Sally Vee quite a few of their gymnasts showed tons of promise, yet their coaches never allowed them to realize it. I’m thinking of Andreea Munteanu, Stefania Stanila, Anamaria Ocolisan, Laura Jurca, Andreea Iridon, Ioana Crisan and Denisa Golgota in particular.
@Sally Vee I heard there was some investigation into the fact that the girls were over worked at a very young age. I wonder if they have different coaching standards now.
@Sally Vee that's because in Romania children do not want to do gymnastic anymore. Just think that in 2016 we had 100 gymnasts in the entire country (in 2020 much less) , while in the US there are 4 million children who do gymnastic. In the past was different,today parents don't let their children do gymnastic , too much work and we do not have recreational gymnastic.
@Sally Vee in Romania there is no level of recreational gymnastics, or lower levels of competition, nothing. In Romania, gymnastics has become an elitist sport and not a mass sport, its main purpose being to collect prizes, medals and life annuities and not to attract as many children to practice it, so the basis of selection it has shrunk from one Olympic edition to another. We didn't qualify for Rio and we don't have a team for Tokio.
Oh yes. Romania and the USSR dominated the sport for years. The USSR sort fell apart when the USSR collapsed so instead of one powerhouse it was all different countries competing.
It is interesting to see how the body type has evolved from quite skinny and fragile (almost malnourished) to very muscular, athletic and compact. Swimmers and footballers have gone through the same transition.
Imelda M Definitely malnourished in older days- you can find a lot of horror stories about how little the gymnasts were allowed to eat. Modern gymnasts look much more healthy and powerful which, even though problem still exist, is something I’m really glad to see.
Yes they look much healthier now. I think the logic was if they are light they can jump higher - but I don’t know how some of them had the strength and energy for routines when they were underfed. Keeping in mind of course some people are naturally slender, but if that’s not your natural body type it must have been tough. And Simone proves that a muscular gymnast can do amazing things!
Not without conflict, that's for sure. Simone got a lot of racist remarks from European competitors about not upholding the "balletic" and "graceful" body standard of gymnastics
I’m sure she had naturally curly hair. You didn’t get short perms in the 80s like an old lady-perms were for big hair. You could be proud of thick curly hair back then-people were jealous and no one snarked at you to get it straightened.
I applause all of them, this must be hard!! Like I say she is a rocket, the others perfection easily and light, I don't know, I put in slow motion to see, is just beautiful ❤️
I prefer Sandra Izbașa's routine. She was the only one who combined perfectly power and difficulty with GRACE. The others were like robots, almost not human. Well, except maybe for Daniela Silivaș, who paradoxically while dancing like a robot transmitted more humanity than the others.
Lavinia Milosovici's routine actually made my jaw drop. It's spectacular. Such energy. I can't find the words to describe how impressed I am! Just... spectacular.
The first springs were introduced to the Gymnastics floor exercise in1978/79 and were only about 2 inches. As the 80s,90s and 00s progressed so did the springs, going from 2 to 4 to 6, to the current 8 inch springs which in turn allows the gymnasts to perform more difficult skills.
Mike M Knowing that, makes one really appreciate the tumbling, jumps and leaps from the 1976 Olympians like Nadia Comenici and Nelli Kim. Wow - back in the day, you basically had a layer of carpeting over the flooring. It’s amazing to think how hard it was to finish their double backs and land on their feet. Their ankles were very sore, for sure.
@@ShelleeGraham With all due respect, our levels were not nearly as hard as the gymnast of the past 20 years. The skills performed in the 80's are performed easily on mats by the top 40 HS cheerleading squads of the US.
So many people were complaining about how gymnastics was moving away from ballet and "not elegant". Biles dancing in a hiphop manner fits more to what gymnastics is, explosive, high energy tumbling. Ballet is an art that tells a story (and to my very quick google search) does not tumble while gymnastics is a sport. We dont ask them to be elegant while performing a valt or balance beam routines.
What if they change the name from "artistic" to "acrobatic" gym? And call "artistic" the now called "rhitmic gym"? The rhitmic girls are really elegant and feminine...
Romania are the queens on the floor!! How ultra awesome was Szabo! One of the coolest routines ever, mixing grace and athleticism. Daniela's 2nd pass was just class, literally 2 passes in a row and her funky robotic moves were GOLD. Aly's routine while powerful seemed stiff, which thankfully wasn't the case of the excellent Biles! Its interesting how over the games, the floors have moved from 3 to 4 floor passes. This compile is so brilliant. I would love to see Romania on top of the table once again!
This is absolutely fascinating to watch the evolution of gymnastics. I loved the artistry of the earlier routines and the incredible power and athleticism of the current gymnasts, but for me, the perfect blend of both is Lavinia Milosovici! Absolutely beautiful!
My thoughts as well - was going to make a similar post. Her routine was super fun - helped by the fact that she _dances_ and is clearly enjoying herself.
Talking about thin bodies to the point of malnutrition, watch Comaneci. She's very quick in the air and when she's spinning, she briefly disappears. Their weight and so on was strictly monitored, both in Romania and Russia.They were fierce rivals and both teams fought hard for medals. At that time, there's no way they would be allowed to have strong, muscular bodies like Biles.
@Macdealerx But they had springs. The first were introduced in the late 70s, so Moscow 1980 were the first games with them. They were smaller, but they had them.
In Nadia's days the floor had no springs. It was a simple bare wooden floor with a very thin carpet. It started to evolve in the early 90's to accommodate the skills that required more height and force. The early 90s started with simple springs and now in Simone Bile's days there's springs in between wood and a thick carpet. Saying that Nadia was not as strong as the other gymnasts shoes just how ignorant you are.
every time i see lavinia milosovici on floor at barcelona olympics finals, every time i see her waving to the public and then crying in a mix of satisfaction and relief, i get emotional too. i remember this day very vividly because barcelona games was the first olympic games i remember almost everything. i was 14 years old at that time.
that's changing bcs a lot of the romanian gymnasts emigrated to the US, Nadia Comeneci, Bela and Marta Karolyi are US gymnastics now, for example...so, not really a mystery
its so sweet to think that Aly idolized Lilia and as a kid was obsessed with her floor routine and then she grew up to be a olympic champion on floor as well ❤🙊
I will NEVER forget Ali’s “Ali’s Fight to the Finish!” It was beautiful & perfect when she landed that final dismount! It was so exciting! And I will also NEVER forget Kayla Maroney’s STUCK VAULT!
@@adeleennis2255- I will always remember Lilia's floor routine and that iconic music. She did the same routine earlier in 1996 at the Europeans in Birmingham, where that routine got her 9.912. She just edged out the great Svetlana Boginskaya by the tiniest margin. I also loved watching Simona Amanar, Svetlana Khorkina and Dominique Moceanu from that era.
Ponor's routine was beautiful. Her dance elements were artistic and controlled; so many gymnasts treat them as something they have to make it through as gracelessly as possible.
Lilipod and Izbasa's routines were genius... The music choice is perfect for each of them, the choreo fits perfectly the music while building the energy of an Olympic-winning moment, and the tumbling passes are tailored for their respective COP.
Incredible to see not only how the sport has evolved, but it was also a wonderful snapshot at how much filming of live sports has evolved! The quality of the video from 2016 is something they could have only dreamed of 40 years ago!
Still can’t get over how clean ally routine was the entire performance. It was absolutely stunning and amazing!!!!!! Still get chills to this day when I watch it.
These were all wonderful. I do wish you would have included Olga Korbut’s mesmerizing performance of 1972 (gold medal performance). Maybe her moves weren’t as difficult as recent gymnasts, but she revolutionized gymnastics, and her charisma and charm have never been equaled. If I had to rate them, I couldn’t but I do think the best gymnasts of all time are Olga Korbut for revolutionizing the sport, Nadia Comaneci for her perfect form and innovation and finally, Simone Biles. Ms. Biles has exhibited the most difficult and precise gymnastics I have ever seen. All three are incredible.
Can we take a minute to talk about how completely unique Lilia Podkopayeva's routine was?? I had to rewind to watch it a second time because I was so blown away!
I remember daniela silivas the most... she is athletic, graceful and funky -- a rare combination in a gymnast... and then, there is ecaterina szavo too...
That floor routine by Daniela Silivaș is my favorite of all time. But not the one she performed for the individual gold. You can see that she messes up a little on her first tumbling pass. When she performed it in the all-round competition a few days before this, it was absolute perfection. I've never been so wowed by a floor routine as I was that one. Part of it ws probably the music too. Never forgot it. Never will.
I remember when Sandra Izbasa performed her floor final back in 2008 Beijing and after I knew she was going to win. I was a little sad because I wanted Shawn Johnson to win so badly but I knew after seeing Sandra's routine it was over.
the Barcelona olympics was really when I became aware of olympic gymnastics. All the family sat down to watch Lavinia's floor performance with baited breath, praying she would stick her landings. I was only 7 at the time but I remember thinking that she was the most amazing, beautiful thing in the world.
@@robynzelickson6164 Double twisitng double back is named after her debuting it in Seoul 1988, The only one to successfully perform it was Aleftina Priakhina in 1986, but she never got to debute her HEAVY arsenal of moves due to never making it to a Worlds or Olympics
I'm not a gymnast, but comparing some of the ladies form to Simone's form, their legs were not very tucked and tight. Simone was very compact in the air. She truly is amazing.
I read in the comments that as they allowed more inches in the springs under the boards. The more things they can do. I know absolutely nothing about gymnastics but that makes sense to me.
Wow, from the 90' things got hella difficult and athletic and every clip got more and more spectacular. Every time I thought "wow, she's the best so far" and the next girl was even better. This till Sandra Izbașa, she was PERFECT that day. Amazing!
When you watch this there is no denying Simone’s athletic and acrobatic superiority. You may not think she is graceful but her gymnastic ability is like nothing we have seen before! 2021 is already in the bag, the only thing that will stop her she is an injury and I pray hard this will never happen!
She may not be 'graceful' compared to, say, a ballerina. But Simone has a wonderful, polished style that deserves every bit as much credit. People keep saying gymnasts like her are not 'artistic'. I don't know what they mean. Sounds like a matter of personal preference to me.
you should think about the technological evolution of the apparatus. In the eighties and nineties the apparatus were rudimentary compared to the current ones. Putting it in perspective, we see how the gymnasts were exceptional at that time.
She has zero grace , 20-30 years ago such gymnasts could not make it to the top, there was more emphasis on artistry, just as in figure skating. Sports medicine also advanced and the floor is more springy allowing them to push for more rotations. You have to take each gymnast in the context she competed in.
Trespasser I don’t agree that 20/30 years ago she would not have made it. Dominque Dawes had no grace but dynamic power and they played to that just like Simone and she thrived! Kelli Hill said that herself
Yvonne Saunders girl, I think Simone is amazing and clearly the goat but her artistic side is nonexistent. Having said that her dwts partner has choreographed her new routine so I’m hoping for an improvement
Daniela Silivas es arte puro en estos ejercicios gimnasticos. Verla elevarse como una pluma, flotar y caer con gracia, siempre con esa sonrisa. Fuera de competencia, es única.
You should have shown Nadia Comaneci at 76 games in my opinion that was her height of career. Amazing too. Blows anyone else out of the water, past or present, and no springs in the floor either. Her bars routine is miles better than anyone today too. She was simply the GOAT.
Yea her difficultly wouldn't even be considered elite. You are comparing two different times. I love Nadia. I think I wore out the VHS watching her story when I was a kid. But the difficulty of today is miles ahead of that time. And springs aren't exactly a trampoline. They give some extra "bounce" but they are more for shock absorption and to prevent potential injuries to lower extremity joints of gymnasts due to the nature of the apparatus, which includes the repeated pounding required to train it.
@@trinalittlefield6294 You said: "They give some extra "bounce" but they are more for shock absorption and to prevent potential injuries" Exactly! Put Nadia and Simone Biles or anyone really on equipment of the 70's and ask them to do the same routine. Nadia is winning it. Simone wouldn't be able to do all those difficult skills she does today and I'm not putting her down for it, she shouldn't be able to. Even so, skills aside Nadia had artistry and grace like a ballerina too. Simone would lose on artistry points and maybe tie on skills, and I'm being generous on that as I actually think Nadia wins on skills too, but Simone is brilliant too just not the GOAT in my opinion.
@@vaskylark they used foam block floors in 76. Simone did a standing full on a baseball field before she threw out the first pitch. I'm not saying she could throw her triple triple, but she'd be ok. Clearly you don't understand Gymnastics. Nadia is a beautiful gymnast for her time, but comparing her to today's athletes and saying it's "just equipment" isn't accurate. Back then, it was a whole different era of gymnastics than as we know it now. The rules and the difficulty level of the routines weren’t anywhere near what we see Biles and her contemporaries perform.
@@trinalittlefield6294 I disagree and I've been following the sport since 1976, even watching the US Nationals on my wedding night back in 1991 haha. I performed on the uneven parallel bars back in the 70's as that was my best event and I was doing skills that are now banned today. I really hate the arrogance of youth to always think they are better and know more than past generations. It couldn't be farther from the truth. The crappy equipment makes the difficulty even harder than today for one. NObody today could do their same routines on the equipment from the 70's and that is a fact. Also, in todays gymnastics we have zero artistry and grace so we constantly see wobbles. It looks more like circus performers to me than a sport that is called artistic gymnastics. Back in the 70's it was half acrobatics and half ballet moves, and on equipment that absorbs zero shock. No, I think 70's gymnastics was far superior and far more difficult. I don't think any gymnasts of today measure up to the gymnasts of the 70's.
@vaskylark Your comment makes absolutely no sense.All sports evolve. Basketball in the 90's was way more exciting than in the 70's and 80's primarily because of the athleticism and high flying dunks. A gymnast using a 70's style today wouldn't win jack because even the judges criteria has evolved to conform to today's athleticism. The level of difficulty compared to the 70's is incomparable.Furthermore Simone Biles has 5(FIVE) routines named in her honor. I can't name a single one of Comaneci's. Perhaps you can help
I like Lavinia Miloșovici's routine, but I feel like she cleverly decided to incorporate a forward bounce into most landings so that the pressure of making perfect stiff landings would be reduced/eliminated.
Romania had the most beautiful and talented gymnasts! Such grace, fluidity, like poetry for the eyes. Gymnastics shouldn’t be only about tumbling, but also grace and artistry
Before 1992, half points from compulsory/optional rounds carried into final, top score 20.00. Score for final routine in parentheses. 1980 - Comaneci/Kim: 19.875 (9.95) 1984 - Szabo: 19.975 (10.00) 1988 - Silvas: 19.937 (9.987) Starting in 1992, only the final scores counted. Top score 10.00 1992 - Milosovici: 10.00 1996 - Podkopayeva: 9.887 2000 - Zamolodchikova: 9.850 2004 - Ponor: 9.750 From 2008, modern scoring system in place. No upper bound to scores. Top possible score varies for each gymnast. 2008 - Izbasa: 15.650 2012 - Raisman: 15.600 2016 - Biles: 15.966
@@MrVardaman How did Biles score 15.966 when she nearly fell at the end of her routine. 15.966 out of what? That new scoring system is confusing. If there is a different possible score for each gymnast, how is comparison done to previous years etc? And how is this score even determined?
@@sherwinpeters7397 her difficulty was 6.9 so her max possible score was 16.9. The score is a combination of difficulty and execution, with 10 max for execution. Her execution was 9.066
@@sherwinpeters7397 the reason the max score differs is because of difficulty. They all have a max 10 in execution. More difficult routines have higher d-scores. Comparing scores over time was never as easy as people think. Max scores varied back then, too, since you could start below a 10 of you didn't have enough difficulty. (Probably not in event finals where I suspect all or nearly all finalists had 10 0 start values), not to mention the values of individual elements have changed a lot.
@@thesovgc Why? Just because he didn't fall on his knees and pray for god Simone Biles? Not everyone loves muscular gymnasts and the current gymnastics. I think Artistic Gymnastics ended in 2004 (except Sandra, Nastia and some other gymnasts in 2008) and now we have just Acrobatic Gymnastics. The beauty is gone.
@@rannyter lol the irony! I don't enjoy Biles' gymnasts at all. I like Izbasa's routine but it can't hold a candle artistically to many of the greats from the 80s and 90s, i.e. Strazheva's Rite of Spring, Boguinskaia's Carmen, Omelianchik's Birdie routine, etc.
Loved seeing Nastia back there clapping for a Sandra during her routine. Speaks to why Nastia was so loved and respected by Others. I noticed during the AA many others would watch clap during Nastia’s routines especially her final floor routine.
It’s incredible to see how slim gymnasts used to be back then yet they still had the power and strength to do all the flips. People might think slim means fragile or weak but boy they proved you wrong because look at that immense strength to do those flips and twists!
Daniela Silivas, so awesome. Beautifully poised, awesome muscularity,form and CHARISMA. Just stunning. Gymnasts are like human fireworks. Dazzling and powerful.
Catalina Ponor was the first of these that I remember watching live. I was 16 at the time and I remember shouting into the kitchen 'MUM! Why couldn't I do gymnastics?!' Her response? Too expensive. It is though.
NADIA bola charizmatická, veľmi talentovaná a vynikajúca v tvrdej svetovej konkurencii. Pred rozdelením Československa som niekoľko rokov sledovala všetky dostupné gymnastické športové prenosy 😍NADIA was charismatic, very talented and excellent in tough world-class competition. Before the division of Czechoslovakia, I watched all available gymnastic sports broadcasts for several years...
I can't lie, as soon as Simone did her first pass, you could just see how ahead she is versus a lot of these other winners. The height, power, and skill in her is just incredible!!! Can't wait to see her this next olympics!
These young women embody such grace, courage, power, artistry, beauty, balance, strength, guts and did I mention courage? Wow. They move me to tears! Incredible. More please.
The Romanian team received warm receptions everywhere at the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics because they refused to go along with the Soviet boycott. Szabo, being a Romanian gymnast using American music for her routine, was a definite crowd pleaser for the fiercely anti-Soviet American audience of the 80's. Ironically, Mary Lou Retton, the American Sweetheart from the 84 Games, used Romanian folk music for her floor exercise.
Technically, noone has ever(till possibly Simone if 2021happens) beaten Nadia. She was simply, THE BEST. Artistic, graceful, strong, precise. Pure pleasure to watch.
@@catalinagrecu5636 Well considering gymnastics is a subjective sport, I am fine with your attempt at demeaming my opinion. When Simone(or anyone else for that matter) has scored 7 perfect scores(at 14 years old) in one Olympic game and 2 more 4 years later, Come back and talk with me then. 🕊️
Wow. I didn’t realize how dominate the Romanians were on floor until very recently.
Sally Vee quite a few of their gymnasts showed tons of promise, yet their coaches never allowed them to realize it. I’m thinking of Andreea Munteanu, Stefania Stanila, Anamaria Ocolisan, Laura Jurca, Andreea Iridon, Ioana Crisan and Denisa Golgota in particular.
@Sally Vee I heard there was some investigation into the fact that the girls were over worked at a very young age. I wonder if they have different coaching standards now.
@Sally Vee that's because in Romania children do not want to do gymnastic anymore. Just think that in 2016 we had 100 gymnasts in the entire country (in 2020 much less) , while in the US there are 4 million children who do gymnastic. In the past was different,today parents don't let their children do gymnastic , too much work and we do not have recreational gymnastic.
@Sally Vee in Romania there is no level of recreational gymnastics, or lower levels of competition, nothing. In Romania, gymnastics has become an elitist sport and not a mass sport, its main purpose being to collect prizes, medals and life annuities and not to attract as many children to practice it, so the basis of selection it has shrunk from one Olympic edition to another. We didn't qualify for Rio and we don't have a team for Tokio.
Oh yes. Romania and the USSR dominated the sport for years. The USSR sort fell apart when the USSR collapsed so instead of one powerhouse it was all different countries competing.
It is interesting to see how the body type has evolved from quite skinny and fragile (almost malnourished) to very muscular, athletic and compact. Swimmers and footballers have gone through the same transition.
Imelda M Definitely malnourished in older days- you can find a lot of horror stories about how little the gymnasts were allowed to eat. Modern gymnasts look much more healthy and powerful which, even though problem still exist, is something I’m really glad to see.
Yes they look much healthier now. I think the logic was if they are light they can jump higher - but I don’t know how some of them had the strength and energy for routines when they were underfed. Keeping in mind of course some people are naturally slender, but if that’s not your natural body type it must have been tough. And Simone proves that a muscular gymnast can do amazing things!
o6ina they are tested for steroids. It’s not steroids. It’s natural talent combined with incredibly hard work and perseverance .
Those abusers aren't running everything anymore.
Not without conflict, that's for sure. Simone got a lot of racist remarks from European competitors about not upholding the "balletic" and "graceful" body standard of gymnastics
simones form in the air is impeccable. Legs together, tight tucks, open layouts, and preparations for landing. She just floats
The one and only Simone Biles
And height she gets, it's insane compared to all the others! No wonder she sticks all her landings, she has all the time in the world.
Vgg
Really something else
She's my idol
Can you imagine someone like Daniela or Milo in today's gymnastics? They FLEW on wayyy harder floors. It would be a sight to behold!
Daniela Silivas' routine was so 80's with the afro perm, the worm, and the hiphop/jazzercise moves . love it!
I’m sure she had naturally curly hair. You didn’t get short perms in the 80s like an old lady-perms were for big hair. You could be proud of thick curly hair back then-people were jealous and no one snarked at you to get it straightened.
B C she actually stated in an interview that it was a perm :) She said people still give her a hard time for her hair back then lol.
@@ravenel2 Sorry, it was a perm. Wo cares, she looked fab with it anyway.
It's always nice to see a gymnast actually get into the choreography and look like they are enjoying it. I bet she felt so cool and modern.
@@ravenel2 My mom had a short perm in 1988. She was only 30.
simone is, of course, unbelievable; but aly raisman’s routine is also so amazing. she was always underrated.
Agreed, still to this day her 2012 winning routine is my favourite. Simone's speed and height is crazy though, she is unbelievable too
simone is over anything we have seen before. It is human capabilities at it's most.
yes, and her silver medal winning routine in Rio was wonderful too!
I applause all of them, this must be hard!! Like I say she is a rocket, the others perfection easily and light, I don't know, I put in slow motion to see, is just beautiful ❤️
I prefer Sandra Izbașa's routine. She was the only one who combined perfectly power and difficulty with GRACE. The others were like robots, almost not human. Well, except maybe for Daniela Silivaș, who paradoxically while dancing like a robot transmitted more humanity than the others.
Lavinia Milosovici's routine actually made my jaw drop. It's spectacular. Such energy. I can't find the words to describe how impressed I am! Just... spectacular.
totally agree.....so fluid and gracefull ...gorgeous
Agree. It's my favorite.
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Agreed My favourite... I have to say watching this raisman was the only one I had the same feeling watching
The first springs were introduced to the Gymnastics floor exercise in1978/79 and were only about 2 inches. As the 80s,90s and 00s progressed so did the springs, going from 2 to 4 to 6, to the current 8 inch springs which in turn allows the gymnasts to perform more difficult skills.
the thought of no springs hurts my knees
Of course there was a difference in the size of the springs!
Mike M Knowing that, makes one really appreciate the tumbling, jumps and leaps from the 1976 Olympians like Nadia Comenici and Nelli Kim. Wow - back in the day, you basically had a layer of carpeting over the flooring. It’s amazing to think how hard it was to finish their double backs and land on their feet. Their ankles were very sore, for sure.
@@ShelleeGraham With all due respect, our levels were not nearly as hard as the gymnast of the past 20 years. The skills performed in the 80's are performed easily on mats by the top 40 HS cheerleading squads of the US.
@@monicakelly6273 HS cheerleaders can do a Silivas? I would like to see a video. Plus the mats of the 80s are very different from nowadays mats.
Simone biles dancing to a Brazilian song in rio is just golden. What a smart choice of music 💙
Simone dancing? In another galaxy!
Copiou a ideia da Daiane dos Santos. Aliás, a Daiane foi a primeira ginasta a ousar se apresentar sem uma música clássica...
So many people were complaining about how gymnastics was moving away from ballet and "not elegant". Biles dancing in a hiphop manner fits more to what gymnastics is, explosive, high energy tumbling. Ballet is an art that tells a story (and to my very quick google search) does not tumble while gymnastics is a sport. We dont ask them to be elegant while performing a valt or balance beam routines.
not true, i’m brazilian and the song she chose has nothing to do with the rhythms we have here
What if they change the name from "artistic" to "acrobatic" gym? And call "artistic" the now called "rhitmic gym"? The rhitmic girls are really elegant and feminine...
Romania are the queens on the floor!! How ultra awesome was Szabo! One of the coolest routines ever, mixing grace and athleticism. Daniela's 2nd pass was just class, literally 2 passes in a row and her funky robotic moves were GOLD. Aly's routine while powerful seemed stiff, which thankfully wasn't the case of the excellent Biles! Its interesting how over the games, the floors have moved from 3 to 4 floor passes. This compile is so brilliant. I would love to see Romania on top of the table once again!
This is absolutely fascinating to watch the evolution of gymnastics. I loved the artistry of the earlier routines and the incredible power and athleticism of the current gymnasts, but for me, the perfect blend of both is Lavinia Milosovici! Absolutely beautiful!
I liked hers the best too!
Yeah, she did an entire tumbling pass with no run up. How do you just generate that momentum from a stand still?
Absolutely
Yup hers was the best. There was a balance of grace and power
Outstanding performance!
Daniela Silivas' routine is my favorite. Such beautiful fluidity. Not only a great gymnast, but also a talented dancer.
Oh Yeah, my favorite too.
So graceful!
My thoughts as well - was going to make a similar post. Her routine was super fun - helped by the fact that she _dances_ and is clearly enjoying herself.
She had amazing character as well on the floor , we loved her here in Egypt ❤
Salto bem alto.
Nadia Comaneci was not as strong as other gymnantics but her technique was the best of all time. Perfect technique.
@Macdealerx I know that. But its true. Back then the tecnique was better, nos they are more stronger
Talking about thin bodies to the point of malnutrition, watch Comaneci. She's very quick in the air and when she's spinning, she briefly disappears. Their weight and so on was strictly monitored, both in Romania and Russia.They were fierce rivals and both teams fought hard for medals. At that time, there's no way they would be allowed to have strong, muscular bodies like Biles.
@Macdealerx But they had springs.
The first were introduced in the late 70s, so Moscow 1980 were the first games with them.
They were smaller, but they had them.
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In Nadia's days the floor had no springs. It was a simple bare wooden floor with a very thin carpet. It started to evolve in the early 90's to accommodate the skills that required more height and force. The early 90s started with simple springs and now in Simone Bile's days there's springs in between wood and a thick carpet. Saying that Nadia was not as strong as the other gymnasts shoes just how ignorant you are.
every time i see lavinia milosovici on floor at barcelona olympics finals, every time i see her waving to the public and then crying in a mix of satisfaction and relief, i get emotional too. i remember this day very vividly because barcelona games was the first olympic games i remember almost everything. i was 14 years old at that time.
Me too
Romania is a country of gymnasts!!!
It used to be anyway. Don't know what happened but I hope they can find their way back
Country of top gymnasts, not anymore though.
Not anymore. Which is really sad
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that's changing bcs a lot of the romanian gymnasts emigrated to the US, Nadia Comeneci, Bela and Marta Karolyi are US gymnastics now, for example...so, not really a mystery
its so sweet to think that Aly idolized Lilia and as a kid was obsessed with her floor routine and then she grew up to be a olympic champion on floor as well ❤🙊
idolized?
mxnkeyboi the person she looked up to
Lilia actually trained in ballet. That’s why she looked so beautiful compared to more powerful routines. She was one of my favorite gymnasts to watch.
I will NEVER forget Ali’s “Ali’s Fight to the Finish!” It was beautiful & perfect when she landed that final dismount! It was so exciting! And I will also NEVER forget Kayla Maroney’s STUCK VAULT!
@@adeleennis2255- I will always remember Lilia's floor routine and that iconic music. She did the same routine earlier in 1996 at the Europeans in Birmingham, where that routine got her 9.912. She just edged out the great Svetlana Boginskaya by the tiniest margin. I also loved watching Simona Amanar, Svetlana Khorkina and Dominique Moceanu from that era.
Catalina going for that triple spin combination at the very beginning of her routine right in the corner. Super risky but so well done
Ponor's routine was beautiful. Her dance elements were artistic and controlled; so many gymnasts treat them as something they have to make it through as gracelessly as possible.
She was just perfect 💖
She's living on the edge that whole routine lol
did someone also notice Catalinas leotard? black with swarovskis, very cool
Yes that was unbelievably risky
Lilia's floor routine is a work of art. The leo, form, tumbling, uniqueness, dance....Love it!!!
No one can match her style and class to date❤
The six Romanians are a class above everyone else with their amplitude and balance. Lavinia Milosovici was out of this world.
Yes agree, Romania another level to USA
Lilipod and Izbasa's routines were genius... The music choice is perfect for each of them, the choreo fits perfectly the music while building the energy of an Olympic-winning moment, and the tumbling passes are tailored for their respective COP.
Can we all take a moment to aprecciate the focus and concentration you can see on their faces as they prepare for the big jumps? I'm amazed!
Aly Raisman, That first pass, that routine! My all time favorite gymnast. Well deserved!
Izbasa’s floor routine is my favorite! The music, the choreography, the landings just amazing.
Sandra Izbasa routine was just perfect, i dont think i've seen a more clean and elegant performance than this.
In the beginning of the video i thought i was seeing Romania National championships! Nadia's legacy has realy paid off! Love from Greece!
To be girl in Romania in 80 90 îs hard times, but we dream, we hope with this girls. What wonderful nigths.
Nadia just has the best combo of grace, athleticism, and dance elements
I am proud that romania is my country and i love the most Daniela Silivaș
Mihai Ene i love your name it is so lovely
@@katysage1874 thank you too
Daniela is one of my all time favorites. She was always a joy to watch
Who doesn't love Daniela; she's one of a kind! !!
And Nadia
Incredible to see not only how the sport has evolved, but it was also a wonderful snapshot at how much filming of live sports has evolved! The quality of the video from 2016 is something they could have only dreamed of 40 years ago!
I love Ponor's routine so early 00s, everything was Matrix inspired around that time. The turns at the start are gorgeous.
Still can’t get over how clean ally routine was the entire performance. It was absolutely stunning and amazing!!!!!! Still get chills to this day when I watch it.
Izbasa was so perfect that day.
So true!
Omg it seemed so effortless and she was just floating on air
it was like actual perfection. she had like no errors. absolutely gorgeous.
She sure was. Izbasa is a very classy champion, and she deserved all her success!!
@@riri_hins Every single landing looked like she had magnets on her feet gluing her to the floor, like zero wobbles or hesitations, that's amazing
These were all wonderful. I do wish you would have included Olga Korbut’s mesmerizing performance of 1972 (gold medal performance). Maybe her moves weren’t as difficult as recent gymnasts, but she revolutionized gymnastics, and her charisma and charm have never been equaled. If I had to rate them, I couldn’t but I do think the best gymnasts of all time are Olga Korbut for revolutionizing the sport, Nadia Comaneci for her perfect form and innovation and finally, Simone Biles. Ms. Biles has exhibited the most difficult and precise gymnastics I have ever seen. All three are incredible.
That first gymnast in white leotard is phenomenal!!!!!!? Not one foot wrong. Like a piece of elastic.... WOW
It's Nadia Comaneci!! She is a legend. 🙌
That first was Nadia Comenici m, after she had broken the 9.99 clock in 1976.
Can we take a minute to talk about how completely unique Lilia Podkopayeva's routine was?? I had to rewind to watch it a second time because I was so blown away!
I've been a gym fan a long time and of them all, I remember the most of LiliPods...all that front tumbling and her eponymous skill sticks with you.
She’s always been my favorite gymnast, I love her!
Sandra’s performance is magical. And the music she chose is just great.
unbelievable routines from the Romanians!💪❤️
Simone chose Brazilian rythms for Rio 2016
She's perfect!
But my favorite is still Silivas
Yes, it's the soundtrack of 2011's Rio movie.
I remember daniela silivas the most... she is athletic, graceful and funky -- a rare combination in a gymnast... and then, there is ecaterina szavo too...
That floor routine by Daniela Silivaș is my favorite of all time. But not the one she performed for the individual gold. You can see that she messes up a little on her first tumbling pass. When she performed it in the all-round competition a few days before this, it was absolute perfection. I've never been so wowed by a floor routine as I was that one. Part of it ws probably the music too. Never forgot it. Never will.
I remember when Sandra Izbasa performed her floor final back in 2008 Beijing and after I knew she was going to win. I was a little sad because I wanted Shawn Johnson to win so badly but I knew after seeing Sandra's routine it was over.
the Barcelona olympics was really when I became aware of olympic gymnastics. All the family sat down to watch Lavinia's floor performance with baited breath, praying she would stick her landings. I was only 7 at the time but I remember thinking that she was the most amazing, beautiful thing in the world.
Same here. We must be the same age.
Lilia’s routine was the most beautiful, charming and artistic, and it felt the music well.
I enjoyed Lavinia Milosovici's routine the best!! But the tumbling lines that Daniela Silivas did were insane! I miss gymnastics from that era :(
Silivas has a floor move named after her, doesn't she?
@@robynzelickson6164 Double twisitng double back is named after her debuting it in Seoul 1988, The only one to successfully perform it was Aleftina Priakhina in 1986, but she never got to debute her HEAVY arsenal of moves due to never making it to a Worlds or Olympics
@@Spartakieva so Silivas only performed it successfully in Seoul?
I enjoyed the older routines more... it showed true skill, grace and talent. Loved them. Romania is truly a country of gymnasts 😊
2020 and Sandra's routine in 2008 still amazing. Miss her so much 😭
I mean.... YES.. SHE WAS AMAZING 💖
I'm not a gymnast, but comparing some of the ladies form to Simone's form, their legs were not very tucked and tight. Simone was very compact in the air. She truly is amazing.
U didnt watch too much gymnastic, right?!
I read in the comments that as they allowed more inches in the springs under the boards. The more things they can do. I know absolutely nothing about gymnastics but that makes sense to me.
Yet Simone is still the only one able to pull those moves these days...
@Aleksandra Antohina No she's not.
@@NurseEdHubs but she will never top Nadia
Wow, from the 90' things got hella difficult and athletic and every clip got more and more spectacular. Every time I thought "wow, she's the best so far" and the next girl was even better. This till Sandra Izbașa, she was PERFECT that day. Amazing!
So many amazing athletes, so proud to be Romanian; I grew up rooting for these girls
Daniela Silivas's music is so 80s it made me cry
RUSSIA and Romania WOW 🤩
Elegance - power - creative ! ALL
Ni tanto!! Bastantes del montón!!
I couldn't even comprehend the tricks Simone did until they were in slow motion; amazing!
Same here! She a master at this.
Daniela Silivas' '88 fx is still one of my all time faves. Difficult + entertaining
nadia’s performance is such a legend
When you watch this there is no denying Simone’s athletic and acrobatic superiority. You may not think she is graceful but her gymnastic ability is like nothing we have seen before! 2021 is already in the bag, the only thing that will stop her she is an injury and I pray hard this will never happen!
She may not be 'graceful' compared to, say, a ballerina. But Simone has a wonderful, polished style that deserves every bit as much credit. People keep saying gymnasts like her are not 'artistic'. I don't know what they mean. Sounds like a matter of personal preference to me.
you should think about the technological evolution of the apparatus. In the eighties and nineties the apparatus were rudimentary compared to the current ones. Putting it in perspective, we see how the gymnasts were exceptional at that time.
She has zero grace , 20-30 years ago such gymnasts could not make it to the top, there was more emphasis on artistry, just as in figure skating. Sports medicine also advanced and the floor is more springy allowing them to push for more rotations. You have to take each gymnast in the context she competed in.
Trespasser I don’t agree that 20/30 years ago she would not have made it. Dominque Dawes had no grace but dynamic power and they played to that just like Simone and she thrived! Kelli Hill said that herself
Yvonne Saunders girl, I think Simone is amazing and clearly the goat but her artistic side is nonexistent. Having said that her dwts partner has choreographed her new routine so I’m hoping for an improvement
Daniela Silivas es arte puro en estos ejercicios gimnasticos. Verla elevarse como una pluma, flotar y caer con gracia, siempre con esa sonrisa. Fuera de competencia, es única.
Those images brought me joy and tears. So proud of my compatriots! Proud of Romania!
You should have shown Nadia Comaneci at 76 games in my opinion that was her height of career. Amazing too. Blows anyone else out of the water, past or present, and no springs in the floor either. Her bars routine is miles better than anyone today too. She was simply the GOAT.
Yea her difficultly wouldn't even be considered elite. You are comparing two different times. I love Nadia. I think I wore out the VHS watching her story when I was a kid. But the difficulty of today is miles ahead of that time. And springs aren't exactly a trampoline. They give some extra "bounce" but they are more for shock absorption and to prevent potential injuries to lower extremity joints of gymnasts due to the nature of the apparatus, which includes the repeated pounding required to train it.
@@trinalittlefield6294 You said: "They give some extra "bounce" but they are more for shock absorption and to prevent potential injuries" Exactly! Put Nadia and Simone Biles or anyone really on equipment of the 70's and ask them to do the same routine. Nadia is winning it. Simone wouldn't be able to do all those difficult skills she does today and I'm not putting her down for it, she shouldn't be able to. Even so, skills aside Nadia had artistry and grace like a ballerina too. Simone would lose on artistry points and maybe tie on skills, and I'm being generous on that as I actually think Nadia wins on skills too, but Simone is brilliant too just not the GOAT in my opinion.
@@vaskylark they used foam block floors in 76. Simone did a standing full on a baseball field before she threw out the first pitch. I'm not saying she could throw her triple triple, but she'd be ok. Clearly you don't understand Gymnastics. Nadia is a beautiful gymnast for her time, but comparing her to today's athletes and saying it's "just equipment" isn't accurate. Back then, it was a whole different era of gymnastics than as we know it now. The rules and the difficulty level of the routines weren’t anywhere near what we see Biles and her contemporaries perform.
@@trinalittlefield6294 I disagree and I've been following the sport since 1976, even watching the US Nationals on my wedding night back in 1991 haha. I performed on the uneven parallel bars back in the 70's as that was my best event and I was doing skills that are now banned today. I really hate the arrogance of youth to always think they are better and know more than past generations. It couldn't be farther from the truth. The crappy equipment makes the difficulty even harder than today for one. NObody today could do their same routines on the equipment from the 70's and that is a fact. Also, in todays gymnastics we have zero artistry and grace so we constantly see wobbles. It looks more like circus performers to me than a sport that is called artistic gymnastics. Back in the 70's it was half acrobatics and half ballet moves, and on equipment that absorbs zero shock. No, I think 70's gymnastics was far superior and far more difficult. I don't think any gymnasts of today measure up to the gymnasts of the 70's.
@vaskylark Your comment makes absolutely no sense.All sports evolve. Basketball in the 90's was way more exciting than in the 70's and 80's primarily because of the athleticism and high flying dunks. A gymnast using a 70's style today wouldn't win jack because even the judges criteria has evolved to conform to today's athleticism. The level of difficulty compared to the 70's is incomparable.Furthermore Simone Biles has 5(FIVE) routines named in her honor. I can't name a single one of Comaneci's. Perhaps you can help
It's especially much pleasure to see the very old footage in such a good quality. Thank you for this!
Wow I love the routine from ‘92! Also it blows my mind how Simone doesn’t even need the full floor to complete her passes
I like Lavinia Miloșovici's routine, but I feel like she cleverly decided to incorporate a forward bounce into most landings so that the pressure of making perfect stiff landings would be reduced/eliminated.
But doing those are also difficult and exert lots a energy making you more tired during your routine.
Ponor's routine was so dynamic and artistic--truly deservant of the gold!
Romania had the most beautiful and talented gymnasts! Such grace, fluidity, like poetry for the eyes. Gymnastics shouldn’t be only about tumbling, but also grace and artistry
Wish you could have posted what each routine scored, to give some perspective over the different scoring over the years.
Before 1992, half points from compulsory/optional rounds carried into final, top score 20.00. Score for final routine in parentheses.
1980 - Comaneci/Kim: 19.875 (9.95)
1984 - Szabo: 19.975 (10.00)
1988 - Silvas: 19.937 (9.987)
Starting in 1992, only the final scores counted. Top score 10.00
1992 - Milosovici: 10.00
1996 - Podkopayeva: 9.887
2000 - Zamolodchikova: 9.850
2004 - Ponor: 9.750
From 2008, modern scoring system in place. No upper bound to scores. Top possible score varies for each gymnast.
2008 - Izbasa: 15.650
2012 - Raisman: 15.600
2016 - Biles: 15.966
@Joshua Gibson
Thank you for posting the scores! 💕
@@MrVardaman How did Biles score 15.966 when she nearly fell at the end of her routine. 15.966 out of what? That new scoring system is confusing. If there is a different possible score for each gymnast, how is comparison done to previous years etc? And how is this score even determined?
@@sherwinpeters7397 her difficulty was 6.9 so her max possible score was 16.9. The score is a combination of difficulty and execution, with 10 max for execution. Her execution was 9.066
@@sherwinpeters7397 the reason the max score differs is because of difficulty. They all have a max 10 in execution. More difficult routines have higher d-scores. Comparing scores over time was never as easy as people think. Max scores varied back then, too, since you could start below a 10 of you didn't have enough difficulty. (Probably not in event finals where I suspect all or nearly all finalists had 10 0 start values), not to mention the values of individual elements have changed a lot.
Izbasa’s routine is my favourite of all gymnastics history.
It's a good routine but let's expand our horizons gurl.
I loved the music she used.
@@thesovgc Why? Just because he didn't fall on his knees and pray for god Simone Biles?
Not everyone loves muscular gymnasts and the current gymnastics.
I think Artistic Gymnastics ended in 2004 (except Sandra, Nastia and some other gymnasts in 2008) and now we have just Acrobatic Gymnastics.
The beauty is gone.
@@rannyter lol the irony! I don't enjoy Biles' gymnasts at all. I like Izbasa's routine but it can't hold a candle artistically to many of the greats from the 80s and 90s, i.e. Strazheva's Rite of Spring, Boguinskaia's Carmen, Omelianchik's Birdie routine, etc.
Love hers as well! It's amazing to watch again.
I had forgotten how absolutely perfect all of Sandra Izbasa’s landing were.
It TOTALY moves me to tears all of them. Just MAGICAL .
Loved seeing Nastia back there clapping for a Sandra during her routine. Speaks to why Nastia was so loved and respected by Others. I noticed during the AA many others would watch clap during Nastia’s routines especially her final floor routine.
13:57 that was incredible! I had to watch it several times, the flip after she landed was so smooth and she landed it perfectly. Amazinggg
It’s incredible to see how slim gymnasts used to be back then yet they still had the power and strength to do all the flips. People might think slim means fragile or weak but boy they proved you wrong because look at that immense strength to do those flips and twists!
That first pass of Lavinia Miloşovici is so genius 😶
Yes, her floor routine in Barcelona 92 is just magic
I'm a simone fan but DAM_!!!!!
ALL of these routines were off the charts.
Bravo ladies!
Daniela Silivas, so awesome. Beautifully poised, awesome muscularity,form and CHARISMA. Just stunning. Gymnasts are like human fireworks. Dazzling and powerful.
Izbasa:elegance, technique, strength...the best routine
Catalina Ponor was the first of these that I remember watching live. I was 16 at the time and I remember shouting into the kitchen 'MUM! Why couldn't I do gymnastics?!'
Her response? Too expensive. It is though.
Simone! She almost commands respect on that floor. Insane
The choreography was fluid and not so choppy as it is today. Much more graceful. I miss that
100 percent
I would agree with you if it weren't for the 1988 routine with the worm and the robot moves
I loved Daniela Silivas' routine. It was amazing
i love the older floor routines
Nadia and Nelli’s routines were far from equal! Nadia deserved that gold medal alone...
Hum 🤔.. But Nelli's routine was more difficult.. I think both deserved the medal 💖
Nellie's landings were sometimes messy and i don't understand why her and nadie tied up
Nelli was URSS, Nadia not. 30 min we waited in the nigth
Simone's routine was so full of joy, it just made me smile ^_^
8.) Daniela Silivas was the best one hands down!
Silivas, Podkopayeva, Ponor, Zamolochikova ,Izbaza, Milosovici 🥰🥰🥰
I agree, the floor routine of Podkopayeva in Atlanta 96, ,and Milosovici in Barcelona 92, are just pure magic
The Aly Raisman routine is my favorite. Incredible athlete
millosovici connections is the one to die for, so dynamic. But these all people are so powerful ✨✌️
NADIA bola charizmatická, veľmi talentovaná a vynikajúca v tvrdej svetovej konkurencii. Pred rozdelením Československa som niekoľko rokov sledovala všetky dostupné gymnastické športové prenosy 😍NADIA was charismatic, very talented and excellent in tough world-class competition. Before the division of Czechoslovakia, I watched all available gymnastic sports broadcasts for several years...
lavinia’s routine is so underrated imo
I can't lie, as soon as Simone did her first pass, you could just see how ahead she is versus a lot of these other winners. The height, power, and skill in her is just incredible!!! Can't wait to see her this next olympics!
These young women embody such grace, courage, power, artistry, beauty, balance, strength, guts and did I mention courage? Wow. They move me to tears! Incredible. More please.
Szabo’s music is very interesting. Gershwin’s rhapsody, camptown races, american in paris, dixie, and glory hallelujah.
Did they give Milo that same music in 1996? I guess it’s for US Games only lol
The Romanian team received warm receptions everywhere at the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics because they refused to go along with the Soviet boycott. Szabo, being a Romanian gymnast using American music for her routine, was a definite crowd pleaser for the fiercely anti-Soviet American audience of the 80's. Ironically, Mary Lou Retton, the American Sweetheart from the 84 Games, used Romanian folk music for her floor exercise.
O’My Gosh I remember the girl from Romania , at Barcelona she was Fabulous, dancing to Bugle Boy, she was so much Fun to watch !
Love how you can see Ali mouth "wow" to herself right after she finished. She was 100000000% "in the zone".
Technically, noone has ever(till possibly Simone if 2021happens) beaten Nadia. She was simply, THE BEST. Artistic, graceful, strong, precise. Pure pleasure to watch.
În ur Dreams baby, just în ur Dreams!!!!!
@@catalinagrecu5636 Well considering gymnastics is a subjective sport, I am fine with your attempt at demeaming my opinion. When Simone(or anyone else for that matter) has scored 7 perfect scores(at 14 years old) in one Olympic game and 2 more 4 years later, Come back and talk with me then. 🕊️
Nastia Liukins 2008 floor routine is one of my all time favorites but when Izbasa went up and crushed it, I was floored. So good
omg Simone's performance is truly a joy to watch. The energy and charm are just pouring of her and she can leap like a gazelle. Amazing!
Lavinia Milosivici. Umbelievable. Absolutely The best
I miss the variety of dance elements in floor routines and that beautiful technique… tumbling has gotten so crazy
Rumanía 🇷🇴 el país de las mejores gimnastas del mundo, demostrando que desde años dominan en estos rubros, amo❤️
Pero ahora no ganan nada
Seems like they were dominating back when they had communism. Anyway they have Nadia Comaneci. The most legendary gymnast for me.
💁🏻♀️no se vive del pasado… fueron
@@liliana161922 they have no government funding now. Neither do the girls from Russia, or whatever they're called now.
I had all these 80s jams on my Casio Keyboard as a kid 🎹 🎶🤸♀️
I love my Romanian legends but Simone Biles is from another universe, she's outstanding.
SIMONE IS A MACHINE! What a powerhouse and she is such a sweetie and so humble-you can tellby how she interacts with press.