I am pretty sure they do not even perceive that. People can obviously be conditioned to set out their brain function when confronted with adverse information.
The reason I prefer your videos to any other debunking videos, is that you don't just call the deniers idiots. You actually address their (mostly ridiculous) claims, and then provide a logical explanation.
Many flat earthers don’t really have any respect, and just ignore clear evidence or blabber on about something unrelated when they know their arguement is about to be debunked all the while insulting everyone who disagrees. To be fair it’s quite impressive for someone to not insult flat earthers.
They ARE denier idiots and some, sorry most, just shout down any rational argument against their position. They ARE morons except for the smart ones making money from this and they are just despicable. I suggest they don't believe in the tripe they promulgate.
@@thepapschmearmd I still love guys like Dave Weiss calling ‘showing how they are wrong’ gaslighting. They’ve heard a word know it has a negative connotation but have no clue how you are suppose to use it.
For any believer: The truth is, the Bible does not comment on the shape of Planet Earth. It does not say that the earth is flat, and it does not say that it is spherical. Let’s take a closer look at some of the commonly cited passages that supposedly depict a flat earth: Revelation 7:1 says, “I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth.” In writing this, the apostle John was using idiomatic language-the “four corners of the earth” refer to “every distant location.” We use the same idiom today; for example, when we speak of Olympic athletes coming from the four corners of the earth to compete in the games, we mean they are coming from all over the world. The book of Revelation is full of non-literal descriptions and symbolic language. To press Revelation 7:1 into a hyper-literal interpretation makes no sense. John simply says that, at one point during the tribulation, God will cause all wind to stop blowing. The “four corners” encompass the cardinal directions-north, south, east, and west. All wind will cease at God’s command. Psalm 75:3 quotes God saying, “When the earth and all its people quake, it is I who hold its pillars firm.” Other passages also refer to the earth’s “pillars,” such as 1 Samuel 2:8, but in no case should the language be taken literally. The book of Psalms and Hannah’s song in 1 Samuel 2 are poetry. The writers liken the founding of the earth to the constructing of a house, and their descriptions are comparative (i.e., metaphorical), not literal. The point is not that the earth is flat but that the earth belongs to God; it is His construction, and He guarantees its stability. God’s “pillars” will not move, and His “roof” will not cave in. Even when the moral order of the world seems to have crumbled and people are overcome with fear, God will not fully withdraw His sustaining power. What about the Bible’s references to the “ends of the earth” in Deuteronomy 13:7; Job 28:24; Psalm 48:10; Proverbs 30:4; and other passages? Does a reference to the “ends” of the earth teach that the earth has an edge and is therefore flat? We’ll take Deuteronomy 13:7 as representative of all the passages: here, Moses warns the people of “the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other” (ESV). A couple things can be said about the phrase the ends of the earth to show that it does not refer to a flat earth. First, that phrase, like the four corners of the earth, is idiomatic. We don’t expect people to take us literally when we speak of going “back to the drawing board”; neither should we force a literal interpretation on “the ends of the earth.” When biblical writers speak of the “ends of the earth” (28 times in the KJV), they are simply referring to “the farthest reaches of the inhabited world.” Second, the phrase the ends of the earth at times refers to people, not to land. For example, Psalm 67:7 says, “May God bless us still, so that all the ends of the earth will fear him.” In this verse, the ends of the earth references the people who inhabit remote and distant places (see also Psalm 98:3 and Isaiah 45:22). Obviously, in this context the phrase is metaphorical and cannot be used to depict the earth as having a physical edge. The same phrase, used elsewhere, should also be considered figurative. The Bible does not teach that the earth is flat. The references to the “earth” in the Bible are often not references to planetary earth but to a portion of dry land bound by water. For example, Genesis 1:10 says, “God called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas” (ESV). “Earth” is mentioned as distinct from “Seas” and cannot refer to Earth as a planet; the same Hebrew word for “Earth” is used in Deuteronomy 13:7 and the other passages listed above. While the Bible does not teach that the earth is flat, neither does the Bible explicitly teach that the earth is spherical. Some passages do allow for a spherical earth, such as Job 26:7 and Isaiah 40:22. In any event, the Bible is far from affirming a naïve or unscientific understanding of the earth and the solar system. There is simply no basis for the charge that the Bible teaches a flat earth. Passages that seem to present a flat earth can all be explained when correctly understood.
@Omar-777 You really think you figure it all out 😂, well then what about New Jerusalem. New Jerusalem will come down on a New Earth is that also a ball shape earth. Well I will tell you, this Earth is a flat and a Cube, the Next new earth also. In revelations are the exact measurements given of New Jerusalem which make it a Cube. WILL A CUBE OF THAT SIZE FIT ON A BALL EARTH, THE ANWER IS NO, SO THE EARTH OLD AND NEW MUST BE FLAT. And yes the four corners are four corners, a corner is a corner and that makes it a flat square and a cube. Do you really think Satan would tell us the truth, no way. Space is made in a Hollywood basement, I hope you know that song.
A healthy level of scepticism is a good thing. Problem being that flerfers and space deniers aren't sceptical, they're either wilfully ignorant or outright liars. . . or both.
Many are compulsive contrarians. They have the secret knowledge the rest of us are too ignorant to have. You get the same kind of thing in Civil War "war was acksually about" and climate change denialism.
I know one. He's neither, just steadfastly believes everything is a lie except what the half baked flat earth TH-cam videos show. IMO it stems from not being able to grasp basic concepts like gravity and two people standing on the north and south pole can both stand upright with everything being completely normal.
_“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.””_ -Isaac Asimov, *NEWSWEEK* Op-ed, 21 January 1980
Fun fact. While watching gravity from 2013 with Sandra Bullock, my mom actually caught a mistake. While on the ISS, Bullocks character, Ryan Stone doesn’t have her hair moving freely, or up like in real footage of female astronauts in space. Something i didn’t notice until she brought it up. Little mistakes like that would come up a lot if NASA is faking space missions, but we don’t. So i think on that regard, Its pretty safe to assume that NASA is actually doing what they say they are doing
It's one of the minor things that fuel these "it's all fake" claims: that things don't look the way we expect them to look... because our expectation can often be based on "fakes" (well, fiction).
@@Groffili we already have a flurry of Space movies, specifically the BTS in films (ex. 2001,Apollo 13, Gravity, Martian, Life) that basically show that it takes a LONG STRENUOUS amount of time to make things look convincing no matter how high tech it is, especially at the cadence that NASA does…ANY broadcast.
Tha fact alone that flatters think they’re just fooling around day in and day out to make these videos just to make them fake is moronic. What ‘on earth’ should they do that for???
And yet again, hunting down the original FULL scene, as opposed to only the cherry picked parts the deniers use, DESTROYS their claims. Who'd 'a think it?! Oh right, everyone thunk it.
@@DaveMcKeegan And the hilarious part is, they claim that they "don't blindly believe what they're told", and that they "do their own research". Yea, right. Suuuure you do...
I posted on Level Earth Observer's channel when he cherry-picked Chris Hadfield's "wires". He isn't bright enough to watch the nearly twenty minutes of the original video and see that Hadfield is "sitting" cross-legged for quite a bit. Chris must have abs of granite to be able to hold that position AND dangle from wires without flipping forwards. Then there's also the minor inconvenience of Tom playing with the Makita drill and Hadfield floating the Nikon about. But the best part is how obvious Hadfield's watch is floating around completely without gravity's influence. But hey, no one said they're logical.
i personally think that a portion of flatearthers do it to gain views on youtube or such, because there is no one flat earth model and they have to change their own model for each question so that it makes sence. im not saying that there arent people who truely believe in the flat earth theory, but i dont think that these youtubers truely believe in that. (or they are really that stupid and dont realise that their own model does not make sense in the slightest bit)
A lot do it for money, it's the same as the 5g Deniers, all the science proves them wrong, but they make big money selling "anti-5g" devices to idiots who are afraid and don't look up or understand how 5g works. So they buy a little plastic card that says "5G-Protection" on it, for £200 and think they are now protected. Same with ads on youtube, patreon subscribers for flat earthers, the documentaries netflix and people pay for etc. etc. The ones leading these conspiracies rarely believe in them it's their followers who believe whilst they string them along for power and money...where have I heard that before, oh right a cult/religion. You'll notice a lot of time the followers never do any science or tests themselves, they just repeat the phrases and terms they have been taught by their leaders. Even though a lot of these things are very easy to test on your own with basic equipment, easier to believe than to question.
Both of the flat earthers I know personally are unemployed freeloaders (apparently paying taxes is a racket of the jews or something). They have all the time in the world to think about the flatness
Because all they ever consider is what they need for the thing they are trying to justify at the current moment. They give no thought to the implications for another claim. Most conspiracy nuts are that way, like saying the moon footage is slow motion then also claiming seeing wires often talking about clips moments apart.
@@Isolder74 Another example is flerfs who claim we do not see over the horizon because we can only see objects closer than a few miles, forgetting that they also claim sun and moon are thousands of miles above us.
its not real and I can do this myself. Everything he just said is totally false from a video editing standpoint. You can see the guy passing the mic to the other hand avoiding the harness cables. Watch footage from a 0G plane and see how hair really reacts in 0G. When she took her hair down she had to shake it violently so it would fluff up. I cant believe people are so gullible but my IQ is 139 so I don't know what its like to be mentally challenged. lol
After watching your first video I was really surprised anyone saw this clip and thought, yep it's fake. Now having seen more of the original video it's clear they didn't think that because nobody could possibly arrive at that conclusion and that clip was selected in bad faith. Again, these science deniers have no honor or class
@@Grauenwolf Exactly, pretty much the way these kind of conspiracy theories go is that the purveyors assert that because there's some individual detail in a far larger whole which is "wrong", or appears to be "wrong", they have ostensibly proven something even if everything else fits the official theory and the said detail being "wrong" can be explained in more mundane ways (such as the claimant being mistaken or too inexperienced).
@@Kualinar Actually no: it's confirmation bias. You keep answers/explanations that already conforms to your viewpoint. Double standard is when you hold different people/groups to different standards for the same premise or actions.
@@Nuke-MarsX Ever heard of the expression "shifting goalposts"? It's when you can't deny someone's argument, so you just change the end goal of the argument.
I feel like a lot of people who make excuses for it being fake don't actually think them through, they just kick the can down the road. I honestly don't know what people get out of saying these things are fake
Some people are just contrarians. Anything to be the special person who figures out the "sheep" don't. Attention seeking is part of it. Others are just plain idiots. In either case, once you have argued yourself into a corner you just become defensive and are unable to give up on the idea because you'd look extremely foolish.
@@timolynch149 They love calling other people sheep while going about actually acting like one. They often see a claim by one of their kind then all just copy-paste it without even considering or looking at it.
It's called misinformation for a TH-cam channel 😢 do you think anyone in this day and age actually thinks the known spherical earth is not what we see true reality 🤔 nooo obviously.
Flerfs, and conspiratards in general, are dump people who want very badly to be the smart kids but don't have the will or the means to pull it off. The only method left to them is to "see the big coverup that nobody else does" which is perfect for them because anything they can't understand is potentially evidence in their favor. In the event they don't find anything that they can twist into agreeing with their conclusions, the mere lack of evidence is proof of the coverup, which in turn proves their theories.
I dont necessarily think it's fake but I find the fact that her hair doesn't flow around freely in the same manner that her necklace does... kind of odd
You can prove them wrong, but it doesn't mean they have the attention span to listen or remember your debunking. Low IQ people simply don't have much attention span. The moment it gets a little bit complicated is the moment their mind drifts off. That's why flerfs immediately follow up with a new question after getting an answer. And at some point they are gonna start from the beginning and ask the 1st question again.
It's always funny watching people trying to claim every single one of thsee clips are fake. On the one hand they go in to such detail that they've got jewelry on its own harness and a ridiculous amount of editing time in post with huge teams of people, then on the other hand they have to miss and leave in "obvious" signs of fakery. Standard flerf thing I guess, picking and choosing to try and have things both ways.
Globtards need to understand the government/military have weapons,technology heck even spacecrafts we don’t know about the general population after all it was the fbi who went into nikola Tesla office and took everything so they know shit we don’t and ppl have a hard time believing or accepting this cause they are owned by the government mentally and physically
@@DaveMcKeegan Nah, they just flew it at 17500mph at an altitude of around 250 miles above sea level, that way they can get those long, continuous shots.
At this point I’m 80% sure flat earthers and flat earth debunkers are working together so they can endlessly make these kind of videos. And we watch them all (on one side at least).
It'll never be enough to overcome the power of "nuh uh". But the point isn't to convince those who can't be convinced. It's to show just how weak their claims are to those who might otherwise fall for them. And you've done a fantastic job of that. Clear and thorough, as usual. Another excellent video from Rusty and his sidekick.
I've come to the conclusion that nobody actually believes the earth is flat. They just have a disorder that direct injects dopamine into their bloodstream when they lie.
Flerf: _Cherry picks video he thinks has a gotcha and demands explanation._ Glerf: _Addresses flerf's points, soundly debunking them._ Flerf: YoU cHeRy PicKeD tHat VideO! WaTcH tHe WhOLe tHinG!
Feels like flerfs don't have the attention span to pay attention to the debunking and remember it. They gonna ask 15 other questions and then ask this one again.
Having worked with green screen editing and animation, I can say that it is extremely difficult to get the shadows falling on a green screen to line up with a background image. Especially like the irregular parts that jut out in the background behind the astronauts. One would have to construct a 3D model that matches the background structure to enable the green screen shadows to conform on it. It certainly could not be done in real time for a live stream.
If earth is flying at 800,000 kmph, let's say India is flying upwards, then America would be flying downwards, because it's opposite, so after 12 hours India flies downwards and America flies upwards, right? Meantime other countries fly sideways. This is the event that you claim that happens everyday. So as you can see how silly and laughable is this! Right? So sad, billions of people believed on flying ball earth so deep in their every cell, since their childhood, now this sudden truth bothers them deeply, because every brain cell is filled with ball earth, it's the most heart breaking for globers.
When it comes to the moon landing footage, from a technial standpoint it was easier to send people to the moon than to film something that looked the way it did.
5:30 his arm and leg would also collide with the "wire" that was "grabbed". So either the wire somehow passed through his arm and leg, or the wire became disconnected during the roll and instantly reconnected (somehow) in time to be grabbed.
Side note on "it looks like the other fingers are grabbing something": Yes, the whole hand acts together. The main grabbing muscle, flexor digitorum profundus, connects to all the fingers. Which finger would catch a fold wasn't a great concern, and moving them separately is complicated.
I love how conspiracy theorists always share clips at the lowest quality possible in order to mask any details that might, ya know, totally blow up their theories. Watched two of your videos so far. Both were great. Definitely subscribed. Partly because of the content but mostly because of your dog 😉
@@vacuumandgaspressurecoexisting You can literally find a link to a 720p version of the original broadcast in this video’s description… the clip I always see get passed around certainly isn’t 720p. It’s always just fuzzy enough to cast doubt. Seems like a really targeted coincidence…. Also, I’m not just talking about this video. I’m talking about the dishonest way all of these “NASA LIES” videos get passed around. Like the famous “chromakey” video. They say it shows NASA using a green screen. The evidence? A video of an astronaut using a blue screen with a white grid on it (for measuring motion) can be seen on a screen in the background. That video was filmed for and disseminated to the public, yet people pass it around like it’s something that wasn’t meant to be seen… what a joke. Wasn’t meant to be seen? It’s on TH-cam right now…
Holy! You utterly destroyed any and all notions this video is faked and not in orbit around the earth. One of the best most thorough savage beat downs I’ve ever witnessed!!
If I may weigh in: all those special effects deniers are invoking require so many re-takes, and so much post-production work to make it even remotely believable. Those conferences were held live, with questions from the audience. There is NO image technology that allows any of that. Not even close.
They just claim that NASA has secret technology which makes such image manipulation possible. :D (And at the same time, they claim that NASA does _not_ have the technology for spacefligt. :D )
You are wrong there are even videos of it and you can add objects in real-time eveb interacting with them. Bet ya everything in my savings account. But you go ahead and keep thinking you know what you are talkin about buddy!
Speaking from personal perspective, I can say that the source of such skepticism comes largely from a lack of education. Nearly a decade ago I was big on conspiracy theories. As I got older I decided to pursue educational pursuit in maths, sciences, engineering, and technology. The greater my pool of knowledge becomes, the smaller that pocket of conspiratorial thinking becomes. Sadly, it's easier for these people to hand wave these things away in denial than it is for them to seek valid sources of trustworthy information.
@@stuartgray5877 Yeah, I didn't buy into all conspiracy theories. For example, I understood the Earth is round, gravity exists, universal constants etc.. However, I would be one to believe that 5G is a government scheme, I could be swayed to agree with moon landing deniers, and I thought the government would cover up UFOs and extraterrestrial contact. Also: I'd like to mention that the term conspiracy theorist is a bit of a misnomer. Theories are the best tested proof positives that can yield scientific models. It makes more sense to call them hypotheses conspirators. As you can always make a bad hypothesis that you don't bother to test.
Go watch any of the videos done by Austin Witsit because I bet my next paycheck he's a hell of a lot smarter than 90% of anyone commenting here. You could use some humility and judge others less, because not only are their opinions not harming anyone, but most of us aren't bothered by the beliefs of strangers who are stuck an not growing or evolving like we are supposrd to do. You're mostly followers so you wont get behind or support the truth until the mass majority of others do. Its too much work doing any research or investigating of your own isn't it? Just keep believing what masters say, obey and pay your taxes like good sheep.
Really the conspiracy theories to ignore are the ones that are wacky and can be proven false by modern science. For instance, Israeli colonizers and their claiming of Palestinian land. As they say over and over that historically Palestine once belonged to their ancestors. This can obviously be scientifically disproven. Just like Jews being present in Egypt. Yeah, there is nothing historically or scientifically accurate about that whatsoever. According to archaeological findings, they were never there, period. So yeah, there are countries still colonizing and committing war crimes based on non scientific, non historical lies spun by their religious texts thousands of years ago. Specifically the book of Joshua when the Israelites massacred the Canaanites. Which is literally how Israelis view themselves in this war against Palestine… Besides, the conspiracies that tend to be worth investigating and at least a bit of looking into, for sure tend to be the ones that no one has yet to disprove. You know, the ones that the media, the government, and most “skeptics” try to change the subject on nervously every time they’re brought up. Israel is 1 such example… Child trafficking and Satanic Ritual Abuse is another… Ah yes the conspiracies that just about every politician refuses to acknowledge, which are the conspiracies that the CIA tends to somehow always strangely be involved in and bury at the last moment right? Such as child trafficking and satanic ritual abuse. The Satanic Panic, a bunch of crazy bullshit right? Like a precursor to Pizzagate right? Well…not so fast their Sparky! As this is one of the bizarre out of this world conspiracies entirely rooted in truth. And at this point we’ve all heard about Epstein Island sure. As well as all of the bizarre pedophile rings that were discovered in the 1970s and and 1980s. No? Well for starters there was the Franklin Scandal Coverup in Omaha, Nebraska, in which a higher up politician named Laurence King was pimping out children to high up elites and politicians in Washington DC. Where he would fly the children out with him, take them to these fancy parties in DC, when after it would get late a second party would start. And they’d basically have an Eyes Wide Shut satanic blood orgy, but much more sadistic and fucked up. Involving adults abusing children. They were also filmed while doing this. For both blackmail purposes, as well as pornography distribution purposes. North Fox Island, (Yet another pedo island, surprise surprise -_-), off the coast of Lake Michigan near Detroit involved the same stuff except less politicians and more the wealthy elite CEOs of the old Detroit auto companies empire. Chicago and the Delta Project, Not to mention all of the bizarre connections between John Wayne Gacey, politics and politicians in Chicago connected to both organized crime and the Democratic Party, Dean Correl, Philip Paske, and John Norman’s The Delta Project, a highly sophisticated national child trafficking ring that allegedly produced snuff films and child porn from their kidnapped young male victims. And at last, our final group… The Finders, a literal Satanic Cult involved in kidnapping, sexually abusing, and trafficking young children all over the United States, Europe, Canada, Australia, Africa, and Asia (including I kid you not North Korea). Probably used as a way of blackmailing people by taking pictures of the Men and kids involved in these acts. This all started when 2 suspicious men in black suits were discovered transporting 6 children all between the ages of 2 and 11. The kids were described as “scruffy” and “hungry” and appeared as though they hadn’t bathed in days. After police were called about the children looking hungry and possibly mistreated under suspicious circumstances, the police questioned them and demanded to search the van. It was in the van police would find a soiled mattress, a fairly sophisticated computer system, cameras, and a collection of photo albums that featured pictures of naked children, as well as photos showing children wearing white robes and adults wearing black robes as they performed a ritualistic sacrifice on a goat. The men were promptly arrested and the children were taken into protective custody. All of the children medically examined and showed signs of malnourishment and sexual abuse. The 2 oldest children named Marry and Max were interviewed as the 2 men were interrogated. This next part I’m just going to quote from Wikipedia because…well it’s a lot… “It was discovered that the children were raised on a farm with little adult supervision, with there being twenty adults and one other child present. The younger children were observed to display behavior indicating they were not used to being in a house or using indoor plumbing, requesting to go outside to use the bathroom, or urinating in their pants (noted to lack underwear). "Max" had a poor concept of time. They explained that they were being “weaned” from their mothers and were rarely allowed inside the house, even sleeping outside. Neighbors observed that the children apparently lived in the farm’s watermelon field. Mary described the 2 men as their "teachers", teaching them to read and "play games". One game involved disrobing a man, wearing his clothes, and going through his pockets for money (she later revised her statement and asserted that only jackets were involved). The two reported seeing female members of the cult naked and believed this to be another game as well. When questioned about "bad touches" Mary denied sexual abuse but "became very fidgety and wanted to end the interview." At another Finders farm in Virginia, agents recorded cages on the premises, with witnesses asserting they were used to keep children. As of 2022, the full medical and psychological reports are not available for public viewing. According to U.S. District Court records in Washington, a confidential police source had previously told authorities that the Finders were "a cult" that conducted "brainwashing" techniques at a warehouse and a Glover Park duplex raided by law enforcement. This source told of being recruited by the Finders with promises of "financial reward and sexual gratification" and of being invited by one member to "explore" satanism with them, according to the documents. Police sources said some of the items seized showed pictures of children engaged in what appeared to be "cult rituals." Officials of the U.S. Customs Service said that the material seized included photos showing children involved in bloodletting ceremonies of animals and one photograph of a child in chains. It was noted by a detective during the investigation that documents were discovered with detailed instructions about methods to obtain children for unspecified purposes (including the impregnation of female members of the community, purchasing, trading, and kidnapping), but neither the documents nor anyone else with knowledge of them could later be found.” Now I hear you asking, how did a simple cult manage to do that… Well… The Finders had connections… Serious connections… You see, eventually the FBI had built up quite the case. They had photographic proof showing children engaged in literal Satanic rituals for Christ sakes. However, out of nowhere the entire case was squashed by… Yup…you guessed it… The CIA… To quote Wikipedia again… “CIA spokesman David Christian asserted that the charges were a misunderstanding stemming from a company by the name of Future Enterprises Inc. being used to train agents, with one member of the Finders working as a part-time accountant there.” Yeah, whatever the fuck that means… Just more garbled Government gibberish like the phrase “Magic Bullet Theory,” and “Israeli Defense Strategy.” My point is with real life conspiracies and massive organized criminal groups involved in some of the worst crimes imaginable that have been proven time and time again to be not only connected to but protected by the very people that are supposed to be in charge of our countries, setting a positive example for their people as they run our country. And yet, time and time again this is proven to be false. As it seems as though anyone that attempts to change things for the better is quickly done away with. My point is this… Flat Earth is nothing but a psyop to distract people from the real conspiracy… The one that everyone deep down to some degree knows is true… Whether they believe it only happens in places like Mexico, Eastern Europe, and the Philippines and it’s only underground criminal cartels that are involved… Or they open their eyes and realize it’s so much bigger then they could possibly ever imagine… Because the more people understand the scope and the type of people involved in that type of traffic. When they realize the only people that could afford to purchase a trafficked child is someone incredibly wealthy. These aren’t sickos that only lurk around basements. These are well respected politicians, CEOs, royal family members, oil barons, bankers, land owners. This is how it’s an industry… It’s always been supported by the super rich elites because they’re the only one with the money, power, and influence to make a crime as heinous as that, even with tons of obvious incriminating evidence just completely vanish in thin air…
Its okay, I did the maths. I seriously doubt there are more than a million flerfs on the planet, most of those in the USA's bible belt of course. Not a single one in the southern hemisphere. Not one with a half-decent education. With 8 billion humans on the planet flerfs make up only 0.0125% so we're totally fine; "common" sense is good to go, there's just a stupidly small percentage of uncommon sense out there and we can safely ignore it.
I don't think the earth is flat but I do know for a fact all nations are run by the free mason cult meaning that they are lying to us. Welcome to the world run by the pyramids eye
I personally believe that if a flat earther got invited to go into space and to the Station to see for them selves that the earth is a globe, they would come back and still claim it was fake.
William Shatner went to the supposed edge of space and he said all he saw was the deepest darkness he's ever seen and nothing but death above us and and that earth shall always be our only home and none of you want to hear that.
I've been a hair stylist over 20 years and you absolutely can make hair stand up like that very easily & be able to put your fingers through it you dont have to put so much hairspray that its crunchy at all you use a matt finish past & you you use the hair dryer about 1ft or so and blow the finishing hairspray at same time it will do that effect no problem no need to be "drowned in hairspray" the straight strands on the sides are definitely not free flowing &the way she put her fingers multiple times in it trying to separate it w/ minimal separation absolutely shows there's product in it 100% SIR YOUR DEBUNK HAS BEEN DEBUNKED!
If you were a hair stylist, you'd know that hair has a natural rigidity. Why do you hoaxers feel the need to lie about everything? (Well, silly question, it is of course because you don't have a single argument in your favor.)
Do you have a demonstration to show it can replicate it? Without such you might as well claim you can pee diamonds And regardless the hair wasn't the whole debunk - there is still the issues of the floating necklace & microphone, the prolonged floating of 4 people in close proximity and the drastically changing lighting
@@DaveMcKeegan How is it possible that the astronaut reaches into the air and suddenly holds a stuffed toy in her hand? Can the good woman do magic or is that grennscrene?
@@DaveMcKeegan Not sure how much actual education you have in cosmetology but as a well educated cosmetologist its very easy to see how the hair is done to create that look pissing diamonds is a idiotic reference you dont have to be an Urologist to know thats impossible Not having any education in cosmetology and claiming that a stylist couldn't creat hair to look & act like that is in no manner similar aspects
@@bigdeal6336 I don't really have any, which is why I asked if we could see a demonstration Just claiming you're knowledgeable in the subject and that it's easily possible doesn't mean it's true which is why I'd be interested in seeing it actually done
yeah, like a real map or pictures/images showing a wide flat plain spreading off into the distance showing the lights at night of other cities far away .....
@@bunnykillerthese kind of things have been shown many times, but you will never hear of it on these channels, I have seen footage if mountain ranges from over 200 miles away which not even the most extreme/convenient amount of refraction would allow to see that far
@@Ellegedly Incorrect. Flat earthers have never been able to put forth an actual functioning map or any of the other things bunny mentioned. All observations line up with a globe expectation. If you think otherwise then by all means provide the picture along with all the necessary data to put it to the test. If you are going to try pic de Finestrelles to pic Gaspard in the alps well that fits the globe just fine as the photographer himself said he tried many different times and got the perfect moment relying upon refraction in order to see it. Furthermore the taller mountain being observed is below the level of the photographer which confirms the curvature of the earth as on a flat earth the other mountain would still be above the level of the photographer.
Yes, we all are! I used to believe in an almighty and invisible god that loves me until I was 10 and started wondering if some entity like that actually exists. When I was 19 I believed that there was strong evidence that aliens had visited Earth in the past. Who knows which of the beliefs that I hold today are equally nonsensical? I am 64 now and somewhere along the way I got degrees in chemistry and in physics and I have often been "accused" of having a scientific mindset. (I take that as a compliment even when I know the person stating it didn't mean it that way! 😜) It's really hard to know which of one's beliefs are utter nonsense and which aren't! Hopefully I have learned to be way more skeptical as I grew older but that doesn't completely protect me from holding nonsensical beliefs and that's true for all humans! At least I know that I can still give up strongly held beliefs even after multiple decades because I did just that about half a year ago. Still, I have no idea what nonsense remains in my little grey cells!
@@a_coloradan8689 I am neither begging for attention nor do I care how many likes I get! And yes, religion is the greatest example for people believing in unsubstantiated nonsense and therefore pertinent in this discussion!
"They faked it by (insert insanely complicated set of explanations that require a stupid amount of effort just to perpetrate a hoax that has no plausible reason to bother perpetrating)."
Really what about the BILLIONS NASA spends every year? It's more than the annual profits of the music, movie/tv, & gaming industries COMBINED...multiple times more. That's nothing?
Your patience in explaining this stuff to dumbos who will NEVER accept they are wrong is both astonishing to me and makes me feel sad that so much excellent effort was wasted 😢
@@joeschmo3844 They probably would think that someone put the ISS inside a vacuum chamber just to fool them. And after the flerf died, others would think that person was killed to protect the secret.
Thank you so much for your videos. I have been a flat earther for nearly 10 years, and your videos have helped me to break free of the paranoia and anger that accompany conspiratorial thinking. Again, thank you.
It would actually be really interesting to see someone try to recreate this clip on earth using wires and green screen, just to see how different it would end up looking. Space scenes in films and tv can be somewhat convincing, but there's always something that gives away that it's fake.
That reminds me of the moon hoax nuts who think that Kubrick faked the moon landings. He took a couple of years to photograph 2001: A Space Odyssey. In which has a few scenes on the moon. All of which totally ignore 1/6th gravity. They always just walk normally, as if on Earth. Unlike Apollo, where the leave the surface with both feet on almost every fast step.
10:32 Addressing the floating necklace with "green screen" is comically daft because the necklace isn't in front of the background. Its in front of her neck and clothes. Do these people think they used a green neck? If the necklace was a CG construction not only would it need to be painstakingly blended with her body frame by frame for the entire length of the 20 minute shot but so would its shadows. Any video effects artist asked to do this would tell you to piss off because it would be a monumental (and virtually impossible) task to do convincingly.
For some reason I did the math. If the video is shot at 24 frames per second, it means there are 1440 frames in 1 minute and that would 28800 frames for 20 minutes. Let us say it takes 1 minute to edit 1 frame (Nase gfx editors are wizards), it would take 480 hours to edit it. That's 20 days of non-stop editing (24u / day). And that's just for the necklace.
I watch your "flat earth" video with the same humor of knowing I should not drive by a road way accident, and slow down to view the carnage. You do a great job of countering all of the conspiracy theories of "...it was on a sound stage, with green screen...". Well done Dave.
Dave, nobody never mentions the obvious effect of gravity on faces, or lack thereof in ISS shots. All faces in zero G look puffed up because the gravity is not pulling it down or any other direction and their faces are unchanged whichever way they are positioned. Is this a bit too much of a mental arithmetics for the flerfs?
@@brianparr988 Yes. If you take photos of your face whilst on the ground, the right way up, upside down and on each side and then flip them all right side up, you can appreciate just how much gravity affects or faces. That doesn’t happen in zero g and the face looks equally distorted which ever way they are pointing and that is the best evidence for absence of gravity in those shots. Zero G plane mimics that to an extent but its too short and inconsistent and very expensive I must add. Its awesome that Dave included shots of Apollo 13 shooting scenes in Zero G plane - one wonders why would they do that if they can just fake it, as they claim everything in space is faked. Why paying so much money if they can just use studio and strings 🤔
@@kruger78 Strong point Even Hollywood need real, actuall zero G (or near as) for the movie to be as realistic as possible. Be interesting to hear a flerf's take on this point. A very long pause, occasional distant bell, and some kind of tumbleweed scenario comes to mind.
It’s totally obvious and clear that the microphone cord is connected to a harness to give the appearance it’s in outer space, and each individual one of her hairs is connected to a harness to give the appearance they’re in outer space, in fact this comment currently is connected to a harness to give the appearance it’s in outer space 😳
Globtards need to understand the government/military have weapons,technology heck even spacecrafts we don’t know about the general population after all it was the fbi who went into nikola Tesla office and took everything so they know shit we don’t and ppl have a hard time believing or accepting this cause they are owned by the government mentally and physically
It’s funny to me that space deniers don’t believe that it’s possible to be in space, but acknowledge zero g’s in a plane is possible. The ironic part about being in orbit around the earth, is that that’s exactly what the plane trick is. The only difference is that the zero g’s in a plane has a time limit. All an orbit is, is an object constantly falling towards the earth, but because it’s traveling sideways at such a high speed, it’s always missing the earth. So of course you experience zero g’s in orbit. It’s the plane trick on a more permanent scale. You’re always falling so you always experience this weightlessness.
@Johannes Ruscheinski Ignorant, yes, foolish too, but stupid in the science denying flatardian sense is something of a special kind. A degree is something no flatards will ever have. 😉
@@Zubareffstream111 Well, just look at the millions that believe that there is no climate change caused by humans even though there is near universal consensus in the scientific community or the all the nuts that believe in various conspiracies relating to vaccinations or the millions that believe that Trump's re-election was stolen etc., etc. Also, don't get me started on religious beliefs! We humans love to believe things that make us feel good, whether it's that we're in on something that others aren't or that we're special etc.
They can hardly accuse anyone of cherry-picking, considering that is their modus operandi. They trawl through many hours of video, trying to find a few seconds they can claim are faked, while ignoring all that they cannot fault.
@@TheMvoelker1 Yes, like a religion (FE TH-cam are their holy scriptures), but no to the cult. There's no leader, just some FE folks are more prominent than others.
It's actually genuinely incredible that the people that claim it's green screens, or wires, or what-have-you clearly have no idea how any of those things work and seem to be ignorant to even how things behave here on earth in regards to gravity, drag and even just being in water.
Yep, that is the funniest part of flerfers and moon hoaxers coming up with comparisons and technical details: they just reveal that they have no clue about those either.
@@arctic_haze Would that be Hans Hass, who with his wife Lotte pioneered under water film making and documentaries in the 1950s? Or would that be Hans Wormhat, the all round nutter who believes that just about every animal on the planet is fake?
I love how you stay respectful at all times while debunking this. This is exactly the style of debunking we need, so people who are in doubt stay with you and don't be pushed away by feeling ridiculed. Thank you so much
I agree with you. This is the style of debunking we need but at the same time things don't always need to be debunked. If it's not hurting anybody then sometimes you just have to let people believe what they wanna believe. Left brain logic doesn't need to be brought into every situation in life
Thank you my friend its called live and let live. Wolves are not bothered by the opinions of sheep. Which is why I don't try to convert anyone, I don't need others confirmation to back up my beliefs. I form them based on my own experiences and not the opinions of strangers.
Unfortunately the flerfs that watch this video will just "nuh uh" it all away. They cannot accept reality so they must create a vivid fantasy of a flat earth.
Great review. And mentioning that it is just a cut of a much longer, continuous video is a killer. That microphone cord, during rolls and putting over Doug's head is pretty tough to explain as well. It's easy for someone to say 'green screen', but only by those that haven't actually done it. I've learned so much by watching your channel, and you always have a calm, informative approach. Keep it up.
The idea that footage was taken in a Zero G plane would in fact be an admission that Gravity exists, debunking the notion of a flat earth with a paradoxical argument!!
One of the greatest pieces of evidence is you can go out and see the ISS. Ive seen it fly over a dozen times. It really puts onto perspective how awesome humanity really is. We can do this shit, how awesome! I don't get why people try to disprove space travel. Do people not like the idea that we can do great things, that we can challenge nature and do things that are far beyond the wildest dreams of our ancestors?
The idea! You said it yourself...its nothing more than an idea...a fantastical lie. They programmesd you with science fiction (star wars etc). You have an emotional connection to the lie that is outer space...but what it comes down to is that you feel like you don't have the strength inside you to accept that you're living a lie
And with regards to you seeing the I.S.S...you have seen something travel across the sky that you've been told is a spaceship....one that is around 100 miles above you and is not much different in size to a jumbo jet.....could u see a jumbo jet if it were at the same height as the supposed I.S.S? The answer is no....ALSO there are many videos showing the supposed I.S.S fading in and out in the sky...as if it it is nothing more than some kind of holographic projection
Holographic Projections exist and can be run quite easy with current technology. Believing that the ISS exists by just trusting your eyes is no different that it doesn't exist by just listening to "flat earth conspiracists". The issue here is that you cannot prove it for yourself here on earth. aka take a flight and actually venture into the ISS
I hate it when they go off on _tangents_ about it being impossible to measure angles from curved adjacents. It makes it obvious that when their math classes started discussing math using letters instead of numbers their brains shutdown.
I’d love to imagine that it is “once and for all”,but I haven’t got high hopes. Let them drown in their misunderstandings and let’s move on. By the way,this video is exceptionally well done 👍
To be fair, I do appreciate these people arguing. I've learned so much about space, zero-gravity, photography, Globe theory from watching these videos. Always pretty informative and never truly disrespectful. On the other hand.... I've never watched flat-earther content. Who knows, they're views might also be informative, and one always needs to see a story rom both sides, right? Guess I'm cursed to remain uninformed for the rest of my life
@@DarkVoid5028 as someone who has seen flerf content you aren't missing much. Half of them think that screaming is good argumentation and not a single one even knows what the modern theory of our solar system even claims.
@@DarkVoid5028 That's because there is NO substance to ANY of their fanciful claims. Their only game is "prove the globe", and they NEVER provide evidence one for their fantasy.
The thing is, not matter how much proof you provide, how many times you debunk their ridiculous claims, even if you were to actually take them to space personally, they’ll still claim “fake”. Most of these people have been making their claims for so long, they’re so deeply invested in their bs, that admitting they were wrong is too painful and embarrassing for them…
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 because in this day and age, the proof is so ridiculously overwhelmingly abundant that the Earth is a sphere, and anybody with more than two brain cells to rub together would know that. Just take one example of the trillions and trillions of dollars that have been spent on space exploration and continue to be spent by countries all around the world and the number of rocket launches there have been since they started in the 50s. Hundreds of thousands of people spending their entire lifetime devoted to space exploration or any of the supporting infrastructure necessary, etc, etc, etc... there is absolutely zero reason why all that time, effort, money and resources would be poured into keeping a hoax alive; and it only continues to increase as time goes on. Not to mention the fact that there would be absolutely no reason to keep such a hoax if in fact it were one. And one more thing... not one single solitary whistleblower from among all of the hundreds of thousands of people that would have to be in on the hoax in order to keep it a secret. And that's just the tiniest tip of the iceberg!!
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002Because they make willfully ignorant claims about the state of the universe we live in, they push false narratives, and they deny centuries worth of scientific evidence and research. That's why
Ask any hairdresser. Lots of hair spray (or gel) can make your hair stick up, but rigidly, like punk mohawks. Not *flow* upwards like that. There's at least one video showing a lady astronaut washing her hair in space, wet hair sticking up. Why that video is never mentioned by flatearthers? 😏
Well LEO has but mostly to complain that it’s fake because the water would damage systems so it can’t be in space ‘cause pantomime. He even implies that to be real NASA would insist they shave their heads and never bathe/wash their hair. Not that he ever says anything of substance as his main argument is space is fake so fake because I say so(while saying big words he clearly doesn’t understand).
Exactly, hair that's been sprayed/gelled doesn't stand straight up after removing a hair tie. No matter how much you shake your head, it will not stand straight up. They can't even do a simple experiment before making such a S+uPlD claim.
The hair is the most interesting thing to me in these video. Not because I think it's proof that it's fake. But because I don't understand why on ISS the hair stays up no matter what but on the 0G plane the hair floats like it's underwater. The hair clearly behaves differently on the ISS and those 0G planes for some reason.
Imagine being 18 and finding out your dad is a flat earther. My daughter was about to marry a guy, so we had his parents over for dinner. Future father in law starts going on about how the moon landings are fake. Run away, run away!
@@johnritchie3889 At least with the moon landing conspiracy there's a vaguely plausible reason for faking it even if the evidence isn't conclusive - believing that an unknown cabal of elitists (aka "they") are hiding the shape of the planet for no apparent reason with literally no supporting evidence is another thing altogether. If my daughter's future father in law believed the moon landings were fake I could let that slide ... but if he was a flat earther, yeah I'd have issues.
Imagine raising a child only for them to "grow up" into a spiteful, self-righteous, and judgemental, crowd follower who only appeals to authority and believes everything they hear without actually investigating it themselves. Why are you so bothered by opinions of complete strangers? Even have to hurl insults and talk down on them simply because they have different opinions on something that doesn't harm or affect you. It's really ignorant and only serves to slow your growth. Rise above it you are better than that. Be an adult.
I keep posting the same comment on flerf video's. It always gets deleted in 1 minute. Roscosmos/CCP basicly debunks that the moonlanding has been faked, so they just ignore it. The Russians were also the first in space, the first manned flight, first (unmanned) orbit around the moon, first in orbit around mars, first landed on Venus (project Venera). So they did alot of things before Nasa but they would lie about a faked moonlanding?
I often ask them about the other space agencies. Mostly that question is simply ignored, but some of them really have claimed that _all_ space agencies worldwide are _all_ part of the exact same conspiracy. Never mind stuff like the cold war. :D
@@GreatNewsVideo any proove for the cgi? I mean actual proove? Not just "nah ah" and "wake up silly" But analysing ORIGINAL footage with a cgi program or find the code that was used for it... Oh and gel in a necklace? 🤣
@@jasmijnariel if you dont have enough common sense and awareness of reality to realize fakery when you see it then no proof will suffice...otherwise YES there are loads of videos that show impossible things happening.
NASA: *experiences one slight glitch in a video feed spanning 254 miles in to space aboard a space station moving at nearly 18,000mph... 36 year old man with a net worth of $17,000, driving a 2000 Cavalier, living in a studio apartment in a dump: "Hah! Clearly they are faking it!"
Having more money than someone doesn't mean you are authentic and correct. I would trust the low wage networth $17,000 ORDINARY NORMAL PERSON over the corrupt government funded NASA Freemason a44holes anyday. I owned a Chevy Cavalier, beautiful car, get off your high horse.
You're scared of reality...you need to be told a a fairytale so that you can sleep..you said it yourself. I bet you haven't even watched any decent F.E videos I.E 200 proofs
So I am doing something related to conspiracy theories as a projects. I learnt that one of the reasons a conspiracy theorist stays like that is because of social pressure where they have put so much into making themselves and other happy inbthat circle that they dont want to be exiled from the group.
It would rather be more the opposite. People who are afraid of social pressure do not want to questions themselves or their perceptions because if the majority (the Mass) thinks like that, it is necessarily true while it's not necessarily the case. PS : I'm not a flat-earther. It's not because many are wrong that they are right. Coluche
I don't understand the need to cherry pick a few frames and fill the blanks with complete nonsense when the full uncut 20 minute video is available to anyone. 🤷♀
The government does this to hide God (or something like that). So an all knowing being that created everything, can't even create a wall for itself to hide behind it? Not really a good god then is he/she/it then.
No. It does not cost as much to fake it or take as much technology smh. So do you think making the movie Interstellar was more complicated than going to the moon? lmao
If I am ever graced with the opportunity to visit and inhabit the ISS, I would like to see if I could take with me the LEGO Ideas ISS set to assemble on a live stream. Then I could ask Flerfers how would that footage be fake when there are 864 LEGO pieces floating about in whatever trajectory they were moving upon opening the bags that contained them. Of course the real entertainment value would be in seeing me chase after these pieces in a Zero G environment.
Send a message to Elon Musk. Sounds like a pretty cool idea. Never hurts to ask. I'd personally donate to fund even the most staunch FE to send up in space and someone film his face as he's seeing our beautiful planet.
I'd donate to send you up with your idea even. I'm all for showing proof and I know millions would also support. This has to stop its screwing up the future for our Grandkids.
@@TheUnderCoverMother2020 That would be quite the donation. The funny thing is, LEGO has once used a high atmosphere balloon and broadcasted the entire journey of a bunch of Classic Space Minifigs being sent to near space before eventually landing to the Earth. TH-cam doesn't like links, but I think it's somewhere on LEGO's official TH-cam channel. Though FE's will likely just claim its CGI.
Necklace. NECKLACE! A FREAKING NECKLACE just floating around, but YEEEEEAH harness and hair blah-blah-blah. Are people just selectively blind or something?
I think a big problem is that people on both sides do not want to see evidence that validates the other side. They want to be able to debunk whatever proofs the other sIde presents. This causes a lot of vindictive hateful back and forth, with no one getting anything from it except frustration and hate for the other guy. I only want the truth. I want to have the viewpoint that is supported by the truth. I have tried to be remain civil with people but have found unless I agree with their exact position they only have insults and vitriol to offer me.
_I think a big problem is that people on both sides do not want to see evidence that validates the other side._ That is incorrect. People who accept that the Moon landings are real _have_ seen the evidence that allegedly validates the other side, picked it apart, and realize it for what it was. _They want to be able to debunk whatever proofs the other side presents._ Doesn't this sentence directly contradict your previous sentence, Jessie?
@@Jan_Strzelecki Spoken truly as a person who is doing exactly what I said. That is how you see it and I might even agree with your position, but that is not how someone who disagrees with you sees it. If someone had a really credible piece of evidence to present to you to show you the moon landings were faked, you most certainly would NOT be excited to see it and approach it with a positive attitude. You would go in with a completely dismissive attitude about it. I've seen this in all different types of debates throughout my 50 years of life. It is a very rare thing indeed for someone to look at an opposing argument with anything but disapproval even before hearing it. Of course you'll say this isn't the case, lol. You and every other swinging dick are neutral, have a positive attitude and are open minded when it comes to opposing views you disdain! Yea, fucking right. 🙄
@@Jan_Strzelecki you are exactly the kind of asshole that I'm talking about. Of course you see it that way because you assume you're right about everything. More than anything else you should work on not being such a loathsome prick.
@@jessielakes8118 I'm sorry, but I still don't understand. Your second sentence says that people "on both sides" want to be able to debunk evidence presented by other side, but your first sentence says that they don't want to see it. Those cannot both be true at the same time.
A noble attempt, Dave, but we both know it's not going to convince hoax believers. Still, it's nice to have it, to show _other_ people how hoax believers are cherry picking their evidence and ignore everything that contradicts it 👍
So, when she flips upside down, 1st time, her necklace falls DOWN quickly... then, where her hair is up every where else, it keeps that odd "upness" while she's also upside down... it doesn't shift at all...
Holyyy fuck. You seriously watched allll of this video, where he explains in perfect detail every little possible thing that makes it IMPOSSIBLE that this video is fake, and you still ask a question like that? Oh my GOD you are dense.
After Sandra takes out the hairtie she runs her fingers through her hair with ease. The amount of hairspray needed to keep the hair in that position on earth would not let you run your fingers through your hair like that. Ignorance, pure ignorance.
@@germanhernandezm.7435 and? We know what he said but he didnt say they were FAKE did he? If I photoshopped a picture of YOU does that mean YOU are fake? Use your damn brain!
@@ruukibane301 omg the typical, you SAYING its fake is neither an argument nor does your word have any meaning. I can care less what you say, proof it or stfu!
That dog is such a brilliant ventriloquist. You can almost believe it's "Dave" speaking.
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Once again proving that Flat Earthers only pick those parts where they think they have an explanation for it, everything else gets thrown into the bin
They count on the stupidity and/or apathy of the average flat earther to not check.
I am pretty sure they do not even perceive that. People can obviously be conditioned to set out their brain function when confronted with adverse information.
That’s why cherry-picking is a fallacy, and one of the laws of flerfs.
Soooo, basically their brains...
These are the clips that are circulated. Flat earthers a not known for researching sources.
The reason I prefer your videos to any other debunking videos, is that you don't just call the deniers idiots. You actually address their (mostly ridiculous) claims, and then provide a logical explanation.
Many flat earthers don’t really have any respect, and just ignore clear evidence or blabber on about something unrelated when they know their arguement is about to be debunked all the while insulting everyone who disagrees.
To be fair it’s quite impressive for someone to not insult flat earthers.
They ARE denier idiots and some, sorry most, just shout down any rational argument against their position. They ARE morons except for the smart ones making money from this and they are just despicable. I suggest they don't believe in the tripe they promulgate.
I mean Dave Farina calls them idiots but literally has hour long videos going incredibly in depth into why they are wrong.
@@thepapschmearmd I still love guys like Dave Weiss calling ‘showing how they are wrong’ gaslighting. They’ve heard a word know it has a negative connotation but have no clue how you are suppose to use it.
to be fair, a lot of flat earthers are constantly attacking and insulting others, so it's satisfying to see them also get insulted :p
For any believer: The truth is, the Bible does not comment on the shape of Planet Earth. It does not say that the earth is flat, and it does not say that it is spherical. Let’s take a closer look at some of the commonly cited passages that supposedly depict a flat earth:
Revelation 7:1 says, “I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth.” In writing this, the apostle John was using idiomatic language-the “four corners of the earth” refer to “every distant location.” We use the same idiom today; for example, when we speak of Olympic athletes coming from the four corners of the earth to compete in the games, we mean they are coming from all over the world.
The book of Revelation is full of non-literal descriptions and symbolic language. To press Revelation 7:1 into a hyper-literal interpretation makes no sense. John simply says that, at one point during the tribulation, God will cause all wind to stop blowing. The “four corners” encompass the cardinal directions-north, south, east, and west. All wind will cease at God’s command.
Psalm 75:3 quotes God saying, “When the earth and all its people quake, it is I who hold its pillars firm.” Other passages also refer to the earth’s “pillars,” such as 1 Samuel 2:8, but in no case should the language be taken literally. The book of Psalms and Hannah’s song in 1 Samuel 2 are poetry. The writers liken the founding of the earth to the constructing of a house, and their descriptions are comparative (i.e., metaphorical), not literal. The point is not that the earth is flat but that the earth belongs to God; it is His construction, and He guarantees its stability. God’s “pillars” will not move, and His “roof” will not cave in. Even when the moral order of the world seems to have crumbled and people are overcome with fear, God will not fully withdraw His sustaining power.
What about the Bible’s references to the “ends of the earth” in Deuteronomy 13:7; Job 28:24; Psalm 48:10; Proverbs 30:4; and other passages? Does a reference to the “ends” of the earth teach that the earth has an edge and is therefore flat? We’ll take Deuteronomy 13:7 as representative of all the passages: here, Moses warns the people of “the gods of the peoples who are around you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other” (ESV).
A couple things can be said about the phrase the ends of the earth to show that it does not refer to a flat earth. First, that phrase, like the four corners of the earth, is idiomatic. We don’t expect people to take us literally when we speak of going “back to the drawing board”; neither should we force a literal interpretation on “the ends of the earth.” When biblical writers speak of the “ends of the earth” (28 times in the KJV), they are simply referring to “the farthest reaches of the inhabited world.”
Second, the phrase the ends of the earth at times refers to people, not to land. For example, Psalm 67:7 says, “May God bless us still, so that all the ends of the earth will fear him.” In this verse, the ends of the earth references the people who inhabit remote and distant places (see also Psalm 98:3 and Isaiah 45:22). Obviously, in this context the phrase is metaphorical and cannot be used to depict the earth as having a physical edge. The same phrase, used elsewhere, should also be considered figurative.
The Bible does not teach that the earth is flat. The references to the “earth” in the Bible are often not references to planetary earth but to a portion of dry land bound by water. For example, Genesis 1:10 says, “God called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas” (ESV). “Earth” is mentioned as distinct from “Seas” and cannot refer to Earth as a planet; the same Hebrew word for “Earth” is used in Deuteronomy 13:7 and the other passages listed above.
While the Bible does not teach that the earth is flat, neither does the Bible explicitly teach that the earth is spherical. Some passages do allow for a spherical earth, such as Job 26:7 and Isaiah 40:22. In any event, the Bible is far from affirming a naïve or unscientific understanding of the earth and the solar system. There is simply no basis for the charge that the Bible teaches a flat earth. Passages that seem to present a flat earth can all be explained when correctly understood.
@Omar-777 You really think you figure it all out 😂, well then what about New Jerusalem. New Jerusalem will come down on a New Earth is that also a ball shape earth. Well I will tell you, this Earth is a flat and a Cube, the Next new earth also. In revelations are the exact measurements given of New Jerusalem which make it a Cube. WILL A CUBE OF THAT SIZE FIT ON A BALL EARTH, THE ANWER IS NO, SO THE EARTH OLD AND NEW MUST BE FLAT. And yes the four corners are four corners, a corner is a corner and that makes it a flat square and a cube. Do you really think Satan would tell us the truth, no way. Space is made in a Hollywood basement, I hope you know that song.
A healthy level of scepticism is a good thing. Problem being that flerfers and space deniers aren't sceptical, they're either wilfully ignorant or outright liars. . . or both.
Many are compulsive contrarians. They have the secret knowledge the rest of us are too ignorant to have. You get the same kind of thing in Civil War "war was acksually about" and climate change denialism.
I know one. He's neither, just steadfastly believes everything is a lie except what the half baked flat earth TH-cam videos show. IMO it stems from not being able to grasp basic concepts like gravity and two people standing on the north and south pole can both stand upright with everything being completely normal.
Denialism is the word you're looking for.
It's a sad life to spend so much time bashing one of humanity s greatest achievements and symbols of international cooperation 😢
_“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.””_ -Isaac Asimov, *NEWSWEEK* Op-ed, 21 January 1980
Unfortunately, Dave, there is no "once and for all." So long as these people draw breath, they'll claim it's fake.
Well no there isn’t because the nuts just repeat the same lie pretending nothing happened.
More fun for us.
The comment I came here for.
why so ominous
@@Erurehtiowhy so serious?
Fun fact. While watching gravity from 2013 with Sandra Bullock, my mom actually caught a mistake. While on the ISS, Bullocks character, Ryan Stone doesn’t have her hair moving freely, or up like in real footage of female astronauts in space. Something i didn’t notice until she brought it up.
Little mistakes like that would come up a lot if NASA is faking space missions, but we don’t. So i think on that regard, Its pretty safe to assume that NASA is actually doing what they say they are doing
It's one of the minor things that fuel these "it's all fake" claims: that things don't look the way we expect them to look... because our expectation can often be based on "fakes" (well, fiction).
@@Groffili we already have a flurry of Space movies, specifically the BTS in films (ex. 2001,Apollo 13, Gravity, Martian, Life) that basically show that it takes a LONG STRENUOUS amount of time to make things look convincing no matter how high tech it is, especially at the cadence that NASA does…ANY broadcast.
@@Groffili essentially the actual movies that fake space, show that its nigh on impossible to fake what NASA is doing at the rate they are going.
True. You cannot unsee it once you are pointed to the mistake. Thanks for destroying the silver screen magic 😆
@@arctic_haze no problem 😀
Tha fact alone that flatters think they’re just fooling around day in and day out to make these videos just to make them fake is moronic. What ‘on earth’ should they do that for???
And yet again, hunting down the original FULL scene, as opposed to only the cherry picked parts the deniers use, DESTROYS their claims.
Who'd 'a think it?! Oh right, everyone thunk it.
Research is a b**ch for flerfs 😂
@@DaveMcKeegan And the hilarious part is, they claim that they "don't blindly believe what they're told", and that they "do their own research". Yea, right. Suuuure you do...
@@ReValveiT_01 They might do their own research, but since they researched how to research on their own, they suck at doing it.
@@DaveMcKeegan 1st law of flerfs, their own citations prove them wrong.
I posted on Level Earth Observer's channel when he cherry-picked Chris Hadfield's "wires". He isn't bright enough to watch the nearly twenty minutes of the original video and see that Hadfield is "sitting" cross-legged for quite a bit. Chris must have abs of granite to be able to hold that position AND dangle from wires without flipping forwards.
Then there's also the minor inconvenience of Tom playing with the Makita drill and Hadfield floating the Nikon about. But the best part is how obvious Hadfield's watch is floating around completely without gravity's influence.
But hey, no one said they're logical.
Imagine actually being a flat earther tho.. how much time must you have to think that the earth is flat
i personally think that a portion of flatearthers do it to gain views on youtube or such, because there is no one flat earth model and they have to change their own model for each question so that it makes sence. im not saying that there arent people who truely believe in the flat earth theory, but i dont think that these youtubers truely believe in that. (or they are really that stupid and dont realise that their own model does not make sense in the slightest bit)
They are that paranoid, they don't believe NOTHING they are told, even their own eyes or (lack of) common sense .Everything's a conspiracy.
A lot do it for money, it's the same as the 5g Deniers, all the science proves them wrong, but they make big money selling "anti-5g" devices to idiots who are afraid and don't look up or understand how 5g works. So they buy a little plastic card that says "5G-Protection" on it, for £200 and think they are now protected. Same with ads on youtube, patreon subscribers for flat earthers, the documentaries netflix and people pay for etc. etc. The ones leading these conspiracies rarely believe in them it's their followers who believe whilst they string them along for power and money...where have I heard that before, oh right a cult/religion. You'll notice a lot of time the followers never do any science or tests themselves, they just repeat the phrases and terms they have been taught by their leaders. Even though a lot of these things are very easy to test on your own with basic equipment, easier to believe than to question.
@@angrychompski The majority are religious nut jobs
Both of the flat earthers I know personally are unemployed freeloaders (apparently paying taxes is a racket of the jews or something). They have all the time in the world to think about the flatness
Why are the flat Earthers willing to accept zero G in a plane, but then deny that gravity exists?
Because they have zero physics knowledge. Not even enough to do a decent reality debunking.
Because all they ever consider is what they need for the thing they are trying to justify at the current moment. They give no thought to the implications for another claim.
Most conspiracy nuts are that way, like saying the moon footage is slow motion then also claiming seeing wires often talking about clips moments apart.
@@Isolder74 Another example is flerfs who claim we do not see over the horizon because we can only see objects closer than a few miles, forgetting that they also claim sun and moon are thousands of miles above us.
Every FE argument exists in its own separate universe, where it is unaffected by the logic or physics that govern any of the others.
Now we're going to have them calling them Zero Relative density disequilibrium flights 🤦🏻♂️
I think most people arguing “it’s not real” just never observe the entire footage outside of their little bubbles.
its not real and I can do this myself. Everything he just said is totally false from a video editing standpoint. You can see the guy passing the mic to the other hand avoiding the harness cables. Watch footage from a 0G plane and see how hair really reacts in 0G. When she took her hair down she had to shake it violently so it would fluff up. I cant believe people are so gullible but my IQ is 139 so I don't know what its like to be mentally challenged. lol
I think most people who think its real never researched FACTS outside of THEIR BIG Propaganda bubbles.
Speaking of bubbles .... in space. Don't stop believing, mate!
Why are you like that? Serious question. Why the fck are you like that@@mikeknight713
Haven’t seen a comment about this, but why does her hair not move AT ALL, yet the chains on her neck are moving around everywhere?
After watching your first video I was really surprised anyone saw this clip and thought, yep it's fake. Now having seen more of the original video it's clear they didn't think that because nobody could possibly arrive at that conclusion and that clip was selected in bad faith. Again, these science deniers have no honor or class
@@Grauenwolf Yes. Starting with a conclusion and desperately hunting to find something to support that conclusion.
@@Grauenwolf Exactly, pretty much the way these kind of conspiracy theories go is that the purveyors assert that because there's some individual detail in a far larger whole which is "wrong", or appears to be "wrong", they have ostensibly proven something even if everything else fits the official theory and the said detail being "wrong" can be explained in more mundane ways (such as the claimant being mistaken or too inexperienced).
Look at how quickly TC accepts any and all flat proofs offered him without question but picks through every detail of anything related to the globe.
@@Isolder74 That's called Double Standard Fallacy.
@@Kualinar Actually no: it's confirmation bias. You keep answers/explanations that already conforms to your viewpoint.
Double standard is when you hold different people/groups to different standards for the same premise or actions.
And now, watch the goalposts magically shift 20 feet to the right.
@@Nuke-MarsX
Ever heard of the expression "shifting goalposts"? It's when you can't deny someone's argument, so you just change the end goal of the argument.
@@sc2_Nightmare ah yes that makes sense thanks, no I haven't heard, I agree
speaking of goalposts...if you watch a PAT kick the arc of the ball proves the Earth is....damn it i cant even make a joke lol
😂 gaslighting
Haven’t seen a comment about this, but why does her hair not move AT ALL, yet the chains on her neck are moving around everywhere? 🤡
I feel like a lot of people who make excuses for it being fake don't actually think them through, they just kick the can down the road. I honestly don't know what people get out of saying these things are fake
Some people are just contrarians. Anything to be the special person who figures out the "sheep" don't. Attention seeking is part of it. Others are just plain idiots. In either case, once you have argued yourself into a corner you just become defensive and are unable to give up on the idea because you'd look extremely foolish.
@@timolynch149 They love calling other people sheep while going about actually acting like one. They often see a claim by one of their kind then all just copy-paste it without even considering or looking at it.
It's called misinformation for a TH-cam channel 😢 do you think anyone in this day and age actually thinks the known spherical earth is not what we see true reality 🤔 nooo obviously.
They MUST claim that those are fake to protect their all important narrative. They CAN'T accept the reality of space. Well, they can accept reality.
Flerfs, and conspiratards in general, are dump people who want very badly to be the smart kids but don't have the will or the means to pull it off. The only method left to them is to "see the big coverup that nobody else does" which is perfect for them because anything they can't understand is potentially evidence in their favor. In the event they don't find anything that they can twist into agreeing with their conclusions, the mere lack of evidence is proof of the coverup, which in turn proves their theories.
I dont necessarily think it's fake but I find the fact that her hair doesn't flow around freely in the same manner that her necklace does... kind of odd
It looks completely odd
Her hair isn't _supposed_ to flow around freely in the same manner that her necklace does.
@@Jan_StrzeleckiCan you elaborate?
@@carterfifteen Her hair isn't made out of metal.
Explain her floating necklace then.
You can't prove a flat earther wrong. They'll simply move the goal postvand act as if they never made the disproven claims
Most of them don't even read what you type.
You can't prove _to_ a flat earther _that they are_ wrong. It's about them, not about the facts.
@@ShizukuSeiji Or see the videos where they comment
You can prove them wrong, but it doesn't mean they have the attention span to listen or remember your debunking. Low IQ people simply don't have much attention span. The moment it gets a little bit complicated is the moment their mind drifts off. That's why flerfs immediately follow up with a new question after getting an answer. And at some point they are gonna start from the beginning and ask the 1st question again.
You can literally send them to space and they would still make excuses.
It's always funny watching people trying to claim every single one of thsee clips are fake. On the one hand they go in to such detail that they've got jewelry on its own harness and a ridiculous amount of editing time in post with huge teams of people, then on the other hand they have to miss and leave in "obvious" signs of fakery.
Standard flerf thing I guess, picking and choosing to try and have things both ways.
It’s Schrödinger’s Flerf. NASA are both incredibly clever and unbelievably sloppy at exactly the same time.
The conspiracy can only be as smart as the idiot uncovering it.
Globtards need to understand the government/military have weapons,technology heck even spacecrafts we don’t know about the general population after all it was the fbi who went into nikola Tesla office and took everything so they know shit we don’t and ppl have a hard time believing or accepting this cause they are owned by the government mentally and physically
What you mean..?
people did not land in moon?
Neil armstrong was fake?
It was a green screen that was filmed in a water tank in a zerogee plane, obviously.
They were reptilians so ofc it's possible for them to nreath under water, obviously.
😁👍😃
Maybe the zero G plane was on a harness and that's how they avoided it crashing into the floor 😁
@@DaveMcKeegan Nah, they just flew it at 17500mph at an altitude of around 250 miles above sea level, that way they can get those long, continuous shots.
@@joeschmo3844 wait a minute.. sounds familiar
At this point I’m 80% sure flat earthers and flat earth debunkers are working together so they can endlessly make these kind of videos. And we watch them all (on one side at least).
A smart money making scheme honestly
That’s a decent idea for a money making scheme. Have one person run a FE account, and then also an account to debunk the FE account
It'll never be enough to overcome the power of "nuh uh". But the point isn't to convince those who can't be convinced. It's to show just how weak their claims are to those who might otherwise fall for them. And you've done a fantastic job of that. Clear and thorough, as usual.
Another excellent video from Rusty and his sidekick.
“the power of ‘nuh-uh’”… classic 😂👌🏾
*A piece of information with research done to every last details and logical explanation over physical phenomenon
"Nuh uh!"
Nasa laundering billions
I've come to the conclusion that nobody actually believes the earth is flat. They just have a disorder that direct injects dopamine into their bloodstream when they lie.
Flerf: _Cherry picks video he thinks has a gotcha and demands explanation._
Glerf: _Addresses flerf's points, soundly debunking them._
Flerf: YoU cHeRy PicKeD tHat VideO! WaTcH tHe WhOLe tHinG!
Flerf: Choosing whichever parts of physics they don't like to ignore.
Also Flerf: No, you cherry picking the video.
Feels like flerfs don't have the attention span to pay attention to the debunking and remember it. They gonna ask 15 other questions and then ask this one again.
Having worked with green screen editing and animation, I can say that it is extremely difficult to get the shadows falling on a green screen to line up with a background image. Especially like the irregular parts that jut out in the background behind the astronauts. One would have to construct a 3D model that matches the background structure to enable the green screen shadows to conform on it. It certainly could not be done in real time for a live stream.
You reckon you have the same green screen technology as NASA?
@@keithmc8654 🤦♂
@@keithmc8654 Yes.
@@Isaac_Flat_Earth Biggest cult ever
If earth is flying at 800,000 kmph, let's say India is flying upwards, then America would be flying downwards, because it's opposite, so after 12 hours India flies downwards and America flies upwards, right? Meantime other countries fly sideways.
This is the event that you claim that happens everyday. So as you can see how silly and laughable is this! Right?
So sad, billions of people believed on flying ball earth so deep in their every cell, since their childhood, now this sudden truth bothers them deeply, because every brain cell is filled with ball earth, it's the most heart breaking for globers.
The effort it takes to create/manipulate this kind of footage is almost more difficult than actually going to space
When it comes to the moon landing footage, from a technial standpoint it was easier to send people to the moon than to film something that looked the way it did.
@@RocketboyX Sure it was rocket boy sure it was . Unfortunately all the telimentry data was trashed so hard to back it with numbers and facts .
@@creamwobbly yeah and launching from moon and docking with tiny module was child’s play.
@@rustybeltrebel6213 Any proof ?
@@pierreboissonneault Proof of what ?
5:30 his arm and leg would also collide with the "wire" that was "grabbed". So either the wire somehow passed through his arm and leg, or the wire became disconnected during the roll and instantly reconnected (somehow) in time to be grabbed.
Absolutely. That is the first thing I noticed with this supposedly " Fake " video. His arms and legs must also be CGI.
@@galaxyhunter1978 These astronauts must be fully CGI! In fact, they must be robots invented by NASA for the sake of faking these images!
Side note on "it looks like the other fingers are grabbing something": Yes, the whole hand acts together. The main grabbing muscle, flexor digitorum profundus, connects to all the fingers. Which finger would catch a fold wasn't a great concern, and moving them separately is complicated.
FE: They must have faked it with a plane that can go fast and free fall longer.
GE: Yes.
Wait, no, wait that's technically true
I mean, even then it would also have to fly at _extremely_ high altitude, like over 200 miles. Oh, wait…
They faked it with a plane that goes so fast that it is freefalling around the Earth... Oh dear, that would require a globe... 🤣🤣🤣
Underrated comment of the year. Bravo :D
Yes but it goes in circles
I love how conspiracy theorists always share clips at the lowest quality possible in order to mask any details that might, ya know, totally blow up their theories. Watched two of your videos so far. Both were great. Definitely subscribed. Partly because of the content but mostly because of your dog 😉
Oh so you are calling NASA conspiracy theorists then since they lost the original footage?
@@vacuumandgaspressurecoexisting You can literally find a link to a 720p version of the original broadcast in this video’s description… the clip I always see get passed around certainly isn’t 720p. It’s always just fuzzy enough to cast doubt. Seems like a really targeted coincidence….
Also, I’m not just talking about this video. I’m talking about the dishonest way all of these “NASA LIES” videos get passed around. Like the famous “chromakey” video. They say it shows NASA using a green screen. The evidence? A video of an astronaut using a blue screen with a white grid on it (for measuring motion) can be seen on a screen in the background. That video was filmed for and disseminated to the public, yet people pass it around like it’s something that wasn’t meant to be seen… what a joke. Wasn’t meant to be seen? It’s on TH-cam right now…
@@vacuumandgaspressurecoexisting He never said that and you know it. Why are all of you flat earthers so dishonest?
Holy! You utterly destroyed any and all notions this video is faked and not in orbit around the earth. One of the best most thorough savage beat downs I’ve ever witnessed!!
Agreed.
Agreed!
Indeed.
is this sarcasm =?
Respectfully; Anybody who thinks the world is flat really needs to get some professional help.
Or a REAL job...as unlikely as that sounds.
but professionals are part of the ominous cabal of misinforming organization perpetuated by the evil NASA so they won't ever seek that.
The Royal College of Psychiatrists just collectively shivered ...
Like all of you who believe the governments arent run by a satanic cult. Right kiddo
Wake up and smell the free masons.
i bet a few dubay followers are angry
If I may weigh in: all those special effects deniers are invoking require so many re-takes, and so much post-production work to make it even remotely believable. Those conferences were held live, with questions from the audience. There is NO image technology that allows any of that. Not even close.
The deniers would say it wasn't live, I think.
Well, that would just be a baseless claim without evidence, so…
They just claim that NASA has secret technology which makes such image manipulation possible. :D
(And at the same time, they claim that NASA does _not_ have the technology for spacefligt. :D )
You are wrong there are even videos of it and you can add objects in real-time eveb interacting with them. Bet ya everything in my savings account. But you go ahead and keep thinking you know what you are talkin about buddy!
@@danegleasack3797 Geometry is turning the frogs gay!
Speaking from personal perspective, I can say that the source of such skepticism comes largely from a lack of education. Nearly a decade ago I was big on conspiracy theories. As I got older I decided to pursue educational pursuit in maths, sciences, engineering, and technology. The greater my pool of knowledge becomes, the smaller that pocket of conspiratorial thinking becomes.
Sadly, it's easier for these people to hand wave these things away in denial than it is for them to seek valid sources of trustworthy information.
SO you are saying that high school dropouts should NOT go around saying that all of the Engineers and Physicists are wrong?
Good for you!
@@stuartgray5877 Yeah, I didn't buy into all conspiracy theories. For example, I understood the Earth is round, gravity exists, universal constants etc.. However, I would be one to believe that 5G is a government scheme, I could be swayed to agree with moon landing deniers, and I thought the government would cover up UFOs and extraterrestrial contact.
Also: I'd like to mention that the term conspiracy theorist is a bit of a misnomer. Theories are the best tested proof positives that can yield scientific models. It makes more sense to call them hypotheses conspirators. As you can always make a bad hypothesis that you don't bother to test.
Go watch any of the videos done by Austin Witsit because I bet my next paycheck he's a hell of a lot smarter than 90% of anyone commenting here. You could use some humility and judge others less, because not only are their opinions not harming anyone, but most of us aren't bothered by the beliefs of strangers who are stuck an not growing or evolving like we are supposrd to do. You're mostly followers so you wont get behind or support the truth until the mass majority of others do. Its too much work doing any research or investigating of your own isn't it? Just keep believing what masters say, obey and pay your taxes like good sheep.
Really the conspiracy theories to ignore are the ones that are wacky and can be proven false by modern science. For instance, Israeli colonizers and their claiming of Palestinian land. As they say over and over that historically Palestine once belonged to their ancestors. This can obviously be scientifically disproven. Just like Jews being present in Egypt. Yeah, there is nothing historically or scientifically accurate about that whatsoever. According to archaeological findings, they were never there, period.
So yeah, there are countries still colonizing and committing war crimes based on non scientific, non historical lies spun by their religious texts thousands of years ago. Specifically the book of Joshua when the Israelites massacred the Canaanites. Which is literally how Israelis view themselves in this war against Palestine…
Besides, the conspiracies that tend to be worth investigating and at least a bit of looking into, for sure tend to be the ones that no one has yet to disprove. You know, the ones that the media, the government, and most “skeptics” try to change the subject on nervously every time they’re brought up.
Israel is 1 such example…
Child trafficking and Satanic Ritual Abuse is another…
Ah yes the conspiracies that just about every politician refuses to acknowledge, which are the conspiracies that the CIA tends to somehow always strangely be involved in and bury at the last moment right?
Such as child trafficking and satanic ritual abuse. The Satanic Panic, a bunch of crazy bullshit right? Like a precursor to Pizzagate right?
Well…not so fast their Sparky!
As this is one of the bizarre out of this world conspiracies entirely rooted in truth. And at this point we’ve all heard about Epstein Island sure. As well as all of the bizarre pedophile rings that were discovered in the 1970s and and 1980s. No? Well for starters there was the Franklin Scandal Coverup in Omaha, Nebraska, in which a higher up politician named Laurence King was pimping out children to high up elites and politicians in Washington DC. Where he would fly the children out with him, take them to these fancy parties in DC, when after it would get late a second party would start. And they’d basically have an Eyes Wide Shut satanic blood orgy, but much more sadistic and fucked up. Involving adults abusing children. They were also filmed while doing this. For both blackmail purposes, as well as pornography distribution purposes.
North Fox Island, (Yet another pedo island, surprise surprise -_-), off the coast of Lake Michigan near Detroit involved the same stuff except less politicians and more the wealthy elite CEOs of the old Detroit auto companies empire.
Chicago and the Delta Project, Not to mention all of the bizarre connections between John Wayne Gacey, politics and politicians in Chicago connected to both organized crime and the Democratic Party, Dean Correl, Philip Paske, and John Norman’s The Delta Project, a highly sophisticated national child trafficking ring that allegedly produced snuff films and child porn from their kidnapped young male victims.
And at last, our final group…
The Finders, a literal Satanic Cult involved in kidnapping, sexually abusing, and trafficking young children all over the United States, Europe, Canada, Australia, Africa, and Asia (including I kid you not North Korea). Probably used as a way of blackmailing people by taking pictures of the Men and kids involved in these acts.
This all started when 2 suspicious men in black suits were discovered transporting 6 children all between the ages of 2 and 11. The kids were described as “scruffy” and “hungry” and appeared as though they hadn’t bathed in days. After police were called about the children looking hungry and possibly mistreated under suspicious circumstances, the police questioned them and demanded to search the van.
It was in the van police would find a soiled mattress, a fairly sophisticated computer system, cameras, and a collection of photo albums that featured pictures of naked children, as well as photos showing children wearing white robes and adults wearing black robes as they performed a ritualistic sacrifice on a goat.
The men were promptly arrested and the children were taken into protective custody. All of the children medically examined and showed signs of malnourishment and sexual abuse. The 2 oldest children named Marry and Max were interviewed as the 2 men were interrogated.
This next part I’m just going to quote from Wikipedia because…well it’s a lot…
“It was discovered that the children were raised on a farm with little adult supervision, with there being twenty adults and one other child present. The younger children were observed to display behavior indicating they were not used to being in a house or using indoor plumbing, requesting to go outside to use the bathroom, or urinating in their pants (noted to lack underwear). "Max" had a poor concept of time. They explained that they were being “weaned” from their mothers and were rarely allowed inside the house, even sleeping outside. Neighbors observed that the children apparently lived in the farm’s watermelon field. Mary described the 2 men as their "teachers", teaching them to read and "play games".
One game involved disrobing a man, wearing his clothes, and going through his pockets for money (she later revised her statement and asserted that only jackets were involved). The two reported seeing female members of the cult naked and believed this to be another game as well. When questioned about "bad touches" Mary denied sexual abuse but "became very fidgety and wanted to end the interview." At another Finders farm in Virginia, agents recorded cages on the premises, with witnesses asserting they were used to keep children. As of 2022, the full medical and psychological reports are not available for public viewing.
According to U.S. District Court records in Washington, a confidential police source had previously told authorities that the Finders were "a cult" that conducted "brainwashing" techniques at a warehouse and a Glover Park duplex raided by law enforcement. This source told of being recruited by the Finders with promises of "financial reward and sexual gratification" and of being invited by one member to "explore" satanism with them, according to the documents. Police sources said some of the items seized showed pictures of children engaged in what appeared to be "cult rituals." Officials of the U.S. Customs Service said that the material seized included photos showing children involved in bloodletting ceremonies of animals and one photograph of a child in chains.
It was noted by a detective during the investigation that documents were discovered with detailed instructions about methods to obtain children for unspecified purposes (including the impregnation of female members of the community, purchasing, trading, and kidnapping), but neither the documents nor anyone else with knowledge of them could later be found.”
Now I hear you asking, how did a simple cult manage to do that…
Well…
The Finders had connections…
Serious connections…
You see, eventually the FBI had built up quite the case. They had photographic proof showing children engaged in literal Satanic rituals for Christ sakes.
However, out of nowhere the entire case was squashed by…
Yup…you guessed it…
The CIA…
To quote Wikipedia again…
“CIA spokesman David Christian asserted that the charges were a misunderstanding stemming from a company by the name of Future Enterprises Inc. being used to train agents, with one member of the Finders working as a part-time accountant there.”
Yeah, whatever the fuck that means…
Just more garbled Government gibberish like the phrase “Magic Bullet Theory,” and “Israeli Defense Strategy.”
My point is with real life conspiracies and massive organized criminal groups involved in some of the worst crimes imaginable that have been proven time and time again to be not only connected to but protected by the very people that are supposed to be in charge of our countries, setting a positive example for their people as they run our country. And yet, time and time again this is proven to be false. As it seems as though anyone that attempts to change things for the better is quickly done away with.
My point is this…
Flat Earth is nothing but a psyop to distract people from the real conspiracy…
The one that everyone deep down to some degree knows is true…
Whether they believe it only happens in places like Mexico, Eastern Europe, and the Philippines and it’s only underground criminal cartels that are involved…
Or they open their eyes and realize it’s so much bigger then they could possibly ever imagine…
Because the more people understand the scope and the type of people involved in that type of traffic. When they realize the only people that could afford to purchase a trafficked child is someone incredibly wealthy. These aren’t sickos that only lurk around basements. These are well respected politicians, CEOs, royal family members, oil barons, bankers, land owners.
This is how it’s an industry…
It’s always been supported by the super rich elites because they’re the only one with the money, power, and influence to make a crime as heinous as that, even with tons of obvious incriminating evidence just completely vanish in thin air…
Funny how heliosexuals love making "debunk" videos but never debates 😂🤙🏽
The fact this stuff needs to be explained to people makes me weep for common sense.
Its okay, I did the maths. I seriously doubt there are more than a million flerfs on the planet, most of those in the USA's bible belt of course. Not a single one in the southern hemisphere. Not one with a half-decent education. With 8 billion humans on the planet flerfs make up only 0.0125% so we're totally fine; "common" sense is good to go, there's just a stupidly small percentage of uncommon sense out there and we can safely ignore it.
Flat earthers decided they were right
While roundearthers proved we are correct
Crazy part is how the proof just gets ignored 😂
I don't think the earth is flat but I do know for a fact all nations are run by the free mason cult meaning that they are lying to us. Welcome to the world run by the pyramids eye
@@xXJerry202Xxabsolutely gets ignored when it clearly showed he grabbed wires😂😂😂
You mean globetards?
Haven’t seen a comment about this, but why does her hair not move AT ALL, yet the chains on her neck are moving around everywhere?🐸☕️
I personally believe that if a flat earther got invited to go into space and to the Station to see for them selves that the earth is a globe, they would come back and still claim it was fake.
Yup, they'd say they'd been drugged and shown fake movies on a screen.
Yup, absolutely.
William Shatner went to the supposed edge of space and he said all he saw was the deepest darkness he's ever seen and nothing but death above us and and that earth shall always be our only home and none of you want to hear that.
@@tommosher8271 and despite all the poetry, earth is still sphere shaped haha
@@tommosher8271 Why does William Shatner's opinion matter?
I've been a hair stylist over 20 years and you absolutely can make hair stand up like that very easily & be able to put your fingers through it you dont have to put so much hairspray that its crunchy at all you use a matt finish past & you you use the hair dryer about 1ft or so and blow the finishing hairspray at same time it will do that effect no problem no need to be "drowned in hairspray" the straight strands on the sides are definitely not free flowing &the way she put her fingers multiple times in it trying to separate it w/ minimal separation absolutely shows there's product in it 100% SIR YOUR DEBUNK HAS BEEN DEBUNKED!
If you were a hair stylist, you'd know that hair has a natural rigidity. Why do you hoaxers feel the need to lie about everything?
(Well, silly question, it is of course because you don't have a single argument in your favor.)
Do you have a demonstration to show it can replicate it?
Without such you might as well claim you can pee diamonds
And regardless the hair wasn't the whole debunk - there is still the issues of the floating necklace & microphone, the prolonged floating of 4 people in close proximity and the drastically changing lighting
@@DaveMcKeegan How is it possible that the astronaut reaches into the air and suddenly holds a stuffed toy in her hand? Can the good woman do magic or is that grennscrene?
@@DaveMcKeegan Not sure how much actual education you have in cosmetology but as a well educated cosmetologist its very easy to see how the hair is done to create that look
pissing diamonds is a idiotic reference you dont have to be an Urologist to know thats impossible Not having any education in cosmetology and claiming that a stylist couldn't creat hair to look & act like that is in no manner similar aspects
@@bigdeal6336 I don't really have any, which is why I asked if we could see a demonstration
Just claiming you're knowledgeable in the subject and that it's easily possible doesn't mean it's true which is why I'd be interested in seeing it actually done
Occam‘s razor: exists
Flerfs: I pretend I didn’t see that
your videos are great, easy to understand explanations, great examples and editing, and very informative
Thank you, glad people are enjoying them 😊
@@DaveMcKeegan That and Rusty.
TH-cam censor comments and videoes about nasa lying, looks sus
If only flerfers put this much mental energy into productive things.
yeah, like a real map or pictures/images showing a wide flat plain spreading off into the distance showing the lights at night of other cities far away .....
I have this feeling that flerfs are not productive people, no matter what they do with their time.
They write some pretty entertaining songs, and make amusing desk knick-knacks.
@@bunnykillerthese kind of things have been shown many times, but you will never hear of it on these channels, I have seen footage if mountain ranges from over 200 miles away which not even the most extreme/convenient amount of refraction would allow to see that far
@@Ellegedly Incorrect. Flat earthers have never been able to put forth an actual functioning map or any of the other things bunny mentioned. All observations line up with a globe expectation. If you think otherwise then by all means provide the picture along with all the necessary data to put it to the test. If you are going to try pic de Finestrelles to pic Gaspard in the alps well that fits the globe just fine as the photographer himself said he tried many different times and got the perfect moment relying upon refraction in order to see it. Furthermore the taller mountain being observed is below the level of the photographer which confirms the curvature of the earth as on a flat earth the other mountain would still be above the level of the photographer.
i love your dog dude, as soon as you start your outro, he realizes, gets excited it and raises his paws, cute afff
People are sometimes critically stupid
And in the case of flat earthers...they're stupid all the time
Yes, we all are! I used to believe in an almighty and invisible god that loves me until I was 10 and started wondering if some entity like that actually exists. When I was 19 I believed that there was strong evidence that aliens had visited Earth in the past. Who knows which of the beliefs that I hold today are equally nonsensical? I am 64 now and somewhere along the way I got degrees in chemistry and in physics and I have often been "accused" of having a scientific mindset. (I take that as a compliment even when I know the person stating it didn't mean it that way! 😜) It's really hard to know which of one's beliefs are utter nonsense and which aren't! Hopefully I have learned to be way more skeptical as I grew older but that doesn't completely protect me from holding nonsensical beliefs and that's true for all humans! At least I know that I can still give up strongly held beliefs even after multiple decades because I did just that about half a year ago. Still, I have no idea what nonsense remains in my little grey cells!
@@ruschein see how arsenal got 36 likes but you got 0? Its because we aren’t talking about religion and you are just begging for attention
@@ruschein also nobody asked lmao
@@a_coloradan8689 I am neither begging for attention nor do I care how many likes I get! And yes, religion is the greatest example for people believing in unsubstantiated nonsense and therefore pertinent in this discussion!
Calm , Rational well reasoned - debunking done pretty well perfectly
😂😂😂😂 which part did tye debunking more like it just showed actual proof of wires 😂😂 dufus tf
"They faked it by (insert insanely complicated set of explanations that require a stupid amount of effort just to perpetrate a hoax that has no plausible reason to bother perpetrating)."
Really what about the BILLIONS NASA spends every year? It's more than the annual profits of the music, movie/tv, & gaming industries COMBINED...multiple times more. That's nothing?
An all we get is CGI composites and make believe stories in return. The cog dis is real hope you can overcome! Blessings.
Your patience in explaining this stuff to dumbos who will NEVER accept they are wrong is both astonishing to me and makes me feel sad that so much excellent effort was wasted 😢
Also, the fact that Christopher drifts to the left is another reason why he's obviously not on cables.
Yes, if he was on cables he would swing in a gentle arc.
Huh.. he didnt swing coz both of his actornaut friend obviously pull them
I can't believe that this still has to be explained to adults.
MANY "adults" are still emotional adolescents...
OMG!!! You could actually bring some these people on the ISS and they still wouldn't believe it.
Even as they died in agony after “stepping outside” they’d still be thinking “Nah, this hard vacuum that’s killing me isn’t real.”
@@joeschmo3844 They probably would think that someone put the ISS inside a vacuum chamber just to fool them. And after the flerf died, others would think that person was killed to protect the secret.
Nasa never share raw footage
Thank you so much for your videos. I have been a flat earther for nearly 10 years, and your videos have helped me to break free of the paranoia and anger that accompany conspiratorial thinking. Again, thank you.
That's great, always good to hear that my videos have been helpful
do you still believe in covid vaccines and the Mars Rover?
It would actually be really interesting to see someone try to recreate this clip on earth using wires and green screen, just to see how different it would end up looking. Space scenes in films and tv can be somewhat convincing, but there's always something that gives away that it's fake.
Let's get @Corridor on it!
@@RikardPeterson yes! It could be the next in their conspiracy debunking series.
If I can get 50-60 million a day for the 50 years I'll have it no problem
That reminds me of the moon hoax nuts who think that Kubrick faked the moon landings. He took a couple of years to photograph 2001: A Space Odyssey. In which has a few scenes on the moon. All of which totally ignore 1/6th gravity. They always just walk normally, as if on Earth. Unlike Apollo, where the leave the surface with both feet on almost every fast step.
@@Ellegedly For that much money I could build a rocket and film it for real!
10:32 Addressing the floating necklace with "green screen" is comically daft because the necklace isn't in front of the background. Its in front of her neck and clothes.
Do these people think they used a green neck?
If the necklace was a CG construction not only would it need to be painstakingly blended with her body frame by frame for the entire length of the 20 minute shot but so would its shadows. Any video effects artist asked to do this would tell you to piss off because it would be a monumental (and virtually impossible) task to do convincingly.
For some reason I did the math. If the video is shot at 24 frames per second, it means there are 1440 frames in 1 minute and that would 28800 frames for 20 minutes.
Let us say it takes 1 minute to edit 1 frame (Nase gfx editors are wizards), it would take 480 hours to edit it. That's 20 days of non-stop editing (24u / day). And that's just for the necklace.
@@elBartoDR and it would take far more than a minute to mask the necklace in one frame.....not even counting the shadows.
I watch your "flat earth" video with the same humor of knowing I should not drive by a road way accident, and slow down to view the carnage. You do a great job of countering all of the conspiracy theories of "...it was on a sound stage, with green screen...". Well done Dave.
Alright sweet now doing one on the people appearing out of nowhere
Not only people. Also objects appearing out of nowhere. Lot of ISS clips clearly identified as cgi and forgery. Maybe not all but a lot.
Dave, nobody never mentions the obvious effect of gravity on faces, or lack thereof in ISS shots. All faces in zero G look puffed up because the gravity is not pulling it down or any other direction and their faces are unchanged whichever way they are positioned. Is this a bit too much of a mental arithmetics for the flerfs?
Exactly. They all look like they’re doing handstands.
Exactly. Same way your face hangs differently when you're upside down (here on the ground I mean).
@@brianparr988 Yes. If you take photos of your face whilst on the ground, the right way up, upside down and on each side and then flip them all right side up, you can appreciate just how much gravity affects or faces. That doesn’t happen in zero g and the face looks equally distorted which ever way they are pointing and that is the best evidence for absence of gravity in those shots. Zero G plane mimics that to an extent but its too short and inconsistent and very expensive I must add. Its awesome that Dave included shots of Apollo 13 shooting scenes in Zero G plane - one wonders why would they do that if they can just fake it, as they claim everything in space is faked. Why paying so much money if they can just use studio and strings 🤔
@@kruger78 Strong point Even Hollywood need real, actuall zero G (or near as) for the movie to be as realistic as possible. Be interesting to hear a flerf's take on this point. A very long pause, occasional distant bell, and some kind of tumbleweed scenario comes to mind.
It’s totally obvious and clear that the microphone cord is connected to a harness to give the appearance it’s in outer space, and each individual one of her hairs is connected to a harness to give the appearance they’re in outer space, in fact this comment currently is connected to a harness to give the appearance it’s in outer space 😳
I don't believe you.
Mic cable can easily be cg.
Hair, on the other hands, ore difficult to cg, so they use hair spray
IT WOULD LITERALLY BE HARDER TO FAKE THIS, THAN TO DO IT FOR REAL.
So you're saying we should film the fake moon landing... on the moon?!
An excellently placed Mitchell and Webb reference? Why I think so!❤
@@Hawk_of_Battlebut then it wouldn't be fake
@@kittyn5222 that's the point we've been trying to make for years.
Globtards need to understand the government/military have weapons,technology heck even spacecrafts we don’t know about the general population after all it was the fbi who went into nikola Tesla office and took everything so they know shit we don’t and ppl have a hard time believing or accepting this cause they are owned by the government mentally and physically
It’s funny to me that space deniers don’t believe that it’s possible to be in space, but acknowledge zero g’s in a plane is possible. The ironic part about being in orbit around the earth, is that that’s exactly what the plane trick is. The only difference is that the zero g’s in a plane has a time limit. All an orbit is, is an object constantly falling towards the earth, but because it’s traveling sideways at such a high speed, it’s always missing the earth. So of course you experience zero g’s in orbit. It’s the plane trick on a more permanent scale. You’re always falling so you always experience this weightlessness.
Sadly, with flatards and reality deniers, there's no such thing as 'once and for all'
As the old saying goes, 'You can't teach stupid" 🙄
You can't cure stupid. Being as stupid as a flatard is a disease.
I think we're all stupid, it's just a matter of degree!
@Johannes Ruscheinski
Ignorant, yes, foolish too, but stupid in the science denying flatardian sense is something of a special kind.
A degree is something no flatards will ever have. 😉
@@Zubareffstream111 Well, just look at the millions that believe that there is no climate change caused by humans even though there is near universal consensus in the scientific community or the all the nuts that believe in various conspiracies relating to vaccinations or the millions that believe that Trump's re-election was stolen etc., etc.
Also, don't get me started on religious beliefs! We humans love to believe things that make us feel good, whether it's that we're in on something that others aren't or that we're special etc.
@@Zubareffstream111 Wilfully ignorant people are the worst.
09:55 shes upside down and the hair points down. Come on man.. how much they pay you with public money to lie to the public??
@@Gambiarradaroca what exactly do you think her hair would do?
Hahahahahhahahahah🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤌🏾 yes come on man
They can hardly accuse anyone of cherry-picking, considering that is their modus operandi. They trawl through many hours of video, trying to find a few seconds they can claim are faked, while ignoring all that they cannot fault.
The key with Flat Earth folks is that they have FAITH. Thus they can explain away any facts and logic you present.
Faith? Like Flerfs are a 'Religion' ... or dare I say ... 'Cult' 😂😂😂
@@TheMvoelker1 Yes, like a religion (FE TH-cam are their holy scriptures), but no to the cult. There's no leader, just some FE folks are more prominent than others.
It's actually genuinely incredible that the people that claim it's green screens, or wires, or what-have-you clearly have no idea how any of those things work and seem to be ignorant to even how things behave here on earth in regards to gravity, drag and even just being in water.
Yep, that is the funniest part of flerfers and moon hoaxers coming up with comparisons and technical details: they just reveal that they have no clue about those either.
WHATS SO INCREDIBLE ABOUT ORDINARY PEOPLE COMMENTING ON THINGS THERE NOT EXPERT ON?
I love all the "it has to be fake because [thing that would be impossible on Earth]" claims 😂
I have definite proof that your videos are shot under water. Your "dog" is obviously a seal in disguise 😜
Genetically engineered gills. 🤫
Are you sure it's not a dogfish?
@@kevinskinner4986 Only Hans can get to the bottom of this pantomime! 🙃
@@arctic_haze Would that be Hans Hass, who with his wife Lotte pioneered under water film making and documentaries in the 1950s? Or would that be Hans Wormhat, the all round nutter who believes that just about every animal on the planet is fake?
@@thearmouredpenguin7148 In the flat earth, there is only one Hans. The one who claims that koalas are disaster actors. Yes, Wormhat.
Big applause to you Dave. You're quickly becoming one of the best out there at showing the flerfs how deluded they are. Keep up the good work.
Much appreciated 😊
Especially for stuff like this. You know how to actually do what they pretend is happening.
Both sides are wrong and no 1 truly understands reality…just a bunch of humans enslaved by their 5 senses
I love how you stay respectful at all times while debunking this. This is exactly the style of debunking we need, so people who are in doubt stay with you and don't be pushed away by feeling ridiculed. Thank you so much
I agree with you. This is the style of debunking we need but at the same time things don't always need to be debunked. If it's not hurting anybody then sometimes you just have to let people believe what they wanna believe. Left brain logic doesn't need to be brought into every situation in life
Thank you my friend its called live and let live. Wolves are not bothered by the opinions of sheep. Which is why I don't try to convert anyone, I don't need others confirmation to back up my beliefs. I form them based on my own experiences and not the opinions of strangers.
Unfortunately the flerfs that watch this video will just "nuh uh" it all away. They cannot accept reality so they must create a vivid fantasy of a flat earth.
Great review. And mentioning that it is just a cut of a much longer, continuous video is a killer. That microphone cord, during rolls and putting over Doug's head is pretty tough to explain as well. It's easy for someone to say 'green screen', but only by those that haven't actually done it. I've learned so much by watching your channel, and you always have a calm, informative approach. Keep it up.
The idea that footage was taken in a Zero G plane would in fact be an admission that Gravity exists, debunking the notion of a flat earth with a paradoxical argument!!
It has to do with weight and the sudden drop
@@Globeisahoaxx 😂😂
@@Globeisahoaxx Weight? Are you sure....
@@Globeisahoaxx Why do objects have weight?
@Globe is a hoax what's the formula for finding somethings weight again?
One of the greatest pieces of evidence is you can go out and see the ISS. Ive seen it fly over a dozen times. It really puts onto perspective how awesome humanity really is. We can do this shit, how awesome!
I don't get why people try to disprove space travel. Do people not like the idea that we can do great things, that we can challenge nature and do things that are far beyond the wildest dreams of our ancestors?
The idea! You said it yourself...its nothing more than an idea...a fantastical lie. They programmesd you with science fiction (star wars etc). You have an emotional connection to the lie that is outer space...but what it comes down to is that you feel like you don't have
the strength inside you to accept that you're living a lie
And with regards to you seeing the I.S.S...you have seen something travel across the sky that you've been told is a spaceship....one that is around 100 miles above you and is not much different in size to a jumbo jet.....could u see a jumbo jet if it were at the same height as the supposed I.S.S?
The answer is no....ALSO there are many videos showing the supposed I.S.S fading in and out in the sky...as if it it is nothing more than some kind of holographic projection
Holographic Projections exist and can be run quite easy with current technology. Believing that the ISS exists by just trusting your eyes is no different that it doesn't exist by just listening to "flat earth conspiracists". The issue here is that you cannot prove it for yourself here on earth. aka take a flight and actually venture into the ISS
How long before Slappys sock puppets turn up and start blathering about triangles instead?
I hate it when they go off on _tangents_ about it being impossible to measure angles from curved adjacents. It makes it obvious that when their math classes started discussing math using letters instead of numbers their brains shutdown.
I’d love to imagine that it is “once and for all”,but I haven’t got high hopes. Let them drown in their misunderstandings and let’s move on.
By the way,this video is exceptionally well done 👍
To be fair, I do appreciate these people arguing.
I've learned so much about space, zero-gravity, photography, Globe theory from watching these videos.
Always pretty informative and never truly disrespectful.
On the other hand....
I've never watched flat-earther content. Who knows, they're views might also be informative, and one always needs to see a story rom both sides, right?
Guess I'm cursed to remain uninformed for the rest of my life
@@DarkVoid5028 as someone who has seen flerf content you aren't missing much. Half of them think that screaming is good argumentation and not a single one even knows what the modern theory of our solar system even claims.
@@DarkVoid5028 Believe me you really aren't missing much.
@@DarkVoid5028 That's because there is NO substance to ANY of their fanciful claims. Their only game is "prove the globe", and they NEVER provide evidence one for their fantasy.
i think i have figured it out, its wireless harnesses connected by bluetooth
Ah yes when im in a cgi green screen my jewelry and hair are being manipulated by zero g gravity
The thing is, not matter how much proof you provide, how many times you debunk their ridiculous claims, even if you were to actually take them to space personally, they’ll still claim “fake”. Most of these people have been making their claims for so long, they’re so deeply invested in their bs, that admitting they were wrong is too painful and embarrassing for them…
Good point and well said!
Why are they ridiculous?
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002 because in this day and age, the proof is so ridiculously overwhelmingly abundant that the Earth is a sphere, and anybody with more than two brain cells to rub together would know that. Just take one example of the trillions and trillions of dollars that have been spent on space exploration and continue to be spent by countries all around the world and the number of rocket launches there have been since they started in the 50s. Hundreds of thousands of people spending their entire lifetime devoted to space exploration or any of the supporting infrastructure necessary, etc, etc, etc... there is absolutely zero reason why all that time, effort, money and resources would be poured into keeping a hoax alive; and it only continues to increase as time goes on. Not to mention the fact that there would be absolutely no reason to keep such a hoax if in fact it were one. And one more thing... not one single solitary whistleblower from among all of the hundreds of thousands of people that would have to be in on the hoax in order to keep it a secret. And that's just the tiniest tip of the iceberg!!
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002Because they make willfully ignorant claims about the state of the universe we live in, they push false narratives, and they deny centuries worth of scientific evidence and research. That's why
@@jex-the-notebook-guy1002because for the majority of them they lack credibility.
Like the claim she used a ton of hair spray.
I mean, the debunking done here is nice, but im still mostly here for Rusty
Ask any hairdresser. Lots of hair spray (or gel) can make your hair stick up, but rigidly, like punk mohawks. Not *flow* upwards like that. There's at least one video showing a lady astronaut washing her hair in space, wet hair sticking up. Why that video is never mentioned by flatearthers? 😏
Well LEO has but mostly to complain that it’s fake because the water would damage systems so it can’t be in space ‘cause pantomime. He even implies that to be real NASA would insist they shave their heads and never bathe/wash their hair.
Not that he ever says anything of substance as his main argument is space is fake so fake because I say so(while saying big words he clearly doesn’t understand).
Exactly, hair that's been sprayed/gelled doesn't stand straight up after removing a hair tie. No matter how much you shake your head, it will not stand straight up. They can't even do a simple experiment before making such a S+uPlD claim.
Because it destroys their claims.
Just watch how she runs her fingers through her hair after taking the bowtie off, impossible with all that hairspray the flerfs claim.
The hair is the most interesting thing to me in these video. Not because I think it's proof that it's fake. But because I don't understand why on ISS the hair stays up no matter what but on the 0G plane the hair floats like it's underwater. The hair clearly behaves differently on the ISS and those 0G planes for some reason.
On zero-g-planes, the people usually have nicely washed hair. On the ISS it is more sticky as water is limited.
@@Schmidtelpunkt hahahahaha this
Imagine raising a child for 18 years only for them to grow up to be a flat earther.
How to fail as a parent.
Imagine being 18 and finding out your dad is a flat earther. My daughter was about to marry a guy, so we had his parents over for dinner. Future father in law starts going on about how the moon landings are fake. Run away, run away!
@@johnritchie3889 At least with the moon landing conspiracy there's a vaguely plausible reason for faking it even if the evidence isn't conclusive - believing that an unknown cabal of elitists (aka "they") are hiding the shape of the planet for no apparent reason with literally no supporting evidence is another thing altogether. If my daughter's future father in law believed the moon landings were fake I could let that slide ... but if he was a flat earther, yeah I'd have issues.
sounds like you wouldn't be done parenting yet. lol
Imagine raising a child only for them to "grow up" into a spiteful, self-righteous, and judgemental, crowd follower who only appeals to authority and believes everything they hear without actually investigating it themselves. Why are you so bothered by opinions of complete strangers? Even have to hurl insults and talk down on them simply because they have different opinions on something that doesn't harm or affect you. It's really ignorant and only serves to slow your growth. Rise above it you are better than that. Be an adult.
Funny how people are skeptical about NASA but completely ignore Roscosmos, ESA, JAXA and all the others.
I keep posting the same comment on flerf video's. It always gets deleted in 1 minute.
Roscosmos/CCP basicly debunks that the moonlanding has been faked, so they just ignore it.
The Russians were also the first in space, the first manned flight, first (unmanned) orbit around the moon, first in orbit around mars, first landed on Venus (project Venera).
So they did alot of things before Nasa but they would lie about a faked moonlanding?
I often ask them about the other space agencies. Mostly that question is simply ignored, but some of them really have claimed that _all_ space agencies worldwide are _all_ part of the exact same conspiracy. Never mind stuff like the cold war. :D
"Her hair looks fake!!"
But lets ignore her floating necklace😂
Lets ignore the CGI and Gallon of HAir Gel you mean...lololol.....pure foolishness, wake up silly
@@GreatNewsVideo any proove for the cgi? I mean actual proove? Not just "nah ah" and "wake up silly"
But analysing ORIGINAL footage with a cgi program or find the code that was used for it...
Oh and gel in a necklace? 🤣
@@jasmijnariel if you dont have enough common sense and awareness of reality to realize fakery when you see it then no proof will suffice...otherwise YES there are loads of videos that show impossible things happening.
@@GreatNewsVideoI feel sorry for ppl like you. Your willfully ignorant or you just lie to yourself to make yourself feel better. It’s sad
It is impossibe to convince a stupid person, let the trolls be trolls @@jasmijnariel
NASA: *experiences one slight glitch in a video feed spanning 254 miles in to space aboard a space station moving at nearly 18,000mph...
36 year old man with a net worth of $17,000, driving a 2000 Cavalier, living in a studio apartment in a dump: "Hah! Clearly they are faking it!"
And cell phones drop signal in the country lol. These people are not so smart are they?
Having more money than someone doesn't mean you are authentic and correct. I would trust the low wage networth $17,000 ORDINARY NORMAL PERSON over the corrupt government funded NASA Freemason a44holes anyday. I owned a Chevy Cavalier, beautiful car, get off your high horse.
Thanks for showing and explaning, but I'm still not convinced that the dog is real.
Dog is real.
Dave is not.
@@lidbass Dave is puppet for dog
Canine Generated Image 😉
@@DaveMcKeegan 😁👍
I can already hear Oakley shouting every vulgarity he knows after this, lol
Great video.
I thought earth is for real flat, but after watching your videos i can sleep well tonight knowing earth is not flat.
You're scared of reality...you need to be told a a fairytale so that you can sleep..you said it yourself. I bet you haven't even watched any decent F.E videos I.E 200 proofs
Actually they could have shot this on a zero g plane, just that that plane *free fall* would have to last *90 minutes* continuously and seamless
Being fairly technical, that was shot in a vehicle that's constantly in free fall, and constantly missing the Earth. 😂
@@rafaelmarangoni Almost as if it's an orbit or something... hmmm!
So I am doing something related to conspiracy theories as a projects. I learnt that one of the reasons a conspiracy theorist stays like that is because of social pressure where they have put so much into making themselves and other happy inbthat circle that they dont want to be exiled from the group.
Correct.
nothing to do with science or reality.. It is a mental, social, psychological issue.
It would rather be more the opposite. People who are afraid of social pressure do not want to questions themselves or their perceptions because if the majority (the Mass) thinks like that, it is necessarily true while it's not necessarily the case. PS : I'm not a flat-earther.
It's not because many are wrong that they are right.
Coluche
I don't understand the need to cherry pick a few frames and fill the blanks with complete nonsense when the full uncut 20 minute video is available to anyone. 🤷♀
Gotta cherry pick to flerf. It’s a requirement.
We don't have to send flat earthers to space to prove them wrong. A community college photography class will suffice.
I still don't get what the point of the whole Globe conspiracy would be? Seems like a lot of effort and expense to fool geography teachers
It's usually to hide God, or the infinite lands and resources beyond the Ice Wall.
The government does this to hide God (or something like that). So an all knowing being that created everything, can't even create a wall for itself to hide behind it?
Not really a good god then is he/she/it then.
As always, the "explanation" they try to offer is far more complicated than just doing it for real.
No. It does not cost as much to fake it or take as much technology smh. So do you think making the movie Interstellar was more complicated than going to the moon? lmao
@mikeknight713 going to the moon? 😂😂😂 you were in the line for the jabs right?
The amount of love the dog gets in every video is heart warming.
Yeah, but the amount of shedding on Dave's shirt is not... 😄
@@Calango741shut up
If I am ever graced with the opportunity to visit and inhabit the ISS, I would like to see if I could take with me the LEGO Ideas ISS set to assemble on a live stream.
Then I could ask Flerfers how would that footage be fake when there are 864 LEGO pieces floating about in whatever trajectory they were moving upon opening the bags that contained them.
Of course the real entertainment value would be in seeing me chase after these pieces in a Zero G environment.
Send a message to Elon Musk. Sounds like a pretty cool idea. Never hurts to ask. I'd personally donate to fund even the most staunch FE to send up in space and someone film his face as he's seeing our beautiful planet.
I'd donate to send you up with your idea even. I'm all for showing proof and I know millions would also support. This has to stop its screwing up the future for our Grandkids.
@@TheUnderCoverMother2020 I don't have an X account, so that might be tough lol
But that would be entertaining as well.
@@TheUnderCoverMother2020 That would be quite the donation. The funny thing is, LEGO has once used a high atmosphere balloon and broadcasted the entire journey of a bunch of Classic Space Minifigs being sent to near space before eventually landing to the Earth. TH-cam doesn't like links, but I think it's somewhere on LEGO's official TH-cam channel. Though FE's will likely just claim its CGI.
Necklace. NECKLACE! A FREAKING NECKLACE just floating around, but YEEEEEAH harness and hair blah-blah-blah. Are people just selectively blind or something?
Necklace is a simple cg
Technically, it IS a zero-G plane. Just in orbit. Constantly falling.
Globe confirmed 💯🌎
I think a big problem is that people on both sides do not want to see evidence that validates the other side. They want to be able to debunk whatever proofs the other sIde presents. This causes a lot of vindictive hateful back and forth, with no one getting anything from it except frustration and hate for the other guy.
I only want the truth. I want to have the viewpoint that is supported by the truth. I have tried to be remain civil with people but have found unless I agree with their exact position they only have insults and vitriol to offer me.
_I think a big problem is that people on both sides do not want to see evidence that validates the other side._
That is incorrect. People who accept that the Moon landings are real _have_ seen the evidence that allegedly validates the other side, picked it apart, and realize it for what it was.
_They want to be able to debunk whatever proofs the other side presents._
Doesn't this sentence directly contradict your previous sentence, Jessie?
@@Jan_Strzelecki Spoken truly as a person who is doing exactly what I said. That is how you see it and I might even agree with your position, but that is not how someone who disagrees with you sees it.
If someone had a really credible piece of evidence to present to you to show you the moon landings were faked, you most certainly would NOT be excited to see it and approach it with a positive attitude. You would go in with a completely dismissive attitude about it.
I've seen this in all different types of debates throughout my 50 years of life. It is a very rare thing indeed for someone to look at an opposing argument with anything but disapproval even before hearing it. Of course you'll say this isn't the case, lol. You and every other swinging dick are neutral, have a positive attitude and are open minded when it comes to opposing views you disdain! Yea, fucking right. 🙄
@@Jan_Strzelecki you are exactly the kind of asshole that I'm talking about. Of course you see it that way because you assume you're right about everything. More than anything else you should work on not being such a loathsome prick.
@@Jan_Strzeleckiout of sight, out of mind.
@@jessielakes8118 I'm sorry, but I still don't understand. Your second sentence says that people "on both sides" want to be able to debunk evidence presented by other side, but your first sentence says that they don't want to see it.
Those cannot both be true at the same time.
A noble attempt, Dave, but we both know it's not going to convince hoax believers.
Still, it's nice to have it, to show _other_ people how hoax believers are cherry picking their evidence and ignore everything that contradicts it 👍
I am impressed with this rebuttal. It raises a lot of really interesting questions. I really am interested in the response to this video.
@@ryanqvincent144 Questions regarding the mental incompetence of flattards, or about the content of Dave's presentation?
So, when she flips upside down, 1st time, her necklace falls DOWN quickly... then, where her hair is up every where else, it keeps that odd "upness" while she's also upside down... it doesn't shift at all...
Things shift when something makes them shift. They don't do that on their own.
Holyyy fuck. You seriously watched allll of this video, where he explains in perfect detail every little possible thing that makes it IMPOSSIBLE that this video is fake, and you still ask a question like that? Oh my GOD you are dense.
I agree it’s bizarre
"Once and for all" ? Love the optimism Dave.
Well, I think you are spot on. that was a VERY through smack down.
I like how you just un-picked their cherries by pulling out the entire broadcast
After Sandra takes out the hairtie she runs her fingers through her hair with ease. The amount of hairspray needed to keep the hair in that position on earth would not let you run your fingers through your hair like that. Ignorance, pure ignorance.
well, is photoshped, its has to
@@germanhernandezm.7435 and? We know what he said but he didnt say they were FAKE did he?
If I photoshopped a picture of YOU does that mean YOU are fake?
Use your damn brain!
Very WRONG I've used hairspray that will keep my hair in ANY position, and I can freely run my hands through it. It's EXPENSIVE.
@@reinerhoch1357its fake
@@ruukibane301 omg the typical, you SAYING its fake is neither an argument nor does your word have any meaning. I can care less what you say, proof it or stfu!