what I don't understand is that the safety label says do not store in places above 120 deg F. But cars regularly reach over especially in Texas sun heat. is it okay to store any fire extinguisher inside the car?
I really liked your previous videos on fire extinguishers. I would not have learned about the K class of extinguishers, and definitely wouldn't get to know HalGuard if it wasn't for you. Sadly can't enter the contest due to the shipping restriction but thank you for the very informative video (not many people put as much effort and references as you do) and to HalGuard for sponsoring! Happy holidays Cliff!!
Good for a legacy vehicle I think. Not a choice for a home unit. I do think your choice of a storage position in your vehicle is a bad choice, though, as far as immediate access goes. 1,.) get everyone out, & away from the vehicle Then you are going to go dig around in the back?
I know I’m a bit late, but for reference if you are ever in an place that has a halon system and it discharges, hold your breath and get out. Halon basically word by removing oxygen from the area.
having had a car fire with total vehicle loss I can say its a scary experience. I had a fire extinguisher, but wife had moved it and didnt tell me.....i now have mine in the passenger door pocket, and a 2nd at the back door halfway up the wall in a wall mount. not a good idea to put them out of sight in a cupboard where the door could get jammed in an accident.
Go Hawks! TY for posting this. I was looking for something like this. Now to get something like this miniaturize, with the same amount (of)chemicals in it, to carry in a B.O.B.
Thanks for the 10%, but Amazon has the H3R Performance HG250B for $187.49. Seems like you would get a better deal straight from H3R rather than through a middleman. What is the max temp that this extinguisher will be safe at? Here in Texas, interiors can get very hot, as in probably 130 degrees or more.
It supposedly is rated to go up to 122*F but I wouldn’t recommend it for a very hot environment. I have one of these extinguishers and have found it to be very temperature sensitive due to the thinner cylinder along with the liquid Halotron 1 inside. I currently have mine indoors since the pressure gauge got up to the overcharged range a few times.
When seconds count, in a fire or medical emergency, having immediate access to the fire extinguisher and trauma kit are critical. So it concerns me that Mrs. UrbanPrepper has convinced you to store your two most critical items in the back lower compartment. If you ever have that back area full of luggage or camping gear, it may take you several minutes to unload everything to gain access to your emergency items. It’s also a good idea to have a jump kit trauma bag in the front of the car so you can grab and go to help others (such as car accident victims) who may have severe bleeding. Plus, what if you are driving by yourself, hit a pole, and are pinned in your vehicle. How are you going to reach your fire extinguisher and trauma kit with it being in the back under 100lbs of Christmas presents? At least have a couple of tourniquets and gauze within reach of both the driver and passenger. …just a thought.
@@TheUrbanPrepper I’m impressed with the number of prepping battles that you’ve already won! I just now bought a HALGUARD HG500C and the front seat mount. Thank you so much for giving us a promo code. It worked on top of their 15% off Christmas sale.
Purple K is Purple when it comes out, ABC is yellow, Purple K wont damage wiring. ABS Melts at 385 degrees and it sticks to very hot surfaces, Purple K dose not.
Thanks Cliff, I always enjoy your videos. I do have a few questions though. Have you found anyone in your area to recharge this? I’m looking to buy the HG500C and was curious about the cost to recharge five pounds of Halotron 1. How is the HG1550R model listed for type A (2A:10B:C), even though it uses the same Halotron 1 as the smaller units that are only listed as B:C. The HG250R model only has a 2 B:C rating. Aren’t B and C rated by the square footage that they can extinguish? So 2 is VERY small. Even the 5lb unit is only five square feet (5 B:C). I have great concerns that these wouldn’t put out much of a fire compared to other, non dry chemical extinguishers, such as the Element E50. I’d love to see you do a review of the E50. I think everyone, except Mr. Echo Chambers, understands that the Dry Chemical extinguishers severely damage your car’s electrical wiring and leaves a residue that’s nearly impossible to get rid of. So the H3R Halguard is clearly superior to a $30 First Alert dry chemical model if you want to protect your McLaren. However, I’d love to see a head-to-head competition of the H3R HG250R vs. the Element E50. They are both zero residue but the Element E50 works for 50 seconds and is ABC rated. It’s also only $79.00 USD, and is about the size of a road flare. So I can place several of them under my seat and keep a fire at bay if I’m pinned in my McLaren.
Good video and review, though bittersweet. This is the type of extinguisher I have been looking for, but the price has a sting to it. Still, thank you for the copious background info and practical use demonstration.
I haven't seen a card yet. I'll recheck. BTW, I re-mailed the Vanquest velcro today. Hopefully it arrives before the new year. I got a tracking number this time.
@@TheUrbanPrepper Hmm, red envelope mailed to the return adres you put on the card you send me. Seeing yours got to me, i surely hope the same goes for the other way round. Should have wrote the date down i send it, just to check for the general time it takes. Well at least you know it's coming...
It will not do the same thing. The major selling point of this fire extinguisher is the use of Halotron 1, which will evaporate. If you were to use a Fire Alert ABC or Purple K fire extinguisher on your engine, it would put out the fire and then you've have to spend a lot more money cleaning up the HUGE mess and replacing the electrical wiring, which the ABC agent will corrode. I use ABC fire extinguisher (like the Fire Alert or Amerex) in my home and for organic materials and Halotron 1 for my vehicle engine.
Traditional pressurized metal canister Fire Extinguishers are a 70 year old technology. You should check out the UL Listed Rusoh Eliminator: www.teamfti.com/eliminator
On the product... bit sad to see something that depletes the ozone layer still on the market today ... merely because somebody found (or politicians left in) a loophole :( ... save your car in a fire, but sacrifice the planet :/ ... clearly not a product for me.
I think you have a misunderstanding regarding the extinguishing agent. TheUrbanPrepper talked about how Halotron is a more environmentally responsible alternative to Halon, the production of which is banned because of how much it harms the ozone. Halotron is not Halon.
The fact is Halon is much more effective than Halotron, CO2 or whatever watered down "clean agent" available on the market. In the event of a vehicle fire, not only am I concerned about saving the car, but I'm also concerned about saving the person who might be trapped inside, due to a crash, rollover etc!!!! Not to mention all the smoke from a burned up vehicle is going to cause way more damage to the ozone layer than the Halon coming out of the extinguisher!
@@LibertyWines No there is not a better alternative. The halon agent you buy today was made prior to 1993 and has been stored in very large chemical storage facilities. It does not go bad. But as time goes by, the price increases as stockpiles diminish. I understand taking measures to protect the envoirnment, but there should be an exception when it comes to fire extinguishing agents. The Halon coming out of that discharge nozzle is going to do less damage to the ozone layer then the fire its trying to extinguish. Not to mention the potential lives at risk because of mandated inferior "alternative" extinguishing agents.
what I don't understand is that the safety label says do not store in places above 120 deg F.
But cars regularly reach over especially in Texas sun heat. is it okay to store any fire extinguisher inside the car?
A demonstration of the product extinguishing a fire would have been nice.
Pricey but considering what it may save, worth it. Good investment! Glad to see you putting up videos again. Thanks for your reviews as always!
Greetings and salutations!
How much does it cost to recharge the tank?
Cheers
I really liked your previous videos on fire extinguishers. I would not have learned about the K class of extinguishers, and definitely wouldn't get to know HalGuard if it wasn't for you. Sadly can't enter the contest due to the shipping restriction but thank you for the very informative video (not many people put as much effort and references as you do) and to HalGuard for sponsoring! Happy holidays Cliff!!
I see you've been working on your vehicle kit/EDC. Would love an update video.
Good for a legacy vehicle I think. Not a choice for a home unit.
I do think your choice of a storage position in your vehicle is a bad choice, though, as far as immediate access goes.
1,.) get everyone out, & away from the vehicle
Then you are going to go dig around in the back?
Invaluable to have in a vehicle! And thanks for the contest. :)
Amazon has the black one for around $180 prime.
Are there any newer equivalent HalGuard Class B fire extinguishers on market for less expensive???
I know I’m a bit late, but for reference if you are ever in an place that has a halon system and it discharges, hold your breath and get out. Halon basically word by removing oxygen from the area.
Good thing you used the right canister. Merry Christmas
Chrome and black versión are the same or they have differences?
having had a car fire with total vehicle loss I can say its a scary experience. I had a fire extinguisher, but wife had moved it and didnt tell me.....i now have mine in the passenger door pocket, and a 2nd at the back door halfway up the wall in a wall mount. not a good idea to put them out of sight in a cupboard where the door could get jammed in an accident.
Go Hawks! TY for posting this. I was looking for something like this. Now to get something like this miniaturize, with the same amount (of)chemicals in it, to carry in a B.O.B.
That would be pretty sweet!
That was informative. Thanks.
Content or contest because the description says content, please clarify
Note, the 2 BC rating means it can extinguish a petroleum fire of up to two square feet in size.
Yes! In my last fire extinguisher video I talked about how to read those ratings. I probably should be done a refresher for others in this video.
Another great video sir. Very informative and I love your element. My family loves our hondas. Great work.
Thanks Walter! We're a Honda family too.
Thanks for the 10%, but Amazon has the H3R Performance HG250B for $187.49. Seems like you would get a better deal straight from H3R rather than through a middleman.
What is the max temp that this extinguisher will be safe at? Here in Texas, interiors can get very hot, as in probably 130 degrees or more.
It supposedly is rated to go up to 122*F but I wouldn’t recommend it for a very hot environment. I have one of these extinguishers and have found it to be very temperature sensitive due to the thinner cylinder along with the liquid Halotron 1 inside. I currently have mine indoors since the pressure gauge got up to the overcharged range a few times.
I like. This also gives me an excuse to weld a bracket more suitable for my use
When seconds count, in a fire or medical emergency, having immediate access to the fire extinguisher and trauma kit are critical. So it concerns me that Mrs. UrbanPrepper has convinced you to store your two most critical items in the back lower compartment. If you ever have that back area full of luggage or camping gear, it may take you several minutes to unload everything to gain access to your emergency items. It’s also a good idea to have a jump kit trauma bag in the front of the car so you can grab and go to help others (such as car accident victims) who may have severe bleeding. Plus, what if you are driving by yourself, hit a pole, and are pinned in your vehicle. How are you going to reach your fire extinguisher and trauma kit with it being in the back under 100lbs of Christmas presents? At least have a couple of tourniquets and gauze within reach of both the driver and passenger. …just a thought.
As a married man, sometimes you need to choose your battles. Hopefully I will win the war. :)
@@TheUrbanPrepper I’m impressed with the number of prepping battles that you’ve already won! I just now bought a HALGUARD HG500C and the front seat mount. Thank you so much for giving us a promo code. It worked on top of their 15% off Christmas sale.
@@TheUrbanPrepper NEVER! Always remember Cliff, Happy Wife, Happy Life! My wife Giggles in the backgrounds right about now :)
Purple K is Purple when it comes out, ABC is yellow, Purple K wont damage wiring. ABS Melts at 385 degrees and it sticks to very hot surfaces, Purple K dose not.
The national fire protection association has lobbied several times for automatic fire extinguishing systems in automobiles. A great idea.
That would be AWESOME!!
@@TheUrbanPrepper It should be an option, not a requirement
Thanks Cliff, I always enjoy your videos. I do have a few questions though. Have you found anyone in your area to recharge this? I’m looking to buy the HG500C and was curious about the cost to recharge five pounds of Halotron 1. How is the HG1550R model listed for type A (2A:10B:C), even though it uses the same Halotron 1 as the smaller units that are only listed as B:C. The HG250R model only has a 2 B:C rating. Aren’t B and C rated by the square footage that they can extinguish? So 2 is VERY small. Even the 5lb unit is only five square feet (5 B:C). I have great concerns that these wouldn’t put out much of a fire compared to other, non dry chemical extinguishers, such as the Element E50. I’d love to see you do a review of the E50.
I think everyone, except Mr. Echo Chambers, understands that the Dry Chemical extinguishers severely damage your car’s electrical wiring and leaves a residue that’s nearly impossible to get rid of. So the H3R Halguard is clearly superior to a $30 First Alert dry chemical model if you want to protect your McLaren. However, I’d love to see a head-to-head competition of the H3R HG250R vs. the Element E50. They are both zero residue but the Element E50 works for 50 seconds and is ABC rated. It’s also only $79.00 USD, and is about the size of a road flare. So I can place several of them under my seat and keep a fire at bay if I’m pinned in my McLaren.
Nice extinguisher 👍🏻
Thanks for sharing this.👻👽🏁👍.
Good video and review, though bittersweet. This is the type of extinguisher I have been looking for, but the price has a sting to it. Still, thank you for the copious background info and practical use demonstration.
Thanks for watching. Yes, it does sting compared to ABC fire extinguishers.
I think a 2kg CO2 Fire Extinguisher can do the same, but much cheaper.
Cool!
Wouldn't be better to test it on a real fire
Still hoping to hear if you got my card ^^
I haven't seen a card yet. I'll recheck. BTW, I re-mailed the Vanquest velcro today. Hopefully it arrives before the new year. I got a tracking number this time.
@@TheUrbanPrepper Hmm, red envelope mailed to the return adres you put on the card you send me. Seeing yours got to me, i surely hope the same goes for the other way round. Should have wrote the date down i send it, just to check for the general time it takes. Well at least you know it's coming...
Cool.
First Alert Extinguisher.Like 30 bucks on Amazon.The Chrome looks pretty,but it does the same job at almost 10x the cost.
It will not do the same thing. The major selling point of this fire extinguisher is the use of Halotron 1, which will evaporate. If you were to use a Fire Alert ABC or Purple K fire extinguisher on your engine, it would put out the fire and then you've have to spend a lot more money cleaning up the HUGE mess and replacing the electrical wiring, which the ABC agent will corrode. I use ABC fire extinguisher (like the Fire Alert or Amerex) in my home and for organic materials and Halotron 1 for my vehicle engine.
You missed the whole point of the video.
Only 10 sec of usage 😧
Traditional pressurized metal canister Fire Extinguishers are a 70 year old technology.
You should check out the UL Listed Rusoh Eliminator: www.teamfti.com/eliminator
DOOD.
You drive a Honda and running this item . LoL
On the product... bit sad to see something that depletes the ozone layer still on the market today ... merely because somebody found (or politicians left in) a loophole :( ... save your car in a fire, but sacrifice the planet :/ ... clearly not a product for me.
I think you have a misunderstanding regarding the extinguishing agent. TheUrbanPrepper talked about how Halotron is a more environmentally responsible alternative to Halon, the production of which is banned because of how much it harms the ozone. Halotron is not Halon.
The fact is Halon is much more effective than Halotron, CO2 or whatever watered down "clean agent" available on the market. In the event of a vehicle fire, not only am I concerned about saving the car, but I'm also concerned about saving the person who might be trapped inside, due to a crash, rollover etc!!!! Not to mention all the smoke from a burned up vehicle is going to cause way more damage to the ozone layer than the Halon coming out of the extinguisher!
@@gunsho11bAre there any newer equivalent HalGuard Class B fire extinguishers on market for less expensive???
@@gunsho11bor any other top-notch Halon fire extinguishers on market?
@@LibertyWines No there is not a better alternative. The halon agent you buy today was made prior to 1993 and has been stored in very large chemical storage facilities. It does not go bad. But as time goes by, the price increases as stockpiles diminish. I understand taking measures to protect the envoirnment, but there should be an exception when it comes to fire extinguishing agents. The Halon coming out of that discharge nozzle is going to do less damage to the ozone layer then the fire its trying to extinguish. Not to mention the potential lives at risk because of mandated inferior "alternative" extinguishing agents.