Gundam Wing: The Iconic Mecha Anime That Captured a Generation
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- Gundam Wing Review War and Sacrifice | Nerd Talk | Anime Explained in English
In honor of Toonami's 25th Anniversary (Toonami 25th Anniversary), Nerd Talk Dan has revisited the After Colony timeline and made Gundam Wing: War and Sacrifice, an anime retrospective, review, and analysis (anime explained in English video essay) about the anime which blazed a trail for anime in America; Mobile Suit Gundam Wing (New Mobile Report Gundam Wing).
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro: Gundam Wing Review | War and Sacrifice | Anime Explained in English
1:19 Chapter 1: Background
6:18 Chapter 2: Honorable Losers
12:27 Chapter 3: Conflict and Loss
15:02 Chapter 4: The Nobility of Sacrifice
21:08 Chapter 5: Aura of Dramatic Nobility
33:07 Chapter 6: Dramatic Story Without Stakes
40:12 Chapter 7: A Product of a More Innocent Time
42:06 Chapter 8: Last Impression
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Description:
With high expectations, Cartoon Network's Toonami, begins airing Mobile Suit Gundam Wing. In a move to expand the boundaries of the Cartoon Network action-animation block, Toonami programming heads scheme to bring new and unseen anime to western audiences, one of which would become the network’s star and pave the way for one of Japan’s most revered franchises, Mobile Suit Gundam. Gundam Wing opened a new market for anime and gundam mecha toys and models, and ushered in a golden age for Toonami and anime in America.
Taking place in the After Colony timeline (AC 195), Gundam Wing was the second of the, then, 3 alternate timeline Gundam shows (Mobile Fighter G Gundam, Mobile Suit Gundam Wing, After War Gundam X) which existed as standalone series outside of the mainline Universal Century (UC) timeline started by the original Mobile Suit Gundam and shown in numerous other Gundam works (Mobile Suit Z Gundam, Mobile Suit ZZ Gundam, Char's Counterattack, Mobile Suit Gundam F91, Mobile Suit Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket, Mobile Suit Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory, Mobile Suit Gundam: 08th MS Team).
While the show would still have a plethora of gundam mecha, Gundam Wing tried telling it's own story and explored new storytelling avenues. But, is Gundam Wing good? In Gundam Wing: War and Sacrifice, Nerd Talk Dan will look back at this gundam anime after more than 20 years and try to answer this question. So if you want to hear Gundam Wing explained, this Gundam Wing review will hopefully offer you a new perspective on a part of Toonami history.
Nerd Talk Dan looks at how Mobile Suit Gundam Wing brings up issues of war and sacrifice. And the nobility of sacrifice from the men and women we send into battle. Gundam Wing is famous for philosophical pontification on war and peace, but is Gundam Wing good at tackling such deep issues? Can a simple anime properly answer how humanity can move beyond war? We'll look at whether the animation of Gundam Wing as well as its musical score and J-Pop classics Just Communication and Rhythm Emotion, performed by Two Mix, properly conveyed the nobility of sacrifice of professional soldiers. We will also seek to answer whether Gundam Wing is good as a piece of entertainment.
So suit up, and get ready for Gundam Wing: War and Sacrifice.
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Arabic Dub changed some micro stuff and it made it way better. Also let me point that the Gundams at the beginning where designed OP enough for the shaw setting. However, imagine they got designed each as OP as possible with technology they have access too at full display from beginning perhaps more OP than later upgrade ?
By the last 20 ep the Gundams are very much more than capable together to destroy any military given a base to supply them. It is not plot armor but lecturely plot armor plus they are a very powerful mobile suites unites amongst an already overpowered concept of independent mobile suites.
They just lacked proper planning and they over written orginal plan very quickly plus lacked condirention. If they wirked together from the beginning properly and give more time and invested more into mobile suites design and systems the earth forces is the one that stands no chance.
However about the show ideas, justice is the most important thing. Justice includes freedom and other things but they share an equal place as amongst the primary elements of justice. For example, Peace is another element: to fulfill justice but you need both but however justice is more important. Because one without the other is tyrany especially peace without justice is a bigger tyrany than justice without peace as that includes oppression. So peace is not a gole or a solution but a by product overtime. Also don't forget there is people that wants something and evil that u have to stop and fight too. Peace has many forms and layers. The best and most important peace is the peace of mind and soul of so called inner-peace. That is very achievable and not linked with outside peace. Wanting just peace is a surrender and weakness plus immoral, because you accepted injustice.
A real example is Isreal and Plastain. Peace is only achievable until gov of Israel becomes religious like an actual kingdom of God like David and Solomon time accepting Islam and Christianity too killing Zionism replaced by Orthodox Jews and racists present where gov is a chancle of Noocracy elected presidents leaders (USA and CIA gets out and defeated) or goes back to Islam and Arabs, especially within a greater Muslim power like First Caliphate or Saladin times. Anything else is injustice.
(Not to mention Israel gov has not been serious at peace and they are controlled by USA. Also lets say a Plastain gov gets formed: Israel gov and cia will just fake a 911 or Main USA and Spain bs like event or any other excuse go to war with Plastain and takeover)
you're deeply preceptive in you're analyst, and I think you explained this to its core and amazing to explain some so enigmatic in its time. flawed or not though this is a very strange thing for its time because its ambiguous in its stance.
I almost suspect it itself is a counter form of American brainwashing it introduces ideas in vague ideas and then shows action scenes to lead into emotional consequences.
I know it left me questioning things going on around me as a kid and it reflected a kind of political backdrop where you would have to watch out for radicalized groups. its only become more true in a sense to.
but I say this in jest of course. but gundam wing is disturbing and thats what's fascinating about it.
Gundam Wing was insane show for me to watch because of its antiwar message and the aftermath of 9/11. Joining the marines 4 years later and being in iraq a few times, the show would be in the back of my mind during that time. Re-watching it after my time in and 3 tours to iraq made me appreciate it even more.
Firstly, thank you for your service Marine. I shall send you a box of crayons to honor you 😂. The show itself is a weird mix of deep and shallow. I can appreciate the ambition but sometimes it looked like they were just doing everything under the sun instead of letting things breath a bit.
If I can ask, as a veteran what particular parts of the show really resonate with you? And what did you come to appreciate post that experience? Hope you don’t mind me picking your brain as I’m writing my next video which deals with military literature and would love to hear from you about how media impacts your view of service.
Gundam Wing deserves a full-fledged remake treatment in the form of an EW re-adaptation, where the characters, themes and story is placed significantly above the mecha action.
Hey 三 Gundam! Thanks for commenting!
The closest we got was Glory of Losers which, full transparency, I haven’t read. But apparently that’s something it tried to do. It consolidated everything from the expanded lore into the main GW story and tried to clean it up a bit. The problem is just…how you create a story which properly addresses the themes of war? How do you solve the paradox of needing to fight in order to protect pacifism?
@@NerdTalkDan gundam 00 tackled the using war to create peace theme much better considering how that series ended
@@mpo48 yeah but 0080 wasn’t about how to create a peaceful world imo. It was more the tragedies of war by showing it in this micro scale. I think the above commenter was discussing specifically a wing remake.
@@NerdTalkDan im talking about gundam 00 here not 0080
@@mpo48 oops I must’ve misread! Gotta stop replying to comments right after I wake up 😬! Thanks for the reply!
Gundam Wing was the show that truly introduced me to the sci-fi genre when I was a kid. It still has me in a chokehold to this very day.
Also, the Wing Gundam Zero EW (aka. Wing Zero Custom) will always be the most iconic mobile suit in the Gundam franchise, with it’s beautiful angel wings. I mean hell, I still have the RG 1/144 scale kit.
Thanks for stopping by and sharing your story! It was a huge part of the childhoods of so many of us.
The RG kits have been great. I have the MG, but I’ll probably build the RG one soon.
@@NerdTalkDan definitely and you’re welcome! I once collected the kits so that I could have proper references for my Gundam art. What version of the MG do u have? The old MG from 2004 or the newer Ver. Ka with the transformation gimmick?
@@celestialspartan1176 The OG MG Zero Custom. It’s an interesting kit, but has a lot of issues that hopefully got fixed in the updated version. I’m eyeing the RG Wing Ver. Ka but there a few other kits I’ve been meaning to pick up first.
@@NerdTalkDanthat’s good man! Pick up the RG Wing Zero and Epyon! I highly recommend them.
As someone who got into gundam only a few years ago, Wing had quickly blitzed it's way into my top five favorite gundam shows; With the Tallgeese and Heavyarms as my favorites from the series.
Tallgeese is just gorgeous. If you get a chance, check out the artwork for Heavyarms ver. Ka.
Really didn't say death scythe...outrageous
One theme it touches on but I wish it fleshed out more was the use of unmanned mobile dolls. With the rise of drone warfare, it would've be an interesting way to explore the concept and its inherent dangers
I think it did the best it could with a pretty novel idea. It was around 1995 so I’m not sure how developed actual drone tech was let alone whether it was being used militarily to the extent we use it now.
I think it went pretty hard on it. Not sure what much more it could do from a Wing lens, within the universe and themes it had.
Touches on, it was a corner stone of the second half and why war itself had to end. I'd say it was a pretty major part of the sort of point of no return the show emphasized.
I think it needs a remake and a facelift.
Do Glory of the Losers, but with an FF7 remake level re-do.
It's time.
Ace Combat 7 is the only other media I've found that really goes hard on the drone/uacv (unmanned aerial combat vehicle) theme and explores it in the context of war and politics
Dude I remember I left the marines in 2009 then I think in 2010 we start to do heavy drone strikes. I would think of the speech Treize made when first introduced to the dones in the series....
I rewatch the entire thing almost twice a year sad in a way but goddamn is the story still so fun to watch
Thanks for stopping by David!
That’s awesome that you rewatch it so much and still enjoy it. Why do you like this particular Gundam series so much?
Endless waltz is a great Christmas
Honestly after watching the show as a kid in 2000 and seeing other Gundam shows and other tv shows... watching it again as an adult... I actually like it better. The one message I got out of the show that made it different than other Gundam shows... the other shows I've seen you have a naive, innocent pilot who has friends and loses them and realizes war is terrible. Gundam Wing skips that and gives you characters who already know war is terrible, who have already done horrible things, who have already lost people. There doesn't need to be a lot of character deaths to show the audience 'war is bad' when the lead character is clearly someone utterly broken by war and what he's done to the point he tries to kill himself 4 times in the first few episodes just so his miserable life as a soldier can finally end. Heero starts the show LOOKING TO DIE. Looking for any excuse to kill himself. And by the end of the show when he's shooting down Libra, he's not using that as an excuse to die, he's not dying to right his past sins, he's not committed to saving everyone even if it kills him... he's saying he'll survive, he'll keep living, he'll keep living life after this. That to me was the real message. You can lose everything, you can do horrible things, you can lose your childhood, lose your innocence, lose your soul... you can want to die because living is so miserable... and you can then find people, a cause, friends, someone special... who make you want to keep living.
Honestly I feel killing off any more characters than they did would cheapen it. All the pilots know loss already, all the soldiers know loss already. The civillians were shown loss through the show already. It was a lesson they already knew and understood.
Same here. Killing characters seems to be a go to tool for most writers kinda cliche to me now
It is fascinating how Gundam veered off into very different directions regarding both child soldiers and asymmetric warriors post 9/11. Regarding child soldiers, compare and contrast Wing with Iron Blooded Orphans.
Regarding asymmetric warfare, the comparison between Wing and 00 is also pretty stark.
IBO institutionalized child-soldiers and made it worse with literal slaves added to the mix. The five Gundam pilots in Wing were the only ones prominently shown, and they were trained like special ops operatives. As to asymmetric warfare, 00 isn't exactly analogous to Wing: they engaged in armed interventions without directly provoking the 3 power blocs to declare war-- they just ended up being the targets of a worldwide manhunt. Gundam Wing on the other hand clearly establishes that the five Gundams were designed as a consequence of the Earth Sphere government's tyranny, and the colonies had every intention of going to war had Operation Meteor went ahead as planned.
My daughter's name is Reylena, also she's not my daughter,but I love her like she's mine
Even though i disagree with the "last impression" part, i appreciate that i finally found someone talking in deep about the series and it's themes, unlike any other reviewer that sounds pretty much like this: "oh, repetitive animation, dumb ideas about war and peace and unlikable characters, boooo". See you next time and thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.
Thank you right back! Even though we disagree a bit, I hope you enjoyed it and it gave you something to think about during your next rewatch! I hope you’ll stop by the channel again. Have a great day!
Just because a reviewer has generally negative view on Wing, doesn't mean their reviews are shallow or wrong. Here's an example where two grown-up scholars deeply discussed Gundam Wing free of nostalgia, bias or agenda in a podcast: th-cam.com/video/hYnIcSJotNE/w-d-xo.html
@@androyus True but i'm not obliged to take you seriously if you say what everyone is saying while you refuse to elaborate, you know, like a REVIEW should be.
@@medranodiego8641 The elaboration is right there in the video that I linked in my previous comment 🤷
I love Wing; it was the seventh or eighth grade for me among some other greats like Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, Dragon Ball Z, Final Fantasy IX, Zelda Majora’s Mask, Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy X, and Dark Cloud.
Thanks for stopping by and commenting Felldoh! It was a real magical time. We were getting an influx of such cool content from Japan. Raise a glass to Toonami and Adult Swim for the memories! If you enjoyed Bebop, I have a video covering it which you might enjoy!
Yes let’s raise a glass indeed, and I will take my happy ass over to your Bebop video 👊🏻
This is probably the best analysis for Gundam Wing I've seen if this series was to ever get a remake it should include each of the pilots back stories in the manga adaptation that would've help flesh them out more
Thanks so much Wing Zero! It means a lot coming from a clear fan of the show. I don’t think we’ll ever get a remake, but you’re right that Glory of Losers would be a good template to base a remake around now that the GW lore has kind of solidified into its final form.
What made you a GW fan?
@@NerdTalkDan Gundam Wing for I'm pretty certain for most in the early 2000's Toonami was the revolutionary starting point into the franchise(in the western side of the world) one of the earlier shows I've watched, just like u like it because of how awesome it is, but re checking it out as an older version of me objectively it's not the best out there in comparison to the other franchise but not the worst neither still feeling Rhythm Emotions:)
@@wingzero-0014 I feel ya buddy. Thanks for sharing your story with us!
@@NerdTalkDan Sure, like to see something from the Universal Century timeline it has some popular shows like Zeta:)
@@wingzero-0014 I’m gonna review Zeta at some point, but the next Gundam related video I do is more likely 0080 or EW. But that won’t be for awhile since I have other video ideas to go through first. But I hope you’ll stay tuned to this channel for more content you might find interesting!
This is truly well done. So much so that I shared it on the Gundam Explained Discord channel. Thank you for making this video. You just earned yourself a new subscriber. Keep up the great work. 👍🏾
Thank you so much for your kind words and support Lucas. It means so much to me to hear Gundam fans enjoyed this video. In the words of Heero Yuy, Mission: Complete!
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You're welcome.
I can't wait for you to get into and finish Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans. It and Gundam 00 are spiritual successors to Gundam Wing that approach the plight of child soldiers or former child soldiers from different yet similar angles.
@@LucLightWolf121 yeah 00 will be a trip. I watched it when it was airing and loved it. I’ll get there eventually, but I hope you’ll give my non Gundam related work a chance!
But if you could pick the next Gundam series you’d like to see me cover, any requests?
@@NerdTalkDan Will do.
As far as requests goes: Mobile Suit Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory or Mobile Suit Gundam F91 would be interesting to talk about.
You would definitely see the nuances within both stories.
Fun fact about F91 is that it was meant to be a anime television series before that series was scrapped in favor of a compilation film.
That's why the film is so disjointed.
And Stardust Memory is essentially Gundam doing Top Gun in the Universal Century.
@@LucLightWolf121 it’s been a hot minute since I watched 0083. I’m a big fan of the mech designs in that OVA. I’m leaning more towards 0080 as the next Gundam I cover hopefully within the next year or so. It’s just such a beautiful story.
This was a fantastic breakdown of Wing. Loved using Wing's episode intros as your chapter breaks.
Thanks so much for your kind words Shimazusama! You’re one of the few people who picked up on what I was trying to do with those chapter breaks so well done! If you’re a kid of the 90s and 2000s I have a few other videos similar to this which might take you back to those days. Have a great day!
@@NerdTalkDan Yeah your video on Trust and Betrayal sent me here lol my favorite anime movie
For my part, everything surrounding the ZERO System showed the brainwashing side of warfare (especially since both guerrillas like the Gundam 5 and the conventional soldier Zechs were equally affected by it) while also keeping to Wing's idea that violence is a part of humanity that predates politics. I especially liked the parts where Quarte becomes uber extremist to support his cause--even at the expense of the people he took it up for--and how Heero's first run with ZERO had him realize how much harm the Gundam Scientists did to him and, presumably, the other 5.
I'm also under the impression that Zechs and Treize cooked up their Final War together (albeit, without talking to each other), meaning Zechs never actually believed in Colony Supremacy and only wanted to crash Libra into Earth to terrify everyone from the mere idea of war for the rest of history, not abandon Earth. Seems like what he and Treize were talking about the entire time, why Zechs never really seemed on the same page as White Fang and how he helped stop the colony crash when it became apparent that everyone got the message that war sucks. Did I misread all of that?
I will agree that 3 people surviving the epicenter of explosions is ridiculous, though. I also thought Duo's friend looked WAY too similar to Noin. I literal thought Duo's Friend was Noin once or twice.
Walker, the Ares pilot. captured the theme of the show best honestly.
There's also the Leo captain in episode 14.
It's a shame the series didn't have more characters like them to help get the point across.
Big agree on the mech design in wing, especially the grunt suits. The ares, mercurius and veyeate, all the tallgeese suits, and all the EW gundams are some of my favorite designs in gundam as a whole
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Yeah, Wing definitely has the best Mech designs in my opinion, arguably some of the best music too...too bad everything else is kinda medicore, at least compared to the rest of the series.
Sorry guys but Titans had best grunts
@@HardtoJedi Baund Doc will never stop being the ugliest mobile suit.
I can’t argue with that! I always liked the Taurus and Serpent suits.
Interestingly the points I latch onto I have seen no one analyze or discuss so might make a podcast about this show.
1. Autonomous weapons
2. Military industrial complex
3. Pacifism and self-defense
4. Idealism and philosophy
5. How rich nobles continue to rule the world
6. Characters who are defined by their emotions.
7. Melodrama
8. Showing war from the perspective of terrorist/guerrillas.
If they edit Gundam Wing into monochromatic colours it would go well with older audience, less distraction from the toy-ish colours and leave more room to focus on the politics.
I really liked your analysis, I've watched GW when young and discounted it for the repeative and inplausible fight scene and plot armors. But it will be refreshing indeed to watch it again with a political lense.
As hasty as it ends up being, it's a good entry point.
Hey MZM M! Thanks so much for your comment.
Yeah there were a lot of ways they could’ve tightened up the series, but it is what we got and I think it can be appreciated as a fun entry point to anime for so many of us. I don’t regret it having been such an important part of my formative years. I still love Gundam to this day because of it.
I hope you’ll stop by again!
This may be the best video on Gundam Wing yet.
Thanks for the kind words man! If you know any other Gundam Wing fans, you know what to show’em lol. Since you liked this video, I have others you might enjoy so I hope you’ll check them out. Have a great day!
That thumbnail 🔥😭
Thanks dude!
Gundam Wing and Toonami with DBZ had the corner on lock! Watched the series 5 times over and didn’t bat an eye!
For real. Don’t forget Tenchi and all the other goodness that was on Tokoyami at the time. It was like a golden age to be a kid lol
Thanks giving full info about Gundam Wing. When i was a Kid I'm very Fan on this TV Series 😊
I’m hope if brought back some good memories! Have an awesome day!
@@NerdTalkDan True you brought Happy Memories on your Content. And very satisfied about you Content. Thank you again ☺
Watching Wing in Toonami was one of the coolest things that happened as a kid, I was so into it I dressed like Heero all summer vacations haha
As a kid, i loved Gundam wing, the action music all stellar. As an adult who served in the military i cant help but resonate more with the u.c. timeline. Especially 08th ms team.
I tried rewatching wing for nostalgia, and man it literally feels like the ideals and beliefes of modern politicians. War bad, peace good. If everyone throws down their weapons there will never be war😊😊.
This was an excellent Retrospective, loved it. I never realised how stereotypical G Gundam was until those four side by side Gundams you showed. I know I’m a bit late to the party, but Gundam Wing is really awesome and this video did it justice.
Why'd you have to put the puppy shot in? Gets me every time.
Mission Accomplished 😆
Wing was the first Gundam series I watched, it good me hooked
I think it was for a lot of us and man what a good choice it was. The mercy alone blew my mind lol
Gundam Wing really does capture a generation of new Gundam Fans ever since 2000. It’s just a solid good start for those who want to see the first English Dub in the Gundam series.
Even there are fanfics involving Gundam as well. Even a continuing story of Heero Yuy ending up in the Cosmic Era or the Wing Boys get backup from a certain Assault Carrier and it’s five Gundam pilots.
Very deep so this in middle school going to high school since I was trying to find the fist serous first to last but no luck I saw this and follow most of the part thank you to finish the puzzel for me great review as all ways.
Thanks always for your continued support macewbee!
This is the best video I've seen on Gundam Wing. Subbed
Thanks so much for the kind words and support. If you know any other Gundam fans, you know where to send’em!
love the fair critque of a childhood show, well done!
Great review and thanks for the cool intro of two - mix of the OST and I am still shocked that is a duo I was thinking it was like a 4 or 5 peace band 😅
Haha Two Mix is a JPop legend for sure.
Chapter4 is why I loved GW (and where the online moniker I've used for over 20 years came from). It was refreshing, and is still somewhat rare decades later, to see media with such a blatant anti-war stance NOT take the angle of denigrating soldiers while also not pushing the then-emergent attitude that computers and autonomous weapons would defend us without needing to put men and women in harm's way. While some of Treize's speeches were grandiose and overly flowered, they very eloquently made the case that by removing the risk of loss in a war, you make it easier to sell and more likely to occur- which, counter-intuitively, puts more lives at risk, as the weapons become deadlier and more widespread as the 'risk' is lessened. He at first seems to be trying to glorify soldiers, but when you really listen to what he's saying, and especially on a rewatch after knowing the full arc of the plotline, you eventually realize that he knows removing the 'personal face' of war, by removing the soldiers, actually puts everyone at risk, as it's the soldiers' humanity, compassion, and ability to make decisions based on morality that actually keep people safe, while simultaneously realizing that if war is reduced to computers vs. computers, then people don't fear it as much since it's not their loved ones going off to do the fighting- and only by making people realize how much they stand to lose can you truly prevent wars. not through fear and 'strength', but by appealing to humanity and morality. I doubt it will ever actually work, but it's the most noble and realistic form of Pacifism I've ever seen espoused in mass media.
It's not an essay so that it is obligated to put forward a strong opinion. It doesn't have to because it's art and thats why its a great series
Thanks for stopping by. While I respect your opinion, I’m not sure “it’s great because it’s art” is a particularly strong argument.
that is not my argument. my argument is that it's a great series because it's great and beautiful art and art does not have to follow some arbitrary rules you or other people set@@NerdTalkDan
Gundam Wing is still one of my favorites next to Turn A best era of gundam imo.
I think it’s the same way for a lot of people! Were you one of the kids who caught it during the first airing in 2000?
Zeta and Turn A are the best.
What episode of GW is the music in 21:26-22:37 from?
Thanks for making this video... Great analysis BTW...
Th reason I fell in love with Wing was the seriousness of it all. So much praise to Toonami for introducing this to us back in the day. This and when they aired 08th MS Team.
Respectfully, while Wing is a bit sloppy here and there i resonate with it far more than most of the other series i have seen. Each one felt missing in something i was satisfied with Wing. I could watch any other series and feel put off but always return to Wing entertained. I honestly cant explain it and i dont think its the nostalgia.
Doesn’t Endless Waltz answer your question about the whole pacifism thing? Also, I recommend actually reading GOTL, a much better telling of the AC timeline
I’d have to take a rewatch. But the video was strictly about the series proper!
Great video! more Gundam series please.
Hey RedTeam! Thanks so much for commenting. There’s more Gundam in the queue so stay tuned. Since you requested it specifically, I’ll let you in on the next Gundam video (although not the next video to be made) Gundam 0080 War in the Pocket is probably the next Gundam work!
Yeah man keep this up and you'll go far on YT. Just found your channel and you sir earned a sub!
Hey Corry! Thanks for stopping by and the kind words. I’m happy to have you in this growing community!
Gundam Wing Blow my mind as a kid.. It's Serious Cute and Brutal.. Netflix doing live Action Gundam? But not Wing? That would be silly.. Western Audience still loved Gundam wing.. The Pilots the Mecha The Music are So Dope!
Hey Arnold! Thanks for stopping by and commenting. It’s got a great sense of style that’s for sure!
They should not do a live action of any Gundam shows it would be trash as fuck same as power rangers DBZ street fighter mortal kombat sonic Mario and all the rest...
Keep it in animation format and redrop the whole series
I agree with a lot of what you said, and I disagree with a lot. 😅
I love Gundam Wing, and at this point it's hard to know what I've re watched more between Gundam Wing and Gundam 00.
That said, Gundam Wing is a camp soap opera and I think it deserves more respect than it gets as I think it's "takes itself way too seriously" reputation fits perfectly for the Gundam Fandom, we take Gundam way too seriously and at the end of the day it's just a toy commercial. 🤷 I think Gundam Wing honestly was just trying to be a darker series without the baggage that comes with making good on that. It was still a kid's show, and at the time UC Gundam had gotten too dark for it's own good. (Looking at you Victory Gundam 👀). But I hear you.
Last thing, Zechs. He's not all over the place. He's the prince of a kingdom that was built on pacifism. And he betrayed his lineage to restore his family's kingdom. Then tries to make amends for his actions. Realizing he has failed and only knows how to kill, he is literally lost, without purpose because he wants peace, but only knows how to kill. Enter Epyon and White Fang. Not knowing how to help stopping wars to live up to his family name he asks the Zero System in Epyon. A suit designed for zero sum war, leads Zechs to the illogical conclusion that as someone who only knows how to kill, the best way to stop wars is to kill so many people that the world loses interest in fighting all together. Basically the same plot in Watchmen.
He's only a char clone in looks, yes he follows a similar arc, but he's not a true char clone. Imo, char is fractured between Trieze and Zechs in Gundam Wing.
Wow, great review!
Thanks so much. I’m glad you enjoyed it. If you wanna see more videos in this style, I have a few which you might enjoy. Check ‘em out!
At this point Heero might just be immortal. Have you counted the times his accidents would have killed a lesser man?
FOUR or maybe even five times in the first three episodes.
Episode one: He falls from space Dead on impact. Even sexy Sechs said so.
Also Episode one: Suicide by suit bomb (Ever noticed how often he tries to blow up his suit and just fails?)
Episode two: Several gunshot wounds to his extremities. None hit any vital organs but there were several of them. Plus it was a hectic situation making his heart beat and him lose a fatal amount of blood fast.
Also Episode two: He decided to drown for a bit.
Episode three: Jumped out of the side of a building. Which was situated on top of a cliff.
Screw gundamium. They should coat the Gundams in whatever his plotarmor is made of!
Sometimes he clearly died and then an episode or two later it's just "Well he got better."
Floating face down in the water in Episode 2? That was a floating corpse. Or when he blew up his Gundam. The core is near the cockpit. That explosion means certain death. Then he fell like 10 meters. But unlike his jump out of a building he did not somehow catch himself. He did break his fall though. With his face. On the ground. The blank stare with the empty eyes. That was a dead body. I mean Trowa even left him in Heavy Arms' Hand, which was towed to a truck instead of placing him in the drivers cabin. Who would do that do a still living, but mortally wounded person?
In my opinion he's the most ridiculously overpowered character in Anime history. I know there's always Saitama and Goku and whoever else. But Those are superhuman figures in fantasy worlds. Gundam aims to be very realistic. (Blisfully ignoring the glory that is G-Gundam here for the sake of argument) Even the space colonies are based on real ideas. And in a setting like that i know of no other situation where people just walk off deaths.
It became a running gag among friends who know G Wing. If some character is hyped as the best and strongest ever we top it off with "he probably also punched Heero in the face."
For real! I mean he should’ve been dead pretty much episode 2 from drowning. I had a joke in one of my first drafts where I pointed out how Duo and Relena left him face down in the ocean for a REALLY long time for dramatic effect. That’s where my line “it takes itself seriously and perhaps too seriously” came from.
I’ve always been a bit standoffish to the genre of Mecha. The large scale battles with robots turned me off for some reason. I do enjoy the themes youve touched on in the video though. But thanks to Code Geass and Gurren Lagann I do feel as though it’s probably not as bad as I imagine it to be. I should def give at least Wing a shot~
Great video as always Dan
I feel ya Blink. It’s not the genre for everyone, but there’s a lot of variety in the mecha genre so you’ll definitely find something interesting if you look. That said, I don’t recommend Wing as an entry point for you. I think you might enjoy some of the other series before this one. 0080 is a great start and short!
Thanks again for lending your voice to this project. You’re one of my defacto people to call when I need a VA!
Arabic Dub changed some micro stuff and it made it way better. Also let me point that the Gundams at the beginning where designed OP enough for the shaw setting. However, imagine they got designed each as OP as possible with technology they have access too at full display from beginning perhaps more OP than later upgrade ?
By the last 20 ep the Gundams are very much more than capable together to destroy any military given a base to supply them. It is not plot armor but lecturely plot armor plus they are a very powerful mobile suites unites amongst an already overpowered concept of independent mobile suites.
They just lacked proper planning and they over written orginal plan very quickly plus lacked condirention. If they wirked together from the beginning properly and give more time and invested more into mobile suites design and systems the earth forces is the one that stands no chance.
However about the show ideas, justice is the most important thing. Justice includes freedom and other things but they share an equal place as amongst the primary elements of justice. For example, Peace is another element: to fulfill justice but you need both but however justice is more important. Because one without the other is tyrany especially peace without justice is a bigger tyrany than justice without peace as that includes oppression. So peace is not a gole or a solution but a by product overtime. Also don't forget there is people that wants something and evil that u have to stop and fight too. Peace has many forms and layers. The best and most important peace is the peace of mind and soul of so called inner-peace. That is very achievable and not linked with outside peace. Wanting just peace is a surrender and weakness plus immoral, because you accepted injustice.
A real example is Isreal and Plastain. Peace is only achievable until gov of Israel becomes religious like an actual kingdom of God like David and Solomon time accepting Islam and Christianity too killing Zionism replaced by Orthodox Jews and racists present where gov is a chancle of Noocracy elected president leaders (USA and CIA gets out and defeated) or goes back to Islam and Arabs, especially within a greater Muslim power like First Caliphate or Saladin times. Anything else is injustice.
(Not to mention Israel gov has not been serious at peace and they are controlled by USA. Also lets say a Plastain gov gets formed: Israel gov and cia will just fake a 911 or Main USA and Spain bs like event or any other excuse go to war with Plastain and takeover)
I really enjoyed your video! I use to watch Gundam Wing in high school on Tunami.
id love to see what gundam wing could be if they where given time to make a full show out of it some thing like 3 season long and really leaned into the things that made wing so good
People forget why Gundam Wing was so important to the West. Wing not only was the first Gundam dubbed to be aired, but it was the first toonami show to have both a censored and uncensored episode airing concurrently. Then DBZ hopped on next. Also it was outperforming all of Cartoon Network shows since DBZ went on a mini break to hype the Garlin Jr and Cell Sagas. When DBZ returned, Wing’s final cour still was breathing down DBZ’s ratings. I can articulate why it was so popular. Cartoon Network was in a transitional phase before some of the most iconic shows like Samurai Jack, Kids Next door, ed Edd and eddy etc. began airing. It was full of scooby doo, Hannah barbera cartoons, the light hearted DC super hero shows and the 90s DC super hero shows. Wing was so different and made you question why we should we root for the edgelord MC rather than the handsome charismatic and noble antagonist. Anime since, has it to thank for popularizing edgier content.
Last Impression lol. I see what you did there. Great retrospective on the show.
A very well-done video analysis.
Thank you so much! It came from the heart and I’m always so happy when you guys stop in to comment and say hi!
It changed my life
Great video man love your work 🤞🏼💯
That narration reminded me Campbell Lane. Was that intentional? If so I like it.
Yup! It’s a beat for beat riff off the original to set the mood. There are a few other hidden things too! Hope you enjoyed watching and thanks for stopping by
Im on my rewatched of gundam wing after two decades of its initial broadcast. I remeber cool robot fights.
As an adult im seeing the small human moments that eyaxh character shows.
-Space colonies and starship tech
-nobles still travel by horse
God I love this AU so much
So what you’re saying is, G Gundam with its horse piloted mobile suit is the superior gundam? 🎠
@@NerdTalkDan oh absolutely! It had the best and worst mobile suit designs in any AU, bar-none. I still lament that we're never gonna get serious model kits of Tequila Gundam and that fish thing from Neo Norway 🤣
@@MarvinT0606 Screw that! Windmill Gundam superiority!
I have yet to watch gundam wing ! I have watched many other gundam series and plan on getting to gundam wing ! I am currently watching 8th MS team and gundam the witch of mercury ! When I’m done with those I will push on to gundam wing ! I know it’s a favorite among many fans , so I guess I will see for myself soon. !
08th MS Team is such a good show. Hope you’ll stop by again after you get to Wing and tell us what you thought!
Have a great day!
You know what ruined Wing to me? Heero not threatening Relena with death threats enough.
Agreed. I think we should’ve had scenes every episode where Heero randomly calls Relena and goes “just a reminder, I’ll “destroy” you”. Or writing a menacing e-mail to her. Just for his own amusement.
@@NerdTalkDan I mean...Relena looks like she gets off of Heero giving her death threats. 😅
@@Discotechque I wanted to discuss their relationship more. They’re both such weird characters I think because the show runners were trying to create a drama. So Relena’s talking to Heero when he’s not there is one of those quirks. And their weird infatuation with each other is also bizarre. And yet…it somehow worked?
I always took his threat or that quote as if her just getting involved with him she would end up dead by his hands or another?
Its quite amazing that a gundam series that would criticize Drone Warfare 30 years before it would come to the forefront.
Sci-fi has always had a way of peering into the future and trying to make us think about the ethical dilemmas on the horizon!
I remember this one and Toonami.
What an time to be a kid! Thanks so much for stopping by and commenting!
I’m going to rewatch Gundam wing after I finish Samurai champloo. I did the same G Gundam some years back. I loved Domon and his Shining burning finger lol, but I know Hero was real a badass.
On the discussion of plot armor, it always struck me as odd when Tuberoff decided to capture Wufei and Shenlong, then literally an episode later he chastises one of the scientists for keeping the Gundam it around. Then 1 episode later, he questions to Lady Une why they’re still keeping the captured Gundam pilots alive(and later in the episode he tries to kill them). Like they totally changed his character for 1 scene just to keep Wufei alive. 😂
Still love Gundam Wing though!
All very good questions which I can answer with …hey look over there Trowa is still alive!
You actually know how to say "anime" correctly :O
Hey Dakota thanks for stopping by and commenting. It’s actually an interesting issue you brought up since there’s not necessarily a right a wrong way to say a word that has become a common part of the western lexicon like anime, especially since the word anime itself is a shortened loan word from English. I say it like I do because I live in Japan and prefer to say it the way it is said when speaking Japanese! I hope you enjoyed the video and have yourself a great day!
@@NerdTalkDan I'm studying Japanese and learned the correct punctuation, and I was like, "Oh, crap, that makes sense." People in America will be happy to correct you on pronouncing "Manga" correctly, though lol.
There's "samurai," too. After centuries of the west mispronouncing a word, at what point is it a correct way to say it, I wonder XD.
I remember Like a Dragon Isshin had an American guy in 1800s Japan, and I loved how he mispronounced everything. His subtitles were awesome. "The way of the Sammerai."
@@PartofHistory214 That’s awesome to hear! It’s a challenging but really nice sounding language. Making these videos is interesting because I have to code switch between Japanese and English sometimes and my pronunciation gets all messed up (reference my Kenshin video where my pronunciation of “samurai” changes between the way an English speaker says it and a Japanese person says it) because when you’re in that groove one language or the other it’s difficult to switch out mid sentence lol.
It’s always a question too on whether to go with what has become the accepted pronunciations of Japanese words when speaking English for long standing loan words like “karate” or “karaoke”. I usually default to the Japanese pronunciation but would never say”カラテ Kid” for example. So it’s always a funny little balancing act.
Anyway, I rambled a bit. Good luck in your Japanese studies and feel free to stop by the channel again to talk and update me on how it’s going!
I came to this game fleeing from Hearthstone this year. Talk about bad timing. I loved the shift away from monetization built on the card purchases themselves, and felt it was a great step into modernizing digital card games. Shame I came to it so late. I'm hoping the grace period gives enough incentive and time to reconsider their decision.
I feel LoR could be getting some influx soon now that Hearthstone has been so slow to address botting and also cutting several game modes. I know lots of companies synchronize their layoffs to soften PR damage, but this would be the time if any to see some resurgence from the struggles of some other card games. Snap is definitely becoming a strong competitor, but again it has some problematic monetization, and I wish so badly that people could see the value of a game that tries so hard to break bad monetization that plagues similar games.
I love Gundam Wing but I'm not going to ignore its problems there were too many balance of power ships for the sake of shaking the status quo so they're never felt like there was a primary villain not having the primary faction that is the enemy made the show feel like it lacked Focus oz Roma Feller Foundation the trays faction White Fang it just tried to do too much for its own good
100% agree. I think they tried to tell a good and exciting story, but everything feels so rushed. I have nostalgic love for it, but it’s very flawed.
And that's fine, most of us watched it when we were kids but that doesn't mean we have to praise it for that or ignore it's problems. Wing is a good show, not the best among the other Gundam shows but good regardless of that. It's finale feels rushed and many factions appear and disappear very quickly like the Treize faction but i think of Endless Waltz as the real conclusion to the story, even when there is the Frozen Teardrop manga (not good at all in my opinion).
i agree. wing was a super formative series for me as a kid, but it did not hold up to a rewatch as an adult. endless waltz is the best xmas movie tho
That was a great review!
Thank you for stopping by and your kind words. It was made by a fan for other fans. I hope it gave you something to chew on over your next rewatch of the series.
In a combat soldier.. I understand the title.. it’s cool..
Glad you like it, sir! Hope the rest of the video impressed you as much lol
I love Gundam Wing. I wish they would continue the series after endless waltz.
I love that everyone hate wufei equally
For real. I actually don’t hate him as much as I did as a kid, but man he was a real piece of work sometimes lol.
what episode is in 42:27. Thank you in advance.
If you’re talking about Heero and Sylvia Noventa standing in front of a grave, I believe it’s from episode 14: The Order to Destroy 01!
@@NerdTalkDan Thanks a lot bro. Gundam wing is actually my no 1. gundam series and I also like you're vid. about it.
I wish they make the anime based on Glory of Losers
BTW... if it failed to explain itself (Wing series) about it's message I think it's by design... I imagine being a kid and Wing series is explaining stuffs I would not even understand... Or if the "Space Boyband" would die in the series... This would might be not be popular to kids back then if they did that... Or I may be wrong...
Solid video
Thanks for stopping by and commenting. Glad you enjoyed it dude! I have a few other anime based essays you might like! Hope to see ya around
You touched on everything that impacted me, growing up watching it after school. The big one was its soundtrack. Those two songs still get played.
@@marcoschavarria3232 Toonami crew unite! You better be registering to “White Reflection” from Endless Waltz as well!
You gotta do Zoids next haha
Hey Phantom! I’ll put it on the list!
If you think this is too much too fast that’s a personal weakness not a series weakness. Covering a lot of ground isn’t a flaw.
Nice, but maybe watch Mobile Suit Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans, if you are going to mention sacrifice in a gundam franchise.
Gundam wing is a philosophical masterpiece even though pacing was cramed it hit all theu key points with precision. War begets war and the fallout from it. The grasp of power. The newee generation having better potential n skill than the last. The progress and inconsistentcy of humanity and our current society.. one could even say Wing was ahead of its time dictating the political climate we are currently in... Lets not down play this masterpiece of a series we either took for granted or didn't realize.
ZZ gundam has the first gundam team
Hey Max Zero, thanks for stopping by!
It depends on how you define “Gundam team”. You could argue Z Gundam had a Gundam team with the Zeta, Mk II, and (debatable) Hyaku Shiki.
I would say that there were obviously other teams before G Gundam, Gundam Wing seems explicitly templated on G Gundam.
@@NerdTalkDan but ZZ had them working on screen more then G gundam since they were rival not partners as well
@@maxzero3647 That’s fair, but then you would also have to mention that the pilots in Wing ALSO fought each other. There’s no single answer, but G Gundam came out the year before Wing, Bandai specifically mandated 5 gundams similar to G Gundam, and Shenlong/Altron are clearly based on Neo-China’s gundam. It seems likelier, to me, that the creative staff took inspiration from G Gundam which was more recent, rather than looking back to ZZ. But obviously is up to debate and doesn’t really matter at the end of the day.
I've only seen 2 videos so far but htf do you only have thousand subs?
Hey Carlos, thanks so much for your kind words of support.
All YTers grow at their own pace, and I’m just trying to enjoy the ride. But if you happen to know any anime fans or have friends who would enjoy my content, you know where to send them! Word of mouth really helps growing channels like mine.
Have a great day. I hope you’ll stop by the channel again soon!
Mission accomplished…..
President Bush? That you?! 😬
37:53 why did she shoot him if she dropped him out of a plane?
Because Lady Une, at the time, was a particularly cruel person. But out of universe it was a good shot and showed Une as especially violent.
Legendary anime
It’s hard to take off the nostalgia glasses, but I think it has proven its longevity and earned a place of honor in the history of Gundam!
you have to watch gundam thunderbolt its only 8 ep and the first 4 is all you need
I’ve seen it my friend. Loved it!
I don't remember G Gundam being popular at least in the forums I joined and my friends in highschool all pretty universally hated G Gundam
Fair enough lol
I'm doing a watch through of Gundam, one UC and one nonUC at a time. Just finished 00, and almost done with ZZ. Unintentionally watched Wing and 00 back to back. Got a little exhausted from the plot armored emo boys. 00 really is just an improved remake of Wing.
GW
Pros
- Mech designs, including some of my favorite MP and MD designs (Aries 💯)
- Some of the best music in Gundam
- Character design and overall aesthetic
Cons
- Emotionless/boring characters
- Confusing or non-existant motivations
- Muddy politics, ideas on how to achieve peace (Quatre seems to be the only one with any sense)
- The most plot armor ever, even some of the few characters that 'die' end up living.
00
Pros
- Interesting characters
- Clearer motivations
- More focus on child soldiers, but IBO is better (most Gundam series kinda brush that under the rug)
- More realistic politics and path to peace (if still unrealistic)
- Less plot armor
Cons
- But still a decent amount of plot armor
- Some of the worst overall mech designs in Gundam (Exia and 00 are some exceptions)
- Too much too fast, can take a second to figure out who is who, or what is happening
- Too many characters in general, long time for some payoffs and a few are not even needed (Wang Liu Mei especially)
That’s an awesome write up! I’m a big fan of 00 so I appreciate your comparison. Someone in the fandom wrote “Wing walked so 00 could run” and I think that makes so much sense!
Trowa Barton
“For the record” (Cue letting fly ALL the missiles)
They actually crammed all of char into 46 episodes because there are 3 recap episodes!!!!
awesome sauce and please do code geass and iron blooded orphans next
Thanks so much for stopping by ninjammer726! I definitely plan to cover more Gundam in the future. I haven’t actually seen those two series yet, but I’ll put them in the queue!
If you enjoyed this video I have a few other anime videos you may like, so I hope you’ll stop by the channel again soon!
@@NerdTalkDan cool beans and thanks for the reply
short story american kids need anime gundam that suit with their war.culture that was gundam wing
8:09 Calling it "NATO-esque" while it's clearly inspired by the Warsaw Pact (Soviet Union) is an... interesting choice, to say the least.
You misspelled Gundam G.
May I ask where?
First watched Gundam Wing back in 98 and it immediately captured my attention. I watch it at least once a year along with G Gundam. The story wasn't too deep. It tells a story that can be easily understood by kids like me then
That’s dedication my friend! I’m glad it still holds a special place in your heart. For all us 90s kids, keep enjoying those rewatches!
love it
Thanks for stopping by @MerkRaddTv! I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I take it you’re a fellow Gundam fan?
@@NerdTalkDan allday got all the games ps1 and up
@@MerkRadd Ah, a man of culture! Gundam Evolution seems to be all the rage at the moment but I haven’t looked at the gameplay at all yet! Have you tried it?
Honestly Wing and Toonami in general was for young warriors. If anything im closer to pro-war when necessary.
Despite some flaws, I will say that of all the Gundam series, Gundam Wind is the series that offers the best drawn gundams and characters. The work on colors and their gradients is more advanced than in all the other series (except the very last one which I haven't watched).
PS: Thank you so much for your good work and your analysis is very good.
Thanks for stopping by and for your kind words. There are definitely some amazing frames from this show that still hold up.
@@NerdTalkDan You are welcome.