that point that it would barely work because then it would be a third generation wizard owner with that specific wand
Hmmmmm
Won Won raptor is one of the best edits I have seen in a long time
The Chamber of Secrets: In Which Dobby tries to Save Harry Potter on purpose but instead ends up accidentally saving Harry Potter.
In this case, Harry starts arguing with Arogog, but suddenly it’s in Parsel Tongue.
Arogog realizes that he is the Heir of Slytherin, or so he thinks, and now knows that if for any reason the “Friend’s of Hagrid” don’t return to the castle, the Basilisk WILL COME LOOKING FOR THEM. 😎
“Children, calm yourself. Good bye friends of Hagrid, take your leave and give Hagrid my best.”
Harry and Ron depart, and Ron calls Harry out for being a Parsel mouth.
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Dobby: *Doesnt interfere with Harry's life!*
Aragog: GG Bro!
So remember Harry starts running when Lockhart uses the obliviate curse? So there is a possibility Harry misses the curse but Ron gets the full impact of it. Which means we need a whole 7 part series of 'What if there was no Ron?' :-P
6:45 Uh, not quite. There’s one thing you’re overlooking: Sirius. Harry didn’t tell the Dursley’s that Sirius wasn’t a criminal, but he did tell them that he was his godfather. Thus, the Dursley’s were terrified that Sirius would show up and turn them into bats if Harry gave the command. That morning was the morning Harry’s scar hurt after the vision of Voldemort killing Frank Bryce, and he was writing a letter to Sirius to relay the news. Only after Harry said that he was writing to Sirius did Vernon give Harry permission to go to the Quidditch World Cup.
In this situation, Harry doesn’t know Sirius exists, so that ace isn’t in his sleeve. I would imagine the Dursley’s would be terrified about a family of 9 wizards coming to pick Harry up, but I doubt they’d let him go without at least a fight.
I have another what if idea...What if Dumbledore was the minister for magic instead of Hogwarts headmaster?
If he NEVER interfered in the deathly hallows they would be thoroughly screwed.
19:50 Would Harry actually lose his mind? He cheats death, throws off the imperious curse, can't be manipulated or processed, isn't turned into a that creature thing if some magical person had thier magic suppressed....you really think Lockhart would succeed? I doubt it, not with Lilly's sacrifice and Voldemort's Shard. It wouldn't be permanently, or it wouldn't phase him at all. I can't say the same for Ron, but Harry would come out unharmed. Yes, okay, Diary Voldemort would return stronger, but he wouldn't be able to leave the pages, since he is just a memory. Which maeans that the diary would be very dangerous, and would behave like the other Horcruxes. It would just take longer to destroy.