Okay, to explain the individual storylines as quickly as possible: Minji: Basically the guy is a player. She thought he liked her, cause he wrote on her arm and was all flirty with her, but then she saw him full of writings from other girls. Danielle & Haerin: They were two-timed by the basketball dude. Later on they found out about it and decided to put their "friendship" first. Hyein: She was interested in the guy, cause she found him interesting and different from the other guys...but then he started acting weirdly with the emojis he sent her and then she saw him mocking their choreo, which is also why the text said smth like "That's not our dance!!!". Hanni: Her partner is basically the only one, who didn't negatively surprise her. Ofc she was shocked to find out, that the dancer wasn't a guy, but she wasn't feeling bad about it.
the gist of this is that they are hyping up boys in their minds then later on discovers that their "hypeboy" is not what they think they would actually be like in personality, appearance or attitude wise.
quick note but in dani and haerin’s ver it was more like he tried to two-time them, but haerin wasn’t very interested in him from the start. also i don’t think minji’s was a bad ending either!!
Actually in Spain, where attention was recorded, if you are 16 you can go alone to concerts, even to nightclubs💀. In the MV the girls went to a catalan singer and musician concert so it’s okay. Except for hyein everyone is old enough to be there so there’s no problem☺️ Btw the mv was filmed indeed in Barcelona. I visited the places this week cause some of them are near where I live
This album is basically a classic high school love story which is a really good concept for them since this is what we need at the moment, a refreshing sounds and concept and its really impressive that they were able to express this freshness thru their voice as a rookie and a rare thing for a newly debuted 4th gen group. A lot of people are talking about cookies because of the lyric but the song is really catchy and easy to listen to. This is like a break for the industry to step back and enjoy more of a chilling and vibin to the music rather than streaming a explosive 808 kpop song, and the fact that they still rocking the chart and breaking records with this album in where most 4th gen group debut with more of a hype and main stream genre of music is really..REALLY impressive. Glad you liked this debut and album :)
it is not that impressive, let's remember they are part of HYBE, their success is really well deserved but let's not pretend they were not hyped when they are part of one of the biggest companies
@@finnrogue9435 I think they mean the quality of the music is impressive. I would still say their success is impressive considering they had zero to no pre debut promotion, attention literally dropped out of no where. Even then, not many other groups from big or small companies have put this much effort into creating a cohesive sound and creative direction. The influences are very clear to the point that people already claim other songs as “sounding like new jeans”
I agree, from what I've seen from korean speaking people is that the eng translations for cookie aren't correct. I saw a video of them explaining it and it makes sense. It goes with the concept of their other songs
I’m Brazilian and I speak English, I actually used to work as an English teacher for most part of my life and to be honest I’ve never heard the slang for cookie, not even when I was living in the US. So when people started to point out the lyrics it had me shook. That being said, I think it’s a problem of language barrier and culture
yeah, it's honestly just a problem of the people who interpreted it that way, they saw in an american movie or sth cookie being used to describe sth dirty and now 2 seconds after they saw the lyrics they assumed it's the same stuff, the lyrics clearly don't describe sth sexual but i guess if you have a dirty mind it can be interpreted that way, i do applaud the effort of the production team, i'd do the same if i was them, put some almost "controversial" lyrics in there just to see people argue about them for months and try to figure out what it really means, it's very smart from them, there's no such thing as bad publicity right? :))
1st. I was waiting for your reaction for like so long, so now I'm happy. They really nailed this concept and everything about their debut is refreshing and unique. Let our fandom name be pockets. Amen.
I really think Danielle and Haerin got something more than ''friendship'' in their Mv honestly, If their scenes were boy&girl people would say they like each other but just because they're girls everything seems like friendship to them, maybe i'm in the wrong but, the seemed to like each other (danielle and haerin)
⚠️ In Korea, Cooking(굽다) means making a pirate or private music CD in your PC for a Gift. (CD를 굽다) The shape of CD is similar to Cookie. So, Cooking Cookie 🍪 means Making CD 💿. K-pop is 🇰🇷 Korean culture. You can see the picture of Cookie & CD in this MV ☺️
my interpretation of hype boy was its about them hyping up the crush in their head but at the party they find out something was different/unexpected? like minji- she thought he liked her back since he wrote on her hand but then realised other ppl wrote all over him, and he was just being friendly danielle&haerin- danielle sees the boy she likes giving haerin a lollipop so its a bit of a rivalry at first, but then they compare texts and realise he's two timing them, so they get revenge by taking his stuff from the locker room, in the end they just choose friendship instead bc they dont need him hyein- she liked him and thought he was all shy and cute but then at the party she saw him and his friends mocking and making fun of their dance moves, so she got angry hanni- hype boy was a hype girl? or nb or trans either way that was the twist, probs the only really happy one lol
As a Korean native speaker and an English nonnative speaker, I think this is not just a cultural difference. It is true that there is no innuendo in Korean lyrics and the word cookie and Koreans do not fully understand what is implied by the English phrases mixed in the lyrics. But I also see the English translation implies more than in the original Korean lyrics. So I suspect it was intended somehow. I don’t know if it was the English translator, the producer, or the CEO. What I don’t understand is why. They would have known how English speakers would respond to this. To make noise to get attention for this new group? Or there was something wrong in their chain of decision making? Probably. I hope they have learned a lesson and will not make this kind of mistake. Anyway, they have enormous talents and I love them. They will make a big success as a 4th gen.
I think its either them (ador) or their translator are not sensible enough. I see many asians good with textbook english but they dont really catch up with innuendos. They might think using those type of words in english caption would be more "relatable" to english audience. Ps im asian myself
@@fifi7367 if the eng tranlator is non english speaker then that probably makes sense. I've been using english as my second language but since I'm not a native speaker, i didn't even get the innuendos at all. The lyrics only come off as cute to me. I didn't even know cookie is a slang for a reproductive part.
This is what I was talking about, though. I just don’t understand how everyone has explanations for the Korean lyrics but NONE for the English lyrics! I have yet to find at least ONE person who can fully explain the English lyrics and how they make sense with the Korean lyrics.
Well, In Korea, When recording a CD, using a word '굽다'. In English, bake. In mv, it's obious cookie means CD, and I think it's funny metaphor. I know, in certain culture, cookie includes sexual meaning. but in certain culture, cookie means cookie, and CD. hope you enjoy:)(수정함)
Ah that's very interesting to know actually. That makes sense. I think it's still gonna be hard for me to not hear innuendo bc I'm an english speaker and am of the culture I am BUT I appreciate that insight into a different kind of meaning from the Korean perspective
@@SafeCave I feel like they could have done a better job with making the English lyrics sound like what the song was supposed to mean but idk that's just my opinion 🤔
@@khalidkhan-ez2ed yeah I'm basically in the boat of "maybe they could have thought this through more". Like from what I've now seen, it's not all that bad at all given cultural context but if they plan on promoting internationally then they gotta be more aware of how things are gonna be perceived. Overall just seems like kind of a "whoops" more than anything malicious or purposefully innapropriate
@@SafeCave One of the songwriters is a woman from Sweden, so it's not just Korean culture. Also did the English translator not realize something doesn't exactly sound right? I mean, I don't know what actually happened and if it was intentional or not, but I personally can't listen to the song without hearing the innuendos and remembering how young these idols are
the thing with Haerin and Danielle for me is because every boy has a emoji for them and Haerin emoji is the lollipop and Danielle gives her the lollipop, and in the intro she says that she does like anyone but basketball keeps on texting her
God bless you. What you say here 47:22 is spot on. Sometimes it seems like people are forgetting that those who produce these young groups are people that worked in this industry for decades. They know k-pop is a global phenomenon, and they cater to an international audience. They know what they are doing. They are aware that lyrics like this could cause controversy. It's all marketing. As a matter of fact, they make up a story to justify the "original" meaning and let the girls explain it on Instagram. They can make a buzz around the group and reach a larger audience because of the controversy, consequently, they can create a stronger, tight fanbase that feels the need to protect the girls from the "attack" of people that listen to the lyrics and question them. It's all very carefully calculated. People need to understand that calling out lyrics like this IS an act of trying to "protect" these girls and not the opposite. It should be a priority for everyone that likes k-pop to call out companies and producers that use minors inappropriately.
You could be rigth but some ppl are taking all of their "concerns" to the limit where you don't know if they're really worried about the group or are just hater. Like why nobody talked about ive and their maknae singing about love dive? they're almost the same age as newjeans, so for me all of this is just fake concern.
@@HungLe-jw2wn Plus, there is a conversation to be had about dog whistles in kpop. I don't know what to believe for sure, but supposedly there are people in the industry that have outright called kpop "healthy pron" even when talking about young girls and out in the open. Keep in mind the age of consent changed from maybe 13 to 20 not that long ago, it'll take more time for them to adjust to it. A blog, kpopalypse, has written about dog whistles in the industry, and although I don't know I agree with everything said, I do believe them when they say IU's song "23" is basically about how exhausted she is from being forced into acting young for her age. I was pretty busy the year that song came out and I didn't pay attention the lyrics very well, but they do hint at her basically being fed up with creepy uncles.... kinda of forced into doing certain things to keep their attention, primarily coming across as very young. I do think the blog talking about another group maybe was overanalzying it, such as saying certain things like too much makeup or the right shade of lipstick to mimic the color of privates are to attract certain kinds of people. In reality, regardless of age, girls just want to be pretty and it doesn't mean the staff is purposely enticing old men. I also would totally believe that the English lyrics are just a different kind of marketing. The problem is however, what if that's not the case? Regardless even the blog I mentioned made a point of saying that making girls wait until 18 won't solve anything, and could actually make things worse for them since that means more time with alleged creepy CEOs since they're going train from a very young age either way. I'm sure a lot of us have heard about the worst things that can happen to not just girls, but boys, too, in kpop. I just hope it's not as common as it possibly could be, and that somehow things improve. But it's not like even with the metoo movement things have settled in the U.S., either... and I dunno if there's a way to speed up progress.
u dont get it every kpop accs who has pointed out the lyrics in insta call other 14/15 idols “hot” and post weird posts of them , some of them just don’t care.
As soon as their debut album was released, it ranked high on various Korea online music charts. They has garnered great popularity ! I love their music. so fresh !
Being R&B is my favorite genre of music - My ears are definitely favoring New Jean's sound! All 4 songs are SOOOO GOOOD!!! Which is not always the case! Coming from HYBE and all the innovative tactics they are using to promote them, this group is bound to be BIG!!!!
That Hype Boy intro where Haerin said “uh I don’t know” when they asked her if she liked anybody. Plus her ‘crush’ represented by lollipop plus the amount of her softly smiling at Danielle…… it’s really fruit basket, you are not alone
I am Korean and I use a translator It has disappeared now, but in the early 2000s, music files were backed up on an empty CD and listened to. At that time, they expressed that they burn CDs in Korea. The reason is that the CD becomes very hot when the backup is complete. This means that New Jeans cannot reject the cookies (CDs) we made. In the music video, the cookie turns into a CD, and the cookie that was rolled first rolls back to the CD is the most symbolic. It means taste their musicality.
I was really waiting for your reaction to New Jeans, they really are a bawl of fresh air, they bring something different to the table and it's quite enjoyable ! Also Danielle got credits for "Attention" and Hanni got credits for "Hype Boys" which I find really cool for a debuting group, hope they will make their talent bloom more and more. Haerin got me right from the beginning, I really like her aura, her voice and her charisma. But I hope to see more of them soon. Without speaking about the lyrics of "Cookie", I didn't really enjoyed the song's melody, so it's a two bird in one stone for me. For those lyrics, it's a bit difficult in my opinion to be 100% sure that nothing get lost in the translation, Korean seem to say that the lyrics are to childish. However even without that I think they could have done a better job to avoid that awkwardness. Ps: I hope your break was good, happy to see you back !
just to clear things up cookie is actually a fansong about baking cds for fans but instead represented as cookie hence the lyrics "living in your mind rent free" because of how good their songs are and the line about cavity is our problem represents that we've consumed so much of their music/cookies that were addicted and they dont care that were getting cavities or going insane for it. the reason why people say its a mistranslation is that knetz dont think of anything because "baking cds" is actually something they usually say and is a known metaphor and im pretty sure cookie isnt also an innuendo for ykw in korea. its more of a cultural difference thing than a mistranslation because some of the questionable lines is in english. the ones who wrote the lyrics were ppl who speak english from what i know so most likely they either heard about the baking cds thing in korea and went with it or maybe the topic was given by staff in ador/hybe but we'll prob never know. tbh if they replaced cookie with sumn else like a cake or cupcake or any other circlular baked goods this controversy wouldve never happened. i still think ador/hybe couldve thought it through a little more before releasing this cause yes it is okay for korean audiences but more on the questionable side when it comes to the international audiences. like i feel like they couldve kept the cookie as the cd but changed the other lyrics that would further hint at the cookie being a cd like putting lyrics suggesting to take a listen or anything music related besides that i absolutely love the song still! i personally didnt think about the innuendos (probably because i was so focused on their heavenly vocals omg) for the first few listens but after seeing the comments and stuff about it i started noticing it. i honestly now just think that its a song about getting addicted to cookies cause i absolutely love cookies so saves me some trouble... 😂
@@Guthwulf11 considering the min heejin situation it makes things worse, they couldve just changed some lyrics and it wouldve been fine. definitely still not good part on hybe, i wasnt defending them on that anyway.
@@solar4634 as a designer, i thnk she love only that kind of the youthful, drowsy and dreamy atmosphere.(i dkw is that right words, sorry😅 i'm not native English-speaker). Ofc it's little bit uncomfortable there are some posters of that kind of movie. But when i watched newjeans MV, i don't feel sexual things. And when i watch her artwork, I think she only use that kind of mood(like color, tone..) Also her insta feels like her pinterest things. Anyway If she has a big problem, why hasn't there been big controversy in over a decade? So I think it's okay to just be neutral or enjoy it until there's definitely a bad problem with New jeans.
I love how chilled and unbothered they seemed. So cool without even trying to protray the bad girl im so bad image. It’s too typical. They don’t need to. This song is truly refreshing and dope too. I love it! Intended to be just a casual listener at first but couldn’t help it, went to check out the album! It’s dope! No regrets! I love newjeans. Plus they are so pretty and charismatic. I’m happy to conclude I found my new favourite GIRLgroup after Oh my girl and Red velvet. They all have unique vibes and concepts.
For danielle and haerin the real thing is that the boy and Danielle are in a relationship but the boy gave the same candy to Haerin that he gave to Danielle before so the girls notice that he was playing with them so they takes his clothes and trow them
Some of this music sounds like Lee Hi B sides, which is definitely meant as a compliment. Lee Hi, herself, had started her career VERY young singing some very grown-up music.
I know I'm a year late but Haerin and Dani are pretty much like that with each other in real life they are besties.. also basketball guy is playing trying to date both haerin and dani at the same time.. the girls realise this and get revenge
Of their songs, Hurt is definitely my favorite. Cookie is my 2nd favorite but also my least favorite because of those lyrics. Also, there is definitely something fruity about the Danielle & Haerin version of Hype Boy.
I don't get why everyone is so fixated on the lyrics for Cookie tho.. It's obvious from the MV that the "cookie" is literally the CD i.e. they've prepared their music for their fans as a 'cookie' that once people taste, they won't get enough of. In Korea it's common to hear things like "baking a CD" similar to how in America people say they're "burning a CD" to mean they're making a CD. I thought it was such a cute and brilliant way to introduce that idea. And it seems this is how many Koreans took it too.
Actually I don't get why people take cookie meaning as female sexual part. The song clearly starts like "we make a cookie" which in no angle sounds like female sexual part. How can you make a female sexual part? Am I wrong in this?
My favorite HAS to be Attention. We've had a several comebacks already and there will be A LOT to come, but the "You got me lookin for Attentioooon" in the chorus is LEGIT one of the catchiest things I've heard in a while, you just can't help but sing along to it! About Cookie, it is true the lyrics come off a bit sus but I don't know, they made a TikTok explaining the lyrics and koreans are also saying it's not translated properly in the song captions and it's actually not what it really seems to be, but yea it makes sense for foreigners to read the lyrics and be thrown off by them. At the end of the day we can't really know unless we get official statements which I highly doubt, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, the industry is rough and the girls are young but as much as it's common, we cant always see the negative side of things and I hope that their company treats them well and let them live their teenage life properly. It also comes to mind that 2 of them have Australian origins and they're fluent in english, so they know what they were singing about as well as they have parents speaking both languages, there is NO way their parents stay silent if the lyrics meant what the translations are showing, but maybe im just delusional. So far NewJeans has done incredibly good, I've never seen a debut like this and they are really doing it different which is awesome, a breath of fresh air like people has been saying.
Going tbh, I'm pretty cynical about the parents of kids that end up in the industry, there may be far too many that wouldn't do anything about it if there are legit innuendos in a song. Especially true for parents from the west.
been following your reactions for a while, and i really love your contents! thank you for making these reactions. tbvh i watch some others, but yours are the best in terms of just enjoying the songs and the comebacks, analyzing very small details, noticing things, etc. i feel refreshed and healed everytime i watch your contents. been watching your fromis_9's for a couple times (i re-watch them too haha), and i really feel what you feel as a fellow flover. Chaeyoung is my ult too! and i'm currently trying to learn about new groups too, like New Jeans, from you. thank you Kaia! and welcome back!
22:38 The story of this MV is that a man is proposing to two women. Upon learning of this, the two friends become awkward, but soon reconcile, and then take a small revenge on the man. 29:00 The story of this MV is that he was attracted to a pure and lonely man, but it turned out that he was disappointed to see that he was neither innocent nor lonely, nor did he care about others.
I love that you love the music. The 1st one I saw was 'Attention' mv - such a chill fun vibe and utterly different sound (as you said). I saw a description (that I agree with) that it's very 'casual pre-teen mid-2000's r&b style'. I actually was a preteen in the mid-2000's (born Oct. 1993) who liked (and still likes) casual pop/r&b - so it felt very fresh and freeing. You made yourself laugh - You made me laugh. Your instant 'ugh' at the end and then starting to laugh set me off (immediately thought 'oh overprotective sibling mode instantly activated') & I had to pause this reaction vid to LITERALLY CACKLE HYSTERICALLY WITH LAUGHTER FOR A GOOD 10 MINUTES! My father came into the living room (I'm using headphones & laptop) & was just standing there staring at me as I laughed. Cackled, unable to breath, & his face setting me off even more before he fled into his room. I haven't laughed that hard in a LONG time so bless you simply for that. I un-paused the video (after going back a bit) and then freely laughed along as I was watching & enjoying your hysterical laughter and comments. Completely worth the wait!
as korean, 'cookie' lyric wasn't weird. We use same verb for making CD and COOKIE(굽다) . The song seems express a cookie(cd, music) that they make . (The video starts with cookie and ends with cd)
Cookie reminds me of IU's Jam Jam. Its pretty apparent that she wasn't just talking about food. And the official explanations of the song were pretty 'diplomatic'.
@@LFNZE Thing is I've heard from plenty of people that they have at least one native English speaker on staff. The other problem is uh... kpop is like, kind of global now right? If the English lyrics are making us really uncomfortable, you know they just have to change the translations? Maybe it would take some time to do it, but they could easily update us that they plan on changing them asap. They obviously don't have to change the song itself, just how it's translated. Pretty sure they can change the subtitles without affecting the video in any way. Also, to most native English speakers the metaphor for "bake a cookie" sounds really weird, and like it was made up as an excuse to write dirty lyrics. Although, I'm well aware now that the metaphor is common there, but a lot of people aren't going to understand it. Not only that, that's not the only line that makes us uncomfortable, there are several lines that are... "concerning". Such as: - her cookie "ain't for free" -- could be taken as he needs to work or pay for her... um... "cookie" - "no dinner, dinner, you're hungry though... no water, water, you're thirsty though" -- basically the boy is hungry and thirsty for the girls themselves... not a CD. This line especially doesn't make sense to me even when considering the Korean metaphor of baking a CD. - 'that's how you like it, ain't that right" -- those kind of words are used in our songs quite often in a sexual way - "looking at my cookie, do you ever smell it different?" -- I mean........ that is craaaazy dirty - 'I wanna see you taste it" -- uh yeah. Basically asking for oral "activities". - "made a little cookie, come and take a lookie" -- yep, still pretty bad, asking the boy to look at her private part. The worst part in all this that makes me angry is calling native English speakers perverts for very obvious dirty lyrics. I'm fairly conservative when it comes to sexual things, so I could easily miss innuendos. I don't even like really talking about such things as I get older, and here I am with this song stuck in my head (because otherwise it's good and very catchy - you must understand how easily it can get stuck in one's head.) Every time it pops in my head it makes me feel bad :( Cuz then I'm thinking about the old dirty perverts this song can attract and it just reminds me of the horrible things that happen in this world to young girls. It's not any different than little kids on TH-cam doing innocent things, only to find out that the wrong kind of people watch those videos for totally different reasons. So I don't get defending a company that doesn't even know you while knowing that there are disgusting people that will love the English lyrics just the way they are?? Wouldn't you rather we say, "HEY, bad people are going to enjoy this song for the absolute most disgusting reason, you should probably fix it."? Although, there's a blog called Kpopalypse that talks about dog whistles in kpop, where it's common to have very innocent things in kpop songs/videos that are meant to attract those kind of people on purpose. I thought maybe they were overanalzying the entire industry... but maybe not, and ya'll are just desensitized to it? To be fair, I may be at this point, too, overall. It's just that in the song Cookie, the innuendos are super obvious, I'd barely call them innuendos they're so obvious.
@@NickaLah Stray Kids used God’s Menu the same way New Jeans uses Cookie, it’s nothing inappropriate until you think it is. God’s Menu is about Stray Kids having it all (everything’s you want) in their music and you wanting to come back for more. You can make the lyrics inappropriate if the lyrics/video weren’t so intense. Meanwhile Cookie=CD is about them seducing a boy (not sexually though, we can see this with Attention and Hybe Boy) by baking a special sweet treat for him, inviting him to come and try it, they warn him: you’ll get addicted because you can’t find such a sweet thing anywhere else; hence all the toppings in the lyrics. The price to pay for their seduction is the cavity, “Cavity’s your problem,” because eating all those cookies, all that sugar, will probably give him caries. It’s part of the consequences of getting addicted to them. I can understand the uh “Western Sexualization” of the song since I’m living in the U.S. but I don’t think you can get a cavity from eating a girls 🐱, an STD maybe, but not a cavity 😂.
I never planned to stan these girls or buy their album being that they were perceived competition to my ult group Kep1er but when I heard their songs, I just had to buy the album and support the group because RNB just takes me back and I vibe with their songs naturally.
I SCREAMED when you saw the guy haha. NewJeans are such a breath of fresh air - just a group of girls having fun, some great choreo and amazing tracks. Hype Boy is fantastic. It's like 1995 just slapped me on the face and I want more.
About your little gay brain, I'm not gay but I also got the message that they finally get along together (not as just friends but like couple because Danielle, maybe she wasn't trying to be flirty or anything, but she looked like trying to seduce Haerin hahaha) after the basketball guy was just playing with both of the girls. So yeah, you don't have to be gay for getting that message ^^ About the Cookie song, it was a metaphor of "baking a CD" so they played with that, in Korean it's not really inappropiate BUT I'm completely agreed about them not paying attention to how the lyrics could be understood by foreigner fans. Personally, when I first listened to it I didn't think bad about the lyrics maybe because I know a bit of Korean and also because I'm not an English native speaker too ^^ BUT I say it again: "they should have thought further on how the lyrics could be understood by English speakers before doing it".
Your reaction to the guy made me crack up! That was just one of those once in a lifetime, priceless moments. I also feel the same overprotective way given their ages, so I completely understand you here, don't feel bad about it. I'm probably way too old to be listening to this music (I'm older than these girls' PARENTS!!), but it's just so GOOD!! Also, when you said, "Oh, he's the loner boy. He's probably a poet", that was hilarious.
Forgot to mention... Really great live vocal versions of "Attention" and "Hurt": Attention th-cam.com/video/SVZhx-woT_g/w-d-xo.html Hurt th-cam.com/video/DaCx8_hLxTY/w-d-xo.html Also, as if their vocals and dancing skills weren't enough, Danielle co-wrote "Attention", and Hanni co-wrote "Hype Boy". Yeah. Their first two hits at debut, and these rookie teenagers helped write them.
Yeah Hype Boy is my far my fave and I agree, the worst part of Cookie for me is the lyrics for Danielle's part during the second verse. The rest I can be like ok.. whatever it just seems weird in English (though I'm still not completely content with it regardless) but that part nah I can't think of it any other way personally. 46:40 so true - if they aren't promoting to a Western audience then fair enough but if they are then more consideration should be taken in future regarding the lyrical content.
for danielle and haerin...the guy was two timing them...maybe thats why they trashed the changing room and are better off without him(and maybe realized that they liked each other)
It took me like 2 see through to get the Danielle and Haerin's story line and I felt the fruity vibes as well. From what I saw Danielle and basketball ball guy were a thing but he was trying to get with Haerin. He gave Danielle the heart lollipop and that's why she already had it and he was trying to give the same one tk Haerin but he was caught when Danielle came down the stairs with it. They both decide to get back at him and keep their relationship. That can been taken as friendship or more but definitely the fruity vibes for me.
OH MY GOODNESS YES YES! So sorry I'm a bit late but that's okay, I totally agree with you in everything you said (I'm still getting to know the Members the two that I can tell from the rest are Danielle and Haerin becsuse they are very unique, I mean they all are but those two just look really different!) Dude I am younger than two of them and older than three of them (Danielle by a couple days, Haerin by a little over a year, and Hyein by a few years) and let me just say when I heard some of these lyrics/saw the Music Videos I went really protective over them like some of the lyrics especially in Cookie made me cringe and wonder what in the world but overall I can tell they are going to be a FANTASTIC Group, their Music is very catchy, and their choreo is GREAT (but again they need to change some of those lyrics! Also dude again I had the same reaction as you like at 9:15 I could not stop laughing the way you reacted was Amazing and to be Honest I did the same thing, at 28:50 again dude I could not stop laughing, at 18:54 I'm not trying to assume anything but they aren't helping that was VERY fruity well that whole MV was (and what I got from it is that they both had a crush on the same guy and then the guy was playing both of them so they teamed up against the boy and then fell in love with each other??) And at 21:05 that was the cutest smile ever but also again very suspicious, at 23:06 yeah you're right look at the way Haerin looks back at Danielle very cute, at 23:35 I've said this many times VERY SUS (and yes it reminds me of KHAN I'm Your Girl and it's so cute), and at 32:18 the fact that it was a girl (or they/them) either way there is definitely some LGBT stuff going on here! Again they are a great Group but the lyrics of most of these songs (except for Hurt) are a little weird and I don't know how to feel about it but they are pretty catchy, anyways I can't wait for you to more of NewJeans in the future and I hope that you are doing well and staying safe and healthy! P.S. If you ever need any good Videos I could totally help you out if you need it, there are a lot of theories about Hype Boy you should definitely check them out yourself (because I'm still confused on what was going on!) 🤣😂
i just found out about newjeans and they are amazing!! cookie is a banger but like people said the lyrics are not suitable for them yet. but hear this, this is just my wish but I would love to see Red Velvet make a full cover of cookie. lyrics wont be a problem for them imo.
kpop. intended audience are korean, cookie is about food and dessert (dont take as in verbatim the translations. as asian we felt happy about cookie. dont trasnlate just enjoy the music and dance.......
I think some people forget that these girls are highschool age, the age when teenagers start seriously thinking about dating and move past the innocent crushes of middle school. When they sing about stuff that sounds kinda suggestive, you have to remember that they are singing to teenagers their own age. That's why all the boys in their music videos are very obviously young teenagers. This is the age when everyone starts to develop their tastes both romantically and sexually, its when you start to try and figure yourself out and what you like and don't like. I don't know about you guys but almost every couple I knew in high school was boning every chance they could get lol Even if Cookie was meant to be a bit suggestive, so what? They aren't talking to adults in the song they are talking to their hypothetical high school age crush and that's NORMAL. We as adults need to be the mature ones and realize it's not directed at us and if it weirds us out, that's because WE are seeing them sexually and taking the song as them being sexual towards US and that is an US problem, not a them problem. Re frame your mindset and I think Cookie will be more enjoyable for you. Also it's not like they had them half naked in the music video doing highly sexual dance moves, I mean the youngest two were in full length pants for the entire video😅
I think 'Cookie' lyrics definitely just depend on one's perception/expectation about it. The girls themselves said that the cookie they were talking about in the song symbolized their album. They made the 'cookie' a.k.a their album, and they hope the fans would want/love it. At the beginning of the mv, a giant cookie was rolling and at the end of the mv, their album cd was the one rolling instead of the cookie. If you listen to the song with that perception then it will definitely sound innocent. On the other hand, if you have the expectation that the song is gonna sound inappropriate based on what you heard others say, then your mind is definitely gonna interpret the meaning into something else which will make you get what others were saying about it.
Gorgeous charming talented deep voice Minji-ssi 💖💝💘. ( _sounds like Jisoo and Sumin_ ) ! *New Jeans is the new Hybrid 4th Gen Kpop Idol group.* The REAL DEAL!
Yeah, am a fluent English speaking from Indonesia, the lyrics does come a bit 'weird' when you realized how young they are yet it didn't hit me as strong as (probably) native speaking English speaker. I love the vibe, the groove of the music and their vocals, it's the most that influenced my head. Yet I hv to agree, the lyrics does felt inappropriate for their age for international fans.
Might get hate for this, but I think it’s an important discussion regardless. In terms of the lyrics to cookie, I think the problem is also that the subtitler and lyricists clearly has a grasp on contemporary conversational English. A lot of the ways things are expressed in the lyrics of cookie’s mv in the subs comes off entirely plausible as intentional innuendos, or literally viral tweets. Not to mention it being paired with quite a low-light MV that felt imo a bit male gaze-y directed at times…. So regardless of intention, if it WASN’T intention (in which I personally doubt) it doesn’t feel like they cared to consider the possibility of it sexualising the minors. I also feel like it’s a bit infantilising to insinuate that all Koreans view it as cute, I’ve seen some (non-fan) Korean comments showing concern too. However I actually really enjoyed Attention! The song is fully my vibe and the music video is so stellar. But cookie really threw me off. I’d love to hear your thoughts! Edit: I think your note about how they seem to be promoting to a western audience is a VERY important one for this discussion too.
Okay, to explain the individual storylines as quickly as possible:
Minji: Basically the guy is a player. She thought he liked her, cause he wrote on her arm and was all flirty with her, but then she saw him full of writings from other girls.
Danielle & Haerin: They were two-timed by the basketball dude. Later on they found out about it and decided to put their "friendship" first.
Hyein: She was interested in the guy, cause she found him interesting and different from the other guys...but then he started acting weirdly with the emojis he sent her and then she saw him mocking their choreo, which is also why the text said smth like "That's not our dance!!!".
Hanni: Her partner is basically the only one, who didn't negatively surprise her. Ofc she was shocked to find out, that the dancer wasn't a guy, but she wasn't feeling bad about it.
the gist of this is that they are hyping up boys in their minds then later on discovers that their "hypeboy" is not what they think they would actually be like in personality, appearance or attitude wise.
quick note but in dani and haerin’s ver it was more like he tried to two-time them, but haerin wasn’t very interested in him from the start. also i don’t think minji’s was a bad ending either!!
@@nnaiixx4360 that's what i thought, haerin showed 0 interest in him, that's my girl
@@nnaiixx4360 yeah, I agree. Minji's wasn't a bad end
I think you misundertanding Minji's storyline.
Actually in Spain, where attention was recorded, if you are 16 you can go alone to concerts, even to nightclubs💀. In the MV the girls went to a catalan singer and musician concert so it’s okay. Except for hyein everyone is old enough to be there so there’s no problem☺️
Btw the mv was filmed indeed in Barcelona. I visited the places this week cause some of them are near where I live
Se puede entrar en Apollo si eres menor? Es solo si es un concierto?
DOES ANYONE KNOW THE SONG THAT PLAYED IN THE CONCERT AT THE START OF ATTENTION???
@@Loonaurtheworld See you in my dreams - Jan Bonet
@@mariartorres la sala Apolo es una una sala de conciertos así que depende del concierto que se haga supongo que la restricción de edad sera distinta
I interpreted it as a dream sequence based on the book she's reading plus the song on her headphones - she's self inserted as the protag
the reaction to the guy was ABSOLUTELY PRICELESS. the pure aww to ugh was brilliant 😂
Haerin and Danielle’s definitely gave me fruity vibes tbh. My favorite songs is hands down Hype Boy. IT IS AMAZING
nah fr man
You should know this....
When Danielle puts candy to Haerin's mouth.... is THE MOST REPLAYED in this version
I'm not surprised at all 😂
더러워 ㅠ
EXACTLY
I feel like Danielle puts off mega fruity vibes. She has a very flirty demeanor and openness she exudes
This album is basically a classic high school love story which is a really good concept for them since this is what we need at the moment, a refreshing sounds and concept and its really impressive that they were able to express this freshness thru their voice as a rookie and a rare thing for a newly debuted 4th gen group. A lot of people are talking about cookies because of the lyric but the song is really catchy and easy to listen to. This is like a break for the industry to step back and enjoy more of a chilling and vibin to the music rather than streaming a explosive 808 kpop song, and the fact that they still rocking the chart and breaking records with this album in where most 4th gen group debut with more of a hype and main stream genre of music is really..REALLY impressive. Glad you liked this debut and album :)
it is not that impressive, let's remember they are part of HYBE, their success is really well deserved but let's not pretend they were not hyped when they are part of one of the biggest companies
@@finnrogue9435 I think they mean the quality of the music is impressive. I would still say their success is impressive considering they had zero to no pre debut promotion, attention literally dropped out of no where. Even then, not many other groups from big or small companies have put this much effort into creating a cohesive sound and creative direction. The influences are very clear to the point that people already claim other songs as “sounding like new jeans”
I agree, from what I've seen from korean speaking people is that the eng translations for cookie aren't correct. I saw a video of them explaining it and it makes sense. It goes with the concept of their other songs
@@Roman-vl1fy exactly! The new girl group from JYP didn’t do that well and they are from JYP
The quality of their songs is impressive enough!! I can’t believe it
I’m Brazilian and I speak English, I actually used to work as an English teacher for most part of my life and to be honest I’ve never heard the slang for cookie, not even when I was living in the US. So when people started to point out the lyrics it had me shook. That being said, I think it’s a problem of language barrier and culture
yeah, it's honestly just a problem of the people who interpreted it that way, they saw in an american movie or sth cookie being used to describe sth dirty and now 2 seconds after they saw the lyrics they assumed it's the same stuff, the lyrics clearly don't describe sth sexual but i guess if you have a dirty mind it can be interpreted that way, i do applaud the effort of the production team, i'd do the same if i was them, put some almost "controversial" lyrics in there just to see people argue about them for months and try to figure out what it really means, it's very smart from them, there's no such thing as bad publicity right? :))
1st. I was waiting for your reaction for like so long, so now I'm happy. They really nailed this concept and everything about their debut is refreshing and unique. Let our fandom name be pockets. Amen.
I really think Danielle and Haerin got something more than ''friendship'' in their Mv honestly, If their scenes were boy&girl people would say they like each other but just because they're girls everything seems like friendship to them, maybe i'm in the wrong but, the seemed to like each other (danielle and haerin)
⚠️ In Korea, Cooking(굽다) means making a pirate or private music CD in your PC for a Gift. (CD를 굽다) The shape of CD is similar to Cookie. So, Cooking Cookie 🍪 means Making CD 💿. K-pop is 🇰🇷 Korean culture. You can see the picture of Cookie & CD in this MV ☺️
cd는 개뿔 ㅋ 노리고 작사한거 맞음, 작사가 자체가 영어권 애들이고 cookies 도 아니고 'cookie' 단수로 썻음.
my interpretation of hype boy was its about them hyping up the crush in their head but at the party they find out something was different/unexpected? like
minji- she thought he liked her back since he wrote on her hand but then realised other ppl wrote all over him, and he was just being friendly
danielle&haerin- danielle sees the boy she likes giving haerin a lollipop so its a bit of a rivalry at first, but then they compare texts and realise he's two timing them, so they get revenge by taking his stuff from the locker room, in the end they just choose friendship instead bc they dont need him
hyein- she liked him and thought he was all shy and cute but then at the party she saw him and his friends mocking and making fun of their dance moves, so she got angry
hanni- hype boy was a hype girl? or nb or trans either way that was the twist, probs the only really happy one lol
newjeans is the most refreshing girl group i've ever heard
As a Korean native speaker and an English nonnative speaker, I think this is not just a cultural difference. It is true that there is no innuendo in Korean lyrics and the word cookie and Koreans do not fully understand what is implied by the English phrases mixed in the lyrics. But I also see the English translation implies more than in the original Korean lyrics. So I suspect it was intended somehow. I don’t know if it was the English translator, the producer, or the CEO. What I don’t understand is why. They would have known how English speakers would respond to this. To make noise to get attention for this new group? Or there was something wrong in their chain of decision making? Probably. I hope they have learned a lesson and will not make this kind of mistake. Anyway, they have enormous talents and I love them. They will make a big success as a 4th gen.
I think its either them (ador) or their translator are not sensible enough. I see many asians good with textbook english but they dont really catch up with innuendos. They might think using those type of words in english caption would be more "relatable" to english audience.
Ps im asian myself
@@fifi7367 if the eng tranlator is non english speaker then that probably makes sense. I've been using english as my second language but since I'm not a native speaker, i didn't even get the innuendos at all. The lyrics only come off as cute to me. I didn't even know cookie is a slang for a reproductive part.
@@boolji At least now they would know it was a bad strategy making a negative impact on global market.
This is what I was talking about, though. I just don’t understand how everyone has explanations for the Korean lyrics but NONE for the English lyrics! I have yet to find at least ONE person who can fully explain the English lyrics and how they make sense with the Korean lyrics.
@@chebelme you live under a rock or you’re not from the western world if you didn’t know what cookie means in the western culture.
Well, In Korea, When recording a CD, using a word '굽다'. In English, bake. In mv, it's obious cookie means CD, and I think it's funny metaphor. I know, in certain culture, cookie includes sexual meaning. but in certain culture, cookie means cookie, and CD. hope you enjoy:)(수정함)
Ah that's very interesting to know actually. That makes sense. I think it's still gonna be hard for me to not hear innuendo bc I'm an english speaker and am of the culture I am BUT I appreciate that insight into a different kind of meaning from the Korean perspective
@@SafeCave I feel like they could have done a better job with making the English lyrics sound like what the song was supposed to mean but idk that's just my opinion 🤔
그치만 cookie는 어느정도 노린게 맞아요. ador 사단이 노렸다는 게 아니고, 애초에 demo version 작사가가 영어권 사람이에요. 특히나 looking at my cookie 문장을 보면 원래 가사가 19금으로 나온 것 같아요
@@khalidkhan-ez2ed yeah I'm basically in the boat of "maybe they could have thought this through more". Like from what I've now seen, it's not all that bad at all given cultural context but if they plan on promoting internationally then they gotta be more aware of how things are gonna be perceived. Overall just seems like kind of a "whoops" more than anything malicious or purposefully innapropriate
@@SafeCave One of the songwriters is a woman from Sweden, so it's not just Korean culture. Also did the English translator not realize something doesn't exactly sound right? I mean, I don't know what actually happened and if it was intentional or not, but I personally can't listen to the song without hearing the innuendos and remembering how young these idols are
"cutie! oh..." will forever be the funniest reaction you've had
everyone been praising them for their good music, also their charting is really good! they broke records left and right and i'm so proud of em 😿
the thing with Haerin and Danielle for me is because every boy has a emoji for them and Haerin emoji is the lollipop and Danielle gives her the lollipop, and in the intro she says that she does like anyone but basketball keeps on texting her
God bless you. What you say here 47:22 is spot on. Sometimes it seems like people are forgetting that those who produce these young groups are people that worked in this industry for decades. They know k-pop is a global phenomenon, and they cater to an international audience. They know what they are doing. They are aware that lyrics like this could cause controversy. It's all marketing. As a matter of fact, they make up a story to justify the "original" meaning and let the girls explain it on Instagram. They can make a buzz around the group and reach a larger audience because of the controversy, consequently, they can create a stronger, tight fanbase that feels the need to protect the girls from the "attack" of people that listen to the lyrics and question them. It's all very carefully calculated. People need to understand that calling out lyrics like this IS an act of trying to "protect" these girls and not the opposite. It should be a priority for everyone that likes k-pop to call out companies and producers that use minors inappropriately.
its a marketing ploy???? this is horrible
@Tam Trinh Its just OP guess. There are no proofs at all. Don't believe every things you read on internet
You could be rigth but some ppl are taking all of their "concerns" to the limit where you don't know if they're really worried about the group or are just hater. Like why nobody talked about ive and their maknae singing about love dive? they're almost the same age as newjeans, so for me all of this is just fake concern.
@@HungLe-jw2wn Plus, there is a conversation to be had about dog whistles in kpop. I don't know what to believe for sure, but supposedly there are people in the industry that have outright called kpop "healthy pron" even when talking about young girls and out in the open. Keep in mind the age of consent changed from maybe 13 to 20 not that long ago, it'll take more time for them to adjust to it. A blog, kpopalypse, has written about dog whistles in the industry, and although I don't know I agree with everything said, I do believe them when they say IU's song "23" is basically about how exhausted she is from being forced into acting young for her age. I was pretty busy the year that song came out and I didn't pay attention the lyrics very well, but they do hint at her basically being fed up with creepy uncles.... kinda of forced into doing certain things to keep their attention, primarily coming across as very young.
I do think the blog talking about another group maybe was overanalzying it, such as saying certain things like too much makeup or the right shade of lipstick to mimic the color of privates are to attract certain kinds of people. In reality, regardless of age, girls just want to be pretty and it doesn't mean the staff is purposely enticing old men. I also would totally believe that the English lyrics are just a different kind of marketing. The problem is however, what if that's not the case? Regardless even the blog I mentioned made a point of saying that making girls wait until 18 won't solve anything, and could actually make things worse for them since that means more time with alleged creepy CEOs since they're going train from a very young age either way. I'm sure a lot of us have heard about the worst things that can happen to not just girls, but boys, too, in kpop. I just hope it's not as common as it possibly could be, and that somehow things improve. But it's not like even with the metoo movement things have settled in the U.S., either... and I dunno if there's a way to speed up progress.
u dont get it every kpop accs who has pointed out the lyrics in insta call other 14/15 idols “hot” and post weird posts of them , some of them just don’t care.
As soon as their debut album was released, it ranked high on various Korea online music charts. They has garnered great popularity ! I love their music. so fresh !
Being R&B is my favorite genre of music - My ears are definitely favoring New Jean's sound! All 4 songs are SOOOO GOOOD!!! Which is not always the case! Coming from HYBE and all the innovative tactics they are using to promote them, this group is bound to be BIG!!!!
About the hype boy danielle and haerin ver. YES ITS SO EFFING FRUITY I CANT
That Hype Boy intro where Haerin said “uh I don’t know” when they asked her if she liked anybody. Plus her ‘crush’ represented by lollipop plus the amount of her softly smiling at Danielle…… it’s really fruit basket, you are not alone
I am Korean and I use a translator
It has disappeared now, but in the early 2000s, music files were backed up on an empty CD and listened to. At that time, they expressed that they burn CDs in Korea.
The reason is that the CD becomes very hot when the backup is complete.
This means that New Jeans cannot reject the cookies (CDs) we made.
In the music video, the cookie turns into a CD, and the cookie that was rolled first rolls back to the CD is the most symbolic. It means taste their musicality.
That explains a lot of thing wow.
I was really waiting for your reaction to New Jeans, they really are a bawl of fresh air, they bring something different to the table and it's quite enjoyable !
Also Danielle got credits for "Attention" and Hanni got credits for "Hype Boys" which I find really cool for a debuting group, hope they will make their talent bloom more and more.
Haerin got me right from the beginning, I really like her aura, her voice and her charisma. But I hope to see more of them soon.
Without speaking about the lyrics of "Cookie", I didn't really enjoyed the song's melody, so it's a two bird in one stone for me.
For those lyrics, it's a bit difficult in my opinion to be 100% sure that nothing get lost in the translation, Korean seem to say that the lyrics are to childish. However even without that I think they could have done a better job to avoid that awkwardness.
Ps: I hope your break was good, happy to see you back !
just to clear things up
cookie is actually a fansong about baking cds for fans but instead represented as cookie hence the lyrics "living in your mind rent free" because of how good their songs are and the line about cavity is our problem represents that we've consumed so much of their music/cookies that were addicted and they dont care that were getting cavities or going insane for it. the reason why people say its a mistranslation is that knetz dont think of anything because "baking cds" is actually something they usually say and is a known metaphor and im pretty sure cookie isnt also an innuendo for ykw in korea. its more of a cultural difference thing than a mistranslation because some of the questionable lines is in english. the ones who wrote the lyrics were ppl who speak english from what i know so most likely they either heard about the baking cds thing in korea and went with it or maybe the topic was given by staff in ador/hybe but we'll prob never know. tbh if they replaced cookie with sumn else like a cake or cupcake or any other circlular baked goods this controversy wouldve never happened. i still think ador/hybe couldve thought it through a little more before releasing this cause yes it is okay for korean audiences but more on the questionable side when it comes to the international audiences. like i feel like they couldve kept the cookie as the cd but changed the other lyrics that would further hint at the cookie being a cd like putting lyrics suggesting to take a listen or anything music related
besides that i absolutely love the song still! i personally didnt think about the innuendos (probably because i was so focused on their heavenly vocals omg) for the first few listens but after seeing the comments and stuff about it i started noticing it. i honestly now just think that its a song about getting addicted to cookies cause i absolutely love cookies so saves me some trouble... 😂
@@Guthwulf11 considering the min heejin situation it makes things worse, they couldve just changed some lyrics and it wouldve been fine. definitely still not good part on hybe, i wasnt defending them on that anyway.
In Korea cookie is a cute song not inappropriate.
Their is nothing wrong with min heejin.
@@nicoleloss7987 have you even checked out the controversy surrounding her? its a real thing and we should be concerned
@@solar4634 as a designer, i thnk she love only that kind of the youthful, drowsy and dreamy atmosphere.(i dkw is that right words, sorry😅 i'm not native English-speaker).
Ofc it's little bit uncomfortable there are some posters of that kind of movie. But when i watched newjeans MV, i don't feel sexual things. And when i watch her artwork, I think she only use that kind of mood(like color, tone..)
Also her insta feels like her pinterest things.
Anyway If she has a big problem, why hasn't there been big controversy in over a decade?
So I think it's okay to just be neutral or enjoy it until there's definitely a bad problem with New jeans.
9:19 Such a honest reaction 😭🤣
🤣🤣 I thought the same
I love how chilled and unbothered they seemed. So cool without even trying to protray the bad girl im so bad image. It’s too typical. They don’t need to. This song is truly refreshing and dope too. I love it! Intended to be just a casual listener at first but couldn’t help it, went to check out the album! It’s dope! No regrets! I love newjeans. Plus they are so pretty and charismatic. I’m happy to conclude I found my new favourite GIRLgroup after Oh my girl and Red velvet. They all have unique vibes and concepts.
For danielle and haerin the real thing is that the boy and Danielle are in a relationship but the boy gave the same candy to Haerin that he gave to Danielle before so the girls notice that he was playing with them so they takes his clothes and trow them
9:16 LMFAOOO KAIA NOOO 😭🤣
If only not for cookie's lyrics & hyein's age, I'd stan
good thing they clarified that cookie in korean is very different and they translated it wrong for "aesthetic" sake on youtube
The reaction to the boy in attention actually made me laugh so hard I started coughing
A breath of fresh air! I love it
I too thought that Danielle and Haerin's MV had some fruity elements lmao
AND I TOO LOVE BEING A DELUSIONAL GAY + THEY WOULD BE SUCH A CUTE SHIP
Some of this music sounds like Lee Hi B sides, which is definitely meant as a compliment. Lee Hi, herself, had started her career VERY young singing some very grown-up music.
9:18 wtf hahha I laughed so hard that I cried don't disrespect the 6th member of newjeans.
I know I'm a year late but Haerin and Dani are pretty much like that with each other in real life they are besties.. also basketball guy is playing trying to date both haerin and dani at the same time.. the girls realise this and get revenge
Hahahaha. Fast forward 1 year and I think you may have called it spot on with Danielle and Haerin 😂
Of their songs, Hurt is definitely my favorite. Cookie is my 2nd favorite but also my least favorite because of those lyrics. Also, there is definitely something fruity about the Danielle & Haerin version of Hype Boy.
same here with hurt and cookie lol
I don't get why everyone is so fixated on the lyrics for Cookie tho.. It's obvious from the MV that the "cookie" is literally the CD i.e. they've prepared their music for their fans as a 'cookie' that once people taste, they won't get enough of. In Korea it's common to hear things like "baking a CD" similar to how in America people say they're "burning a CD" to mean they're making a CD. I thought it was such a cute and brilliant way to introduce that idea. And it seems this is how many Koreans took it too.
Actually I don't get why people take cookie meaning as female sexual part. The song clearly starts like "we make a cookie" which in no angle sounds like female sexual part. How can you make a female sexual part? Am I wrong in this?
it's not fruity at all. how is deciding friendship is better than being in a relationship fruity 🤷
My favorite HAS to be Attention. We've had a several comebacks already and there will be A LOT to come, but the "You got me lookin for Attentioooon" in the chorus is LEGIT one of the catchiest things I've heard in a while, you just can't help but sing along to it!
About Cookie, it is true the lyrics come off a bit sus but I don't know, they made a TikTok explaining the lyrics and koreans are also saying it's not translated properly in the song captions and it's actually not what it really seems to be, but yea it makes sense for foreigners to read the lyrics and be thrown off by them. At the end of the day we can't really know unless we get official statements which I highly doubt, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, the industry is rough and the girls are young but as much as it's common, we cant always see the negative side of things and I hope that their company treats them well and let them live their teenage life properly. It also comes to mind that 2 of them have Australian origins and they're fluent in english, so they know what they were singing about as well as they have parents speaking both languages, there is NO way their parents stay silent if the lyrics meant what the translations are showing, but maybe im just delusional.
So far NewJeans has done incredibly good, I've never seen a debut like this and they are really doing it different which is awesome, a breath of fresh air like people has been saying.
Going tbh, I'm pretty cynical about the parents of kids that end up in the industry, there may be far too many that wouldn't do anything about it if there are legit innuendos in a song. Especially true for parents from the west.
YES IT'S A WHOLE FRUIT SALAD!!!
been following your reactions for a while, and i really love your contents! thank you for making these reactions. tbvh i watch some others, but yours are the best in terms of just enjoying the songs and the comebacks, analyzing very small details, noticing things, etc. i feel refreshed and healed everytime i watch your contents. been watching your fromis_9's for a couple times (i re-watch them too haha), and i really feel what you feel as a fellow flover. Chaeyoung is my ult too! and i'm currently trying to learn about new groups too, like New Jeans, from you. thank you Kaia! and welcome back!
22:38 The story of this MV is that a man is proposing to two women. Upon learning of this, the two friends become awkward, but soon reconcile, and then take a small revenge on the man.
29:00 The story of this MV is that he was attracted to a pure and lonely man, but it turned out that he was disappointed to see that he was neither innocent nor lonely, nor did he care about others.
I love this refreshing sound and I think their classic love story concept suits them since they are so young
you have friends! 54k of them on youtube. You're just so positive and refreshing that i'm sure all of us would want you as a friend
I love that you love the music. The 1st one I saw was 'Attention' mv - such a chill fun vibe and utterly different sound (as you said). I saw a description (that I agree with) that it's very 'casual pre-teen mid-2000's r&b style'. I actually was a preteen in the mid-2000's (born Oct. 1993) who liked (and still likes) casual pop/r&b - so it felt very fresh and freeing.
You made yourself laugh - You made me laugh. Your instant 'ugh' at the end and then starting to laugh set me off (immediately thought 'oh overprotective sibling mode instantly activated') & I had to pause this reaction vid to LITERALLY CACKLE HYSTERICALLY WITH LAUGHTER FOR A GOOD 10 MINUTES! My father came into the living room (I'm using headphones & laptop) & was just standing there staring at me as I laughed. Cackled, unable to breath, & his face setting me off even more before he fled into his room.
I haven't laughed that hard in a LONG time so bless you simply for that. I un-paused the video (after going back a bit) and then freely laughed along as I was watching & enjoying your hysterical laughter and comments. Completely worth the wait!
Loving the sound of this group
as korean, 'cookie' lyric wasn't weird. We use same verb for making CD and COOKIE(굽다) . The song seems express a cookie(cd, music) that they make . (The video starts with cookie and ends with cd)
NewJeans is now my fave GG
Their song Top Teir
They just released two more songs “supernatural “ and “right now”
Can't count how many times I've watched this reaction 😩
I've been waiting for this reaction! I knew you would love their music!
Finally! was waiting for a NewJeans reaction because I kinda felt you'll like their music too.
“cuti-oh” LMAO when i tell you i laughed
AHH SO EXCITED TO HEAR YOUR REACTION!
I love how Twice has been hyping NJ from day one even though they’re from a different company.
I'd love to hear Twice cover NewJeans!
Cookie reminds me of IU's Jam Jam. Its pretty apparent that she wasn't just talking about food. And the official explanations of the song were pretty 'diplomatic'.
As a non english speaker, Cookie is my favorite, vocals, prod, choreo are insane. Lyrics are just sound to me, sorry for native english speaker :/
It's inappropriate since the girls are very young and it's creepy.
@@LFNZE Thing is I've heard from plenty of people that they have at least one native English speaker on staff. The other problem is uh... kpop is like, kind of global now right? If the English lyrics are making us really uncomfortable, you know they just have to change the translations? Maybe it would take some time to do it, but they could easily update us that they plan on changing them asap. They obviously don't have to change the song itself, just how it's translated. Pretty sure they can change the subtitles without affecting the video in any way. Also, to most native English speakers the metaphor for "bake a cookie" sounds really weird, and like it was made up as an excuse to write dirty lyrics. Although, I'm well aware now that the metaphor is common there, but a lot of people aren't going to understand it. Not only that, that's not the only line that makes us uncomfortable, there are several lines that are... "concerning". Such as:
- her cookie "ain't for free" -- could be taken as he needs to work or pay for her... um... "cookie"
- "no dinner, dinner, you're hungry though... no water, water, you're thirsty though" -- basically the boy is hungry and thirsty for the girls themselves... not a CD. This line especially doesn't make sense to me even when considering the Korean metaphor of baking a CD.
- 'that's how you like it, ain't that right" -- those kind of words are used in our songs quite often in a sexual way
- "looking at my cookie, do you ever smell it different?" -- I mean........ that is craaaazy dirty
- 'I wanna see you taste it" -- uh yeah. Basically asking for oral "activities".
- "made a little cookie, come and take a lookie" -- yep, still pretty bad, asking the boy to look at her private part.
The worst part in all this that makes me angry is calling native English speakers perverts for very obvious dirty lyrics. I'm fairly conservative when it comes to sexual things, so I could easily miss innuendos. I don't even like really talking about such things as I get older, and here I am with this song stuck in my head (because otherwise it's good and very catchy - you must understand how easily it can get stuck in one's head.) Every time it pops in my head it makes me feel bad :( Cuz then I'm thinking about the old dirty perverts this song can attract and it just reminds me of the horrible things that happen in this world to young girls.
It's not any different than little kids on TH-cam doing innocent things, only to find out that the wrong kind of people watch those videos for totally different reasons. So I don't get defending a company that doesn't even know you while knowing that there are disgusting people that will love the English lyrics just the way they are?? Wouldn't you rather we say, "HEY, bad people are going to enjoy this song for the absolute most disgusting reason, you should probably fix it."?
Although, there's a blog called Kpopalypse that talks about dog whistles in kpop, where it's common to have very innocent things in kpop songs/videos that are meant to attract those kind of people on purpose. I thought maybe they were overanalzying the entire industry... but maybe not, and ya'll are just desensitized to it? To be fair, I may be at this point, too, overall. It's just that in the song Cookie, the innuendos are super obvious, I'd barely call them innuendos they're so obvious.
@@NickaLah Stray Kids used God’s Menu the same way New Jeans uses Cookie, it’s nothing inappropriate until you think it is. God’s Menu is about Stray Kids having it all (everything’s you want) in their music and you wanting to come back for more. You can make the lyrics inappropriate if the lyrics/video weren’t so intense. Meanwhile Cookie=CD is about them seducing a boy (not sexually though, we can see this with Attention and Hybe Boy) by baking a special sweet treat for him, inviting him to come and try it, they warn him: you’ll get addicted because you can’t find such a sweet thing anywhere else; hence all the toppings in the lyrics. The price to pay for their seduction is the cavity, “Cavity’s your problem,” because eating all those cookies, all that sugar, will probably give him caries. It’s part of the consequences of getting addicted to them.
I can understand the uh “Western Sexualization” of the song since I’m living in the U.S. but I don’t think you can get a cavity from eating a girls 🐱, an STD maybe, but not a cavity 😂.
pls we had the same reaction to the boy in attention LMAOO
they are older enough, in Barcelona are clubs (concerts like this one )where you can go because it's daylight not at night
I never planned to stan these girls or buy their album being that they were perceived competition to my ult group Kep1er but when I heard their songs, I just had to buy the album and support the group because RNB just takes me back and I vibe with their songs naturally.
I SCREAMED when you saw the guy haha. NewJeans are such a breath of fresh air - just a group of girls having fun, some great choreo and amazing tracks. Hype Boy is fantastic. It's like 1995 just slapped me on the face and I want more.
About your little gay brain, I'm not gay but I also got the message that they finally get along together (not as just friends but like couple because Danielle, maybe she wasn't trying to be flirty or anything, but she looked like trying to seduce Haerin hahaha) after the basketball guy was just playing with both of the girls. So yeah, you don't have to be gay for getting that message ^^
About the Cookie song, it was a metaphor of "baking a CD" so they played with that, in Korean it's not really inappropiate BUT I'm completely agreed about them not paying attention to how the lyrics could be understood by foreigner fans. Personally, when I first listened to it I didn't think bad about the lyrics maybe because I know a bit of Korean and also because I'm not an English native speaker too ^^ BUT I say it again: "they should have thought further on how the lyrics could be understood by English speakers before doing it".
Your reaction to the guy made me crack up! That was just one of those once in a lifetime, priceless moments. I also feel the same overprotective way given their ages, so I completely understand you here, don't feel bad about it. I'm probably way too old to be listening to this music (I'm older than these girls' PARENTS!!), but it's just so GOOD!!
Also, when you said, "Oh, he's the loner boy. He's probably a poet", that was hilarious.
Forgot to mention...
Really great live vocal versions of "Attention" and "Hurt":
Attention
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Hurt
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Also, as if their vocals and dancing skills weren't enough, Danielle co-wrote "Attention", and Hanni co-wrote "Hype Boy". Yeah. Their first two hits at debut, and these rookie teenagers helped write them.
nwjns are so refreshing :)))
In Hyein's mv I am pretty sure the boy was making fun of their dance since you can see a text message that says "that's not our move."
Yeah Hype Boy is my far my fave and I agree, the worst part of Cookie for me is the lyrics for Danielle's part during the second verse. The rest I can be like ok.. whatever it just seems weird in English (though I'm still not completely content with it regardless) but that part nah I can't think of it any other way personally. 46:40 so true - if they aren't promoting to a Western audience then fair enough but if they are then more consideration should be taken in future regarding the lyrical content.
for danielle and haerin...the guy was two timing them...maybe thats why they trashed the changing room and are better off without him(and maybe realized that they liked each other)
I love Le sserafim and newjeans those two hybe girl group.
thank you for your reaction! and hope you enjoyed your break. If you were interested you should check out DPR Ian and his MITO movie!
100% agree what you said at the end! Well say!
It took me like 2 see through to get the Danielle and Haerin's story line and I felt the fruity vibes as well. From what I saw Danielle and basketball ball guy were a thing but he was trying to get with Haerin. He gave Danielle the heart lollipop and that's why she already had it and he was trying to give the same one tk Haerin but he was caught when Danielle came down the stairs with it. They both decide to get back at him and keep their relationship. That can been taken as friendship or more but definitely the fruity vibes for me.
Their songs are so so good, and they're really cute, and then i watched cookie MV as the last one and it just felt weird watching it.
your reaction to the guy showed up near the end of Attention was lol
“i’ve been doing my duolingo but i WOULD like to know what they’re saying” meeee. also. you are not the only one who saw what you saw.
Danielle and Haerin version: basically the guy is two timing them.. and then when they found out what he was doing.. they choose they're friendship
70s and 80s sesame street COOKIE MONSTER. please. I personally love cookie. i love new jeans
OH MY GOODNESS YES YES! So sorry I'm a bit late but that's okay, I totally agree with you in everything you said (I'm still getting to know the Members the two that I can tell from the rest are Danielle and Haerin becsuse they are very unique, I mean they all are but those two just look really different!) Dude I am younger than two of them and older than three of them (Danielle by a couple days, Haerin by a little over a year, and Hyein by a few years) and let me just say when I heard some of these lyrics/saw the Music Videos I went really protective over them like some of the lyrics especially in Cookie made me cringe and wonder what in the world but overall I can tell they are going to be a FANTASTIC Group, their Music is very catchy, and their choreo is GREAT (but again they need to change some of those lyrics! Also dude again I had the same reaction as you like at 9:15 I could not stop laughing the way you reacted was Amazing and to be Honest I did the same thing, at 28:50 again dude I could not stop laughing, at 18:54 I'm not trying to assume anything but they aren't helping that was VERY fruity well that whole MV was (and what I got from it is that they both had a crush on the same guy and then the guy was playing both of them so they teamed up against the boy and then fell in love with each other??) And at 21:05 that was the cutest smile ever but also again very suspicious, at 23:06 yeah you're right look at the way Haerin looks back at Danielle very cute, at 23:35 I've said this many times VERY SUS (and yes it reminds me of KHAN I'm Your Girl and it's so cute), and at 32:18 the fact that it was a girl (or they/them) either way there is definitely some LGBT stuff going on here! Again they are a great Group but the lyrics of most of these songs (except for Hurt) are a little weird and I don't know how to feel about it but they are pretty catchy, anyways I can't wait for you to more of NewJeans in the future and I hope that you are doing well and staying safe and healthy!
P.S. If you ever need any good Videos I could totally help you out if you need it, there are a lot of theories about Hype Boy you should definitely check them out yourself (because I'm still confused on what was going on!) 🤣😂
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You had me cry laughing at your reaction to a "man"!
14:28 I love that part!! and also your reactions too! DOPE!!
i just found out about newjeans and they are amazing!! cookie is a banger but like people said the lyrics are not suitable for them yet. but hear this, this is just my wish but I would love to see Red Velvet make a full cover of cookie. lyrics wont be a problem for them imo.
Well they already did Cookie Jar.
I have a feeling all of us thought the same fruitiness about Danielle and Haerin's, but we will never know really unless someone asks lol.
kpop. intended audience are korean, cookie is about food and dessert (dont take as in verbatim the translations. as asian we felt happy about cookie. dont trasnlate just enjoy the music and dance.......
Basketball boy was trying to get with both of them and they found out & decided to maintain their friendship over “basketball boy”
Wow 😲, these girls amazing! They all can sing, dance and they're visual. The vibe tho... Its kinda remains me of 1st gen of kpop gg ♥️
I know what the story lines are for the Hype Boy MVs, but I'm glad I was not the only one who saw the fruity side of it.
I’m not gay, yet I see baskets of fruit flying all over the place 😂
I think some people forget that these girls are highschool age, the age when teenagers start seriously thinking about dating and move past the innocent crushes of middle school. When they sing about stuff that sounds kinda suggestive, you have to remember that they are singing to teenagers their own age. That's why all the boys in their music videos are very obviously young teenagers. This is the age when everyone starts to develop their tastes both romantically and sexually, its when you start to try and figure yourself out and what you like and don't like. I don't know about you guys but almost every couple I knew in high school was boning every chance they could get lol
Even if Cookie was meant to be a bit suggestive, so what? They aren't talking to adults in the song they are talking to their hypothetical high school age crush and that's NORMAL. We as adults need to be the mature ones and realize it's not directed at us and if it weirds us out, that's because WE are seeing them sexually and taking the song as them being sexual towards US and that is an US problem, not a them problem. Re frame your mindset and I think Cookie will be more enjoyable for you. Also it's not like they had them half naked in the music video doing highly sexual dance moves, I mean the youngest two were in full length pants for the entire video😅
So I’m not the only one who thinks of yooa when I look at danielle 😆
"i can only apologise for my very unfiltered reaction to a man" lmaooooo
Cookie means CD .
Lyrics is very good .
Most koreans like cookie Lyrics .
Hanni and Haerin my babies ❤️😍❤️😍❤️
I think 'Cookie' lyrics definitely just depend on one's perception/expectation about it. The girls themselves said that the cookie they were talking about in the song symbolized their album. They made the 'cookie' a.k.a their album, and they hope the fans would want/love it. At the beginning of the mv, a giant cookie was rolling and at the end of the mv, their album cd was the one rolling instead of the cookie. If you listen to the song with that perception then it will definitely sound innocent. On the other hand, if you have the expectation that the song is gonna sound inappropriate based on what you heard others say, then your mind is definitely gonna interpret the meaning into something else which will make you get what others were saying about it.
Gorgeous charming talented deep voice Minji-ssi 💖💝💘. ( _sounds like Jisoo and Sumin_ ) ! *New Jeans is the new Hybrid 4th Gen Kpop Idol group.* The REAL DEAL!
The music videos are filmed in Spain
Yeah, am a fluent English speaking from Indonesia, the lyrics does come a bit 'weird' when you realized how young they are yet it didn't hit me as strong as (probably) native speaking English speaker. I love the vibe, the groove of the music and their vocals, it's the most that influenced my head. Yet I hv to agree, the lyrics does felt inappropriate for their age for international fans.
The ceo of the agency wanted a niche market and explained that it's a high teen concept it's the opposite of strong K-pop
They live performances are amazing
Might get hate for this, but I think it’s an important discussion regardless. In terms of the lyrics to cookie, I think the problem is also that the subtitler and lyricists clearly has a grasp on contemporary conversational English. A lot of the ways things are expressed in the lyrics of cookie’s mv in the subs comes off entirely plausible as intentional innuendos, or literally viral tweets. Not to mention it being paired with quite a low-light MV that felt imo a bit male gaze-y directed at times…. So regardless of intention, if it WASN’T intention (in which I personally doubt) it doesn’t feel like they cared to consider the possibility of it sexualising the minors. I also feel like it’s a bit infantilising to insinuate that all Koreans view it as cute, I’ve seen some (non-fan) Korean comments showing concern too. However I actually really enjoyed Attention! The song is fully my vibe and the music video is so stellar. But cookie really threw me off.
I’d love to hear your thoughts!
Edit: I think your note about how they seem to be promoting to a western audience is a VERY important one for this discussion too.
The are all visual, good music, lovely voice like wow