Absolutely awesome video! I think most riders make some mods to their bikes, and some small ones can make a big difference. It’s great to see how these bikes compare as most people own them.
Great idea. Would love to see the same thing for the 250F's. Not many area's are 450 friendly these days outside of socal. PDS chassis feels really stiff to me now, think they went to a steeper angle with the shorter shock.
I’m surprised you guys don’t run the G2 throttle tamers. I find they are a must for off road on a 4 stroke. I use one on my 250fx I ride a lot of super rough trails. Almost can’t ride without it. Might just be the fact that I’m so used to a 2 stroke.
@ sick!! I’m not sure what it is with this bike but I find slow technical stuff such as slow wheelies or circle wheelies I just can’t get it done. I could do circles on my old yz250 2 stroke but this thing just isn’t the same down low. I’ve tried several different maps from keefer. Wondering if I should try to make my own. Unfortunately winter is here in Canada
So the Xtrig clamps on the 2023 KTM frames softened the bike up? I imagined the marketing behind those clamps are that they are supposed to be stiffer than stock/help the forks not deflect so much?
We've done more testing since then and the biggest difference with the XTRIGS was the offset change vs stock. We've since tried Ride Engineering 23.5mm Offset Clamps and get the benefits of the offset and also getting a much softer/more compliant front end feel with the Ride Eng clamps.
110 wide rear tires on 450's? My kawi came stock with a 120 and it still could use more traction. Do the other bikes come stock with 110 size tires or was the 110 chosen by rider preference? Never mind i watched more and see an autoclutch was installed on them all. What a waste of time for reviews.
Love this type of review! Get someone else to narrate. The stumbling and mumbling was very distracting. And show the rankings at the end! Was interested to see rankings stock/modified and why
Absolutely awesome video! I think most riders make some mods to their bikes, and some small ones can make a big difference. It’s great to see how these bikes compare as most people own them.
Great idea. Would love to see the same thing for the 250F's. Not many area's are 450 friendly these days outside of socal. PDS chassis feels really stiff to me now, think they went to a steeper angle with the shorter shock.
Hold up, some places aren't 450 friendly? How so, besides the weak generation of riders who can't handle them...Discuss.
Great review
I’m surprised you guys don’t run the G2 throttle tamers. I find they are a must for off road on a 4 stroke. I use one on my 250fx I ride a lot of super rough trails. Almost can’t ride without it. Might just be the fact that I’m so used to a 2 stroke.
Check TTTT #232 about 1:45
@ sick!! I’m not sure what it is with this bike but I find slow technical stuff such as slow wheelies or circle wheelies I just can’t get it done. I could do circles on my old yz250 2 stroke but this thing just isn’t the same down low. I’ve tried several different maps from keefer. Wondering if I should try to make my own. Unfortunately winter is here in Canada
So the Xtrig clamps on the 2023 KTM frames softened the bike up? I imagined the marketing behind those clamps are that they are supposed to be stiffer than stock/help the forks not deflect so much?
We've done more testing since then and the biggest difference with the XTRIGS was the offset change vs stock. We've since tried Ride Engineering 23.5mm Offset Clamps and get the benefits of the offset and also getting a much softer/more compliant front end feel with the Ride Eng clamps.
I wonder how a RMZ 450 would have done with those mods
Great video! Which track is this? Thanks
This was done at Glen Helen Raceway
Would've been interesting to see the old KTM chassis in the mix.
We had this in our "stock" shootout with a 2023 GasGas EX450F. It finished in 4th place amongst the Yamaha, Kawasaki, and Honda.
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110 wide rear tires on 450's? My kawi came stock with a 120 and it still could use more traction. Do the other bikes come stock with 110 size tires or was the 110 chosen by rider preference?
Never mind i watched more and see an autoclutch was installed on them all. What a waste of time for reviews.
Only the CRF and KTM had an auto clutch, the KX and YZ had manual clutches. Also, a 110 rear tire isn't all that uncommon...
Love this type of review! Get someone else to narrate. The stumbling and mumbling was very distracting. And show the rankings at the end! Was interested to see rankings stock/modified and why
We noted the rankings in the beginning but here they are:
Modified-
1. Yamaha: 2+3+1+1+1+3+4+3 = 18
2. KTM: 3+4+3+3+3+1+1+1 = 19
3a. Kawasaki: 4+1+2+2+2+4+3+4 = 21
3b. Honda: 1+2+4+4+4+2+2+2 = 21
Stock-
1. Kawasaki: 1+2+3+2+1+1+1+2 = 13
2a. Yamaha: 4+1+4+3+3+2+2+1 = 20
2b. Honda: 2+4+1+1+2+3+4+3 = 20
4. GasGas: 3+3+2+4+4+4+3+4 = 27
Some people dont have the voice for commentary This dude from DBT is so hard to listen to
We tried to pay him less to make him leave, but you can't get much lower....
Kawasaki easy win