Why Batman's Grappling Hook Should Kill More People (Because Science w/ Kyle Hill)

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    Batman's one rule is that he never kills, but his grappling hook may pose a few problems. Kyle grapples the truth on this week's Because Science!
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  • @nilok7
    @nilok7 8 ปีที่แล้ว +406

    Actually, Batman already has solved the problem with deceleration. I'm going by memory, but when Batgirl was first starting out, she was using a normal grappling hook. When Batman finally caught up to her, he took away her normal grappling hook and gave her one of his grappling hooks, explaining that a normal rope isn't elastic enough to dampen the fall and would tear her arm out.

    • @kyleballo5089
      @kyleballo5089 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I was about to ask if there was anyway the grappling gun could have a "slowfall" effect where it lessens the freefall and breaks the overall fall, like falling off a 50ft tree but hitting a few branches on the way down would lessen the overall impact to the ground.

    • @Ageiko
      @Ageiko 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Happens in Batgirl Year One Volume 4

    • @charithgunawardena5472
      @charithgunawardena5472 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      elastic....

  • @TFWKnightconvoy
    @TFWKnightconvoy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    I thought his second most famous gadget would be the Batarang?

    • @GreenGiantSlayer
      @GreenGiantSlayer 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Erik Hawkke yeah, i thought the same thing

    • @herokid789
      @herokid789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dont think the baterang counts as a gadget as it either is just a peice of metal or too diverse to count as one gadget

    • @Stingerman100
      @Stingerman100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@herokid789 I see it as just a weapon at that point.

    • @dickgirl5442
      @dickgirl5442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thats the first

    • @8-ball350
      @8-ball350 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same man

  • @arachnus100
    @arachnus100 8 ปีที่แล้ว +279

    Wait did you just say that the most popular Batman gadget is his cape? Really? The answer is obvious! I mean come on, anyone knows this. It's the Bat-Shark-Repellent! Duh!

    • @resss9403
      @resss9403 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      MuddyGrenade I agree.

    • @thatrandomguy9841
      @thatrandomguy9841 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      No it’s either bat credit card or bat nipples

    • @ansarahsan5971
      @ansarahsan5971 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      no it's the batarang

    • @177SCmaro
      @177SCmaro 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That Random Guy
      A bat CREDIT CARRRRD?!?! NOOOOoooo! NOOOOoooo! DOES NOT COMPUTE!!! DOES NOT COMPUTE!!!

    • @spinal_capped
      @spinal_capped 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      177SCmaro -- Try swiping it again.

  • @DeadUnicornClub
    @DeadUnicornClub 8 ปีที่แล้ว +335

    +Nerdist Nightcrawler doesn't just teleport but also moves through an alternate dimension that is similar to hell. When he teleports he leaves an amount of 'hell's' atmosphere in his place, so no sonic boom would take place. This is where the bit of smoke comes froms when he teleports in or out. In the comics it's said that Nightcrawler's teleport power smells like brimstone.

    • @Nerdist
      @Nerdist  8 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      +TrulyEvilBob That's f***ing metal -- KH

    • @matthewlivingston3168
      @matthewlivingston3168 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      whoa

    • @BlueNip
      @BlueNip 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      +Nerdist Well since we established how Nightcrawler teleports. The movie Jumper has people teleporting throughout the whole movie. Since you stated that when you teleport you create a loud sound when you leave, what would happen when you appear at the end of your teleport?

    •  8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      +Conner Irvin That's the question. What happens with the matter at the destination? One fear of teleporting is materializing in a solid object. Usually it causes the unfortunate victim to merge with the matter of the object and die. But wouldn't that also mean that they merge with the air in a "free" spot? I like to think that fictional teleporting would make them swap places with the matter in the destination. Which would mean no loud noises and teleporting into solid objects wouldn't be immediately deadly.

    • @trendane
      @trendane 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      +Martin Drkoš Using the movie "Jumper" specifically, his initial teleport (if I remember correctly) was to a place he'd felt safe; a spefic row of the library, if I recall correctly. When he fell through the ice and teleported for the first time, he took a lot of water with him.
      Probably ruined a lot of books doing that.

  • @moderntechnology1055
    @moderntechnology1055 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Actually, the grappling gun slow falls this is discussed in the red hood comics (I think) but essentially there is a wheel system in the gun as well as elastic rope that allows the user to have a slow repelling bungee cord affect

  • @fsujs
    @fsujs 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    You're right in your slow down assumption actually. I recall a comic revolving around the origins of batgirl. In the comic, batman actually cuts the rope batgirl is trying to swing on for the very first time because of the fact that it is simply a rope and would have snapped her arm off when the slack ran out suddenly. He explains the reason he is able to do it is because his ropes have a sort of bungee quality to them allowing them to stretch enough to dissipate the force. Movies may cut corners, but batman thinks of everything.

  • @Why_It
    @Why_It 8 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    I feel like a bungee cord would work far better than a steel cord.

    • @heyheyjj
      @heyheyjj 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Something similar might work if it was a bit. More durabale

    • @zechariahaceituna6930
      @zechariahaceituna6930 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      airplane wire!

    • @schmalzilla1985
      @schmalzilla1985 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nylon with break away stitching to absorb some of the energy of the fall, and some kind of net to grab the whole person. I've worked with fall protection, I don't know what the Newton's translates to in pounds, but OSHA requires a worker to free fall for no longer than 6ft, and a total fall distance of 13ft. A 150-200lbs (low side) has the weight equivalent of 5000lbs in that 6ft of free fall. They also outlawed "bungee" like material because the bounce could be just as dangerous, unless you have a lot of room to let that "bungee" like cord to extent slowly to reduce the that snap back up, and to avoid bouncing into obstacles. The net because even wrapping around the waist is deadly, that's why they forbidden the belts, and use a harness around the chest connected at the back. Also just stopping the fall isn't the end. You'd have to look up the regulation, but I think it's 30 minutes at the most, that companies are required to get that person down, the chest was never meant to support that person's weight in such a fashion. So I think a net to wrap around the person with a nylon with the breakaway stitching, or similar, would be the best option.

    • @ferdonandebull
      @ferdonandebull 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A climbing rope of top quality is designed to stretch when taking a sudden load.
      I have fallen a short distance and there was an amazing amount of “bounce” at the end from the stretching .
      After a fall I would guess it would be better to invest in another rope though..

    • @zenthenerdgamer4649
      @zenthenerdgamer4649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Batman: *descends to the ground to scare criminals*
      Also Batman: *flies right back up from the bungee*
      😂😂😂😂😂ngl tho I think it would work too I just had to say that joke

  • @PuddingASMR
    @PuddingASMR 8 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    Didn't Nightcrawler's teleport ability always make an audible boom? or was I imagining that in the cartoon/movies ?

    • @spiderjeranimo4992
      @spiderjeranimo4992 8 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      +FatFr33Pudding It's more of a bamf.

    • @Vayxes
      @Vayxes 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +FatFr33Pudding Hey Pudding

    • @PuddingASMR
      @PuddingASMR 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      ATearWillShed yo!

    • @STFUppercut69
      @STFUppercut69 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      +FatFr33Pudding BAMF!

    • @coleevans2514
      @coleevans2514 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      the telltale bampf is from the air rushing to fill the empty space he leaves behind and being pushed aside when he apears.

  • @Nerdist
    @Nerdist  8 ปีที่แล้ว +223

    #AfterCreditsBane

    • @evrnire8474
      @evrnire8474 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can we get a 'coz science' about hyperspace from star wars?
      Plz?

    • @josemena9277
      @josemena9277 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Nerdist I KNEW THE SPIDERMAN PUN WAS HAPPENING IN THE EPISODE BEFORE I CLICKED IT. XD

    • @TheFrenziedKiller
      @TheFrenziedKiller 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Nerdist You don't sound like a teacher cuz teachers are boring and you are most definitely not boring. Your funny and inspiring and I love your videos. Science was one of my worst subjects when I was in school and I hated it but you make science interesting and fun. Keep up the amazing work because a lot of people love the work you do myself included.

    • @mrtloy795
      @mrtloy795 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      U r talented because how du u write and we can see it good I didn't put much thought and I probably got something wrong

    • @liamtaylor3576
      @liamtaylor3576 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can you do a video on his detective vision?

  • @Kawaiimuscles
    @Kawaiimuscles 8 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Is it possible to make a episode about how strong Robin is, because for a 12 year old boy to punch holes in brick walls and incapacitating a full grown man 200 lbs plus with just his hands. I think it would make an amazing episode

    • @benokazaki5462
      @benokazaki5462 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think that's just a case of suspended disbelief that we have in comics. One could say it's training or that his gloves have brass knuckles in them or something, but to me it's always been just suspended disbelief

    • @KiyanPocket
      @KiyanPocket 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dunno.... Genetics maybe? hahaha

    • @Kawaiimuscles
      @Kawaiimuscles 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Khiean Paquete Damian Wayne is a perfect example of genetics and training, he's the youngest of the Robin's but he definitely the deadliest

    • @AifDaimon
      @AifDaimon 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ConsoleCadetz considering he was raised and trained by the League of Shadows, it's no surprise he's become too bloodthirsty for a boy his age.

    • @thewhitewolf58
      @thewhitewolf58 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      with the equation and things I'm assuming you record Infront of a clear whiteboard that you draw on

  • @achilleasgeorgiou7853
    @achilleasgeorgiou7853 8 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    yes but usually his grapling hook seems kind of elastick and it doesnt stop people instantly.Does it make enough difference though?

    • @gipsymelody1268
      @gipsymelody1268 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yep it is! already slowing the time while the whole force become way smaller!

  • @illusion-xiii
    @illusion-xiii 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Hmmm, I disagree slightly on the part about snagging the Joker. When you watch that clip, Joker clearly slows down over a visibly longer period than the other two. Yeah, the sudden stop with Vicky Vale is absurd (and fake looking), and with Nicole Kidman, same deal, but with the Joker, you can see what I'd say is about a half-second of slowdown before his velocity reaches zero.
    Based on the mathematics, that reduces the Force from 44 kN to around 8.8 kN, which comes in just below the xkcd calculation that a limb can withstand 10 kN. So that means that Joker's leg would be a-hurtin' bad, and he'd probably need some physical therapy, but it wouldn't be a *LEG RIP*.

  • @VAULT-TEC_INC.
    @VAULT-TEC_INC. 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In Batgirl: Year One, the first time Barbara Gordon jumps off of a roof using a normal rope, Batman is watching her and he cuts the rope with a with a Batarang. He then catches the falling and screaming Batgirl and tells her that she was at "terminal velocity" and that she would've ripped her arms off because she wasn't using a rope with the proper tension. Because.... Comic Junk Science!

  • @chopstyx141
    @chopstyx141 8 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Too soon for a Gwen Stacey death joke, too soon +Nerdist

    • @tyler.jacobs
      @tyler.jacobs 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Josh Nesbitt i felt it in my heart

    • @joelreyna5831
      @joelreyna5831 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Before he mentioned the whole Gwen/Spiderman thing I was thinking about that part. She died from the force of the fall on her body which is what this episode is about. It kinda sucks that they had to play bu the rules of reality (more or less) in that movie.

    • @Jay77957
      @Jay77957 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gwen died from hitting her head on the floor

  • @lemonzest1017
    @lemonzest1017 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really love the idea of Bane teaching physics/math...

  • @MichaelTotin
    @MichaelTotin 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I always assumed his grappling gun would have a deceleration mode that would kick in if certain higher forces were put open the line, or at least as a switchable firing mode, like climb vs fall.

    • @EzekiesAcheron
      @EzekiesAcheron 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Michael Totin stopping someone from falling with a grapple gun would take them from whatever speed they were falling to 0... which requires quite a bit of force. Possibly enough to tear off a limb...

    • @Godlessfuture
      @Godlessfuture 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Kaelan Ward The amount of force required depends on the time that it's intended to be applied. It's only quite a bit of force if they want to stop the fall in a very short time (ie, how it's normally depicted on screen). But if you decide to stop them over let's say, 4 seconds instead of the 0.1 s mentioned in the video, it would be considerably less. For example, the video says at one point it would take 38000 N to stop one of those falls (about 8500 pounds), but if stopping that same person occurred over 4 seconds instead of 0.1, it would only take 950 N (about 200 pounds) to stop them. It would still hurt, but unlikely to kill without special circumstances.

    • @EzekiesAcheron
      @EzekiesAcheron 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Godlessfuture Yes but in the batman movies they stop immediately. I doubt it would be able to catch them effectively but still be moving at the same time to slow their fall.

  • @kuba8713
    @kuba8713 8 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    FEAR THE GRAPPLE HOOK! Sorry... This isn't game theory ... FEAR THE GRAPPLE GUN

    • @MadScientist3000
      @MadScientist3000 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Kryzis but hey....that's JUST A THEORY

    • @kuba8713
      @kuba8713 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +MadScientist3000 A BAT THEORY

    • @MadScientist3000
      @MadScientist3000 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kryzis aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand CUT!

    • @nuwbers
      @nuwbers 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Kryzis lel

    • @tiagox3275
      @tiagox3275 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      perfect joke here. clap clap clap

  • @S3PT1M1
    @S3PT1M1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    lol "because sctence" 5:00

  • @DeadUnicornClub
    @DeadUnicornClub 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lots of research for a weekly video. It is appreciated!

  • @LaMugre
    @LaMugre 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    0:50 mat pat did it on gametheory with link's hookshot

  • @beeperu-san
    @beeperu-san 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    this reminds me of Link's grappling hook theory in game theory. love them both. go science!

    • @PokecrafterChampion
      @PokecrafterChampion 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      exactly and matpat explains how much force it puts on his arm so go watch that one of anyone wants to know

    • @jerryborjon
      @jerryborjon 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pokecrafter Champion ... maybe you should consider MatPat as more of an entertainer rather than a theorist...

  • @RavnoUK
    @RavnoUK 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:56 that voice.. and the laugh!.. ahahha great :D

  • @phoxal
    @phoxal 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had my volume up and my sister yelled at me on the "Leg Rip!" part. Made leg rip even funnier.

  • @TyDaleSumBum
    @TyDaleSumBum 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats the difference between static and dynamic climbing rope and why do you only use a certain type for different applications?

  • @sethdowns3088
    @sethdowns3088 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I wish u were my physics teacher so bad

  • @Madriddler
    @Madriddler 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If only you were my science teacher in hs lol. Also, sounding a bit like Christopher Walken at the end there

  • @fcolon4
    @fcolon4 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kyle, I just want you to know that I absolutely LOVE these videos brother. Keep up the great work!

    • @Nerdist
      @Nerdist  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Frank Colon Thank you so much Frank! That's really nice to hear. -- KH

  • @pspaghetti6916
    @pspaghetti6916 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You've been my VSauce 3 substitute for the past few months. Thanks!

  • @cemkeskek7759
    @cemkeskek7759 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    At the end he should say "Because I'm BATMAN".

  • @Player1Mat
    @Player1Mat 8 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    "Batman has one rule: No killing" Dont remind me.....god damn it Zack Snyder

    • @sacredbeastzenon
      @sacredbeastzenon 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +OfficialPlayer1 The Dark Knight Returns flies in through your window smacking you straight in the head.

    • @thewhitewolf58
      @thewhitewolf58 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Matthew Davis Batman has one rule: do whatever the screenwriter thinks will be the most interesting no matter what

    • @Rampagelil
      @Rampagelil 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Batman doesn't kill in the Dark knight returns, jackass. I am so sick and fucking tired of people saying that!

    • @rng_lord1276
      @rng_lord1276 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Originally Batman killed all the time actually

    • @kemarle7
      @kemarle7 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Rampagelil If you think Batman didn't kill in the DKR then you clearly weren't paying attention

  • @janondorf48
    @janondorf48 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you considered the oscillations within the grappling gun's system? I assume when batman's line goes rigid, the grappling gun is equipped with a spring and damper system to lessen the impulse applied by lengthening the time over which the force is applied

  • @SumeragiChain
    @SumeragiChain 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    That "aaaahhhh" 1:48.. lol reminds me of King Arthur's Gold.. :'D

  • @Werewolf_Korra
    @Werewolf_Korra 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Batman isn't affected by gravity...
    BECAUSE BATMAN!

  • @previzslagaming
    @previzslagaming 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This is why in the animated shows Batman swings by people he's catching in an arc.

  •  8 ปีที่แล้ว

    the way Kyle laugh in the end just made my day. lol

  • @kermitthorson9719
    @kermitthorson9719 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    on the nightcrawler question, he swops places with the atmosphere of the deminsion he uses to teleport, how hes always leaving a lil puff of smoke, ie the xmen evolution episode where they slowed him down and he had to where a repirater so he wouldnt sufficate.
    also sorry for typos

  • @torvamessorem6686
    @torvamessorem6686 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What about Batman's arm when he "saves" a person? Will his fingers snap off first or the arm?

    • @alexanderwolf1984
      @alexanderwolf1984 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends if the device is fastented in some other way to himself. Through the use of some kind of magnetic force which would make sense as the force could be transferred to the rest of the arm as he wouldn't want the GH ripped from his hands when he came to a stop. With that being said it could be magnetically attached to some sort of exoskeleton that could in theory absorb some of the g's experienced by the body when it came to a dead stop. But this wouldn't necessarily stop your internal organs from shifting in your body such as your brain crashing into your skull.

  • @theguyyoudontwanttoknowish2039
    @theguyyoudontwanttoknowish2039 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That moment when you realise Kyle has to write everything backwards

    • @cabellones
      @cabellones 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +the guy you dont want to know is here they probably mirror the video so we mortals can read....

  • @RideAMAP
    @RideAMAP 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    The comics describe the cable as "decel-Lines" or Decelerate meaning the lines stretch and slow the fall slowly.

  • @HonestFaraday
    @HonestFaraday 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's funny is when you mentioned the science behind the force it takes to rip an arm off being complicated, I immediately switched to the What If? dealing with this and reread it, then came back and found out that's what you went with, too.

  • @Nick11235
    @Nick11235 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You spelled Because science wrong at 5:02

  • @patrickkilduff5272
    @patrickkilduff5272 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    OK...now you're saying BatMAN...wtf...what happened to batmin??

  • @meaquidemsententia
    @meaquidemsententia 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kyle, your impersonations were great! They had me laughing!

  • @PropheticShadeZ
    @PropheticShadeZ 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i always thought of the grappling hook as more elastic, as well as spidermans web, seen in the delay between the grapple landing and the acsension, btw really good video

  • @nextstorming3908
    @nextstorming3908 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dead
    Dead
    Leg rip

  • @Ju-cw9fr
    @Ju-cw9fr 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    0:20 wrong..... batarang

  • @gctdonyre
    @gctdonyre 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's interesting how in these gadgets that are the conveyed the most non-lethal are actually the most deadly gadgets in practical science. A similar theory a while back was done on Link's Hookshot from the Zelda series.

  • @alistaircraig7849
    @alistaircraig7849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kyle: "Don't google that"
    Me: *immediately google that*

  • @maartendj2724
    @maartendj2724 8 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    That's why Spiderman is better at saving people, web is elastic so it doesn't stop you immediately AND you don't have the risk of being pierced by that dangerous looking hook. Gwen Stacy's death was just because the plot demanded it xD

    • @timhorsburgh4746
      @timhorsburgh4746 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Plot demanded it and her head smashed on the ground..

    • @sacredbeastzenon
      @sacredbeastzenon 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      +Maarten DJ No she died in the comic because he webbed then pulled her back. The jerk snapped her neck. She would've survived if he webbed her and let the web's elasticity slow her down. This was done in the 1st Spider-man movie. Toby Maguire grabs Mary Jane as she was falling and then shoots a web and it's elasticity slows them down. I remember watching a Spider-man special on A&E. This was quite a few years ago. I remember they talked about his powers and his Webbing. His webbing is both strong as elastic.

  • @Crazmuss
    @Crazmuss 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    FFS just make Because Science channel so other stuff from here will not pop up in my sub feed.

    • @Nerdist
      @Nerdist  8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      +Crazmuss We're working on it maybe shhh don't tell anyone -- KH

  • @amritpalsingh517
    @amritpalsingh517 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why would you have the 0.1 second assumption? The material that the wire/rope thing is made of may have some flexibility and that would slow down the deceleration, kind of like in bungee jumping...?

  • @aashilr
    @aashilr 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you guys get those sweet Division watches in your Division video?

  • @isin4b
    @isin4b 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Kyle Needs to watch more Mat Patts Game Theories

    • @Nerdist
      @Nerdist  8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +isin4b I do watch MatPat! I think everything he does is awesome. It's just that he has a gigantic, many-year-old channel empire afforded 15-min video times watched by millions, and I'm just me. Sometimes we do the same topics, but never on purpose. -- KH

    • @isin4b
      @isin4b 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Nerdist I was just being cheeky

  • @johnnyschuler1997
    @johnnyschuler1997 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    what happened to batm'n
    and superm'n

    • @NVTEHIRSCH
      @NVTEHIRSCH 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol ikr

    • @CrouchinCorner
      @CrouchinCorner 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Johnny Schuler If yoy actually didnt it was because the episode of ways superman can kill batman that he intentionally pronouncing man as min, such as batmin and supermin, spidermin, ramin.

    • @DangerDickDino
      @DangerDickDino 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just because Superman is strong does not always mean he will win. All batman has to do is strap some kryptonite to supermans chest and strap some to his own fist and Superman will feel the same thing any thug in Gotham has

  • @Lycandros
    @Lycandros 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nightcrawler also emits a smoke like substance when he bamfs, could be sound absorbing or equal to the mass he removes?

  • @dadafemi1005
    @dadafemi1005 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nightcrawler goes through dimensions not really teleport, he was once stuck between these dimensions when Xavier slowed down his transition

  • @spideralexandre2099
    @spideralexandre2099 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can't believe you're implying that the batarang is the third (or under) most famous batman gadget.

    • @Nerdist
      @Nerdist  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +spideralexandre2099 ARE YOU CHALLENGING ME TO AN OLD-FASHIONED BAT-OFF? -- KH

    • @spideralexandre2099
      @spideralexandre2099 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** I'm gonna bat you SO HARD!

    • @alanconn7662
      @alanconn7662 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +spideralexandre2099 whoa hoss! That sounds messy!

  • @Skaypegote
    @Skaypegote 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nerd comment, Batman did not always have a no kill rule

    • @Heavysandvich24
      @Heavysandvich24 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Patrick Proctor his rule is never kill with a weapon

    • @amitabhakusari2304
      @amitabhakusari2304 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      He still broke it in an issue of Batman(1941) by using a firearm,I don't remember which issue,but it was one of the earliest ones.

    • @JakkFrost1
      @JakkFrost1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was a killing machine in the early days.

  • @cassiemoyles4177
    @cassiemoyles4177 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just discovered your show, you're a fantastic host

  • @guilhermebonn2384
    @guilhermebonn2384 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the cartoon Nightcrawler's Teleport makes a little sound, but most of all leaves a cloud of gas behind, from the other dimension he goes through to Teleport. I would guess that this cloud take some of his space, therefore minimizing the sonic boom

  • @stewart7521
    @stewart7521 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    your wrong about nightcrawler but I'm to high to type out why. so you win, but just know that you're wrong

    • @Nerdist
      @Nerdist  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +stewart7521 Favorite comment so far. -- KH

    • @achillesjuschillin8419
      @achillesjuschillin8419 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      broo lmaooo i was gonna say the same thing fam .. XD

  • @thenamesmo
    @thenamesmo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:59, because sctence ??

    • @justinnavarrete8024
      @justinnavarrete8024 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      he forgot the other _ in T

    • @howzitboy
      @howzitboy 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      gotta remember he's writing every;thing backwards

  • @kylemitchell8404
    @kylemitchell8404 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the comic world, de-cel jumplines are used (which slow your decent while falling) and is why he stops batgirl in "batgirl year one" from jumping off with her climbing rope because the force would tear her limbs off and she would definitely die

  • @AlisterCountel
    @AlisterCountel 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had always assumed it wasn't a rigid cord like braided steel, but rather some sort of fiber or semi-elastic material that accounted for the slowing of the target as well as dispersing some of the force into stretching the material.

  • @rashkavar
    @rashkavar 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'll agree that DC deserves a fair bit of flak for some of their stuff, but this one might be pushing it a bit. Of your 3 examples, I've only seen the one from the Dark Knight, so I'll stick to that one. We see Joker bobbing a fair bit after he gets caught. This would suggest that Batman's grapple gun uses a relatively elastic material rather than, say, steel cable. (Also a good idea for other reasons - steel cable is heavy and when it breaks it does a lot of fairly random damage to things in the vicinity including potential civilians that might be passing by.) It's clearly not a bungee cord, so the stop wouldn't exactly be comfortable (honestly, I'd expect some fairly significant hip damage, potentially up to the level of dislocation, but not ripping off of the leg). I haven't done a frame count (and don't really have the means to, as my access to the movie is on Netflix), but I'd suggest that a time of about 0.5s would be a more reasonable stopping time. Which would be 4.4kN. A quarter second would be my minimum value, which is still under that 10kN total at 8.8kN.
    Also, that particular example is regarding a leg, which is a MUCH sturdier limb than the arm is (it is, after all, supporting your whole body while the arm just supports what you're carrying). In addition to the muscle mass, the direction of force and the shape of the hip joint would mean that the ball of the joint would be pulled into the lower side of the socket whereas an outstretched arm is being pulled pretty much directly out of the socket (granted, this latter distinction might mean more to your prosthetist, because the tension in the leg is applied to the knee as well, which features no sockets of any kind, so if the bones are making the difference, the rip will happen at the knee instead of the hip). Even if we disregard the bone situation entirely, the leg is a thicker rope of muscle tissue than the arm is (unless you're a body builder, in which case why are you letting people throw you off buildings in the first place?), and thicker ropes are harder to break than thinner ones. Ergo, the 10kN arm number is probably lower than the similar number required for leg ripping.

    • @danmaximus3743
      @danmaximus3743 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +rashkavar Even if the material was more elastic and was able to absorb more the tension of the sudden stop, at the best case scenario Joker's leg is twisted quite badly, while the leg is study, it is more prone to injury then the arm, an unsupported leg grabbed in midair by the grappling can risk life damaging injury to the ligaments, to put it shortly your not going to be running again. I can't say if elastic material would make much of a difference given the hook itself is still a solid mass that has to be strong enough to hold the person firmly against the momentum of the fall. So the jolt of the stop is going to be there in some form, the elastic material might still be something of a moot point.
      As for the bodybuilder being thrown off, there's always bigger fishes espacilly if your the body builder that owes steroid payment.

    • @rashkavar
      @rashkavar 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dan Maximus In all honesty, I know very little about the details of how the leg would be injured, and I did say that I would probably expect some fairly significant leg damage. I was basically conceptualizing a limb as a rope made of muscle that happens to have some rigid bone in it. Legs are thicker than arms, thus make for a stronger rope. My point about the body builder was along the steroid abuse lines - some of the extreme cases have arms that appear to be significantly larger than their legs.
      As for the damage the hook itself does, it would probably be rather significant. If its claw or grappling hook shaped, its only real means of grabbing onto something is to hook around it or stab one or more spikes THROUGH it. This would cause some fairly dramatic damage, and could well kill a person when applied to the leg, depending on whether or not it hits the femoral artery.
      And given what Batman's willing to do with your average street thug, I'm pretty sure he'd be totally OK with crippling Joker for life. And killing him by accident while trying to save him might well be totally OK for Batman, even if he's the source of the original threat (at least in the Nolan-verse; Comics Batman has probably already come up against this eventuality at least half a dozen times by now).

  • @InvntdXNEWROMAN
    @InvntdXNEWROMAN 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Argument invalid, you didn't give batman prep-time.

  • @DrummerGhisi
    @DrummerGhisi 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Nerdist wouldnt it be easier as a solution for batman to use some sort of elastic hope that dicipates the freefall moviment (energy) as it deforms/ stretches? would the same thing apply to spiderman?i tought spider web was so strong because it was so elastic

  • @rockclimbing3844
    @rockclimbing3844 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I always wondered in the back of my mind the grappling hook would do more damage than help.

  • @samgardner7376
    @samgardner7376 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Too late, it's been Googled.

  • @nickwalker7850
    @nickwalker7850 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    BOOOOOOOO!!!! WHY'D YOU HAVE TO BRING UP GWEN?! BOOOOO!!!!

  • @MonochromeHeart
    @MonochromeHeart 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mainly watch Nerdist for this show. I love the great scientific analysis of theoretical subjects based on games and movies, and Kyle seems like a very pleasant person, seemingly cool and with a good sense of humour. I look forward to watching more of this brilliant show!

  • @suspiciousindividual7657
    @suspiciousindividual7657 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What the hell were you thinking??? Talk about arms ripping off at tug a war then tell me NOT to Google it...Come now I have to. lol

  • @codymosby3650
    @codymosby3650 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    DEAD!

  • @thekrumpetking2821
    @thekrumpetking2821 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Kyle really isn't funny

    • @Nerdist
      @Nerdist  8 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      +The Krumpet King Thanks for watching! -- KH

    • @andy77246
      @andy77246 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +Nerdist Savage

    • @isaacnorris3432
      @isaacnorris3432 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      250,000 views, this comment posted one month ago, zero likes on your comment. Hmm :/

    • @ieuanstrangward8503
      @ieuanstrangward8503 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Isaac Norris and your point is .....

    • @isaacnorris3432
      @isaacnorris3432 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      starkiller thompson hahahahahahaha

  • @dark_neverland
    @dark_neverland 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would LOVE to see the gag reel for Because Science.

  • @MsDjessa
    @MsDjessa 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Speaking of unpleasant science, do you have any video about explosive decompression?

  • @bobohm21
    @bobohm21 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are cables made from synthetic fibers (often used in recovery straps for vehicles or for tie downs of heavy cargo) that have the strength of steel, or more, but also have a lot more stretch. They would give you a lot more leeway by increasing the time to stop.

  • @michaelboston9794
    @michaelboston9794 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know if anyone else noticed or mentioned it... but in the last clip from the dark knight rises, when the joker is caught with the grappling hook, the rope doesn't go rigid instantly... it appears to stretch... thus allowing more time for the force to dissipate. Maybe not enough... but something to consider in the calculations for the last clip.

  • @JB-nt7ph
    @JB-nt7ph 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    If somebody teleported it would cause a sonic boom as the air collided to fill in the low pressure but what would happen at the destination. Would it creat a high pressure wave that could cause damage or would it just make your ears pop?

  • @DexLuther
    @DexLuther 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In the last clip, you see Joker slow down after his leg is grappled. He doesn't stop suddenly. He continues falling for a bit and slows to a stop.

  • @adalqureshi3515
    @adalqureshi3515 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi Nerdist, going on what youv explained about the grapple hook. Does this principle apply to if u save another person by grabbing them as they fall? There is a scene in Batman Begins where Bruce is sliding on snow to grab Ra's Al Ghul from the cliff and uses his arm blades to hook himself to a stop before the edge.

  • @AndrewJohnson-oy8oj
    @AndrewJohnson-oy8oj ปีที่แล้ว

    Whenever Nightcrawler teleports there is a "bamf" sound effect. That "bamf" is the sound of the air imploding into the vacuum that he left behind. Len Wein thought of that from day one!

  • @nemanjamarkovic4400
    @nemanjamarkovic4400 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    about the nightcrawler question: doesn't the puff of black smoke that's left behind him after teleportation deny somehow the sonic boom?

  • @ladenbark6005
    @ladenbark6005 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    He was like ooooohh

  • @patlauron
    @patlauron 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Air resistance should always play a factor, especially for Batman's cape or a victim with a big skirt as the latter would slow down descent. Also we're assuming Batman's cable snaps taught when catching a falling body when the grapple could have a setting wherein the cable eases out to a stop or be very flexible, lessening the energy.

  • @TheKrensada
    @TheKrensada 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if his Grapnel had a countermeasure for that? I know they didn't show it in the films, but what if instead of the wire coming to a complete stop it instead had an antilock breaking system where it would slow down to a stop?

  • @Jynxedlove
    @Jynxedlove 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    for nightcrawler, I think it's safe to assume that he does not create a vacuum because he is being replaced with the air from the realm he teleports to between his teleports. We know from various episodes and issues that he leaves behind a sulfuric smell, the same kind as would be expected to find in the realm we see why they experiment to see how his power works. It is also commonly shown a bit of smoke bursting out from the area he was just in when he teleports.

  • @TheLankieMidget
    @TheLankieMidget 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    what if he used a bungee cord, because dont they literally mkae them so you can jump off a bridge and not die etc or would them not being in a harness still cause the arm ripping

  • @kerricaine
    @kerricaine 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    would using an elastic/bungee style cord work to slow someone down to a stop without killing them then?

  • @TealCheetah
    @TealCheetah 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    That little boy giggle at the end XD

  • @lamboking8able
    @lamboking8able 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it be possible that night crawler and other characters who teleport actually switch places with the atoms when they teleport even if that position did not have the same approximate mass as the person who is teleporting

  • @chronictoasty-_-1969
    @chronictoasty-_-1969 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This vid was informative but also so funny that I'm.....DEAD!!

  • @TheOne-qg9gt
    @TheOne-qg9gt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im a full grown man and you're a wise sensei. never be ashamed of the teachings you teach 😊 thank you for your amazing content!

  • @doulos1981
    @doulos1981 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the comics all of Batman's cables have some resistance like bungees slowing them down safely. When Batgirl first got started she originally tried to use regular rope while traveling at terminal velocity. Batman cut the rope before it became taunt saving her life. He then gave her batrope so she could swing more safely.

  • @Sydpart2
    @Sydpart2 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    On the Nightcrawler thing, gonna go a little more comic book than film. If memory serves Kurt does't quite teleport from one place in space to another so much as he teleports into another dimension and then nearly instantly reappears in our own in a different spot. He moves through this other dimension really quickly so it's kind of like a fast lane in a manner of speaking. So assuming there's matter in that other dimension wouldn't he be opening a doorway allowing the atoms he's occupying to switch places with the atoms from wherever he's at. There'd still be an audible noise but probably not a sonic boom and as far as what matter is brought in I think this is the explanation for the puff of smoke he leaves behind while teleporting.

  • @caligulajodorowsky
    @caligulajodorowsky 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I remember correctly your equation is not taking into account the whip effect that happens when the wire tenses. That's because the wire acts like an elastic, decelerating in an elastic form and actually making them bungee up and down for a while (which doesn't happen in the movies). The best explanation for this is that the grappling gun itself has some kind of decelerator-spring thing to smooth out the acceleration since there's no whip effect in the movies. This means the grappling hook actually elongates with hooke's law once grappled to avoid abrupt acceleration. Any device that works like that for this matter has to have some kind of spring-elastic mechanism in order to avoid the wire snapping or the gun collapsing from the force. BTW none of the footage shows instant 0.1s stopping without elasticity.

  • @AifDaimon
    @AifDaimon 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The way you yelled DEAD!!.... It's fucking hilarious

  • @damage6836
    @damage6836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Videos are always great goldie locks

  • @DragonPaladin01
    @DragonPaladin01 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I recall... at least in the Cartoon, when Nightcrawler teleports he leaves behind smoke, due to his teleportation passing through another plane of existence. Would this smoke not replace the space his atoms were, countering the vacuum effect and rendering his teleportation silent?

  • @RobKinneySouthpaw
    @RobKinneySouthpaw 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looked like the joker took almost a full second to stop all the way to me.