@@carollo3848 they will be their death if they keep acting like that and disobeying orders imagine two of them go rogue and now the rest of the team is immediately reduced by two then some members of the team now go and try to rescue them or back them up putting everyone in danger either replace them immediately or have these ticking time bombs strap to your team
They succeeded in destroying the artillery, but they disobeyed orders. But imagine if they didn't, and they got blown up to bits. The whole infantry would have 2 less firepower that would have made the task at hand difficult or impossible.
"You've practically admitted that you send those men to their deaths knowingly. I find that fascinating and I will follow you to the ends of the earth."
Visha is a bit mentally broken. She is an excellent student in the military academy with good magic to booth. She was raised in a loving family but she exerts her best in work. Tanya became a figure of adoration for her because as she grows weary in the battlefield and suffers from Ptsd, the little girl takes everything like the "perfect" soldier. But Tanya on the otherhand thinks Visha is too excellent as a subordinate and somehow senses her to be a bit twisted.
@@aidanmullard8508 fun fact, in the LN it's a gift from the gods trying to get more worship. The big guy dosnt take any.... Overt actions in book 1. But that orb is terrifying. It takes every oubce of pain, anguish, and fear from RIPPING that much mana from her body, and turns it into religious extecy(?) and pleasure.
I love how she at first was just sending them back where they can be assigned to a different unit eventually. But since they pushed it she sent to the most unheroic death. There’s no action in the pillar box in the rear, they can’t even fly into battle to die with dignity. I love Tanya.
They changed her reasoning for the anime. In the original version she didn't know pillboxes were dangerous and she thought she was dumping them somewhere safe.
@@terrantabula9847 I liked the change. It makes it seem like the choices she makes and their outcomes are very deliberate. Aka, she's smart. Which really clashes with her personality in the movie. Where she becomes rather stupid, IMO. The Saga of Tanya the Evil is a much more badass name than "The Military Chronicles of a Little Girl" which would be the direct translation.
Though in the novels she had no idea they would die, but assumed this could happen due to them being in the middle of WWI, she did intend to punish them and did send them there, that smile made her look more evil than she was in that situation.
@@TheSpawnfan Tanya couldn't possibly have known that a Francois artillery strike would hit their precise pillbox but I imagine that she was pleased that it WAS hit by artillery so she wouldn't have to worry about them coming back at a later date to mess things up with their impulsiveness and knack for disobeying orders.
0:53 “my only choices are victory or death!” tanya: oh, you asked for it! *unsheathes sword. and later sends them to a pillbox in the rear, where it’s “safe”.
Never stay stuff, like "over my dead body" during a war. In that sense, war simplifies things. Those too weak or too stupid don't even have the opportunity to screech.
I honestly love that they made Tanya more outright villainous. When it's done right, a villain protagonist is so engaging. The idea that she sent them to die for refusing to "follow the rules" really sets the bar for how outrageous her mindset is.
Not Outrageous, pure logic is at it's core - refusal to obey the orders can and will put not only the deaf idiots life in danger, it will also put the lifes of other soilders and entire operation/battle in jeopardy. Disobedience literally leads to death.
@@Irmarinen Yeah but sending them to their deaths in an unprotected box is basically a death sentence. I understand punishment for disobeying orders but this was just extreme.
@@zemox2534 Individuality is forbidden in military. Refusal orders or not, whims and wishes of soilders or not, they enlisted for duty, and army loathes to let go off them - since they are ureliable, they were given duties and were used by military in semi-productive matter, in a place where they will do little damage, don't drag others with their recklesness, and serve as an example of a disobidient soilder who will get punished - if disobeying orders gets you away from fighting (like into logistics), everyone would disobey, and that would be disasterous, as all can imagine. Giving them combat roles would also be bad, like i mentioned it earlier. In conclusion - boring, inactive, low-priority, yet insanely dangerous position was ideal for that, hence, the pillbox.
This is why I refuse to even read the light novel. I felt like they watered her down and made her a generic jp protagonist. She was noted to be much colder and ruthless in the anime
Not only did she/he send them to their inevitable deaths. But she also gave them the most unheroic and un ceremonial deaths they can get, dying while doing nothing... The complete opposite of what they wanted.
The funny thing is, she is totally bluffing here. The manga also shows it. She wanted to punish them by sending them out of combat. Them dying was a happy little accident. A rear pillbox is actually fairly safe. Why? 1. It's in the rear, IE not an active threat. 2. Pillboxes are by definition artillery resistant. They just got hella unlucky and tanya rolled with it.
@@bunnyphoenix2992 yes. Its a massive hunk of concrete and steel. While actual construction can vary in durability and if it can take a direct hit, even flimsier ones usually require a dead on direct hit.
@@phucpham-yummytoasty4610 They're used as rally points in trench systems and as machine-gun nests. As mentioneb above, they wouldn't normally be taken out by artillery. Artillery isn't accurate enough to reliably score direct hits, and even those don't usually take out pillboxes. Basically, these guys got hilariously unlucky, and would otherwise have been stuck there for months doing nothing but playing cards an occasionally blindfiring a MG into an enemy charge.
Man, this is why I love Tanya. It's like watching an insane villain's POV What Tanya did was cruel but right, who would want a soldier that can't obey a commander's order? They were in the middle of a war, no mercy to those who can't follow orders.
Right? Most commanders would have probably followed her initial course of action even if they wanted to stay, but she straight up changed her decision knowing it would heighten their chances of dying. Right principle, extreme execution.
I'm with you @amyell, if you have subordinates that can follow the most simple of orders in the most simple of missions, what can you expect of them in more difficult ones. Better send them to the creator faster than they can themselves
This is where you either hate her or love her There is no in-between Considering him being lenient in his past life got him killed, he has no mercy to give for those who put his life in danger again I’d make the same decision
@@Dead_Weight21 Yep, and i would they were newbies, so they most likely didnt experience the Rhine frontlines too, so eventually when there hope drained as they realised the kind of battle they were expirincing i wiuld send them back, over and over again
@@zarnaku6467 that's not enough... you don't understand the importance of following orders during a battle, imagine being on a stealth mission or taking the anime as an example, one of the few they avoided the front lines and went straight for the backline or the enemies headquarters... the orders are: "avoid/ignore combat unless 100% nessesary and sabotage the enemy main headquarters" and you have these 2 idiots just trying to be heroes or end the war, picking up a fight with whomever they cross on their way, putting your mission at risk from the get go and when you reach the headquarters, instead of a stealth sabotage they just go full bananas and start blowing up shit. You really think just "sending them to the front till they die" is enough? you would really consider having those 2 monkeys in your squat while having to do sensitive style of missions? nah.... no leader in his right mind would put a mission at risk from the get go just to see if the 2 idiots die or start developing fear of war, lets not even talk if it's not just a common mission and instead it's one of those that should you succeed gives you a significant strategic advantage. Tanya did the right thing, got rid of them...some people aren't made for certain jobs, and in the middle of a war someone like tanya who was getting more and more difficult missions, doesn't have the time to deal with "heroes".
@@magnezon1 Yeah no im not reading the novel of your comment about single reaponse, of someone telling me i dont understand something about "heroes". Seriously its like im talking with a rick and morty fan telling me that i cant understand the 5th dimensional humor just because i didnt take theoretical physics
I saw Tanya at Isekai Quartet first before her origin from Youji Senki. They really toned down her personality. This Tanya is badass while in Isekai Quartet, she's cute when she's chibi
Ainz was intimidated by her at first. Though it did get a bit ugly when it came to what you put on chicken. The choices they had were laughably wrong. BBQ sauce, any flavor. Sweet & sour sauce or Tabasco would be my selections.
I don't think what she did here was evil at all. She wanted to dismiss them, but they wanted to stay, yet refused to obey orders. A soldier who obeys no orders is a warrior, not a soldier - and an army consists of soldiers, not individual warriors. Such individuals must be discharged from the army, if said army is to perform well. Refusal of an order will, inevitably, cost the lives of many. Yet, they utterly refused to be discharged and so, they forced Tanya's hand. Sure, they could've gone for a court martial, but that would've taken weeks, if not months, all the while costing more and more lives due to the bravado of two idiots.
What an amazing screwed up way to think. Did you ever actually serve in the miliary? Well I did. As an officer, at that. And the point of this scene was to show what an awful, sadistic and uncaring officer Tanya is. An officer who cares about those under their charge would have explained clearly how acting outside of orders and refusing to follow commands in a combat situation can threaten the mission and get their comrades killed. They would have assigned them a duty within the squad or platoon to both discipline and teach them. They would have made the effort to make them better people and more proficient soldiers, especially if they were already clearly competent warfighters. Instead, Tanya does what a bad officer would do -- transfer the soldiers to a place where their skills would go to waste and, even more, where she knew they would die. That's the act of a sadist, not an officer.
@@Josh-99 I agree on all points but the one about explaining why they should follow orders. Even after she clearly explained to them that the front line has no need for soldiers who disobey direct orders, they both made it worse by directly disobeying more orders. Now I've never been in the military but I'd like to believe that basically spitting in your officers face when they give you such a order would carry sever consequences.
@@dracoslayer16 I had people disobey my orders all the time. Once it even happened while under fire when boarding a freighter to conduct an inspection for contraband in support of the blockade of Saddam Hussein's Iraqi regime. That particular sailor had to needle gun decks for two weeks, but I didn't send him up for Captain's Mast. He also had to explain to me clearly why what he did was wrong; it took him three tries to get it right, but he had plenty of time to think while needle gunning decks. You can lead through fear; it's effective, to a point. But if you want a cohesive unit that will perform well in the worst of situations, you need to lead through inspiration. That's more work, but it's time well spent.
@@Josh-99 you’re forgetting that tanya is a fucking child. No amount of explaining would work against two ignorant people. They would not take her words seriously and they even said it themselves, “why do we have to work under that person?”. They clearly underestimate her and they will not believe any word coming out of her mouth. It’s different when a respectable person says the consequences of one’s action, and a child used for propaganda to say the same thing.
it's kind of harsh that in the anime Tanya knew the bunker was going to be destroyed so she send them there because they didn't obey her orders. But in the manga she was surprised that the bunker got destroyed and she originally send them there because these 2 where over reacting to the point of not just ignoring her orders but also basically being suicidal during the battle. in the Manga she was taken fully by surprised that they where dead, but at the same time she didn't show emotion like she was surprised because this is a war, you got to be ready for the unexpected.
You could also argue that in the anime Tanya didn't know that the bunker would be destroyed but just rolled with it to establish fear since we don't know what was going through her head.
Plus they where already disobeying her when they first met. I assume because they where both Von's, e.i., Nobels that wanted a name for themselves, didn't like the fact they had to listen to a little girl with no nobility. I liked it better in the anime because you see her confront them. Whereas the manga you just get introduced and they refuse to be with her in combat after. And the big difference with both on how you see the other lady's reaction. Whereas the manga she usually sees Tanya as a big softy. In the anime she can't decide which one she is, good or bad.
so which was more accurate to the novel, really? was it the anime or the manga? because from what I know the anime takes material directly from the novel.
@@shijimuhdefinitely the manga They both deviate from the novel and seem totally different but in the novel she did not know that they would die, her intention was to punish them, not kill them She is not evil in the novel, in fact she hates war and her greatest asset is living in a secluded house on a lake while she receives a good check.
Actually she's not so much evil. The reason she put them to the bunker was not to sacrifice them but to avoid them doing the suicide play. And, allow them to discipline their selves. However, she also sees the flaw of the logic since the bunker is an easy target. Tanya has no other desire than to avoid wasting precious HR.
@@user-pi1lb4tf2f one reason i love tanya the evil is that it in a certain way mirrors the distheist view. If God defines good, then good is not objective, but simply a result of the subjective whims of a being that holds power over you. For that reason, an evil person in christianity is not someone that is objectively immoral, but simply someone who defies God. Tanya the evil is not evil due to her/his actions, but rather due to their defiance of Being X. Since Being X is shown to be petty and vindictive, it can be concluding that Being X isn't objectively moral, and thus defying him is not objectively evil. And so I conclude that Tanya is not in fact objectively evil.
@@kaneconqueror6560 Eh that really depends. If there is a being as powerful as "God" as written in many religious texts, who are we humans to even have a "subjective" view? Wouldn't everything that God says be the absolute truth as the creator of basically... everything? Therefore making his word absolute and "objective".
@@HS-ts5wf That argument really boils down to might making right. But if we as humans lack the free will to have a subjective view, then the view I have is the one god intends for me to have and thus is good. Additionally, while god may be powerful, that does not mean that he could not lie about his nature or character, as is seen with Being X.
I love how she have a 3 different version Manga-she doesn't think of humans as important resourcess intead she think of them as shield and baggage Novel-she looks at ppl of what their worth and think nothing of useless ppl and more obsessed of glory Anime-more deceitful and take advantage of other ppl emotions and much better at analysis and always hot tempered
While in manga she clearly thinks of others as less important than herself (hence "I will use them as shields for myself"), she doesn't think of people in THAT bad way. Multiple times she clearly states that soldiers dying is "a waste" (although from her own point of view in rational economics etc. than ethics and humanity). But still. She is not that indifferent to people's lives. And in this scene in manga she didn't want them to die and was actually surprised that they did.
Still can't get enough of this "Karma is a drink best served COLD" Openly disobey your superior more than once as if telling them "it's MY war, not OURS" "Victory or Death" he says, but does that Victory claimed by everyone's effort? Or just YOU taking credits for yourself? The superior wants this useless Soldiers to be dishonorably discharged, but the same mentioned "useless soldiers" says the decision in unacceptable. Because the superior is a Child, so i don't have to follow your orders, right? Alright then, get sent to the rear. Where it's "safe". How deliciously Cold-blooded and logical decision, Tanya. I love that.
Seriously tho, screw joining the army if you can't obey orders. If the moments are more crucial you'd rather really have men who obey than men who deliver.
Right? And she even originally wanted to send them back peacefully. It was only after they refused AND said that they would do it again that they were punished. It's not even a matter of obedience at that point, those soldiers were a menace to everyone around them.
It's kinda funny that Tanya's life story is similar to that of a Soviet WW2 tank commander Nina Bondar'. She was a pilot and was shot down in an uneven dogfight. Then she became a tanker in the 237th tank brigade and was given a battalion (about 30 tanks). Her fighting style was also non-traditional and outright daredevilish. She would often drive the tank herself, and she basically treated her tank like a freaking PLANE. But it worked! She once took out a Pz. IV tank in Slovakia, shooting it while jumping her own T-34-85! She shot the German tank while being mid-air! She got wounded four times as a tanker, many times were the single survivor of her crew, but would never give up. Nina Bondar' and her battalion was often breaking far ahead other units. She also loved to discipline her subordinates, and was insistent on cleaning tanks after each battle or march. And guess what, she had a best female friend in the same unit who was her adjutant.
Hmm. That's unusually specific but you've piqued my interest. For now I suspect this is made-up internet crap but if what you say is true, that would be amazing and a great parallel for Tanya. I'll look into it.
Because it's not an isekai. Isekai is not a genre, just a random term to group a bunch of anime. The same way Inuyasha or Spirited Away are not isekai as well. Youjo Senki is a fantasy, or action-drama
@@gyorgymatenagy3898 isekai= into another world or being transported/reincarnated to another world. That's technically where Tanya gets her prior knowledge like proper training for her recruits (like inclusion of different SF trainings), wars that occurred in earth, etc. so being an isekai is a huge part of it. Besides its even a part of Isekai Quartet so in name and in plot it's totally an isekai.
@@gyorgymatenagy3898 b-but inuyasha and spirited away is technically isekai. They didnt put it into the isekai genre at first because the term 'isekai' is not popular or its just recently made.
Yeah "Isekai" never really became an identified genre until Sword Art Online's popularity exploded on the scene in 2012 (geez!) and similar themed Isekai's flooded the anime production cycle till this day. By definition Inuyasha and Digimon are Isekai's, they just pre-date when the term was used to describe them.
Cameback here years later, I fking love this anime. And I only noticed now that throughout the series vishka never despised tanya despite what she did to those soldiers, she respected tanya out of fear and it's adorable. Also throughout the series she slowly gained Tanya's influence as well as the battalion.
A cruel move, sure, but I don't know if I'd call it evil. If those two were going to chase glory instead of following orders, then they were too dangerous to have around. That's just good strategy; minimize your vulnerabilities. And credit where due, she tried to have them sent home safely, but they went and pushed their luck and paid the price.
Any other commander might have sent them home anyways, but she actually changed her initial plan. LN readers say her intentions were innocent, but I kind of like where the anime portrayal puts her. Earlier in her career, she was willing to kill her student with her own hands. Towards the end of the anime season, she developed a real bond with her battalion. This anime scene shows a bridge between past and present Tanya: still ruthless, but less directly so.
In the LN all we know was they were sent to a pill box there is no mention on what happened to those two after that as Visha only writes that they had been sent to the rear under Tanya’s recommendation as in the LN Tanya does hate insubordination she will not do anything that would kill someone so the rear position if it did get hit would have been her miss calculating and really she was just trying to keep her record clean of casualty’s as well as her own life safe.
@@zacharyhoover5588 probably more it didn't happen in the LN so they just made her more evil by having the two of them die in the backlines with her smiling at the news.
@@zacharyhoover5588 in the anime it’s explicitly stated that she planned from how she responded to Visha to Visha’s reaction. So it was all her plan to see them dead for their insubordination.
I think Tanya is a high-functioning psychopath for these reasons: -In her previous life (and if we take into consideration the LN, in which his boss told him to be wary of the people he fired), he failed to understand the concern for his life, as he could not put himself in the ex-worker's place and understand angry/fearful people can commit crazy acts; -Even though she does start to let her soldiers help and she herself works in team with them, I think it's more of a "I must be loyal thing", not "I want to be loyal", as psychopaths, when they are aware of their limitations, use connections to people in order to get around those limits. In other words, it's like a contract. They protect her. And like the system demands, she protects them; -Also, in the LN, she admits in her previous life, her friends were people she found interesting because of common interests, but little else. And apparently, his grades were quite low. This last one might not look important, but it is proved psychopaths have just as much, if not more, difficulties in academical intelligence, which was a major factor that lead him to choose her previous career. Yes, I know psychopaths usually see themselves above the system, but we can't forget they're also humans. Depending on the person, their interpretations of superiority can be widely diverse. Yes, I am aware she can often explain her reasoning and understand the system, but we've seen she does try to find loopholes every now and then without outright disobeying the rules. -Finally, in the way she fights, even though there's a certain pleasure to it (probably because of the adrenaline of the moment or something), she's very organized and can manage her impulses to work on her favor. I believe psychopaths often train themselves to use their flaws as weapons that they can keep under control. But of course, this is just my opinion. Feel free to disagree and present counter arguments.
I don't know if I understood your comment completely, but i just wanted to tell you that the person she fired, was someone who always came late, was slow at work and in general a bad worker, she was not wrong there, not in the slightest
Also what you described about her and her previous life friends is something completely normal??? It's the only reason my friends are my friends aswell, and I'm absolutely not a psychopath
@@maggot848 I know. I never said the guy didn't deserve to be fired. I just said Tanya was unable to predict how he would react emotionally, even though she was warned that the fired dude could seek revenge, because she was unable to put herself in the guy's place, and theorize a possible emotional response.
@@maggot848 I repeat, the salaryman was warned by his boss that there might be some form of retribution (at least in the LN), and even then, he didn't take it serious. I'm not saying he had to expect being killed, but he should have expected some form of revenge. The fact not even the warning was enough to have him watch his back goes to show he failed to see himself in a situation in which he is a guy with his life ruined looking out for vengeance after feeling wronged.
Reading, i love how people forget that Tanya is not a good person. Whether it's morally correct or not, what she did was an effective example that doesn't need further explanation. She believes in nothing but herself so why would she waste her time disciplining two people that don't follow orders? I like Tanya as a character but that doesn't mean i support her way of doing things. That's what's great about fiction
But she gave them the opportunity to go home which they refused they also said they would disobey orders again which risks the lives of not only themselves but other soldiers and the entire operation and so she gave them the most fitting punishment she sent them to the pillbox where they would die unheroic deaths
Yup. You read the books and she'll literally say things like "I'm going to help them to give myself more meatshields" in her internal monologues. However, she's lawful and only goes with what makes HER look better to make HER life easier.
What i love about Isekei where the protag was murdered before is that i can imagine how they change and if they’ll make the same mistakes that’ll get them killed again.
@@darkpersona1462 you realize that if she could send them to the pillbox then she could just put them on duty also right? They don't have to die. Just put them on duty with some boring task. She isn't a good person and that's fine. The problem is when people come in here tryna stretch to defend her actions
tbh every plan she makes in the series is literally her trying to avoid WW2 because she knows that she is on the nazi side and she knows how that fight goes it's genuinely interesting to see how much of the lesser evil she is willing to choose knowing that it is all for avoiding being a nazi.
@@hatsunemikufanboy since you're talking about her remaking the world she's in, there's something I'd like you to explain to me. I get this is some sort of experiment Being X is performing. But, what happens to our world if it succeeds? Everybody is reincarnated in that word of misery ? Our world is erased and the "World of War" becomes the new official world ? What if our world already ended, and the current world we see in the anime is actually God's second attempt ? And Tanya is the only soul from the previous universe to have been reincarnated since she represented everything that was wrong in the last universe ? And if the experiment breaks her, then this universe is allowed to keep existing ?
@@JabamiLain hmm i think tnya wa reincarnated into the war world a s a test from being X to se if it could inspire genuine faith in tanya effectively proving her dying thoughts wrong. as regards to whether "our" world still exists or not i personally reckon it does since being X is an existence that reincarnates mortal being at the time of their deaths as if it were a natural process of that world
@@hatsunemikufanboy do you think we're going to see it again ? I would very much like to. Maybe we could get some sort of "Crisis on Earth-X" in which Tanya manages to reveal in a convincing way the existance of our world, and convinces Germanny to enter it and start an inter dimensional... what's the most likely approach the empire would take ? They've got magic, yes. But we have, unfortunately, nuclear bombs. And I think Tanya would convince the nation to take the time required to modernize themselves and then start talking about going to other worlds and the implications of it.
Considering things that happened, yeah, breaking formation and going off to do whatever the heck you want can compromise an entire mission and kill hundreds if not thousands depending on how badly you screw things up. She decided to send them home because they didn’t care about other losses on their side, but instead, because they pushed it, she sent them somewhere where they could do as little damage as they could to those around them. Did she do things the best way possible? Not even remotely, and if you’re working by today’s standards, you’d talk with them more and convince them to not be idiots. They weren’t today’s standards, and these men were in a very active conflict. She already makes it clear she doesn’t take time on people like that and has no care for heroics.
Tanya could have easily slashed them both and have her men dig a hole and dump the two in there to rot and die and no one would be allowed to give a damn.
I think the artistic beauty of Tanya's views on rules is how *this* is the way she treats those who defy her...but then she gets angry when she is treated similarly for defying the boss of the universe. Edit: I find it beautiful instead of an annoyance like I normally would, because it brings about a question about her motives against Being X. If it's not about her convictions, then what is it about? It can't be about free will or wanting a cushy life, since Being X doesn't seem to typically interfere with the choices humans make, and the ultimate retirement to work towards is the afterlife (now that she knows God exists and reincarnations stop at some point). The most obvious reasons I can think of for her defying Being X's rules at the expense of comfort would be defiance and pride. TL;DR: Since her usual views, as displayed in scenes like this, don't align with her behavior towards Being X, we get to interpret deeper about why she refuses to acknowledge Being X as God.
The thing with this anime that really keeps me watching is the ethical and moral battle going on. We show the viewer a monster of a protagonist, someone who act on evil scheme, do not hold regrets for what they've done and fully willing to dispose of her subordinate if something doesn't go her own way. Yet that monster is very necessary for the after-life of our species because it is the only thing that is litteraly fighting a god that no longer wish salvation for the non-believers and facing it with its very own flaws because it is just as similar in personality. If Tanya fail the goal we get rid of that monster BUT no after-life for everyone. If tanya suceed we have to witness her murdering disobeying soldiers, abusing recruits, and serving as one of the high ranks under a war rule similar to WW1 Germany. Yet in times we get to appreciate her the more we watch.
Think you misinterpreted the plot. Let me break it down for you. Before getting isekai'd: "F*** these people everyone is beneath me and oh shit I was murdered by some punk ass bitch before god isekai'd me". After getting isekai'd: "Fk these people, everyone is beneath me, f*** god, f*** yo squad, f*** yo plans of annoying me." And that's Tanya the evil in a nutshell
Its kinda ironic that Tanya hates disobedience and yet her entire conflict is that she refused God’s will. Granted, Being X a petty god, influencing a world war inorder to smite her, but what can you do?
Imo, the war was happening anyway bc humans are that way. If you keep careful track, the countries really are responding by themselves, but Being X simply nudges a few personal decisions in order to simultaneously make her the empire's champion and punish her. Since the empire is mostly just responding to the hostile countries who want war mostly bc they fear the empire is getting too strong, and the public is usually pretty faithful, it's as if Being X is answering their prayers and trying to knock down Tanya's personal pride (which btw, would probably doom her eternally bc she obviously would refuse to go to Heaven if it means God is the one letting her in). Being X also made that one guy a champion to balance out Tanya abd be a thorn in her side, but his vengeful daughter is basically just as selfish and prideful as Tanya bc she's a *self-ordained* champion.
@@jonquilgemstone idk I’m getting a pretty big Zeus vibe from this guy. Like he’s basically doping people with his divine enhancements. It’s kinda interesting the parallels. Just like how Tanya spikes her brain with magic meth, X kinda has this almost zealot like effect on people. Like the doctor, the general, Mary Sue, everyone’s coked outa their minds with god’s grace, lol
They should have just done the classic Rommel tactic to disobey orders to not advance of saying "We are not attacking, we're performing armed reconnaissance"
They released a trailer for Season 2 over a year ago and it's been nothing ever since T_T I'm wanting to know if she ever settles her battle with God. You know, The Unfinished Battle with God Syndrome from Valkyrie Profile type stuff.
The crossover that I've been waiting to see ever since I found "Youjo Senki" is finally being written, hallelujah ! I give you, "Pixie of the Hidden Leaf" ! Featuring Tanya Deguracheff in the universe of Naruto. Witness as the Devil of the Rhine takes over as Team 7's prodigous sensei as a means to add it to her curriculum in order to become Hokage, with Kakashi resuming his missions as a ninja without having to worry about testing for a team. Reasons to read it: -She manages to make Sakura useful right at the begining; -Understanding the true gravity of training kids as child soldiers, she tortures, I mean trains, equally her kids to the limit while taking into account their psychological and emotional struggles, even managing to put some humility, for the moment, into Naruto and Sasuke (do not think it's easy to keep it that way though); -It seems the other teams are gonna share a bit more the spotlight with team 7 (especially team 8, one of the reasons being that Hinata's family has unresolved issues with Tanya); -Her mysterious past in that world; -It seems the other nations might also become more proeminent in their participation; -Haku and Zabuza's better treatment; -Her good relationship with an Akatsuki member (the shark looking bounty hunter).
Funny how someone so ruthless is actually a lot more caring then even she is aware, she was bluffing when she reacted like them dying was what she wanted, she really just sent them to the rear to cool off the strike that got them was a lucky hit since strikes like that are likely aimed for logical targets
I don't want Tanya and her Battalion to disappear. I want them to live peacefully after the war, with her becoming Germany's leader, reveal the existance of our world, thus leading to the invention of dimensional travel, giving one final middle finger to Being X.
Yeah, this reminds me of one of Sun Tzu's versus and supposedly what he did to show his king his true intentions. _"If words of command are not clear and distinct, if orders are not thoroughly understood, then the general is to blame. But, if orders are clear and the soldiers nevertheless disobey, then it is the fault of their officers."_ Sun Tzu was ordered by his king to train concubine to perform a maneuver. When he gave the marching orders, the concubines giggled despite giving clear and precise instructions. He then gave the same orders again, but they still laughed. So, Sun Tzu told two of the concubines to step forward. He then decapitated them in front of the court. The rest of the concubine suddenly stepped in line and did exactly as Sun Tzu had ordered.
@@KuDastardly It comes down to the relationship between leaders and subordinates. A more friendly leader would act with more understanding and lighter punishments. Meanwhile a cold leader would act with more logic and harsh punishments. Tanya is definitely cold and cruel, but it's not like she didn't have a reason to get rid of them. She's uncomfortable, but not unreasonable.
There is no Honor on the battlefield. They just say that to get young soldiers eager for battle, where they are used as canon fodder. Thats what my father says. And i say patriotism alone does not feed you, and you owe nothing to a country since you pay your taxes.
@@lolmanboss your father is wise. I shoved patriotism down 2 meters under decades ago. Since my country doesn't give a shyt about me, so i give it the same treatment.
Well, they say they will only go with victory or death despite being dismissed to go home, so we could say they choose death themselves. I fully understand Tanya, disobedient soldiers can send to waste any kind of war tactic or strategy of their superiors. If they dont want to go home, they're choosing death... hell, if I was in Tanya's position I'll have shoot them in the face myself so they dont waste anymore of my time. Her decision was too merciful.
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"My only choices are victory or death!”
Tanya: "So... you've chosen death."
Not to mention she intentionally made 2 vons die like that imagine their batches have got reduced number because of tanya
@@carollo3848 they will be their death if they keep acting like that and disobeying orders imagine two of them go rogue and now the rest of the team is immediately reduced by two then some members of the team now go and try to rescue them or back them up putting everyone in danger either replace them immediately or have these ticking time bombs strap to your team
They succeeded in destroying the artillery, but they disobeyed orders. But imagine if they didn't, and they got blown up to bits. The whole infantry would have 2 less firepower that would have made the task at hand difficult or impossible.
"poor choice of words"
Everyone was thinking that I bet 😂
"You've practically admitted that you send those men to their deaths knowingly. I find that fascinating and I will follow you to the ends of the earth."
Visha is a bit mentally broken. She is an excellent student in the military academy with good magic to booth. She was raised in a loving family but she exerts her best in work. Tanya became a figure of adoration for her because as she grows weary in the battlefield and suffers from Ptsd, the little girl takes everything like the "perfect" soldier. But Tanya on the otherhand thinks Visha is too excellent as a subordinate and somehow senses her to be a bit twisted.
I also love entity X just for forcing her to prey every time she wants a power boost, it's funny.
@@aidanmullard8508 That was the point and it's not a mere power boost, it messes up her psyche hence her sadistic outburst.
@@aidanmullard8508 pray* prey is something you hunt.
@@aidanmullard8508 fun fact, in the LN it's a gift from the gods trying to get more worship. The big guy dosnt take any.... Overt actions in book 1. But that orb is terrifying. It takes every oubce of pain, anguish, and fear from RIPPING that much mana from her body, and turns it into religious extecy(?) and pleasure.
I love how she at first was just sending them back where they can be assigned to a different unit eventually. But since they pushed it she sent to the most unheroic death. There’s no action in the pillar box in the rear, they can’t even fly into battle to die with dignity. I love Tanya.
They also could die easily since pill boxes are usually bombed
They changed her reasoning for the anime. In the original version she didn't know pillboxes were dangerous and she thought she was dumping them somewhere safe.
@@terrantabula9847 the change was made for the better
@@pumpkingamebox The change was silly, just like how they named the show 'The Saga of Tanya the Evil' when she's at best an anti-hero.
@@terrantabula9847 I liked the change. It makes it seem like the choices she makes and their outcomes are very deliberate. Aka, she's smart.
Which really clashes with her personality in the movie. Where she becomes rather stupid, IMO.
The Saga of Tanya the Evil is a much more badass name than "The Military Chronicles of a Little Girl" which would be the direct translation.
Pfft, I'm sorry but that was funny. She gave them exactly what they wanted while making an example of them
And saving two lives of people likely more competent.
Though in the novels she had no idea they would die, but assumed this could happen due to them being in the middle of WWI, she did intend to punish them and did send them there, that smile made her look more evil than she was in that situation.
they got promoted 2 ranks in a short period of time, and defended the motherland with their blood, JUST AS THEY WANTED.
@@atlasravenwood6467 They disobeyed orders not only from her but from her superiors.
@@TheSpawnfan Tanya couldn't possibly have known that a Francois artillery strike would hit their precise pillbox but I imagine that she was pleased that it WAS hit by artillery so she wouldn't have to worry about them coming back at a later date to mess things up with their impulsiveness and knack for disobeying orders.
0:53 “my only choices are victory or death!”
tanya: oh, you asked for it! *unsheathes sword. and later sends them to a pillbox in the rear, where it’s “safe”.
It was the "safest" place. How could it happen?!
"Then you have chosen... death"
Never stay stuff, like "over my dead body" during a war. In that sense, war simplifies things. Those too weak or too stupid don't even have the opportunity to screech.
@@DarkAdonisVyers Do not die for your country. Make your enemies die for theirs.
They got fragged.
I honestly love that they made Tanya more outright villainous. When it's done right, a villain protagonist is so engaging. The idea that she sent them to die for refusing to "follow the rules" really sets the bar for how outrageous her mindset is.
Not Outrageous, pure logic is at it's core - refusal to obey the orders can and will put not only the deaf idiots life in danger, it will also put the lifes of other soilders and entire operation/battle in jeopardy. Disobedience literally leads to death.
@@Irmarinen Yeah but sending them to their deaths in an unprotected box is basically a death sentence. I understand punishment for disobeying orders but this was just extreme.
@@zemox2534 Individuality is forbidden in military. Refusal orders or not, whims and wishes of soilders or not, they enlisted for duty, and army loathes to let go off them - since they are ureliable, they were given duties and were used by military in semi-productive matter, in a place where they will do little damage, don't drag others with their recklesness, and serve as an example of a disobidient soilder who will get punished - if disobeying orders gets you away from fighting (like into logistics), everyone would disobey, and that would be disasterous, as all can imagine. Giving them combat roles would also be bad, like i mentioned it earlier. In conclusion - boring, inactive, low-priority, yet insanely dangerous position was ideal for that, hence, the pillbox.
This is why I refuse to even read the light novel. I felt like they watered her down and made her a generic jp protagonist. She was noted to be much colder and ruthless in the anime
Not only did she/he send them to their inevitable deaths. But she also gave them the most unheroic and un ceremonial deaths they can get, dying while doing nothing... The complete opposite of what they wanted.
The funny thing is, she is totally bluffing here. The manga also shows it. She wanted to punish them by sending them out of combat. Them dying was a happy little accident. A rear pillbox is actually fairly safe. Why? 1. It's in the rear, IE not an active threat. 2. Pillboxes are by definition artillery resistant. They just got hella unlucky and tanya rolled with it.
Wait so those boxes are artillery resistant?
@@bunnyphoenix2992 yes. Its a massive hunk of concrete and steel. While actual construction can vary in durability and if it can take a direct hit, even flimsier ones usually require a dead on direct hit.
@@himedo1512 wow that really is unlucky
@@bunnyphoenix2992 yeah, if pillbox are that useless, why bother?
@@phucpham-yummytoasty4610 They're used as rally points in trench systems and as machine-gun nests. As mentioneb above, they wouldn't normally be taken out by artillery. Artillery isn't accurate enough to reliably score direct hits, and even those don't usually take out pillboxes. Basically, these guys got hilariously unlucky, and would otherwise have been stuck there for months doing nothing but playing cards an occasionally blindfiring a MG into an enemy charge.
"My only choices are victory or death!"
Well, if you insist...
Fun fact: Tanya's evil smile and laugh is a side effect of the Panzer Chocolate she's eating constantly.
Does it have cocaine?
@@AViewCado69420 more like meth
@@AViewCado69420 it's amphetamine. aka pervitin
Might be laced with amphetamines, all anime characters like that try to do that to look evil and sadistic
I don't understand. Whats a panzer choco? Kinda wanna try haha
Man, this is why I love Tanya. It's like watching an insane villain's POV
What Tanya did was cruel but right, who would want a soldier that can't obey a commander's order? They were in the middle of a war, no mercy to those who can't follow orders.
Right? Most commanders would have probably followed her initial course of action even if they wanted to stay, but she straight up changed her decision knowing it would heighten their chances of dying. Right principle, extreme execution.
I'm with you @amyell, if you have subordinates that can follow the most simple of orders in the most simple of missions, what can you expect of them in more difficult ones. Better send them to the creator faster than they can themselves
This is where you either hate her or love her
There is no in-between
Considering him being lenient in his past life got him killed, he has no mercy to give for those who put his life in danger again
I’d make the same decision
I mean i wouldnt throw them in a pillbox since my thinking isnt on the same level of sadistic i would just keep throwing them in the frontlines
@@zarnaku6467 isn't that what they want though? To be in the frontlines?
@@Dead_Weight21 Yep, and i would they were newbies, so they most likely didnt experience the Rhine frontlines too, so eventually when there hope drained as they realised the kind of battle they were expirincing i wiuld send them back, over and over again
@@zarnaku6467 that's not enough... you don't understand the importance of following orders during a battle, imagine being on a stealth mission or taking the anime as an example, one of the few they avoided the front lines and went straight for the backline or the enemies headquarters... the orders are: "avoid/ignore combat unless 100% nessesary and sabotage the enemy main headquarters" and you have these 2 idiots just trying to be heroes or end the war, picking up a fight with whomever they cross on their way, putting your mission at risk from the get go and when you reach the headquarters, instead of a stealth sabotage they just go full bananas and start blowing up shit.
You really think just "sending them to the front till they die" is enough? you would really consider having those 2 monkeys in your squat while having to do sensitive style of missions? nah.... no leader in his right mind would put a mission at risk from the get go just to see if the 2 idiots die or start developing fear of war, lets not even talk if it's not just a common mission and instead it's one of those that should you succeed gives you a significant strategic advantage.
Tanya did the right thing, got rid of them...some people aren't made for certain jobs, and in the middle of a war someone like tanya who was getting more and more difficult missions, doesn't have the time to deal with "heroes".
@@magnezon1 Yeah no im not reading the novel of your comment about single reaponse, of someone telling me i dont understand something about "heroes". Seriously its like im talking with a rick and morty fan telling me that i cant understand the 5th dimensional humor just because i didnt take theoretical physics
I saw Tanya at Isekai Quartet first before her origin from Youji Senki. They really toned down her personality.
This Tanya is badass while in Isekai Quartet, she's cute when she's chibi
She's prolly like that because there is no need to be ruthless cause she's safe from war and away from being x
@@aevo1526 You are never free from Being X.
And I like her interaction with Ainz.
@@TheTsar69 Guess that's true considering Aqua and Eris lol
Ainz was intimidated by her at first. Though it did get a bit ugly when it came to what you put on chicken.
The choices they had were laughably wrong.
BBQ sauce, any flavor. Sweet & sour sauce or Tabasco would be my selections.
Tanya hates people not following orders and/or laws XD
@Alex Luca
She send them to the back line... XD
She wants to end that war faster and efficiently, disobeying orders not only goes against that but puts the Platoon at risk.
And irrational people
Lawful Evil
@@lornastemen2472
Evil?! She is NOT malevolent!
She simply IS!
I don't think what she did here was evil at all. She wanted to dismiss them, but they wanted to stay, yet refused to obey orders. A soldier who obeys no orders is a warrior, not a soldier - and an army consists of soldiers, not individual warriors. Such individuals must be discharged from the army, if said army is to perform well. Refusal of an order will, inevitably, cost the lives of many. Yet, they utterly refused to be discharged and so, they forced Tanya's hand. Sure, they could've gone for a court martial, but that would've taken weeks, if not months, all the while costing more and more lives due to the bravado of two idiots.
Failure to actually obey orders back in the Civil War and stuff like this would be the commander would shoot the officers or soldiers on site
What an amazing screwed up way to think. Did you ever actually serve in the miliary?
Well I did. As an officer, at that. And the point of this scene was to show what an awful, sadistic and uncaring officer Tanya is. An officer who cares about those under their charge would have explained clearly how acting outside of orders and refusing to follow commands in a combat situation can threaten the mission and get their comrades killed. They would have assigned them a duty within the squad or platoon to both discipline and teach them. They would have made the effort to make them better people and more proficient soldiers, especially if they were already clearly competent warfighters.
Instead, Tanya does what a bad officer would do -- transfer the soldiers to a place where their skills would go to waste and, even more, where she knew they would die. That's the act of a sadist, not an officer.
@@Josh-99 I agree on all points but the one about explaining why they should follow orders. Even after she clearly explained to them that the front line has no need for soldiers who disobey direct orders, they both made it worse by directly disobeying more orders. Now I've never been in the military but I'd like to believe that basically spitting in your officers face when they give you such a order would carry sever consequences.
@@dracoslayer16 I had people disobey my orders all the time. Once it even happened while under fire when boarding a freighter to conduct an inspection for contraband in support of the blockade of Saddam Hussein's Iraqi regime.
That particular sailor had to needle gun decks for two weeks, but I didn't send him up for Captain's Mast. He also had to explain to me clearly why what he did was wrong; it took him three tries to get it right, but he had plenty of time to think while needle gunning decks.
You can lead through fear; it's effective, to a point. But if you want a cohesive unit that will perform well in the worst of situations, you need to lead through inspiration. That's more work, but it's time well spent.
@@Josh-99 you’re forgetting that tanya is a fucking child. No amount of explaining would work against two ignorant people. They would not take her words seriously and they even said it themselves, “why do we have to work under that person?”. They clearly underestimate her and they will not believe any word coming out of her mouth. It’s different when a respectable person says the consequences of one’s action, and a child used for propaganda to say the same thing.
That outtro was terrible and way too loud.
I dont think its terrible but compared to the video it was kinda loud. Nonetheless it was a good video tho
@@soaringhedgehog8341 I agree. It's WAY TOO LOUD.
Thanks for the warning
agreed, it was way too loud, annoyingly even
it's kind of harsh that in the anime Tanya knew the bunker was going to be destroyed so she send them there because they didn't obey her orders.
But in the manga she was surprised that the bunker got destroyed and she originally send them there because these 2 where over reacting to the point of not just ignoring her orders but also basically being suicidal during the battle.
in the Manga she was taken fully by surprised that they where dead, but at the same time she didn't show emotion like she was surprised because this is a war, you got to be ready for the unexpected.
You could also argue that in the anime Tanya didn't know that the bunker would be destroyed but just rolled with it to establish fear since we don't know what was going through her head.
Plus they where already disobeying her when they first met. I assume because they where both Von's, e.i., Nobels that wanted a name for themselves, didn't like the fact they had to listen to a little girl with no nobility. I liked it better in the anime because you see her confront them. Whereas the manga you just get introduced and they refuse to be with her in combat after. And the big difference with both on how you see the other lady's reaction. Whereas the manga she usually sees Tanya as a big softy. In the anime she can't decide which one she is, good or bad.
so which was more accurate to the novel, really? was it the anime or the manga? because from what I know the anime takes material directly from the novel.
@@shijimuhdefinitely the manga
They both deviate from the novel and seem totally different but in the novel she did not know that they would die, her intention was to punish them, not kill them
She is not evil in the novel, in fact she hates war and her greatest asset is living in a secluded house on a lake while she receives a good check.
2:01 I love that scene where she gets that evil grin and her eyes glare at the screen.
me loving Tanya's crazy is probably y I love honkai impact 3rd's herrsher of sentience
Didn't expect a honkai comment on here, but I love both of their crazy smiles
Just like sin mal's smile
I just thought of this a few days ago but imagine if fu hua’s va was the same va as tanya aka aoi yuuki.. dmn
saameee! Herrsher of Sentience is my main/best character in the game
@Seelecon hersher of sentience is crazy smiles and have crazy expressions like tanya
She’s a goddam genius!
Okay, as fucked up and evil as she is, Tanya's not really ever "wrong" with her orders.
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Love it.
That situation was not really about if its wrong or right. She just did what was logical to her
Actually she's not so much evil. The reason she put them to the bunker was not to sacrifice them but to avoid them doing the suicide play. And, allow them to discipline their selves. However, she also sees the flaw of the logic since the bunker is an easy target. Tanya has no other desire than to avoid wasting precious HR.
@@user-pi1lb4tf2f one reason i love tanya the evil is that it in a certain way mirrors the distheist view. If God defines good, then good is not objective, but simply a result of the subjective whims of a being that holds power over you. For that reason, an evil person in christianity is not someone that is objectively immoral, but simply someone who defies God. Tanya the evil is not evil due to her/his actions, but rather due to their defiance of Being X. Since Being X is shown to be petty and vindictive, it can be concluding that Being X isn't objectively moral, and thus defying him is not objectively evil. And so I conclude that Tanya is not in fact objectively evil.
@@kaneconqueror6560 Eh that really depends. If there is a being as powerful as "God" as written in many religious texts, who are we humans to even have a "subjective" view? Wouldn't everything that God says be the absolute truth as the creator of basically... everything? Therefore making his word absolute and "objective".
@@HS-ts5wf That argument really boils down to might making right. But if we as humans lack the free will to have a subjective view, then the view I have is the one god intends for me to have and thus is good. Additionally, while god may be powerful, that does not mean that he could not lie about his nature or character, as is seen with Being X.
Men, I wish I don't marry that type of girl
ahaha
Me: Jokes on you, I'm into that shit!
Also Me: **dies**
😂
You mean a child??
That's not a girl but a 30 years old emotionless geezer isekai'd in a child's body. XD
I love how she have a 3 different version
Manga-she doesn't think of humans as important resourcess intead she think of them as shield and baggage
Novel-she looks at ppl of what their worth and think nothing of useless ppl and more obsessed of glory
Anime-more deceitful and take advantage of other ppl emotions and much better at analysis and always hot tempered
While in manga she clearly thinks of others as less important than herself (hence "I will use them as shields for myself"), she doesn't think of people in THAT bad way. Multiple times she clearly states that soldiers dying is "a waste" (although from her own point of view in rational economics etc. than ethics and humanity). But still. She is not that indifferent to people's lives.
And in this scene in manga she didn't want them to die and was actually surprised that they did.
@@Forien She think like Imperial Guard officers. Soldier was send to die but sure she will spend well.
Still can't get enough of this "Karma is a drink best served COLD"
Openly disobey your superior more than once as if telling them "it's MY war, not OURS"
"Victory or Death" he says, but does that Victory claimed by everyone's effort? Or just YOU taking credits for yourself?
The superior wants this useless Soldiers to be dishonorably discharged, but the same mentioned "useless soldiers" says the decision in unacceptable. Because the superior is a Child, so i don't have to follow your orders, right?
Alright then, get sent to the rear. Where it's "safe".
How deliciously Cold-blooded and logical decision, Tanya. I love that.
Seriously tho, screw joining the army if you can't obey orders. If the moments are more crucial you'd rather really have men who obey than men who deliver.
Right? And she even originally wanted to send them back peacefully.
It was only after they refused AND said that they would do it again that they were punished. It's not even a matter of obedience at that point, those soldiers were a menace to everyone around them.
It's kinda funny that Tanya's life story is similar to that of a Soviet WW2 tank commander Nina Bondar'. She was a pilot and was shot down in an uneven dogfight. Then she became a tanker in the 237th tank brigade and was given a battalion (about 30 tanks). Her fighting style was also non-traditional and outright daredevilish. She would often drive the tank herself, and she basically treated her tank like a freaking PLANE. But it worked! She once took out a Pz. IV tank in Slovakia, shooting it while jumping her own T-34-85! She shot the German tank while being mid-air! She got wounded four times as a tanker, many times were the single survivor of her crew, but would never give up.
Nina Bondar' and her battalion was often breaking far ahead other units. She also loved to discipline her subordinates, and was insistent on cleaning tanks after each battle or march. And guess what, she had a best female friend in the same unit who was her adjutant.
Hmm. That's unusually specific but you've piqued my interest. For now I suspect this is made-up internet crap but if what you say is true, that would be amazing and a great parallel for Tanya. I'll look into it.
Youjo senki is so good you just forgot its another isekai anime
Fact
Because it's not an isekai. Isekai is not a genre, just a random term to group a bunch of anime. The same way Inuyasha or Spirited Away are not isekai as well. Youjo Senki is a fantasy, or action-drama
@@gyorgymatenagy3898 isekai= into another world or being transported/reincarnated to another world. That's technically where Tanya gets her prior knowledge like proper training for her recruits (like inclusion of different SF trainings), wars that occurred in earth, etc. so being an isekai is a huge part of it. Besides its even a part of Isekai Quartet so in name and in plot it's totally an isekai.
@@gyorgymatenagy3898 b-but inuyasha and spirited away is technically isekai. They didnt put it into the isekai genre at first because the term 'isekai' is not popular or its just recently made.
Yeah "Isekai" never really became an identified genre until Sword Art Online's popularity exploded on the scene in 2012 (geez!) and similar themed Isekai's flooded the anime production cycle till this day.
By definition Inuyasha and Digimon are Isekai's, they just pre-date when the term was used to describe them.
Cameback here years later, I fking love this anime. And I only noticed now that throughout the series vishka never despised tanya despite what she did to those soldiers, she respected tanya out of fear and it's adorable. Also throughout the series she slowly gained Tanya's influence as well as the battalion.
well... they DID want to die... what's a girl to do in that situation...
I love Visha's "oh shit; yeah, they just fucked up" expression.
This was the exact moment i fell in love with the character....she was a beast in sheep costume.
A cruel move, sure, but I don't know if I'd call it evil. If those two were going to chase glory instead of following orders, then they were too dangerous to have around. That's just good strategy; minimize your vulnerabilities. And credit where due, she tried to have them sent home safely, but they went and pushed their luck and paid the price.
Any other commander might have sent them home anyways, but she actually changed her initial plan. LN readers say her intentions were innocent, but I kind of like where the anime portrayal puts her.
Earlier in her career, she was willing to kill her student with her own hands. Towards the end of the anime season, she developed a real bond with her battalion.
This anime scene shows a bridge between past and present Tanya: still ruthless, but less directly so.
She could've just put them on duty with some boring task just like she did when she put them on duty in the pillbox
She's evil. That's fine
In the LN all we know was they were sent to a pill box there is no mention on what happened to those two after that as Visha only writes that they had been sent to the rear under Tanya’s recommendation as in the LN Tanya does hate insubordination she will not do anything that would kill someone so the rear position if it did get hit would have been her miss calculating and really she was just trying to keep her record clean of casualty’s as well as her own life safe.
the anime makes Tanya look more evil in general then she really is. Prob the lack of a lot of internal diolog.
@@zacharyhoover5588 probably more it didn't happen in the LN so they just made her more evil by having the two of them die in the backlines with her smiling at the news.
@@zacharyhoover5588 in the anime it’s explicitly stated that she planned from how she responded to Visha to Visha’s reaction. So it was all her plan to see them dead for their insubordination.
I dont even remeber this part in the manga
They got themselves into this sh*t!?!!😑
Me enjoying the video: 👁👄👁
The outro: 🔊!🚨🔊!📣🔊!
Yes she knew, don't piss her off. Now they die with no glory and disappear into obscurity.
Well, she’s right tho. War is no place for disobeying the command. Stupid ideology about glory which is death.
I think Tanya is a high-functioning psychopath for these reasons:
-In her previous life (and if we take into consideration the LN, in which his boss told him to be wary of the people he fired), he failed to understand the concern for his life, as he could not put himself in the ex-worker's place and understand angry/fearful people can commit crazy acts;
-Even though she does start to let her soldiers help and she herself works in team with them, I think it's more of a "I must be loyal thing", not "I want to be loyal", as psychopaths, when they are aware of their limitations, use connections to people in order to get around those limits. In other words, it's like a contract. They protect her. And like the system demands, she protects them;
-Also, in the LN, she admits in her previous life, her friends were people she found interesting because of common interests, but little else. And apparently, his grades were quite low. This last one might not look important, but it is proved psychopaths have just as much, if not more, difficulties in academical intelligence, which was a major factor that lead him to choose her previous career. Yes, I know psychopaths usually see themselves above the system, but we can't forget they're also humans. Depending on the person, their interpretations of superiority can be widely diverse. Yes, I am aware she can often explain her reasoning and understand the system, but we've seen she does try to find loopholes every now and then without outright disobeying the rules.
-Finally, in the way she fights, even though there's a certain pleasure to it (probably because of the adrenaline of the moment or something), she's very organized and can manage her impulses to work on her favor. I believe psychopaths often train themselves to use their flaws as weapons that they can keep under control.
But of course, this is just my opinion. Feel free to disagree and present counter arguments.
I don't know if I understood your comment completely, but i just wanted to tell you that the person she fired, was someone who always came late, was slow at work and in general a bad worker, she was not wrong there, not in the slightest
Also what you described about her and her previous life friends is something completely normal??? It's the only reason my friends are my friends aswell, and I'm absolutely not a psychopath
@@maggot848 I know. I never said the guy didn't deserve to be fired. I just said Tanya was unable to predict how he would react emotionally, even though she was warned that the fired dude could seek revenge, because she was unable to put herself in the guy's place, and theorize a possible emotional response.
@@JabamiLain Most people wouldn't think about something like that
@@maggot848 I repeat, the salaryman was warned by his boss that there might be some form of retribution (at least in the LN), and even then, he didn't take it serious. I'm not saying he had to expect being killed, but he should have expected some form of revenge. The fact not even the warning was enough to have him watch his back goes to show he failed to see himself in a situation in which he is a guy with his life ruined looking out for vengeance after feeling wronged.
Reading, i love how people forget that Tanya is not a good person. Whether it's morally correct or not, what she did was an effective example that doesn't need further explanation. She believes in nothing but herself so why would she waste her time disciplining two people that don't follow orders? I like Tanya as a character but that doesn't mean i support her way of doing things. That's what's great about fiction
But she gave them the opportunity to go home which they refused they also said they would disobey orders again which risks the lives of not only themselves but other soldiers and the entire operation and so she gave them the most fitting punishment she sent them to the pillbox where they would die unheroic deaths
@@darkpersona1462 still KIA lol , rather than going on train then get air strike lol
Yup. You read the books and she'll literally say things like "I'm going to help them to give myself more meatshields" in her internal monologues.
However, she's lawful and only goes with what makes HER look better to make HER life easier.
What i love about Isekei where the protag was murdered before is that i can imagine how they change and if they’ll make the same mistakes that’ll get them killed again.
@@darkpersona1462 you realize that if she could send them to the pillbox then she could just put them on duty also right?
They don't have to die. Just put them on duty with some boring task.
She isn't a good person and that's fine. The problem is when people come in here tryna stretch to defend her actions
Everyone arguing Tanya's moral compass and over here like "I'm very positive Tanya becomes Evil Loli Hitler"
More like loli Bismark.
tbh every plan she makes in the series is literally her trying to avoid WW2 because she knows that she is on the nazi side and she knows how that fight goes it's genuinely interesting to see how much of the lesser evil she is willing to choose knowing that it is all for avoiding being a nazi.
@@hatsunemikufanboy since you're talking about her remaking the world she's in, there's something I'd like you to explain to me.
I get this is some sort of experiment Being X is performing. But, what happens to our world if it succeeds? Everybody is reincarnated in that word of misery ? Our world is erased and the "World of War" becomes the new official world ? What if our world already ended, and the current world we see in the anime is actually God's second attempt ? And Tanya is the only soul from the previous universe to have been reincarnated since she represented everything that was wrong in the last universe ? And if the experiment breaks her, then this universe is allowed to keep existing ?
@@JabamiLain hmm i think tnya wa reincarnated into the war world a s a test from being X to se if it could inspire genuine faith in tanya effectively proving her dying thoughts wrong. as regards to whether "our" world still exists or not i personally reckon it does since being X is an existence that reincarnates mortal being at the time of their deaths as if it were a natural process of that world
@@hatsunemikufanboy do you think we're going to see it again ? I would very much like to. Maybe we could get some sort of "Crisis on Earth-X" in which Tanya manages to reveal in a convincing way the existance of our world, and convinces Germanny to enter it and start an inter dimensional... what's the most likely approach the empire would take ? They've got magic, yes. But we have, unfortunately, nuclear bombs. And I think Tanya would convince the nation to take the time required to modernize themselves and then start talking about going to other worlds and the implications of it.
Considering things that happened, yeah, breaking formation and going off to do whatever the heck you want can compromise an entire mission and kill hundreds if not thousands depending on how badly you screw things up.
She decided to send them home because they didn’t care about other losses on their side, but instead, because they pushed it, she sent them somewhere where they could do as little damage as they could to those around them.
Did she do things the best way possible? Not even remotely, and if you’re working by today’s standards, you’d talk with them more and convince them to not be idiots.
They weren’t today’s standards, and these men were in a very active conflict. She already makes it clear she doesn’t take time on people like that and has no care for heroics.
Sooner or later though these are the people you turn into bullets and shoot at your enemies. >.
Im pretty sure that's not how it was during WWI or WWII either lmao
Tanya could have easily slashed them both and have her men dig a hole and dump the two in there to rot and die and no one would be allowed to give a damn.
I wasn’t sure if I liked this series when I first started it…
Gave it another shot and now I’m waiting for the next release!
If you understand that you arent watching a good guy, you would like it.
She's such a strong leader, wonderful.
これって異世界人として野砲の正しい使い方を理解していたからトーチカに飛ばしたのか、野砲に関するドクトリンがこの世界でも確立されていることが前提で砲撃の対象になると考え得るトーチカを選んで飛ばしたのかどっちなんだろう。
Pill boxes are the perfect artillery targets.
Years of command and conquer have taught me that the hard way.
More fortification
The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.
George S. Patton
I was laughing through the entire series it is hilarious.
tbh i think it's 100% intentional in several cases, at least I do it too while reading some passages of the LNs
I can't wait to see season 2❤❤❤
Is it really gonna happen? If so I hope it looks and feels the same as this!
Rule number 1 for working with Tanya - Don't break the rule.
I think the artistic beauty of Tanya's views on rules is how *this* is the way she treats those who defy her...but then she gets angry when she is treated similarly for defying the boss of the universe.
Edit: I find it beautiful instead of an annoyance like I normally would, because it brings about a question about her motives against Being X. If it's not about her convictions, then what is it about? It can't be about free will or wanting a cushy life, since Being X doesn't seem to typically interfere with the choices humans make, and the ultimate retirement to work towards is the afterlife (now that she knows God exists and reincarnations stop at some point). The most obvious reasons I can think of for her defying Being X's rules at the expense of comfort would be defiance and pride.
TL;DR: Since her usual views, as displayed in scenes like this, don't align with her behavior towards Being X, we get to interpret deeper about why she refuses to acknowledge Being X as God.
Absolutely savage.
“my only choices is victory or death”
“then die.”
"My only options are victory or death!"
Tanya: "Death, then."
He didn't say, "you Republic bastards", he said, "you Republican bastards".
He knew, she knew, we all knew.
Getting assigned to a pillbox is worse than being sent to the frontlines
Her voice is so threatening😨
The thing with this anime that really keeps me watching is the ethical and moral battle going on. We show the viewer a monster of a protagonist, someone who act on evil scheme, do not hold regrets for what they've done and fully willing to dispose of her subordinate if something doesn't go her own way. Yet that monster is very necessary for the after-life of our species because it is the only thing that is litteraly fighting a god that no longer wish salvation for the non-believers and facing it with its very own flaws because it is just as similar in personality. If Tanya fail the goal we get rid of that monster BUT no after-life for everyone. If tanya suceed we have to witness her murdering disobeying soldiers, abusing recruits, and serving as one of the high ranks under a war rule similar to WW1 Germany. Yet in times we get to appreciate her the more we watch.
Think you misinterpreted the plot.
Let me break it down for you.
Before getting isekai'd: "F*** these people everyone is beneath me and oh shit I was murdered by some punk ass bitch before god isekai'd me".
After getting isekai'd: "Fk these people, everyone is beneath me, f*** god, f*** yo squad, f*** yo plans of annoying me."
And that's Tanya the evil in a nutshell
Tanya forever best girl
Don't piss off the loli
Insta 2 rank promotion for those two! She is so caring about her people.
2:03 i love the smile and the eye glare and the music fit so perfect I can’t wait for s2
"I'll tell you where they're not:
*SAFE* "
You < dirt < worm inside dirt < Tanya's stool < Being X < Tanya
Any question?
Tanya has a "stool"!? XD
@@cjytp1660 Her small womanly stool.
Mr. Popo: *cracks a smile* I like you.
Honestly this is the best isekai ever made
I adore Tanya as much as I admire Grand Admiral Thrawn...
0:01 me in every political debate
Its kinda ironic that Tanya hates disobedience and yet her entire conflict is that she refused God’s will. Granted, Being X a petty god, influencing a world war inorder to smite her, but what can you do?
Imo, the war was happening anyway bc humans are that way. If you keep careful track, the countries really are responding by themselves, but Being X simply nudges a few personal decisions in order to simultaneously make her the empire's champion and punish her. Since the empire is mostly just responding to the hostile countries who want war mostly bc they fear the empire is getting too strong, and the public is usually pretty faithful, it's as if Being X is answering their prayers and trying to knock down Tanya's personal pride (which btw, would probably doom her eternally bc she obviously would refuse to go to Heaven if it means God is the one letting her in).
Being X also made that one guy a champion to balance out Tanya abd be a thorn in her side, but his vengeful daughter is basically just as selfish and prideful as Tanya bc she's a *self-ordained* champion.
@@jonquilgemstone idk I’m getting a pretty big Zeus vibe from this guy. Like he’s basically doping people with his divine enhancements. It’s kinda interesting the parallels. Just like how Tanya spikes her brain with magic meth, X kinda has this almost zealot like effect on people. Like the doctor, the general, Mary Sue, everyone’s coked outa their minds with god’s grace, lol
Tanya is everything I aspire to be. There, I said it !
best scene in that season. second only to when she goes on the rant to the enemy general about a visa
They should have just done the classic Rommel tactic to disobey orders to not advance of saying "We are not attacking, we're performing armed reconnaissance"
And thats what got me hooked into the show. A hyper intelligent cold and ruthless military loli commander
You mean LOLI?
They released a trailer for Season 2 over a year ago and it's been nothing ever since T_T I'm wanting to know if she ever settles her battle with God. You know, The Unfinished Battle with God Syndrome from Valkyrie Profile type stuff.
In Military, Rules & Orders are Absolute.
I LOVE TANYA!
Praise the Sun Deer, Sleep the Yawn Deer.
If zoro lost in youjo senki world
Its be a baddas moments
the sudden loud music in the end shocked me.. would appreciate if you adjust the volume to match the video next time.. thank you
The crossover that I've been waiting to see ever since I found "Youjo Senki" is finally being written, hallelujah ! I give you, "Pixie of the Hidden Leaf" ! Featuring Tanya Deguracheff in the universe of Naruto. Witness as the Devil of the Rhine takes over as Team 7's prodigous sensei as a means to add it to her curriculum in order to become Hokage, with Kakashi resuming his missions as a ninja without having to worry about testing for a team.
Reasons to read it:
-She manages to make Sakura useful right at the begining;
-Understanding the true gravity of training kids as child soldiers, she tortures, I mean trains, equally her kids to the limit while taking into account their psychological and emotional struggles, even managing to put some humility, for the moment, into Naruto and Sasuke (do not think it's easy to keep it that way though);
-It seems the other teams are gonna share a bit more the spotlight with team 7 (especially team 8, one of the reasons being that Hinata's family has unresolved issues with Tanya);
-Her mysterious past in that world;
-It seems the other nations might also become more proeminent in their participation;
-Haku and Zabuza's better treatment;
-Her good relationship with an Akatsuki member (the shark looking bounty hunter).
Funny how someone so ruthless is actually a lot more caring then even she is aware, she was bluffing when she reacted like them dying was what she wanted, she really just sent them to the rear to cool off the strike that got them was a lucky hit since strikes like that are likely aimed for logical targets
Well she did try to give them a chance at least
She did
Demon loli in magical WWI Germany. How much better can this get?
“Good Soldiers Follow Orders”
I mean, being NCO.
During state of war, I’m not surprised. I’m not sure if I wouldn’t do the same as Tanya
Damn, she really looks different from isekai quartet. She's scary
What do expect from the anime with evil in the title
I don't want Tanya and her Battalion to disappear. I want them to live peacefully after the war, with her becoming Germany's leader, reveal the existance of our world, thus leading to the invention of dimensional travel, giving one final middle finger to Being X.
Dammit. 😂 You really SHOW THIS TO ME HUH? IM GONNA REWATCH IT AGAIN. FK
Do *not* piss off Tanya! That is all.
ある程度の処罰・・・((((;ﾟДﾟ))))ｶﾞｸｶﾞｸﾌﾞﾙﾌﾞﾙ
As a former military officer, it's concerning to me how many people identify and agree with Tanya's sadistic actions in the scene.
Yeah, this reminds me of one of Sun Tzu's versus and supposedly what he did to show his king his true intentions.
_"If words of command are not clear and distinct, if orders are not thoroughly understood, then the general is to blame. But, if orders are clear and the soldiers nevertheless disobey, then it is the fault of their officers."_
Sun Tzu was ordered by his king to train concubine to perform a maneuver. When he gave the marching orders, the concubines giggled despite giving clear and precise instructions. He then gave the same orders again, but they still laughed. So, Sun Tzu told two of the concubines to step forward. He then decapitated them in front of the court. The rest of the concubine suddenly stepped in line and did exactly as Sun Tzu had ordered.
@@KuDastardly It comes down to the relationship between leaders and subordinates. A more friendly leader would act with more understanding and lighter punishments. Meanwhile a cold leader would act with more logic and harsh punishments.
Tanya is definitely cold and cruel, but it's not like she didn't have a reason to get rid of them. She's uncomfortable, but not unreasonable.
There is no Honor on the battlefield. They just say that to get young soldiers eager for battle, where they are used as canon fodder. Thats what my father says. And i say patriotism alone does not feed you, and you owe nothing to a country since you pay your taxes.
@@lolmanboss your father is wise. I shoved patriotism down 2 meters under decades ago. Since my country doesn't give a shyt about me, so i give it the same treatment.
@@TheBodiesInTheWaterBeckons i welcome you to the enligthened ones
Pfttt HAHAHAHAHA Can't stop laughing at this
Ouch... My ears is what got the Victory or Death with that outro sound balance
Tanya in manga has way better character
Good clip, no need for the earrape at the end though
2:04 Who else wants to protect that smile?
The nerfed Visha still cute enough for me, though not lying I'm kinda surprised seeing her design at first
I have never love a little girl as much as I love Tanya
What's a war without monsters?😈
The only "monster" in this Anime is god/Being X...
@@PerfectAlibi1 I'd say humanity itself.
@@malikguzman9132
Humans just do as designed by god... XD
@@PerfectAlibi1 sorry to burst your bubble, but god doesn't exist man. There's no proof that indicates otherwise.
@@malikguzman9132
He does in Tanya's universe, Being X being living proof... XD
I love this anime because the mc doesn't care about the deaths of her enemies. No questions asked, she just gets rhe job done like a true soldier
another character i don't want to see in real life, but I LOVE TO SEE in fiction
What's that outro song?
I wanna know the same thing ;--;
th-cam.com/video/JzOSuoEAKVk/w-d-xo.html
I dont remember already. But you can find it at NCS thank you
And this, ladys and gentleman, is a 8 years old girl wich is also my waifu
Past life doesn't count ._.
I understand how you feel
(The FBI has entered the chat)
You do realize that your waifu is a dude
@@gabutman6144
I repeat, past life doesnt count xd
@@JABRIEL251 FBI Try to protect you from this loli
Man, gotta watch this again, and I care not anout series i've been neglecting
Well, they say they will only go with victory or death despite being dismissed to go home, so we could say they choose death themselves. I fully understand Tanya, disobedient soldiers can send to waste any kind of war tactic or strategy of their superiors. If they dont want to go home, they're choosing death... hell, if I was in Tanya's position I'll have shoot them in the face myself so they dont waste anymore of my time. Her decision was too merciful.