Building Dreams Part 2 | Air intake and supercharger pulley upgrade!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2020
- Disclaimer : I have no idea what I'm doing! LOL
... I did start working on my car and got carried away with the small improvements I am able to make myself .
Honestly nervous about the car ever running again...
But
I'm so excited for whats to come.
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Removing the factory bypass valve requires installing a blowoff valve of some sort. The excess boost pressure has to be bled off somewhere other than in the intake manifold. Example, when you're going from 6500 rpm and full throttle then taking your foot off the accelerator pedal. The supercharger is still making lots of boost as the rpms are slowing down but the throttle body is closed.
Clever young man and brave enough to have a go.
Your an amazing man, not enough people show this car being worked on.
I’m new to cars & merc in general so this is a banger
Looks great brotha! 🔥💪🏼
Awe...really dig your videos..shot.
If the throttle open up, will it be air leaks to the air filter? I did a restrictor for m111. Can u give the dimensions of the intercooler.....
Maybe put the air filter a bit to the front with an extended pipe. Right now you are probably sucking in warm air from the engine and limiting the air mass going into the supercharger.
Jack Swallow Thanks for the advice 😎 agreed👌 I had to reuse the MAF bracket for now. Will definitely have to change that if it’s robbing me of free POWER🤪🤣
How much oil needed in that supercharger and can you remove the snorkel/front diffuser without having whole supercharger removed?
Woo my good friend i need to do my c280 99 like that is not really running will thanks & god bless you and family ;)
Hello, on this w203 model, if i unplug the battery will the car setting remain the same or it will be reset to factory ? the setting such as lighting, seat and steering position.
Another question, how did you re mount the electronics box? Obviously car doesn’t turn on without it, so it has to be left plugged in.
I just built a bracket for it to mount onto in the same location 👌
awesome video! does the block off on the supercharger and new pulley add constant boost and more kw?
denrico100 thanks man. Smaller pulley does add power. I’m still waiting to dyno (map) the car. Ignore the block off part I did. Plain bad idea to put it short. 🤣🤪(messed up the MAF readings so it ran very rough)
Hi man! great video! I am planning on doing the same to my car (intake and smaller pulley).. I have one question.. when you remove the original airbox, you unplugged a sensor in the front of the box, and then relocated the ECU. With the new intake, what did you do with that sensor you unplugged previously? Thanks!
Thanks for the positive comment 🙏🏻
I just removed that sensor from the airbox and plugged it into the harness and tied it away from any harm with a cable tie👌
Honestly I don’t even know what it is🤣🤣goodluck with your build man!💪🏼
@@RicerBenz ok ok hahaha thanks!!! And with this solution you don't get any error lights / issues with the car?
@@estebansouki7203 I had no issues 😎
@@RicerBenz ok ok! Thanks a lot man!!! Btw, love the videos!!!! Keep up the good work 🔥
@@estebansouki7203 hey bro what’s your insta I wanna do the same!
Hello. Can you who know this engine give me your opinion? On my C180k, the Compressor air pressure tube that fits into the throttle valve jumped at 5500 rpm in "full power" because the clamp broke! :/ The tube came off the orange sealant rubber of the throttle valve body with a loud bang. Unfortunately it caused damage to some part. Engine fails at cold idle and cold throttle. When it warms up it improves, but it continues to fail when I press the accelerator lightly. There is no loss of power at "full power" acceleration. What's your opinion? What could be damaged when the tube came loose? Tks for help me
I dont know if you remember but where did you get this pulley from ?
Do i got to upgrade my super charger pulley for it to sound like that ?
Is there a Pcv valve attached to those breather hoses with the check valve at the bottom of the engine? Been trying to fix a P0172 code running rich, thanks in advance
Honestly not sure. It’s been so long. Under the air filter housing I remember there was some sort of valve that’s known to need replacement. I removed mine🤣but would not recommend it. Sorry I can’t be of any help. Good luck 😎
@@RicerBenz thanks a lot bro, this info alone helps!
Class video lad but how did you get the pulley off
Mark Twomey Thank you 😁 🙏 I took the supercharger to a local engineer to use a press. It’s no easy task but not impossible 😁
the plate you cut and put in on the bypass ,is that so it only pulls air through the supercherger?
It’s to dump the air so you hear a “blow off” sound from the boost. But the car runs bad because of inaccurate readings of the MAF
NOT recommended to do it
oh alright, thank you
You removed the cars 2 horns and called them air flo housing lol
Haha whoops🙈🤣my bad🤪
Lolololol hahaha it’s all good he’s got a lot on his mind bro lol let him be haha I’m learning something from this guy tho fr because I just got this car for a deal and it has problems so I’m learning about it I have two w208 amg manual clk’s setup for drift. !!!!
@@smokeysony8390 bro Do you know if it is normal for the supercharge to carry oil n the pipes that go to the interculer?
where is MAP sensor?? i want a upgrade my mercedes w203 but i cant see inthe video where is the map sensor position is after a upgrade. thank u bro nice vids
Thanks man!🙏🏻 MAP sensor is just behind the air filter 👌👌
Sure man, am in JHB, where can I buy supercharger pulley
hi, i have a w211 e200 with the M271 1.8 kompressor engine. if i do a smaller supercharger pulley, would i need a tune after that? also a shorter belt?
what other upgrades can i do for that engine? charge pipe? intercooler?
I would suggest a tune after you installed the smaller pulley yes. I did not use a shorter belt.
Cold air intake(not like mine🤣) bigger exhaust. I don’t think the intercooler makes much of a difference I did it more for the look of it. But I’m no expert.
I have the exact same car, I want to try something like that but is it worth it ?
@@RicerBenz intercooler makes a huge diff expecially in ur 10.5 compression ratio car and with smaller s/c pulley ;) Eaton m45 are very hot. Bigger intercooler expecially with colder spark plugs will give u more tune potential. If u want more then 135 kw u can go with new headers and exhaust, backpressure also creates many heat back to engine. I saw one guy did 160 kw his w203 m271 without detonation risk. 145+ kw needs also new fuel pressure regulator or injectors (cant remember exactly which one, maybe both)
Is that SUPERCHARGER oil?
Take mesh off on other cars at your own risk, it’s there to get a straight airflow for the maf , some car go bonkers on idle and u can’t drive it without reinstalling mesh
There are two maf screens actually. 1 plastic air strightener and and 2nd thin metallic mesh screen which you can only remove. Its final protection from debris and othet objects coming from outside, if your filter goes off or got cracked as example. But yeah, that first plastic couldnt be removed, it improve maf sensor readings and reduce air turbulence. Actually it gives more power.
Nice video, but what’s the whole point of this? New air filter, and longer serpentine belt required surely! ECU will need remapped. I had my SLK R171 200 Kompressor 2008, AMG sport model, remapped from 184 to 214 CV in Spain, cost 500 Euros, more than enough I think for this car, although I could have also gone like you, to a more drastic measure and added another 30-40 CV, making it about 255 CV plus the extra torque on both modifications. However, I did not think the extra strain on the Kompressor and engine was worth it, unless you want to race it? 🤔
Buenas, aumentaste esa potencia solo con electrónica?
What intake did you use ?
How come you took out the mesh from throttle body ? Thanks
Read somewhere it improves flow🤷🏻♂️😂😁
Where can i get the Pulley , i found one on Ebay by MCS but doesn't include a Belt , do i need a new belt ?
Mr. Vegeta I had one made . Not sure about buying one. I also didn’t change my belt and it seems to do okay.
@@RicerBenz ok ill buy it and cross my fingers , when are you going to change the Wheels ? Im currently waiting for 20mm spacers for the ESR wheels i just picked up , ESR SR01 machine lip Hyper silvers
Mr. Vegeta Hope you win the battle😎I kinda like the wheels. Also just planning on spacers soon😁maybe some paint 👌
@@RicerBenz yea Man its gonna b some work fitting them right , rolling fenders maybe have to put some coilovers to have a flush look , im hoping the Sport package suspension is enough.
Hi there, what size (in mm) SC Pulley did you buy, and where did you buy it from? I need one.
Luyanda Ndlela Hi! I went to a local engineer and asked him to pull it of and make it as small as possible 🤣I’m not sure about the size now. I think it’s 15% smaller or something like that.
Is it possible to remove the silencer without pulling out all the air intake manifold?
The Supercharger silencer you can remove by only removing the airbox. The other muffler in front of the crank pully you can remove without the need to remove anything.
With smaller pulley, how do you adjust to fit with the turpentine belt ?
My belt doesn’t seem to slip
Tensioner doing it’s seems to me😅😁😎
Sound good sense. Keep make video on your dreams progres 👍
@@CB-gp9dc thanks man🙏🏻✌🏻
Hello bro can you plz give the size of the pulley
Any. Modifications done to the piston rings?
Nope. Stock engine👌
Where did u purchase the smaller pulley for the super charget
Went to a local engineer with the sc removed from the engine and he removed it and made me a new pulley👌😁
Thank u
Did you dyno'ed you car after this mods? My C180K w204 got only +2 KW and +20 NM respectively on dyno after. Low end torque is really noticeable. Looks like it cant spray enough fuel at high RPM and torque curve cant continue higher from high RPM's. Do you think its MAF problem with maxed out voltage or computer doesnt let more air due calibration? I need to avoid ecu tune, because my local tuner ask 1000 euro for tune, lol... Maybe new performance sensors can help with higher voltage readings?
Hi man
Yes I did get the car on the dyno after this
I made a video on it too😁
Regarding your questions...I’m sorry but I have no idea honestly
I just went with a bigger engine now🤣🤣
@@RicerBenz how do you get these cars tuned?
When I got mine I called around as I planned on doing these mods. Could not find a shop that would or could
Have a buddy with HP tuners and again it's a no go. Any advice??
@@dabaholic618 I found a guy close to where I live who said he will try getting into the ecu and luckily he could😁I’m sure there should be more people willing to tune these👌
Yes sir, can you plz help me out with my problem, I had 2009model c200 kompresor and had troble code p0045, its says supercharger boost control solenoid circuit A open, where can I find boost control solenoid, tnx,hope you will answer my problem, tnx again
Google that p0044 code. Seems to me it could be a small sensor🤷🏻♂️
Where is it exactly I can find the boost control solenoid, I think we have same engine,M271 4cylinder kompresor
Does the supercharger need to be removed for pulley?
Some people take it off while in the car. But you need a very good pulley puller. Easier to take it off and pressed out😁
Hey bro I got a 03 kompressor just wonder what brand or what website did you get your upgraded pulley
Hi man! No website. Had to find an engineer that could make me one👌
@@RicerBenz dang he’s not based in the US or would he ship it out to me ? Bc I found a pulley that gives 17% reduction but idk if it fits
@@sebastianrangel3773 I had to remove my supercharger for him to measure and make one😅🙈sorry man
@@sebastianrangel3773 where did you find the 17% reduction pulley? If it’s specifically for the m271 eaton supercharger it should fit🤷🏻♂️😁
@@RicerBenz How much did it cost you for him to make the pulley? And yours is an 04 correct?
What does pulling the mesh out do? Can the car still idle with that off? I've heard it makes some sensors angry haha
I thought it would have better flow🤣not recommended (not worth it)
@@RicerBenz Got it, thanks for the insight haha. My new intake arrives tomorrow along with the SC pulley. I too, want a riced out C class 😎👍🏻
@@HighFidelityFox 😁😁😁
@@HighFidelityFox hi how is you tune? SC pulley give you more hp??
@@mygoalcrash8077 i’ve never done dyno so can’t say for certain it increased HP, but you can definitely hear and feel the SC kick in at a lower RPM than before
I want to do the SC baffle delete to increase airflow even more, but you have to take everything apart and i’m scared to break something lol
Do I need to do all this to change the pulley?
No. You can change the pulley alone.
I hate that m271 270 274 type of engine because of timing chain issues. I own a car with m111 :D This cars are like puzzles. Abosuletly True ! Keep it up !
The M271 are not so bad as many say not every engine has these Chain problems... just change the oil every 10000 km
@@DroelfzehnHD idk mines going strong at 210k
@@DroelfzehnHD I'm at 270k miles on original timing chain. Just did valve cover gasket 2 weeks ago and all was looking good.
Mine has been beyond reliable. Engine and trans are the most reliable parts.
Everything else has failed 😂
Not sure about the M271, i know the engine internals are not as beefy and rock solid as M111s but I dont see why the wont last. My m111 has 280k kms on it and I did some mods for more power and its handling it perfectly
Have had 2 m271 engines one that I put over 175k on another which has almost 250k and NEVER had any timing chain or any other engine problems. Maybe a thermostat stuck open once or twice but no engine is perfect but while not as loud and shade tree modder friendly it is a better engineered more dependable and efficient engine.
Can you send me the link on where you got the pulley please. I wanna do this to mine
Sorry man I had one made at the local engineering shop.😅
www.r-tmg.com/products/mercedes-al.html
Who to remove pulley supercharge please
how did you remove komp pulley?
I took it to someone with a press and they got it off🤙🏼
Boet, can I bring my car to you. I have c230 coupe. I need to add some horse power.
Bro, what new pulley size was? 62 or 65 mm?
I think its 62 mm. Next week im gonna upgrade the pulley and software un my c180k
BRO WHWRW DIDI YOU GET YOUR PULLEY IM LOOKING FOR ONW I CANT FIND
A local engineer made me one on a lathe😁
Where did you get the smaller pulley have same car want to do what you did
I had to remove the supercharger and take it to an engineering shop to make me one
@@RicerBenz oh wow lol ask em to make a second one I’ll pay for it !!
@@josiahhardy Do You live in South Africa?
@@RicerBenz I live in the USA, so greetings from USA, state of Idaho, city of Boise nice to meet ya!!
My friend Need your help!🥲 , Do you know if it is normal for the supercharger to carry oil in the pipes that go to the interculer?
Yep it’s normal👌they all have that according me
For some reason looks like my supercharger hesitates at stops after exiting freeway shakes and rattles. Anyone else got that problem?
Could be the bypass valve
What size air intake did you use?
76mm airfilter👌
Bro is there any easier way to just change the pulley itself, I just want this slug to have a bit of power man, don't want to waste too much time or money on it, if it goes bang so be it 😩
Some people have removed the pulley with a proper pulley puller while it’s still in the car. You can try that if you have one but the pulley was never really made to be removed. it’s on there GOOD😅🤣 we had to use a hydraulic press to get mine off…
Good luck 🤙🏼
Is a 4 cilinder 1.8 L kompressor?
Yes it is😁✌🏻
0-100 how many seconds?
@@darioledesma4489 around 9sec. Only tried it once🤣
Hi can you add a supercharger to a W202 C180?
My guess would be that it’ll be easier to go turbo👌
I just removed the supercharger silencer and put everything back together and turned it one reved it a little took it for a spin and i did not hear my supercharger at all the way I heard yours it's a 2003 Mercedes c230 compressor coupe same engine in everything I think and when I pass 80 mph my car acts sluggish and sounds like its misfiring someone please help me
Sounds like an air intake issue, the MAF sensor is probably sending weird signals to the computer, is there an error code?
@@HighFidelityFox I'm getting p0600
@@HighFidelityFox and p0238
@@HighFidelityFox and mis fire in cylinder 2 I'm thinking this is for my air leak I don't know about the rest
hello car faster? when you close bypass valve?
Doesn’t run like it should. Air fuel mixture gets interrupted 🙈I would advise not to do it😂mine is back to normal👌
@@RicerBenz i thin you nead turbo kit!!?
@@mygoalcrash8077 agreed!!! Or more engine😂Lookout for my next video😁
Mhmm good ol hot air intake
Whahaha you know it🤣👌🤪
where did u get the airfilter at?
Local south african online store. Many places will sell it😁👌
@@RicerBenz The one we get in norway dosent fit the airfilter housing, so im looking to get one that fits. And i se ur fits so im looking to get that one.
@@itszayzack-2872 do you guys have ebay over there? You can just measure the MAF sensor size and get a filter that size. I just stretched it over the mass airflow sensor. The plastic has a small lip👌
@@RicerBenz Yeah we have ebay here but its just hard to get things from ebay to norway. But thanks for the help anyway, u are prob the only youtuber that is tuning a m271 and doing cool upgrades to it on youtube
@@itszayzack-2872 haha thanks man but there has to be more. M271 is a great engine but it want more power so I’m putting a 3.2 straight 6 in now😁you can check out my latest videos 😁
wht pully is tht bc i want to put more power to myn
It's about a 15% smaller pulley I had made 😁
@@RicerBenz i have 1 to u can c it in my channel
Is removing the pulley hard? Can it be done with normal tools.
@@majeddali1664 I think you need a proper press or a pulley puller for the job👌😁
Is This the 1.8l engine?
Yes it is😁
@@RicerBenz nice I have the same car what year is it
@@halldormlg8312 mine is 04’ if I remember correctly 😅
How much did ur engineer charge you to make that pulley?
If I remember correctly about R700/$50...
@@RicerBenz maaan you should see if he can make more 👀 id pay for that lol
Which I take did you put
Intake? I just got a cheap one online.
“Air filter”
@@RicerBenz do you think you can put the link
@@RicerBenz from where though like Amazon or eBay
I cannot remember honestly 🙈
You can just measure the intake size (the MAF) and buy any one. I connected directly onto the MAF👌if I remember correctly it’s a 76mm but not 💯 sure
Thats an air straightener not "mesh".
Your not doing your fuel trims any favors that's for sure.
Makes the element much less accurate.
Thanks for the advice 😁
Hot Air intake
Makes no sense with sc and intercooler
Re-inventing the wheel. Looks like you lost 3 seconds not gained.
All this has been done before.
This engine is not worth modding. But the only thing that actually works is
larger pulley, Kleeman box for the ECU that changes the fuel ratios because above 4K rpm the engine will be starved for fuel, a higher pressure fuel pump, and larger injectors.
For the cost and time of all that just buy a used AMG. C32 or C63
Nice work man Check my vids out too I'm doing same type of stuff with my m111.
I bet you got zero horsepower gain and runs bad, plus I’m sure you have so many drivability codes you strapped yourself in your c230 and drove off a cliff. Kids don’t do this!! Lol
Wish it was a C230🤤🤣
@@RicerBenz Dink jy dit sal beter wees om net die 2 mufflers en pype te verander vir 'n beter klank? Met ander woorde verander die intercooler na n beter een, en sit silicon pype vir al die air pype sodat die air direk flow sonder obstructions? Ek dink daaraan nou om net dit te doen sodat die kar beter klink.
@@K1Vernon die verskil in klank gaan so klein wees met al daardie werk ek glo nie dit sal die moeite werd wees nie. Dit was nie vir my nie maar die intercooler se look op die kar het ek darm gelike🤪🤣
Hello. Can you who know this engine give me your opinion? On my C180k, the Compressor air pressure tube that fits into the throttle valve jumped at 5500 rpm in "full power" because the clamp broke! :/ The tube came off the orange sealant rubber of the throttle valve body with a loud bang. Unfortunately it caused damage to some part. Engine fails at cold idle and cold throttle. When it warms up it improves, but it continues to fail when I press the accelerator lightly. There is no loss of power at "full power" acceleration. What's your opinion? What could be damaged when the tube came loose? Tks for help me