What martial arts should police officers learn? Yes, Plural. They should learn more than one. Please give me your 2 cents in the comments section below.
25 year police officer. 10 year judoka. Old school Judo with Atemi Waza and leg grabs has worked well in my careers. Ippon Judo in gear is problematic as you need to defend your pistol. Came to Judo after 20 years of boxing and multiple hand fractures. While I agree striking is not the best option, occasionally it is required. Thank you for posting.
“Back the blue” Love the old school judo. I recall reading a article in a martial art magazine, think it was Black Belt. The article stated that police should be taught judo.
Without getting into technical details - a trained police officer is much better than an untrained one. Of course, Judo is one of the best systems for the police, no doubt about it. The Ne-waza section alone already has a huge range of applications in the police.
Kano taught judo to the Tokyo police department if I recall correctly or I think there was some rivalry between the jujutsu side of the police and the judo.
And today, it’s a mandatory training in the police force to learn judo, and most large stations host dojo open to public My sons dojo is affiliated with one of those, with 6-dan sensei, also a head of special force judo training(and he is 100% volunteering for the role) and fee is like $30/mo for 4times a week training. It’s quite inevitable that Japanese officers uses holds like Kesagatame and other judo moves in daily
Mr. Kano taught Judo to Tokyo police, but after basic, comes practical lesson in which you can hold opponent wrist. Last time I check, after Judo, Aikido for 1 year. Judo to be use against aggressive opponent, Aikido more for drunk or weaker opponent. Because Aikido didn't use much takedown, it's suitable for securing without damaging. Note: Aikido is actually dangerous, because it is quite easy to break someone wrist or arm. The police use it in a safe way.
@@budisutanto5987 if you dont already know, youtube " Bernie Lau" Aikijutsu. Hes a former undercover cop and an Aikijutsu master. He has also cross trained in Jujitsu, Judo etc. He applies Aiki techniques very effectively!
Lol, I had done various striking arts where we also learned some ground work, takedowns, etc., but I will say that when I first rolled with a 6 month white belt in BJJ I felt like a baby! In striking it's not always obvious who is more experienced if the gap is only a few months, but the moment you start grappling the difference is usually pretty obvious. Definitely think that grappling is way better for officers.
Weight lifting to an extent- boxing or maybe muay thai/mma to not get knocked out- american wrestling and sprinting/sometimes a little parkour to take down and restrain in drawn out scenarios- judo for high burst(often used by police officers) situations to take down and restrain And first and foremost- High intensity paintball or airsoft training combined with regular shooting, and maybe some high level video game tactics practice. I think it comes from the fact that you have to know how to do something yourself in any combat if you want to have a real chance at defending it when the fight is important.
@@ASlopedRoof Well that's a hell of a combination, but is impossible lol They don't have a lot of free time and they are cops, not fighters, athletes, or special operations guys, just regular police officers. I do agree with the video, Judo, and Jiu-Jitsu would be greater for the police, and as you said, know how to strike is a good skill, and lift weights are awesome too, but they don't have a lot of free time, and they have families. So, just focus on one or two disciplines would be better, like Judo and CrossFit for example, and do sporadic striking training cause the primary goal is not to punch and kick someone who is resisting, but effectively control him. But I feel that they should develop a disciple for police law enforcement, more direct to the goal, with simple and effective techniques, cuz honestly most of the people that start Judo they will only be able to use it in law enforcement situation after a lot of time training, and Judo training is complex, so If u guys could make it more direct, would be great. I'm from Brazil, sorry for some mistakes. Here we have the same problem as u guys, and I do think that the development of a law enforcement discipline would be a better solution.
@This is BAXTER or just go to a police academy or military academy where they teach you like 3 techniques from each one in like 2 weeks, point being that-that should be refined and repeated
Good question. Having worked with LEO's in the past, our schools have found that a combination of modern Jujitsu / Jujutsu and Judo worked best for us. The Jujitsu approaches the situation from a combat mentality with proven techniques and responses that can be used under any condition (weapons etc.) The Judo adds a layer of grappling applications that will help especially going from standing to ground. Having an instructor with real world experience is also a bonus. Military veterans, leo, bodyguards, etc.
A Judo/BJJ/Sambo synthesis is beautiful and should be trained concurrently. I respect Sambo because it's a balanced art that incorporates kickboxing, wrestling, and Judo throws.
I've been in Law enforcement for 14 years. I started Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu as soon I graduated the police academy because I wasn't comfortable with what the police academy was teaching. Also I was 5'8 130lbs when I started working patrol so I felt I needed something. There weren't any Judo schools near me but I learned enough about takedowns from BJJ classes to get by. Nothing perfect but I got by. Over time I became known as the little guy who could handle his own. Understanding grappling pretty much made my career and now I teach other officers defensive tactics. My point is I completely agree with you that Judo or some other grappling arts should be taught because I believe there are many shooting incidents that could be avoided if the officers understood some of these principles. BJJ gets a bad rap as far as police tactics go, which is understandable, but it's helped me and it's all I had access to. I just resist the urge to jump guard 😄 I don't know how officers are trained in your state but in mine (SC) it's kind of like an assembly line and I assume other states are similar. Officers are really given just enough defensive tactics to get by and there are so many other topics to cover during that time like traffic stops, firearms and legals for example. The officers are expected to be trained quickly and be out on the streets to work. This is a job usually with high turnover so sometimes as soon as they are trained they quit and the academy has to churn out more officers. I guess what I'm saying is trying to get the level of training to be proficient enough to protect yourself with Judo or any grappling art is just not usually possible under the circumstances that these police academies have to train in. Then there's keeping up that level of training to stay proficient. It's pretty much up to the officer to take the initiative and learn on their own like I did because that level of training probably isn't going to come from their agency or police academy. I agree with a lot of your points though and I hope that some changes come to make things safer for everyone. I appreciate your videos. Keep doing good.
Rod JJT I’m also an LEO in SC man, two years into my career. I’ve been doing BJJ for a while and added some muy Thai recently, I feel like it definitely makes me both more confident in my ability and gives me a realistic view of what I can do. Anyway, stay safe and vigilant out there brother!
Thanks for that honest take Rod. Its rare to hear anyone in law enforcement speak on deficiencies in training or personal accountability. I train with several LEO's and they echo your sentiment on practical ability enhancing confidence and improving favorable outcomes in the field. Thank you for your service.
I am from Bay Area. I do not know what they teach the cops, but a bunch of San Francisco cops unloaded more than 50 bullets against one suspect and hit nothing.......
On the job for nearly 30 years. I got into judo my first or second year as I realized the training I was getting through work was not adequate. My instructor was a LEO too. He was also a Green Beret with three tours in Vietnam before he started his LE career. His instructor was a Air Force SAC who learned judo at the Kodokan. We got sport judo, combat judo LE techniques and how to kill sentry’s with a knife training. Over thirty years later I’m still training with him.
Truth be told: It’s not a matter of a particular art it’s a matter of an understanding of how to use the tools specific to whatever art one studies in the commission of ones police duties. Once that is understood then and only then will the conversation of “what art is best for LEO’s” will cease. One simply needs to focus his/her respective martial/Defensive Tactics studies through a lens focused with information derived from the use-of-force policies respective to his/her particular department, the universal use-of-force continuum, and the Basic Universal Code of Technique Interpretation and Pragmatic Usage. Many people come to Law Enforcement Departments with martial backgrounds in a variety of systems and methods but haven’t the slightest clue of how to apply those lessons in a law enforcement capacity, which tells you it’s not the art, it’s the information that guides the person to use the art for whatever purpose needed. ~Randy B. Haskins~ Badge # 2721 (Retired)
Vancouver PD has police judo adapted 20 years ago with success, taking an sus down and taking care of them at the same time, avoid/minimize injury, less complaints, well received by civilian oversight as well.
Judo is ideal for law enforcement, especially for arrests/takedowns. I STILL think that Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu can and should be trained concurrently with Judo in the event the officer is taken down or overpowered.
Grappling is obviously paramount. You can make an argument for Judo, amateur wrestling, BJJ, or Sambo. The Marietta Police Department in Georgia made BJJ training mandatory a few years ago and noticed immediate and notable reductions in Taser deployments, officer injuries during use-of-force incidents, and injuries to suspects during use-of-force incidents. Judo is always going to have the edge over BJJ in takedown acumen and scenarios with more than one suspect (or the potential for more than one suspect). However, given how much time of any given use-of-force incident often involves what amounts to "dirty newaza" and some extremely difficult scrambles to get guys secured in cuffs, I can't blame departments for the emphasis on BJJ. It has clearly worked quite well in many incidents -- most notably in that video from Tulsa with the two Gang Unit guys trying to disarm the guy who's trying to pull a loaded pistol from his waistband. But I digress: all of these grappling styles are very proven and would work fantastically for any would-be police officer in the course of his/her duties. All of them are massive improvements over the core defensive tactics curriculum in most academies nationwide, which is what's important: actually getting competent grappling training in a given style (preferably more than one). However, there is a place for striking as well. I think fundamental boxing and/or possibly Muay Thai are probably king in this regard (though you could make arguments for things like Panantukan or Savate). Modifications would have to be made for the lack of gloves, of course. While officers aren't generally looking to knock out those they're in altercations with, the defensive & miscellaneous applications for striking arts are hard to overstate as you said. For instance, the stress inoculation of knowing what it's like to get punched in the face and what it's like to have someone trying to actively hit you. The defensive fundamentals of footwork, distance management, parries, head movement, etc. that might allow you to avoid getting sucker-punched and potentially KO'd or at the very least hurt before you can go hands-on with the suspect in question are all critical skills for any peace officer. With Muay Thai, it has a lot of that to some degree while also adding in the clinch positions -- many of which have direct applications to police work (just bear in mind that the Thai plum doesn't allow you to monitor one's hands in a situation where weapons may be involved) -- as well as low kicks. I think low kicks are an undersold tool in the arsenal of a police officer who is in the "active resistance" stage of the use-of-force continuum where "hard" empty-hand control is authorized or even as an alternative to the often unreliable ASP baton.
I love judo and Gracie Brazilian jiu Jitsu is judo Rener Gracie created the greatest system for cops to take down a monster without hurting him I’ve ever seen . he’s a genius can’t people just except the truth my goodness the mother was Judo it’s an extension of
As a police officer I trained Judo and BJJ but now only train Judo because what I realized in BJJ I'm always going to the ground and in uniform with all the pice issued gear it's very hard but with Judo I can and have used some throws and right into a wrist lock and handcuffs...judo for police is great
Police officers should learn the art of de-escalation and professionalism. There are daily video's from multiple TH-camrs who have video's of policemen breaking their oaths and bullying citizens with their power. I once backed the blue, now, I'm afraid of them.
i did read that you must have very good technique and lots of practice to make judo throws work in self defense Judo is one of my favorite martial arts
I think that's his exact point! It's essential that police officers be well trained and well practiced in all of their responsibilities. It would serve them as much as it serves the community.
Interesting, I'm police officer in Europe and one of your subscriber, and for me judo and bjj have being very useful, great tools for "policing" if that's a word. That saying, sometimes you just have to put a knee on the belly or the back, that's how the world works.
I agree, Judo (the non sport version, but from the original curriculum) is an outstanding martial art for law enforcement. I have used much judo (in particular osoto otoshi and tai otoshi) in over 31 years of law enforcement. On the ground, the primary things to focus in are sweeps and reversals to get out of the bottom and get up. I will say, the new rules/requirements for the NYPD are ridiculous, unrealistic, and dangerous for the officer and offender. Why offender, because their restrictions on the ground make it almost impossible to control an out of control fully resisting, substance enhanced, and or even partially trained offender. This may often cause law enforcement to go from very minimal force and skip to much higher force quickly, because of the ineffectiveness, caused by these rules. They sound good to the unknowing, yet may be much more dangerous for all. The reason, I say non sporting Judo is also to understand the defenses against takedowns. The number one takedown someone in the street or law enforcement will face is some form of a double leg (tackle). Sport Judo sadly has this as an illegal technique, so many rarely practice defending it. De-escalation is a great catch phrase and is used often to try and pigeon hole law enforcement into surrender and ineffectiveness. Reality is often by continually backing down to someone whom is very aggressive, it actually encourages them to be more aggressive and violent. They feel, they are in control and without repercussions for their actions. This doesn't mean, there is not a time. It means it's a tool, that has to be used properly.
I've heard in Japan, to qualify for police academy, one needs to have shodan in either judo, kendo or aikido. I was a bouncer while in school and we of course didn't have weapons or badges but the guys that did wrestling, bjj and judo, we were able to resolve physical situations with some very basic holds. Anyone we got hold of could tell straightaway they weren't getting loose until we were outside so they cooperated. Police need to have other tools in the tool box. Yes, my Black Life Matters. And, yes, we need police but they have got to start holding themselves, in a real way, to much higher standards of physical training, academic understanding of the communities they're policing as well as compassion. Fortunately judo contains aspects of all three!
I totally agree with you in the philosophy of Judo. Grasping the philosophy makes the learning the movements much easier, in my opinion. It's understanding why you are doing something before you do it.
It would be a great benefit to teach these values of Martial Arts to police officers. Because the job is very stressful an officer has to think differently in the streets. I believe that judo and any Martial Arts from the west have great benefits. It is one of the top reasons a person should study for self-improvement and a strong philosophy of mutual understanding. From a lot of officers that I have spoken to Martial Arts is taught as a means of self-defense and not a philosophy. I know the Miami Police Department gives classes to there academy students in yoga to teach them breathing technics as a form of stress meditation.
Judo would be it. It was meant not to harm ayone plus in Japan most police are shodan. BJJ is not because basically you dont want to do newaza with a gun strapped to your waist plus Judo covers all that BJJ has to teach. A cop needs to learn to throw with minimum harm (judo) and apply osaikokmi coupled with quick hand cuff techniques...not wrestle some criminal who might have a blade in his shoe Leave BJJ for kids and competition its meant to keep the youth in the straight and narrow for those that are afraid to get thrown.... Judo has all that BJJ has but you gonna get thrown!
I actually think many excessive force cases could be solved by Police learning Judo/ BJJ/ Greco. I’d imagine many injuries caused by police are due to poor training and having to use brute strength. Grappling teaches how to incrementally increase and decrease the amount of force necessary to safely subdue an opponent.
This is a fantastic video. I have had this discussion many times with security guards I worked with. When it came down to altercations, my minimal knowledge of judo had proven much more effective than trading blows.
I don't know what exactly is happening in the US, but let us say judo becomes part of police training. Should they train with the gi or disregard it completely? and in general should judo have more no gi competitions like bjj?
They shouldnt require none so they stay bottom of the food chain with their gadgets against a fully trained warrior. Cops need to be at a disadvantage for the public to defend themselves cause who really wants to fight 5 cops trained in jiu-jitsu let alone one with a tazer a gun and metal beating stick.. it would just encourage more people to wield weapons against them. I like it how it is now you can easily knock a cop out and go about your business.
Maybe green belt qualified minimum for all LEOs. Would make them more confident and cool tempered if they're more proficient in non firearm engagements.
Additionally, if anyone hasn’t heard of him, a guy that ran for president recently and will be running again named Andrew Yang is a big proponent of grappling and MMA and had a really good idea of trying to make it mandatory for police to either have a purple belt in BJJ or actively working up towards it. I know it doesn’t have judo in mind at the moment but it’s just refreshing to have a politician that has some good ideas.
I think that all police departments should have budgets expanded, and with the increased funding: 1. Have tougher higher processes and more in-depth screenings to ensure that appropriate people are hired for the job. 2. Give higher pay to reward them for hard, dangerous work. And to retain the talent, and appeal to more qualified people. 3. Have longer, tough academies with more training in de-escalation/psychology/verbal judo/sociology and cultural awareness/effective grappling like Judo and BJJ. 4. With a larger police force and budget, cut the time on patrol in HALF, and pay them to spend all of that time training instead of on the beat. The quality of policing in America would improve with that. Politically, I'd give police more protections and immunities to use necessary force without fear of ideological prosecution. This way cops can crack down HARD on violent crime. At the same time, I would also decriminalize most NONVIOLENT crimes so that police don't have to waste their time on petty things like weed. Only my opinion. I'm happy to hear everyone else's thoughts.
Judo+BJJ. If you know only judo/bjj, ur only learning half of the art. If a cop knew judo and bjj, they would defeat crinimals of all sizes without even drawing a firearm or their batons.
Judo should be the main version of martial arts that Police do. Many officers love bjj, I I aswell I do Judo an Bjj, but I'm always quick to jump in and remind them our encounters start standing and it's in our best interest to remain standing with subject on ground if need be,as opposed to grappling on the ground with the subject. Standing I can disengage if gets to crazy, transition to other tools, etc, those arent as easy to accomplish on the ground. Judo transitions have worked best for me, foot sweeps,hip toss, arm drags/underhooks , while holding onto the subjects arm while they go down is best. All the gear we wear really kills our mobility when on the ground. So for me personally, I lean on my Judo for Policing rather than my Bjj. Foot sweeps can take you really far in law enforcement, the average person 99%, have terrible balance, coordination, body awareness, it sometimes feels like your tripping a toddler
Judo, Jiu Jitsu, and a striking art. If you don’t understand range, it’s difficult to close the distance in order to execute a takedown if it’s needed.
Doesn't randori teach this? I get that being struck is a concern... but most assailants aren't Mike Tyson. Read: you might have to take a punch or two before getting a hold of them, but once you do... you should be in familiar territory.
Judo is a great martial art. Greco Roman wrestling is good also as you said. The problem is that Judo takes a long time to get good at and most police I know spend very little time learning martial arts. A lot of police do train in martial arts on their own time, most seem to gravitate to Judo or Krav Maga but a vast majority of police do no additional training other than what they were taught at the academy and possibly an occasional mandatory refresher course.
I think that all police departments should have budgets expanded, and with the increased funding: 1. Have tougher higher processes and more in-depth screenings to ensure that appropriate people are hired for the job. 2. Give higher pay to reward them for hard, dangerous work. And to retain the talent, and appeal to more qualified people. 3. Have longer, tough academies with more training in de-escalation/psychology/verbal judo/sociology and cultural awareness/effective grappling like Judo and BJJ. 4. With a larger police force and budget, cut the time on patrol in HALF, and pay them to spend all of that time training instead of on the beat. The quality of policing in America would improve with that. Politically, I'd give police more protections and immunities to use necessary force without fear of ideological prosecution. This way cops can crack down HARD on violent crime. At the same time, I would also decriminalize most NONVIOLENT crimes so that police don't have to waste their time on petty things like weed. Only my opinion. I'm happy to hear everyone else's thoughts.
Sorry boxing and bjj but i completely agree that judo is ideal for law enforcement purposes. It isn't a police officers job to beat the hell out of people or maim them. Judo offers efficiency and isn't dependent on "fair fight" circumstances for success.
Growing up in NYC in 1950s on a block occupied by NYC cops and firemen, I would say a slapjack made up for years of martial arts training. Its a shame they are no longer allowed.
Judo is a good Idea for anyone, bodyguards, police, CIA use. Karate works great too, but can get you into trouble. In MMA the referee saves lives. Judo is dangerous and you could kill or disable its a big part of Japanese Jujutsu. Don't use additional force, lets say after you break or dislocate arm, because that will get you in Jail. So remember to shield and protect, keep Humble.
Lol. For years I've survived in my work as an ED Nurse with a boxers guard and foot drills and osto gari or tia otoshi into kesa. Totally agree. I train judo, boxing and bjj. I'm also glad you talked about the professional image aspect everyone has a smart phone and they only want to share what the want folk to see. never looks good if a police officer, paramedic nurse, Dr etc starts Punching folk
Shannon S Mandatory judo training and either Kendo or Judo black belt is necessary to be in the force. And large police stations has Judo dojo with classes open to public, hosting areal joint judo training officiated by 3-7dan black belts(some competes as well) As restraining of a fugitive goes, I see kesagatame all the time when officer takes somn down So it’s way more grafted into the system, and doing much more to the community As for the guns, they do carry it in some areas regularly, but they have to warn three times before shooting and need tons of paper work to fill after by pulling a gun out. Lol It’s very different coz it’s way safer and not often requires fire arm
important bit i think is that if they do learn judo they should play opposite hand - people may not know that righty and lefty in judo are opposite of what those would be in boxing - this is important here in the US because righties carry their gun on the right hip which you'd want to keep away from someone, and certainly not turn that hip into the opponent just unconsciously. So Yes I 100% agree - but if you're a right shooter, then play judo lefty and vice versa.
This msg needs to get out into the world. I also think the police need 2 mandatory requirements physically fit and grappling experience (preferably Judo). It’ll keep all the guys out who get to trigger happy when the situation doesn’t call for it.
Well said Shintaro. Always support the police, the vast majority are very decent people doing a thankless job. Ps big fan of the channel. Keep posting the videos please
Judo is good, but I think there should also be some Greco or Folkstyle wrestling. Judo and Greco focus on takedowns with grips above the waist, so you don't hurt your knees shooting for a double. Wrestling in general, along with Judo but mainly wrestling, focuses on pins. I think pinning and controlling is most optimal for law enforcement.
That’s a Cat.2 use of force and protocols apply, if you taser that is a Cat.2 use of force. The use of force guideline applies in every use of force incident, you can’t just do a judo throw because it’s effective, you have you use the least amount of force possible to gain control.
Judo grip fighting kumi kata alone would teach police officers how not to get their gun grabbed away from them. Also great self-defense for women. If you cannot be grabbed you cannot be thrown on the ground. I have never seen this drilled in BJJ. It has helped me survive against BJJ blackbelts who were better than me.
The unfortunate fact is, that police officers in my opinion need to carry drug overdosage treatment kits, and forcibly administer diagnoses and treatments on the field in front of everyone, their friends and family. People like george fl yd pop up every second, and fentanyl killed him then and there. If we're going to actually help people, its the only way.
The best channel in martial arts...But the sound is very noisi and low volume, hard to understand, especially for me that am not native english speaker...Abot the question, i must say capoeira and boxing to learn to use the distance and execute a fast neutraolizing move
Modified judo to reduce trauma especially head trauma I think you mentioned that not sure and augmented with high percentage Wrestling clich work again modified as we don’t want trauma from an overzealous suplex. Thanks for the video
osaekomi waza is a huge benefit just being able to hold someone in place effectively till they've blown their wad is priceless. Something I think modern bjj kinda forgets about. Tend to focus to much on the submission sometimes
It's exceedingly difficult to control an attacker without harming them. I know dozens of (traditional) Jujutsu waza which, in theory, should... but in application? I'm 1 for 2 (having successfully applied a wrist lock once, but inadvertently taken an elbow on another occasion). Judo, provides an excellent alternative IMO. No striking, no small joint manipulation. More importantly, competency can be developed fairly quickly and it can be practiced safely in a "live" environment. Ideal for law enforcement (or taming drunk uncles).
Greetings from Finland ! I 100% agree with u that Judo is the best martial art for cops and i can see where this video coming from.... in our country, to become a police officer u have to go through police univercity which last at least 3 years.... and u have to be there like 1.5 years before u get any combat training and before that u have to have a strict clean criminal record with psycological test passed...And even in strait cases where bad guy shoots a police and police shoots back,theres gonna be a hell of a media storm from that where the police justified to use a firearm. In our country, people trust the law and police officers
Hello Shintaro, I don't know if you ever addressed the following in your previous videos and its a rather controversial one: What do you think about decision by IJF to ban leg grabs in shiai? Do you think it was a good decision or a poor one? Do you think it improved Judo as a Martial Art and a sport or stifled it and made it less relevant in the grappling meta in comparison to say Sambo or Olympic Wrestling? I would love to hear your opinion about it! :)
I think they needed to in order to distinguish themselves from wrestling for the Olympics. I think the rule changes helped shape the way judo is currently today. I think it was a good move from a sport perspective but not from a martial perspective. I definitely miss them!
I think the guidelines were probably geared more towards avoiding incidents where people who have certain medical conditions have their diaphragms squeezed and as a result suffer breathing problems
I just wish IJF just return all the stuff they took away, especially the leg attacks. With the exception of Kani Basami which should still be restricted but its new version (post hand on the mat) still taught in schools.
You don't any need martial arts when your fights consist of dogpiling one person with five people. The best martial art for police would be whatever is least effective for beating their spouses with (maybe ninjitsu or wing chun), which they do at a rate 4x that of the general public.
I love Judo. But to teach to a police officer who is fully armed and kills people, I think the police force are overfunded and over trained in killing. In my opinion, we should teach the police force on the rule of law and following that law. Right at the moment, all I see are police gangs who bullies the very people they should protect. They have forgotten the community, not to mention their own morals and honesty.
I think unfortunately if police officers started doing judo to citizens, people who don’t train will immediately object, regardless of how controlled the cop is doing it. Punches look bad on camera but judo throws look just as violent, if not more. Plus, that would require getting every cop to learn judo enough that they could be controlled and be able to hit various techniques and throws from all different positions. That level of skill takes time. However, in BJJ, you could only have 6 months training and be much safer. you don’t have to pin them in side control or put pressure on their diaphragm. If you keep a kimura grip or knee on hip you can maintain great control. And let’s not pretend that judo trains you for multiple opponents, it just potentially give you the opportunity to violently dispatch of the first opponent while hopefully not going down with them. But cops shouldn’t do that so
Wild Child In japan, all officers are trained with Judo and never seen once that they threw somn Hold, trip and into the group with control is the major method and very rarely as officers gets attacked, or held from behind, throws those come in play. Which can be similar to BJJ in that context. But yeah, in America, if somn officer Ipponseoi a fugitive into a concrete breaking that person, there will be some riot
I’m a strong individualist, near anarchist, believer in self reliance. But unless you want to see your neighbors rank themselves out in strongest to weakest hierarchies- with lots of death to punctuate the ranks- some policing is necessary.
@@avenuex3731 Saying that something needs to be gotten rid of, doesn't mean nothing should go in its place. Modern police forces are beyond reform and systems for community safety need to be completely redesigned.
Feral Worker I don’t disagree with all of that. As I said, I am a big supporter of a mature and self reliant society. Unfortunately the abuses we see in law enforcement stem from a society that demands it through their collective actions. The relationship as of late is descending into a macro scale Das Experiment. But when mature communities are self policed by individuals with mutual concern in place, there is no need for police at all. No one breaks the contract because all understand the consequences of doing so. And no external authority is necessary. But doing the opposite begs the harshest response, because not doing so invites barbarism. To harmonize with Shintaro’s point however, the police response cannot in like terms demand the harshest response from society and expect to remain legitimate. So, a better way to engage the citizenry is imminently needed. Thus, judo, aikido or rather jujitsu and aikijutsu are excellent candidates to accomplish this. I’m not in favor of arts that get too deep into grappling, because too often it requires a lethal end ( ...”he reached for my weapon...”) or ties the officer up while other bad actors show up. Very dangerous. Often a worse situation emerges. But good to know your way on the ground if you should get there. So, newaza at every practice. Ok
25 year police officer. 10 year judoka. Old school Judo with Atemi Waza and leg grabs has worked well in my careers. Ippon Judo in gear is problematic as you need to defend your pistol. Came to Judo after 20 years of boxing and multiple hand fractures. While I agree striking is not the best option, occasionally it is required. Thank you for posting.
“Back the blue”
Love the old school judo. I recall reading a article in a martial art magazine, think it was Black Belt. The article stated that police should be taught judo.
You are very welcome
But if you had a fully covered holster that would fix the problem.
@@Agecatcher No. Firearm retention is a necessary thing to do even with a hooded holster.
Thank you for your service!
Without getting into technical details - a trained police officer is much better than an untrained one.
Of course, Judo is one of the best systems for the police, no doubt about it. The Ne-waza section alone already has a huge range of applications in the police.
Maybe a mix of everything..
Muay Thai and MMA then they no longer need firearms ^^
And cops get shot at without an arm...
Maybe the city would be open to an NYPD judo program. Something to consider when the dojos reopen.
In our city,police officers are trained in judo and boxing..with daily sprinting and strength training..
Kano taught judo to the Tokyo police department if I recall correctly or I think there was some rivalry between the jujutsu side of the police and the judo.
They held a competition between judo and jujitsu for who should teach the police force. Judo won and since then it's been taught.
And today, it’s a mandatory training in the police force to learn judo, and most large stations host dojo open to public
My sons dojo is affiliated with one of those, with 6-dan sensei, also a head of special force judo training(and he is 100% volunteering for the role) and fee is like $30/mo for 4times a week training.
It’s quite inevitable that Japanese officers uses holds like Kesagatame and other judo moves in daily
Mr. Kano taught Judo to Tokyo police, but after basic, comes practical lesson in which you can hold opponent wrist.
Last time I check, after Judo, Aikido for 1 year.
Judo to be use against aggressive opponent, Aikido more for drunk or weaker opponent. Because Aikido didn't use much takedown, it's suitable for securing without damaging.
Note: Aikido is actually dangerous, because it is quite easy to break someone wrist or arm.
The police use it in a safe way.
@@budisutanto5987 if you dont already know, youtube " Bernie Lau" Aikijutsu. Hes a former undercover cop and an Aikijutsu master. He has also cross trained in Jujitsu, Judo etc. He applies Aiki techniques very effectively!
@@dianecenteno5275 Thx for the info. I'll find time to watch it.
Lol, I had done various striking arts where we also learned some ground work, takedowns, etc., but I will say that when I first rolled with a 6 month white belt in BJJ I felt like a baby! In striking it's not always obvious who is more experienced if the gap is only a few months, but the moment you start grappling the difference is usually pretty obvious. Definitely think that grappling is way better for officers.
Can’t we just have an army of Shintaro Police Clones instead?...
We do not need clones of Shintaro.We just need less crime and more respect for our fellow human beings. Then a lot would be gained.
Lol.
@@Emmermacher nah we need clones
@@genises200 🤣🤣🤣
@@Emmermacher No, clones are cooler.
I feel judo and jiu-jitsu are martial arts that NEED to be part of all police training. Should be mandatory.
Weight lifting to an extent- boxing or maybe muay thai/mma to not get knocked out- american wrestling and sprinting/sometimes a little parkour to take down and restrain in drawn out scenarios- judo for high burst(often used by police officers) situations to take down and restrain
And first and foremost-
High intensity paintball or airsoft training combined with regular shooting, and maybe some high level video game tactics practice.
I think it comes from the fact that you have to know how to do something yourself in any combat if you want to have a real chance at defending it when the fight is important.
@@ASlopedRoof what a troll. That was cute.😂🤣
@@ASlopedRoof Well that's a hell of a combination, but is impossible lol
They don't have a lot of free time and they are cops, not fighters, athletes, or special operations guys, just regular police officers.
I do agree with the video, Judo, and Jiu-Jitsu would be greater for the police, and as you said, know how to strike is a good skill, and lift weights are awesome too, but they don't have a lot of free time, and they have families.
So, just focus on one or two disciplines would be better, like Judo and CrossFit for example, and do sporadic striking training cause the primary goal is not to punch and kick someone who is resisting, but effectively control him.
But I feel that they should develop a disciple for police law enforcement, more direct to the goal, with simple and effective techniques, cuz honestly most of the people that start Judo they will only be able to use it in law enforcement situation after a lot of time training, and Judo training is complex, so If u guys could make it more direct, would be great.
I'm from Brazil, sorry for some mistakes. Here we have the same problem as u guys, and I do think that the development of a law enforcement discipline would be a better solution.
@This is BAXTER or just go to a police academy or military academy where they teach you like 3 techniques from each one in like 2 weeks, point being that-that should be refined and repeated
@@CabralNick good points brotha.
Hi .....The British Police were taught Taiho Jutsu from 1973 - 1996...this was based on Judo and Aikido......
Not a cop, can confirm. Because several judoka in my dojo are cops
Good question. Having worked with LEO's in the past, our schools have found that a combination of modern Jujitsu / Jujutsu and Judo worked best for us. The Jujitsu approaches the situation from a combat mentality with proven techniques and responses that can be used under any condition (weapons etc.) The Judo adds a layer of grappling applications that will help especially going from standing to ground. Having an instructor with real world experience is also a bonus. Military veterans, leo, bodyguards, etc.
A Judo/BJJ/Sambo synthesis is beautiful and should be trained concurrently. I respect Sambo because it's a balanced art that incorporates kickboxing, wrestling, and Judo throws.
I've been in Law enforcement for 14 years. I started Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu as soon I graduated the police academy because I wasn't comfortable with what the police academy was teaching. Also I was 5'8 130lbs when I started working patrol so I felt I needed something. There weren't any Judo schools near me but I learned enough about takedowns from BJJ classes to get by. Nothing perfect but I got by.
Over time I became known as the little guy who could handle his own. Understanding grappling pretty much made my career and now I teach other officers defensive tactics. My point is I completely agree with you that Judo or some other grappling arts should be taught because I believe there are many shooting incidents that could be avoided if the officers understood some of these principles. BJJ gets a bad rap as far as police tactics go, which is understandable, but it's helped me and it's all I had access to. I just resist the urge to jump guard 😄
I don't know how officers are trained in your state but in mine (SC) it's kind of like an assembly line and I assume other states are similar. Officers are really given just enough defensive tactics to get by and there are so many other topics to cover during that time like traffic stops, firearms and legals for example. The officers are expected to be trained quickly and be out on the streets to work.
This is a job usually with high turnover so sometimes as soon as they are trained they quit and the academy has to churn out more officers. I guess what I'm saying is trying to get the level of training to be proficient enough to protect yourself with Judo or any grappling art is just not usually possible under the circumstances that these police academies have to train in. Then there's keeping up that level of training to stay proficient. It's pretty much up to the officer to take the initiative and learn on their own like I did because that level of training probably isn't going to come from their agency or police academy.
I agree with a lot of your points though and I hope that some changes come to make things safer for everyone. I appreciate your videos. Keep doing good.
Rod JJT I’m also an LEO in SC man, two years into my career. I’ve been doing BJJ for a while and added some muy Thai recently, I feel like it definitely makes me both more confident in my ability and gives me a realistic view of what I can do. Anyway, stay safe and vigilant out there brother!
Thanks for that honest take Rod. Its rare to hear anyone in law enforcement speak on deficiencies in training or personal accountability. I train with several LEO's and they echo your sentiment on practical ability enhancing confidence and improving favorable outcomes in the field. Thank you for your service.
Yup, I agree . In California it’s the same... sad , really
I am from Bay Area. I do not know what they teach the cops, but a bunch of San Francisco cops unloaded more than 50 bullets against one suspect and hit nothing.......
I agree with you and that's the best move you've made regarding learning a martial art but judo is best for cops
Shout out to Police Judo in Vancouver, BC! My first taste of Judo, it was super fun!
Police Judo is meh, its extremely basic dumbed down jiu jitsu
@@neonhavok police judo is different everywhere you go.
On the job for nearly 30 years. I got into judo my first or second year as I realized the training I was getting through work was not adequate. My instructor was a LEO too. He was also a Green Beret with three tours in Vietnam before he started his LE career. His instructor was a Air Force SAC who learned judo at the Kodokan.
We got sport judo, combat judo LE techniques and how to kill sentry’s with a knife training.
Over thirty years later I’m still training with him.
Who is your instructor?
@@Kthomasritchie Mike Taylor
Truth be told: It’s not a matter of a particular art it’s a matter of an understanding of how to use the tools specific to whatever art one studies in the commission of ones police duties.
Once that is understood then and only then will the conversation of “what art is best for LEO’s” will cease.
One simply needs to focus his/her respective martial/Defensive Tactics studies through a lens focused with information derived from the use-of-force policies respective to his/her particular department, the universal use-of-force continuum, and the Basic Universal Code of Technique Interpretation and Pragmatic Usage.
Many people come to Law Enforcement Departments with martial backgrounds in a variety of systems and methods but haven’t the slightest clue of how to apply those lessons in a law enforcement capacity, which tells you it’s not the art, it’s the information that guides the person to use the art for whatever purpose needed.
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Well said!
Very well said.
@Amusis: ?
Vancouver PD has police judo adapted 20 years ago with success, taking an sus down and taking care of them at the same time, avoid/minimize injury, less complaints, well received by civilian oversight as well.
Judo is ideal for law enforcement, especially for arrests/takedowns. I STILL think that Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu can and should be trained concurrently with Judo in the event the officer is taken down or overpowered.
Grappling is obviously paramount. You can make an argument for Judo, amateur wrestling, BJJ, or Sambo. The Marietta Police Department in Georgia made BJJ training mandatory a few years ago and noticed immediate and notable reductions in Taser deployments, officer injuries during use-of-force incidents, and injuries to suspects during use-of-force incidents. Judo is always going to have the edge over BJJ in takedown acumen and scenarios with more than one suspect (or the potential for more than one suspect). However, given how much time of any given use-of-force incident often involves what amounts to "dirty newaza" and some extremely difficult scrambles to get guys secured in cuffs, I can't blame departments for the emphasis on BJJ. It has clearly worked quite well in many incidents -- most notably in that video from Tulsa with the two Gang Unit guys trying to disarm the guy who's trying to pull a loaded pistol from his waistband. But I digress: all of these grappling styles are very proven and would work fantastically for any would-be police officer in the course of his/her duties. All of them are massive improvements over the core defensive tactics curriculum in most academies nationwide, which is what's important: actually getting competent grappling training in a given style (preferably more than one).
However, there is a place for striking as well. I think fundamental boxing and/or possibly Muay Thai are probably king in this regard (though you could make arguments for things like Panantukan or Savate). Modifications would have to be made for the lack of gloves, of course. While officers aren't generally looking to knock out those they're in altercations with, the defensive & miscellaneous applications for striking arts are hard to overstate as you said. For instance, the stress inoculation of knowing what it's like to get punched in the face and what it's like to have someone trying to actively hit you. The defensive fundamentals of footwork, distance management, parries, head movement, etc. that might allow you to avoid getting sucker-punched and potentially KO'd or at the very least hurt before you can go hands-on with the suspect in question are all critical skills for any peace officer.
With Muay Thai, it has a lot of that to some degree while also adding in the clinch positions -- many of which have direct applications to police work (just bear in mind that the Thai plum doesn't allow you to monitor one's hands in a situation where weapons may be involved) -- as well as low kicks. I think low kicks are an undersold tool in the arsenal of a police officer who is in the "active resistance" stage of the use-of-force continuum where "hard" empty-hand control is authorized or even as an alternative to the often unreliable ASP baton.
I love judo and Gracie Brazilian jiu Jitsu is judo
Rener Gracie created the greatest system for cops to take down a monster without hurting him I’ve ever seen . he’s a genius can’t people just except the truth my goodness the mother was Judo it’s an extension of
As a police officer I trained Judo and BJJ but now only train Judo because what I realized in BJJ I'm always going to the ground and in uniform with all the pice issued gear it's very hard but with Judo I can and have used some throws and right into a wrist lock and handcuffs...judo for police is great
Police officers should learn the art of de-escalation and professionalism. There are daily video's from multiple TH-camrs who have video's of policemen breaking their oaths and bullying citizens with their power. I once backed the blue, now, I'm afraid of them.
i did read that you must have very good technique and lots of practice
to make judo throws work in self defense
Judo is one of my favorite martial arts
I think that's his exact point! It's essential that police officers be well trained and well practiced in all of their responsibilities. It would serve them as much as it serves the community.
Interesting, I'm police officer in Europe and one of your subscriber, and for me judo and bjj have being very useful, great tools for "policing" if that's a word. That saying, sometimes you just have to put a knee on the belly or the back, that's how the world works.
I agree, Judo (the non sport version, but from the original curriculum) is an outstanding martial art for law enforcement. I have used much judo (in particular osoto otoshi and tai otoshi) in over 31 years of law enforcement. On the ground, the primary things to focus in are sweeps and reversals to get out of the bottom and get up. I will say, the new rules/requirements for the NYPD are ridiculous, unrealistic, and dangerous for the officer and offender. Why offender, because their restrictions on the ground make it almost impossible to control an out of control fully resisting, substance enhanced, and or even partially trained offender. This may often cause law enforcement to go from very minimal force and skip to much higher force quickly, because of the ineffectiveness, caused by these rules. They sound good to the unknowing, yet may be much more dangerous for all. The reason, I say non sporting Judo is also to understand the defenses against takedowns. The number one takedown someone in the street or law enforcement will face is some form of a double leg (tackle). Sport Judo sadly has this as an illegal technique, so many rarely practice defending it. De-escalation is a great catch phrase and is used often to try and pigeon hole law enforcement into surrender and ineffectiveness. Reality is often by continually backing down to someone whom is very aggressive, it actually encourages them to be more aggressive and violent. They feel, they are in control and without repercussions for their actions. This doesn't mean, there is not a time. It means it's a tool, that has to be used properly.
I've heard in Japan, to qualify for police academy, one needs to have shodan in either judo, kendo or aikido. I was a bouncer while in school and we of course didn't have weapons or badges but the guys that did wrestling, bjj and judo, we were able to resolve physical situations with some very basic holds. Anyone we got hold of could tell straightaway they weren't getting loose until we were outside so they cooperated. Police need to have other tools in the tool box. Yes, my Black Life Matters. And, yes, we need police but they have got to start holding themselves, in a real way, to much higher standards of physical training, academic understanding of the communities they're policing as well as compassion. Fortunately judo contains aspects of all three!
I totally agree with you in the philosophy of Judo. Grasping the philosophy makes the learning the movements much easier, in my opinion.
It's understanding why you are doing something before you do it.
It would be a great benefit to teach these values of Martial Arts to police officers. Because the job is very stressful an officer has to think differently in the streets. I believe that judo and any Martial Arts from the west have great benefits. It is one of the top reasons a person should study for self-improvement and a strong philosophy of mutual understanding. From a lot of officers that I have spoken to Martial Arts is taught as a means of self-defense and not a philosophy. I know the Miami Police Department gives classes to there academy students in yoga to teach them breathing technics as a form of stress meditation.
Boxing at least!
Then they can learn to hit and block hits!
Judo would be it. It was meant not to harm ayone plus in Japan most police are shodan. BJJ is not because basically you dont want to do newaza with a gun strapped to your waist plus Judo covers all that BJJ has to teach.
A cop needs to learn to throw with minimum harm (judo) and apply osaikokmi coupled with quick hand cuff techniques...not wrestle some criminal who might have a blade in his shoe
Leave BJJ for kids and competition
its meant to keep the youth in the straight and narrow for those that are afraid to get thrown.... Judo has all that BJJ has but you gonna get thrown!
As a former military police officer, I would adapt Combat Judo, Sambo, Krav Maga and Ju Jutsu, to fit my needs on the field.
I actually think many excessive force cases could be solved by Police learning Judo/ BJJ/ Greco. I’d imagine many injuries caused by police are due to poor training and having to use brute strength. Grappling teaches how to incrementally increase and decrease the amount of force necessary to safely subdue an opponent.
You're right
This is a fantastic video. I have had this discussion many times with security guards I worked with. When it came down to altercations, my minimal knowledge of judo had proven much more effective than trading blows.
Would judo/jujitsu be an appropriate martial art for me as a security guard to learn?
Judo, Jiu-Jitsu, Wrestling. You need to be able to control another human being and these are the three best martial arts for it.
I don't know what exactly is happening in the US, but let us say judo becomes part of police training. Should they train with the gi or disregard it completely? and in general should judo have more no gi competitions like bjj?
They shouldnt require none so they stay bottom of the food chain with their gadgets against a fully trained warrior. Cops need to be at a disadvantage for the public to defend themselves cause who really wants to fight 5 cops trained in jiu-jitsu let alone one with a tazer a gun and metal beating stick.. it would just encourage more people to wield weapons against them. I like it how it is now you can easily knock a cop out and go about your business.
Maybe green belt qualified minimum for all LEOs. Would make them more confident and cool tempered if they're more proficient in non firearm engagements.
Additionally, if anyone hasn’t heard of him, a guy that ran for president recently and will be running again named Andrew Yang is a big proponent of grappling and MMA and had a really good idea of trying to make it mandatory for police to either have a purple belt in BJJ or actively
working up towards it. I know it doesn’t have judo in mind at the moment but it’s just refreshing to have a politician that has some good ideas.
Definitely. I think he said all cops should have Bjj purple belts. That would be really cool!
I think that all police departments should have budgets expanded, and with the increased funding:
1. Have tougher higher processes and more in-depth screenings to ensure that appropriate people are hired for the job.
2. Give higher pay to reward them for hard, dangerous work. And to retain the talent, and appeal to more qualified people.
3. Have longer, tough academies with more training in de-escalation/psychology/verbal judo/sociology and cultural awareness/effective grappling like Judo and BJJ.
4. With a larger police force and budget, cut the time on patrol in HALF, and pay them to spend all of that time training instead of on the beat.
The quality of policing in America would improve with that.
Politically, I'd give police more protections and immunities to use necessary force without fear of ideological prosecution. This way cops can crack down HARD on violent crime. At the same time, I would also decriminalize most NONVIOLENT crimes so that police don't have to waste their time on petty things like weed.
Only my opinion. I'm happy to hear everyone else's thoughts.
Judo+BJJ. If you know only judo/bjj, ur only learning half of the art. If a cop knew judo and bjj, they would defeat crinimals of all sizes without even drawing a firearm or their batons.
Judo should be the main version of martial arts that Police do. Many officers love bjj, I I aswell I do Judo an Bjj, but I'm always quick to jump in and remind them our encounters start standing and it's in our best interest to remain standing with subject on ground if need be,as opposed to grappling on the ground with the subject. Standing I can disengage if gets to crazy, transition to other tools, etc, those arent as easy to accomplish on the ground. Judo transitions have worked best for me, foot sweeps,hip toss, arm drags/underhooks , while holding onto the subjects arm while they go down is best. All the gear we wear really kills our mobility when on the ground. So for me personally, I lean on my Judo for Policing rather than my Bjj.
Foot sweeps can take you really far in law enforcement, the average person 99%, have terrible balance, coordination, body awareness, it sometimes feels like your tripping a toddler
What about Krav Maga, is it good for police officers since it’s used by special forces?
Judo, Jiu Jitsu, and a striking art. If you don’t understand range, it’s difficult to close the distance in order to execute a takedown if it’s needed.
Doesn't randori teach this? I get that being struck is a concern... but most assailants aren't Mike Tyson. Read: you might have to take a punch or two before getting a hold of them, but once you do... you should be in familiar territory.
Please cover this more in depth
Yes. It should be Judo with Aikido.
Officers should not be punching, kicking nor choking Citizens.
Can you show a ouchi gari (no gi)
Yes!
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I'm a cop and just want to express how much I appreciate your video. The "do" aspect of martial arts seems to get lost sometimes.
Thanks for the kind words. Good luck out there!!!
Judo is a great martial art. Greco Roman wrestling is good also as you said. The problem is that Judo takes a long time to get good at and most police I know spend very little time learning martial arts. A lot of police do train in martial arts on their own time, most seem to gravitate to Judo or Krav Maga but a vast majority of police do no additional training other than what they were taught at the academy and possibly an occasional mandatory refresher course.
Very true!
I think that all police departments should have budgets expanded, and with the increased funding:
1. Have tougher higher processes and more in-depth screenings to ensure that appropriate people are hired for the job.
2. Give higher pay to reward them for hard, dangerous work. And to retain the talent, and appeal to more qualified people.
3. Have longer, tough academies with more training in de-escalation/psychology/verbal judo/sociology and cultural awareness/effective grappling like Judo and BJJ.
4. With a larger police force and budget, cut the time on patrol in HALF, and pay them to spend all of that time training instead of on the beat.
The quality of policing in America would improve with that.
Politically, I'd give police more protections and immunities to use necessary force without fear of ideological prosecution. This way cops can crack down HARD on violent crime. At the same time, I would also decriminalize most NONVIOLENT crimes so that police don't have to waste their time on petty things like weed.
Only my opinion. I'm happy to hear everyone else's thoughts.
Can you get good at judo twice a week
Cops should learn judo
Sorry boxing and bjj but i completely agree that judo is ideal for law enforcement purposes. It isn't a police officers job to beat the hell out of people or maim them. Judo offers efficiency and isn't dependent on "fair fight" circumstances for success.
Growing up in NYC in 1950s on a block occupied by NYC cops and firemen, I would say a slapjack made up for years of martial arts training. Its a shame they are no longer allowed.
Judo is a good Idea for anyone, bodyguards, police, CIA use. Karate works great too, but can get you into trouble. In MMA the referee saves lives. Judo is dangerous and you could kill or disable its a big part of Japanese Jujutsu. Don't use additional force, lets say after you break or dislocate arm, because that will get you in Jail. So remember to shield and protect, keep Humble.
Lol. For years I've survived in my work as an ED Nurse with a boxers guard and foot drills and osto gari or tia otoshi into kesa. Totally agree. I train judo, boxing and bjj. I'm also glad you talked about the professional image aspect everyone has a smart phone and they only want to share what the want folk to see. never looks good if a police officer, paramedic nurse, Dr etc starts Punching folk
I believe Tokyo police do not carry guns and train a lot of judo, no?
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Mandatory judo training and either Kendo or Judo black belt is necessary to be in the force.
And large police stations has Judo dojo with classes open to public, hosting areal joint judo training officiated by 3-7dan black belts(some competes as well)
As restraining of a fugitive goes, I see kesagatame all the time when officer takes somn down
So it’s way more grafted into the system, and doing much more to the community
As for the guns, they do carry it in some areas regularly, but they have to warn three times before shooting and need tons of paper work to fill after by pulling a gun out. Lol
It’s very different coz it’s way safer and not often requires fire arm
Yep. No guns. Also very little crime in Japan though
AceInose wow, BB police officers! Just the discipline needed to achieve that rank would be a great thing to have.
important bit i think is that if they do learn judo they should play opposite hand - people may not know that righty and lefty in judo are opposite of what those would be in boxing - this is important here in the US because righties carry their gun on the right hip which you'd want to keep away from someone, and certainly not turn that hip into the opponent just unconsciously. So Yes I 100% agree - but if you're a right shooter, then play judo lefty and vice versa.
This msg needs to get out into the world. I also think the police need 2 mandatory requirements physically fit and grappling experience (preferably Judo). It’ll keep all the guys out who get to trigger happy when the situation doesn’t call for it.
Well said Shintaro. Always support the police, the vast majority are very decent people doing a thankless job. Ps big fan of the channel. Keep posting the videos please
In my country, Police Officer learn Silat. It was because silat is include striking and have some kind of takedown.
Shintaro would a green belt in judo help you get a job as a police officer? What do u think?
Pls reply
Judo is good, but I think there should also be some Greco or Folkstyle wrestling. Judo and Greco focus on takedowns with grips above the waist, so you don't hurt your knees shooting for a double. Wrestling in general, along with Judo but mainly wrestling, focuses on pins. I think pinning and controlling is most optimal for law enforcement.
How good would be other uniform throwing arts instead of judo? For example shuaijiao, sambo, local jacket wrestling traditions, etc
That’s a Cat.2 use of force and protocols apply, if you taser that is a Cat.2 use of force. The use of force guideline applies in every use of force incident, you can’t just do a judo throw because it’s effective, you have you use the least amount of force possible to gain control.
Judo grip fighting kumi kata alone would teach police officers how not to get their gun grabbed away from them. Also great self-defense for women. If you cannot be grabbed you cannot be thrown on the ground. I have never seen this drilled in BJJ. It has helped me survive against BJJ blackbelts who were better than me.
The unfortunate fact is, that police officers in my opinion need to carry drug overdosage treatment kits, and forcibly administer diagnoses and treatments on the field in front of everyone, their friends and family.
People like george fl yd pop up every second, and fentanyl killed him then and there. If we're going to actually help people, its the only way.
The best channel in martial arts...But the sound is very noisi and low volume, hard to understand, especially for me that am not native english speaker...Abot the question, i must say capoeira and boxing to learn to use the distance and execute a fast neutraolizing move
LOL, they censored the word Sambo. (I know what it means in English-speaking countries, some people say Sombo instead)
Modified judo to reduce trauma especially head trauma I think you mentioned that not sure and augmented with high percentage Wrestling clich work again modified as we don’t want trauma from an overzealous suplex. Thanks for the video
judo very handy in policing. wrestlers are great fighters too. good point
Judo or Wrestling and Boxing is a great combination.
osaekomi waza is a huge benefit just being able to hold someone in place effectively till they've blown their wad is priceless. Something I think modern bjj kinda forgets about. Tend to focus to much on the submission sometimes
I love shintaro ! such a great guy and judoka !
Thank you yes! Also to have attention guided towards THE WAY
judo,jiu jitsu, hapkido(lot of locks...kansetsu)
Me too. I’ve been saying it for years.
What an outstanding video!
It's exceedingly difficult to control an attacker without harming them. I know dozens of (traditional) Jujutsu waza which, in theory, should... but in application? I'm 1 for 2 (having successfully applied a wrist lock once, but inadvertently taken an elbow on another occasion). Judo, provides an excellent alternative IMO. No striking, no small joint manipulation. More importantly, competency can be developed fairly quickly and it can be practiced safely in a "live" environment. Ideal for law enforcement (or taming drunk uncles).
Yes, the full body control I think is very useful against flailing limbs. IF you can get close enough.
Greetings from Finland ! I 100% agree with u that Judo is the best martial art for cops and i can see where this video coming from.... in our country, to become a police officer u have to go through police univercity which last at least 3 years.... and u have to be there like 1.5 years before u get any combat training and before that u have to have a strict clean criminal record with psycological test passed...And even in strait cases where bad guy shoots a police and police shoots back,theres gonna be a hell of a media storm from that where the police justified to use a firearm. In our country, people trust the law and police officers
That is a great system! I think in the US its like 6 months
Most states you can still pin people.
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Agreed. Thanks.
Great video!
Hello Shintaro,
I don't know if you ever addressed the following in your previous videos and its a rather controversial one: What do you think about decision by IJF to ban leg grabs in shiai? Do you think it was a good decision or a poor one? Do you think it improved Judo as a Martial Art and a sport or stifled it and made it less relevant in the grappling meta in comparison to say Sambo or Olympic Wrestling? I would love to hear your opinion about it! :)
I think they needed to in order to distinguish themselves from wrestling for the Olympics. I think the rule changes helped shape the way judo is currently today. I think it was a good move from a sport perspective but not from a martial perspective. I definitely miss them!
@@Shigashi84 Thank you so much and I more or less agree!
I think the guidelines were probably geared more towards avoiding incidents where people who have certain medical conditions have their diaphragms squeezed and as a result suffer breathing problems
I just wish IJF just return all the stuff they took away, especially the leg attacks. With the exception of Kani Basami which should still be restricted but its new version (post hand on the mat) still taught in schools.
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I would say, Kickboxing & Judo is all law enforcement needs
Lots of good arguments for judo here. But a strong kuzushi oriented aikijutsu goes further on the same points.
You don't any need martial arts when your fights consist of dogpiling one person with five people. The best martial art for police would be whatever is least effective for beating their spouses with (maybe ninjitsu or wing chun), which they do at a rate 4x that of the general public.
I love Judo. But to teach to a police officer who is fully armed and kills people, I think the police force are overfunded and over trained in killing. In my opinion, we should teach the police force on the rule of law and following that law. Right at the moment, all I see are police gangs who bullies the very people they should protect. They have forgotten the community, not to mention their own morals and honesty.
I think unfortunately if police officers started doing judo to citizens, people who don’t train will immediately object, regardless of how controlled the cop is doing it. Punches look bad on camera but judo throws look just as violent, if not more. Plus, that would require getting every cop to learn judo enough that they could be controlled and be able to hit various techniques and throws from all different positions. That level of skill takes time. However, in BJJ, you could only have 6 months training and be much safer. you don’t have to pin them in side control or put pressure on their diaphragm. If you keep a kimura grip or knee on hip you can maintain great control. And let’s not pretend that judo trains you for multiple opponents, it just potentially give you the opportunity to violently dispatch of the first opponent while hopefully not going down with them. But cops shouldn’t do that so
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In japan, all officers are trained with Judo and never seen once that they threw somn
Hold, trip and into the group with control is the major method and very rarely as officers gets attacked, or held from behind, throws those come in play. Which can be similar to BJJ in that context.
But yeah, in America, if somn officer Ipponseoi a fugitive into a concrete breaking that person, there will be some riot
Absolutely none. There'll all scum. The institution needs to be abolished.
I’m a strong individualist, near anarchist, believer in self reliance. But unless you want to see your neighbors rank themselves out in strongest to weakest hierarchies- with lots of death to punctuate the ranks- some policing is necessary.
@@avenuex3731 Saying that something needs to be gotten rid of, doesn't mean nothing should go in its place. Modern police forces are beyond reform and systems for community safety need to be completely redesigned.
@Reed I've refrained from being a coward lackey of the state that harrasses and terrorizes working and poor people for a living.
Feral Worker I don’t disagree with all of that. As I said, I am a big supporter of a mature and self reliant society. Unfortunately the abuses we see in law enforcement stem from a society that demands it through their collective actions. The relationship as of late is descending into a macro scale Das Experiment.
But when mature communities are self policed by individuals with mutual concern in place, there is no need for police at all. No one breaks the contract because all understand the consequences of doing so. And no external authority is necessary. But doing the opposite begs the harshest response, because not doing so invites barbarism.
To harmonize with Shintaro’s point however, the police response cannot in like terms demand the harshest response from society and expect to remain legitimate. So, a better way to engage the citizenry is imminently needed. Thus, judo, aikido or rather jujitsu and aikijutsu are excellent candidates to accomplish this. I’m not in favor of arts that get too deep into grappling, because too often it requires a lethal end ( ...”he reached for my weapon...”) or ties the officer up while other bad actors show up. Very dangerous. Often a worse situation emerges. But good to know your way on the ground if you should get there. So, newaza at every practice.
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Great display of why America already lost its respect from the rest of the world.
Goood luck in November, and hope ur vote counts
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