She Ruined Her Own Life Then Made it Worse
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As a bartender in the US, depending on what state you're slinging drinks in, you can be held liable if you keep serving someone who's pass the limit (as in they're showing blatant signs of being wasted) if they get behind the wheel, we are suppose to call them a taxi. However a restaurant is WAY DIFFERENT then a concert venue. There's no way they can keep track of every customer who orders a drink let alone baby sit them the whole night. You have way less control when it comes to keeping an eye on drunk customers in a venue like that then in a bar/restaurant. It's definitely not the venues fault or responsibility. She's s.o.l on that one. Watch her turn it around on her dad next. 🙄
EDIT:
Thanks to the nice people who work in venues and sporting arenas for informing myself and others, that they are held to the same rules and regulations as bartenders in bars and restaurants. That being said, depending on where in Canada she was and the laws they have, the establishment could definitely be held liable. Now that being said, they'd have to prove that she didn't sneak her own alcohol in and/or that no other person got drinks for her if the bartenders cut her off. As well as making sure she didn't take any narcotics that would have amplified her intoxication levels. So hopefully Atozy comes back to update us on what happens because I'll be very interested to see what the courts do.
Make sure you stay respectful to others in the comments below. Nobody knows everything, there are ways to share your opinions or knowledge on the situation in a respectful way.
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My state is one of these states and that might be why they ejected her, they may have felt that she was at her limit and she threw a fit when she was refused service (I can't say that is what it was).
They may not have the same requirement to call a cab there, which makes sense.
Wtf is Blanton? Blatant?
Was just about to say this
Maybe they shld come out with drink cards, or a bracelet you punch holes out of. Something to keep track of drinks. I unno, just using my brain unlike many others.
In ontario you have to have a smart serve certificate to serve alcohol and you are held responsible and criminally liable for any harm caused by the alcohol you served.
Next she will sue the homeowners and the builders of the house she hit for building it where she was driving.
Those buildings just jumped in front of me!
She could try suing Marilyn Manson, but he takes less accountability for his bad actions than this dingbat does hers.
The building had a responsibility to know or ought to have known she was driving towards it, yet it did not take responsible action and stayed in place.. The building failed to take the steps to ensure her safety and thus should be held liable for negligence.
@@Xnkta ikr... I hope that building has a good lawyer 🙃
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Hi!!! Londoner here! 🙋🏼♀️It’s actually a lot worse: she not only got kicked out of the event but rumour has it that they cut her off multiple times before she was forced to leave, they asked her if she was driving and she said no. Also those homes were historical and part of the Underground Railroad. Fuckin brutal eh
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Yes though.
i was only a block away from the explosion when it happened, was a terrifying sight.
Yikes Canada is wild'n EH
Her friends kept buying her drinks too because she was cut off
I work side gigs as security. Event security supervising.
By law, all relevant event staff can be held responsible for the safety of event attendees after they consumed alcohol, until they sober up. Even after leaving the event. Within reason!
If event staff cut you off from drinking, or eject you from an event for disorderly conduct, because you want to keep drinking after being cut off or make a scene, and it's documented that staff did what they could to best control the situation, the chances of punishment start to shift back onto any patrons in question, for anything that happens after they leave an event.
This is just plain slobbish behaviour.
If you can't handle yourself after drinking, you shouldn't drink.
If you can't handle the accountability and responsibility and shift blame so that you can't blame yourself or your drinking as the problem, then you're an alcoholic, and an addict.
At the very least, you possess the psychology of one.
I mean she literally blew up someone's house definitely should have gotten longer than 3 years
she only served 2 years
That should have been under Domestic Terrorism. I would have given her a flat 40yr for that with 10yr possiblity for parole and have her pay cash money for everything else till all dmg has been repaid.
Ok but she actually didn’t the gas line did. Was that thing properly installed. Can a 15yr on a phone blow a house up too?? There’s more to it than she just blew the house up.
@@jbt9033 your IQ cannot be higher than 2. I can tell
@@jbt9033 ong was fine till her dum ass came along 10 million dollars worth of damage bruh that's sombody money she fucking wasted she can't even pay 1% of it so she should have gotten 20
She should be solely responsible for her own actions. She should not be able to sue for over-serving when her own recklessness and negligence is what caused her to get behind the wheel.
Well, she can sue all she wants. It won't work, she'll end up losing the suit and she'll be on the hook for everyone's legal fees. She's simply digging herself deeper, which is fine by me. Only problem is the legal fees will take precedence over payouts for victims, so maybe that's the play, basically get to a point where she can declare bankruptcy and avoid paying out?
@@saml7610every bartender in the United States and Canada knows that the business they work for is legally responsible for a guest getting too drunk and getting into a crash. We can agree that it’s insane but it is the law
@@Ziggykitty666 exactly. Been thru that same training multiple times.
@@Ziggykitty666 This didn't happen in America 🤨
@@Ziggykitty666 depends on the state, some states have no alcohol liability laws. Edit: This is Canada so idk.
Driving daddies car, living in daddies home, probably used daddies money to buy concert tickets.
Daddy siding with her saying vendor shares blame.
Parenting gone wrong.
Maybe she should sue him, he knows more than everyone else that she would do something stupid.
This among other reasons why some people shouldn't have kids
i dont think there's anything wrong with letting your kids live with you or give them money for something, but he definitely never taught her accountability or responsibility lmao
Yeah yeah blame the parents not the person, cons blame parents dems blame society... Who blames the person?
At what moment are they responsible solely as a sentient adult?
@@CountingStars333 I don’t think they’re trying to dismiss the fact that the girl is responsible. However, if your parents never taught you to take responsibility and always sides with you even when you’re clearly in the wrong, you end up with irresponsible children
I live in London Ontario the damage done was unreal she almost killed people and seems to have no remorse genuinely hate this woman thanks for sharing this story Atozy
Crazy b$#!h almost hit me that night.
I live here. London is disgusted with the system and how she still have NEVER SERVED ANY TIME FOR THIS! She is now trying to sue the venue that served her alcohol. She is a disgrace to humans
It AMAZES me how few people are properly punished for their crimes. Three years for the shit she pulled?!! Absolutely insane.
well no life was actually taken so 3-5 years is fair enough but when you think about all the damage shes unable to pay foor and lives she fucked up that way she needed least 5 :/ but sounds like no matter how much jail she does she wont learn :/ people like that i dunno what you can really do till they kill someone cause if they wanna drive they will :/
@@snowmorgan4115e you kidding me?? She was LUCKY no one was killed but someone very well could have been. People should be judged on the POTENTIAL of their outcomes rather than the actual outcome. She could’ve killed 20+ people EASILY. Gas stations are super busy at night. She could’ve killed children, babies. This is absurd and disgusting and will only encourage MORE drunk driving because people think, “well shit the punishment is light, oh well I’ll just drive myself” when if it was 10+ years people wouldn’t even take the chance. They’d just automatically get an Uber.
@@emsa5034 I mean, she needed to be out to make money and pay for the damage.
Less than the criminal charges she received (4)! I bet it's because she didn't even try to pretend she wasn't guilty and probably cried at the judge. The neighbors all seem like incredibly nice people, not the types to write letters urging the judge to spank her with a long sentence. Then again...the longer someone spends in jail, the less time and money they have to pay off your busted windows.
@@snowmorgan4115 im sorry but to me drunk driving is/should be a attempted murder charge at the very minimum. there is very little to no acceptable reason to drive while under the influence of anything. as for who should pay for the damages im not sure, some can her immediate family.
The explosion made my heart drop… and NO ONE GOT HURT???? I.. unbelievable.
I'm not religious but that shirs a miracle since it happened at a house. She's lucky she didn't die or anyone in that house or neighbors
No one pass doesn't mean no one was hurt
Some pets were likely killed and several people were injured including neighbours and firefighters as they tried to evacuate the area.
@@LadyEzri It never said any animals died during the accident so maybe not but then again maybe so but i hope not because thats so sad 🫤☹️
And I say likely for the pets as a few were never found.
I lost everything in a fire. The worst is not the building, the lost of family pictures, heirlooms, pets, old books. Those are the kind of things no one can help you with. Things you can't buy. 21 years later and losing everything I had from her (I lost her at 19) still hurts the worst. She should pay.
Yep as an ex bartender here in California.. a bartender can be liable if they over serve somebody and they go out and hurt someone.
Same in New York.
Virginia too
So she couldn't afford to get a uber or hotel to sleep it off but she can afford to sue somebody? The parole board is already taking notes.
As a former paroled person I can tell you this: all that board wants to know is have you taken responsibility for your crimes, and do you show remorse. She is sunk. But a prison or jail can only hold you for your full sentence so three years she probably will do.
"It isn't my fault that I chose to drink way more than I should have, and blew up someones house with my ignorance. It is the vendors fault I made a bad decision."
No lady!! You have drain bamage!
Seriously and she’s gonna be back on the street soon… after not learning a mf thing 😅 wonderful
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@@0x0ism I reported all of their spam comments on most of the threads on the comment section of this video... like 😯 why spam nonsense? Should be spending more time with his therapist, or finding a therapist, something 🤔 🙄🤷♀️
@@0x0ism wym specifically that one? 😅
I live in East London and my dad has a shop just around the block from the house that got hit. We were at the Manson concert that night and we felt the explosion there, even through the concert chaos. It was absolutely insane. The power went out all over the city, even at my house which is not near downtown where it happened. This incident set our city into a frenzy because of the drunk driving. It’s a serious issue here and as a person who drives a lot I can say there are a lot of stupid people like her. I’m so glad you covered this topic, thank you for bringing light to this❤
The fact that nobody got hurt in that explosion is straight blessings.
Oh People got hurt, they just didn’t die. Though I heard some of there pets weren’t so lucky.
That woman is going to catch the HARDEST (legal) HANDS OF HER LIFE!
Imagine getting drunk and basically blowing up a neighborhood, then you wanna go off and sue the people that gave you the alcohol! The comparisons just write themselves at that point…
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@@danysanerd2383 I've seen this dude spam the same comment on tons of other people videos so clearly his music isn't as "fire" as he'd like to think if this is his way of advertising it.
Actually, at least in BC canada, because the venue sold her alcohol, they can be held legally responsible. The amount they can be held responsible for can vary based on situations.
Section 29 of the Ontario Liquor License Act prohibits the sale or supply of liquor to any person who or appears to be intoxicated.
Section 39 of the Act imposes a duty of care on commercial entities (this can include concerts) to any person who suffers injury or damages as a result of harm caused by an intoxicated patron.
A “duty of care” is owed by the server to ensure that alcohol is not served to an intoxicated guest, or that a guest is not served to the point of intoxication.
So basically, this company can be held legally responsible and have legal actions taken against them for this.
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My old boss was like this woman. She could drink 16 double raspberry vodkas in 3-4 hours and drive herself home. She thought it was perfectly fine since it was a short distance, only about 25-30 minutes.
That’s not a short distance. But wow that’s crazy. I feel like any distance is terrible most accidents happen in a 5-10 mile radius near your home.
My uncle is a habitual drunk. 10+ DUI's, license basically gone for life, and killed someone back in the late 90's. Was only driving 5 minutes from the bar to the house. He never learns and would never hold himself accountable. Some people are just terrible people. Death will be the only justice that is served. Anyone who drinks and drives should never be able to operate a vehicle ever again. But that wont happen.
@@dee27206 Yea, the distance itself was short (by the crow flies) but due to the roads and way home, it was a long drive. Even if the bar did everything correctly and limited her she would get drinks from others constantly. I made the mistake of driving her home one time, wish I didn't but at least she didn't drive that time.
@@tonetwotimes Exactly! There are other ways to get transportation than driving yourself. It's a privilege to share the road and drivers need to respect other drivers and pedestrians.
How do you know she drank like that? Did you work in a business that had a lot of alcohol around?
The fact her dad thought like that shows me exactly why she’s the kind of person that would get blasted drunk and get behind the wheel. What idiots
I can't even finish watching the video because this is so infuriating. Why is it commonplace that we no longer recognize that we are responsible for our own actions? It's always someone else's fault
Because taking responsibility for your own idiocy/assholishness is the mature thing to do...and people don't seem to want to grow up into mature adults
I'm so glad no one died because of what she did. That explosion was insane. I feel bad for the homeowners losing their house and whatever belongings were inside, but at least they still have their lives so they can rebuild. I can't imagine that'll be easy, but it's better than being dead.
It’s sad but we honestly need better public transit that will definitely stop a lot of people from driving drunk imo
@@Quix94 it’s their own decision tho…. Uber is available 24/7, is that not good enough?
@@Werk4Cash no sadly not as a lot people don’t want to buy Uber or Airbnbs plus when people drink they’re not logical what’s so ever and making driving the easiest solution of travel will continue to have this happen. It’s her fault yes but government can vastly reduce these outcomes with infrastructure
@@Werk4Cash playing devil’s advocate, Uber is EXPENSIVE. A lot of people will go drinking with their last $10/$20/$30 and intend to just find their way home when the time comes. I don’t drink, but my ex-friends shared this experience frequently.
This is absolutely insane, I really hope that judge laughs this case out of court.
@YeaMan well he was wrong
@YeaMan why did you spam comment the same thing like 11 times? 😆 Like- is it even true?
@YeaMan bot much
Its not actually a farfetched lawsuit, overserving someone as an establishment or even the bartender you are subject to liability in many states in the us. I was a bartender for years and was definitely warned you can be arrested for overserving someone or serving a minor.
@@yeaman3214 it was probably one of the fake TH-cam accounts lil bro. No way they cosigned this
It’s much easier to track how intoxicated a person is when you’re selling alcohol in a bar or a store as opposed to a concession stand in a stadium. I think people need to be accountable for their own crap
As a Canadian, I can attest to our justice system giving laughably light sentences for very serious offences. It's rather frustrating
I hope the lawsuit fails, I have no words for now gross this is
I almost hope it doesn’t cause then there can be a counter suit
She’d lose more money
@@sweethysteria8737 this implies she can even afford to pay the victims after the civil cases she's going to lose.
I saw a comment about the over serving law suit before that part of the video and I was like “okay I guess the bartender could have done more but it’s definitely not *their* fault that *she* did that,” and then I found out she was at a *concert???* Like how tf could the venue of done more in this case where there were thousands of people??? Like it’s different if it’s a bar with a few dozen patrons maybe, but this was a huge event…
putting her claim in the best possible light, she showed clear signs of being drunk when ordering, including slurred speech and the like and the bartender just didnt notice or care, served and took money. in which case she has a claim believe it or not (note, in my country she wouldnt have a claim against the catering service, the state would sue the catering service and likely revoke their alcohol license).
in the worst possible light she had friends or other people order for her after she was cut off, got caught, kicked out by the bouncers, drove off causing the crash and ensuing explosion and then tries to sue the venue and otherwise blast them on social media if they dont give in.
It's almost impossible at a concert venue, one that holds Manson concerts, so thousands of people, to monitor everyone's alcohol consumption. Especially when some people consume way too much but aren't the person buying it, or going to the concessions to purchase it.
The big venues have insurance, so it's not enforced as heavily unless it's blatant
Small venues have to be diligent or would face closures and shut downs or bankruptcy from not being able to afford the fines.
Even Alcohol commercials have to have a portion reminding you to consume responsibly in Canada, not sure about the states
@Shane Turner I've seen alcohol commercials that say "Please drink responsibly" but I remember it being more beer commercials. The only other commercials I've seen are whiskey/bourbon and a few vodkas here and there which might have fine print or something
I love how no one wants to take responsibility for their actions. Anything that happens now a days they see it as a pay day.
Because admitting that they're wrong is hard and throwing a temper tantrum is easy
I lived a few blocks away and the blast was so loud i thought the water heater in my house blew. Crazy to see more than local media talking about it
Can confirm, in most communities that I know of in Canada, when tragedy strikes, the whole community steps in to help. We had several floods in my city and they never had to ask for more volunteers. There was even a town in my same province which was burned completely to the ground and they had to actually ask people to stop donating clothes.
i swear canada isnt real sometimes but good to see some places still have communities like that :)
That's so sweet. I hate living in hell (America).
Wow. In my town of St. Louis there’d probably just be riots and looting lmao. Sad.
@@thaloblue you can move to canada
I live in Alaska and we share the same community mentality. Then again that's not very surprising considering we're more "Canadian" than "American" when it comes to lifestyle up here.
As a former bartended we were always trained to not overserve. If someone started to get sloppy we would cut them off. Although I don't think that she is owed any compensation from that venue, I could totally see the state/city revoking their license or fining them if it is proven that she was overserved.
Here's another thing. This happened at a concert, so if she went with a friend, she might have had said friend get her another drink to get her more drunk. Which again, wouldn't be on the venue, and even if she was thrown out for being too drunk, again, it's not their responsibility to make sure she didn't literally blow up a neighborhood.
There's waaay too many preventative measures for drunk driving for it to even make sense to sue a venue for overserving customers. Ubers, busses, etc... It should be entirely put on customers now for not taking preventative actions. Sure, bartenders should still cut customers off when they get too drunk but it's not their responsibility for how the customer chose to get home. The customer chose to drive there, drink, and the customer CHOSE to drive home. That's her own damn fault, not the venues.
Couldn't she just have someone else get her drinks?
@@nerdstop5025 I am not saying the venue is at fault here, obviously we don't know what happened and I tend to side with the bartenders in cases like this. But you are right, it is impossible to fully monitor every customer and it would be wildly unfair to punish them for another person's actions, especially after she has left their venue. I am just saying IF they were proven to serve irresponsibly, they could be in big trouble.
@@WtfPODIUM ah my bad, I agree, even though it's a super low chance they'll have to give anything
As someone who lives like 15 mins from where this happened it still blows my mind to have watched this happen a few years back and that was bad enough but then to recently hear about this is just insane to me. Like Atozy makes many good points especially when it comes to the fact that this lawsuit is going to do nothing to help her and will only serve to drag her name through even more dirt than it already has been.
I can completely relate. I'm suing the bar I got drunk at last night because the girl I hit on shot me down so I went outside and and totally hit on another chick in the parking lot. This chick tased me I fell down and broke my elbow. I'm suing the bar because they knew or should have known that I would make an ass out of myself if they served me alcohol.
A few years ago, on a quiet winter evening, I was eating dinner with my dad who was visiting, when we heard a LOUD boom. We rushed outside to find my neighbors how had literally exploded- gas leak. 3 people were inside, all escaped. One was uninjured but a teen girl and the father were severely injured- TBI, hearing loss, burns, etc.
It fucking destroyed a few of us who witnessed it. I rushed out and helped the kids- the injured dad was so upset we couldn’t calm him. I didn’t sleep for the next week, so I funneled my energy into crocheting blankets for the family. Family and friends helped me buy needed things for the kids, like pens that work well with injured hands and new toys.
I honestly don’t think I’ll ever get that out if my brain. Any of it.
Heck, she might as well go a step further and sue the company that made the brand(s) of alcohol she drank.
She wouldn't have to worry about getting a DUI if there was no alcohol to drink in the first place 🤷🏼♀️
next step car manufacturer suit 🤔
@@ologhai8559 after that, the people who live in the houses she blew up.
They wouldn't have lost their property if they didn't put it there. It's like they live there or something, how reckless of them
I'm CACKLIN XD
You're not far off, it's the reason all the Alcohol companies need to remind you to "drink responsibly" in their TV and radio ads in Canada.
If they didn't do that, they'd likely to liable under Canadian laws as well
can’t believe a lawyer would even take that case to fight for her. that’s crazy
Win or lose, that lawyer still gets paid
I unironically hope the Jury and Judge laughed her out of the court room when she tried suing the venue for her decision to drive home intoxicated
This actually happened in my hometown, in the neighborhood directly adjacent to mine. The noise was incredible and shook our house an insane amount. We were evacuated but allowed to return 2 days after. It was fucking nuts
This situation reminds me of "It's not me who did it, it's the alcohol who make me drunk beforehand. Blame the liquor for my accident."
I remember when i turned 18 that i was told from here on i would be responsible for my actions. But looking at social mediag i learned that some people never grow up
yea u get told that by adults that don’t even do so
I live about 2 hours from London and can confirm this was freaking crazy when it happened I remember watching the local news in complete shock.
No accountability? She must have inherited that trait from her father.
seeing how he's siding with her and defending her dumb ass, i agree lol
No accountability? She must have inherited that trait from her mother.
Most likely both
As a bartender in Canada...if you over serve someone to visible intoxication and they drive and something happens...myself and the establishment all can be held liable. Huge fines and I can lose my license to serve alcohol. That's by the law tho. Liquor inspectors come in, check cameras and tils. If you remove someone for being drunk you have to call a cab and make sure they get in. After that you are no longer responsible
It's crazier, they are your responsibility until they get home. According to smart serve
Does this also count towards the concert venues? If they throw someone out for being drunk or being a trouble maker, is the concert venue still responsible for calling an taxi? If so would they pay for the ride or what?
Sorry about all the questions. I never went to a bar before and I don't drink that much. I just drink at home.
@@HakuFreak19 random question but is there a reason you have never been to a bar?
@@maggiee639 I don't had any friends that goes drinking. Also I feel uncomfortable if I went alone. The main reason is that my husband doesn't drink anymore he quit drinking 10 years ago (he's 31) he did a lot of underage drinking when he was young.
@@HakuFreak19 that makes sense, I was curious how an adult person avoids ending up at a bar sometimes even if they don’t drink but what you said makes sense.
This is in Canada. And May get thrown out.
I was corralled into a lawsuit (along with 12 others) when a single guy was sued ….who worked in the same BUILDING as I did. I had nothing to do with his business and only knew him as “a dude who worked in my building”.
They knew he didn’t have deep pockets.
They wrangled as many “businesses” (who had insurance policies) as possible so they could force mediation.
It costs me 25,000 and three years for my attorney just to answer all the bulls@*t letters/hearing/discovery.
At mediation my business insurance was forced to pay $50,000 just to settle.
I was faced with spending more than 25,000 to prove this is ridiculous and risk getting a judgement against me some how.
The insurance company would NOT help pay for the trial and ONLY would pay a settlement.
Me and 12 others had to pay $50,000 to settle and remove ourselves from possibly getting a large judgement against us.
That attorney knew how to manipulate the system.
If this is a US case……don’t ever think a lawsuit is too egregious. I am $75,000 proof it is about settling the money grab…..and never about truth or responsibility.
Crazy to see you cover this! I lived a few blocks from the explosion at the time, on the 10th floor of an apartment that faced in that direction. Craziest thing I’ve ever seen, shook the entire building.
The fact that she is trying to sue is a slap in the face. Take responsibility for your own actions. It’s no one else’s fault but her own. Smh
as i Canadian who lives a in Kitchener Ontario just down the highway from London i'm shocked and pissed at what she did. She is almost as bad as the young mother who i saw on the bus the other week who taught her 4 year old daughter to swear and the child swore at another person
Honestly her getting drunk enough to be singled out and ejected from a Marilyn Manson concert is impressive. I didn't know that was possible to be honest. No wonder she would drive drunk and literally blew up a whole neighborhood.
I'm shocked they didn't blame Marilyn Manson.
this was totally due to Marilyn Manson's satanism shake my smh my head my head /s
Lol this should be the top comment 🤣
I don’t like the drugs but the drugs like me lol
The judge is gonna take one look at this lawsuit, laugh their ass off, and then throw it out.
I hope. But with the idiocy of this judge only giving 3-5 years when she could’ve killed 20+ people including children or babies, I don’t have much hope.
I worked for a convenience store chain for over a decade. It is true, if you serve someone alcholol when they are clearly intoxicated you can be held liable depending on your location
I like how this title can apply to 90% of failures on the internet.
That’s like her suing the gas meter company for putting the meter in her way and blowing up the neighborhood
I just wanted to say that I had an incredibly rough day today, and binging your videos helped me get through it. Thanks for being you bud ❤️
It’s truly a miracle that nobody was unalived in that neighborhood
I live in Ontario Canada. And you have to be 18 or 19 (19 is when you can drink here) to serve alcohol. You need to pay for a license to become certified to be able to serve alcohol. Even so much as handing a guest a drink or just ringing it thru. In the training I went thru, there’s a big emphasis on over serving and it states that if you over serve someone here and they drive drunk you can be legally responsible.
How do you know you over-served someone?
Yeah this is the first thing I thought too. Doesn't excuse her actions, but being overserved is certainly a legal issue here in Canada.
@@realafah they teach about all the signs of intoxication and they also teach you how to calculate someone’s blood alcohol content
There are exceptions though, aren’t there? Like concerts or smth like that? I’d be majorly impressed at any bartender managing to remember a crowd of ppls intoxication level.
@@jessiec2220 it's not always easy to tell, especially at a concert and such.
Heck, my brother lives with me at the moment, and he's a major alcoholic. Sometimes I can tell he's drunk, but that only after spending a couple minutes around him.
It's hard to tell sometimes because he's always a angry idiot whose inconsiderate of other people and their feelings, and laughs at the stupidest things and mumbles to himself.
He acts literally the same when he's drunk.
Plus, he does his best to stay as high as a kite all the time so it doesn't help to identify if he walks weird or speaks a certain way because he's high or drunk.
This is with a guy I live with every damn day, I commend those who can tell when one random stranger they see for at least a minute has rea he'd their limit
It's sad but true here in Ontario we have a certificate called smart serve that you need to pass to be able to sell alcohol like be a bartender and basically you are responsible to make sure that you're not overserving anyone and letting anyone become intoxicated in proximity becomes your responsibility if someone gets drunk And drives in my town somebody overserved someone at a bar and they drove into a fish and chip shop and the drunk driver sued the bar that he left and won unfortunately
While I can see the logic behind the law, I can't help but still see so many flaws in it, especially if it extends to venues (I think it does in some places). I promotes healthy bartending habits to stop serving your patrons when they've obviously had too much, but I feel there's too many ways to get around it for the patrons
I remember hearing about this back when it happened (I live in southern ontario). Never followed the news on it though. Yikes.
Good lord, she's even from my city. Why am I not surprised.
I'm pretty sure no Canadian judge will even bother with this. We do have safe serve laws, but this is not one of those cases. What I do hope comes out of this, is that she's never allowed to have a license again.
Man, my best friend of 14 years did this exact same shit. He only did a WEEKEND in jail. In fact, it's like they didnt even care that he destroyed a home, instead they used him to help shut the bar down.
I remember this. I'm canadian
I'm glad no one was hurt though
not sure about Canada, but in certain states bartenders, the bar or restaurant, venue serving alcohol can also be held liable to a certain extent. does it paint the best picture in regards to her stupidity and lack of accountability? no.
In Canada, yes, the establishment and employees can be held liable for any incidents after being served alcohol. However, there needs to be proof they knowingly overserved someone.
How the hell would you keep track?? You’re serving a ton of people. Maybe like a punch card??
@em sa honestly I don't even know how they would investigate something like this situation. In smaller situations they would maybe use security cameras to place the individual.
I live in Ontario, and there was a case of drunk driving teens near me. They went to a bar with fake IDs, and drank in the parking lot as well as in the bar. They hit a rock cut driving home, and two of the four kids in the car died. The bar ended up losing their liquor license and the bartender actually got charged with criminal negligence causing death.
Yes in Ontario, Canada you need a license to sell and serve alcohol. The course you have to take does stress that you can be held liable if you overserve. I don't necessarily agree with it, though.
Okay, here's the thing. I go hard at concerts sometimes. But I ALWAYS go with my sister, who's my DD. we take turns being the DD, depending on who got drunk last time, who's a bigger fan of the group (sometimes I drag her to concerts and she'll drag me). It's safer knowing you're there with someone who would be able to go home, because those people see so many people that they can't keep track of those who seem more intoxicated, especially at bigger venues. It's so easy not to drive drunk. They have no responsibility after she leaves the venue.
@atozy, while I am not in Canada, I have heard of similar instances (not to this degree) where a venue is liable for an incident that happened at the person's property. The reason, the intoxicated person was drinking at the venue and the incident took place within 5km radius of the venue,
Similar things can happen here when I was taking my liquor license to become a bartender and they told us about a story where a woman was served too much alcohol, went out and drove,and killed somebody. And the bartender was also charged too. So it's not rare, but it's very fair.
thats so unfair lol.
Not fair at all fym
Yeah sorry but that is far from fair. The bartender is just doing their job, serving paying customers. It's not their responsibility to prevent patrons from making stupid decisions. Frankly once they exit the building they are not the bar's problem, they are an adult after all . The woman in this case had tons of options besides driving herself, and I refuse to take the impairment caused by said drinking as an excuse for bad judgement.
You can think that but dig deeper. There are laws within that would shock you. And yes bartenders are taught to cut ppl off. So again they do play a role in the decision making. You can be mad all you want, I'm just stating facts. Don't believe me? Take the damn Course yourself.
Just like when excise(spelling) comes in and they find a waitress for serving under alcohol underage, the owner of the establishment will also get a ticket along with the waitress. Can't call me a liar there, bc I've been in that situation personally.
The lawsuit is definitely a Hail Mary to pay for some of her other lawsuits. She is probably hoping the venue would just settle out of court to avoid the bad pr and the time/money it takes to fight a case
I was actually on my way home from a concert in Toronto when this happened but was talking to friends in a group chat (we all did theatre together) that lived in this neighbourhood right after it went down. People that were blocks away felt it and one of the people I know was just down the street from it. It was crazy driving by there days after it happened. The community really stepped up.
Watching the ppl at the end say there were more pros than cons to having their neighborhood annihilated was the definition of optimism.
"should I call 911?"
Nah. I'm sure it will be ok and put itself out.
Oh wow!!! Just wow!!! I hope you guys and the new baby are doing good, as well!!! Stay safe out there y'all!!
There was a past situation where a Woman working for a Realty company in Barrie Ontario sued her employer for allowing her to drive home drunk after the company Christmas party. Her boss told her not to drive after the party and tried to arrange a ride for her, but she chose to drive home through a snowstorm. The case was settled out of court.
I mean in the states you can be held accountable if you continue serving drinks to someone who well past drunk. However this particular case seems like a bit of a stretch, fwiw I don't know anything about Canadian prop/casualty claims
People cant take responsibility for anything now. How pathetic
Ontario based bartender here! I work at a large concert venue a couple hours away from where this happened and unfortunately because of our stupid liquor laws she may have a case. We are legally responsible for every single person that we serve until the moment that they become sober, which is absolutely insane!
Seems like an attorney move. “Hey we know you can’t pay all these civil cases, you’re gonna need to get the money from somewhere”
have you ever done a story on angelica mendez. the woman who made up a story that a random family was abusing their adopted daughter and almost had the department of youth services remove her from their home ?
Always the best from Atozy!!
damn, you must've watched the video at like 50x speed to commment it this fast
This is waaaaaay too common in the Kitchener, Waterloo area. It’s well known that one of the restaurants here served someone alcohol, they drove drunk, and the person came back at the restaurant for serving them and allowing them to drive. The restaurant now has a two per person serving limit.
I'm not shocked that someone would WANT to sue over such a ludicrous reason, but I am shocked that any lawyer that values their time would take on a case like this thinking it could actually be won.
So… time to start suing alcohol and car companies. She might as well sue the gas company to.
Love to see how people make it worse……
I'm from this town and this shook our city so much. It happened in our downtown core. She can blame budwieser gardens but they have great security and staff. She's so irresponsible and needs to take blame. Our communities really came together quickly to help out all families involved
I'm TABC certified. And in the US you have to be certified and trained to serve drink and food at any type of venue or bar. The case might make it to trial at the very least. The first thing they drill into you is not to over serve. If I over serve and they die or kill someone else I can get a fine and up to a year in jail. I've managed big events. All servers are certified and trained to pull a manager if someone looks too intoxicated so they can monitor them and/or cut them off. You know give them water or food. Call them a cab if needed. It's a coordinated effort. Yes. You are responsible for your own actions. She definitely deserved prison. This may set a precedent and actually change regulations in the UK if they already don't train and certify servers. At the very least acknowledge that both sides share some sort of accountability. If I invite you to my house party and you die, don't you think your family is coming after me for justice and compensation?? You may lose but you'll be pissed enough to try.
Holy fuck its weird to see you cover this! I've been watching your videos forever and I actually lived a few blocks over when this happened, I thought the world was ending.
So they went out their way to find her in the crowd of people to force her to drink?
I was charged with a DUI. I hit another car and totaled my own and permanently injured myself. Nobody else was hurt and even their car had only very minor cosmetic damage. It was my fault completely. I’ve never felt more heartbroken at something I’ve done. I couldn’t imagine trying to blame somebody else for you knowingly driving drunk.
Accountability and Responsibility are like Kryptonite to the modern person.
I mean i never heard anyone really confess openly to a crime without taking investigators through loop holes, for obvious reasons.
There is a huge difference between obtaining evidence for due process, and holding someone else accountable for someone else's decisions.
I really hope she gets the justice she deserves. She needs to not only get the money from the bouncers failing to protect her but everyone else that allowed this to happen should be punished too.
Absolutely appalling that the beer bottle hasn't been tried for attempted murder at this point.
The lengths people go to avoid taking responsibility for their own poor choices is astounding.
This is like trying to sue McDonald's for making you fat
Lmao fr, no one told you to go to McDonalds everyday and order 20 big macs. The equivalent can be said for bars.
Someones gonna read this comment and sue McDonalds
She certainly looks the part.
@Ax I think someone did quite a while back...don't quote me on that but I think they sued McDonald's over their weight and unhealthiness
I live here in London Ontario and I had NO idea that this had happened. Almost everything I hear is about a new dead homeless individual found in a park.
Is a concert venue even _allowed_ to forcibly take someone's keys or do anything besides follow her out, see her get in her car, and call the police?
By this reasoning, the sale or offer of any alcoholic beverage should not be permitted to any person in any public setting or venue? Just because of what might happen in the future after consuming alcohol? That's like me suing a car dealer for selling me a car that I might end up crashing in the future just because I chose to drive it on a public road with other people around, and saying I would have not crashed if I was not sold the vehicle to drive in the first place. If a person buys alcohol at a venue and chooses to down 3 or 4 drinks in a three minute period, there would not be an indicator of intoxication present because it takes time to take effect after consuming. Or the possibility a person has built up a tolerance to alcohol making it difficult to spot impairment.
I’ve been trained and served alcohol for 5 years about 6 years ago. If I remembered right we were all warned that it was possible to be liable for over serving people.
It's people that sue companies like that that force companies to start taking precautions to where its just no longer fun to go to events...
LOL I remember when this happened, at the time I lived three blocks away. Crazy to hear you talking about my hometown!!!
Oh god I remember this. This is my Hometown. Unfortunately in Canada places that serve alcohol can be held liable for drunk driving accidents that occur but it doesn't happen that often.
Either the gap between the properties was really wide or the Gas Line for the building was along the wall facing the Avenue. Most houses these days have the Gas Line entering through the side walls. Was likely not the case for this building due to its age, but utilities do get upgraded overtime, even for residential properties.
I LIVE in LONDON Ontario!!!! And not far from where this happened. She is so lucky nobody was killed and the entire city thinks she got off way too easy. She was not remorseful at all and is just an awful person for what she did and took no responsibility
You know, 10 years ago I could see this flying in court. But now with Lift and Uber there is no way for a event space, venue, or bar(although bars are probably better about it) to keep tabs on it. This is ridiculous.
In VA you can sue the company for stuff like this. Literally took a class to make sure I don't over-serve people.