@@Raheempc does your sperm come from your back Bone and the sperm of your sister does it come from her ribs That s the knowledge of your stone god How can you believe in such a fake god
I feel so happy listening to 2 white Muslims talks about prophet Mohammad pbuh with so much enthusiasm. May Allah bless you both and make you a source for non Muslim to accept Islam.
There is no such thing in Islam as white Muslims… there is just Muslims, converts, reverts or in this case British Muslims. Color labels are invention of Kufar to separate humanity and create “elitist “ categories to play on it when its needed.
@@MUZLIM1234 First of all, are their Islamic teachings really referring to the earliest and most reliable Muslim historians, who based their writings on those who actually knew their prophet? I do not mean information from modern Islamic scholars today but from the historical compilations of Ibn Ishaq (compiled by Ibn Hisham), al-Tabari, Bukhari and Sahih Muslim which are highly respected in the Muslim academic community as an invaluable source of biographical information and original details of Islamic teachings. The Quran distributed by CAIR, Muhammad Asad's "The Message of the Quran," should be avoided by serious inquirers because it is the 20th century Quran with Westernized translation that manipulates the naive by changing the wording of unflattering verse and offering mitigating commentary to convince the American readers. This has left the impression that the Quran is full of verses of universal peace, tolerance and brotherhood. The exceptions are embedded in context with obvious constraints blinding their eyes to see and to know the real thing. Muhammad's own martial legacy, along with the remarkable emphasis on violence found in the Quran, have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history even until today.
You are such a jahil and make a point out of it. If you were not this ignorant you would know that white people were becoming Muslims in the first century of Islam.
This is such a great interview with a fascinating expert who clearly loves our holy prophet saaw so much and I learned a new approach to our sources can shine new light on even things we assumed we fully understood.
Prof. Joel always enriches us with his deep knowledge stemming from a careful and objective study of history. His information and studies are valuable to both Arabs and non-Arabs.
I am not a Muslim, but I like to enter Islam. There are several reasons that made me love Islam. They are that Islam urges the Muslim to be clean and purity, and commands the Muslim not to steal and not to wrong anyone. There are studies that say that Muslims are less likely to commit suicide, and this indicates that Muslims are happy
This is one of the very best talks I have ever heard about the historicity and life of the Holy Prophet peace be upon him. Traditionalists who have never wrestled with the sources won't like everything he says, but he is responsible and reasonable. I loved this.
And Professor Joel Hayward never said "bribed". He said the Holy Prophet peace be upon him used the greed that some people had as a means of drawing them into a place where they could, inside the tent (so to speak), hear and be transformed by Allah SWT's powerful message
@@TheWatchmanWebsite You are really not happy that former Christians are embracing Islam and talking about this beautiful religion in the most beautiful way. Don't be resentful. Give up your thoughtless hatred of Islam and instead follow in the footsteps of your brothers, ex-Christians. May Allah the Almighty guide you.
98:6 “From among the followers of earlier revelation or from among those who ascribe divinity to aught beside God - will find themselves in the fire of hell, therein to abide: they are the worst of all creatures.”@@zakariadjebbour1769
This felt like I had my head resting in my grandmother's lap and she was telling me a beautiful story before bed time. Thank you for this beautiful gift. Much love and peace to you and your guest.
Paul - thank you so much for hosting this insightful discussion. I probably would've never heard of Dr. Joel Hayward were it not for this podcast episode. His work looks incredibly interesting and original.
This is a fantastic talk by a fantastic expert. A lot of it is new to me, and I read a lot of Sirah, but I admire his desire for truth and I'm glad to have him as a brother in Islam
What an amazing session! this kind of scholarly , critical approach is much needed today, as prof. Joel mentioned, there is not much a non-Muslim can appreciate from the scarelised seerah of ours, we need to demystify the Prohet and present him as a real, concrete figure to be emulated in our times.
Unlike Christian’s we don’t change our religion to suit others and if u read the Quran you will understand that the Jews and the Christian will never be pleased with you unless you follow their way/creed/religion so stick to your Islam if you want to be a winner and quit falsifying your history religion to please the disbelievers
@El-Ḥaakim be-Amr Allāh Then he has a duty to question him, ask for his alleged evidence, or at least place a disclaimer on the video; surely not everyone with an opinion is valid or deserve an uncontested platform
With due respect, this guest pretend to be a qualified historian, however all he does is give none muslim sources credibility, and casts all doubts about the Muslim sources and the Seerah from it's roots! Very improfessional and bias approach. And who's muslim that care about none-muslims sources says about the messenger of Allah? I hope he read this friendly message and fix his approach.
Dear Fact explained and all, I wrote in another post this, "Since he is so impartial on the earlier sources (sirah etc) which we muslims are taught not to trust 100% , why he gives such a weigh to info about the life of the prophet pbuh from other indirect Muslim books such Taxation books which were written way after Prophet's time.. is not that, unknowingly, a kind of research bias ( look what I found through my research!) 2. No one said "there were exactly 10,000 men to enter Mecca). And the guest, may God be pleased with him, forgot an important factor that many of the sources, hadiths, and practice of the Prophets were alive and well, hadith collections was at that date, but it was written in different medium, prophets actions and the way he worshiped was immitate by people, or did muslim stopped praying until the hadith collection was written ? of course not, the Sirah books draws from it and from other sources. 3. Also there were no Christians we know of in Mecca, south of Arabia yes.. Medina some jews but I doubt they were the majority... nor I have ever heard that that the cities above it were Jewish towns!! till sham (syeria)!!!!! no. In addition, the fact it is GRAVE Very GRAVE sin to add and delete from the Sunnah, minimize the errors, and the lies.. it would not eradicate it but certainly minimize it, and scholars have critique the sirah themselves.. they warns against some of the stories there. That was done long time ago. And no, the artifacts we discovers may not shed light on Prophet teaching to induce us to re write the Sirah 1400 years after.. unless on aspect of trades or minor details.. tools, artifacts will not give much insight of immaterial aspect such as personality of a historical figure, charisma or his teaching.. not at all.. , they are tools they may give light on human sophistication in tools making, on trade.. etc.. but not immaterial side of human figure.... unless you unearth major old books or scroll attributed without a shadow of doubt to great Muslim writers, (imagine we did not have Sirah books and now it is unearth, it does not mean it would be 100% factual)
@@sutil5078 Yes, this guy pretending to be a historian in Islam, however his knowledge is bellow acceptable, neither he speak Arabic which enables him to understand the rich Islamic sources, he cannot even pronounce names correctly 🙄 Big disappointment in this guest.
I agree, he mistakenly gives huge credit for non muslim sources.. So much catering for non muslims for no reason other than (if non muslims said something good about islam that must be true) at many instance in the video I was doubting if he is doubting, he was casting doubts many times.. When you research a topic in certain region (1400 years ago) non native take on the subject can't possibly be of huge value especially as you pointed out he does not even have access to the source, he does not speak Arabic well!! I mean a casual research to learn about islam when he see what this man say..and some muslims validate what he say (just because he is a revert) he will be left with doubts! Many many old scholars have said Sirah is not accurate 100% . He mistakenly overestimate his knoweldge because as non native he compare his knoweldge to non native Muslims.. when most of what he said is not new!! Yet hint that Christianity as almost equivalent in trustworthiness yet the bible accounts are made by non eyewitness who were anonymous writers said by Top christian scholars!!!) so bible is not even a match to Sirah (a third tear source!!) Even some muslims here fall for the same mistake (wow he knows a lot ) but that is true he knows a lot (for average non native non Muslim people) where is the rigor of scholarly judgement here!! Actually if I talk straight this video does not give justice to Islamic rigorous sources and I had feeling from the uploader face, he was disappointed too judging from his gestures (a lot for a UK person) but that is my guess. God knows best. May God grant him more knoweldge and wisdom and you and me and all ameen.. thanks for your comment brother.
quran is copied from Christian hyms ( the PROTOTYPE QURAN) before vowels were added, muslims are bathed in ignorance by there masters , its time for muslims to take control of there own minds and GET KNOWLEDGE!!!! th-cam.com/video/dJnnicnZkUc/w-d-xo.html
Alhamdhulillah Allah chose you both for a reason and may almighty bless you both with health and long life to do this excellent job to prevail the truth
this is so fresh....being true to history and the scholarship of history doesnt include making excuses for the Prophet saw....and romantising the Prophets challenges takes away from his divinely guided triumphs esp in politics...management...leadership. Thank you Prof Hayward and Paul for this inspirational session...i am motivated to read that book on the Prophet and War...In Syaa Allah
Lovely aslm looking forward to hearing more and reading ur bk on The Nabi saw and diplomacy! Remarkable that u chose to write about that! I find myself often stunned by the simplicity of his reaction in word and kind to whatever he encountered! Shukran!
I really enjoy when scholars present the prophet (S.A.W) as a human instead of a superficial being(which tbh is common). He was an outstanding person because of his character, humility and his understanding of people. His great leadership!!!To me he is more relatable that way and my admiration peaks when I ponder him that way. I enjoyed every minute of this episode!!! Masha Allah
BEAUTIFUL discussion. At the start, I really didn't know whether I would enjoy it, but WOW was this an amazing and very beneficial discussion. I really appreiciate his passion to advance the rational approach to the Seerah.
What a lovely man, may Allah bless you Joel and give you happiness, bliss and many more interesting historical findings that you can share with us inshallah 🙏
Salam Paul, I absolutely feel spiritually fulfilled listening to you. And in this episode Professor Joel Hayward really puts it in perspective how the scholarly sources have to be balanced with beliefs in order to arrive at a hypothesis. Loved it.
Why is this talk so short, really, wanted to listen more. Excellent. May Allah bless you both, and especially you Paul. His books as audiobooks in Professor's own voice would be on another level. Wish that happens, insha Allah
Assalam Alaykum brother Paul and brother Prof Joel. I was almost moved to tears several times during this discussion at the nature of our Prophet (peace be upon him) and also the humbleness of Prof Joel and all the great work he is doing. Insha'Allah that work will ultimately lead many non Muslims to view our Prophet in a different light, and insha'Allah to become Muslims themselves. May Allah SWT bless Prof Joel and you brother Paul. 🤲🏼🤲🏽
Islam is a fake counterfeit religion of the devil, mohammad met devil in heera cave, he was possessed by demons or jinn of sexual perversion, Khadija tested whether it is an angel or devil, by showing her pussy, so the devil tricked her by hiding, she did not see allah nor the demon or jebreel all were in mohmmad's head , mohammad was bewitched by a jewish man so he had so much hallucinations and crazy feelings, some times he even said he had sex with his wives but he did not, mohammad died of poison that proves he was a fake prophet according to his own words and by the narrations of Aysha his child wife. Look at the character of mohammaad , he was a pedophile, sexaholic psychopath, his allah is a filthy demon of sexual perversions and fertility , that is not the charactor God of Abraham or Ishmael or Jacob or Moses or Jesus will approve, he broke all commandments, he was an adulterer, a murderer, rapist, pedophile, robbery was his hobby, satan put words in his mouth or mind ..he used to have episodes of epileptic or demonic manifestations, falling down, foams come in his his mouth, shivering shaking ...that is devilish, allah gave hims sex food to achieve forty men's sexual power ..for what ? so allah is the same demon. of fertility and sexual immorality, kaaba is the center of demon worship, allah is a phallic idol , the black stone kissing is allah's daughter Al Latts vagina. overall Islam is a filthy cult. Quran is filthy, mohaammad was a psychopath and filthy sex prophet.
Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarokaatuh. Congratulations Paul and guest professor. Always amazing intellectual discussion. May Allah bless you all always.
Islam is a fake counterfeit religion of the devil, mohammad met devil in heera cave, he was possessed by demons or jinn of sexual perversion, Khadija tested whether it is an angel or devil, by showing her pussy, so the devil tricked her by hiding, she did not see allah nor the demon or jebreel all were in mohmmad's head , mohammad was bewitched by a jewish man so he had so much hallucinations and crazy feelings, some times he even said he had sex with his wives but he did not, mohammad died of poison that proves he was a fake prophet according to his own words and by the narrations of Aysha his child wife. Look at the character of mohammaad , he was a pedophile, sexaholic psychopath, his allah is a filthy demon of sexual perversions and fertility , that is not the charactor God of Abraham or Ishmael or Jacob or Moses or Jesus will approve, he broke all commandments, he was an adulterer, a murderer, rapist, pedophile, robbery was his hobby, satan put words in his mouth or mind ..he used to have episodes of epileptic or demonic manifestations, falling down, foams come in his his mouth, shivering shaking ...that is devilish, allah gave hims sex food to achieve forty men's sexual power ..for what ? so allah is the same demon. of fertility and sexual immorality, kaaba is the center of demon worship, allah is a phallic idol , the black stone kissing is allah's daughter Al Latts vagina. overall Islam is a filthy cult. Quran is filthy, mohaammad was a psychopath and filthy sex prophet.
ما شاء اللّٰه he has good pleasing voice .. and a wonderful way of telling the his.story of the prophet .. and a fresh outlook and knowledge of the history of prophet Muhammad s.a.w. I hope he will create a youtube channel to share his knowledge to a watching&listening audience
Professor Hayward is both very impressive and very inspiring. I found his descriptions and explanations of the Prophet extremely interesting and, at times, also extremely moving. Such a fascinating discussion. A big thank you.
quran is copied from Christian hyms ( the PROTOTYPE QURAN) before vowels were added, muslims are bathed in ignorance by there masters , its time for muslims to take control of there own minds and GET KNOWLEDGE!!!! th-cam.com/video/dJnnicnZkUc/w-d-xo.html
Thanks Paul for inviting Prof. Joel Hayward. Truly enjoyed listening to very informative talk during my morning walk in the park. And looking forward to reading his books on Prophet's Leadership and Diplomacy. May Allah bless you and Prof Joel Hayward always !
A wonderful interview. I liked the idea of the blessed Prophet saw reffered to as the distributer of tangible goods. The blessed Prophet was also the distributer of Allah's devine blessings upon the creation.
Thank you for this thoughtful discussion around the life of the Prophet. Just purchased Dr. Hayward's book on the 'Leadership of Muhammad' and look forward to reading it. I think all Muslims seek to understand the Prophet as a means to be closer to him and model his good behavior. It's always exciting to gain further incites about him - both as man and Prophet of God.
I think the Hadith below applies to you and your guest, my brother. It applies to you because I found you honest in presenting information when you started this channel. And I think that it applies to your guest because he likes to return the favor no matter how long it costs him, it seems that this characteristic was in him even before his conversion to Islam. It is clear that he intends not to stop responding to God's favor after guiding him to Islam that he will continue his writings on Islam to let more people know about it. the beautiful thing is that at the end of the hadith the Messenger, may God bless him and grant him peace, specify who he meant by his saying, “ if they comprehend,” and this applies to both of you and to many of those who reverted to Islam by studying it. Although I was born a Muslim, I learned many things from those who reverted to Islam, and this is because of their in-depth study of Islam, and also Allah increases their knowledge by opening doors of knowledge that He did not give to those who were born Muslims. Praise be to Allah, Lord of the worlds, for the blessing of Islam. Narrated Abu Huraira: Some people asked the Prophet: "Who is the most honorable amongst the people?" He replied, "The most honorable among them is the one who is the most Allah-fearing." They said, "O Allah's Prophet! We do not ask about this." He said, "Then the most honorable person is Joseph, Allah's Prophet, the son of Allah's Prophet, the son of Allah's Prophet, the son of Allah's Khalil." They said, "We do not ask about this." He said, "Then you want to ask me about the Arabs' descent?" They said, "Yes." He said, "Those who were best in the pre-lslamic period, are the best in Islam if they comprehend (the religious knowledge). sunnah.com/bukhari:3374
Please invite Muhammad Tim Humble,(A student of knowledge) for an interview as well with this very same topic of Discussion or another Topic of Discussion but with this topic included in it.
quran is copied from Christian hyms ( the PROTOTYPE QURAN) before vowels were added, muslims are bathed in ignorance by there masters , its time for muslims to take control of there own minds and GET KNOWLEDGE!!!! th-cam.com/video/dJnnicnZkUc/w-d-xo.html
Great guest and a very unique perspective on the life of the Prophet SAWW. I have always been baffled by the historical take on the life of the Prophet SAWW and why the Hadith and other similar works are disregarded. However, this discussion does give a better insight into the matter. Paul, if will be great to understand from the sheikh specifically how some of the Islamic sources are viewed historically and allow us a view of the Islamic vs Western view on what sources are acceptable. It is also important to know the historical understanding of oral traditions.
Islam is a fake counterfeit religion of the devil, mohammad met devil in heera cave, he was possessed by demons or jinn of sexual perversion, Khadija tested whether it is an angel or devil, by showing her pussy, so the devil tricked her by hiding, she did not see allah nor the demon or jebreel all were in mohmmad's head , mohammad was bewitched by a jewish man so he had so much hallucinations and crazy feelings, some times he even said he had sex with his wives but he did not, mohammad died of poison that proves he was a fake prophet according to his own words and by the narrations of Aysha his child wife. Look at the character of mohammaad , he was a pedophile, sexaholic psychopath, his allah is a filthy demon of sexual perversions and fertility , that is not the charactor God of Abraham or Ishmael or Jacob or Moses or Jesus will approve, he broke all commandments, he was an adulterer, a murderer, rapist, pedophile, robbery was his hobby, satan put words in his mouth or mind ..he used to have episodes of epileptic or demonic manifestations, falling down, foams come in his his mouth, shivering shaking ...that is devilish, allah gave hims sex food to achieve forty men's sexual power ..for what ? so allah is the same demon. of fertility and sexual immorality, kaaba is the center of demon worship, allah is a phallic idol , the black stone kissing is allah's daughter Al Latts vagina. overall Islam is a filthy cult. Quran is filthy, mohaammad was a psychopath and filthy sex prophet.
quran is copied from Christian hyms ( the PROTOTYPE QURAN) before vowels were added, muslims are bathed in ignorance by there masters , its time for muslims to take control of there own minds and GET KNOWLEDGE!!!! th-cam.com/video/dJnnicnZkUc/w-d-xo.html
@@JewelsRoyale we need to understand them to refute them. Historical approach is flawed for Muslim history. It assumption don't work for early Islamic societies. And unless we know those assumptions, we cannot refute them.
As a scholar, he is on point. The way in which he gives clear explanations of the history of Muhammad ( صلى الله عليه وسلم ) is respectful, enlightening and straight forward.
don’t throw around the term “scholar” so lightly. The likes of Sheikh Ibn Uthaymeen was a scholar. Not everyone who speaks about Islam is a scholar. Maybe a little studied.
a person who attends a school or studies under a teacher : pupil. 2a : a person who has done advanced study in a special field. b : a learned person. 3 : a holder of a scholarship I hope my answer is adequate
@@INJEEL_1028 Whatever the “official” definition is , whether its the oxford definition or otherwise, Islamically speaking, the term is used for someone of the likes of Sheikh bin Baaz, or Sheikh Ibn Uthaymeen, Or someone the likes of Ibn Taymiyyah. These men were scholars. They were not simply people “who studied in a school” or men who “done advanced study” rather they were people who’s knowledge was above and beyond most. If we used to the term like the definition you have presented us with, then we would have an incredible amount of scholars! But that is not the case. The scholars are few in our time, and they are given this title because they are worthy , and we can seek knowledge from them. And they speak the truth, we don’t have to worry if they are telling us nonsense. but if you are talking literally, and about the english word for it, then yes you may be correct. But In Islam, in arabic, we dont throw around the term عالم
Two White, Caucasian, British Muslims talking passionately about the Prophet SAW. No divisions, Islam makes us all equal brothers. Day made!
There is no white and black Muslim in Islam
Extremely engaging, balanced and well informed
Best expert. Host him again
I am muslim by birth yet you guys has more knowledge than I do, Thank you for sharing this.
Do they know in jana all m'en shall have an endless penis
It sounds silly no
May Allah subhannahu wa Ta3ala increase your and every Muslim's knowledge,Ameen! 💪🏽❤️
@@Raheempc does your sperm come from your back Bone and the sperm of your sister does it come from her ribs
That s the knowledge of your stone god
How can you believe in such a fake god
They're inspired by friends of Almighty auliya Allah read gain knowledge reading the books of auliya Allah.
shame on you
I feel so happy listening to 2 white Muslims talks about prophet Mohammad pbuh with so much enthusiasm. May Allah bless you both and make you a source for non Muslim to accept Islam.
There is no such thing in Islam as white Muslims… there is just Muslims, converts, reverts or in this case British Muslims.
Color labels are invention of Kufar to separate humanity and create “elitist “ categories to play on it when its needed.
Ameen!
@@MUZLIM1234 First of all, are their Islamic teachings really referring to the earliest and most reliable Muslim historians, who based their writings on those who actually knew their prophet? I do not mean information from modern Islamic scholars today but from the historical compilations of Ibn Ishaq (compiled by Ibn Hisham), al-Tabari, Bukhari and Sahih Muslim which are highly respected in the Muslim academic community as an invaluable source of biographical information and original details of Islamic teachings.
The Quran distributed by CAIR, Muhammad Asad's "The Message of the Quran," should be avoided by serious inquirers because it is the 20th century Quran with Westernized translation that manipulates the naive by changing the wording of unflattering verse and offering mitigating commentary to convince the American readers. This has left the impression that the Quran is full of verses of universal peace, tolerance and brotherhood. The exceptions are embedded in context with obvious constraints blinding their eyes to see and to know the real thing. Muhammad's own martial legacy, along with the remarkable emphasis on violence found in the Quran, have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history even until today.
You are such a jahil and make a point out of it. If you were not this ignorant you would know that white people were becoming Muslims in the first century of Islam.
@@MUZLIM1234 You have accepted racial talk. Shame on you.
This is such a great interview with a fascinating expert who clearly loves our holy prophet saaw so much and I learned a new approach to our sources can shine new light on even things we assumed we fully understood.
Prof. Joel always enriches us with his deep knowledge stemming from a careful and objective study of history. His information and studies are valuable to both Arabs and non-Arabs.
I am not a Muslim, but I like to enter Islam. There are several reasons that made me love Islam. They are that Islam urges the Muslim to be clean and purity, and commands the Muslim not to steal and not to wrong anyone. There are studies that say that Muslims are less likely to commit suicide, and this indicates that Muslims are happy
@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 Juses is not god but he is the massenger of god
May God guide you and give you happiness too. 🌹
Doesn't Christianity urge you the same?
@@muslim4226 What do you mean... that Christianity urges you to steal, and to be unclean and unpure?
@@tombuddy100 No but we did not follow it
Watched three videos by this prof. I like his approach a lot. Inspired.
A true expert. Really inspiring
Wonderful wonderful wonderful. What a great conversation. Truly heart warming. Remain forever blessed brothers. Ameen
Dr Hayward taught me new things and seems a very sincere scholar. He is on Terron Poole's channel too. Very clear and persuasive guy
Watched this for a second time. Bravo Prof Hayward. Deeply enriching
Such an interesting and informative interview. The professor is right in his approach
May Allah bless both Prof.Dr. Joel Hayward and Paul Williams.
May Allah bless you more for your Niyyâh Brother Prof. Joel Hayward and Brother Paul!
Fantastic expert who taught me a lot. Ask him back
Another beautiful discussion. Thank you brother Paul for bringing in intellectual academic. The lesson learned is priceless.
I strongly agree with Professor Hayward's approach to understanding the Prophet (PBUH) in a way that anyone can learn from, whether a believer or not.
The Grand Poobah!
I cant wait to read his book, he is so humble and cant get enough listening to him.
This is one of the very best talks I have ever heard about the historicity and life of the Holy Prophet peace be upon him. Traditionalists who have never wrestled with the sources won't like everything he says, but he is responsible and reasonable. I loved this.
And Professor Joel Hayward never said "bribed". He said the Holy Prophet peace be upon him used the greed that some people had as a means of drawing them into a place where they could, inside the tent (so to speak), hear and be transformed by Allah SWT's powerful message
Superb guest with a humble manner and rich knowledge
The best interview ever by this great scholar
Definitely opened my mind on a range of topics regarding our prophet pbuh. Great discussion as always paul.
Your false prophet was a pédophile
@@TheWatchmanWebsite Hahaha! Hahaha! Hahaha!
@@TheWatchmanWebsite really good joke
@@TheWatchmanWebsite
You are really not happy that former Christians are embracing Islam and talking about this beautiful religion in the most beautiful way.
Don't be resentful. Give up your thoughtless hatred of Islam and instead follow in the footsteps of your brothers, ex-Christians.
May Allah the Almighty guide you.
98:6 “From among the followers of earlier revelation or from among those who ascribe divinity to aught beside God - will find themselves in the fire of hell, therein to abide: they are the worst of all creatures.”@@zakariadjebbour1769
This felt like I had my head resting in my grandmother's lap and she was telling me a beautiful story before bed time. Thank you for this beautiful gift. Much love and peace to you and your guest.
May Allah reward professor Joel Hayward’s efforts and work in this world and the hereafter. We are all benefiting from his work inshallah 👍🏾
Egypt is a Coptic Christian country.
Ameen
This interview is so good that I cried❤
JazaakumuLLah Khayran Sirs, I am truly grateful
Paul - thank you so much for hosting this insightful discussion. I probably would've never heard of Dr. Joel Hayward were it not for this podcast episode. His work looks incredibly interesting and original.
This is a fantastic talk by a fantastic expert. A lot of it is new to me, and I read a lot of Sirah, but I admire his desire for truth and I'm glad to have him as a brother in Islam
This professor is an ocean of knowledge. I think I can listen to him for hours. Once again thanks to a fascinating discussion
Such a humble man! A great interview. Can't wait for more from Prof Joel.
@El-Ḥaakim be-Amr Allāh ?
@El-Ḥaakim be-Amr Allāh Look at yourself first bro, why do you have Allah azzawajal’s name in your name own name? Astaghfirullah
@El-Ḥaakim be-Amr Allāh Yes the meaning is good, but why would u use it as your name on YT?
Wow mash Allah superb podcast
May Allah bless you, guide you, preserve you and infuse knowledge and wisdom in your works and endeavors.
Ameen 🤲🏽 آمين يارب العالمين
Racists!
Ameen
I'm really looking forward to reading these books of Professor Joel. Thank u ❤️
Joel was my uni lecturer back in the day. Very inspiring guy.
Finally finished watching this (over three evenings). Fantastic. I learned a lot from Joel Hayward
What an amazing session! this kind of scholarly , critical approach is much needed today, as prof. Joel mentioned, there is not much a non-Muslim can appreciate from the scarelised seerah of ours, we need to demystify the Prohet and present him as a real, concrete figure to be emulated in our times.
Unlike Christian’s we don’t change our religion to suit others and if u read the Quran you will understand that the Jews and the Christian will never be pleased with you unless you follow their way/creed/religion so stick to your Islam if you want to be a winner and quit falsifying your history religion to please the disbelievers
@El-Ḥaakim be-Amr Allāh I am starting to think this is the purpose of this channel, mix and match and try to put poison in the honey
@El-Ḥaakim be-Amr Allāh Then he has a duty to question him, ask for his alleged evidence, or at least place a disclaimer on the video; surely not everyone with an opinion is valid or deserve an uncontested platform
@El-Ḥaakim be-Amr Allāh I may have missed something what kind of views does Joel have that is bothering you?
Brothers and kindred spirits, God bless you both.
Fascinating discussion alhamduillah. Thank you for sharing!
He comes across such a gentle, kind soul. Thoroughly enjoyed listening to this and look forward to many more from him, insha'Allah.
Wonderful discussion.
I really enjoyed listening to Professor Hayward. Please invite him again, Paul. He opened my eyes to a new angle of reading the sirah.
I enjoyed this too!
With due respect, this guest pretend to be a qualified historian, however all he does is give none muslim sources credibility, and casts all doubts about the Muslim sources and the Seerah from it's roots! Very improfessional and bias approach.
And who's muslim that care about none-muslims sources says about the messenger of Allah?
I hope he read this friendly message and fix his approach.
Dear Fact explained and all, I wrote in another post this, "Since he is so impartial on the earlier sources (sirah etc) which we muslims are taught not to trust 100% , why he gives such a weigh to info about the life of the prophet pbuh from other indirect Muslim books such Taxation books which were written way after Prophet's time.. is not that, unknowingly, a kind of research bias ( look what I found through my research!)
2. No one said "there were exactly 10,000 men to enter Mecca). And the guest, may God be pleased with him, forgot an important factor that many of the sources, hadiths, and practice of the Prophets were alive and well, hadith collections was at that date, but it was written in different medium, prophets actions and the way he worshiped was immitate by people, or did muslim stopped praying until the hadith collection was written ? of course not, the Sirah books draws from it and from other sources.
3. Also there were no Christians we know of in Mecca, south of Arabia yes.. Medina some jews but I doubt they were the majority... nor I have ever heard that that the cities above it were Jewish towns!! till sham (syeria)!!!!! no.
In addition, the fact it is GRAVE Very GRAVE sin to add and delete from the Sunnah, minimize the errors, and the lies.. it would not eradicate it but certainly minimize it, and scholars have critique the sirah themselves.. they warns against some of the stories there. That was done long time ago.
And no, the artifacts we discovers may not shed light on Prophet teaching to induce us to re write the Sirah 1400 years after.. unless on aspect of trades or minor details.. tools, artifacts will not give much insight of immaterial aspect such as personality of a historical figure, charisma or his teaching.. not at all.. , they are tools they may give light on human sophistication in tools making, on trade.. etc.. but not immaterial side of human figure.... unless you unearth major old books or scroll attributed without a shadow of doubt to great Muslim writers, (imagine we did not have Sirah books and now it is unearth, it does not mean it would be 100% factual)
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Yes, this guy pretending to be a historian in Islam, however his knowledge is bellow acceptable, neither he speak Arabic which enables him to understand the rich Islamic sources, he cannot even pronounce names correctly 🙄
Big disappointment in this guest.
I agree, he mistakenly gives huge credit for non muslim sources.. So much catering for non muslims for no reason other than (if non muslims said something good about islam that must be true) at many instance in the video I was doubting if he is doubting, he was casting doubts many times.. When you research a topic in certain region (1400 years ago) non native take on the subject can't possibly be of huge value especially as you pointed out he does not even have access to the source, he does not speak Arabic well!!
I mean a casual research to learn about islam when he see what this man say..and some muslims validate what he say (just because he is a revert) he will be left with doubts!
Many many old scholars have said Sirah is not accurate 100% . He mistakenly overestimate his knoweldge because as non native he compare his knoweldge to non native Muslims.. when most of what he said is not new!! Yet hint that Christianity as almost equivalent in trustworthiness yet the bible accounts are made by non eyewitness who were anonymous writers said by Top christian scholars!!!) so bible is not even a match to Sirah (a third tear source!!)
Even some muslims here fall for the same mistake (wow he knows a lot ) but that is true he knows a lot (for average non native non Muslim people) where is the rigor of scholarly judgement here!! Actually if I talk straight this video does not give justice to Islamic rigorous sources and I had feeling from the uploader face, he was disappointed too judging from his gestures (a lot for a UK person) but that is my guess. God knows best.
May God grant him more knoweldge and wisdom and you and me and all ameen.. thanks for your comment brother.
Alhamdulillah another my morning tazkirah. 7 am here, Malaysia.
quran is copied from Christian hyms ( the PROTOTYPE QURAN) before vowels were added, muslims are bathed in ignorance by there masters , its time for muslims to take control of there own minds and GET KNOWLEDGE!!!! th-cam.com/video/dJnnicnZkUc/w-d-xo.html
Alhamdhulillah Allah chose you both for a reason and may almighty bless you both with health and long life to do this excellent job to prevail the truth
I have recently started watching your videos.
Started with short videos and now I am hooked to it. Can't stop watching
Sam Harris that I know is an American philosopher and author who has a common sense with the opposite mindset. 😁
Au début c.etait votre esprit qui était curieux/ maintenant c.est votre coeur qui en demander/ votre corps à trouver la sérénité de l'âme)
Excellent discussion. Quite scholarly and truthful---- and honest.
this is so fresh....being true to history and the scholarship of history doesnt include making excuses for the Prophet saw....and romantising the Prophets challenges takes away from his divinely guided triumphs esp in politics...management...leadership.
Thank you Prof Hayward and Paul for this inspirational session...i am motivated to read that book on the Prophet and War...In Syaa Allah
Lovely aslm looking forward to hearing more and reading ur bk on The Nabi saw and diplomacy! Remarkable that u chose to write about that! I find myself often stunned by the simplicity of his reaction in word and kind to whatever he encountered! Shukran!
I really enjoy when scholars present the prophet (S.A.W) as a human instead of a superficial being(which tbh is common). He was an outstanding person because of his character, humility and his understanding of people. His great leadership!!!To me he is more relatable that way and my admiration peaks when I ponder him that way. I enjoyed every minute of this episode!!! Masha Allah
Thanks Mr. Paul. The non-English, English-speaking world has full gratitude to you.
BEAUTIFUL discussion. At the start, I really didn't know whether I would enjoy it, but WOW was this an amazing and very beneficial discussion. I really appreiciate his passion to advance the rational approach to the Seerah.
One of the best podcasts I have seen in a while.. Amazing job. Professor Hayward's humility and depth of research is unmatched. Jazakallah.
Very detailed, focused and insight discussion. Really beneficial. Thanks
What a lovely man, may Allah bless you Joel and give you happiness, bliss and many more interesting historical findings that you can share with us inshallah 🙏
Salam Paul,
I absolutely feel spiritually fulfilled listening to you. And in this episode Professor Joel Hayward really puts it in perspective how the scholarly sources have to be balanced with beliefs in order to arrive at a hypothesis.
Loved it.
Why is this talk so short, really, wanted to listen more. Excellent. May Allah bless you both, and especially you Paul.
His books as audiobooks in Professor's own voice would be on another level. Wish that happens, insha Allah
Really so impressive professor who really inspired me. I read many books of Sirah but never understood some things until now. Invite him back Mr Paul
This is so wonderful. The professor is remarkable. I feel uplifted in my faith and much better informed than I was
Mashallah!!!! May Allah swt Bless Brother Paul. May Allah Bless the Professor. ❤
Fantastic guest. Thank you very much to both of you, May Allah bless you and increase you in goodness
Assalam Alaykum brother Paul and brother Prof Joel. I was almost moved to tears several times during this discussion at the nature of our Prophet (peace be upon him) and also the humbleness of Prof Joel and all the great work he is doing. Insha'Allah that work will ultimately lead many non Muslims to view our Prophet in a different light, and insha'Allah to become Muslims themselves. May Allah SWT bless Prof Joel and you brother Paul. 🤲🏼🤲🏽
Islam is a fake counterfeit religion of the devil, mohammad met devil in heera cave, he was possessed by demons or jinn of sexual perversion, Khadija tested whether it is an angel or devil, by showing her pussy, so the devil tricked her by hiding, she did not see allah nor the demon or jebreel all were in mohmmad's head , mohammad was bewitched by a jewish man so he had so much hallucinations and crazy feelings, some times he even said he had sex with his wives but he did not, mohammad died of poison that proves he was a fake prophet according to his own words and by the narrations of Aysha his child wife. Look at the character of mohammaad , he was a pedophile, sexaholic psychopath, his allah is a filthy demon of sexual perversions and fertility , that is not the charactor God of Abraham or Ishmael or Jacob or Moses or Jesus will approve, he broke all commandments, he was an adulterer, a murderer, rapist, pedophile, robbery was his hobby, satan put words in his mouth or mind ..he used to have episodes of epileptic or demonic manifestations, falling down, foams come in his his mouth, shivering shaking ...that is devilish, allah gave hims sex food to achieve forty men's sexual power ..for what ? so allah is the same demon. of fertility and sexual immorality, kaaba is the center of demon worship, allah is a phallic idol , the black stone kissing is allah's daughter Al Latts vagina. overall Islam is a filthy cult. Quran is filthy, mohaammad was a psychopath and filthy sex prophet.
Your false antichrist prophet was a pédophile
What a wonderful conversation ❤ we want him again please.
Very motivating and a humble man. Jazāk Allāhu Khayran ❤
Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarokaatuh. Congratulations Paul and guest professor. Always amazing intellectual discussion. May Allah bless you all always.
From the deepest part of my heart, thank you Brother Paul and Brother Joel
Very impressive and powerful way of explaining every detail about the events Allah bless you and increase your Emman.🌹
You have no clue on Christianity. MUHAMMAD WAS NOT A PROPHET.
Beautiful professor Hayward,
My hat goes up for you sir.
Paul, thanks for sharing this video please invite him again.
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I couldn't help, but she'd tears of joy. May Allah bless Professor Hayward
This talk was great. I was totally transfixed from start to end.. thank you for these amazingly in depth and academic discussions.
Wow what a fresh and insightful exposition on the Muslim Faith....I understand so much more about the seedbed of Islam.
Thank you very much for your genuine interest.
Are you a Muslim or a Christian or a FORMER Christian?
I mean what your position?
Islam is a fake counterfeit religion of the devil, mohammad met devil in heera cave, he was possessed by demons or jinn of sexual perversion, Khadija tested whether it is an angel or devil, by showing her pussy, so the devil tricked her by hiding, she did not see allah nor the demon or jebreel all were in mohmmad's head , mohammad was bewitched by a jewish man so he had so much hallucinations and crazy feelings, some times he even said he had sex with his wives but he did not, mohammad died of poison that proves he was a fake prophet according to his own words and by the narrations of Aysha his child wife. Look at the character of mohammaad , he was a pedophile, sexaholic psychopath, his allah is a filthy demon of sexual perversions and fertility , that is not the charactor God of Abraham or Ishmael or Jacob or Moses or Jesus will approve, he broke all commandments, he was an adulterer, a murderer, rapist, pedophile, robbery was his hobby, satan put words in his mouth or mind ..he used to have episodes of epileptic or demonic manifestations, falling down, foams come in his his mouth, shivering shaking ...that is devilish, allah gave hims sex food to achieve forty men's sexual power ..for what ? so allah is the same demon. of fertility and sexual immorality, kaaba is the center of demon worship, allah is a phallic idol , the black stone kissing is allah's daughter Al Latts vagina. overall Islam is a filthy cult. Quran is filthy, mohaammad was a psychopath and filthy sex prophet.
@@faisalsiraj1463 lm a Christian and will remain one !
Very humble professor. Thank you both.
ما شاء اللّٰه
he has good pleasing voice .. and a wonderful way of telling the his.story of the prophet .. and a fresh outlook and knowledge of the history of prophet Muhammad s.a.w. I hope he will create a youtube channel to share his knowledge to a watching&listening audience
Listening to this insightful discussion has strengthened and increased my faith and iman tenfold. Thank you both.
What a fascinating episode
I loved this interview with a great expert who taught me a new way to look at things
Very solid critical analysis of historical events.
Another insightful video!!
A really great interview with a true expert
Professor Hayward is both very impressive and very inspiring. I found his descriptions and explanations of the Prophet extremely interesting and, at times, also extremely moving. Such a fascinating discussion. A big thank you.
Splendid. May Allah reward you in this life and in the afterlife!
quran is copied from Christian hyms ( the PROTOTYPE QURAN) before vowels were added, muslims are bathed in ignorance by there masters , its time for muslims to take control of there own minds and GET KNOWLEDGE!!!! th-cam.com/video/dJnnicnZkUc/w-d-xo.html
This was an awesome eye opening discussion! Thanks for organizing it Paul, much appreciated. ❤️
Thanks Paul for inviting Prof. Joel Hayward. Truly enjoyed listening to very informative talk during my morning walk in the park. And looking forward to reading his books on Prophet's Leadership and Diplomacy. May Allah bless you and Prof Joel Hayward always !
I like this channel because of the scholarly approach and discussions. Thanks.
Glad you like them!
two good people talking about Islam so lovely
Very insightful! Please keep writing more books!
I will be waiting for his book to be published.
Listening to you, I felt a great longing to hear more and more of prophet Muhammad's seerah.
Thanks for bringing highly educated,well spoken, sincere& intelligent people on your program. Amazing! Thankyou.
Deep, insightful, factual... Brilliant interview. Very well analysed & explained by Prof.Joel. An eye opener for many. God bless.
Learned so much today . Thank you Professor. May Allah bless u n your work always aamin
A wonderful interview. I liked the idea of the blessed Prophet saw reffered to as the distributer of tangible goods. The blessed Prophet was also the distributer of Allah's devine blessings upon the creation.
Thank you for this thoughtful discussion around the life of the Prophet. Just purchased Dr. Hayward's book on the 'Leadership of Muhammad' and look forward to reading it. I think all Muslims seek to understand the Prophet as a means to be closer to him and model his good behavior. It's always exciting to gain further incites about him - both as man and Prophet of God.
Absolutely right!
Dont trust this dr too much! He has jewish(hebrew) descend and in his youth he was part of a jewish organisation!
How come I haven't heard of this fabulous scholar before? Mesmerizing indeed!!
I think the Hadith below applies to you and your guest, my brother.
It applies to you because I found you honest in presenting information when you started this channel.
And I think that it applies to your guest because he likes to return the favor no matter how long it costs him, it seems that this characteristic was in him even before his conversion to Islam. It is clear that he intends not to stop responding to God's favor after guiding him to Islam that he will continue his writings on Islam to let more people know about it.
the beautiful thing is that at the end of the hadith the Messenger, may God bless him and grant him peace, specify who he meant by his saying, “ if they comprehend,” and this applies to both of you and to many of those who reverted to Islam by studying it.
Although I was born a Muslim, I learned many things from those who reverted to Islam, and this is because of their in-depth study of Islam, and also Allah increases their knowledge by opening doors of knowledge that He did not give to those who were born Muslims. Praise be to Allah, Lord of the worlds, for the blessing of Islam.
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Some people asked the Prophet: "Who is the most honorable amongst the people?" He replied, "The most honorable among them is the one who is the most Allah-fearing." They said, "O Allah's Prophet! We do not ask about this." He said, "Then the most honorable person is Joseph, Allah's Prophet, the son of Allah's Prophet, the son of Allah's Prophet, the son of Allah's Khalil." They said, "We do not ask about this." He said, "Then you want to ask me about the Arabs' descent?" They said, "Yes." He said, "Those who were best in the pre-lslamic period, are the best in Islam if they comprehend (the religious knowledge).
sunnah.com/bukhari:3374
Please invite Muhammad Tim Humble,(A student of knowledge) for an interview as well with this very same topic of Discussion or another Topic of Discussion but with this topic included in it.
quran is copied from Christian hyms ( the PROTOTYPE QURAN) before vowels were added, muslims are bathed in ignorance by there masters , its time for muslims to take control of there own minds and GET KNOWLEDGE!!!! th-cam.com/video/dJnnicnZkUc/w-d-xo.html
Great guest and a very unique perspective on the life of the Prophet SAWW. I have always been baffled by the historical take on the life of the Prophet SAWW and why the Hadith and other similar works are disregarded. However, this discussion does give a better insight into the matter.
Paul, if will be great to understand from the sheikh specifically how some of the Islamic sources are viewed historically and allow us a view of the Islamic vs Western view on what sources are acceptable.
It is also important to know the historical understanding of oral traditions.
Islam is a fake counterfeit religion of the devil, mohammad met devil in heera cave, he was possessed by demons or jinn of sexual perversion, Khadija tested whether it is an angel or devil, by showing her pussy, so the devil tricked her by hiding, she did not see allah nor the demon or jebreel all were in mohmmad's head , mohammad was bewitched by a jewish man so he had so much hallucinations and crazy feelings, some times he even said he had sex with his wives but he did not, mohammad died of poison that proves he was a fake prophet according to his own words and by the narrations of Aysha his child wife. Look at the character of mohammaad , he was a pedophile, sexaholic psychopath, his allah is a filthy demon of sexual perversions and fertility , that is not the charactor God of Abraham or Ishmael or Jacob or Moses or Jesus will approve, he broke all commandments, he was an adulterer, a murderer, rapist, pedophile, robbery was his hobby, satan put words in his mouth or mind ..he used to have episodes of epileptic or demonic manifestations, falling down, foams come in his his mouth, shivering shaking ...that is devilish, allah gave hims sex food to achieve forty men's sexual power ..for what ? so allah is the same demon. of fertility and sexual immorality, kaaba is the center of demon worship, allah is a phallic idol , the black stone kissing is allah's daughter Al Latts vagina. overall Islam is a filthy cult. Quran is filthy, mohaammad was a psychopath and filthy sex prophet.
quran is copied from Christian hyms ( the PROTOTYPE QURAN) before vowels were added, muslims are bathed in ignorance by there masters , its time for muslims to take control of there own minds and GET KNOWLEDGE!!!! th-cam.com/video/dJnnicnZkUc/w-d-xo.html
@@JewelsRoyale we need to understand them to refute them. Historical approach is flawed for Muslim history. It assumption don't work for early Islamic societies. And unless we know those assumptions, we cannot refute them.
I learnt so much from this conversation. Thank you 🙏🏼🙏🏼
As a scholar, he is on point. The way in which he gives clear explanations of the history of Muhammad ( صلى الله عليه وسلم ) is respectful, enlightening and straight forward.
Who is a scholar?
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don’t throw around the term “scholar” so lightly. The likes of Sheikh Ibn Uthaymeen was a scholar. Not everyone who speaks about Islam is a scholar. Maybe a little studied.
a person who attends a school or studies under a teacher : pupil. 2a : a person who has done advanced study in a special field. b : a learned person. 3 : a holder of a scholarship
I hope my answer is adequate
@@INJEEL_1028 Whatever the “official” definition is , whether its the oxford definition or otherwise, Islamically speaking, the term is used for someone of the likes of Sheikh bin Baaz, or Sheikh Ibn Uthaymeen, Or someone the likes of Ibn Taymiyyah. These men were scholars. They were not simply people “who studied in a school” or men who “done advanced study” rather they were people who’s knowledge was above and beyond most. If we used to the term like the definition you have presented us with, then we would have an incredible amount of scholars! But that is not the case. The scholars are few in our time, and they are given this title because they are worthy , and we can seek knowledge from them. And they speak the truth, we don’t have to worry if they are telling us nonsense.
but if you are talking literally, and about the english word for it, then yes you may be correct. But In Islam, in arabic, we dont throw around the term عالم
Alhamdulillah
Professor Joel Hayward has revolutionized my thinking. Please invite him back.