Why The Ring Didn’t Use Color Grading
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 พ.ค. 2024
- How The Ring created its influential look largely without digital color grading, how I replicated it on a budget, and why it was worth it.
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Links:
Intro
Empire - "The Ring Review" (March, 2003)
www.empireonline.com/movies/r...
In Search of an Article
Cinematography Forums - "The Ring" (Feb. 19, 2005)
cinematography.com/index.php?...
Translight Backdrop
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Translight
Creating the Look
81EF Filter Specs
www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...
85B Filter Specs
www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...
Existing Wratten Numbered Filters
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wratten...
Roger Deakins Forums - "Printer Lights and Digital" (March 6, 2023)
www.rogerdeakins.com/forums/t...
Printer Points
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer...
List of Motion Picture Film Stocks - Eastman Kodak
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...
Kodak EXR 200T Spec Sheet
125px.com/docs/motionpicture/...
"The Making of Joker with Cinematographer Lawrence Sher, ASC"
• The Making of Joker wi...
IGC Magazine - "Wild Card" (Oct. 10, 2019)
www.icgmagazine.com/web/wild-...
American Cinematographer - Clubhouse Conversation: Lawrence Sher, ASC on Joker (Dec. 10, 2019)
theasc.com/news/clubhouse-con...
Push Processing
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push_pr...
Recreating the Process
A Guide to Color Filters with B&W Film
thedarkroom.com/color-filters...
Kodak Professional Accessories Catalogue (Jan., 2000)
www.yumpu.com/en/document/rea...
"rating kodak stocks in term of contrast" (May 30, 2005)
cinematography.com/index.php?...
"How to remove left over remjet after film has dried" (June 29, 2021)
cinematography.com/index.php?...
CineStill Film
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinestill
Bellows Film Lab Chicago - ECN-2 Development
www.bellowsfilmlabchi.com/pro...
Boutique Film Lab - ECN-2 Film
www.boutiquefilmlab.com/produ...
"How to Clean Your Negatives"
kodakdigitizing.com/blogs/new...
"Opinion: lab box ecn-2 process" (March 29, 2023)
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"What is preventing film photographers from shooting ECN-2?" (Jan. 27, 2023)
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"Testing ways to remove Remjet on Vision3 film" (April 24, 2022)
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:26 In Search of an Article
03:09 Creating the Look
10:17 Re-creating the Process
17:50 The Results
24:23 Why Bother? - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
I Always loved the way the ring looked. Really set that cold wet tone
It did and the makeup and contour was great too!!!! The shading of Rachel's nose and all Naomi watts NOT only looked but did great as Rachel!!!!!! Rachel is a likeable character!!!!! Brings back memories when movies were actually goodb
It really embodies that Seattle winter feel. You can almost smell the rain, it's so vividly evoked by the color and sound design.
@@AG-iu9lv perfectly put!! You can smell the humidity. Fantastic work.
I loved it, to me it emphasized perfectly the hopelessness of the story.
Sounds like you need to move to the pacific northwest lmao
I honestly still love THE RING from the 00's. It was such an amazing movie back then and still is quite good.
Such a scary/surreal film. I am not sure I remember watching another movie so vividly. I was probably 12/13 and watched it with a group of friends i am still very good friends with. I asked each of them and they all remember it like it was yesterday. No movie has effected me like The Ring. It ignited my love for horror films.
It's art, for sure.
I'm no a film buff, in fact I rarely watch movies. But I really absorb the ones I do like and The Ring definitely stood out to me for a lot of reasons, but number one was the visual presentation. That alone felt to me like it had something archetypal to the medium of film as a whole in it. I watched it recently (probably how I wound up here,) and if anything I am only more sure of why it became one of those movies that defined what movies are for me in the first place. In motion it is perfect, owing much to heavy use of naturalistic perspective (close to your own real-life FOV.) But the individual frames themselves are striking, with every color, line, and feature perfectly placed as though god drew them there. Its visually engrossing atmosphere does a lot to give more sense of plausibility of the story. You know early in that you are in for a level of visual tact and execution that you just don't see very often.
I'm not even anti-sfx/vfx at all. I learned Blender when I was a kid cause I thought it was wicked cool. But for all of the crazy fancy stuff that is now possible, the Ring shows how important purposed creative decision making is to the actual visual artistry conveyed. It's not about what technique, how smooth or polished it is. Regardless of whatever tech or methods you are using, to whatever degree of refinement, what makes the result visually beautiful is a culmination of many creative choices in leveraging those things to conjure conveyance. It's that illusive [sic] 'feel' thing.
Basically... when I look at it, does it feel like a living organic thing? You can look at single frames of this film and easily say "Yes." to that question. And that's down to a million different decisions in the presentation that you cannot build a process to reach. It's everything from the colors, shot composition, performances, decisions in processing, nuances like the tape's contents reflecting back in a character's eyes, and the way everything is brought together. That's a cliche, but really that movie is packed full of frames that are iconic down to the last detail, nothing superfluous yet nothing spared. It was often mimicked because they freakin nailed it and created high art. The expression and conveyance beams into your eye holes every single second of 115 minutes.
@@yorgivon-schmourgeussborgi it's a crappy remake, for sure.
@@user-wo5tc9ux7u good for you Kermie. You spelled words
I honestly thought I was the only person that cared this much about the look of The Ring. Thanks for doing all the work I was going to inevitably do at some point. I’ve got some straw gel in my closet. Going to start there.
It's an incredibly shot movie, I'm always surprised it doesn't get more credit.
You're not alone. I kept telling people the ring is such a beautiful movie. The cinema photography is gorgeous!
i make people watch the ring bc of how beautiful it is
@@RickySteelscinematography is the film’s strong suit the casting and story decisions … they are not the best…
Sadako was never intended to be a child and the child aspect of Sadako’s backstory had only been hinted at in Ring (1998) & Ring 0: Birthday (2000)
@@madafoine82I show all my friends and family Ring (1998), Spiral (1998), Ring 2 (1999) & Ring 0: Birthday (2000) first and maybe even Sadako 3D (2012) lol 😂
2:18 I genuinely really appreciate that once you found a way to access the article, you gave others the ability to access it.
the ring is honestly such a beautiful movie. I remember a lot of ppl around me disliked it for just americanizing the japanese original. But I always found it to be a beautiful retelling of the story.
People immediately dismiss remakes without watching them. Verbinki's remake is a better looking film by all standards, and it has tighter editing.
the thing is it really brought the film over to a different cultural landscape in an effective careful loving and respectful way imo. I don't enjoy the japanese film much.... I ADORE the books. Re-reading spiral rn.
With decent reason. For the most part remakes are a shitty chas grap. Some here and there will be fantastic, such as the body snatchers remake from the 70s@@WarlordRising
I will always like the original more for it's gritty production, that I think, really helps the movie.
@@mr.dirtydan3338 "3:10 to Yuma" was an awesome remake. "True Grit" was pretty good, too. If you like westerns.
Beyond all the important work you're doing, its just astonishing that American Cinematographer doesn't have a digital backlog
Having searched for old articles I have read growing up it’s wildly difficult to get digital copies of magazines over 10 years old.
This is not true. If you subscribe you can access digital pdfs back to their launch issues in the 1900's.
But its not true. I queued it right up on my ASC app and looked at a scan of the entire issue he’s referencing.
I had an ASC subscription last year. Every monthly issue was digitized going back to the very beginning. You just need an account.
@@connornyhan1593 Hey other account. I actually found the digital copy. It totally exists.
unfortunate i never understood how much passion and deep knowledge it takes to create a film, let alone a recreation of its filming style. i LOVE this video
The level of research you undertake in all of your videos is in a league of it's own compared to every other youtube channel. I wish you were able to put out videos more frequently, but the level of detail you go into on complex topics makes it worth the wait.
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The difference between something made by someone with genuine passion & curiosity for a subject, and what the ad-revenue algorithm pressures people to create, really does feel like a different genre (that I wish google didn't have their filthy mits all over)
Only a sith deals in absolutes
When I went to see 'The Ring Two' in theaters as a teenager, I was so excited to return to that eerie and haunting world I knew from the first film. Immediately, though, I felt something was off about it. I didn't know anything about photography or cinematography at the time, and I didn't have the vocabulary to express why it felt so ineffectual. It just didn't hit the same. Years later I came to learn that it was shot and directed by an entirely different crew and without the same process or attention to detail.
Thank you for putting so much work into this video. It makes me appreciate that first film even more.
the 2nd was made by the director of the japanese og and that one was more “magical” or paranormal but in a mental powers
kinda way and not in psychological horror, thats why it was different. Btw if you didnt know there’s a prequel to the ring 2 that didnt nake the cut but its uploaded on yt and even though its in very bad resolution and it had lower budget - it doesnt matter, i think it adds to what felt missing for me in the 2nd and its cool, i recommend you to see it if you haven’t, it ‘ll bring you back to that feeling right away but a has a unique old-school edit style
@@MLTAKOSThey could have transitioned into the more paranormal qualities of The Ring 2 while preserving the aesthetic qualities of the first film, though. The greenish filters from the first film are completely absent from the second, for instance.
I think the prequel film you're referring to is Rings, which was only ever meant to be a short film. It wasn't edited out of anything. It appeared as a special feature in a re-release of The Ring some months before the The Ring 2 was released theatrically. And you're right! It _does_ share a closer vibe with the first film and has a pretty compelling premise. Due to it's low budget, though, it definitely has that cheap kind of color grading that a lot of movies had in the early 2000s that this video talks about.
@@MLTAKOSThey need to stop copying other people shit
@@tylerjhunter
I had the same experience. The first one became one of my favorite movies ever. I went to see the second one in theaters, and even as a kid with low standards for film at the time, it was BAD, really bad. Essentially nothing about that movie is redeemable, but at least the first one is incredible and we can always revisit it.
@@UnityAgainstJewishEvil you must have seen ten movies in your life if the ring remake is one of your all time fave movies LMAO
I don't know why this was on my feed, but I'm glad it was. This feels like an extended Behind The Scenes featurette, and I was all about those as a teen. This was so cool!
Who needs film school when you have channels like this??
Last fall, I tried doing research on the way The Ring was colored, in order to mirror it for one of my projects. I couldn’t find much about it, and I swear this was one of the best and most informative videos I have ever seen. It’s the video I wish had existed last year! I’m so happy I stumbled upon your channel today. Instantly subscribed and this was honestly one of the most in depth coloring videos I have ever seen, and the fact that it was about the film I was researching made it even better. Thank you for making this!!!
This goes beyond a TH-cam video. It's a documentary. Great job!
Bojan Bazelli's body of work deserves better recognition
He truly deserves an Oscar
The color timing is very green on the movie, yet skin tones are well protected, i guess they use warmer tungsten lights just to light the faces
I'm not a film maker, nor could I ever dream of shooting on actual film, this was very interesting to watch, and it really makes me want to experiment with filters, even just in front of a digital camera, to see what it does! I'll be taking your advice with me while dipping my toes into this for sure. The way you present this video shows your experience not only with cameras but with storytelling, editing, well just the whole package. Absolutely love it!
17:56 Resident Evil music came in perfectly
thank you! i knew it souned so familiar!
So underrated as a film. When it came out I was 12. I had not seen any trailers and I knew nothing about it beforehand. My dad and I took a regular Saturday trip to the cinema and bought tickets after literally just seeing the name on the light board amongst the rest of the films out that week. It scared the absolute hell out of me and to this day no film had been able to live up to the shock and sense of dread I felt as a 12 year old in the cinema watching it. 📼
Man I haven’t came across a film channel that goes into depth the way you do in a long time.
This is by far one of (if not) the best film photography/cinematography breakdowns I've watched. Thank you for this. Subscribed.
The Ring is among my top 10 favorite horror films ever, and I very much appreciate how much research you've done for this video!
This was one of the first movies I watched where I noticed I loved the way it was shot and the color palette. I know very little about film, so thank you for going so deep into this. Now I know all the work and intent that went into crafting a film I've thought was beautiful for so long.
Fantastic video, and thank you for the article!
The movie looked great black and white but I like the results from colorizethis even more
I can not say how grateful I am to find your amazing channel. I wish there were more channels like you. Thank you for this great video
There are literally no other how to videos for color like this, I've been searching all morning. I hope you make a lot more like this!
Such sick content man, thank you for taking the time to make this. 10/10
Thank you for all of your effort to create such an important test and resource for the rest of us. A lovely bit of fresh perspective!
Huge work man! Thank you for that❤
Watched this out of curiosity and was blown away.
Amazing work!
Incredibly well done! Great reasearch as well! Looking forward to your next video :D
I loved the deep dive you did. It really makes you appreciate all the testing and "simple" solutions the industry uses to get the look. Thank you!
Fantastic work! Your channel is one of the best on the platform for film discussion. It isn't gear obsessed, yet it also isn't shallow in it's discussion of technique. I always come away feeling a renewed sense of wonder at the filmmaking process.
Thank you for all the work that went into this video
I hope you make more videos like this in the future! This and your video about the lens of fallen angels were both super interesting. Thank you!
Never thought this would've been as interesting as you made it! I loved learning a sliver of what goes into filmmaking, it's a very cool process
Wow, this video came in my suggestion feed. The depth & breadth of information on Cinematography. Very insightful.
Unreal video - thank you for putting in this work. Awesome work!!
I didn't think I'd end up watching the whole video so easily and invested. Great job!
The amount of research and the all the hassle of experiment to figure out a film look shows just how much passion for cinema you got here! thanks for sharing this with us, well done!
this is one of my favorite movies and looks. as a film photographer this whole video was a pure joy to watch! thank you for taking so much time to research and do the work. it paid off! this video came out amazing!
This is SUCH a well done video through and through. Thank you so much!
Lovely video. As a native Chicagoan, your shots of the city were some of the best I have seen. Genuinely loved your results (the shot with the brake lights in the lower left was incredible!)
This is such a fascinating deep dive. I really like how you documented the process of recreating the look; as someone who doesn’t know a lot about film gear (especially shooting on film), your detailed breakdown helped me understand in an engaging way. Great vid as always, excited for the next one!
First video of yours I’ve seen. Absolutely insane quality. I learned about a billion new things watching this. I’m gonna have to try out some filters myself now!
Dude. I haven't enjoyed a video on youtube as much as this one in a loooong time. Thank you so much and bravo.
What an insane level of detail and display of mastery. Great work!
awesome video this feels like some research i be doing as a painter/photographer myself. your attention to detail and explanation of your process and rationale is much appreciated easy to follow along even with my limited knowledge of the intricacies of movie film development and such. real art appreciation here
What a journey you went through to recreate the look. Amazing, thank you.
Really great breakdown! Love how detailed this is. Super cool to see the results 👏
This video reminds me of the Every Frame a Painting channel. I love your attention to detail and enjoyed seeing your recreations. Keep it up!
This is such an incredibly fascinating and cool look into The Ring’s look. The look and tone of that film were so haunting and seared into my brain. Thank you for this!
I know nothing really about shooting film and your vid randomly popped up for me. This single handily gave me a new appreciation for the ring.
I love this so much. Thank you for doing this!
Incredible the amount of work that went into achieving The Ring look... Thanks for going above and beyond to bring us this amazing info about this iconic film! New sub!
This video is so beautiful and fascinating and great. Thank you so much for making it!!!
All of your hard work making this is so very much appreciated 👍🏻
This video was awe inspiring. Especially when it got to the part where you recreated the look of the movie with what means you could. Congratulations on another great video!
This is such an amazing video. I was expecting a bit of trivia and interest from your title. But the extension deep dive into recreating the look was just completely and utterly fascinating. Enjoyed this so much
I never comment, but this was such a well made video and you went into so much depth and detail that went far beyond what was required. I could easily see this becoming one of my new favorite channels, keep up the great work!
Damn, you always picked the most niche and interesting topics to talk about. Please keep doing it!
Wow!! The research you have done for this one makes this video so great!!
This is mind blwing stuff! Hope your channel blows up real soon..all the best
The level of details in the video is incredible. Excellent work here mate!
wow, I admire the dedication, the knowledge, the research and the final product overall!
great job
I'm so glad that you made this video because a couple of months ago when I wanted to deep dive into the color grading off this specific movie there was none, and suddenly today I came across yours. Miraculously done sir 🥂
this was awesome, something about the look of The Ring has stuck with me all these years. thanks for explaining why!
it's awesome! You inspire me to think about color grading in that way in my next short film! Thanks!
One of the coolest videos ive seen on here in awhile keep up the good work!
This is a great video! I might not have understood a lot of the technical jargon, but it was amusing to watch your thought process in real-time. I had no idea the myriad of choices the photography team makes in shooting a film. When people who generally call themselves cinephiles, myself include mehehehe, talk about cinematography, we most often refer to the mise en scène, with a few mentions of the color grading, cool/warm tones, etc. Thank you to the algorithm for suggesting your video to me. I look to binging and learning from your other videos. Best of luck on the growth of your channel because the current number of subscribers is a freakin' injustice to the level of detail your video possesses.
Guess I should thank the almighty algorithm for bringing me here! This is one of the most well researched video essays I've ever seen. And to actually apply what you learned? Then provide ALL your sources and provide a DIY alternative to create the look for everyone watching? Instant subscription man. You have a very soothing voice so I definitely hope to see more videos like this from you :)
the amount of effort you put in this video is way beyond respectable. thank you for making this, a great video well done! Subscribed and may the algorithm be with you!
i must admit, i definitely have a bit of a kneejerk "what's the point?" reaction to hearing about effects done in-camera, so i really appreciate you going through the process yourself and talking about how limitations can lead to creativity here.
also, this might sound silly but, as someone with no formal training in photography, it never occurred to me that you could just throw a lighting gel over a camera lens. i will have to go dig up my roscolux swatches.
Funnily enough, even as someone with some formal training in photography, until this project I didn’t realize you could use gels like that either
@@WatchingtheAerial lol, i guess that makes me feel a little less silly then! it had a wonderful effect, excited to play around with it
In camera looks better, feels better, and is more authentic.
In-camera work is especially important in film photography, although it is still very important with digital too, just to a lesser degree.
You aren't dealing with pixels. You are effecting how the light reacts with each silver halide layer & dye layer. There's a reason why even the highest tech digital cameras are still being used (and usually struggling) to emulate specific filmstocks. It's also a big reason why many of the biggest modern directors are still shooting big budget films with 35mm & sometimes 70mm film.
What an amazing journey. Thank you for this video.
I just wanna say I’m so amazed by how well made and informative this video is and how helpful it is to me as an aspiring filmmaker THANK YOU !!!!!!! I find these technical aspects of the creative process the most daunting and inaccessible but this makes it both enjoyable and helps me start gaining an understanding.
The amount of quality and work you have put in here is insane. Hands down!
DUDE THIS IS SO GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH FIR MAKING THIS! IT WILL BE USEFUL IN THE FUTURE!
as a film photographer, i love the amount of effort youve put into dissecting this down to emulsion and super niche filters.
As someone with a degree in technical theater, I am drooling over this
Amazing work! I look forward to watching more videos!
I’ve been obsessed with the look of The Ring for years, it was one of my favorite films growing up. Thank you for this video.
This is one of the most interesting videos I have seen in a while. Congrats, I truly enjoyed this.
Fantastic. I haven't watched the Ring in years but the unique look of the film has stuck with me since I first watched it as a kid.
This is amazing work. I geeked out hard. Thank you!
Wow! You nailed the final look, thats so cool. I love the coloring of The Ring, it really helped add to the dreary, spooky atmosphere, like everything is just so cold and uncomfortable. This was such an interesting video, thank you!
An absolutely stunning breakdown of one of my favorite films in terms of color. Subscribed!
First of all, mad respect. This was humbling for me as I happen to be someone who has recently started shooting on film. More power to you. On second thoughts, the Roscoe footage reminds me of the filmography of Dennis Villenvue.
This is elite TH-cam content! Congrats man, please keep going!
One of the most educational and informative videos I've ever seen, and on the subject of my favorite horror movie! So glad this popped up in my feed. Outstanding work on this excellent video!
This is such a well put together video. Thank you for all of the research and proving us with the American Cinematographer article. The Ring is one of my favorite movies and is such a visually stunning film.
This is an amazing video on various levels- your contribution to this industry deserves all the internet updoots
Congrats on the video. I don't have any intention of shooting on film, but this was enthralling. Thank you!
Thank you for making this video and doing the research. I always wondered how they did this on the ring. Amazing!
Amazing video, well done, so much interesting information and great narrative! subscribed
This is such a cool video. Great work!
Really great video. You did a great job with this, super in depth
A well-executed documentary highlighting one of my favourite films, from an angle I never thought to consider.
Really appreciate the deep dive. Respect for getting a hold of a hard copy of ASC mag. Really want to experiment with color filters now.
It's truly inspiring seeing people with so much passion for what they love. Great video. Cheers from Costa Rica 🍺
this was such an interesting video about one of my favorite movies of all time! extremely cool!
this is epic, so much work and thought went into it. Respect
This video is incredible. So much work. Thanks for sharing!