Woman Regrets Seeking Underground MDMA Treatment for Her Trauma

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
  • In 2014, Rachel appeared on The Doctors taking part in a groundbreaking study using MDMA for PTSD. Rachel shares what happened after appearing on the show, including relapsing again. She got so desperate and sick she sought underground treatment and had a very traumatic experience. Psychiatrist and neuroscientist Dr. David Rabin weighs in on why that might be.
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  • @SailorBarsoom
    @SailorBarsoom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    So it isn't that MDMA therapy doesn't work, or that it isn't safe. The problem is that, since it isn't legal, you have to go underground. You might get the best therapists in the world, or you might get... something else.
    The problem isn't the drug or the efficacy of MDMA therapy, the problem is that the law doesn't allow for follow-ups.

    • @SailorBarsoom
      @SailorBarsoom ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Three fiddy
      Thanks, but this is the exact sort of underground thing I was referring to above.

  • @mitchellmooso7658
    @mitchellmooso7658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Something smells fishy here

    • @AnonymousBelle562
      @AnonymousBelle562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You’re right about that, I used to know her, she lies by omission a lot, and she has a few sociopathic traits.

    • @Ben-pd2bx
      @Ben-pd2bx ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AnonymousBelle562 Come on, man. This is a completely unethical and irresponsible thing to say. I know Rachel too, and I have known for a very long time about the bad experience she had. Your reply is completely out of line.

  • @iamthefiremanjj
    @iamthefiremanjj ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lol I hate this show

  • @FUu-ql4kf
    @FUu-ql4kf 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She went to an ungrounded place and it was probably cut with something else. Besides, she was in a bad place before she went there. She have waited at least another week.
    It's her fault she got into something that she knew nothing about. I wish her the best.

  • @tinytim88
    @tinytim88 ปีที่แล้ว

    screening then for patients would need to be like opiates. Past history of drug abuse and tendencies to really develop habits are notable contraindications

  • @dentellier
    @dentellier ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had the worst, most traumatic experience of my life during MDMA assisted therapy with a highly trained professional. A new and indescribable level of hell opened up to me that day. It was like six hours of being tortured and eaten alive by wild demons. This was three months ago. I have been having panic attacks and struggling with despair and an almost ever-present fear of losing my mind ever since (symptoms that I did NOT have before). If there are others out there like me, I would like to find them for support. I am still struggling every day to recover from this experience, and I often feel hopeless that I will ever be able to heal from it.

    • @ZukoTheShinigami
      @ZukoTheShinigami ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm dealing with thoughts of despair aswell. If your willing, it'd be cool to keep in contact

    • @SailorBarsoom
      @SailorBarsoom ปีที่แล้ว +1

      OK, now this is exactly the sort of thing we need to learn more about. While MDMA has been a miracle drug for some, for others it clearly is not.
      The medical field needs to learn the difference, and what causes that difference, so they know who to use MDMA with and, just as importantly, who NOT to use it with.
      But they have to jump through so many hoops to do any research that it's hard to learn new things, and so the drug gets used without all the data in.
      A miracle for some, and a nightmare for others.

    • @Ben-pd2bx
      @Ben-pd2bx ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope you're doing much better, and that you were provided with long term followup and therapy by the therapist you worked with.

    • @dentellier
      @dentellier ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ben-pd2bx Thank you! It's been 11 months now since that fateful day. It's been a long journey but I have gotten a lot of support, and continue to get support. I still don't know if I will ever fully recover from that experience. I hope I can encourage others not to do this risky therapy. It is NOT worth it!

    • @Ben-pd2bx
      @Ben-pd2bx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dentellier You're welcome. I'm glad you're being supported. I admit, I have never heard of anyone having such an experience as you describe on MDMA. Typically, traumatic trips are associated with psilocybin or LSD. I'm a bit shocked. I have done MDMA therapy myself and it was incredibly powerful and helpful. I hope something may be learned from your experience about its causes, so they may be understood and steps taken to prevent such a thing from happening again.

  • @brooo6507
    @brooo6507 ปีที่แล้ว

    She went underground… Who knows if the “mdma” she took wasn’t just speed or meth. Title is very misleading

  • @lrwiersum
    @lrwiersum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shit saved my , just me the medicine and the will to get better.

    • @harry356
      @harry356 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you do it alone or did you have a friend with you? Complex ptsd?

  • @Irongaint
    @Irongaint 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    "A maintenance, and it wasn't available" in other words: I became addicted to MDMA and sought out drug dealers. She obviously didn't learn anything from her sessions and now she wants to blame the MDMA, pathetic.

    • @rachel8579
      @rachel8579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Is she criticizing MDMA, or is she criticizing the fact that because it's not legal, it means people become desperate?

    • @Irongaint
      @Irongaint 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rachel8579 She has no self control so she blames the MDMA for destroying her yet there's plenty of us who can delay gratification and use mdma therapeutically without becoming addicted, the problem isnt the MDMA its the person using it

    • @rachel8579
      @rachel8579 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Irongaint What I mean is, I dont think she's dogging on MDMA. I think she just regrets going about it through "illegal" means after her initial treatment with professionals. Yeah some people become desperate for healing, i don't blame her.

    • @beta447
      @beta447 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Seriously? Get a grip, MDMA is not addictive. Doing the drug again after several years is nothing. The fact she was in remission for years is still very impressive.

    • @tonivaripati5951
      @tonivaripati5951 ปีที่แล้ว

      most people want to dance!