It's strange as 20 years later they were only going for £10k 20 years later after a collapse in house prices in 1992/3. I can even remember some up for auction with no reserve going for £5k. Took me 10 months to secure a mortgage in 1993. No more than 2 1/2 times your salary. Regulation on lending was very tight. Certainly some huge changes in the last 50 and 30 years.
I remember areas of Leeds like this when I was a little kid. Back to back houses with 'flags' for pavement and cobblestreet roads, outside lavatories shared by four housesholds in the binyard, and some still even had coalfires. But the thing is that they had a better sense of community; everybody vaguely knew each other. You won't find that in cities in the UK anymore.
for near 100 years my family lived in the slums of Pendleton Salford they lived in the streets next to each other relatives lived and took on other family members near hundred years on family scattered no sense of community anymore how things change for good and bad
unreal that they built towerblocks to replace the slums and then had to knock down most of the towerblocks ffs as they were built badly too, the footage without sound is a bit creepy!
The obvious thing to me do have been done would have been to renovate the existing houses and avoid breaking up the communities, though I'm wondering in hindsight whether that would have been a good solution, or if these houses would still have been slums 20 years later.
But they had to do something - the flats only became a problem when the residents filling them weren't monitered, thus creating ghettos. Take Park Hill in Sheffield. It was only in the 1980's that they became undesirable due to an influx of refugees seeking affordable housing, and upkeep of the buildings declining.
@FuckMUFCGOLFC Salford/Kersal are separate councils to Manchester. Salford is a separate city, but it is joined to Manchester by a road called Deansgate and the A6. It takes about 15 minutes to walk from central Manchester to central Salford. Central Manchester doesn't have housing like this anymore, or at all, but Ardwick is very close to the centre, and Ardwick is where they based Shameless (if that gives you any idea about housing). Big love for this city :)
@rubberplantsandwich Weird, because I lived in Bramley for years and was up there today! The place is/has gone down hill fast. The Cardigan pub is falling to bits, more charity and pawn shops in the precinct (a sure sign of a poverty striken area) and gangs of teenagers, ages from 8 to early 20's roam the streets looking for trouble, or someone to go in the shop for them. Urban blight all over again. Strangely, Bramley is still a predominantly white area of Leeds.
I would rather live in those slummy houses today with a sense of community, kindness and friendship, with family, and the chippy just down the road, than in some new subdivision anywhere or council fking estate.
Many slums were still "council fKing houses" as you put it , just Victorian ones that had come under the council's control once they were formed as we know them today . The main problem with uk social housing today is because of two pieces of legislation (housing act 1977 and right to buy 1980) in order to be able to rent them you have to have no money and be very vulnerable ...eg ex-offenders, single and unemployed, addicts, the elderly or sick therefore the traditional estate as we know it has ,since that legalisation and those with a bit of savings buying then selling their council house and moving away , has tenants only from the categories I mentioned instead of a mix like the estates had when they were first built. Plus it mainly being working class people in industrial jobs who lost their jobs during the De industrialization of the 70s to the 90s.
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Thank you so much for uploading this! R.I.P. Tony Wilson.
Only watching this to see and hear the great Tony Wilson.
WOW Impressive find
Tony Wilson R.I.P
0:55 if only houses cost 5 grand now.
It's strange as 20 years later they were only going for £10k 20 years later after a collapse in house prices in 1992/3.
I can even remember some up for auction with no reserve going for £5k.
Took me 10 months to secure a mortgage in 1993. No more than 2 1/2 times your salary. Regulation on lending was very tight. Certainly some huge changes in the last 50 and 30 years.
I remember areas of Leeds like this when I was a little kid. Back to back houses with 'flags' for pavement and cobblestreet roads, outside lavatories shared by four housesholds in the binyard, and some still even had coalfires. But the thing is that they had a better sense of community; everybody vaguely knew each other. You won't find that in cities in the UK anymore.
for near 100 years my family lived in the slums of Pendleton Salford they lived in the streets next to each other relatives lived and took on other family members near hundred years on family scattered no sense of community anymore how things change for good and bad
thanks for posting this!
unreal that they built towerblocks to replace the slums and then had to knock down most of the towerblocks ffs as they were built badly too, the footage without sound is a bit creepy!
Fascinating.
The obvious thing to me do have been done would have been to renovate the existing houses and avoid breaking up the communities, though I'm wondering in hindsight whether that would have been a good solution, or if these houses would still have been slums 20 years later.
5-10k for a house Holy moly!
But they had to do something - the flats only became a problem when the residents filling them weren't monitered, thus creating ghettos. Take Park Hill in Sheffield. It was only in the 1980's that they became undesirable due to an influx of refugees seeking affordable housing, and upkeep of the buildings declining.
45 years later and the same situation with the same 'solutions' being provided, ever get the feeling you've been cheated?
Watching in January 2019. Flats in these buildings are now 800,000 pounds for a one bedroom. (I’m being sarcastic, but I’m not really that far off.)
@FuckMUFCGOLFC Salford/Kersal are separate councils to Manchester. Salford is a separate city, but it is joined to Manchester by a road called Deansgate and the A6. It takes about 15 minutes to walk from central Manchester to central Salford. Central Manchester doesn't have housing like this anymore, or at all, but Ardwick is very close to the centre, and Ardwick is where they based Shameless (if that gives you any idea about housing).
Big love for this city :)
@rubberplantsandwich Weird, because I lived in Bramley for years and was up there today! The place is/has gone down hill fast. The Cardigan pub is falling to bits, more charity and pawn shops in the precinct (a sure sign of a poverty striken area) and gangs of teenagers, ages from 8 to early 20's roam the streets looking for trouble, or someone to go in the shop for them. Urban blight all over again. Strangely, Bramley is still a predominantly white area of Leeds.
Sorry could not watch this because of the time bar right across the front!
Even worse now.
Always thought Tony Wilson was a really attractive man. x
Tony Wilson Mr Manchester
Basically an episode of Coronation Street
Ironically Corrie filmed shots from the 1975-1990 titles in these streets.
Our 1st house, a 3 bed semi in Higher Blackley £6,300. We thought we had signed our souls to the devil. 1975 i think.
I would rather live in those slummy houses today with a sense of community, kindness and friendship, with family, and the chippy just down the road, than in some new subdivision anywhere or council fking estate.
Many slums were still "council fKing houses" as you put it , just Victorian ones that had come under the council's control once they were formed as we know them today . The main problem with uk social housing today is because of two pieces of legislation (housing act 1977 and right to buy 1980) in order to be able to rent them you have to have no money and be very vulnerable ...eg ex-offenders, single and unemployed, addicts, the elderly or sick therefore the traditional estate as we know it has ,since that legalisation and those with a bit of savings buying then selling their council house and moving away , has tenants only from the categories I mentioned instead of a mix like the estates had when they were first built. Plus it mainly being working class people in industrial jobs who lost their jobs during the De industrialization of the 70s to the 90s.
Frank Allaun what a loss to the movement and Salford when he died....................
average house price 10,000 pounds. today it's like 400,000.
Do you live in then future? House prices are not £400,000 on average.