OP-Z Sampling an iPhone
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video, we show you how to sample an Apple iPhone on the Teenage Engineering OP-Z Portable Synthesizer. With the addition of sampling on the OP-Z, a convenient way to sample audio clips is from an iPhone, since there is a high chance you may already have one in your pocket. We walk you through how to sample from an iPhone and share other helpful information. We also talk about the Apple Camera Adapter that is used to sample from an iPhone.
Note: An iPhone 8 Plus was used in this video, but you should be able to use any iPhone or iPad with a Lightning connector.
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great work, sampling is one of it's best features I think. hoping for custom drum and instruments on the opz app soon, and more unity tutorials to sync
Yes, custom sound packs from the app would be great.
4:05 I got this adapter and I can confirm that it works.
Thanks!
Die-Jay-Cee I have the usb adapter. It works but it is making some « crackles » noises when camera usb recording on the iPhone. Did you change some settings or it works without making noise for you?
I was wondering how to do this!! Thanks Ollie!
Glad it helped!
The lightning usb adaptor works. Oneplus 3 works with usb c too.
Good info. Thanks!
USB to lightening adapter works. I opted that one just because it's slightly more portable and the OPZ is my on the go tool so most of the time I won't be connected to power.
Thanks for your comment! That's good info.
@@OllieLoops Glad to help! Your content is great.
@@djbowlz2128 Thanks so much!
@@djbowlz2128 I'm using the same method, no need to connect power. I have a 3rd party lightning to hdmi aswell but you do need power for that.
Yes, Works!
Damn he is getting these clicks like crazy. I am kinda joules 🤪👍🏽
Very high quality 👍🏽
Thanks!
Does it sample stereo sounds or mono? Thanks!
You are such a champ!!
Thanks!
thanks, but you could use the lighting to mini jack adapter to sample in to the trs audio in on the op-z right?
I’m not sure that you can. Apple is tricky with its accessories and there needs to be a digital “handshake” between the device and accessory in order to gain full functionality.
I wonder if the USB-C to Lightning cable would work for this..? Or even the USB-C to USB-C one on the iPad Pro
With an iPhone, you need the adaptor to unlock the phone’s audio I/o. The usbc to lightning cable alone does not work. With an iPad with a usbc, you don’t need the adaptor.
Ollie Loops Thanks for the quick response! Great videos btw :^)
Great video. I don't have an iPhone but you don't need the official camera adapter for the ipad pro, I have 2017 Model. Plus on the iPad you need select audio out via USB in settings.
Hey, thanks for your comment. When you say you don't need the camera connection kit on the Ipad, are you using a Lightning to USB-C cable, and it works with just that cable? Good info, thanks!
@@OllieLoops yes and no, lightening to USB then the TE USB cable into the OPZ. Its just a 3rd party one from Amazon for about £12 uk money. I'm using it to sample Korg Gadget 2.
On the newer iPad Pros with USB-C port it also works with usb-c to usb-c cables.
@@MarcoPompei90 Good to know
@@MarcoPompei90 Good info, thanks for that.
going crazy trying to find out if this will work with the op-1.
any clue if it will?
seems all op-1 users have iPad pros on hand already
good question. I don't know exactly. But I'll experiment and see what's possible. I would suggest reaching out to TE to see what they say.
@@OllieLoops On op1 i used the lightening to 3.5mm female then 3.5 male to male into the headphone / record socket.
Can’t you just use a lightning port to headphone jack adapter with a male to male audio cable? (Without the adapter you used, just plug directly from the iPhone to the OP-Z?
Unfortunately not. Certain accessories unlock features, like the one in the video.
@@OllieLoops got it-thanks! So surprising that it works on the op1 but not the OP-Z. Such a bummer! Love your videos though thank you
What would you recommend for sampling into the MPC live 2?
From a phone? Bluetooth, or 1/8” trs to 1/4” breakout cable.
@@OllieLoops thanks for the response, I still haven’t figure out how to sample with Bluetooth, but I’m going to try to set it up. Would be niiice. I was thinking about investing in a record player, but sampling thru TH-cam sounds like it would be way easier. If I don’t figure it out I’ll order that cord 🙌🙌🙌
Bluetooth should be the easiest and cheapest option. And if you can do that then you can sample just about anything. And investing in a turntable means investing in a lot of records. But sampling vinyl is fun. Just know the turntable is the cheap part. Have fun!
Why is the emphasis on the word brand? And which adapter do I need - lighting on USB or lighting on USB 3.0 ??? I do not have branded lighting for USB. Everything works, but there is some oddity - as soon as I connect the adapter to iPhon or iPad, OP-Z starts to work slowly, I can’t, for example, play the eighth notes or sixteenth notes with my hands on the keyboard. Those. the keys are pressed, there is no delay, but there is a long interval between presses. What could be the matter - a generic adapter or the fact that this adapter is not USB 3.0?
Magadan As far as I know, Apple does not allow third party adaptors to stream audio from their products, at least there are very few licensed products that work. Regarding the issues you’re having, I would recommend contacting TE support.
Does it work if not in sampling mode, like if you just want to output audio from a synth app on the iPhone, replacing one of the 5-8 channels? If yes, how to set it up. Thanks
Hey, thanks for your comment. I’m not sure I understand the question 100%. Could you rephrase your question?
Ollie Loops hey thanks for getting at me, I basically want to sequence an external soft synth ,that is on my iPhone, with the op-z and have the audio of it coming from the op-z.
@@musicalstatues73 Ok. thanks for clarifying. I believe you can do this if you have a third app to route audio from the soft synth to the OPZ. I believe an app like Audiobus will allow you to do this. But I would recommend checking out that app. Just know that the OPZ app doesn't route or handle audio itself and the OPZ essentially acts as an audio interface for the iPhone given the adaptor in the video. ok, I hope that helps.
Ollie Loops yep, thanks. Will check that app, keep up the good work :)
Thanks. Good luck.
Hello,
Tried for days now, really struggling to use my Samsung S8 to output audio to the OPZ in sample mode. Been to Samsung shop, I have my audio output settings on my phone to OPZ via Samsung Smart Things, have USB configuration in Developer Settings to output Audio via USB and sound doesnt leave phone via the speaker or the headphone port when settings are like this, so audio is leaving phone via the usb c port but OPZ does not seem to think that is the default audio input, it still only listens via built in mic or earphones mic when engaged.
Thoughts? Has anyone else successfully used sample mode direct from Samsung S8 into OPZ? My girlfriends Android phone, Huawei P30 works instantly, no settings changed, just the same usb c to usb c and straight away I can sample digital audio into the OPZ, I just need to do the same on my Samsung S8.
Do I need a USB OTG cable? Or a seperate app that reroutes the audio leaving my phone or tells the OPZ it is slave to listen not my phone listen to audio FROM OPZ via USB (I dont know if it is doing this however). I am on latest firmware on both OPZ and phone.
Help needed pls
Thanks
Myles
I have exactly the same problem with my samsung note 10
We need an update to this video please!
That’s a good idea. Thanks!
@@OllieLoops can you include recording opz audio to the phone and how to do it please
Why did a new feature launch?
@@sauce25 not that im aware of. I think i just wanted a better explanation of the ios usb adapter there arent many videos out there that focus on getting audio from any of these devices into an iphone and it was a pain in the ass to figure out basically on my own
Hi, great video. I have 2 questions hopefully someone can help.
Can anyone CONFIRM my Samsung S8 will simply connect and let me sample sounds out from it via the charging output (and if so how do I do this, do I need to change a setting so sound leaves via the usb output of the phone not the speaker/headphones? And how do I do this?)
And secondly, I do have both IPAD and Iphone but both are the older type with 30 pin connector, will a converter which makes the output of my iphone/iPad into the host work for sampling from that?
I want to use my Samsung phone ideally, but can find any other videos or info online other than your short bit at the end of this that event talks about it as a sampling from device. Can anyone point me to more information regarding sampling the sounds out from a Samsung phone INTO the OPZ
Thanks in advance!
Myles
Hey Myles,
I have not tried it, but users have confirmed that Android phones work simply by connecting a cable between the phone and OP-Z. If you get a usbc to usbc cable, you can connect the two. The phone should auto detect the connection and output audio.
Regarding iPhones and iPads with 30 pin connectors, there is a camera connection kit that you can get for that type of connector. And it should work in the same way as the newer iPhones.
I hope that helps.
@@OllieLoops Thanks so much, keep up the hard work, might ask for more tips in the future.
Cheers
@@OllieLoops Okay, 2 more questions if you dont mind?
Firstly as I dont actually own the OPZ, this is for sure something I will be ordering very soon, I dont have the device in front of me so cant see... so the mic input you've used in other videos using your Shure Lapel style condensor mic, am I wrong in saying you couldnt just use a TRS mini jack out of that output and put it absolutely anywhere to sample; it doesnt just HAVE to be a microphone, right? So I could sample like directly from my record player, or radio or absolutely anything with a headphones-out jack?? - Is the microphone input on the same output as the headphone output of the OPZ i.e if I could use that 1 dedicated audio input (which I thought comes from the same line as the headphones out of the OPZ) to say sample the record player would that mean I couldn't have headphones in at the same time to the OPZ and would that mean I couldn't monitor the sample, or do I need a separate device to do this/would the usbc output work for audio to monitor if I had headphones that had some kind of usbc adapter on that? Essentially can the "headphones mic - in" on the OPZ be used as not mic but just line in TRS lead and if so how do I monitor audio from the OPZ at the same time?
Secondly, I was thinking about ordering the PO KO! and then PO rhythm (drum machine one) also, but would you say with the OPZ now with Sampling there is nothing essentially I couldnt get from them that I couldnt do with the OPZ with sampling??
As I could essentially just download the PO Rhythm drum sounds and sample them into the OPZ, save them in the internal memory then I would pretty much have the PO Rhythm. Would you say also I can splice samples, sequence samples from any format whether microphone input whatever to create patterns to the effect of what the PO KO! (the speak/micro sampler one) can do?
Sorry for the long questions. Anyone else feel free to answer these in time!
Greetings from Manchester UK (but currently sun bathing in Turkey!)
Hey Myles,
Regarding the 1/8 jack on the OPZ, there are mixed opinions about it. We don't want to stir the pot, but here's where we stand. On a technical level, the input is a mic level input, which is excepting to see a signal between -60dbv and -40dbv. A typical line level input is between -10dbv and +4dbv. So running a line level signal into a mic level input is well above what the device is designed to handle. TE issued a warning that this can damage the device. With that, we don't encourage people run line level signal into the device because we don't want anyone to break their gear based on our recommendations. We haven't found a good solution for this and we encourage users to ask TE what they recommend. Lastly, if TE releases a module that gives users a line level input, that would be the best solution. Until then, you could record into another device and transfer samples into the OPZ via Disk Mode. It's not convenient, but it's a solution.
Regarding the POs, I don't think you would be gaining much by having both an OPZ and a PO33. One thing that the PO33 does that the OPZ does not, is process incoming samples in a low fi way. The OPZ has much better A to D converters than the PO33 so it sounds better. If you want that low fi sound, then the PO33 is a fun device to have. Otherwise, the OPZ is effectively a PO on steroids, so you are better off with the OPZ.
I hope that helps. Enjoy Turkey.
@@OllieLoops Thanks again man, very very wise words (y)
wait a minute.... so connecting the op-z to a nintendo switch doesn’t fry the op-z??
Not in our testing. Why would it fry it?
Ollie Loops not sure, from what i’ve read,the nintendo doesn’t follow normal usb c protocols. that’s why i’ve been scared to try this 😬
@@wilmerparis2202 I see. Well, I should have warned, "don't try this at home".
In summary, to use anything Apple you also need an expensive adaptor. Any sound source that isn’t Apple “Just works”. Gotta love that company...
No accessory needed for iPads with a USB-C connector.
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