I would love to see the Boostmonster in a mullet configuration, so 26" front and 24" rear. The headangle looks a bit steep anyway with just 300mm of travel 🤣
@@dannyt.8965 dont think this will work better as it looked like the front wheel has not the grip in tight corners and over/trough rough stuff. So a grippy, fresh 26" Assegai or Magic Mary in the front would be my choice...
I used to run 24x3” on my Brooklyn machine works for years 3mm thick tubes and the key is 8-12 psi for best grip 😉 but the old school rubber compounds can’t compare to modern rubber
So glad you tried these on the big bike, I always loved the look of the 24's on Krispy's Karpiel but I've never ridden 24's myself. Great to see them in action with a proper assessment. Loving this series mate, keep up the good work!
I tried that line you did at the end of the video on ALine at 21:47 on Aug 13th and I was going too fast and launched left off that roll down under the gondi and crashed so hard that I broke my collarbone in 2 places, 4 broken ribs, broken tip of scapula and a punctured lung. They had to stop the gondola and carry me through the gondi station to get me to the clinic, then an ambulance trip to Lions Gate Hospital in North Van for 4 days, not fun. Just starting to get better now almost 3 months later. BTW my bike is OK :)
I did that same double inside line on a couple runs this summer but found it way sketchier than railing the far tops of those two berms at full speed. I'm glad you're healing up!
Hello from Greece! Very nice video! I have a specialized camber pro 26" 2012 Two years ago I put a rear wheel from a specialized riprock 24" with a 2.8 tire, front 26x2.35, the bike impressed me! It turns and brakes better and the most important thing for me on the hills is easier! I do cross country, I am also 55 years old I'm very pleased and I'm not going to change it!
Jordan your bike stands out from the rest even without the 24 inch wheels it looks Sick and 300 mil travel is insane mines 180 mil travel front and rear and that is more than enough for the trails I ride!! My bike is old school a Xduro Nduro Pro Haibike but yours is just so Eyecatching Great Video Dude!!
Yeah Jordan The boost monster and the VT of bender brought back so many memories Of him just chucking himself off basically cliffs From watching this video I think the 26s need to go back on 24s like you say were finding all the little holes and at Whistler or any of the bike park Could end your day very quickly
I would be curious to see the contact patch difference between the tire sizes & pressures. Given the difference is mostly in 1 dimension, you could set a metal ruler under the tire to measure the length of the contact patch difference under static load deformation at the very least. Bonus points for bouncing up and down to see what it'd look like mid-berm.
Love to see you buck the trends and really give everything a try and consideration. In reality as riders we can adapt to anything. But it is interested to see how different set ups ride different terrain. You might need to visit Woodward and stoke out some camp kids in the future with your cool builds and maybe a load of boostmaster stickers. Keep on keepin on Jordan.
Those duro’s were my favourite back in the day. Super heavy and good for avoiding pinch flats… used to run them at like 9psi with dh tubes. Bloody tires (26”) weighed like 6lbs per tire though not counting the rim.
Maybe having a 3inch front tyre and a 2.4 inch rear is having an effect on the bike? I would imagine that would affect cornering a lot, but could be wrong! Great content mate keep up the good work! 🎉
Nice ! 24" in the back was quite common in the DH bike in those times. It make the geometry of the old bikes more "modern". Love the super monster + A Line !
Great Video! Loved seeing so much of Whistler. I gotta say though, some a bit funky with the compression and/or camera sometimes where the video just doesn't come through. Hope to see more of your stuff!
I was surprised you kept that front tire and didn't opt for DHF DH front and rear. I could have lent you my daughters 😉😆 I liked the video Boostman - and that bike is sick!
I recently laced up a 24 inch arrow racing dhx to the rear of my 2008 freeride bike watching this video again glad I did. Feels like a bmx mulletmonster now
At a certain point the wheels are just too small as they are more easily caught on divots and square edges. Those wheels are heavier too so that kind of negates any kind of rotational weight advantages.
hey Halo makes some modern day 24x3 tires, they are called Halo Contra, I run them on my old school 243 dh and they work great. same tread pattern as the old ones but are brand new and use some softer rubber.
I like the Halo Contra . It comes in 24x3.0 inch and Specialised do a 24x3.0 tube too. They grip well and look well on my 20 year old Banshee Scream with its measly 8 inch travel. But I do have a motor. How about Boostmonster gets a 3kw upgrade ? Just putting it out there. Great video.
Great experiment man, love it. Less grip overall makes sense because smaller wheels have a tighter curve and therefore a smaller contact patch with the ground at the same pressure.
The guys from Ukraine had those monster bikes with small wheels in the 90's,and they were named streetetz, combination of the words street and pizdietz. These bikes where dropped from stairs or garage roofs on flats. After some drops the guys went to a local shop an drank some beer(wiht no alcohol, indeed)
Might need to try some kind of mullet setup with the boostmaster. 24x3 rear and 26 front? Maybe 26 rear and 27.5 front if you can fit it. But yeah, you definitely ould still use a longer wheelbase, regardless. At least 1.3 if not 1.35-1.4m.
Thanks for testing out different wheel sizes. Did you ever test out different wheel weights, just guessing higher weight could pull one down the hills faster. Increased weight could be done by adding water to the wheels. It could be 1 liter pr wheel, more would lease to little air in the wheels that they would give less and more progressively suspension.
when i had a intense m1 from 1999 with mr dirt fat forks with some tweeks to get 9+ front and rear. i had 24 wheels. 3.0 nokan gazza up front and 2.6 nokian on the rear. with mx inner tubes it weighed about 68 pound but it would destroy stumps and branches it got up to speed really quickly and it peddaled not bad for a lump.when i cornered i found foot down mx style helped with tight corners and sinking the body weigh into the seat as i cornerd helped as well. other than that it was a blast to ride and with fender and paint it looked very mcgrath style in the blue.
try some halo contras. they'll have the same tread as the duro tire, but they're 3.0s (which means they're awesome) and will be made out of new rubber. i would highly recommend getting a set.
Yes it was rear hub. Sometime pawls doing this thing on landing. I owened one similar for two years - this sound took time... May be 2-3 times a year...
The wheels act like a gyroscope, if you have small wheel and not much mass at the tires, the gyroscope will be weaker. If you have big wheels with small mass the gyroscope will be better. So compared to dirtbike wheels they are small but had more mass than bicycle ones which gyro will be stronger. The bigger wheel the better gyroscope is being made. You can have really strong gyroscope with small wheels but mass need to be high...
24 inches isn't the problem for grip. It's the tires (the front tire more specifically, which looks horrible) and pressures in your case. :P Suspension does play a lot too but yours is pretty dialed right ? 24 inches will be more problematic in chunky stuff. It'll slow you down a lot and can even upset your bike. At least that's what I've found comparing 26ers vs 29ers. Hopefully you find something that works for this beast !
You should really try mullet 26/24 it might make the tech trails a little better. Thanks Jordan for another great video, and I am looking forward to the video on your other channel.
Omg that Supermonster on 24"s with that 3" tire is the most MX looking thing i've seen on a bike... shame I only have a 888 Rc3 with 24"s, I'm lacking a bit hahahaha
Not to take away from your analysis along the video, but it makes sense the bike started to feel better as you started to get used to it more. Doing stuff on the raggedy edge means every little thing affects your performance and perception, there's also a big psychological component involved too, probably something of a placebo effect or it in reverse or something. I'm not a doctor or a DH-enthusiast.
You need a 3.0 in the rear as well. That 2.4 is considerably smaller than a 3.0 and your footprint would be spread out laterally which she would gain a lot of traction from.
Conservation of momentum, an object with a higher mass will continue further than the same object with a lower mass with the same initial kinetic energy. Basically once youre going, you keep going, that's my guess as to why the flow feels good.
Been waiting for this vid bro for what your doing probably better with 26 front and 24 rear then its between a huck bike and the 26 front will give you more grip on the front
I think the strange noise after you jumped off the A frame was the rear suspension being bottomed out… not sure though I’m only going off past experience.
i ran a 24" 3.0 double wide rims on my disco volante w resse front shock. i did not like it at all, it slowed me down too much. the 26" with 2.8 tires worked like a charm
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One more vote from me for the mullet 26/24 setup 👍🏻 Keep up the great work!
I ran 26/24 on my 2003 VPS Atomik, and hates everything about it.
This experiment is the best mtb content on TH-cam
glad you like it!
Easily 👌
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If u want real experiments look at Sam pilgrims videos 😂
I would love to see the Boostmonster in a mullet configuration, so 26" front and 24" rear. The headangle looks a bit steep anyway with just 300mm of travel 🤣
reverse mullet: 26 rear 24 front
@@dannyt.8965 dont think this will work better as it looked like the front wheel has not the grip in tight corners and over/trough rough stuff.
So a grippy, fresh 26" Assegai or Magic Mary in the front would be my choice...
With how high up the handlebars would be, I wonder how a reverse mullet would work out
@@dannyt.8965 That would steepen the head angle, maybe not by much in the car park but when the fork dives under heavy compression...!?!
@@gravity.gourmet no such thing as 26 inch assegai
Not many people can speak intelligently to the differences in all these wheel sizes, especially testing them all at the same place. Killer job man!
thanks!
i wish he was around in 2006 before bikes all went 6inch and 27.5. his set up is my '01 kranked dream.
I used to run 24x3” on my Brooklyn machine works for years 3mm thick tubes and the key is 8-12 psi for best grip 😉 but the old school rubber compounds can’t compare to modern rubber
i forgot i misses those.
So glad you tried these on the big bike, I always loved the look of the 24's on Krispy's Karpiel but I've never ridden 24's myself. Great to see them in action with a proper assessment.
Loving this series mate, keep up the good work!
i think 26" front, 24" rear is the way to go for this rig
I tried that line you did at the end of the video on ALine at 21:47 on Aug 13th and I was going too fast and launched left off that roll down under the gondi and crashed so hard that I broke my collarbone in 2 places, 4 broken ribs, broken tip of scapula and a punctured lung.
They had to stop the gondola and carry me through the gondi station to get me to the clinic, then an ambulance trip to Lions Gate Hospital in North Van for 4 days, not fun.
Just starting to get better now almost 3 months later.
BTW my bike is OK :)
Oh wow that's insane! I am glad you are getting better now
I did that same double inside line on a couple runs this summer but found it way sketchier than railing the far tops of those two berms at full speed. I'm glad you're healing up!
I want to see 29 front, 24 rear
You should totally try rocking a 26/24 inch Mullet as well! I agree, 26 Inch Gravity bikes are great fun!
In the early 2000s i remember seeing guys at the delta watershed with 24" rear wheels and they were seriously good riders.
I'd love to see some more external views of you hucking stuff and trail riding on the Boostmonster so we can all enjoy the travel.
Loving the content! Just goes to show you "old" tech is still good fun!
Hello from Greece!
Very nice video!
I have a specialized camber pro 26" 2012
Two years ago I put a rear wheel from a specialized riprock 24" with a 2.8 tire, front 26x2.35, the bike impressed me! It turns and brakes better and the most important thing for me on the hills is easier! I do cross country, I am also 55 years old
I'm very pleased and I'm not going to change it!
Jordan your bike stands out from the rest even without the 24 inch wheels it looks Sick and 300 mil travel is insane mines 180 mil travel front and rear and that is more than enough for the trails I ride!! My bike is old school a Xduro Nduro Pro Haibike but yours is just so Eyecatching Great Video Dude!!
Yeah Jordan The boost monster and the VT of bender brought back so many memories Of him just chucking himself off basically cliffs From watching this video I think the 26s need to go back on 24s like you say were finding all the little holes and at Whistler or any of the bike park Could end your day very quickly
Would love to see some flat drops and urban hucks on this monster
Sick rig! I still have my 2000 Foes DHS with the inverted Foes fork and 24 inch rear wheel!
I would be curious to see the contact patch difference between the tire sizes & pressures. Given the difference is mostly in 1 dimension, you could set a metal ruler under the tire to measure the length of the contact patch difference under static load deformation at the very least. Bonus points for bouncing up and down to see what it'd look like mid-berm.
Love to see you buck the trends and really give everything a try and consideration. In reality as riders we can adapt to anything. But it is interested to see how different set ups ride different terrain. You might need to visit Woodward and stoke out some camp kids in the future with your cool builds and maybe a load of boostmaster stickers. Keep on keepin on Jordan.
It’s not a Jordan Boostmaster video without at least a couple crashes! Love it!
my god, that thing looks even more insane like this... really looks like a dirtbike now lol :)
I have a 24" Mag 30 wheel hanging on my wall. Yours if you want it. Had it on the rear end of a 26/24 mullet Pipeline back in the day.
That's a great video. I never expected I could see a supermonster with 24" inch wheels on the modern trails in Whistler.
Those duro’s were my favourite back in the day. Super heavy and good for avoiding pinch flats… used to run them at like 9psi with dh tubes. Bloody tires (26”) weighed like 6lbs per tire though not counting the rim.
love to see you comming to France (chatel, les gets,morzine, morgins ) lots of freeride and tech 👍
Maybe having a 3inch front tyre and a 2.4 inch rear is having an effect on the bike? I would imagine that would affect cornering a lot, but could be wrong!
Great content mate keep up the good work! 🎉
Can't wait for a custom paint job! Make it the dream!
I used to ride a Stinky with 7" travel plates on the rear, 888s up front and a set of Atomlabs 24s. It was such a fun bike. I miss it!
Please try a 26/24 mullet Jordan, PLEASE
Nice ! 24" in the back was quite common in the DH bike in those times. It make the geometry of the old bikes more "modern".
Love the super monster + A Line !
Should have put the old front tire on the rear and put the fresh one on the front
ya that could work better
I think they’re the best tabes I have ever seen you do! 😮
thanks I was surprising myself!
Great Video! Loved seeing so much of Whistler. I gotta say though, some a bit funky with the compression and/or camera sometimes where the video just doesn't come through. Hope to see more of your stuff!
I was surprised you kept that front tire and didn't opt for DHF DH front and rear. I could have lent you my daughters 😉😆
I liked the video Boostman - and that bike is sick!
I actually did buy two 24" minion DHF's, but I just wanted to try the oldschool tire first though
That’s a crazy setup!
I recently laced up a 24 inch arrow racing dhx to the rear of my 2008 freeride bike watching this video again glad I did. Feels like a bmx mulletmonster now
Boostmonster is looking sick on 24s! 🔥🔥🔥 still riding my 24s!
This bike is almost perfect now !!!!!! 😎
At a certain point the wheels are just too small as they are more easily caught on divots and square edges. Those wheels are heavier too so that kind of negates any kind of rotational weight advantages.
hey Halo makes some modern day 24x3 tires, they are called Halo Contra, I run them on my old school 243 dh and they work great. same tread pattern as the old ones but are brand new and use some softer rubber.
oh ya? they use softer rubber too? That would be nice
0:52 man that shiver in the back looking mean, he is probably saying "GODDAMN IT PUT ME ON A BIKE FINALLY!" xD
I like the Halo Contra . It comes in 24x3.0 inch and Specialised do a 24x3.0 tube too. They grip well and look well on my 20 year old
Banshee Scream with its measly 8 inch travel.
But I do have a motor. How about Boostmonster gets a 3kw upgrade ? Just putting it out there. Great video.
A motor drive on a Scream! That's super cool. I'd love to see some footage of it.
That extra bottom side mass carries extra rolling momentum on those run ups to your jumps from what is sounds like. Cool video.
Great experiment man, love it. Less grip overall makes sense because smaller wheels have a tighter curve and therefore a smaller contact patch with the ground at the same pressure.
Awesome build bud. And holy moly you got some riding skills!
Your awesome for making this video! 👍
Weather you do it with 27.5 or 29" wheels go and create a heavy set up. DH tires with DH inserts or tubes on heavy rims and see how those roll.
The guys from Ukraine had those monster bikes with small wheels in the 90's,and they were named streetetz, combination of the words street and pizdietz. These bikes where dropped from stairs or garage roofs on flats. After some drops the guys went to a local shop an drank some beer(wiht no alcohol, indeed)
LVN is a legend.
fun to see you ride 24 on the boostmonster
Might need to try some kind of mullet setup with the boostmaster. 24x3 rear and 26 front? Maybe 26 rear and 27.5 front if you can fit it. But yeah, you definitely ould still use a longer wheelbase, regardless. At least 1.3 if not 1.35-1.4m.
Jordan's next video idea:
"RIDING THE MOST GNARLY TECH ON WHISTLER MOUNTAIN ON 20" WHEELS!!!"
It's funny you post this as I am about to try a set of 24s on my DH bike too.
The Mag30’s! I remember those from my biking days.
24" looks stunning on that bike :O
Thanks for testing out different wheel sizes. Did you ever test out different wheel weights, just guessing higher weight could pull one down the hills faster. Increased weight could be done by adding water to the wheels. It could be 1 liter pr wheel, more would lease to little air in the wheels that they would give less and more progressively suspension.
The weird noise what you my guy!! Great video keep up the good work!!
when i had a intense m1 from 1999 with mr dirt fat forks with some tweeks to get 9+ front and rear. i had 24 wheels. 3.0 nokan gazza up front and 2.6 nokian on the rear. with mx inner tubes it weighed about 68 pound but it would destroy stumps and branches it got up to speed really quickly and it peddaled not bad for a lump.when i cornered i found foot down mx style helped with tight corners and sinking the body weigh into the seat as i cornerd helped as well. other than that it was a blast to ride and with fender and paint it looked very mcgrath style in the blue.
that sounds pretty epic!
Another vote for mullet 26/24. Magic mary front, dhf rear would have a ton of traction
Man These vids always make me want to ride my 26" Kona process ;)
try some halo contras. they'll have the same tread as the duro tire, but they're 3.0s (which means they're awesome) and will be made out of new rubber. i would highly recommend getting a set.
I’m digging this old school monster!
I was wondering if we'd get to see it on Crabapple Hits, since you say it's best on the big flowy jumps.
I was considering it, but never ended up happening, plus sometimes there was wind or it was closed
Yes it was rear hub. Sometime pawls doing this thing on landing. I owened one similar for two years - this sound took time... May be 2-3 times a year...
I'd highly recommend a 24, 26 mullet. I set up my chilcotin with that set up and it's sooo snappy.
The wheels act like a gyroscope, if you have small wheel and not much mass at the tires, the gyroscope will be weaker. If you have big wheels with small mass the gyroscope will be better. So compared to dirtbike wheels they are small but had more mass than bicycle ones which gyro will be stronger. The bigger wheel the better gyroscope is being made. You can have really strong gyroscope with small wheels but mass need to be high...
Back in early 2000's freeride hardtail frames with doublecrown forks, 24" doublewide rims with gazzaloddi 3.0 tyres were our "fatbikes".
24 inches isn't the problem for grip. It's the tires (the front tire more specifically, which looks horrible) and pressures in your case. :P Suspension does play a lot too but yours is pretty dialed right ?
24 inches will be more problematic in chunky stuff. It'll slow you down a lot and can even upset your bike. At least that's what I've found comparing 26ers vs 29ers. Hopefully you find something that works for this beast !
Awesome content once again buddy 🤩🤘🔥
*"life's too short not to go big, gotta go big"*
You should really try mullet 26/24 it might make the tech trails a little better. Thanks Jordan for another great video, and I am looking forward to the video on your other channel.
That is glorious, I run a 24 rear on my hubdrive DH bike, it runs like a dream on the exact same tyre.
bet the jumps felt massive 😂
A LONG time ago when I had my ATX, I used to have 26 front and rear, but shortly went to a Dice 24 rear and Dice 26 front and never went back :-)
"Are you Jordan boostermaster?"
"Yep"
Haha
you should buy dartmoor shield 24 inch rims, they are light and strong
That kid at the line was absolutely flabbergasted
15:46 , Yeah buddy, light weight baby
Omg that Supermonster on 24"s with that 3" tire is the most MX looking thing i've seen on a bike... shame I only have a 888 Rc3 with 24"s, I'm lacking a bit hahahaha
Not to take away from your analysis along the video, but it makes sense the bike started to feel better as you started to get used to it more. Doing stuff on the raggedy edge means every little thing affects your performance and perception, there's also a big psychological component involved too, probably something of a placebo effect or it in reverse or something. I'm not a doctor or a DH-enthusiast.
You should try to set up a bike with a SuperMullet setup: 29 in the front, 24 in the back.
Boostcore ™ inserts 😆
11:04 that shot was so sick
You need a 3.0 in the rear as well. That 2.4 is considerably smaller than a 3.0 and your footprint would be spread out laterally which she would gain a lot of traction from.
Conservation of momentum, an object with a higher mass will continue further than the same object with a lower mass with the same initial kinetic energy. Basically once youre going, you keep going, that's my guess as to why the flow feels good.
In a word, it's fucking awesome! Thanks for the vidos, you made my Friday!
that actually makes sense because you probably wouldn't have as much rolling resistance from the smaller tires with that massive fork
Been waiting for this vid bro for what your doing probably better with 26 front and 24 rear then its between a huck bike and the 26 front will give you more grip on the front
To be fair its setup as a hook bike hook to flat from 10-20 foot fine on that needs some nice big drops
I think the strange noise after you jumped off the A frame was the rear suspension being bottomed out… not sure though I’m only going off past experience.
Jooo, I love the content and the bike looks wicked on the 24s haha
Love the jorts and knee pads 😂
Jordan You should put your 24s on your other A-line u know the blue one
11:07 was so sick
i still have 24" MAG30's on my 2002 norco :D
Watching the video, one thing that's interesting is the fact that those 24" wheels shows which lines at Whistler that is the most fun.
i ran a 24" 3.0 double wide rims on my disco volante w resse front shock. i did not like it at all, it slowed me down too much. the 26" with 2.8 tires worked like a charm
Seeing you going for a fast ride like this without gloves... gives me the shivers.... I see ripped of skin before my eyes...
that Shiver DC was a sneaky one....
0:57 I have similar Big Hit frame