Debunking Flat Earther's faked ISS
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Flat Earthers claim the footage from the ISS is just CGI, green screens & wires ... time to debunk their examples
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How you know the video not recorded to make it seem its live?
The woman astroliars hair is stupid.
I'll ask you to stop mocking indigenous peoples, isolated tribes, and the like (e.g. the North Sentinalese, lost South American tribes). We need diversity of thought in this world. Global communications have been making extinct many culture and practices, and we are fast becoming an indistinguishable blob. What a terrible loss of human diversity! STOP MOCKING THESE PEOPLE! Leave them be. If they want to think the earth is flat, so be it. Now, as for so-called "Flat Earthers" in the developed world, they are the equivalent of "Trekkie's." No one at a Las Vegas Star Trek convention believes the people walking around in costumes are real Klingons or Romulins. It's entertainment! They have conventions, merch, video games, clubs, etc. Well, the same is true for the developed world "Flat Earthers." Its entertainment! They're having fun. And for your information, intellectual clergy were among the FIRST people to study astronomy and postulate a sun-centered solar system, spherical earth. Yes, there were some isolated cases where the Church powers were abused by bad actors (just ask Galileo!), but it is simply not true that the Christian Faith preaches to this day that the earth is flat...or ever. SIMPLY NOT TRUE! That is part of the historical record. So your mockery of Christianity is historically inaccurate. At best you can snicker at them for being goofy like people snicker at the Trekkies, if that makes you feel superior. But STOP mocking indigenous peoples and spreading lies about the role of the Church in science.
@triple boostard Because we aren't dumb.
@@tripleboostard2022 That would be on you to demonstrate.
Good luck.
For my entire life I'll never be able to understand why these people think that NASA will somehow spend billions of dollars on CGI, actors, editors, keeping the conspiracy a secret, etc. But then they'll just make mistakes that would make a 9th grader taking an introductory class cringe.
It's dunning Kruger to its max. Lmao. They are experts in computer graphics now...trust me, they did 10 to 20 minutes of "research" where someone told them what to believe on a video one time.
And why such tremendous efforts just to fool a small group of people?
@@CarinaPrimaBallerina because they wanna feel special and they are the small minority that isnt brainwashed by the government yet.. They openly say that aswell.
Cos it's all about lying for the baby jesus and nothing whatsoever about making a case for alternative science.
@@MrJiffytiffy, I think you are giving flerfs way too much credit! They definitely don’t spend 10-20 minutes “researching”. They simply hear another uneducated numpty say something really silly and then claim it as fact. Research to them is hearing something, repeating it as fact(if.. and only if it agrees with their preselected conclusion), being debunked thoroughly with little to no effort, and nu-uhing anything they don’t like.
I love how NASA (or whoever is "faking" space being a thing) are both so inept at special effects that they left in an obvious segment of the actor fading away but also so incredibly good that they can perfectly hide a wire trapeze system for little backflip stunts while live on air
What about the mathematical proof that the earth is round? Where’s your mathematical evidence that it’s flat? How long have you been a scientist? How long have you studied the earth?
@@wildonstokes huh?
@@utes5532 how long have you studied space? You said nasa is lying so how long have you been studying space?
@@wildonstokes Reread that comment a couple times buddy, he didn't say NASA is lying.
@@kirkkerman he did by basically saying they’re faking the space landing dummy
Imagine having never seen an MP4 compression error before and thinking you’ve discovered something earth-shattering
It's actually INTRAFRAME and such. Compression but not the likes you find in DVD but Livestreams.
Captain D... explains it well
@@FizzleFX the differences between DVD and livestreams tend to be the resolution and amount of compression. Although for livestreams that is mostly reliant on your bandwidth because both can be tailored to the client's capability.
Imagine being this gullible.
I'll never understand how people can think its fake, when you can literally see it with your own eyes some nights when it passes over.
There will always be someone who believes in some ridiculous things, we are lucky to have as much intelligent people as we do.
LOLOL....How do you ignore the guy in the USMC shirt pulling on the string???LOLOL....Wow, I didnt realize Dave McKeegan was such a dunce
@@philindeblanc LOLOL....How did NASA ignore the guy in the USMC shirt pulling on the string???LOLOL....Wow, I didnt realize NASA was such a dunce
@@2nd3rd1st NASA we know is full of BS and fakery, but this POS Dave is taking it to next level gaslighting and completely ignoring material people have sent him. He should be punished.
Hell, I even took a picture of it!
Deniers on Monday: "the video is grainy so it's faked"
Deniers on Tuesday: "the video is too clear so it's faked"
Deniers on Friday: “the video exists, so it’s faked.”
Deniers on wednesday: "thousands of alien ships are flying around the ISS, but I don't see anything
Deniers on Thursday: the video is fake because shadows exist
THE VIDEO IS RAPPING ME !!!
In that time scale (one day) NASA "earned" $700million.
I love how they focus on 5 seconds of footage, but will happily ignore the 10,000 hours of ISS footage that debunks their little ‘theory.’
Oh yeah. Especially all those ISS tours, which are usually done in one long uninterrupted take, taking us across the _entire_ station.
Cherry-picking
You don’t even need all that. Just watch Chris Hadfield sing “Space Odyssey”.
Finished watching? Good, it’s a great video. Now, watch it again but look at the watch on his left wrist.
EDIT: Just for the record, not a Flat Earther. I didn't realize his watch jangling around in whatever direction it pleases, unlike anything having to deal with gravity ever could, was something Flerfs would think proves their argument. Apologies for the confusion. The Earth is round.
@@pretzelbomb6105 no.
@@Jan_Strzelecki such a video does not exist.
That MP4 artifact is common on digital TV during storms. If you drop one of the keyframes that encodes a scene-change, you see the new scene animated using the pixels from the last scene, which can look creepy when someone's face morphs into a car etc.
There is even a software to remove keyframes from video, so everything that is left are the diff data. It is obviously very "LSD-like".
Saw a baseball game once and the video tore and glitched like that. Most impressive slide into home plate/rainbow madness/stands I've ever seen. Only lasted a second but it was a full acid trip as it happened!🤣
@@jansvanda Messing with videos in that way is a whole trend right now that's gotten big enough to make it to tiktok. People use those blurry compression smears to add effect or just morph between shots as a joke
This has always stumped me. This idea that they're all done with CGI, but then they miss these "glitches" in their work, it's absofreakinglutely absurd!
Its on purpose to muddy the waters. They want this argument for more division. They know most will never accept being fooled. They know you better than you know yourself bud. Dont forget your boosters 😂
Yeah. If it was cgi, it would mean they created the glitches sort of on purpose in the first place. Which i think they did, so they could laugh about what Flat earthers would make of it.
I mean you literally can find the answer in comments here. Half of y’all saying what you did. The other half is saying “with thousands of hours of evidence how can it be denied” lol
No one said they’re ALL done with ALL CGIA BTW
Anyways *with thousands of hours of evidence* it would only be a matter of time till human error leads to something only a cOnSpIrAcy TheOrIsT would catch 🤔
Not only that, their 'model of FE' does not allow them to go beyond their dome, so they are stinking jealous that they did not come up with a solution before they showed their 'model'. So they try to drag everything down, it is sickening.
The conspiracy can only be as smart as the idiot uncovering it.
It all comes down to "it's easy to see a conspiracy in everything if you have no idea how anything works".
@@niktes3337 i shouldn't even bother but you don't know what research means. How many studies have you actually conducted? Metastudies? Can you accurately assess the value of a research paper, do you check the institute behind the paper for biases, the people involved as well? Because that's research. Just looking at things and making statements is the opposite of that. I work in a university and I'm a researcher, it's part of my job and of my hobbies so yes; I have done my research.
That’s true but it’s also easy to see untruths when you’ve been told your entire life that it is true.
Very well put
we dont need to know eveithing to be able to watch cables pulling shirts ,.. do you thing we are turds
@germanhernandezm.7435 I think that you're following the wrong people to the wrong conclusions if you don't believe in space or the ISS. There is plenty wrong with the world, a lot of people have a lot more power and money than they should have but it's not some shadowy cabal inventing space as a lie, it's people openly running enormous corporations that you should be mad at.
Conspiracy theorists have got to be the only people who get happy when they see video compression.
Yay! Artifacts!
If you do a search for "Datamoshing," you'll find there's a pretty robust community out there that has turned these artifacts into an artform.
Video artifacts are the only facts these ridiculous flat-earth buffoons seem to care about.
MPEG compression, JPG artefacts, lens flares, cheap cameras, etc. Proof of conspiracies seems to always be found in low-quality footage that's ambiguous to interpret.
also seem to be correct,.... EVERY TIME loll.... so,.. whos the dumb ones again? remember before they admitted about aliens,... and all the jokes made,... fa,ilies ruined,.. then come out and say yeeea they here loll... nit wits man.
I have been a professional film and television visual effects artist for 23 years with specific expertise on productions set in space. I love it when I inform flat earthers of this, and they still lecture me about how I’m wrong about my own veteran field of work.
So you admit that your field of expertise is special effects on productions "set in space" ... BUSTED!!!
There you have it folks, one of the guys who works on the fake videos and is responsible for the sloppy work!!!
You must be paid quite handsomely to maintain the cover-up and the lies 😏
I'm just goofing around. 😁🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm an audio engineer and I specialize in film and TV post-production.
Sound is a Lot easier to fake than video because the brain can be fooled with sounds that are "close enough" to the actual sound while actually being something completely different 😉
@@vladpadowicz5946 oh jeez, that was a very convincing flat earther impression!
@@vladpadowicz5946 phew! I almost thought you were a flerf for a second
yeah, same happend to me when i tell them im spiderman
It doesnt matter what your expertise or title is if all you are going to do with it is deceive people.
The glitchy astronauts thing made me laugh so hard when he claimed it was a green screen problem. It goes to show guy doesn't know shit of what he's talking about. The moment the artifacts began i had flashbacks of my old pc trying to master a video without messing up multiple seconds of it with these exact type of artifact.
anyone who regularly watches streamers or does zoom meetings has seen those glitches hundreds of times.
Lol artifacts.
@@GreatNewsVideo lmao now i've imagined indiana jones with a video glitch in hands running lmao
I love how stuff like this actually proves that it’s not CGI, because no respectable CGI artist (that „bloated“ budget has to go somewhere if space is fake) would leave such a glaring error…
In the minds of a flat earther...
"Guys what about this sh*tty CGI glitch in the end?
- Nah leave it bro they're dumb and nobody's gonna understand it's CGI
- Oh okay. And for that snake tongue on our logo...?
- Yeah they're so dumb we have to give hints about our lies
- To destroy our millenia-long conspiracy.
- Yeah!"
And what's worse is that CGI artist could never put this on their resume. Why would they take the job? If I did such convincing CGI that I fooled 2 generations of people into thinking space was real I'd really want to put that on a resume.
Yup, this is why we all know that none of this is about the actual conspiracy its about these guys feeling special and better than everyone. NASA which apparently has a unlimited budget for CGI and is full of smart people makes all of these super noticeable mistakes and only these internet geniuses can detect them and put the pieces together.
@@LiperioHK And will also choose an acronym that means "to deceive" so that no one will know we want to deceive them.
@@zman245 It’s a bit like the “Paul McCartney is really dead” conspiracy theory, yet there are supposedly hundreds of careless “ clues”…
Always amazes me that they will happily accept "special effects problems" but dismiss out of hand the possibility of actual video problems.
Always amazes me that they will happily accept "special effects problems" but dismiss out of hand the possibility of actual video fakery.
@@maxlevel1489 maybe they're faking the special effect problems
@@maxlevel1489 dismissed because of lack of evidence. just like your brain.
Its because it doesn't fit into their rabbit hole world view that the government, big business, "someone", is trying to control them, when what is actually happening is that a few small minded but persuasive people are playing on their fears to cause disruption in any way they can using people who are gullible. But the darker side to this is people convincing others that their democracy is in danger from "others" when it is actually in danger from the people doing the convincing......sound familiar? If people believe in a flat earth they are most of the way down the hole to start with. And don't forget many of these convincers are making a very lucrative living convincing the gullible.
they went to the moon in the 60's but cant stop mistakes in this day and age of tech. With almost 70 million a day paycheck i could do better
I saw the ISS through my friend’s telescope that tracks objects. I could make out the panels etc. and for the flerfs, I looked into the front of the telescope to make sure NASA didn’t put a tiny model of it in there.
Seeing something in the sky doesn’t prove that people are orbiting the earth at 17000 mph
@@chainlink2348yeah, but it's at least real ! That's the entire point ! You can eaven open up Newtonian telescopes to see how empty they are. Infact, Newtonian telescopes have a primar parabolic mirror, a secondary mirror and a lens.
@@chainlink2348 Yes it does.
So what, there is something out there.....doesnt make these video they put out any less fake.
I hate to break it to you, but it's not fake. You're just dumb@@GreatNewsVideo
As someone who works in animation, and video. The idea that these 'mistakes' with the 'CGI' would not be noticed when making a video that is lying to the entire world is totally insane. We have better quality control in my work for videos with far less viewers and not trying to deceive people. Its simply that when we are used to super polished hollywood effects when we see things in reality the can appear to look cheap / less real than we expect. The 'mistakes' are always easily explained.
Thats really cool what kind of videos do you work on? I've only ever met a handful of people who work on or with computers it's pretty rare where I'm from
Correct
When a flat earther says something is something without a shadow of a doubt, than that is wrong without a shadow of a doubt.
They’re so paranoid yet so quick to believe the first thing they see without thinking any further.
No wonder it’s such a dangerous mindset
We all could be rich if flat earthers starts claiming they know anything about stocks and tell which to not buy, which 100% the ones we should buy.
Speaking of shadows th-cam.com/video/KdauBLH4z0M/w-d-xo.html
And they may in fact, be doubting a shadow
I guess this should be Toon's law of flerfers #13, or something like that. If it isn't already a Toon's law
The weird warping is not just compression, it's keyframe data corruption, it happened a lot on video stored on CDs that get physically damaged and it also happens on livestreams that have variable connection stability which is specially the case of live video from the ISS that needs to constantly reroute and resync as the station goes around the planet a bunch of times a day having to jump between stream points all around the globe to keep a live stream connected... It's an incredible feat of technology that they can even have a live video feed, and that corruption happens when some of the data is lost and the software putting the feed together as it jumps from receiving point to point around the globe misses part of the context the fresh data is supposed to be updating. You were very close though, the partial update with new info while missing the appropriate keyframe data it's supposed to be updating over is what produces this error, but it's not simple a compression error.
If anything, that warp error shows that the livestream is not a regular stable connection down on the surface.
Not to mention the fact that the increased radiation caused by being in space with no ozone layer corrupts the computer data much faster, so most technology on the ISS is either very old and built to last with cosmic rays in mind, or is broken due to the data corruption caused
" keyframe data corruption" is also known as "evidence of fakery". Why NASA would choose to use low grade quality video is beyond me.
@@beckydoesit9331 If they were faking it, they wouldn't use it.
If they were, say, recording a live interview, they would use the genuine video of the astronauts in the ISS, no matter if the video is slightly corrupted or not.
The very fact that it "Looks fake! Those idiots at NASA use the WORST fakery!" Means they aren't faking it, because for an association that gets allocated billions every year, that sure is a shoddy 'cover up' of their 'editing'.
Saying it's fake is just a denial of the fact that A: They are in space, and B: that the earth is not some ridiculous disk.
@becky doesit Refer to the comment above. And with data being not that easy to transfer there are more important things to send that that.
The same thing happens with satellite and cable TV. When you drop packets of video, the computer (your tuner box for TV) will attempt to rebuild the information based on what it does have. Since the video is an ever changing data stream this results in the computer lagging behind the incoming data. That lag is what leads to the distortion.
It's hardly surprising they don't (and won't) understand how zero-G works, when they can't even understand how wires, CGI, greenscreen, clothing, reflections, lighting and basic physics work.
They don't actually believe that is Earth is flat - they just want attention.
love how it's only ever 2-3 frames of an entire stream being transmitted in the low kbps that people think can be proof of anything
Guess there are many hours of footage that don’t show these artifacts.
However when the flerfies present photographic evidence that we “see to far”, their images are not seldom compressed, cropped, or taken under heavy atmospheric condition with loads of refraction.
Yea, those "low kbps" moments showing actual wire harnesses, it all "video compression".
@@maxlevel1489 common flerfer L:
choosing the most convoluted explanation out of all possible explanations
@@maxlevel1489 Since no video has yet shown "actual wire harnesses" on the ISS your comment was pointless.
@@maxlevel1489 you know that, of all conspiracy theories, you chose the absolute dumbest, right? How do you remember to breathe?
You'd think after video calls become common nowadays, especially after all the lockdowns, people would be used to compression artifacts during live streams already but somehow flerfs think it's some kind CGi glitch LOL...
My friend sits in his office during his video chat with me but its all blurry and jittery behind him. I reckon he's really on a space ship in orbit and his home is just fake CGI on a green screen. What a damn scammer eh?
@@ShizukuSeiji your friend is a paid actor...lol 😂
But Adam has no friends to do video calls with.
Incidental, but I cannot stop reading "Flerf" as "FLat Exclusionary Radical Feminist".
This is the second time I've seen a claim of "green screen" of an object in front of a person's body. In both these cases, the body was the background, not a green background.
nono you misunderstand. the astronauts clothes are fake too. they're actually in all green paint, so even the clothes can be CG'd live on them. i mean, obviously. because thats a totally reasonable way to fake a livestream.
thank you for such a well thought out, easy to understand explanation. your efforts are appreciated and needed!
I love how sometimes they claim it's green screen, some times it's augmented reality and other times practical effects. Whatever could conveniently be used as evidence for a fake video
I love how some claim that the astronauts are just inside one of those planes that simulates zero-g by climbing really high and then diving really fast. Which that dive usually lasts less than a minute, so not really accounting for the streams that go on for much, much longer
@@RazgrizXMG0079 while also destroying their claim that gravity doesn't exist.
@@RazgrizXMG0079 Interesting to me is the fact those zero-g aircraft follow a parabolic flight path, in three parts. The first part of each parabola is a rapid climb from level flight starting at ~350 KIAS (briefly achieving 38-47 degrees 'nose-up' angle/+1.8g) from ~7000m altitude. The second part includes the aircraft slowing down and levelling off as it approaches a peak altitude of ~9500m.. The aircraft then noses over and dives (at a nose-down angle of 38-47 degree/-1.8g max) to complete the third part of the manoeuvre. Each climb and dive section last ~20-25 seconds. The middle portion of the manoeuvre, the zero-g or more accurately the micro-g part, lasts about 25-30+ seconds. Flerfs probably can't understand how ANY of that works!
@@Jabbatic If you run the numbers you can work out the theoretical limits and I think I worked out that they fly pretty close, with a surprisingly small safety margin. I think they only have about another 20 seconds before the parabola would require them to dive past the speed limit of the aircraft. But before that (something like 35 seconds of diving at freefall speed), you pass the point where you're diving so fast and are so close to the ground, that the pull-up maneuver would be pushing the g-limit of the aircraft.
So yeah, there are plenty of unedited videos where the wings would be coming off a zero-g plane well before the end.
And then at around 50-60 seconds, the plane would suddenly become a hole in the ground.
Sometimes it's underwater too haha
As someone who works with digital media, I knew right away what those clips showed. MPEG compression over RF transmission will show one full frame, followed by any number of partial change frames, as perfectly described in the video.
What was left out of this conversation is how insanely difficult it is to edit such video feeds. Even editing this after the fact is a pain in the ass. Certainly not remotely possible on a live feed.
Live digital video is not built to properly correct errors, it simply tries to make the best of the error and move on to the next good frame. It’s “best effort” programming, since it’s more important to capture real-time flow than to stop every time an error appears and request resending of data. In stream analysis, even one bad packet of data can corrupt multiple MPEG frames, and losing data on the master frame means a few seconds of onscreen artifacts until the next master frame comes through.
This isn’t new stuff, we worked on this back in the early media distribution days of the mid 90’s. It’s not even something hard to learn if you are in the media business. Just goes to show how willfully ignorant flerfers can be.
Yep. Watch videos from when TH-cam started, or someone doing a videoconference from back in the day before current cameras and high speed internet connections were a thing, and you'd see glitches like that all the freaking time.
Thx for the details 👍
to me it just looks exactly like my tv did back when cable sattelite was a thing as a kid. During a rainstorm one bad frame would ruin multiple until it fixed itself. If it can happen in a rainstorm im not surprised it happens when transmitting a signal from orbit live
"Live digital video is not built to properly correct errors" that is why the various versions of MPEG were created as and are a defined as, a "lossy" compression system. They are designed to trade off accuracy for lower data use. For these tasks, that is a good trade-off. And as the versions of MPEG have been released and adopted, the result has been a steady improvement. Although that improvement has also demanded higher processing power at both ends.
If you want to *correct* transmission errors, like the transmissions to and from the Voyager Spacecraft, the ECC data in each data packet is many times the size of the data field. This is great for off-line feeds, but terrible for live feeds.
Anyone who had cable TV in the late 90s will immediately recognize the compression artifacts in these videos. I guess flat Earthers don’t remember the pre-TH-cam days of streaming video over RealNetworks.
My question is why in the world would NASA not correct such grievous errors in this video, and many others, if they are trying so hard to hide the shape of the earth???
That's going down the rabbit hole once u learn ancient cosmology or flat earth they know u would expose them and never would have to answer to them ever again
@@FlatEarth-q1f Every time we measure Earth's surface, we find that it is not flat, but curved. This exposes you.
@@h.dejong2531 y yall keep saying we when ur azz never did any measurement go live outside and show Im tired of hearing all talk with no evidence if u can't present real proof u are a fraud wannabe and a person that doesn't know anything
@@h.dejong2531 Im ready so r u going to go live and show me plus how many miles do I need to go to c curvature
@@h.dejong2531 what r u waiting on
Its funny how they seem to forget that such a ting as video compression and artifacts is a thing when they spot their "evidence".
I love how they alway focus on one split second when something "appears" to show they are faking everything, yet completely ignore the other hundreds or thousands of footage that can not be explained with wires, pools or cgi. Not to mention that using a harness does not fully immitate microgravity. Gravity still affects everything on and around anyone wearing the harness, and hair and clothes do not just float around. The only way microgravity can even be imitated is under water, which would make talking a bit difficult...
Making watches and necklaces flapp around is another thing wires can’t do.
@@jagheterbanan If I ever get the chance to visit and stay at the ISS, I might try to bring my LEGO set of the ISS and see if it's possible to assemble the set in Zero G. You can't have wires attached to every single piece lol
You can't be an anti-science "truther" without cherry-picking.
I've seen somebody zoom in on about 10x10 pixels of an apollo photograph and claim he could see Stanley Kubrick. Absolutely 100% serious too.
He believed that instead of being behind the camera, Stanley hid behind a rock in the distance, so that he was almost visible in a photo. 5 minutes before that, he was claiming that it was a painted backdrop, so there was no distance for Stanley to hide in.
These people will literally believe anything, even if it contradicts something else they believe, so long as it's anti-establishment.
Heck, it's as simple as looking at anyone's face. Or did NASA go out of their way to only find actors who constantly look like they're leaning forward?
@@pjalne Well NASA's not the only one sending astronauts to the ISS. If it was a hoax, then it would be a collaborative hoax with several Space agencies in Russia, Europe, etc. Which seems extremely unlikely, and since all the "evidence" for a hoax could be easily explained away, I think Flat Earthers are going to need to step up their game lol
The one were the astronaut fades out is 100% a fade transition. SciMan Dan did a video on this claim and the original video is a compilation video the astronaut made of him moving around the ISS. In the whole clip he goes through the door and instantaneously shoots back out of it going the other way which is just not possible to physically do. So there was a fade transition between him entering the door and exiting the door. Parts of the footage in the original video are sped up as well. It is a heavily edited video BUT, to be clear, just because something is edited does not mean it is fake. It was just edited to keep it interesting and short.
Wasn't he in a gorilla suit that he's taken aboard for a bit of a prank? Yeah, of course it's edited so there wasn't 5 minutes of dead air while he changed into the ape suit. Flat Earthers can never tell the truth.
@@synthetic240 idk if it was this clip but that ape suit prank was gold.
You mean a conspiracy theorist was dishonestly cherrypicking?
[Shocked pikachu meme]
Hard to beLIEve how closed minded we all once were.
You were just showed na$a faking iss footage. But instead of amitting you're wrong?
You make excuses and defend them, sad.
trying using common sense instead of just beLIEve what everybody else thinks must be "the truth".
@max level right back at you.
Maybe try thinking instead of deciding to believe literally any nonsense, so long as it's anti-nasa
I've seen this exact effect with cable tv. The characters (parts that are moving) start to drop out while the background scenery stays in place.
Wouldnt it be CHEAPER to have an ACTUAL space program, than to have 100 million or so people worldwide paid to be in what amounts to a 60-year movie series, and keep it black through 3 generations? Or do they not believe the technology to go into space exists at all?
100 million or so people? Lol dumb. All you need is only a few people
@@LukeRoxALotthere’s 18000 people currently employed by NASA. Then we have all of the pilots (millions) then we need all of the other government space agencies, then all of the private space launch companies, then all of the amateur rocketry enthusiasts, then all teachers, then all of the satellite companies, then all of the cell phone companies… etc. You get the point. This would be a global conspiracy that easily has millions of people involved. And for what purpose, to lie about the world being a sphere? Or going to the moon? Not sure what delusion you subscribe to. There’s nothing to gain from doing this. If the science existed otherwise that’s just what they would say. There’s no point to making an elaborate scheme that involves the studies of mathematics, astronomy, biology, geology, etc. all being fraudulent just for some pointless lie.
So as usual, these nefarious NASA guys are at the same time powerful enough to have such a massive conspiracy with thousands of people, but not even competent enough to have a video with good special effects.
These same conspiracy theorists will complain about how much money NASA receives- but never question why then NASA does not spend more on better video editors.
@@chameleon47 why should they?
Clearly it's enough to fool 99% of the population 🤣
@@Jehty_ I know, right? They've also got us 99% fooled that higher I.Q. scores means we are more intelligent, and that education about a subject somehow matters before one professes to be an expert about it.
@@chameleon47 LMAO NICE
One thing flat-earthers neglect : there are space agencies all over the world. Remember what the I in ISS stands for ? I'd like to know how many highly educated people worked on the James Webb telescope, how many companies in USA, Canada, Europe, joined their efforts to design, build and launch this incredible piece of technology.
Millions of competent astronomers in the world are waiting for its images. I once asked a flat-earther about the 23 astronauts who died in various space programs. He replied
"They are alive, somewhere in a witness protection program". No cure for stupidity.
Yay!!! LEO, the man that put the "STU" in "STUPID"
Tidy, Creaky!
And I thought that honour fell to Taffy 🤣
I could buy a screw making mega-factory just for the sole purpose of making loosely fitting screws, and I still wouldn't have a scratch on LEO.
Hahaha.... comment of the week!!!!
"I don't entirely know what's going on"
- LEO
Just because you don't understand why something is the way it is doesn't mean it's fake, that's what conspiracy theorists do, which these people are.
So, it's supposed to be CGI rendered _in real time_ with an error rate of less than 1%.
Impressive, if not actually physically _impossible._
They really have NO idea how good CGI is these days. If it was CGI none of these things would happen lol
Actually, Thanos's fingers were clipping
Unless it's done by today's Disney.
@@Perktube1 you have no clue about CGI, right?
@@i-deni-i5138 no, Thanos' fingers were obviously snapping.
not all donuts come out with holes
I find it ironic that Level Earth Observer has the same initials as Low Earth Orbit.
If only He'd go meet some hams in his region talking to a LEO satellite via ham radio.
It’s not ironic as he did it on purpose.
Its the same acronym for Lacking Evolution Organism.
I'm surprised by how much material these kinds of people make. You'd imagine thinking makes their heads hurt.
Imagine that you spent 10+ years training professionally to become an astronaut so that you could go on a 6 month-long expedition to the ISS where you conducted life changing scientific experiments, helping to propel the human race into the age of space colonisation, only to come back down to earth where you are confronted by some redneck mouth breather who thinks you were just acting in front of a green screen 🤦♂️
😂 no one has been there stop it
@TransitionedToAShark Prove that no ones been there.
@@sparehead8911You just gotta believe him, man. He is just correct, because he said so
I really respect your calm demeanor during these explanations.
So often, Flerfs try to get people flustered and then claim that the insults they receive "Prove their points".
You give them no room to make such claims and it makes your reasoning a lot harder to dismiss. Props
Flerfs are usually the ones who respond to questions with insults. Mainly because they have no answers.
Everyday, more globe believers are shocked to know that:
1. All earth images from space are fake.
2. No rocket has gone above 100 km in altitude.
3. Antarctica circumnavigation has never happened.
4. Satellites don't exist.
5. Flights never nose dive because of no curvature.
6. Flights between australia and south america never fly over Antarctica, instead it goes through northern part.
7. Moon landing is fake.
8. No 24 hour sun in Antarctica.
9. A huge difference in heat from the sun between noon and morning-evening.
10. Polar star trails are circular, but it should be straight lines or some other abstract shape if earth is flying at 800,000 kmph speed.
11. So-called space videos are from balloons using a fish eye lens camera and from 3D softwares.
12. Moon's night side is same as sky instead of black.
13. "A live telecast of rocket attached with a regular lens camera going up atleast 20,000 km in altitude or upto whole earth comes in a single frame" has never happened, no one even tried.
14. Go fast rocket hit the dome about 98 km.
15. During solar eclipse the alleged moon's shadow is about only 100 km wide and it moves from west to east , north-east to south-west and many directions.
16. Sometimes lunar eclipse occurs while the sun is still above the horizon.
17. Our eyes and senses tell that we are not moving and not spinning.
It won't stop them from calling him a shill. The Flat Earth community is a cult and, thus, shall be treated as such.
@@Isaac_Flat_Earth .
Try learning some very basic physics, and then you might not make yourself look such a gormless prat.
When an object leaves the surface of the Earth, it does not lose its momentum it had while on the surface.
Would you step off a train while it was travelling at 100mph? According to you, it would be perfectly safe because as soon as you left the train, you would immediately stop moving.
@@grahvis After you step out a moving train, the momentum will stop eventually, you won't keep running forever just because you stepped out of a moving train.
I think it's hilarious that they think NASA is using special effects to fake microphones and cables.
have you ever seen a real microphone? go try to buy one, and the UN military will stop you in accordance with the antarctic treaty.
@@mcstark2700 I thought it was the Jewish Masonic Nazi military enforcing the ice wall visiting restrictions . . .
@@mcstark2700 you have to be royalty and high up in the government to buy microphones with cables.
@@mcstark2700 I have a microphone connected to my PC, but I have to keep it hidden inside a dead cat in case the microphone police raid my study.
Faking the cables make sense.
If it was filmed on earth the cables would behave differently. So you would have to fake them to make it look real.
I love how Flat Earthers know absolutely nothing about how cameras and editing work, yet still nullify any evidence that disagrees with their opinion. When they finally get the budget to go to space themselves, I will be overjoyed to laugh in their faces as I claim their evidence is also "cgi".
.......I work in film special effects and the ISS footage is clearly faked. Its made up of Green screen sections - which are limited but can run a long time. Also there are Vomit Comet shots which actually simulate zero G but can only run for about 40 seconds and there are the wire shots which all make up the desired effect. Womens hair-sprayed standing hair is giveaway and also seeing blood rushing to head when flipping over on wires. Its all there if you are secure enough to look.
@@viclimited9081 why would you need to fake footage for the iss? I understand the moon landing, but why the iss? Not only are thousands of scientists responsible for keeping the cgi a secret, but multiple countries are responsible too. I’d rather argue about “why” it’s fake rather than “how” it’s fake.
I remember being completely convinced by Graham Hancock's books about mars and the supposed pyramids as a teenager. But later I learned that it's just like seeing shapes in the clouds, if you WANT to find 'evidence' to prove your idea, you will find it. The trick is to then try and find alternate explanations to debunk your own findings. This is the crucial step flat earthers never take, as they're too attached to their sensational conspiracy.
It's called 'pareidolia'!
I really can't wait for the moon missions to start. The Flerfs will go into melt down and release many videos "debunking" it all.. It's going to be glorious..
Maybe we could send them to the moon instead.
@@CameronHuff only give them fuel to get there not back tho
It won’t matter. Flat Earth and hoax beliefs like this are not about the truth but fulfilling some need in the believer. They will just move the goal post every time you corner them with reality.
I do think moon colonization etc will help reduce followers.
@@CameronHuff They will still think it is fake and try to prove it and die in the process...then others will think they were killed for knowing the truth.
You will be waiting another 2-3 generations if na$a even exist that long for them to show you more cgi that you will beLIEve.
Maybe your great great grand kids will see the na$a fakery one day?
This is the same exact problem that happens tobroadcast tv signals. The picture will "tile" (or pixelate) when the RF signal gets disturbed enough, that the electronic process has to resync to rebuild the picture. It looks exactly like the video footage you showed. 👍
Some interesting excuses, ...
LEO is the true pantomime of a logical thinker.
It's so easy to debunk his claims, because his claims are nothing more then 'hay look at this'.
Flerfs sure do love their priming at the beginning of their videos. 😅
Adam is desperately trying to appear significant, to the point that he has to lie about his occupation (he managed to debunk himself on several occasions with that one), plus he uses (or did use) sock accounts to make positive responses to LEO's comments - he caught himself out doing that by responding to a LEO comment whilst still signed in as LEO and not his alter-ego!
Well Adam (LEO) is a proven liar.
@@dogwalker666 They all are.
@@GeistView Gottalietoflurf!
I read LEO as Low Earth Orbit until I realized what it actually is
Within 2 seconds of seeing the clip of the supposed CGI space station not overlaid correctly I immediately knew what was going on but the amount of research and detail you put in your explanations is actually super interesting and educational.
Seriously. How you could see that and not realize it's shadow is just... sad.
@@xyex because they're envious they'll never amount to anything unless they put in effort, and they don't want to do that.
@@xyex Yep. When I saw the heavy glare on the window, my first thought was that the black is a portion with no glare -- such as a portion in shadow.
Except it's not a shadow, it's space.
@@chrisjacobsen1659 No. It's shadow.
6:40 is from an edited video. The cross-fade was from post-production and if the clip had continued for even a couple more frames, the astronaut would have immediately come out the door he just entered. They obvious cut out some dead air while he was in that side room.
In age of scientific enlightenment there are people that prefer to stay in dark claiming that lightbulb is a hoax.
Is that a quote, or did you come up with that?
Nice either way
@@st0rmforce Something I came up with.
The one with the fade transition is from a longer video which uses multiple transitions as it was edited to cut out dead air etc. It's not even a secret that it was edited, either.
Not only it is a pleasure to watch you (and your dog) debunking flat earthers, I also learn something new almost every time, for instance, video compression, thanks for that.
Can we also appreciate the fact that, if it was CGI, Flat Earthers don't even figure out that, with NASA budget, they would do a better job than Hollywood?
Everyday, more globe believers are shocked to know that:
1. All earth images from space are fake.
2. No rocket has gone above 100 km in altitude.
3. Antarctica circumnavigation has never happened.
4. Satellites don't exist.
5. Flights never nose dive because of no curvature.
6. Flights between australia and south america never fly over Antarctica, instead it goes through northern part.
7. Moon landing is fake.
8. No 24 hour sun in Antarctica.
9. A huge difference in heat from the sun between noon and morning-evening.
10. Polar star trails are circular, but it should be straight lines or some other abstract shape if earth is flying at 800,000 kmph speed.
11. So-called space videos are from balloons using a fish eye lens camera and from 3D softwares.
12. Moon's night side is same as sky instead of black.
13. "A live telecast of rocket attached with a regular lens camera going up atleast 20,000 km in altitude or upto whole earth comes in a single frame" has never happened, no one even tried.
14. Go fast rocket hit the dome about 98 km.
15. During solar eclipse the alleged moon's shadow is about only 100 km wide and it moves from west to east , north-east to south-west and many directions.
16. Sometimes lunar eclipse occurs while the sun is still above the horizon.
17. Our eyes and senses tell that we are not moving and not spinning.
It's kinda sad you just take Daves "video compression" explanation as 100% fact without researching anything.
Can you common sense?
you just admitted that it looks like very bad cgi, but still beLIEve it cause na$a would do a better job?
WHAT?
@@maxlevel1489 I never said it looked like bad CGI, I said, if it WAS, which is not at all, it WOULD look bad. I know enough about video compression and transmission bandwidth to know interferences can happen during live stream. I just learned something new about it, not about the whole concept.
And you, you believed that NASA would release that crap if it was a post-production job using CGI? "Ohhh there, we don't see the astronauts anymore, so it must be CGI"... If that is conclusion of FlatTards, it is because they did not do any research.
If by saying the Earth is Flat, you mean that you use common sense, come again.
@@maxlevel1489 you think we normal people watch ONE VIDEO then form our world basis on that?
no, that's YOU guys, you watch one FLERF video and now think you've "cracked" the code and made this assumption the center of your pitiful lives.
us normal people? we already know what's right and move on to more important things.
@@maxlevel1489 The ironyyyyyyyyyyy~~~~!!!!!!!!! If you had ANY common sense you wouldn't even writing that comment!
Good Catch on the iPad. On my first watch, I noticed what looked like a window or monitor in the background and thought it might be a reflection from another window since the reflection coincides with his movements.
Dave, great video. One thing that you fail to take into account is that these sceptics are used to their 4k+ high definition and expect it in ALL situations. The concept of a "low resolution" video is probably beyond their experience
Saying our government is smart enough to pull this off is mindboggling.
And not just one government, every government in the world would have to cooperate for this pointless conspiracy. I somehow doubt that would happen.
@@ida6950 pov: it is 2060 and it is actually true
$700 million a day buys a lot of smart people.
@@nospoon4799 $700 million a day would mean NASA's budget is $255 billion when in reality it is more than 10 times less than that. From where are you even getting that number?
and yet dumb enough to leave in obvious SFX errors in
Wow, I did a video call to my mum the other day. It did some crazy encoding errors. Turns out my mum is just a NASA plot.
Is she REALLY your mom?
@@jimsmith7212 oof hahaha
She is a alien
Your Mum must be CGI ??
That makes you also CGI
The funny part about the supposed "green screen mistake" is that people understand video data streams and compression algorithms so well that this kind of glitching is done on purpose for artistic reasons. Hell, it's so common that it has been given a name: datamoshing.
The level of desperation that flat earthers exhibit in order to try and believe their own lies and delusions is staggering. I genuinely feel pity for them.
Don't. Theyre not worth your pity
I particularly appreciated the one where there was an obvious reflection on a glass surface that Low Earth Oddity thought was a wire.
In fairness, without the full video, it is a bit of an odd one. I was expecting it to actually be a wire (of the charging variety, not the holding one up variety), until he mentioned the IPAD, and when I went back a little, I clocked there was a reflective surface over his shoulder.
I didn't believe it was a wire holding him up, but it did cause me pause. That's why these FLERFers only use edited video, so they can show only the bit that supports their case.
Can you explain this one away? /watch?v=V7Orn0erGyw
I didn't think it was that obvious, because it seemed unlikely that such a reflective item would be behind him.
Granted, if i had watched the original footage i would have seen him handling the ipad, and put it behind him - in which case you're 100% correct. But without that knowledge (as initially presented), my mind dismissed there being a highly reflective surface on the ISS. Didn't think it was a wire holding him up, but it kinda looked like something
@@maxlevel1489 I'm not watching the entire thing. Kindly provide a link to the time you want me to obliterate :)
@@maxlevel1489 "Can you explain this one away?"
Yes, its a 45 minute rambling conversation between two people neither of whom have a clue.
It took me exactly 12.5 seconds to debunk that 'visible wire' and realize that it's a reflection on the black screen behind him.
To just automatically assume its a wire (because it fits your narrative) and not look closely at it to finally realize (very obviously) that it's a reflection, is everything I need to know about the guy trying to claim that this clip is faked.
Nice try. Reality ONCE AGAIN prevails.
It is incredibly irritating as a VFX Artist, to see someone make these claims with absolutely no idea of how VFX shots are composited, and that his claim about the windows would be more work to get wrong than to get correct and just not a mistake you could even make in reality.
The glitching - well that is just video compression and the fact that video compression is lazy and still object are essentially just held in case like Dave says. So that is exactly what we would expect to see, and isn't proof of a green screen. Normally glitches in comp with green screens actually flash the screen rather than glitch like this.
The fade transition looks to be a time laps comp, also why would you ever fade them out given you would have just roto-ed the foreground object and had him pass behind it. So that's a BS claim as it just isn't how you would manage this kind of shot.
The cable - again, this just isn't a mistake that we would make. Not only is this a rookie error, but secondly hands are a primary focus in VFX as they are a pain to deal with like 90% of the time, so and error here is really unlikely. Also TBH, this would have been an easy practical effect to do rather than doing 3D work and modeling this movement. So again, wouldn't show up in this way as an error. Also all of the resolutions do seem to match, as does the lighting on the objects and I very much doubt they would if they had done this as a VFX shot.
Wires - this is a nuts claim from a VFX point of view, as removing wires is like Day 1, and it is extremely unlikely that something like wires would be left in (including clothing deformations) on something like this given they wouldn't be hiring kids straight out of college, they would have the best of the best doing this work. And what is this "I think they faded it out", we do t fade out wires 🤦♂️
@@Now_Time_For_Science If they had the best, the best people would be missing in the actual companies, so this would be suspicious. What they do is to get to orphanages in India, pick the most skilled geek orphans and teach them how to paint. Then they are locked into a dark cellar and paint all wires out without seeing anything but the building they are locked it. Well, this part is identical to conventional VFX work. I guess the differences really just comes down to them being orphans and not as good and therefore missing wires. And adding compression artifacts when streaming their results from Kalkutta or whatever.
The sooner commercial space travel is made, the better. So, the argument can finally shut up.
I happy that you do this. I'm not happy that it needs to be done. :)
The LEO shuttle layering claim, you did a great job of that debunk. One other point to remember and Don Pettit tweeted this just the other day. the windows on the shuttle and the ISS are often mutliple layers, so you can get many reflections of the various surfaces.
If it were CGI, they would've looked through it and cleaned it up. But because it's real and data related, it's nothing that can be done. Hilarious how they disprove themselves.
The fact that the video glitches can literally happen with any video due to compression. They are really that thick
I love the idea that NASA has to CGI/edit in microphones and microphone cables. I didn’t know their lack of funding was so bad they couldn’t afford a microphone!
I have a standing offer to any ISS denier to remote control my telescope and track ISS with my open source software. I'll wave in front of the telescope with it slightly defocused so they can see it's real and in realtime. So far, no takers.
Not necessarily an ISS denier but interested lol
So has any flat earther ever put forward a reason as to _why?_ Like, what does nasa get out of this?
that is a question i have had for years at this point
like the government has this master plan to convince people the earth is round, sinking billions of dollars into it because they thought it would be funny or smth
it's demonic, apparently. it teaches demonic beliefs against god because le government is indoctrinating children and "introducing them to misinformation" or some stupid shit.
i could watch your videos all day... i find them entertaining, calming, informative.
it's hilarious that they are anomaly hunting, but find rather simple "anomalies" that are effectively expected because it's an artifact, a common illusion, of just how the tech works ..
and wtf they don't even understand how green screens work in any way... they are for background not foreground objects over other foreground objects.
try to get flat earthers to explain how something extremely simple like AM radio works haha good luck with that
@@Fred_the_1996 yes there is so much, of that!
but you also have to remember that flat earthers are much more diverse nowadays. it used to be only a religious thing until relatively recently( as in decades). now it's a full pseudoscience conspiracy hybrid, with religious undertones. and many of them don't even know it's religious origin.
That greenscreen bit was hilarious. It must be VERY advanced green screen technology that NASA is keeping secret from us in Tartaria!
That basketball spinning ... Imagine spinning like that .. I'd have to see how fast I could spin stuff in space 🤣
Even modern marvel movies wouldn’t make CGI errors this badly
One of my favorite things to say to people that believe in things like flat earth…”I can explain it for you, but I can’t understand it for you”
Do u want to put that to the test i bet u will run
we don't need to put it to the test. IF someone genuinely believes the earth is flat then they are either simply believing someone they trust (i.e. taking them at their word) or its a lack of understanding. There is no other alternative. For those that actively seek to "prove" that the earth is flat then it has to be the latter. because they look at the evidence, and draw exactly the wrong conclusion from it. @@FlatEarth-q1f
Another issue with the wire idea is that they always claim the shirt sticking up is the wires fault, but if a human body was supported by their shirt and a wire, the other side of the shirt would end up looking extremely tight. In these shots the shirt is loose all around the body, implying that it isn’t supporting the weight of a human and is therefore not attached to a wire in Earth’s gravity.
There's no reasoning with flat earthers. If you literally took them to space theyd still deny it
These ISS deniers are so focused on proving that it's fake that they forget all common sense. It's actually quite hilarious.
Also, one more thing I saw the Corridor guys say when making the argument that the Boston Dynamics robots aren't CGI, is that when you see the astronauts doing the back flip their center of gravity is well, where it should be, around the bellybutton or so, and so, IF they were hanging from cables, it would have very different behaviour the pivot point. Just wanted to point that out.
Another thing is that the flerfs think that 2 little wires can hold up a person prefectly and let them do all kinds of flips and fly horizontally.
Then you look at the clips of Sandra Bullock
@@st0rmforce They're not exactly the sharpest light bulb in the crayon shed.
And their words are more credible because they actually do work with CGI. They would know better than a flerf who can't even focus their camera LOL...
And no harness setup will accommodate the crew welcome ceremonies, 6-7 people doing crossovers, coming from a tight door.
Hey Dave, found your channel via the debunking stuff you've doing (Great work by the way) but your photography stuff is brilliant. I'm a hobbyist (a Cannon Man) and absolutely loving your back catalog about photography. Especially your knowledge and breakdown of the hardware itself, Lense, APS-C, Full body etc. Awesome work.
Anyone interested in photography, you really should look a Dave's other work.
You'd think they would spend more money on compression because no wonder flat earthers eat them up that fading does look sus to someone who doesn't understand.
They’re always quick to spout the “how” but when you ask them “why this would all be fake” they can’t give you an answer
It seems the science deniers did not have much Zoom experience in recent years. Those distortions are typical for poor transmission conditions. Yawn.
I said the same thing. By their logic, everyone on Zoom calls are not real. They're product of NASA's CGI... :D
Being jobless wouldn't be that surprising
The most recent crew 6 that arrived at ISS,
I just LOVE how the Russian lady slipped on a Hoodie without bothering with her wires!
And then the 11 of them moving around so well and not tangling their wires in a crowded space!
And kudos to the post process CGI experts who got ALL of those wires erased! WOW !
And the Best part is tossing that microphone between each other.
Did ya see that! Of course, its wire was also removed in post.
SO GOOD!
And that Hair! Bouncing JUST RIGHT to simulate micro gravity!
Oh! And when an astronaut goes down a side chamber... how do their wires not interfere with the "top" of those chambers.
Thank you Dave.
All the D-K top left candidates need to watch. But it won't matter to them anyway.
I used to video puppet shows. I wonder what they use as "puppeteers" on the ISS set able to pull all those strings in the correct sequence and no entanglements.
Logic isn't a flerfer's strong suit.
@@gilleruadh do they have a strong suit?
@@ShizukuSeiji I think the dunning-kruger effect is their stong suit.
Or paranoia
Even better if you realize that when we do zero-G stuff in movies, we often have to replace the whole background if the wires are too hard to remove. It happens fairly often, but the flerfs think effects tech is just magic.
Are the flat earthers also suggesting that the Indian Space Agency did not land on the moon unmanned since there's apparently a firmament that won't allow any rocket to leave our atmosphere?
Is NASA the only target of the flat earthers, I have never heard them talking about the Chinese space station Tiangong?
Most of them think that either humans have never left earth or that humans cant leave earth
oh, most of them thin NASA is the ONLY space agency, because, and i quote, "all space agency logos look the same."
which is UTTERLY WRONG, only have of them even have a picture of a rocket!
"if this footage is badly edited and messed up then why did NASA posted it online?"- that's something conspiracy theorists don't have an answer for.
One time I was watching a game of soccer, and saw the same artifacting, proving soccer is fake.
The injuries prove that.
@@jimsmith7212 No one gets injured in soccer, they fall over, without even being touched.
I want them to explain how the ISS is able to travel thousands of mph which can be observed from your backyard on given dates.
I had a flat earther tell me that the ISS was not real because it was just another really high object in the sky like the chinese balloon. He then said in fact is just like any other balloon. Look at this balloon and look at its solar panels. Then I asked him if he was comparing the size of an alleged weather balloon solar panel to that of the ISS. He said yes. Then I left him on read.
I love how they think a high altitude balloon can track the same path in the same time yet they never will show the math and physics behind their claim because it is like they know subconsciously it isn't right.
There's a crackpot space denier that claims it's a world wide network of SR-71 class jets that fly the projected path of the ISS, just to keep up the hoax.
And then you and a buddy do some triangulation and find that this balloon is blasting along at thousands of mph.
Yeah, those chinese hypersonic spy balloons are amazing
@@st0rmforce Well responded lol. The ISS is going super fast, it rotates the Earth 16 times a day! You should have a ballon going hypersonic to do that. It's just absurd. NASA (and all of the other space agencies) have no business in lying. We all know that if the Earth was flat we would have exploited the resourceson the other side, or found a way of going there. That isn't happening
I do love the fact the flat earthers try to "debunk" something by cherry picking tiny specific things, then incorrectly observing them as proof that the whole recording is fake.
The contradiction that they think we cant make technology advanced enough to zoom in on things with lenses, but then proceed to say we have this advanced on the fly video editing software makes me laugh every time.
The religious are exceptionally adept at cherry picking..
I sometimes actually feel sorry for the people that believe all this stuff is faked because they are truly missing out on the wonders of space and the work NASA actually does. But then I remember they're the ones refusing the truth through their own sense of self-superiority.
self superiority or paranoia
Flat earthers out here demonstrating their lack of knowledge in literally every field in these ones
i think people willing to think that nasa is fake will find a reason why your debunk is also fake. you do a nice job calling out general ignorance of video production (which is a vast field). well done. 👍🏻🇺🇸🌌
He can debunking whatever he wants, but fake is fake. A person has to be really sick in his head to accept that it is all true. I can imagine people falling for it, because I thought it was all true. Despite the fact that I've found it hard to believe since I was a kid. We are not in the middle age, but we are in 2023.
I definitely like to see his videos and certainly as entertainment and fun to hear different opinions. But one has to be realistic and I say in my opinion it is 100% fake.
@@StephenJordanJavaKrypt
If you don't know then why did you say that?
That's what's idiots says
@@Fortapistone *_"I say in my opinion it is 100% fake."_*
In my opinion you are just a chatGPT bot. You can't prove me wrong so therefore you must be.
@@StephenJordanJavaKrypt "yeah uh, so, they used magically advanced ai to edit these videos since decades ago, but the videos that prove the flat earth? No man, those are real, there's no way _those_ are edited"
@@StephenJordanJavaKrypt oh... If that's the case, I apologize, but you got to know, yes, you do need a /s, why? Because flatearthers actually say idiotic things like that in a non sarcastic way... But then again, my apologies man
I'm a visual effects student and some of the VFX "mistakes" these people try to point out are laughable and totally off base to how a cig or compositing error would look
Let's face it, most of them can't work out what the flaw in pouring water over a ball and claiming to have disproved gravity is.
So many people don’t really understand how video compression works. This is why we see so many ghost videos, which are just the video compression which will always favor the background, other than things that are moving.
There is also little understanding of night vision CCTV cameras. The daytime footage is lit by the sun, so it can capture all light that comes into the frame, but at night, the camera generates the IR light by IR LEDs that project the infrared light. This is why some people walking by can seem to vanish only because they walk outside of the range of the IR which is very limited compared to the sun.
How strange that nasa would hire a middle schooler with a pirated copy of final cut and limited skills to handle their deceptions.
@SpazzyMcKenzie it's a schizo episode...
@SpazzyMcKenzie I'm sorry you didn't get my sarcasm. I guess the world is getting too strange for sarcasm to work. My point was that all the issues that were pointed out as proof that it's all a fake are too glaring and stupid to be faked. Noone who was faking it would do such a poor job of it (as if all the fakery was handled by a kid with no editing skills).
[perfectly normal video artifacts] 'this is unequivocal proof of cgi.'
“…therefore the earth is flat.”
It is rather clear evidence the flat earther hasn't got much of a clue how CGI is done.
6:46 the fading turning astronaut.
Hi Dave, I do not have the source for this video either, but I had heard, and this is just me remembering, that this video is one that was edited by an advertising company for some legitimate purpose and then later THAT video has been cropped again and been used as the original NASA video.
That would explain why there is a fade join in the current video that is used.
This would be a monumental amount of work and money for something the ISS isn't even intending to prove, for an audience that is still a minority interested in space enough to watch ISS feeds.
People who think weightlessness is some magical thing, also don't understand how weightlessness works on the ISS.