Eddie Howe doesn't seem to want to sell players we have to many in their thirties that aren't going to bring in fees should of been moved on. Remember the players Keegan sold to move club on Kelly, Hotiger, Cole etc.
I understand Eddie doesn’t want to release too many players for continuity. However, this next 2 months might be the most important period in the history of Newcastle.
Taking my toon hat off for a minute. I’d say the two Arsenal home wins we got were strong defensive performances (Arsenal fans will say negative) and Arsenal didn’t have their Captain and playmaker in either game. The game we lost was when Odegaard played and scored. Basically we always need to score first or we are fooked against them.
I personally think buying in January is better than the summer. Everything in the summer happens in thr last week up to the last few mins, could never understand why leave it so late? Wouldn't surprise me if EH is pushing for a new deal for dubz.
It's said that January is difficult for transfers, but we failed last preseason. Mitchell was brought in to fix this, it's now or never. PSR is prominent but not unworkable. Spend money, remove dead wood.
I’ve got a sneaky prawn feeling that this January window is going to be quite busy. Firstly, city are going to inject a load of cash into the market ‘cos they’re going to spend. Secondly, the lack of activity during the summer was because nervousness about PSR as the deadline was looming. That won’t apply in January. We’ll see, I guess. Quick word about Longstaff. I guy I know who’s an actual pro football coach said if we sell Longy a lot of clubs will be interested in him. He said this in response to the question of is he any good.
Lads have you investigated the reason why PIF are not fighting the PSR rules in court, we know they could back someone maybe NUST or the fan club. Do they have the stomach for a fight as the fans did for the takeover.
@ they can go to court for anti competitive behaviour, the City case introduced a letter signed by 14 clubs against us at a league meeting about us that we were not invited to. It’s an open goal.
You 2 journalists know it's notoriously difficult to sign good players mid-season. The chances of us signing any first team players is low and the chances of us signing 2 is probably nil. Its more likely will sign nobody for the first team, some people are going to be super angry and disappointed at the end of the window, they really need to temper expectations.
Being realistic guys, when do you think there might be some serious changes to the PSR rules to make them more fit for purpose? I understand they were introduced in an attempt to stop clubs over-spending and going bust, like Leeds nearly did for example,, but football ownership is so different these days, surely the rules should be more bespoke to each clubs specific situation?
They changed to that seeding things so the big teams get to the final. Your head tells you it’s an Arsenal vs Liverpool final. That means we’ve got nothing to lose and need to go for it
Guys, selling academy graduates is how it’s going to go. Don’t get attached to any of them. Hopefully, when this situation becomes so obviously dominant in the way clubs finance themselves there may be action taken. But until then…….
Sandro Tonali is not a number six and Bruno is not a number eight. Eddie has been developing the roles of the central m/f and it’s now starting to work but it’s NOT a simple six and eight situation. You way an example? Tonali score two last time I saw them.
The only way we get proper PSR headroom is to trade a bigger name, although I hate PSR rules, currently I would sell Bruno. Think we will win against Ipswich
Dom, I seriously hope that your "How is that that bad a situation" words don't come back to haunt you/us " I get why we need to sell & under normal circumstances would agree but Eddie isn't playing Vlachodimos for a reason. Almiron has to go.
Lads, do you think player wages and transfer fees would ever go down? Do you think a salary cap and transfer fee cap would overcome PSR issues? As long as players are considered as some kind of financial asset, there is no chance any smaller club would break the cartel's monopoly. Further, how do you expect the club to continue buying players of Isak's calibre? None of Bruno, Botman, Isak or Gordon will now be affordable to us if they were playing for other teams. The toon does not simply have the resources of other teams. The region is not wealthy, and the club has simply been not successful for a long time not to dine out on past reputation like Manchester United. We need to adjust our expectations, and keep hold of our players and get the best out of them. Invest in the young ones, and turn them at least into the likes of Elliot Anderson.
Tonali would have the opportunity to prove he is better than Nicolo Barella next month at Arsenal. He would have to be the talisman Bruno is and lead the toon at a hostile ground.
Newcastle point of view aside. How is PSR helping the game at all?? Somthing needs to change. Incentivising selling young players is absolutely ludicrous.
this side in that side out.. GoodBye to cover men signed off loan expiring contracts.. Good men past the prem or euro quality. Stop by the shop get the winter sweater and knit caps.. I think you are fien until you park your Ferrari in Maddogs spot.
Anderson was sold because we had overspent with PSR so having academy players coming through would be fantastic if we don’t overspend, as they would be a free player and can be sold on later for full profit , are recruitment and spending hurt us , I understand the first years to stop relegation but they kept spending until the reality kicked in and we found ourselves in a 70 million black hole and we don’t know if it’s over , the management need to get to grips with PSR and I think that’s why we didn’t spend in the summer and I can’t see it in Jan , we signed pivas get him here , or sell him like Osula if he’s not good enough sell him , longstaff sell we should of sold burn and Schar tripps target the list is endless and now old players at their careers end worth nothing or contract will run out with big wages , Mitchell was right it wasn’t fit for purpose,
@ so why did we sell and why do we still have to sell and why didn’t we buy ahh that’s it because the players you named cost so much it put us in a black hole and now we can’t afford to spend more on players so yes it wasn’t fit for purpose, same people who defend this are the same people shouting why can’t we spend why aren’t we a top 4 team , where is the 70 million for guehi ,the money wasn’t there it would of ment selling Barnes miggy longstaff trips Wilson to balance the books that’s PSR , it’s a rolling 3 so what ever we spent 3 year ago is what the hole is we are in this year , we have sold nobody for profit as Anderson and minty got sold to balance the 70 million hole , yes we got good players but we are paying the price for it , so if we sell Bruno or isak so we can buy other players or just to balance the books remember you say it was fit for purpose if it had of been we wouldn’t of sold Anderson or minty, it’s basic math
Psr is akin to killing the goose that lays the golden egg which is totally stupid in my opinion. Just watch manure spend again without ever worrying about said shite rule.
Pinch of salt Dom…😂…bucket you mean…Howe is going to keep tight lipped as if he said aye we are looking 👀 for a RW means bye bye Miggy! We will need a top quality RW in January even if yee say Jordan it’s difficult….as we stand a better chance of beating Arsenal and then probably Livarpool in February for the illusive trophy 🏆 🎉
Got to stop taking Eddie at his word especially on transfers. He isn’t going to tell you anything and there’s Jordan hanging on every word! A player could be next door doing a medical and Eddie would tell you we have no interest. Bakayoko Trafford New CB ALL likely to come in. Longstaff out for £15mil, Miley promoted as well.
Why didn't someone ask Eddie where the money from the aborted Geuhi deal went? All well and good blaming PSR for everything but we are not fools. Personally though, I'm taking a points deduction every day of the week if it allows us to bring in a player or two that wins us our first trophy in 55 years!
i,m sick of all this negativity surrounding the arsenal game ..if you want to win trophies you,ve got to beat the best end of ,,now stop f,n whinging people
At the end of the day, you guys would be so much better if you were 'braver' than the other social media crap you get. Stop being so 'fickle'. Lead the way and show other social media crap 'the way forward'. 😊
I think we are in another black hole with finance again like last year PSR is doing what they wanted it to do , stop us spending, no matter what we think of Amanda and co they did us no favors with PSR by buying big price players yes we got to the champions league but it’s cost us so much and set us back, I can see us not spending again and if we don’t spend I hope the fans don’t get upset, especially the fans that don’t want a new stadium and don’t want to rename the stadium so they have can’t complain that we don’t have the revenue, we have made 280 million this year the likes of man city and Man U ect are making between 700-900 million so how can we compete with this PSR bull 💩 so we need a new stadium and let them re name it and do what they can to bring in more revenue, APT rules can help us more now but it’s just not enough to let us spend on big name players,
@ then the buying of players wasn’t good because we couldn’t afford them that’s why we had the 70m black hole you can’t have one without the other , we can’t say we bought well , what happened if minty was shit , then a Gordon or Bruno would of been sold then how bad would it have looked as it nearly did so no the buying of them players wasn’t good as it didnt balance the books and we are paying the price now , Mitchell was 100% right, we can’t sell players nobody wants because they are either useless or old or injury prone, they don’t just become 20-30m players to generate 30mil we would have to sell miggy longstaff a keeper and maybe someone else but we are talking 60 70 million players to come in , it doesn’t work , we over spent we should of bought young players and slowly improved over a few seasons while they build bigger revenue, but we didn’t and Eddie and Amanda wanted to buy 50-60mil on players because of expectations well now we pay the pice ,
Eddie Howe doesn't seem to want to sell players we have to many in their thirties that aren't going to bring in fees should of been moved on. Remember the players Keegan sold to move club on Kelly, Hotiger, Cole etc.
Great podcast fellas, been really impressed with our 2 wins, hopefully continue to play well tomorrow at Ipswich ⚫️⚪️
I'm sensing the links are all lies and we'll do nothing until the summer.
But the links are 99% tabloid cobblers always. The club haven’t made any links with anyone.
@geordiedog1749 well we don't know that. We know two thirds of nothing.
Jan transfers are restricted to opportunistic signs, like Anthony Gordon was. Off load squad players and small cash in pays for a winger amortised 😅
Let's hope it's that simple!
- D
The PSR situation is now down to Eales and Co. Why hasnt the stadium been sponsored for the past 3 years ... absolute madness.
I understand Eddie doesn’t want to release too many players for continuity. However, this next 2 months might be the most important period in the history of Newcastle.
Taking my toon hat off for a minute. I’d say the two Arsenal home wins we got were strong defensive performances (Arsenal fans will say negative) and Arsenal didn’t have their Captain and playmaker in either game. The game we lost was when Odegaard played and scored. Basically we always need to score first or we are fooked against them.
I think in January when a decision on our stadium is made, they will also announce naming rights, everton just got £250 million
Nice colour co-ordination guys. Form over function every time!
I personally think buying in January is better than the summer. Everything in the summer happens in thr last week up to the last few mins, could never understand why leave it so late? Wouldn't surprise me if EH is pushing for a new deal for dubz.
It's said that January is difficult for transfers, but we failed last preseason. Mitchell was brought in to fix this, it's now or never. PSR is prominent but not unworkable. Spend money, remove dead wood.
I’ve got a sneaky prawn feeling that this January window is going to be quite busy.
Firstly, city are going to inject a load of cash into the market ‘cos they’re going to spend. Secondly, the lack of activity during the summer was because nervousness about PSR as the deadline was looming. That won’t apply in January. We’ll see, I guess.
Quick word about Longstaff. I guy I know who’s an actual pro football coach said if we sell Longy a lot of clubs will be interested in him. He said this in response to the question of is he any good.
Lads have you investigated the reason why PIF are not fighting the PSR rules in court, we know they could back someone maybe NUST or the fan club. Do they have the stomach for a fight as the fans did for the takeover.
There’s no where to go legally at the moment. It may be unfair but that’s not enough legally.
@ they can go to court for anti competitive behaviour, the City case introduced a letter signed by 14 clubs against us at a league meeting about us that we were not invited to. It’s an open goal.
@garyd7039 clubs cannot take the Premier league to court ... only arbitration.
@ that’s why I said back NUST or the Supporters club there are no rules stopping that as confirmed by Nick De marco.
Enjoyable pod lads
You 2 journalists know it's notoriously difficult to sign good players mid-season. The chances of us signing any first team players is low and the chances of us signing 2 is probably nil. Its more likely will sign nobody for the first team, some people are going to be super angry and disappointed at the end of the window, they really need to temper expectations.
Champaign post 😂
Thanks for sharing your thoughts 👍
Going to watch Bakayoko highlights now 😎👍
Being realistic guys, when do you think there might be some serious changes to the PSR rules to make them more fit for purpose? I understand they were introduced in an attempt to stop clubs over-spending and going bust, like Leeds nearly did for example,, but football ownership is so different these days, surely the rules should be more bespoke to each clubs specific situation?
They changed to that seeding things so the big teams get to the final. Your head tells you it’s an Arsenal vs Liverpool final. That means we’ve got nothing to lose and need to go for it
Guys, selling academy graduates is how it’s going to go. Don’t get attached to any of them. Hopefully, when this situation becomes so obviously dominant in the way clubs finance themselves there may be action taken. But until then…….
Sandro Tonali is not a number six and Bruno is not a number eight. Eddie has been developing the roles of the central m/f and it’s now starting to work but it’s NOT a simple six and eight situation. You way an example? Tonali score two last time I saw them.
Don’t you think Tonali would make a superb captain once he has had a few more months to settle?
I do
The only way we get proper PSR headroom is to trade a bigger name, although I hate PSR rules, currently I would sell Bruno. Think we will win against Ipswich
And me mate
Sell Bruno? He’s the only player I wouldn’t sell (maybe Hall and Barnes because their value will likely rise)
If Dubravka goes then how long till Pope returns?
Most PL players, who we may get in January will already be cup tied
Dom, I seriously hope that your "How is that that bad a situation" words don't come back to haunt you/us "
I get why we need to sell & under normal circumstances would agree but Eddie isn't playing Vlachodimos for a reason.
Almiron has to go.
There's no point in having five goalkeepers if you're only willing to play two.
- D
How can you sell Dubravka when he's playing when Pope is injured, surely that indicates that he's the best of the rest?
sensible for psr suggestion in giving incentives for playing home grown... give that man a job at the fa
Matt Targett should go in January too
Too much at stake not to sign anyone in January. Sell players if needed to help finance a move for Bakayoko, including Longstaff and/or Barnes.
Doesn't seem like we will sign anyone in January 😔😔
Lads, do you think player wages and transfer fees would ever go down? Do you think a salary cap and transfer fee cap would overcome PSR issues? As long as players are considered as some kind of financial asset, there is no chance any smaller club would break the cartel's monopoly.
Further, how do you expect the club to continue buying players of Isak's calibre? None of Bruno, Botman, Isak or Gordon will now be affordable to us if they were playing for other teams. The toon does not simply have the resources of other teams. The region is not wealthy, and the club has simply been not successful for a long time not to dine out on past reputation like Manchester United. We need to adjust our expectations, and keep hold of our players and get the best out of them. Invest in the young ones, and turn them at least into the likes of Elliot Anderson.
Tonali would have the opportunity to prove he is better than Nicolo Barella next month at Arsenal. He would have to be the talisman Bruno is and lead the toon at a hostile ground.
its a good draw, its NOT liverpool
If we want to win a cup...WE HAVE TOO BEAT ANY/ALL Teams
Lets buy Jobe Bellingham and do nowt with him
Newcastle point of view aside. How is PSR helping the game at all?? Somthing needs to change.
Incentivising selling young players is absolutely ludicrous.
this side in that side out.. GoodBye to cover men signed off loan expiring contracts.. Good men past the prem or euro quality. Stop by the shop get the winter sweater and knit caps.. I think you are fien until you park your Ferrari in Maddogs spot.
If we dont buy anyone in january i may swear quite a lot 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Get your swear box ready, I don't think there'll be much done in January and it doesn't sound like Eddie thinks there will either
Anderson was sold because we had overspent with PSR so having academy players coming through would be fantastic if we don’t overspend, as they would be a free player and can be sold on later for full profit , are recruitment and spending hurt us , I understand the first years to stop relegation but they kept spending until the reality kicked in and we found ourselves in a 70 million black hole and we don’t know if it’s over , the management need to get to grips with PSR and I think that’s why we didn’t spend in the summer and I can’t see it in Jan , we signed pivas get him here , or sell him like Osula if he’s not good enough sell him , longstaff sell we should of sold burn and Schar tripps target the list is endless and now old players at their careers end worth nothing or contract will run out with big wages , Mitchell was right it wasn’t fit for purpose,
Not fit for purpose but we ended up with Pope. Trippier, Tino, Burn, Bottman, Hall, Isak, Tonali, Gordon (& Minteh) ? Do me a favour.
@ so why did we sell and why do we still have to sell and why didn’t we buy ahh that’s it because the players you named cost so much it put us in a black hole and now we can’t afford to spend more on players so yes it wasn’t fit for purpose, same people who defend this are the same people shouting why can’t we spend why aren’t we a top 4 team , where is the 70 million for guehi ,the money wasn’t there it would of ment selling Barnes miggy longstaff trips Wilson to balance the books that’s PSR , it’s a rolling 3 so what ever we spent 3 year ago is what the hole is we are in this year , we have sold nobody for profit as Anderson and minty got sold to balance the 70 million hole , yes we got good players but we are paying the price for it , so if we sell Bruno or isak so we can buy other players or just to balance the books remember you say it was fit for purpose if it had of been we wouldn’t of sold Anderson or minty, it’s basic math
Psr is akin to killing the goose that lays the golden egg which is totally stupid in my opinion. Just watch manure spend again without ever worrying about said shite rule.
Pinch of salt Dom…😂…bucket you mean…Howe is going to keep tight lipped as if he said aye we are looking 👀 for a RW means bye bye Miggy! We will need a top quality RW in January even if yee say Jordan it’s difficult….as we stand a better chance of beating Arsenal and then probably Livarpool in February for the illusive trophy 🏆 🎉
Got to stop taking Eddie at his word especially on transfers. He isn’t going to tell you anything and there’s Jordan hanging on every word!
A player could be next door doing a medical and Eddie would tell you we have no interest.
Bakayoko
Trafford
New CB
ALL likely to come in. Longstaff out for £15mil, Miley promoted as well.
Why didn't someone ask Eddie where the money from the aborted Geuhi deal went? All well and good blaming PSR for everything but we are not fools. Personally though, I'm taking a points deduction every day of the week if it allows us to bring in a player or two that wins us our first trophy in 55 years!
i,m sick of all this negativity surrounding the arsenal game ..if you want to win trophies you,ve got to beat the best end of ,,now stop f,n whinging people
At the end of the day, you guys would be so much better if you were 'braver' than the other social media crap you get.
Stop being so 'fickle'.
Lead the way and show other social media crap 'the way forward'. 😊
I think we are in another black hole with finance again like last year PSR is doing what they wanted it to do , stop us spending, no matter what we think of Amanda and co they did us no favors with PSR by buying big price players yes we got to the champions league but it’s cost us so much and set us back, I can see us not spending again and if we don’t spend I hope the fans don’t get upset, especially the fans that don’t want a new stadium and don’t want to rename the stadium so they have can’t complain that we don’t have the revenue, we have made 280 million this year the likes of man city and Man U ect are making between 700-900 million so how can we compete with this PSR bull 💩 so we need a new stadium and let them re name it and do what they can to bring in more revenue, APT rules can help us more now but it’s just not enough to let us spend on big name players,
Fancy seeing you here pal🤣
Hit a brick wall. All the acquisitions are good and worth more, the issue has been selling
I do comment from time to time , 😂🤣😂 I will catch you later on TTR
@ defo mate
@ then the buying of players wasn’t good because we couldn’t afford them that’s why we had the 70m black hole you can’t have one without the other , we can’t say we bought well , what happened if minty was shit , then a Gordon or Bruno would of been sold then how bad would it have looked as it nearly did so no the buying of them players wasn’t good as it didnt balance the books and we are paying the price now , Mitchell was 100% right, we can’t sell players nobody wants because they are either useless or old or injury prone, they don’t just become 20-30m players to generate 30mil we would have to sell miggy longstaff a keeper and maybe someone else but we are talking 60 70 million players to come in , it doesn’t work , we over spent we should of bought young players and slowly improved over a few seasons while they build bigger revenue, but we didn’t and Eddie and Amanda wanted to buy 50-60mil on players because of expectations well now we pay the pice ,