Wish I'd just stuck with my G.I. set-up & added a Sawyer filter. I've got so many choices I think I talk myself out of going camping from the sheer exhaustion of trying to decide what to take & digging down to it. The G.I. cup, lid & stove is pretty hard to beat for keeping things simple.
Old school is hard to beat, But I'm finding myself grabbing my Grayl with mil bag more now, I use the Pathfinder bag with cup, lid and stove, it has good size pocket on the front and molly all around it. This has become my go to .. it all fits with room for more. Keep doing these comparison videos and showing other ways to enjoy the outdoors. Your a great teacher for the outdoors
Since I rarely find myself in need of filtering water I'll be sticking with my Oasis and Boundless voyage cookset in a Helikon Tex E&E pouch. Your videos never cease to impart knowledge Blackie! Bill Doyle
Good video Blackie. Like someone else mentioned old school is hard to beat. One con that wasn't mentioned and this goes for any and all filtration systems is in cold weather if your filter freezes it's game over that filter is done and then your back to boiling and or water tabs and then you add in the price of a new filter and that turns into a huge con.
it really is especially in my deep south when your hot and need water a cold stream is great but to have to boil and wait hrs for it to cool proper or add tabs is a hassle being able to dip the cup press it closed and still have cold water right out of the ground and drink all you need its really worth the high cost
I have the same setup you have with the Grayl, except I have sawyer filter and a Nalgene bottle. was thinking of going with a steel kleen canteen bottle. I probably ought to get a mil bank bag. it's not as important out west since we tend to have more clear water. but it's still not a bad idea. I like the idea of flipping the handle around on the Stanley cup but my Nalgene won't nest in it anyway. also the lid of the Stanley fits the drinking cup i have perfectly. so it's doing double duty.
Gr8 video, a nalgene will fit in that usgi canteen pouch, with a nesting cup. My go to for a short hike and camp, is the Mors bush pot, the lixada gasifier wood stove nests inside perfeck,along with misc. Free twigs most everywhere. And sawyer mini, for the water.
Probably too late, but to replace the plastic tab on that Stanley pot, try one of these: Nite Ize SB2-03-11 Size-2 S-Biner Dual Carabiner. Works well with much easier on and off.
Good commentary comparison, Blackie. I would ask for a price comparison between the sets, and compared it also to the titanium GI sets, along with their heat retention or heat shedding characteristics as a potential advantage over steel. As always, you present information that is useful, understandable, and sensible.
Depending on the size you COULD put a life straw inside the grayl and get even QUICKER drank of water from that cool stream. Been watching you for awhile and David Pearson, learning lots from both of you. Knowledge is power.
thank you yes a straw could ride there but i would suggest it being on a strap of some other quick access point and save the grail for the big canteen job plus filling cooking pots
The biggest downside of the grayl system is the half kilo that it weighs empty. It's worth the carry but worth noting. Also, since this video was made, you can get ultra presses, which are a smaller version.
I carry both, the nalgene canteen and GI cup and the grayling with Milbank bag with the Stanley cook pot. I guess I'm kind of a gear junkie! Hope you had a wonderful xmas and will have a happy new year! It gotta be better than 2020! ATB Sam Adler
Blackie.... excellent comparison and breakdown on the two systems. My only complaint is you failed to mention the HIGH cost of the Grayl system. Nice job, thanks for sharing.... Ax
Awesome comparison! I also have both but am working on getting used to the Grayl and system I have for it. I am thinking of adding some of my spices and stuff to my Blackbird haversack as even with the tin pocket on the Stitched Gear carrier, I tend to bring more stuff with me than the tin will hold. I’ll follow up with ya at your gathering next spring! Take care!
As you know I do more hiking than base camping and the Grayl is great to quickly get a cool drink of water. I need to order the Stich Gear carrier. Thanks for sharing.
Good video Blackie, I hope that you and your family had a great Christmas!! The Grayl Geopress (full size version) holds 24 ounces vs the G.I. canteen of 32 ounces. I have 2 Geopresses, 1 on my pack and the 2nd one as a standalone hydration/cook kit in a tall Maxpedition bottle holder (with extra pouch for a fire kit) and sling that I keep in my truck. Personally, I wouldn't even consider buying the "UltraLight" version as it's capacity is only 16 ounces.
your reasoning has solid logic . i just can't bring my cheap self to purchase the grayl at its higher cost and higher up keep value . IF i go round i use a sawyer with a kleen canteen and the same pot and cup you have. If i go USGI i use a stainless steel canteen with cup, never found a solid use to have a stove, with nearly the same setup you have and a sawyer water filter with it as well. I have crawled the mountains of NC and never needed more.
Good job, But 1 advantage of old school army canteen pouch is its furry padded interior. yes it keeps quieter, but it main purpose is evaporative cooling ( many of the new water bottle bags have it too) just soak it with water and place your canteen inside. As it dries it cools your water. TY Blackie !
sorry.To the gent that asked Geo press takes 8 seconds to filter a bottle of water.Filters heavy metal viruses,ect.Check web site.Good info.Want to add a Stanley.Geo press little pricey.Can't freeze them.Keep up great work
What about the Pathfinder bag that came with it water bottle for the round one with the grill fit in it? Or one of the other less expensive bags like the Pathfinder bag would it fit in there? And if you had the Pathfinder around water bottle in canteen you would need to get the Stanley canteen correct? I really enjoy your videos buddy I’ve been with you since 2013. Keep them coming I keep watching and passing them all day everybody.
You have me thinking about trying a Grayl filter instead of my usual Sawyer Squeeze. The small millbank bag is a game changer. Have you seen the simple theory gear dot com stove for the Stanley pot? It looks like an elegant solution to me, and the one who dies owning the most stoves wins, right? :)
Blackie, I watched your newest video, and I rewatched this one. The question I've had for some time is, knowing about the funkiness that happens drinking from water containers for days, can you sanitize the Grayl in the field? I'm assuming of you drink directly from it, it will foul over time? Thanks!
I take a couple brown napkins from Taco Bell and sit my Stanley pot in the center and pull the napkins up around it and then sit it in my Walmart cup. No rattles. Plus you can always use the napkins if you want to.
Blackie, after you use the Grayl for a few days,you come home and put it away. How do you store and clean it after every use? Then say, three weeks later, do you need to do anything special to use it again?
i take mine and seperate the filter from the unit and clean then i squeeze a bit of tap water thru the filter and pour out and let air dry out side of the cup..then i put up till next time..
Just bought one of the Stanley pots, but I cannot for the life of me get the handle off like you did. Did they make the spread pieces longer on recent models?
You could always file a little of the ends of the handle until you can get it out. Though I would think the handles are put in by hand so it should just come out like what was shown in his video.
mine is issue stainless..but i have no issues with the aluminum as long as you understand when you sand it you expose it to air and its a little toxic till a oxidation film forms (about 4 hrs) then its safe again..
Wish I'd just stuck with my G.I. set-up & added a Sawyer filter. I've got so many choices I think I talk myself out of going camping from the sheer exhaustion of trying to decide what to take & digging down to it. The G.I. cup, lid & stove is pretty hard to beat for keeping things simple.
Love the Red Nose Pit Bull puppy! An identical twin to mine.
Very cool!
Old school is hard to beat, But I'm finding myself grabbing my Grayl with mil bag more now, I use the Pathfinder bag with cup, lid and stove, it has good size pocket on the front and molly all around it. This has become my go to .. it all fits with room for more. Keep doing these comparison videos and showing other ways to enjoy the outdoors. Your a great teacher for the outdoors
thanks..i will do more in the near future..safe journeys
If only Grayl would come up with a water filter unit that is shaped like an Army canteen, that would be great!
Since I rarely find myself in need of filtering water I'll be sticking with my Oasis and Boundless voyage cookset in a Helikon Tex E&E pouch. Your videos never cease to impart knowledge Blackie! Bill Doyle
Good video Blackie. Like someone else mentioned old school is hard to beat. One con that wasn't mentioned and this goes for any and all filtration systems is in cold weather if your filter freezes it's game over that filter is done and then your back to boiling and or water tabs and then you add in the price of a new filter and that turns into a huge con.
Good job in highlighting the pros and cons between the two. The ability of the Grayl to purify water faster is a huge benefit when time is a factor.
it really is especially in my deep south when your hot and need water a cold stream is great but to have to boil and wait hrs for it to cool proper or add tabs is a hassle being able to dip the cup press it closed and still have cold water right out of the ground and drink all you need its really worth the high cost
I love the way you figure out all this stuff and put different things together to make something that works. Thanks for another great video!
I agree this guy must be near genius or something.
I've been watching your channel for a few months and i fucken love it. I like the kidney cup too.
I have the same setup you have with the Grayl, except I have sawyer filter and a Nalgene bottle. was thinking of going with a steel kleen canteen bottle. I probably ought to get a mil bank bag. it's not as important out west since we tend to have more clear water. but it's still not a bad idea. I like the idea of flipping the handle around on the Stanley cup but my Nalgene won't nest in it anyway. also the lid of the Stanley fits the drinking cup i have perfectly. so it's doing double duty.
I have the same setup. I have a steel nalgene backpacker bottle and it fits perfectly.
Cant say enough good about Blackie and his vids. Im just gonna go through and thumbs up all the comments I agree with! Thx Blackie!
Gr8 video, a nalgene will fit in that usgi canteen pouch, with a nesting cup. My go to for a short hike and camp, is the Mors bush pot, the lixada gasifier wood stove nests inside perfeck,along with misc. Free twigs most everywhere. And sawyer mini, for the water.
Probably too late, but to replace the plastic tab on that Stanley pot, try one of these: Nite Ize SB2-03-11 Size-2 S-Biner Dual Carabiner. Works well with much easier on and off.
Good commentary comparison, Blackie. I would ask for a price comparison between the sets, and compared it also to the titanium GI sets, along with their heat retention or heat shedding characteristics as a potential advantage over steel. As always, you present information that is useful, understandable, and sensible.
Great show, great information, great insight, thank you for sharing. 🇺🇸
Depending on the size you COULD put a life straw inside the grayl and get even QUICKER drank of water from that cool stream.
Been watching you for awhile and David Pearson, learning lots from both of you.
Knowledge is power.
thank you yes a straw could ride there but i would suggest it being on a strap of some other quick access point and save the grail for the big canteen job plus filling cooking pots
Good comparison video ,thanks for sharing , stay safe , God bless !
Thanks, you too!
Thanks for the comparisons . Happy Holidays
Same to you!
The biggest downside of the grayl system is the half kilo that it weighs empty. It's worth the carry but worth noting. Also, since this video was made, you can get ultra presses, which are a smaller version.
I carry both, the nalgene canteen and GI cup and the grayling with Milbank bag with the Stanley cook pot. I guess I'm kind of a gear junkie!
Hope you had a wonderful xmas and will have a happy new year! It gotta be better than 2020! ATB Sam Adler
Blackie.... excellent comparison and breakdown on the two systems. My only complaint is you failed to mention the HIGH cost of the Grayl system. Nice job, thanks for sharing.... Ax
My bad it is a investment for sure i am very happy with mine
You've sold me on the nalgene canteen.
And I really dig your furry assistant.
Awesome comparison! I also have both but am working on getting used to the Grayl and system I have for it. I am thinking of adding some of my spices and stuff to my Blackbird haversack as even with the tin pocket on the Stitched Gear carrier, I tend to bring more stuff with me than the tin will hold. I’ll follow up with ya at your gathering next spring! Take care!
As you know I do more hiking than base camping and the Grayl is great to quickly get a cool drink of water. I need to order the Stich Gear carrier. Thanks for sharing.
Great job comparing the two. Lots to think about, really like that greyl purifier big advantage
I also have both, they are different and the same.
Thank you for you're recommendations.
You never steer me wrong.
glad to be of help safe journeys to you
Good comparison Blackie. I have the Grayl components, but I have not put them in a kit yet. The US kit I’ve had for years. Happy New Year
Thanks for the rundown on these two systems sir great video have a great week
Thanks, you too!
Interesting analysis...both outstanding kits. Thanx!
Thanks for watching!
Awesome video was wondering about the 2 myself
Good comparison. Thanks for sharing. -Tennessee Smoky
Both are quite serviceable! Good info. Happy New year to you and Mrs Blackie 🤠
Thx Blackie! That was very helpful ! Hope you and family had a Merry Christmas!
Good video Blackie, I hope that you and your family had a great Christmas!!
The Grayl Geopress (full size version) holds 24 ounces vs the G.I. canteen of 32 ounces.
I have 2 Geopresses, 1 on my pack and the 2nd one as a standalone hydration/cook kit in a tall Maxpedition bottle holder (with extra pouch for a fire kit) and sling that I keep in my truck.
Personally, I wouldn't even consider buying the "UltraLight" version as it's capacity is only 16 ounces.
HAPPY NEW YEAR Blackie I gave ya a sub👍
your reasoning has solid logic . i just can't bring my cheap self to purchase the grayl at its higher cost and higher up keep value . IF i go round i use a sawyer with a kleen canteen and the same pot and cup you have. If i go USGI i use a stainless steel canteen with cup, never found a solid use to have a stove, with nearly the same setup you have and a sawyer water filter with it as well. I have crawled the mountains of NC and never needed more.
Right on!
Good job, But 1 advantage of old school army canteen pouch is its furry padded interior. yes it keeps quieter, but it main purpose is evaporative cooling ( many of the new water bottle bags have it too) just soak it with water and place your canteen inside. As it dries it cools your water. TY Blackie !
very true and often i would use the cover as a pot cozy to help keep food warm on cold days
Great vid.comparison.I have combo,Gryl.Geo press,Path
finder cook set with stainless bottle,cup,stove,lid
carry extra bottle with me
sorry.To the gent that asked Geo press takes 8 seconds to filter a bottle of water.Filters heavy metal
viruses,ect.Check web site.Good info.Want to add
a Stanley.Geo press little pricey.Can't freeze them.Keep up great work
Good stuff!
What about the Pathfinder bag that came with it water bottle for the round one with the grill fit in it? Or one of the other less expensive bags like the Pathfinder bag would it fit in there? And if you had the Pathfinder around water bottle in canteen you would need to get the Stanley canteen correct? I really enjoy your videos buddy I’ve been with you since 2013. Keep them coming I keep watching and passing them all day everybody.
You have me thinking about trying a Grayl filter instead of my usual Sawyer Squeeze. The small millbank bag is a game changer. Have you seen the simple theory gear dot com stove for the Stanley pot? It looks like an elegant solution to me, and the one who dies owning the most stoves wins, right? :)
lol something like that
Thanks for the video.
You bet
I have the Stanley pot and steel cup like the second set. Something else to point out is the lid for the Stanley pot fits the steel cup.
Shane Coffey has some videos using the Stanley pot to bake with. You.may have already seen them.
Put a beer koozie on the bottom of the Stanley cook pot and it will help with the noise and will keep the grime off the Ozark trail cup.
good idea thanks
@@BLACKIETHOMAS
No. Thank you for your videos.
Damn fine idea thank you
Blackie you should do a video on to pros and cons of having a cat vs dog as cohost. Hahaha.
yep her name ( or at least we call her pen pen ) she is a new walk up from the neighborhood..she is very sweet
I carry the bcb cups and a nalgene clear canteen and a grayl to process water for cooking and drinking and refilling my canteen
Blackie, I watched your newest video, and I rewatched this one. The question I've had for some time is, knowing about the funkiness that happens drinking from water containers for days, can you sanitize the Grayl in the field? I'm assuming of you drink directly from it, it will foul over time? Thanks!
I'm sure your employee discount helped also for buying the cup and pot
How much do they weigh? Thank you for your post.
What's the weight difference between the two?
Thanks for the video.
Not much the grail set may be a bit more but not enough to really notice in field carry
Great video. What are the costs of replicating each of those systems?
It looks like adding a sawyer mini to the GI set would be the best solution.
You can use a small metal s-biner, instead of keyring. Then you have a clip hook
Absolutely 👌
I am having difficulty finding millbank bags, much less similar to the one you used.
I take a couple brown napkins from Taco Bell and sit my Stanley pot in the center and pull the napkins up around it and then sit it in my Walmart cup. No rattles. Plus you can always use the napkins if you want to.
Good video im waiting for you to break out that pathfinder skillet!
Coming soon!
All too familiar with red clay here. Both are great kits but haven’t picked up a grayle yet.
I have a short alcohol burner that
just barely fits under that canteen
cup ( no open fire necessary .
Blackie, after you use the Grayl for a few days,you come home and put it away. How do you store and clean it after every use? Then say, three weeks later, do you need to do anything special to use it again?
i take mine and seperate the filter from the unit and clean then i squeeze a bit of tap water thru the filter and pour out and let air dry out side of the cup..then i put up till next time..
Need a lid for my old military surplus cup
Just bought one of the Stanley pots, but I cannot for the life of me get the handle off like you did. Did they make the spread pieces longer on recent models?
You could always file a little of the ends of the handle until you can get it out.
Though I would think the handles are put in by hand so it should just come out like what was shown in his video.
Use a pair of pliers to get that lil extra push.
Where did you get that nalgene canteen ? I want one
Like my usgi kit.
blackie do you use a stainless steel or aluminum canteen cup? Any worries about using the aluminum one?
mine is issue stainless..but i have no issues with the aluminum as long as you understand when you sand it you expose it to air and its a little toxic till a oxidation film forms (about 4 hrs) then its safe again..
@@BLACKIETHOMAS thanks Blackie, much appreciated
What name of website for grayl leather cover
No stove w Grail?
Awesome 😍💋 💝💖♥️❤️
If you carry both it opens up more possibilities
What the hell is going blackie